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What’s Going on With the New U.S. Sunscreen Filter? Plus: Selena’s Wedding and an Update on That Bubble Campaign
In this episode, Kirby and Sarah dive into the latest buzz surrounding the new U.S. sunscreen filter, Selena Gomez's stunning wedding looks, and the anticipated release of Taylor Swift's new...
What’s Going on With the New U.S. Sunscreen Filter? Plus: Selena’s Wedding and an Update on That Bubble Campaign
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Speaker A
Los Angeles.
Speaker B
Hi, Kirby.
Speaker A
Hi, Sarah.
Speaker B
Welcome to Los Angeles.
Speaker A
Friends. You know what time it is. The Life of a Showgirl came out as the Taylor Swifty fan here. And by the way, not like a crazy Swifty, but, like, I don't know all the intricacies that some of these people have time. I don't look for these.
Speaker B
You don't have the time for that?
Speaker A
No, I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker B
But I do look to you because I am not a Swifty. Don't come for me. I just. I'm. I. I could never call myself a Swifty. Compared to, like, I enjoy her music and I think she's extremely talented, but compared to, like, a true Swifty, I'm not a Swifty. I look to you.
Speaker A
I want you to guess based off of these names of these songs, which one would be my favorite.
Speaker C
Okay.
Speaker A
Okay. Opalite.
Speaker C
Okay.
Speaker A
Elizabeth Taylor, Canceled or Father Figure?
Speaker B
Okay, I originally was gonna say canceled, but is it Elizabeth Taylor?
Speaker A
No, it's Father Figure. And let me just. Can I read you a lyric?
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Well, I saw some posts, and they're much racier lyrics than what I'm used to from Ms.
Speaker C
Swift.
Speaker A
So the thing about Taylor that always cracks me up is that she does incorporate some very suggestive lyrics.
Speaker B
Themes.
Speaker A
Yes. And, like, she says a lot in her music, so she.
Speaker C
Yeah. Yes.
Speaker B
I didn't know that.
Speaker A
Yes. People have a vision of her, but she's, like, throwing on fuck like it's going out of style. Okay, so Father Figure. It's interpolated with George Michael's father figure from 1987.
Speaker B
Great.
Speaker A
I personally cannot hear the interpolation. Like, I don't listen to it and go, oh, this sounds like Father Figure. The song is essentially about her former team or manager, Scott Borchetta, who, once she left them, sold all her music to Scooter Braun. Initially, people thought this was gonna be about Olivia Rodrigo based off of the title. It is not.
Speaker B
Wait, why would that be?
Speaker A
Because there is a rift between Olivia Rodrigo and Taylor Swift. Olivia used to love Taylor, and then Taylor made her give songwriting credit on one of her songs.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
Because she mentioned in an interview that she was inspired by it.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
Okay.
Speaker C
Okay.
Speaker A
And that's literally an episode in itself.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
I. I like her dark and moody songs.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Okay, so this starts off dark and moody, and essentially she's going through. And she's singing it from the point of view of Scott saying these things to her.
Speaker B
Oh, okay.
Speaker A
Like, I'm your father figure. Step into my office. I draw your Tears with my sleeve. I protect the family, those type of things. Okay. But the course is, I'll be your father figure. I drink that brown liquor. I can make deals with the devil because my dick's bigger.
Speaker B
Whoa.
Speaker A
When I was literally, like, typing away on my computer, I hear my dicks bigger. I'm like, girl, what? And that's what made me kind of clue in, because when I initially. When I first saw the name of it, I thought, oh, this is going to be like patting Olivia Rodrigo on the head. Like, yeah, you're mad because I made you give songwriting credit. But, like, that's just how this world works. Like, you could have been my protege. And, like, this is. This is how it goes. Whatever. Stop crying about it. But I'm like, oh, no, no. This is definitely about her getting her masters back or her masters being sold and being betrayed by this man who probably told her I'm. I'm a father figure in her life. I would love to know if he actually said any of these things, because in my head, when I hear I make deals with the devil because my dick's bigger.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
That sounds like.
Speaker A
That sounds like something a man said in a meeting.
Speaker B
Right? Totally. Totally.
Speaker A
And it's kind of being thrown.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Like, thrown back in her face. And then she's using it against him because at the end, it's basically like, you made a deal with this devil. Me and my dick's bigger. Actually, I was like, okay. I'm actually obsessed with this love that she throws in some. Sometimes these lyrics that I like kind of face palm at. Like, in one of her songs, she. She talks about, like, how she's not a bad bitch and she's not savage, and, like, she's using it as a way to, like, show that this Internet vernacular is so stupid.
Speaker B
Right.
Speaker A
But I personally do not like it when she uses Internet slang of any kind in any of her songs.
Speaker B
Like, a little cringy.
Speaker A
Yeah. It, like, makes me cringe because I'm like, you're a better songwriter than this.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
And there is one song, Eldest Daughter, that, like, I straight up just cannot listen to because she incorporates it intentionally. Yeah.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
But I just. I'm like, this is going to be the song that casual listeners who dislike her already are going to say she's a poor songwriter.
Speaker C
Ye. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker A
You know what I mean?
Speaker B
Totally. Sure. Anyway, I think I'm going to really like it because it's, like, her pop. Or she's going back into, like, her pop era.
Speaker A
Max Martin and Shellback.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
Here's the thing. The entire album, sonically, is probably not as flashy as a lot of people were expecting from hearing the title. Being like a dream girl. There's dark and moody parts like, yeah, it sounds. A. Part of. It sounds like Fleetwood Mac to me. Then there's like, a Jackson 5 inspired sounding song. In my opinion. It sounds like a song that would be in a rom com, but it's clearly talking about Travis Kelse. Penis size, like redwood.
Speaker B
He.
Speaker A
She calls it a redwood.
Speaker B
Oh, my God.
Speaker A
Not hard to see.
Speaker B
I'm sure he loves that.
Speaker A
No, I was like. I was like. Because they asked him what his favorite song was, and he said he liked Opalite.
Speaker C
Okay.
Speaker A
And I'm like, that was the PR answer. Yeah, that was a PR answer. That tree pain said, sir, you will not be saying wood is your favorite song. And I. When you listen to it, you're like, it's a happy, upbeat song. The whole album is positive.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
So even when she's talking about negative things, it kind of is showing her, like, maturing as a woman, being like. Of course, you've probably seen the headline where she's, like, talking about Charlie XCX in the song.
Speaker C
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker A
That's also one of my least favorite songs. I'm like, girl, you really didn't need to go there. But at the same time, Charlie XCX used Taylor Swift as fodder for a song on her album. So, like, all Spare is fair.
Speaker B
Totally.
Speaker A
Here we go.
Speaker C
Exactly.
Speaker A
But she's happy right now. She's basically like, she could have used it as, like, you were talking and I'm gonna, like, come to get you. Like, I'm coming for you. Instead, it was like, you're talking shit. I actually find it, like, cute. It's kind of like. It's actually romantic that you're talking about me this much. Like, does your boyfriend tell you, please stop bringing this woman up?
Speaker B
Right.
Speaker A
That type of thing.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Which is kind of like, I think Charlie was the sacrificial lamb for that specific song. But I also think it's a commentary on, like, everyone just saying shit about her all the time. And she's like, I'm so glad I'm living rent free in your mind.
Speaker B
Right, Exactly.
Speaker A
Like, if she really wanted to piss me off, she would have included. Included that saying in that song.
Speaker B
I'm living rent free in your mind.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
So maybe she did.
Speaker B
And then she crossed out. She was like, kirby.
Speaker A
Yeah. She said, kirby, I feel your subliminal thoughts about this.
Speaker B
I love that. Okay. I'M really excited to listen to it. Can we talk about one thing? Speaking of friends connected, her being happy. She's engaged. Wedding. Selena's wedding look.
Speaker A
Yes.
Speaker B
Oh, my God.
Speaker A
Hung did the damn thing. She looks, first of all, so happy. She looks so happy.
Speaker B
So happy.
Speaker A
Smile. I love, like, her big, cheesy smile. Like, you can see all her teeth in her face.
Speaker B
Like, I loved her that she kept her hair short.
Speaker A
Yep. Same.
Speaker B
It was very simple, very classic. Timeless.
Speaker A
Timeless.
Speaker B
Like old Hollywood Ralph Lauren gowns. Oh, my gosh. All of them stunning. Her makeup looked so good. Her skin was, like, immaculate.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
They said they did the breakdown of her look, obviously. Most of it rare beauty. Hung got a few products in there. I think he used the new neutrals palette on her.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker A
For the eye. Um, and I love that, like, he's able to, like, sneak in a few.
Speaker B
Totally. You know what I mean?
Speaker A
It's nice.
Speaker B
Of Selena.
Speaker A
Yeah. I'm like, yes.
Speaker B
Least you could do for Hung.
Speaker A
The least you could do for Hung.
Speaker B
But they had the lip kit or whatever. Yeah. They're selling her, like, wedding day lip look, which was. Was beautiful. But we'll see if Ms. Taylor Swift takes a page from Selena's wedding look. The timeless, classic elegance of it.
Speaker A
For Showgirl. They came out with some new images when the album was released. There are some images of her without the red lip.
Speaker B
She looks great.
Speaker A
That I'm like, we're.
Speaker B
We're moving in the right direction.
Speaker A
We love this. For me, personally, this is the look that I'm gravitating towards. I love it so much. When do you think it's gonna be?
Speaker B
If you could predict?
Speaker A
I don't know. I don't know. You know? Like, how long does she need? I want her to just get pregnant before she gets married.
Speaker B
Oh, okay. Love that.
Speaker A
I actually would love that for her.
Speaker B
Ooh, that would be great.
Speaker A
The whole song. Like, there's a song called Wishlist, and literally, it's just like, I want everyone to get what they want. What I want is literally to, like, have babies with this man and, like, have a basketball hoop in the front yard.
Speaker C
Cute. Cute.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker A
Not like she would ever live in a cult of Zach.
Speaker B
No, she would not. But, like, there would not be a house.
Speaker A
We can have that fairy tale for acres. Yes. Yes.
Speaker B
It's going to be up. It's going to be. Not when Travis is playing football.
Speaker A
That would actually be diabolical if it was.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
It would be crazy. I'm thinking spring or summer before, you know, training.
Speaker B
Totally. Okay. We'll see. We'll see if we're right.
Speaker A
We will see. I desperately need. I would love her also, because Ralph Lauren doesn't make a lot of wedding dresses. So Selena's dresses. I don't know if you saw this. I was watching this girl. I cannot remember her name for the life of me. She's verified on TikTok, but she talks about wedding dresses for her content. Wow. I think she's a bridal stylist. And she said one thing that she really loved about Selena's two wedding dresses that she had were that they looked similar and that they were like a high halter neckline. She says a lot of brides are like, no, this dress is too similar to this dress, so they need to be different. And Selena obviously was like, this works for me. This is what I like. And so there were, there were aspects of it that made it similar, but they were very, very different looking.
Speaker B
Like one thing on one was the.
Speaker A
Lace, the draping on the silk dress. I was like, this is art. This is so beautiful. And then the lace on the other is perfect. And then the reception dress, the little tea length. Yeah. Reception dress, I thought was. And she was barefoot. Most of those photos.
Speaker C
So cute.
Speaker A
I'm like, good for you, girl.
Speaker B
So happy.
Speaker A
Good for you, Selena. I hope that you're a baby makin. I hope if that's what you want with your life. Like, I'm sure they want kids.
Speaker B
Yeah, probably.
Speaker A
I hope that they're just going to pound town and having babies soon. That's what I want for our girls. That truly that's how I feel life. I'm like, just want everyone to find love, be happy.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
I love it. I love it.
Speaker A
Same. It was fabulous. Like, that was arguably like the biggest also. We didn't have to wait. It was like, oh, no, I think you were married. And here you go.
Speaker B
Selena was like, I am posting these first images.
Speaker A
Right.
Speaker B
No one else is posting them. No one gets the exclusive.
Speaker A
And I don't want people like speculating. I don't want like people trying to get something. Yep, here you go. Giving you some morsels.
Speaker B
Exactly.
Speaker A
There it is.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
And then we knew a few people who went to the wedding, obviously from the Rare beauty team. And it was like, no cameras. Yonder bags. Those yonder bags.
Speaker A
No. But when we went, so wicked. One beautiful, one wonderful night.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
I had the best time and I didn't have my phone.
Speaker C
Yep.
Speaker B
It's really, it's honestly.
Speaker A
That's a new upper echelon, new luxury yeah, the new luxury. Exactly. The new luxury is no phones.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Being present.
Speaker C
Yep.
Speaker B
Being able to connect with other humans.
Speaker A
It forces you to actually communicate with people in a way that's truly what the human experience was at one point.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Yonder. Yonder bags must be making a killing.
Speaker A
Or is that what they're called? Yeah, they're called underbags that they like.
Speaker B
Yeah, the one that like.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Because I know they had them at certain schools too, which I'm like, please do that at all schools make it mandatory.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Because they do not need. I mean, that's a whole nother.
Speaker A
Yeah, we can go on the teachers.
Speaker B
Anyways, Beautiful wedding. Congratulations.
Speaker A
Beautiful, beautiful wedding.
Speaker B
Beautiful.
Speaker A
Okay, Sarah.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker A
We're gonna bring back oldie but a goodie that we haven't done in a minute. What's on your face?
Speaker B
You guys miss this segment?
Speaker A
What's on your face?
Speaker B
What's on my face? Okay, so there is a new product that I started using. It's right here. Because you haven't gotten to use it yet. I want you to play with it too.
Speaker A
I have not.
Speaker B
It is from a brand called Orsay, which is a brand that Kirby, you know, I. I have loved for years. We had Daniel Martin on the podcast recently, and he was singing the brand's praises. It was founded by Yuchen. She. And when she launched, or say, she built it around creating products that offered shades and textures that actually flattered specific undertones that many of us struggle with. Specifically if you have golden or olive tone skin, which, by the way, I learned recently that I am a true neutral, which I think is.
Speaker A
But that's why we have similar. That.
Speaker B
Yes, same.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
That's why we can sometimes match foundation because we have similar neutral, which is so funny.
Speaker C
Yes, yes.
Speaker A
It's kind of hilarious. It's like, it really is.
Speaker B
Like, it takes you almost 40 years to find your. Your undertone is what I'm learning. Okay, so. Or say launched a product that is not complexion based, but it is meant for everyone. It is cloud dimensions. It is this beautiful multi use color cream for your eyes, your cheeks, your face. Kirby. Go ahead and play with it if you would like. It's called cloud dimensions because the texture is literally cloud. Like.
Speaker A
Oh, I didn't expect it to be a doe foot.
Speaker B
Yes, I know. Don't you love that?
Speaker A
So, so. Oh, my God, this is gorge.
Speaker B
It is cloudlike, but it's shimmer. But it's like this ultra fine shimmer that adds dimension without looking glittery. I like to call it expensive shimmer. Like, it looks elevated. This is not like a shimmer that we were wearing when we were in middle school. This feels like luxurious. What I also really love about this formula is that it's oil free and water based, so it goes on really creamy, but then it's sets so it's comfortable, it's smudge proof once it's down. And you can shear it out with your fingers or you can build it up with a brush. Ooh, that looks really good on your lip.
Speaker A
I'm obsessed.
Speaker B
I have not worn it on my lip yet. I've only put it on my cheeks and my eyes. But that is a topper.
Speaker A
Yeah. I just put this on as a topper and then I have. It's sunset and jaiper.
Speaker B
Okay. That's gorgeous. That's like a rosy peach. And I would have put that on as a blush, but as a lip topper.
Speaker A
I know I'm kind of obsessed with it because this is not normally a shade I would go for for my lips. Like a shimmery.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Pink.
Speaker B
But it actually looks so good on you.
Speaker A
It looks real. I'm obsessed.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
I like the size of this.
Speaker B
Me too.
Speaker A
I know that people might see it and be like, oh, it's so small. Small. But especially for this type of product, you don't need a giant vat of it. I feel like it's hard to get through.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
You're not going to finish it. Maybe it'll dry out, though. This might not. Because some. So you could probably feel it when you put it on. It's made with hyaluronic acid, so it's extremely hydrating.
Speaker A
It has like a cooling effect almost.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Okay.
Speaker B
So then it has Tahitian pearl for that like soft focus glow. And then I'm not going to pronounce this correctly. Wu, which is a Vodia fruit for that radiance. Okay, So I. When you. Okay. So I have it on my eye right now. I have Bali at golden hour.
Speaker A
O pretty. Yeah, that's a warm bronze.
Speaker B
I think that's a really bronze. So I have this on my lid and you really like, you tap it in and then, you know, you put it where you want blend and it sets. So it's going to last all day.
Speaker A
I was going to say. So I started blending it out on my finger and you can see it's almost like a stain, like a wash of color. Especially if you're trying to blend it out for your eyelids. Because sometimes with these creamier products for the lip, I feel like I put it on. And then I'm like, oh, wait, I got. I got to remove.
Speaker B
Totally. Too much.
Speaker A
Yeah, because it's too much. It's too pigmented.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
This looks like it was like powder.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Yeah. Cream powder. That's what it feels like. It definitely feels powdery. It doesn't feel like when I rub my finger on top, it doesn't feel like it's pulling.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Oh, quiet luxury.
Speaker A
Quiet luxury.
Speaker B
Gorge. This is like a beige neutral. I have this on my cheekbones, like, as a nice little highlighter. Put it on my nose.
Speaker A
I love the name. Famous by association. So this is the lilac color. I don't know if you guys can see.
Speaker B
It's really pretty. I feel like that could look really good on your lips too. They're on the lips?
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Like, as a topper. I think it could, like, as a frosty.
Speaker A
Are you on crack?
Speaker B
Listen, the 90s look with the frosty lid and the frosty lip is back. And I think that would look really good on.
Speaker A
I mean, it's purple, so I don't really know. I'm going back to that 2016 moment, but I can see this being pretty on the cheek.
Speaker B
Yeah, that's it. It would, I think on the cheek or on the lid. And then chocolate diamond.
Speaker C
Again.
Speaker B
The names are so good. Which is like this deep champagne, which I would probably also use on my lid.
Speaker A
Yeah, I was gonna say that on my lid.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Because it's a cool. It's a cooler toned brown with just.
Speaker B
Like a hint of shimmer.
Speaker A
Oh, that's pretty. Yeah, I could see that being kind of like a sleepy eye.
Speaker B
Yeah, it's just like, you know, when you wear it over your lid, it's not like, super bold, but when it, you know, your eye catches the light, it's like a nice little shimmer. Sexy eye.
Speaker A
So pretty.
Speaker B
Okay, so Orsay Cosmetics Cloud dimensions is available October 6th. So it's already available on Orsay cosmetics.com or neimanmarcus.com they are $38. So they're a little pricey. But I think, like you said, Kirby, a little goes a long way. And it's just. It's. It's very unique.
Speaker A
And I know that we've discussed or say in the past, like, we've been doing this podcast for so long, I can't remember when exactly they launched. But, like, you were in, like, immediately, obviously, because of what the brand stands for, you know, catering especially specifically, I feel like, to the Asian community as well. So we. Yeah, we want to support this brand. We love Ors we want to support, you know, what they're doing. I think it's like a very unique point of view.
Speaker C
Yes, yes.
Speaker B
If you are an Asian girly or man or person and you are looking for a complexion product, I highly suggest going to Orsay and trying out their foundation. Also their powder, which I think Daniel was talking about. Their powder.
Speaker A
Powder.
Speaker C
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A
It's like it says it's serum infused powder. I haven't had the opportunity to try that one. But I do love their water magnet lip tints.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker B
So pretty.
Speaker A
They feel so they. It feels like glass on the lips, like a smooth layer. It's not sticky at all. And I normally don't go through for darker shades like this, like these darker reds. But because it's a tint.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
I feel like it just gives my lips a little bit of a, like.
Speaker B
Nice little tint, like a soft tint. And then your lips are glossy. Ooh, that's really pretty. Oh, I love. What color is that? This is. Sorry.
Speaker A
Can we get readers? Honestly, at this point it's called. Oh, the name is so cute. Once bitten, twice shy.
Speaker B
Oh, cute. Yes. Maybe we need magnifying glasses.
Speaker A
We bust out a branded magnifying glass. No, literally, we're going to start doing that. I'm going to find us many magnifying glasses and so when we go places, we're just going to bust it out.
Speaker B
Does that look San Diego?
Speaker A
No, literally, we're going to make it. We're going to make it cool again. Forget readers, just bust out. Or like the.
Speaker B
What do you call it?
Speaker A
The eye. We're gonna put it on a keychain. Yes. What do you call those? What are those called? The little eye thing that you put up the. Oh my God. It's the Monopoly man.
Speaker B
Do you know what they're called?
Speaker A
Wait, hold on. Is it, is it a monocle? Okay. I think that's the Mandela effect. People were like, didn't the Monopoly guy have Monopoly? He did. Okay. But I think, I think literally it's the Mandela effect. Monopoly man, monocle. Hold on. I'm not kidding. What do you mean he does not wear monocle? The Monopoly. This is literally a discussion on the Internet. I'm not kidding. The Monopoly man, or also known as aka Mr. Monopoly or Rich Uncle Penny bags, does not wear a monocle.
Speaker B
He's never worn a monocle.
Speaker A
The popular belief that he does. An example is an example of the Mandela effect where many people share false memory. It's like everybody thought Britney Spears was wearing a. What we Call now. The Britney mic. And I did it again. She was never wearing a Britney mic in that video.
Speaker B
But is it because when we see her perform, that's what we remember?
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
Yes, people. I have fought with people on the Internet about this. I was like, I was alive and well when this music video came out. I remember it frame by frame. She was never wearing. Why would she be wearing a Britney mike in a music video? And in space.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Hello. Yeah, that's the Mandela effect. So, yeah. Wow. He was never wearing a monocle. People are like, you're getting confused with Mr. Peanut.
Speaker B
Mr. Peanut.
Speaker A
Also war monocle.
Speaker B
And a hat.
Speaker A
And a hat.
Speaker B
Top hat.
Speaker A
But I was like, I swear to God.
Speaker B
But we are going to get monocles, so be prepared.
Speaker A
They're going to be. Let's find, like, a really luxurious one.
Speaker C
Okay.
Speaker A
Can we, like, get Cartier monocles? Should we see if they make one?
Speaker B
The dazzled one.
Speaker A
Love this for us. Anyways, thank you or say for partnering with us on what's on your face this week. We really appreciate it.
Speaker B
We love the cloud dimensions.
Speaker A
Okay. We love follow ups. And in this new section, we have a follow up. So last week we were pretty harsh. Not harsh. We were just real. We didn't understand why Leighton Meester was the first new face of Bubble Skincare. I don't think.
Speaker B
Yeah, I don't think we were harsh. We were, like, reacting to it in real time using our critical thinking.
Speaker A
Yes. So as we had mentioned, Bubble is looking to scale up in terms of demo and they hired Leighton. And I wrote about this for my newsletter. We talked about it on the pod.
Speaker B
Did you see she was also partnering with, like, Godiva. Like, she is getting her back.
Speaker A
Good for her. Good for her. She's also in the new season of Nobody wants this.
Speaker B
Oh, my God, I can't wait for that.
Speaker A
I just need boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Okay, so Bubble reached out and said, we'd love to have you talk with Shai, who is the founder, Millennial founder. Has a child of her own that's nine. And one of my questions for Shai was essentially like, if I'm looking on Google Trends, anything about Bubble Skincare, the top results that people are searching are, is Bubble made for kids? So this is very much a Gen Z brand.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
And just the name alone.
Speaker A
And the packaging. And the packaging. Danielle Bubble.
Speaker B
Colorful.
Speaker C
Yeah. Yes.
Speaker A
And Daniela Morrisini, who wrote the original article about Leighton being the face of Bubble, went on, I think the business of beauty podcast.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
And mentioned, like, it's Just hard for these brands to get out of this bubble, no pun intended, when you look a certain way. And it's the same thing for older brands. Like we mentioned Estee Lauder. Like you see the Estee Lauder Advanced Night Repair and you're like, that's not for my mom or my grandma. You know what I mean? So it's a really hard, it's hard to break out of that. So Shai said that bubble does skew younger, but they want to promote the fact that they're efficacious and that their dermatologist backed that they are just as effective as their competitors like Cetaphil, Cerave, Laroche, Posay, even though they look fun, even though they look maybe frivolous and like they are for younger skin, that they actually have clinicals to back up. All they do, all their R and D is in house. So they have their own R and D team research and development and that they make all their products in house. So they're not going to labs to say make me this or white label this. Like they actually have everything at their own disposal in house. Which I did not know that. I'm actually very surprised to hear that. And that's like, that's cool to me.
Speaker B
Yeah, very impressive. So then it was very intentional partnering with Leighton.
Speaker A
Yes. Because also I texted my friend, like I said and asked, Please ask your 13 year old daughter, Catherine.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
Does she know who Leighton Meester is? And she goes, the woman from Gossip Girl. So Shai had mentioned that apparently. I mean, and of course like you and I know this. These brands don't just do, don't do anything like. No, of course, out of the blue.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
But they did the research and it's like a rite of passage for a teenage girl to watch Gossip Girl.
Speaker B
Interesting.
Speaker A
So not only was it hitting this younger gen Alpha demographic and also their Gen Z demo, but then Layton, it's like us, you know, elder millennials who know her from Gossip Girl when it was airing in real time and because they are wanting to show people like we have efficacious clinically backed products that like will actually work for you. Shy was explaining to me that like they have a certain line that when it comes to plumping and hydrating the skin, their clinical testing is just can.
Speaker B
Go head to head with any other.
Speaker A
Out of this world. And so I was, I'm excited because I'm going to test those products and like see, because I use the bubble eye cream and I love the. It's called Cosmic Silk it's there. Toner, their milky toner. It's kind of like their answer to, like, Rhode or like a lineage. And it's super affordable. And when they sent me the sample, like, I really liked it. I mentioned that in the last episode. So I think that what I really appreciate about brands reaching out to us like this, even when we are being critical, is like, they're giving us more information in a very nice way. Like, hey, like, I understand that you have these feelings, but a knee jerk reaction upon seeing it because of your, you know, conception, you know, your perception of the brand.
Speaker B
But here's why you're wrong.
Speaker A
Yeah, but literally, like, here's.
Speaker B
We love to be told. I love that we are wrong.
Speaker A
And I like to get more information. Like, if you're giving me more information, I'm entitled to change my opinion.
Speaker B
So I will say that, by the way, we like to be told we're wrong if there is facts and receipts.
Speaker A
To back it up 100%. Yes, we love that. And so I have a lot of respect for Bubble for reaching out and offering shy to me. Because a lot of founders would not.
Speaker C
Right.
Speaker A
They'd be like, well, let them think what they want to think. Who cares?
Speaker B
I. I still stand by our suggestion of a brand partnering with a Miranda Cosgrove, Ashley Tisdale, Victoria Justice.
Speaker A
Yes.
Speaker B
I think that, that maybe not for Bubble because that's not what they're trying to do, but some other brand.
Speaker A
Right. And they are trying to scale up. Like, they are trying to prove to people like me, you people that are in their 40s.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Hey, like, we have. We have products that are just as great for your skin as they are great for maybe your nine year old daughter. Ten year old, whatever.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
So thank you, Bubble.
Speaker B
Thank you, Shy.
Speaker A
Yeah. And thank you, Shy for talking to me. I really do appreciate that. So moving on, y', all, stop the presses.
Speaker B
This exciting.
Speaker A
We are getting a new sunscreen filter.
Speaker B
I love the pronunciation breakdown.
Speaker A
I obviously needed it. I don't know.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
So here's everything you need to know about the new sunscreen filter that is coming to the U.S. all right?
Speaker B
It's called Bemotrizenol Obemo. Tries and all. Okay, well.
Speaker A
Tries and all.
Speaker B
Bmt they call it B E M T. Let's call it that.
Speaker A
So Kelly Dobos is a cosmetic chemist and she wrote a story for Allure about this. She attended the sunscreen symposium this year, which was in Orlando. Buena Vista, Florida. Right by Orlando. I was like, damn, wow. Another symposium I should have been at.
Speaker B
Missed Op God.
Speaker A
Like, if you are doing something with skincare, y' all need to, like, get it on my radar, babes. Like, I need to know about these things.
Speaker B
It's crazy. It's actually you.
Speaker A
I love Orlando.
Speaker B
And sunscreen.
Speaker A
And sunscreen. Truly. It would have been a match made in freaking heaven. Next time, Kelly went and she breaks down how the US currently has 16 active sunscreen ingredients, but we only commonly use eight. Compared to the EU that has 30, or Japan, that has 30 plus. These are more elegant sunscreen filters that, you know, it's why we're hoarding sunscreen when we go on an international adventure. And it's why a lot of the sunscreens that come to the US from abroad have to be reformulated because they can't include some of these more elegant filters. So Kelly says that you may know this ingredient, B E M T, from, you know, traveling abroad and purchasing things like La Roche, Posay's and Thelios line of sunscreens in the eu because we have Anthelios here. Yeah, but it's a different formulation.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
As well as the Anthelios Uvmune 400 invisible fluid SPF 50, which I think has, like, a lot of fanfare around it, like, if it's a. If, you know, you know, type of thing. Bemt is also used in the original Japanese version of Biora UV Aqua Riche Watery Essence.
Speaker B
That's the one that I always buy.
Speaker A
Yes, that's the one that we were, like, hoarding off a Style Vana, and.
Speaker B
Unfortunately, they tried to launch it here in the US and it just. It was good, but it was different.
Speaker A
Yes. So this particular ingredient is being branded as Parasol Shield. And, yeah, it should be coming to market next year pending everything goes. Right.
Speaker B
So how does that work? Like, how does. How does a new sunscreen filter become available or approved? Like, are people, like, lobbying for this filter?
Speaker A
I mean, essentially, yes, in a way. But the article. In the article, Kelly explains that, like, it's taken this particular company that's bringing this to the US 20 years and, like, millions of dollars to try to do.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Which is why we do not have as elegant of filters as other places in the world. So I say pending, everything goes well, because, like, again, it has to go through the fda. Like, yeah, like, well, our government's currently checked out and God doing God knows what. But, yeah, like, the fda, when it comes down to it, has bigger fish to fry.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
They're like, who cares about sunscreen?
Speaker B
Right.
Speaker A
Like, we. But that's why in the article Kelly's like, we need to be reaching out to our policymakers and the essays and be like, this is important to us.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
So it is. Yeah. Kelly also mentioned that there could be a better sunscreen testing method on the horizon, which really perked my ears up considering, like, our theme of the year has been we have a sunscreen testing problem. Yes.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
And as you know, like, there were all those Australian sunscreens that got recalled because of this specific testing facility. I mean, like, the whole thing is cuckoo bananas.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
So in the article, Kelly says that sunscreen testing methods are getting smarter. Traditionally, researchers apply sunscreen to volunteer skin and then expose them to UV light until the skin turns red. And as we know, that's not only uncomfortable for the people going through it and, like, ethically questionable because sun sunburns can lead to skin cancer.
Speaker B
Yep.
Speaker A
But it's not inclusive because if you have deeper skin tones, you can't see the redness or any redness in some cases. So there are some new methods, and they use techniques like UV spectroscopy, which is a tool that helps study how light interacts with different compounds, to objectively measure UV absorption. And it says that this approach leads to more accurate and inclusive results, and that these new methods may also improve the reliability and consistency of sunscreen testing while helping create more consistent global standards. However, they first need to gain broad regulatory approval, which I think is, like, standing in the way of, like, everything that we're going through in general. So we know that the FDA is, like, very slow to market. I mean, if we're slow to market to get, like, inclusive and elegant sunscreen filters that everybody else in the entire universe is using, I'm not feeling very hopeful that, like, our sunscreen testing problem will be solved anytime soon.
Speaker B
No.
Speaker A
But I do like the idea that this even exists.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Because before it was like, okay, you can do it in vitro or in vivo.
Speaker B
This is progress, guys.
Speaker A
And I. I'm like, this is a very exciting thing to me. So thank you to Kelly Dobos and thank you to Allure for breaking this down. I think this is, like, very exciting. And I know that in our Slack channel, we had some glams saying, there's a new sunscreen filter coming. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I love friggin Lilia. So we love that.
Speaker B
Amazing.
Speaker A
Okay, we have just one last thing that we want to cover.
Speaker B
Ooh, a listener question.
Speaker A
I get this question a lot, actually, and I'm curious if you do too, so.
Speaker C
I do.
Speaker A
So the question is if I'm shopping at Sephora. What skincare brands would you recommend? And I kind of break it down in terms of like, what are you looking for? And then buy everything from that brand. Yeah, it's what I call the proactive solution approach.
Speaker B
A system.
Speaker A
You have a system. Okay. So, Sarah.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
If you were gonna suggest a brand to somebody who is looking for efficacious ingredients, maybe backed by a dermatologist, is there a brand that you lean towards?
Speaker B
I would agree with you here. You have facilitate written down.
Speaker A
Yes.
Speaker B
I love her products and I love her as a person. Obviously I started seeing her because of you and she's just incredible. And then I recommended the products to a friend and now she swears by them and she herself is a doctor and she recommends it to her patients.
Speaker A
Amazing.
Speaker B
So it's just, it's, it's tried and true, you know, it's going to work again. Backed by a derm made by a derm.
Speaker A
That derm is Dr. Nancy Semolitis, by the way. We said.
Speaker B
Buried the lead. Sorry. Yes, Dr. Sam.
Speaker A
So Dr. Sam's brand, facile is in Sephora. They have a cleanser. They have four serums that you can choose from. They have a mask, if you so desire, and a moisturizer. And they have a lip.
Speaker B
The lip is so good.
Speaker A
They have an amazing lip that has a tint to it as well. So. But I think usually if you're looking for skincare, you're like gravitating towards like those basics.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
My favorite serum is de Stress because I like that it calms the skin. It has an ingredient called phytosphing. Say that ten times fast.
Speaker B
Phytosphyncine.
Speaker A
I can't say like normal words properly, but I can say phytosphyrocine.
Speaker B
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker A
You know, that's all you need. Let me live, let me live. But it really helps calm redness. So if you tend to have red, ruddy skin. I really love de stress. I know a lot of people like brighten because it has tranexamic acid. It has a bunch of different brightening ingredients within it.
Speaker B
Also clear acne.
Speaker A
Yeah. Or for breakouts, because you can't say acne when it comes to like, got it over the counter stuff. But for breakouts, so if you do have breakouts, clear is great. And then there's one more that I can't remember it.
Speaker B
Reverse their retinol firming serum.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
So that's, that's kind of where I go. I'm like, just find A serum or two that you like. From there, pick up their cleanser and their moisturizer, and then make sure you use your favorite sunscreen and go from there.
Speaker B
Agree.
Speaker A
I have one that I am calling the proactive for the new generation, and it's Sophie Pavitt.
Speaker B
I love it.
Speaker A
We love Sophie. We think that she is the acne whisperer for a reason.
Speaker B
And that mandelic acid serum, I go through it so quickly because I'm using it all the time because it's so gentle. But if I have any sort of. Any, like, pimple that's just about to come to the surface or any sort of breakout, I immediately put it on. And then, like, within a couple of days, it's clear.
Speaker A
Yeah, I have a pimple, like, right here at the corner of my mouth, like, near my chin. And it was very upset, and it's already started to go down because I just, like, busted out her mandelic acid stuff serum.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
She also has a beautiful cleanser. She has these little ice packs, the toner pads. Oh, the toner pads are great.
Speaker B
Is that the different. Is that different?
Speaker A
Yes.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker A
So there are the toner pads that, like, help. It's essentially like removing. I use it to remove the rest of my makeup when I'm traveling. Love that. But then she has these little ice packs. So if you get treatments, like, you get micro needle, you get, like, injectables, whatever, you put them in your freezer, and then you put them on your face.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
It's also just. I find putting something cold on my face before makeup makes my skin look better.
Speaker B
Yes. That's why you're supposed to dunk your face in the. In the bowl of ice.
Speaker A
She also has a moisturizer, too. So it's like, if you are really looking to get your breakouts under control, you have, like, texture on your skin. I always advise people, like, go to Sophie Pavitt and pick up her stuff.
Speaker B
You should listen to her episode if you have not of ours, because she really. She can't, you know, name drop all the celebrities, but she sees a lot, and she's helped a lot of them find a true system, like we said, to clear their skin. I also want to add the fridge to face blemish. Cooling mist is my favorite mist to use post workout, post, like, breakout, post treatment. I don't put it in the fridge, and it still already feels cooling. But if you. If you remember to put it in the fridge, I'm sure it feels even more incredible. But it's my favorite just Missed.
Speaker A
Amazing. If you have aging skin.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
You know, we're going to say Shani Darden.
Speaker B
She's our girl.
Speaker A
Love her moisturizer, obviously, her retinol reform. They recently reformulated it and that's been her hero since she started. She launched retinol. I learned about retinol through Shawnee many, many, many years ago. But her eye cream, I think is slept on. It's. It's one of the best eye creams I've ever used. She has an incredible azelaic acid serum.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
That essence is Am amazing.
Speaker B
So even when I would see Shani, she's like, I think my retinol's too strong for you. Use the azelaic acid serum.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
I feel like it's a step down.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
But.
Speaker B
And it's still effective.
Speaker A
Very effective. I feel like that's like the elevated brand in terms of skin care. That's at Sephora currently.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Like, if you want to see a change and you have actual change in.
Speaker A
Your skin, that's it. But it's not going to be like, you know, Tower 28 pricing.
Speaker B
Right.
Speaker A
And it's. It looks elevated as well. I feel like it's like the adults are talking. Totally go to Shawnee Darden.
Speaker B
But it's not like you're to spend, you know, over $100 on level.
Speaker A
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B
Which.
Speaker A
Exactly.
Speaker B
Don't ask me about that.
Speaker A
Of course, if you're just starting out, I would say Sincerely Yours, but it's like currently sold out everywhere. Is it? Yeah. Good luck with that.
Speaker B
Wow. Congrats to them.
Speaker A
By the way, I was looking at our shop. My people are buying. People are buying Sincerely Yours, like the. The starter kit from our shop. Amazing. Love that. But Tower 28 too.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
I think you have really sensitive skin. You just need, like three things. Go to Tower 28.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Anytime I have a tween in my life that wants a moisturizer or a cleanser, I always just give them Tower 28.
Speaker C
Yep.
Speaker B
Because I know it's just. It's going to do the job and it's not going to irritate them.
Speaker A
Okay. And then lastly.
Speaker B
Okay. I added the category of K Beauty because I feel like it's obviously top of mind for so many people and Sephora, I feel like, is going hard with carrying K Beauty brands. So. Have you tried Astora yet?
Speaker A
I haven't. I saw it when I went into a Sephora, but I. I have not had any experience.
Speaker B
It kind of has a small area and cap. Yeah. So I first started using Astora or discovered them, I should say. When I went to Korea and I went into an olive young and it was the Auto Barrier365 Cream is the number one product in all of young at all of young and, you know, all of young.
Speaker A
It's massive.
Speaker B
It's massive. There's so many K beauty brands, so I was like, okay, Koreans have the best skin. This is their favorite product. I'm going to use this. And it's great. So. So it's Korea's number one dermatologist recommended cosmetic brand for sensitive skin.
Speaker A
Interesting. I did not know that.
Speaker B
So it is. It reminds me of, like, kind of like Rhodes barrier repair cream, but it's a lot lighter. Restore barrier store cream. It's just, It's. It's. If you're looking for a lightweight and obviously they have different ones, but if you're looking for, like, a lightweight cream that. And if you have sensitive skin or you just want something that is, like, going to do its job, not have any fragrance in it, and it's not expensive, I would look into Astura. Like, the products are just so good. They have, like, toners and everything too. So you can buy the whole system, but start out with the moisturizer and then build your way up. But it's just like, it's a. It's a reliable K beauty brand. I almost feel like, I guess it's kind of like our Cetaphil, if you will.
Speaker A
Oh, interesting.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Oh, interesting. Okay. So. But I'm a big fan. I wasn't thinking that. I wasn't thinking of that comparison, so that's good to know.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Wow. Okay, so there you go. If you need skincare guidance, we gave you at least, like, five really good brands to go check out. Just literally stick to one of them and see how it all works for your skin and go from there.