Mitchel Cave and Christian Anthony of Chase Atlantic

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spk_0 Many you'll love this story. I this is a great story. This is like a very mini thing

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spk_0 Okay, I'm probably like one of Chase Atlantic's biggest fans. I believe it

spk_0 You're in my top five every year in Spotify wrapped I listened to your music like different times like I mean

spk_0 You're the one that reached out to us on true. Yeah, when I win when we met yeah, yeah, yeah, I truly

spk_0 Discovered me a music from day one. I liked it and then I met you and I loved it and then over the years

spk_0 What you guys have done has been nothing short of like continues to kind of blow my mind all the time

spk_0 But like as a as of someone who liked your music and

spk_0 Everything you've done. I like it. I don't know if you have an artist where you like everything they do

spk_0 I mean as as artists you like everyone no matter what they do

spk_0 It's cool. I feel like people like Travis Scott. Yeah pushing the boundaries all the time everything

spk_0 It does is cool. Yeah, you guys everything you guys do is cool. I mean watching you guys the golf video the golf video is sick

spk_0 Is that gonna be out by the time this comes out probably yeah? I don't know we're gonna just

spk_0 I mean the whole I don't think we really got to speak about it in the other interview but like us getting to know each other

spk_0 Yeah in the early days in Sydney and Bondi and then you guys filming the show and you bringing us to the show

spk_0 We were little rap bags man like we kids. We were rap bags like little yeah, yeah, you guys but like you have three guys

spk_0 Who are getting discovered by?

spk_0 You know two guys that we know very well and

spk_0 We see on TV every week you guys are all over Australian media. You're the bad boys of a show

spk_0 You're the bad boys of Australia. You know that you know

spk_0 What did you guys do a party or something in the hotel?

spk_0 There was weed that was my hotel. They the house keeping found weed in my hotel the house keeping

spk_0 There's a house keep that's right. I know a little bit you were there

spk_0 No, I was there when this happened you know you were there. I mean I was in Sydney you were in Sydney

spk_0 But we met shortly after maybe or around the time

spk_0 I can't remember if we met before or after that

spk_0 But I literally had just had people over I had a hotel like sweet that mini. I want Mitchell to hit this story

spk_0 Middiel loved this story. This is a great story. This is like a very middie thing

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spk_0 So do you remember like this Mitchell? No, you'll like this story

spk_0 We're talking about when Joel and Benz will all over Australian media for the winding road

spk_0 Yeah, you guys go a little bit high and you're in trouble. I didn't get high. We talked about this. I think in Brisbane

spk_0 Yeah, so what happened? We only touched on it. Sorry. This is truly what happened to set the record straight

spk_0 This is exactly what happened. Yeah Australian media

spk_0 This is it's not abducted me by the way

spk_0 I don't care about fucking anything. I don't care about weed. I get if nothing you don't care about fucking anything

spk_0 I won't hide it. You know like I'm not against it

spk_0 I'm also not the guy who's like smoking weed all the time. You know like you die hard. You know like I need weed

spk_0 Last time I smoked weed was with you you loved it

spk_0 I love you

spk_0 Mitchell took every single call was a police and I was like that

spk_0 Mitchell took me on mall Holland and he's like let's listen to music

spk_0 Three minutes

spk_0 There were some records you guys were working on music and he's like let's go and it's like two minutes for my house

spk_0 And there's like an overlook. It's nice

spk_0 But it's by the way

spk_0 But listen listen I got about it 11 at night. This doesn't have anything to do with what happened. It's 2 a.m

spk_0 He's hanging out and he's like already on it. It was like 12. It was 2 a.m

spk_0 I don't know. I do know. I was not high when I thought it's 2.a. Oh my god. I'm like I'm not going to bet so for tonight

spk_0 Yeah, right? So did I go with the car then we're listening to music and he's like

spk_0 Has a journey. Yeah, and he's like it looks and weed will be better a little bit of them. I was like I was like okay

spk_0 I'm very much like okay. I was like okay. He's like no it'll be better the music is better whatever

spk_0 It doesn't like

spk_0 To give it back to like being a tragic impress me a little bit Australian media pulls on no this is a way after yeah

spk_0 So then I get paranoid I get high really fast. Yeah, I'm like how the hell am I so high up because he'd already been smoking weed

spk_0 I think and maybe had like what's it called hot time? I was out of your comfort zone

spk_0 So like and I'm also like an anxious kind of me too, but like and also you like oh

spk_0 And then we're sitting there in the car and I'm like what are we doing?

spk_0 Like we're sitting here and there's cars. I'm like paranoid. He's like music down like I'm not telling the music down

spk_0 It's so loud. Yeah, and I'm like what if someone hears us. I don't know what I think

spk_0 Is this what happens if someone hears us they go hey

spk_0 What why he listens to music so loud in the house?

spk_0 Right, so anyway, by the way the music the music was great

spk_0 I was excited to listen to the music. I always am like I said before you sat here you anxious where they started

spk_0 Where this started was I was saying I'm one of your biggest fans

spk_0 I've consistently just liked everything you guys have done from the first music I heard where I reached out to you guys

spk_0 So now I've consistently liked everything you've done and

spk_0 You're always in my top spotify wrapped you're always in my so like I listen to your music and

spk_0 I get to hear demos and stuff. So it's like a fan. Yeah as a fan you buy carousel. It's a rich experience

spk_0 If you like someone's music and you get to hear like songs no one will ever hear and have you

spk_0 As well I think would be very

spk_0 Let's bring me bring it. Let's try to enjoy

spk_0 Lots you're there every step of the way. It's just amazing. So so to sit in his car listen to some new songs is exciting for me

spk_0 But to then throw the weed into it was just

spk_0 It makes it's a ball

spk_0 Make it look cool. It's just the end done at ages and you would why you were thinking about too much other stuff

spk_0 I don't know. I just like okay, so I I went with it

spk_0 I just like to leave in a hard drive car

spk_0 I have that

spk_0 No, so and then he's like and then the windows are down and it's like this is loud. I'm high

spk_0 I'm like every car that comes I'm like what I think it's the cops. Yeah, he's like I think it's the cops

spk_0 And he's like what are the cops gonna do

spk_0 What do they get legal like weed is legal? I'm like I don't know dude

spk_0 Like

spk_0 Yeah, so I try to explain like seven times room

spk_0 Yeah, in the end

spk_0 It was fine and it was great and I got to hear songs and it was great

spk_0 So back to Sydney what happened was I was staying at

spk_0 this hotel the darling harbor

spk_0 The star casino I've been to the place and

spk_0 I had I had like a I was there for like two months

spk_0 shooting the show

spk_0 And I had a like a pretty big room the show put me on a nice room nice hotel

spk_0 And I had had some friends over or something some people over it wasn't a party. It was like yeah

spk_0 just wine and dinner yeah

spk_0 Smoke the joint

spk_0 Who's done on the balcony or something and left it in the fucking aster. Yeah, that was it

spk_0 Everyone leaves. I leave the next morning to go to work house keeping comes in to clean the room

spk_0 I get home from work that evening from the set the

spk_0 Hotel manager who's waiting for me

spk_0 You're a leverage that we can't let you in your room

spk_0 Whoa, they don't love do that

spk_0 And he's like unfortunately a crime scene invested in

spk_0 Our housekeeping has found

spk_0 Drugs in your room and I'm like

spk_0 Drugs

spk_0 I was a hundred percent confident. I was like what what are you talking about?

spk_0 Fucking drugs. Just name and like the name of the person

spk_0 No, I was just like and he's like when they do that they have to report it to us

spk_0 And then when we find that if they report it to us we have to call the police

spk_0 Like we're just following rules and I was like okay

spk_0 And they're like so you have to stay with me the police are on their way

spk_0 And I was like, you know, they're very the police come and it's like all of

spk_0 I'm starting to get like I'm like wait wait what is this happening?

spk_0 And then the police come and they're like we have to go into your room and do a search

spk_0 Then then they turn the room over

spk_0 It's watching for drugs. It's a fucking roach dude. It's like this big

spk_0 Do you know how hard it is for Australian police officers to find like a high profile slash celebrity drug investigation

spk_0 Like they were fiending for that they would have milked it for everything they could get

spk_0 No, no, no, no actually the guy the cop was like I'm really sorry

spk_0 Yeah, once they call us

spk_0 What I would say is the hotel fucked me. Yeah, the hotel was a was team Z was thinking like wrong

spk_0 Like we got a now like this guy. So I don't know what they were thinking that's I'm saying no one really comes to Australia with drug

spk_0 Stuff like here. Here's what I think if I'm being really honest. I had gotten very comfortable there

spk_0 And I and I'm very like at the time had a very a very familiar relationship with everyone there like in the hotel Sydney

spk_0 Someone in the chain was going was trying to like tall poppy me. Yeah, try blackmail. Yeah, they're trying to just cut me down

spk_0 Like I don't think it was housekeeping because I was really fucking nice to them. Mm-hmm, but they don't tell me it's probably like the family members on me who knows man

spk_0 So anyways, don't touch people cigarettes and see if they smell funny. Yeah

spk_0 Yeah, the whole thing is really strange, but you roll a lot of cigarettes in the show

spk_0 So the cops were cool. Yeah, but I have to say that they were like yeah, of course

spk_0 It's beyond us now like once they call us and we come and like once this goes into effect like once this happens

spk_0 Yeah, like we have to come we have to investigate

spk_0 They they found the thing and then he was like I'm really sorry, but like now I have to write this down

spk_0 And he's like I'm just gonna give you a

spk_0 official one some kind of citation

spk_0 And then and then you have to go see a judge or something yeah

spk_0 And they have to like let you go basically that they have to basically decide this isn't big enough

spk_0 Which is what'll happen? He's like so you just have to process this like go through the process

spk_0 But the news paper yeah made it look like I got caught with like a pound of lead

spk_0 I

spk_0 In like the media stuff and the celebrity stories like it's really

spk_0 About it if it happened now I could just take a picture of it put it on Instagram ago. This is what they found no

spk_0 They probably still figure out a way to be like it was PCP

spk_0 But it's interesting it was PCP weed. It's interesting because it's a what is PCP?

spk_0 It's not it's a new South Wales. It's like you get a warning right. It's not like Queensland like the states have different

spk_0 I did a drug diversion course. So I didn't get anything on my record. I can go into Australia

spk_0 It was the police were cool. They made it

spk_0 Did you go to court? No, no, I had to get like maybe like a solicitor or someone to like go and

spk_0 File something and like it was fine. The police were cool. It's shit

spk_0 The hotel or someone at the hotel made the newspaper thing

spk_0 It's it's the what was that blurb like I can't believe they've done this

spk_0 This hotel's been squeak

spk_0 It said the dooby brothers. They've been smoking the devil's letters. I like the dooby brothers

spk_0 Yeah, so then we'd we'd twins

spk_0 Yeah, but it was everywhere. I saw all this this there was like they called me in

spk_0 By the way at the time seal was the one who was like the only one in the entire equation who like went publicly

spk_0 And was like this is fucked up. What are you guys doing stupid? You know, I mean

spk_0 Yeah, pretty good guy to have like on your side

spk_0 It seems like a solid

spk_0 He's really cool. He's cool guy. He's great. So anyways

spk_0 They called me in for a meeting

spk_0 Right when the newspaper hit it was like front page and they were like we're trying to decide if we're gonna

spk_0 Do they call to send me or they kiss us about it. No, they were they were

spk_0 They're better than you. Huh?

spk_0 Stupid Americans. This is very bad. Oh

spk_0 Triumplead like why you should say it. Yeah, I said

spk_0 I literally said do what you gotta do if you need to fire me fire me

spk_0 I don't even know what to say. They found a fucking roach in my room

spk_0 It was was this it was at the same time the bench was also no no this was I was solo

spk_0 This was when you saw us before so then I'm gonna put in a good word and then you know my my best bud rich

spk_0 Yeah, which wine bird dinner so rich

spk_0 Bought the

spk_0 Rich said come to my house you can stay at my house get the fuck out of that hotel. Yeah, and I literally went to his house

spk_0 We went to dinner and then now I only stayed at his house. Yeah, man safe

spk_0 There's only a few people in your life where you can go like I'm gonna go stay at your house when I come to that country

spk_0 Yeah, yeah, thank you for having me. Well, it's pretty huge house

spk_0 The very guy like

spk_0 Four out of the

spk_0 Don't see rich like throughout the day even if you're staying in the same place

spk_0 The guest house is big as my fucking regular house. So anyways, but I will say this rich was like come to my house

spk_0 Whatever I did the next day. Yeah, moved out

spk_0 Went to his house and now for over 10

spk_0 12 years now when I go to Sydney I only stay at rich itself. We you guys

spk_0 So that was at the same when you guys did the voice with Bench. Yeah, was it the same state of

spk_0 So it reaches yeah, I was saying when um you and I and couldn't went backstage those times

spk_0 Oh, yeah, we just met you guys you guys invited us and there was in the backstage area

spk_0 Why you guys are filming so you get to watch? Yeah, soon as you walk in it's just us and there's a fridge just full of

spk_0 Corona's and I'm pretty sure by the end of the night there was no more Corona's

spk_0 I just lost three and just fall to be here

spk_0 Maybe had to wait by the way at they're like 17 made yeah, yeah, we were allowed to drink

spk_0 Yeah, it's Australia. Hmm. I'm a backstage. Yeah, but 17 you can drink backstage 18 you can drink anyway

spk_0 You guys were funny that is correct. The backstage area was pretty nice. It was lovely

spk_0 Refrigerator full of beer. Don't worry. I just don't get to ever see that the food was untouched

spk_0 Yeah, at the time you hadn't been on tour yet all that you were kids. I don't know

spk_0 I don't know over the course of the night there's less beer in the fridge

spk_0 And then you keep coming backstage and like the fridge is happening

spk_0 And then the fridge is empty I kept during Chris. I kept during Christian to go on stage and um

spk_0 Like to get the phone performance

spk_0 And then I just kept doing it the Kevin Rebius and he says gonna do it and then you move

spk_0 I'm stuck in chicken. Let's chicken out. Yeah, wait. It was to be a because obviously

spk_0 Mitch and I did that kind of thing. No, like so there's guys that look like us. Yeah, well

spk_0 You know, we did we were on the other side of that before so

spk_0 We were literally on a show like that. Yeah, you were we would treat it you're not treated like cuck on in it because like

spk_0 You treated like shit. Yeah, because like that just so condescending. Yeah, you're just a

spk_0 Product that you want to be a famous little boy, huh? Yeah, and we're the powerful. I mean the crazy

spk_0 We know there's so much I can't even sing but I know your shit like they dress to you

spk_0 They put you in like like they dress us in like neon yellow colors and stuff

spk_0 It's like different color pants to the top like a blue pants yellow jacket and you don't you can't be like

spk_0 I don't want to wear this you don't you don't get to say yeah, you just want to make it when you're that age

spk_0 You think that these people

spk_0 They're talking about

spk_0 You're like these TV producers know what they're talking about you like as an adult now. Yeah, it's like some of the music industry

spk_0 Also the um something I learned from that is obviously the production and the companies and the labels behind have their favorites

spk_0 And I remember we did our first performance

spk_0 And we were like rivaled with another boy band

spk_0 And then their production like we get like bangles or something and then it goes to them and they have this

spk_0 firing like fire

spk_0 Floating dragons. Yeah, they get dragons who wins. Yeah, the production was like

spk_0 Maybe ten times every word it. Yeah, of course. They made the band. They tried to copy a full-on-one direction. Yeah

spk_0 Thank God it wasn't you. Yeah, thank the Lord about Lord, huh?

spk_0 Look at you now. I know. Yeah, let's talk about you now look at us now. Look at us. Look at us.

spk_0 Chase Atlantic in 2025. What year did you guys start?

spk_0 Seven 2014 2014 in 20 25. It's been a long journey. I'm yeah, I couldn't see the microphone

spk_0 So yeah, I've fixed the microphone now to go to blindsboy

spk_0 In 2025 20 million monthly listeners. It's hard to like wrap your head around

spk_0 eight numbers

spk_0 Billion with a B with a B with a Billy boys eight billion streams on Spotify alone just Spotify

spk_0 Ten streams on it. I wish Apple music would tell you where I can wish they would tell you this day

spk_0 Streams

spk_0 That music

spk_0 Zaynler said he didn't want three

spk_0 two point seven million youtube subscribers

spk_0 Two billion views oh week Billy Billy boys twice certifications verified on Instagram a lot of them nine gold certifications

spk_0 Well, I go to it my house. That's it. Oh mommy swim into it friends

spk_0 Slow down think you mean diamond go okay six platinum certification six okay, yeah

spk_0 Two times platinum

spk_0 Your last tour just your last tour talk about anything before just your last tour

spk_0 sold over 250,000 tickets quarter of a million tickets shout out to you guys for just believing in us and we love you

spk_0 You sold out the oh two we know that mm-hmm. There's a concert film. Yeah, I've heard we've concept we're going to theaters going to theaters

spk_0 I would bet any amount of money you guys are a top five box office release with that concert film if not number one

spk_0 All-time and I know um of that week

spk_0 competing with

spk_0 You're you're upcoming South America run including Argentina is already sold out two times

spk_0 But we have that a second menu second menu and which also sold out our team is sold out obviously

spk_0 We said you're in the Spotify Billions Club which is twice hard to do

spk_0 Good Charlotte isn't in that just so you know

spk_0 Yeah, it's okay. I get it but still I'm just saying I'm just okay. It's okay. I'm saying it so you

spk_0 You guys from the live live? No, no, no, what I'm saying is it so that you understand what you've accomplished

spk_0 I'm not saying listen. I'm I am 46 okay, so I'm almost 20

spk_0 Years older than you guys right and so I look at it from a different angle than you do

spk_0 And I go okay for your ages because of the last 11 years you feel older than you are

spk_0 Okay, because you have experience. Yeah, but sometimes

spk_0 Sometimes I want you guys to stop and look at what you accomplished. Yeah, I mean we were surprised

spk_0 We just you almost didn't give us a card we have to stop and we don't have to give us cards more

spk_0 It's definitely we are so on the move all the time

spk_0 We were thinking ahead whenever really reflecting I get it and you should be there's moments where I find myself being able to reflect and I really appreciate the work that we've done

spk_0 Yeah, but that's like our honesty I long for those moments because they're very far from here between yeah, I mean

spk_0 Well, I think it's good that you look at that for the most part we need to just keep charging forward

spk_0 But every now and then it is good to stop and reflect I know you guys have gratitude because I see you

spk_0 With fans. I see you on backstage. I see you guys in

spk_0 In the work

spk_0 But for you to sit there and just me name off some things because there's more than what I just named you guys have accomplished more than that

spk_0 But to just see some of it and actually go whoa you're not old you're young

spk_0 You've achieved a lot and you're on the verge of a lot more and we know that

spk_0 We know what between us what the things that are happening and the things that are coming

spk_0 And the fans will find out soon enough

spk_0 This actually this episode drops the same day as the deluxe taught

spk_0 So I just think it's a cool it's really just a gratitude practice right

spk_0 It's a good moment to stop and reflect on like what you've done over the last 10 11 years with your life

spk_0 Hmm, where's our proud of each other? I think and we're just kind of still is gonna be a while still before that or kind of goes away

spk_0 Of of being like a like this like all these are calm. It's gonna be hard to kind of wrap our heads around all these accomplishments

spk_0 Until we have the time to actually sit and reflect I think as well as we're not

spk_0 We're in a really good space but kind of the curse of being an artist is you want to get you want to be bigger

spk_0 You want the numbers to get better the curse of being a good you know the first yeah the first gold plaque means the world

spk_0 And then you want the platinum and then you want the diamond

spk_0 You just want you just want more and more and more and I just feel like we still have the intentions of being the biggest band in the world

spk_0 And I'm not looking at that best looking not looking at the first one that went gold be like that's the type of music that's good enough

spk_0 Yeah, no, there are artists with only one gold song and they they start making songs that are only that slow, you know, I mean yeah

spk_0 Yeah, try all the stuff you can't just look back at that one thing that's done really well and be like we've got to keep trying to replicate that just

spk_0 Just keep trying to

spk_0 Do what you're doing and I feel like digging for mine and there's no more rock left. We also have

spk_0 The thing for diamonds we have this thing where we release music and then two years later. It picks that's when it picks up

spk_0 It's always that that's like the the story of chase Atlantic you release an album you're like two years ahead

spk_0 Truly what I what as a fan what I see I actually think any of your fans listening would agree with me

spk_0 And they probably don't know like how good of a fan I am

spk_0 Right like how versed I am in like

spk_0 Chase world and what I see with every album I tell you guys it takes about two years to mature

spk_0 The rest of the world catches up and then you your other artist kind of doing what you were doing two three years ago

spk_0 It's interesting to me because I watch all that and I'm in the world because I work in music and I see some artists give you your flowers

spk_0 Sometimes I can see it, but I mean doesn't that mean it really do give us the flower

spk_0 It sounds super conceived to say but like listen to music and we'll be like

spk_0 That I'm certain like if the stats went there say we had like a hundred thousand monthly listeners

spk_0 I would be like maybe they're not but the stats of that and then look at the other artists like I

spk_0 It's a very high

spk_0 Possibility that they are

spk_0 Right, but what's interesting to me is that you guys don't come across as bitter no

spk_0 I

spk_0 It's a highest form of flattery. I mean beat us. So good. We did it too when we when we started out

spk_0 We the first kind of songs that we were writing we just we're trying to make pop songs

spk_0 We didn't have like a direction and it was other artists and bands the 1975 that really we were like we want to be a band

spk_0 We want to make this so it's it's the highest boundaries, but they won't push them so far that no one could relate or

spk_0 trying

spk_0 Do it themselves. Yeah, so if people are trying to

spk_0 Emulated or they're inspired by it. I think it's the biggest form of flattery. We I want to hear stuff

spk_0 I want to hear though. I want to hear what they've what they've got

spk_0 Jeremy something that is like a full remix of

spk_0 Like a different song or just make a song be like this is something that I want to sell to chase. You know, it's it's quite hard to

spk_0 Replicate us though without trying to sound

spk_0 Yeah, that's a thing it's hard to see it's not a song can see it but like yeah

spk_0 We're really hard because all of the elements starting is a band and then at the same time is starting a band

spk_0 Mitchell making EDM like crazy EDM and then bringing those two else together moving to America trying to

spk_0 You see the sky young dark Christian. There's a bunch about like just rock and roll like like old school like

spk_0 like pioneering

spk_0 like rock and

spk_0 I'm blanking for some reason

spk_0 One of these sound effects of the coins and sound effect with the coins. Yeah, they use like sound effects and stuff and like

spk_0 King Crimson King Crimson. Yeah, like King Crimson. That's all right. They're like they were like pioneering. Hmm. That's it's just it's

spk_0 Some conscious shit. There's the whole road of the production behind it and what we were listening to it's it's very you have to literally

spk_0 Do what we did step from step on the ground sound cloud like that the best music that the world is we grew up in the best age for the sound cloud stuff like

spk_0 Now it's just flooded with the right. Yeah, we also

spk_0 Distorting and we also were lucky because we were at the era after linewire and

spk_0 Linewire well, I mean we obviously used it but Spotify and stuff is didn't see I didn't see it. I wasn't seeding

spk_0 You know what that is? No, okay, so when you download

spk_0 When you download something you also got to seed it when you're doing piracy right right you also got to upload and help people

spk_0 The same time for seeding so there's a website that um someone who isn't me uses a friend

spk_0 There's a swim reference swim reference

spk_0 Um a friend of mine that uses it and he had to like pay money to rush and

spk_0 Just some Russian people and then it's just this website. I'm not gonna say a name a bit where the front page looks like this generic like really just nothing like maybe like

spk_0 What's that? She's a sugarfish. What's that website called?

spk_0 Sweet water. Oh sweet water. Sweet water. Sweet. You're about to toss it. I got that basically. Yeah, yeah sweet water

spk_0 Sweet water. So it looks like that in the outside and then you pay like $60 to these

spk_0 Russian people and they you can get like literally the day like a new software comes out

spk_0 They will have it on the website the next day. Oh well, and but you have to continue to upload

spk_0 Otherwise they cancel your account. Mm-hmm. So you have to contribute to

spk_0 Yeah, yeah, it's helping other people

spk_0 Tributing to the server and having more power and being able to have people download things faster and

spk_0 And if they don't if you don't see they're just like see you which was the same with lime wire

spk_0 You'd be downloading and you'd be seeding so you'd be uploading at the same time. Mm-hmm. So you're helping and then you get like

spk_0 And then they just kick you off forever

spk_0 That's like a world I don't know anything about

spk_0 So it's also another thing that we grew up with you know, yeah, just computer-node stuff. Yeah

spk_0 It is kind of nerdy

spk_0 It's illegal so we didn't do it. Oh, it was like our friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

spk_0 Do you feel like the last two years of chase Atlantic? Would you say I?

spk_0 I guess I'm trying to mark where the bands at because I do feel like the last two years has been

spk_0 this kind of compounding growth

spk_0 That has started to okay, so the other day we were we were in a meeting and it was someone said that chase Atlantic is the best kept secret in the music business

spk_0 Right, it's a band that's a substantial size arena band that you could ask the average music fan

spk_0 That's listening to top 40 or whatever and they might not know chase Atlantic

spk_0 But that's actually not the experience I have when I talk to my kids or teenagers, right?

spk_0 Which is crazy because you knew my kids when they were yeah looking little right everyone knows chase Atlantic in certain places

spk_0 But it feels like the industry at large are just finding out about you guys

spk_0 Yeah, they're no about you now because everyone's talking about your ticket sales and talking about your this but like it does feel like it's hitting

spk_0 a

spk_0 Critical point of like they have to kind of I feel like almost like this is just one theory that I have is that they'll keep you in on the download

spk_0 So they could use that infrastructure knowing that they

spk_0 Wouldn't get much pushback on our end

spk_0 You know, I mean because we were so kind of small we didn't have much we weren't able to

spk_0 Back ourselves

spk_0 As strongly as we would nowadays well, I would say you didn't have the mass you have now

spk_0 You've got a map there was no way to prove it could have just been like parallel though

spk_0 Forget about pop right you have critical mass with fans

spk_0 You have a movement of fans you have you have fans if you if you wanted to put your own show on somewhere

spk_0 You could do that and fans would show up. Yeah, you've operated outside of the mainstream of the marketing and the promotion and all that

spk_0 So like if you wanted to put a show on sale

spk_0 You could go directly to chase Atlantic fans tell them and they will show up and you have control now you do

spk_0 And I think that's the point where you get the leverage and the influence that you have now as a band

spk_0 Which is when we show up with the thing people come yeah, oh?

spk_0 Well narcotics. Yeah, I

spk_0 Your fans you

spk_0 You know, give them the fix. I think there's something as well about we got this stuff

spk_0 You're the narcotics people in my experiences in situations if I've been like I'm in this band

spk_0 They might not know the name, but as soon as I say oh we did this song this song

spk_0 But I feel like people have this assumption whether it's record labels and stuff

spk_0 They have this assumption that we're kind of

spk_0 Anti pop or like don't want to go to

spk_0 I mean even the meeting they were like oh you do are interested in doing a VMAs

spk_0 Yeah, you do want to go to the VMAs or the Grammys or any of them

spk_0 We watch them at home and I go down I really try now hard to see why wouldn't we want trophies

spk_0 I just think you guys are naturally quite cool as a band it feels like

spk_0 It's not that you said it. It's that if there's a feeling of

spk_0 I think because you've had to make your own way and you've had to rely on your own luck

spk_0 It's kind of yeah, we had to like find like the impossible the narrower like

spk_0 Crack in the wall to fit in to like because so much of the music industry is every genre has been taken

spk_0 You know, I mean yeah, there's only so many notes only so many chords only so many cadence is only so many patterns rhythms

spk_0 ETC

spk_0 But we somehow just kept working to be able to find

spk_0 Something that wasn't taken yet

spk_0 And it was a culmination of different aspects of all those like say it was like a big umbrella

spk_0 And then you had branched off like the regular things

spk_0 And then yeah every time that goes down like doubles

spk_0 You know, I mean and we're defined like different combinations

spk_0 To create one new branch that hadn't been created yet. Yeah. Do you think that was like intentional?

spk_0 Or we just I think we fell into it subconsciously intention with the with the subconscious

spk_0 So yeah, okay subconsciously we wanted to do something different, but it was just we couldn't have stuff sound too

spk_0 Similar to yeah, I know that that that's called integrity you guys have integrity

spk_0 So when you go when you go to make something you are trying to make something original

spk_0 Not trying to sound like the thing that's big so that you could be

spk_0 You know maybe inspired by it

spk_0 But there is an authenticity thing and an integrity thing that you guys have that I find is rare

spk_0 Because most people are caught up on the shiny thing where they go. Oh that one's number one

spk_0 I want to be like that one. I'm gonna make that one and then they make something that's some version of you know

spk_0 The number one song

spk_0 But in being that and so what I think the originality of what chase Atlantic is and why it's successful is that of

spk_0 authenticity originality and

spk_0 Good music right so in going down that road you're not in the habit of pandering

spk_0 For anyone to like you for anyone to follow you for anyone to invite you

spk_0 Think about it right chase Atlantic. Why is that I think and then people to this day

spk_0 You go on tour and you're

spk_0 Soley relying on chase Atlantic to sell the tickets. Yeah, you're not going into like patch working like oh they sell a thousand tickets

spk_0 We'll do that. They sell you're not doing that. You're not it's not a math equation to you

spk_0 You've only relied on your on your selves for everything and I think on one hand it's harder

spk_0 Well, it's all listen

spk_0 It's a harder longer road but it pays off it pays off and what does happen though is I think it starts to feel like

spk_0 Which is cool to hear you say no we do want to go to the VMAs

spk_0 We do want to do that because most people would think that you don't care about anything

spk_0 And it's not actually the case the cases that you've we don't have to operate on an island. We don't care for the for the

spk_0 P.O. stunts but I think yeah, I get it totally the next year is going to be interesting because

spk_0 What I'm seeing and the way the world is is starting to look at chase Atlantic reactive chase Atlantic

spk_0 Talk about chase Atlantic as I think the opportunities are gonna come and they're coming in the right way

spk_0 Where you get to go and do some things that you haven't done before but you still get to do them your way

spk_0 And it doesn't feel like you're begging anyone to invite you to the party. Yeah, I mean that's a thing with it too

spk_0 It's like we want to do this stuff, but we also

spk_0 We're fine not we're fine not to it's just we'd like to do it

spk_0 We want to go have a little night out do the little red carpet thing, but if

spk_0 We want to be asked as well

spk_0 Yeah, I mean even the you know that runoff brand. I'm sitting at home at the you know watching the aria or the

spk_0 Australian tic-toc stuff and I see friends there and I can't want to go to that that was fun

spk_0 Looks fun to go watch live shows and see I think we're on the verge of Australia

spk_0 fully embracing chase Atlantic show

spk_0 Lost and we played that it was very obvious. Yeah, it's the Aussie way. They've almost forgotten where's training

spk_0 Which is a good thing. Yeah, there's definitely I've definitely seen that they're like oh that American bands coming

spk_0 You know

spk_0 Who was it one of the first reviews we got from an Australian

spk_0 Company was like they sound very American like the the music

spk_0 Just means that it sounds like that doesn't mean and like it's just it's just a different

spk_0 We sound very American. Yeah, that's the whole sentence. Yeah, not as talking this. Yeah. What is that good thing?

spk_0 Is this a good or bad? It's very vague. There's an Australian journalist who I would say is one of the most

spk_0 Long-running credible Australian music journalist

spk_0 Kathy Kathy Kathy Kathy Kathy she was she was she was so lovely. She's she's tapped in a little she loves you guys

spk_0 She's amazing that's a gauge for me when Kathy like she's tapped in she was she was like kicking Australia's

spk_0 music but she was not what you know she's like

spk_0 She knew everything it wasn't like a real way so the way I relate to the world and music and like

spk_0 Kind of knowing what the future looks like the tea leaves is certain things like fans

spk_0 I always knew you guys would continue to be successful because I could see your fans

spk_0 There's something about there's a lot of them to see but but there's something about real fan engagement and real fan

spk_0 excitement

spk_0 Versus like this like inflated produced

spk_0 Fan excitement that feels like it's being marketed that you have a bunch of fans

spk_0 But you're like where are they that's a real thing they can yes

spk_0 It's a marketing thing that's where record labels kind of mess with artists

spk_0 They mess with artists that way right and and then I see real fan bases

spk_0 You know and you guys have had this organic fandom fan base. That's just continually

spk_0 grown and because we said no to all this all that bullshit. Yeah, and and then there's other things

spk_0 I look at where real ones people that have been in music for so long

spk_0 And they see real right and that's why I look at Kathy as I see Kathy and she's she's like a bet. Yeah, she smells the real

spk_0 artists and

spk_0 She's been a music journalist for fucking decades. She loves she cares about music. She cares about that's it

spk_0 She cares about the state of music in Australia. Yeah, she's not about politics. She cares about the music right like

spk_0 How do we usually find out about artists usually from other artists?

spk_0 Because real artists point out the real shit

spk_0 I look at her and there's other people like that in America as well that like they spot the shit

spk_0 Because they're artists in their own right like Kathy's an artist. She's literally she's right

spk_0 So I thought it was interesting when I talked to her and and she was genuine

spk_0 Like she believes in you guys

spk_0 And she's proud of it like she cares about the music and she cares about Australian music too like that's her world

spk_0 Does it are cool. She's saying like um like

spk_0 Australia's top three biggest exports. Mm-hmm. Well, she she called us the biggest band you've never heard of yeah

spk_0 Yeah, yeah, and they was an interview that you guys did with her and then um

spk_0 My mom's mom and dad's friends

spk_0 Read it and then sent it to mom and dad and it was like an interview with like

spk_0 Sun news or something. Yeah, yeah, and then she's talking about how like I came to the studio and make bodies

spk_0 Mm-hmm, and then what do you say it was like it was like working with a tornado? Yeah

spk_0 That is I'm just gonna start spinning whatever I say I'm just gonna start spinning as fast I can that's it

spk_0 That's a good part about you. That's a good way to describe you though

spk_0 Even the way that you come to the running but it's like you come in your

spk_0 Crazy and you spin around and the computer like spins around it comes back

spk_0 And then what you've got is a better product

spk_0 That thing is Mitchell comes in

spk_0 Spins around the room he leaves and we're like wait this got better

spk_0 He's like who come in here. It is I like this one second spins around

spk_0 I think that's a hit and then we work on it. Oh the song's good now. We're like what's this happened?

spk_0 Yeah, it's decoying

spk_0 It's like okay

spk_0 I'm just gonna have a buddy go Mitchell also has um a really good

spk_0 This is something that I envy in you

spk_0 I remember from

spk_0 Studio city houses. I would hear him start something and I was like shit. It's a terrible idea

spk_0 Like I'd almost be like oh, I don't know about this one and then like a few hours later

spk_0 You know maybe go downstairs and I come back and he's like check this out. It's a it's the same

spk_0 Maybe little idea at the stop but it's turned into a full idea and he's like I had to work on this

spk_0 I had to make this sound good and I think that that's pretty impressive

spk_0 Most people would just like this isn't this isn't gonna work, you know

spk_0 Move on but you like I'm gonna keep you down better that as well. You know we would move on

spk_0 But now you're sticking with it longer because there's lots of things you can do to an idea

spk_0 You can't just start with the idea. It's like okay. Let me change it if this is if this sound or this

spk_0 It's honestly a challenge just be once you drag something in you know sound great

spk_0 But let me see if I can make it yeah, yeah see what I can do to it and that makes you have to overcompensate with other things

spk_0 You wouldn't only do mm and then because you've overcompensated you invest a more time

spk_0 And since you invest a more time you actually can more about the instrumental and so you start trying to make it as good as it can be

spk_0 Yes, no, it's it's um it's pretty impressive trait. What is your favorite thing about Mitchell?

spk_0 my lips

spk_0 um

spk_0 Hmm as as as a friend or as a performer

spk_0 I'll stay as downstairs my lips

spk_0 That's a good question. Hmm because it's two different things in it

spk_0 Yeah, because I was just thinking um way now I was listening to answer that question where I find

spk_0 After knowing you for a decade watching you grow up in this shit

spk_0 You know what I mean? I find that when I see you in your element making music

spk_0 Or on stage is a it's a part of you. It's not as a different person

spk_0 It's the same person when I see you in your element where you're doing what you're really fucking good at

spk_0 There's a there's a poise that you have

spk_0 That is really interesting because the guy that we all hang out with at your house or at a dinner or whatever is fun

spk_0 And chaotic, it's a little bit of a there's a focus

spk_0 That is like a next level

spk_0 There's not a lot of frontman only good frontman and only good bands right because I could say this about all of you

spk_0 and and Clint's not here, but

spk_0 We could say this when you get to see

spk_0 someone and a group doing what they do really fucking good

spk_0 Well, you have to focus to do it to put the show on you have to focus

spk_0 But you can watch other bands and you can see other people try to do it at the level and you go

spk_0 Pretty good. I was okay. I was just connect from watching other bands as well now and being and not trying not to

spk_0 Like like think about critically what they're doing and not trying criticize

spk_0 You know too much there's there's so slight little facial things that you can see between a guitarist and a singer now and you're like

spk_0 Those guys just had a fight before

spk_0 It's like you're hearing and you're like

spk_0 Should have made them do something there. Yeah, yeah, yeah

spk_0 Oh

spk_0 But like it's because where I don't know it becomes very hard to log off and I think if you on the theater stuff kind of if you watch us

spk_0 Just before stage like I think about the the tick-tock live stream we did and just before we go on stage, you know

spk_0 We're all messing around you know

spk_0 We're being stupid all the way up to the moment that somebody says in our ears says walk

spk_0 And then as soon as you got the stairs it's like the cat you just got to run up the stairs, but as soon as it goes on stage

spk_0 It's like all of us just flip a switch

spk_0 But it is it's it's very funny to see the backstage stuff and then we're just fucking around like the whole time like you

spk_0 I the oh to show like yeah

spk_0 At the oh to show you would not have thought this band is about to play in front of 20,000

spk_0 We'll just sit in there playing some people playing chess. Oh, yeah, we had the playing hide and seek

spk_0 We had like a no I've got no something as well like we'll play we'll definitely hide and seek

spk_0 Probably right before yeah, we're trying to find you

spk_0 Yeah, he was way through the set Jesse found me. Yeah, middie was playing hide and seek we couldn't find him before the show

spk_0 But it is a very cool thing that not even in the biggest show of our lives

spk_0 There's so many pretentious people out there and we always talk about it Christ and I

spk_0 There's just yeah, there are pretentious artists again to not sound conceited like we're very successful in

spk_0 In our own right, you know

spk_0 and yeah, no doubt to see it just breaks my heart to see other artists that I'm in close to that level

spk_0 And they just people behaving and such a big added yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel that way too

spk_0 Break my heart. I feel that way too. I feel like I see people almost like it's a it's an inflation, right?

spk_0 They're trying to puff themselves up to be as big as they think they should be or a character that they think they should play

spk_0 The character it really gets them fought too quick because like we've all been through and I haven't seen any like I haven't seen

spk_0 Any of us like become like a piece a real piece of shit

spk_0 Well, yeah, like I noticed when I'm backstage, right? It feels like I'm hanging out at one of your houses

spk_0 Yeah, and that's how it should feel I think right yeah

spk_0 I noticed that with a few other people and they're all really fucking great artists

spk_0 Mm-hmm. It's like step one. Yeah, and so it's interesting when I find that the people that have like a comfortable environment backstage where it feels like

spk_0 welcoming and it feels like it feels chill

spk_0 Friendship is important friendship and it also feels like they've done a thousand shows and they know yeah

spk_0 What they're doing and and you then you know if you're having a great time relaxed time backstage

spk_0 And you're not tense before you go on stage. You're gonna have fun on stage

spk_0 Yeah, and if we're excited before you go on stage, we're at the best shows

spk_0 Yes, but also isn't there something to not being miserable all day before you play that night. Yeah, hurry up and wait thing the hurry up and wait

spk_0 That's such a good that's such a good quote quickly get to the venue she can see that was six hours. Yeah, I think every was miserable

spk_0 I don't know if everybody's miserable and why are we all fucking on tour? Well, that's that's a good thing that we that Jesse's really good at

spk_0 We can have kind of the the room, you know after three or a month on the road

spk_0 You're doing the same thing so you can get a bit complacent

spk_0 And Jesse's very good at turning the music up and flaring us up making us to push ups and

spk_0 Hiping us up

spk_0 Jesse Boyle Jesse Boyle he's he's very optimist. He's probably one of the best people you could have on tour

spk_0 He's a good friend. He's a great friend. That's the best part is that we've been friends with each other Patrick as well

spk_0 It's a it's where brothers. Yeah, we're not a band that's been put together or we didn't become a band with the

spk_0 Focus of like let's be the biggest band in the world. There was a little sprinkle of destiny

spk_0 For sure. Yeah, because like to have

spk_0 One person and then just happens at their friend is Pat, you know

spk_0 And then the best guitarist I've ever met I mean that that was that was the first two people

spk_0 They know a little bit like you see past try to a little bit. You're like reds

spk_0 Like he's waiting well

spk_0 Listen, I go back to this Australian thing that I always say like Australian musician

spk_0 Like they all have to be good to like call themselves a musician

spk_0 But then they can't then like no trash

spk_0 None of them really actually like profess how good they are

spk_0 So it's kind of nonchalant where you're like like you can almost count that like Aussie

spk_0 Musicians are like are gonna be good, but then then all the sudden Pat you see patch Fred and you're like, you know

spk_0 He's got this soul. He doesn't even say that he can do it. He's got the fun. No, he doesn't pat his pets awesome

spk_0 He's figured that down to a mathematical equation. I showed that. Yeah, he's also a genius

spk_0 Yeah, like he's he's got his masters. I just saw that reason. I think I knew that he had his masters degree

spk_0 He's working the whole but I saw his uh we had to get a our

spk_0 Criminal records to go to Chile for immigration. So it is in your DNA. I am in trouble

spk_0 And it is in your DNA has like highest level of education and there's masters. I'm gonna put

spk_0 Hogwarts Hogwarts

spk_0 Have completed because you went to universe. I can't believe it. I completed Hogwarts. This is pre-volum

spk_0 There was no there wasn't a single school incident my whole high school

spk_0 Like bullshit. Did you live under the stairs? What's that? Did you live under the stairs? No, but I

spk_0 I'll tell you my Hogwarts were at the house because I didn't live at that house. You see these are some

spk_0 Atari Potter's house. It's it's Harry Potter

spk_0 But under the moving stairs. Yeah, I had a few first kisses under there

spk_0 There's a few good spells used on me. I had a few first kisses. Yeah, you used them the memory one

spk_0 On your side. No, the girls do it to me. What's the most exciting thing about being in chase Atlantic?

spk_0 The fact that we get to hang out without friends all the time and

spk_0 And

spk_0 That we still get to do the thing that we loved that that nine to five kind of would have destroyed

spk_0 Hmm. I think in a sense

spk_0 I think that we get to travel the world like going to Japan for the first time and get complacent and you like

spk_0 Japan was awesome

spk_0 Mm-hmm, then you go to take a step back and you're like wow we're in change it for the world. Yeah

spk_0 But there's so much happening right now that I know that you're gonna be even more exciting things in the future

spk_0 Yeah, like when Chris buys me a Ferrari

spk_0 That's still a point. It's a point. You get your spot up

spk_0 It's gonna be a beautiful. He's been you've been sent it for a long time. I have to

spk_0 Really can't have you again now that's a big one. How often would you guys say you like communicate with your fans?

spk_0 I mean every single time we see them in real life

spk_0 What about every day online or something? I don't really go online. I need to be better at the on the discord

spk_0 You're the best at all. I mean people are in your discord

spk_0 290,000

spk_0 Yeah, you know we can rip packs for days. Yeah, we can rip packs for days holy shit. Yeah, yeah, I just sent a message like hello

spk_0 We should rip some packs on it. You know how many are on the good Charlotte discord 2,900

spk_0 We can help you. We can help you, but no, I don't know

spk_0 I'm just saying no, I'm just I'm just telling you like discord are powerful. That's not mean like we

spk_0 Powerful honestly a lot of people so we gave them an incentive to sign up for discord and we're probably like the only account

spk_0 That a lot of them follow we're also we're very strict on that we don't want we've been approached by companies that are like

spk_0 Here's a fan subscription service. It's 499 for the fans. We don't want them to pay to be a fan

spk_0 We also want companies to be like yeah, that's cool. Yeah, they're

spk_0 You buy your right there. Yeah, you shouldn't cost you I shouldn't have to pay 499 to be a fan

spk_0 I already am gonna buy your album. I'm gonna buy tickets to your show. Yeah, you would just mean it that one's exactly

spk_0 Yeah, so instead would rather incentivize you being a part of this community

spk_0 Which is what Chris has helped us with

spk_0 Really well, which is this xp base. Shelly Chris Shelly. Yeah, which is this xp base fan experience. Which is

spk_0 They earn you point points for going to locations and doing this going to the app store soon

spk_0 Yeah, I think if it is like you have an app coming out. Yeah

spk_0 Or the fans with the next two weeks very Pokemon coated feels like it's very Pokemon

spk_0 And your fans can

spk_0 Participate it's coded by very Pokemon. It looks really real here. We went in the back end

spk_0 I don't even look like Pokemon. Okay, but you guys are a very Pokemon-coded band

spk_0 Mitchell's a Pokemon-coded man

spk_0 As you can tell I hate the franchise. You hate Pokemon. That's why he loves Japan man and buy all these things out of spite

spk_0 Poke land Poke land Poke mania's Pokemon is coming out one piece land. I've tried to buy him

spk_0 Pokemon stuff and every time is like oh, thank you. I've got these

spk_0 He's like try to buy so much. I've done that by the way. I've done that before. Yeah

spk_0 He's like oh, thanks. I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, you have a hundred of you though

spk_0 Remember in Japan I went to this store in Japan and they had like these three different versions of like a Pikachu

spk_0 And they were all Japanese and I was like dude, I put that up. Yes, they you put it up

spk_0 You had you had two of them. I had two of them, but like

spk_0 There's no like doubles as good doubles with the North

spk_0 Then you can send them in for me. Can I say can start interrupt you guys? Can I say an observation?

spk_0 I really feel like

spk_0 You guys have the coolest modern business as a band that I've seen I agree in a long time

spk_0 Even just and I think I know why you guys make decisions based on what you think is

spk_0 One like cool and the right thing for your fans, but that you also fuck with it

spk_0 You can do it versus it's a good idea and we'll someone will do it. Yeah, that's different

spk_0 We don't want to get beat so you guys do things that you think are the right things for your fans

spk_0 I think that's what art is as well though. That's music. That's everything. That's like

spk_0 It's a good thing with Chris as well because Chris who is our brother. Yeah, he is a fan of what we do

spk_0 And I said in a lot of ways he's able to

spk_0 Communicate what he would want that's where the investment comes from as well. Yeah, he can look at it objectively as a fan

spk_0 Rather than just someone who wants to cash grab or yeah, like jumped on the wagon because he jumped on when we had nothing

spk_0 Yeah, hey, he was a fan. He likes what you're doing

spk_0 So that from the from from the beginning shows integrity and yeah an actual faith and care about like nurturing the brand

spk_0 Yeah, which is very important

spk_0 That's why the merch is so good. It's why the art is so good. It's why that's why he loves it

spk_0 You know, he's gonna go extra mile if you if you look at them if you go to a

spk_0 Chess Lenek on Apple or something and you look at the albums next to each other

spk_0 cohesive from like phases onwards. Yeah, the ones that he's worked at they

spk_0 They're all contiant to each other color wise or

spk_0 I don't know. It's the song kind of beautiful about the first one too. I think it's an nostalgia

spk_0 Kicked in but one of four we first like two years after they sounds like one. Yeah

spk_0 We went simple with it, but who do is how many they get well? We are remember we had we came up with one

spk_0 And then we couldn't we couldn't use the same flower because it was copyrighted so they drew us this row

spk_0 Yeah, they drew a flower for us

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spk_0 There's a lot that wall is prime for a sponsor. Oh, I got something I can put in that wall. I bet is it Pokemon?

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spk_0 Like anything

spk_0 Okay, what do you feel like has been the hardest thing over the last 10 years for chase Atlantic to overcome together as a band?

spk_0 Because we always do overcome stuff together. That's the hardest. I think we've overcome stuff that most people

spk_0 I think bands would have fallen yeah time and time again. One was not what was the question my brain is not working today

spk_0 What do you think the most challenging thing over the last 11 years as a band to overcome? Yeah, I think the hardest thing to overcome and it could be something together or it could be something personally

spk_0 I think it is growing together with without

spk_0 Falling apart. That's the hardest thing growing up because we there's only times where we could have fallen apart

spk_0 Yeah, and the fact that we didn't that was the hardest thing to get over

spk_0 Do you think that we were able to stick together with regardless of the circumstance?

spk_0 Do you think that starting as like kids right because you were kids this idea that started as kids and like what did you know but you knew something

spk_0 Yeah, and then as grown men the journey that you go on there like by the way like how many of my friends am I still friends with that?

spk_0 I was when I was 15 yeah

spk_0 Uh a couple maybe but like most of them know because I'm a different I was a different person back then

spk_0 It's tough to relate as well. Yeah, but you're you're also not expecting when you start making music together. They're not expecting that

spk_0 14 years later. You're still going to be in the same band and yeah because it's all very fleeting

spk_0 I've almost I think I'm at the point now in my life where I've known you for more for longer than I've been like well

spk_0 Been alive but longer than you've been like aware of what you did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah longer

spk_0 You've been a part of my life for more than 50% of my life

spk_0 Which is insane to think of but I have real history

spk_0 I think the toughest thing for me personally was us going from

spk_0 I think I've said this before but we I used to feel like the power ranges and we would all rock up in the same car

spk_0 And we'd like

spk_0 Mitchell would slide over the front of the car. I'd like tumble out of the back

spk_0 Clinton would slowly meander out of the front. Yeah, you lived together. We lived together

spk_0 We're in each other's pockets. It was like hey, what we would come to studio see every day

spk_0 We even if we didn't it was just like what time should we what time should we go to the studio today?

spk_0 What we had to go. Yeah, we'd go to the

spk_0 We made routine for us those we do everything we would did everything together

spk_0 We survived here together and then post COVID and life

spk_0 We're getting older you know at that point where I meant 25. We've got partners. It's like so

spk_0 Moving away from each other for me at the start was was hard right because things like then getting back in the studio

spk_0 Was a bit harder learning what that now. It's like a different

spk_0 I catch up every time because you haven't seen each other. Yeah, you know all the exact same pace

spk_0 You can't just jump straight in the music. Yeah, some people don't survive growing up

spk_0 Yeah, put myself and then you start out not having your friends by to check you you know what I mean?

spk_0 We literally grew up together and then the separation thing for me was quite hard to act right find the footage

spk_0 Footing I had times in Los Angeles where I was like I don't know

spk_0 Like siblings like yeah, well my brother was nine years older than me. So he was so I've been like your first

spk_0 And I just found that I had lots of times in Los Angeles where I was like I don't really know what I'm doing here

spk_0 Well, I can't do you and we kind of at the time we weren't we weren't in the studio as much

spk_0 Yeah, you go through moments of not being close

spk_0 Like like what you understood close to be yeah, yeah, which is painful and then now I feel like it's so good because

spk_0 Every time we see each other it is we've managed to find out missing bridge that we can all come back together and

spk_0 And talk about things that have been going on but also like just like pick up what we left off

spk_0 And it's exciting. I mean we we've always spoken about how in the early days when we were both in school

spk_0 Mitchel and I could go you know three months without a text to each other right and we'd see each other and it was like easy easy

spk_0 We never thought about that

spk_0 You do you had to me

spk_0 Doesn't even know besties. We're just seeing a few months and we've

spk_0 Always kind of still had that relationship, but when we're in the same city and you're living your own life

spk_0 There was moments early

spk_0 In 2023 when I was like I don't know

spk_0 What I'm doing in LA, but now I feel like we've figured it out again

spk_0 90% of people live in LA feel like feel like that. Yeah

spk_0 I

spk_0 And for a very very long time till I get yeah

spk_0 2024

spk_0 In 2025 I think we've really figured it out when we got back into the studio in blackwood last year February

spk_0 But that 2023 was a tough year of black. Yeah, and then you get the longer you wait to make music the most scared

spk_0 Do you get the most out of it?

spk_0 And then it's just like we didn't start then it would have been way harder

spk_0 I feel like the worst thing chase Atlantic

spk_0 Can do is not make music because there's something about making music

spk_0 That's as a part of how you guys understand being in a band. Oh, committing crimes right

spk_0 Yeah, that's yes, but what I'm saying is is that some bands they exist in cycles

spk_0 Oh now we're gonna make a record and then oh now we're gonna tour for three years and then we're gonna make a record

spk_0 Something about the creative process of chase Atlantic that I've noticed if you're not creating or being creative

spk_0 We're too long a period of time things can go sideways. Yeah, 100% because we're looking for something

spk_0 Elsewhere instead of music

spk_0 I see footage of you. I think I sent you this a while ago. It's somewhere on YouTube

spk_0 But it's you probably 13 14 and you've produced

spk_0 You're producing at school and it's like you as a kid. I sent this to you. I found I said it's I was like you would this

spk_0 Mitchell would be really proud of you now. Yeah, he would be less race

spk_0 He's true. Oh, that little fellow had no

spk_0 But that Mitchell the Mitchell that I saw on friends when I heard friends

spk_0 You know you were but you were so

spk_0 But that little guy had the I was really had the balls to sing the song and to beat like I

spk_0 'm just saying I see it with you. I see it with Clinton. The those little dudes

spk_0 Didn't know what the fuck they were stepping into yeah, but had the guts

spk_0 To do their own band make their own shit be themselves and they're why do people love those early songs so much

spk_0 I'll tell you why they're you guys have always had soul you've always had some some heart and

spk_0 One day you'll be my age and you'll look back on it a little differently

spk_0 I know you don't reject it, but I know it's not what you're excited

spk_0 But what I'm saying is those early songs why people love them so much is because even at a young age

spk_0 You guys knew who you were you wanted to be a band and you you were ambitious you wanted to write your own songs

spk_0 You wanted to do this they do a lot of confidence as well vision. It's false confidence

spk_0 But it's it's youthful ambition and want to succeed

spk_0 Yeah, it was like kind of foreshadowing the soldier

spk_0 And paradisie piece slap

spk_0 Surf refreshing

spk_0 I don't think you can see when they come on

spk_0 With me you don't play enough of them live and when I heard those I said

spk_0 This is what I said when I heard your band the first time

spk_0 And I went down the rabbit hole and by the way, it was only a handful of songs

spk_0 But I said this remind this to me. This is a young in excess

spk_0 This is like this is what in excess would have sounded like as teenage or starting like in my mind in 2016

spk_0 You know what I mean? And now I look at you as a full grown band and what why do I still kind of believe?

spk_0 I was right about that well because you're all musicians whether you show it off or not

spk_0 When you go see you live you see a band that's playing music which in oh in for the last decade

spk_0 bands have come back over the last few years

spk_0 But in the time you guys were making your brand of rock music and alternative and what you do

spk_0 um

spk_0 It was not cool. It was like pop was heavy

spk_0 EDM was heavy hip hop was heavy now bands have come back around and you guys are at the top

spk_0 Because it's at hybrids well, it's kind of the bridge between all the hip hop and rock you can't just jump

spk_0 Yeah, you chase it like like crap and then hip hop it's got

spk_0 We're like creating electronics

spk_0 But it's alternative as well

spk_0 And it's and if we zoom all the way out it's still a rock band. We control the trading right?

spk_0 Yeah, so yes

spk_0 So what I'm saying is is when you go see you live and you experience the live the live part of this band

spk_0 That's this cool. It's when you become a believer right yeah, you get evangelized because you see the show step

spk_0 That's what live music does. It's like it's like having a hook on the you know

spk_0 I'm official in the hook. Yeah, I mean and then the live show is just like getting the bot getting in the fucking right

spk_0 And so when I think of like I only say Australian great Australian bands because that's whether you like it or not

spk_0 Where you're from it's in your like roots mm-hmm like that music was around you

spk_0 Absolutely like when you walk down the street at six years old in the shops

spk_0 There was music around you that like when I think about like great and Australia has produced very

spk_0 great

spk_0 Rock bands and bands and some of the greatest bands of all time absolutely yeah, and I know your parents like

spk_0 So you guys come from music loving soulful families, right?

spk_0 So I know you were around

spk_0 Music your whole life

spk_0 And then you go off as a kid and you decide like fuck all that

spk_0 I'm gonna do my thing and you're making like what you think is your idea of cool

spk_0 Is like this trap or this electronic or this but what's been in you and what's been around you and what raised you

spk_0 Is there mm-hmm, and so it's gonna make its way out so when I hear those old songs I hear

spk_0 These kids who were raised on great music. I can hear it in them and there's soul. It's crazy because I was just talking

spk_0 But it's a Jordan about this morning in my grandpa bimba would put every single morning at like

spk_0 7 a.m. And this is one of my younger so we hated that and it was on weekends

spk_0 We go to say the fun

spk_0 Me music song like loud as something I would do. I'm like. I'm definitely gonna be that one. I'm old. Yeah

spk_0 Yeah, you're that guy like fuck all your it's my house and put in the music

spk_0 Yeah, what kind of music was it? Oh, it was just

spk_0 Mal think magic moments, but just like all stuff like that right

spk_0 And on the finals was all like scratchy and it was like the original version

spk_0 This the finals bit like this

spk_0 Microphone was like the one with metal ones is all the back. Yeah, the reverb was coming from the road. Yeah

spk_0 Big like no in big crush just

spk_0 Just crush audio was crushed the shit

spk_0 But the the musicality of your records and all your records is

spk_0 One that can it translates live you guys can stand on stage as a band and play it at any age too by the way

spk_0 And that's why I think the possibilities are endless with what this band can make

spk_0 Thank you because in your 30s you may go we want to make this kind of record

spk_0 And go excited for the you know what I mean? We have enough my into side experimenting right so

spk_0 So yeah, I think it's I think that's kind of the mark of true artist

spk_0 And I think that's why I've probably always been a fan is because when I've always heard is at the core of all your music is a song

spk_0 And also a good little kiss. Oh

spk_0 You say also cuz you're a good kiss. I mean me. I'm yummy. I mean. I'm a good looking. So

spk_0 You're you're good looking. You're good. You're good. You're good. You're good. You're good. You're good. You're good. Lead singer

spk_0 No, kisser and Christian if you

spk_0 Every time we get to that second first we're waiting for Christian like that's how you

spk_0 As a fan you know like but as a fan, you know like it

spk_0 When you show up, it's exciting like we all love. Yeah, thank you. He's the yang

spk_0 He's the end. Yeah, whichever there's a balance

spk_0 Bill

spk_0 It's a great experience as a fan. I heard someone describe it once and it was like you know

spk_0 I don't know what song it was but it was like Mitchell's like the chaotic and crazy now

spk_0 I was like the calming. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, blanket. It's like

spk_0 I'm communicating. I'm like trying to calm you down. Well, I think it's interesting. I think I'm stronger than you

spk_0 Yeah, you can definitely

spk_0 I think I'm gonna speeden everyone on arm wrestling. I think I'm gonna be the winner. I'm not

spk_0 I did. Oh

spk_0 Did you say you beaten me in an arm wrestle? Yes, I have you get out of here and try again

spk_0 You wish jellyfish

spk_0 No way I have beaten you. I'm waiting for the rechallenge for the day. You can beat me. You said I need to do more training

spk_0 I have been training. I haven't beat me. I have beat you look at all the cameras and take it back

spk_0 No, I've beaten you you beat me the last time the last time we are muscle. I had fallen out of my

spk_0 I think when you guys see the one-on-one it starts with that it starts with the arm wrestle and then winner gets us the first question

spk_0 The one thing I'll say about what we were just talking about is I do think Christian you sit

spk_0 in between

spk_0 Clinton and Mitchell in a way that balances out a really incredible relationship you and Clinton have

spk_0 If we're done

spk_0 It's I feel like it is would be really tough to be in a band with your brother because you just have that extra

spk_0 Element of growing up together

spk_0 Simply and then you can actually run the act on the emotions

spk_0 Because you're related. It's different. You know the way that brothers

spk_0 Communicate and I feel like I have become an adoptive brother

spk_0 But there you are still you know, there's a way that I speak to my brother that

spk_0 If somebody else was speaking to my brother like that I would have a problem with that absolutely

spk_0 And we've said this before as well like at the end of a tour

spk_0 I get to kind of take a step back

spk_0 From jacolaniq for a little bit even if it's a week or two weeks, right? You get time off

spk_0 You know, or even if I go home to my family, I'm going home to the family whereas

spk_0 Chase Atlantic and like the caves. It's never there's an you can't turn it off because it's your brother time off

spk_0 You're working with your brother, which is obviously you would know about yeah, yeah, I mean

spk_0 God you guys aren't all you hear about his

spk_0 Brothers and bands about how they

spk_0 Well, I know that me and bench had a very me and bench had a very rough time in our 20s

spk_0 And then in our 30s we started doing therapy

spk_0 And in 20s is when you start getting that like agree the kind of

spk_0 I deserve this you know, well you fight over things because you grow up and then you're both men

spk_0 And then you don't know how to relate to each other

spk_0 from yeah, and then you're relating to each other differently without being able to accept that you are

spk_0 And you can't express you and you can't express it and then you both don't always want

spk_0 There's some and then also you both have your own lives, you know, you like start to go and if there's a natural

spk_0 Separation that happens. It's like what happens with our parents right yeah like at some point in our life

spk_0 We have to break away from them and it's painful and everyone handles it differently some families fight some people

spk_0 But once

spk_0 You've separated and you've been able to become an adult you come back together and it's better. Yeah

spk_0 The same thing happens with siblings

spk_0 The same thing happens with sick siblings and it's a painful process

spk_0 But in our 20s it was rough like we would fight and we didn't know how to communicate and then

spk_0 We started going to therapy in our 30s and after a cup of few short years

spk_0 We started having like really healthy dialogues and a lot of that stuff just went away

spk_0 And then some of it was healed like some stuff we had to heal yeah

spk_0 You have to do the whole like take it home with you and work on it and say stuff that you wouldn't normally say

spk_0 Um, that's like a one way of working on things. I don't know if I could do that. No, what's that?

spk_0 Hey, oh honey, how are you doing? How's your day been? It's like I'm like I didn't

spk_0 To speak to you upset you in that kind of way well, I will say this

spk_0 You know, I mean like no, no, but like I'm not explaining it well enough. Okay, so it's learning new ways like you stuff you would normally say, you know

spk_0 But if the way that you're communicating is it seems almost I will say this mini

spk_0 You're a really smart guy. Thank you

spk_0 And so sometimes with smart people that are creative as well. It's a lot harder

spk_0 To get them on board

spk_0 When

spk_0 Look the therapist if you ever go to therapy the therapist has to be smarter than you

spk_0 Yeah, I know and and then that's even still

spk_0 Still going to be a challenge. Yeah, with me. I'm not too. I'm I'm similar to you in some ways

spk_0 I did find someone that helped me

spk_0 In the early stages of my therapy. I did have to do things like that. I wasn't

spk_0 I wasn't communicating the right way

spk_0 So I did have to start practicing

spk_0 It feels a little forced and weird

spk_0 It does at first and it's uncomfortable

spk_0 But then after a while it goes away because I don't need to practice anymore

spk_0 And somehow that idea gets fused into

spk_0 It kind of gets integrated in and the real version of it is something that's a little bit less like forced

spk_0 Yeah, but you do learn how to be a better listener or a better communicator or whatever

spk_0 With the conflicts, right? Like how to problem solve how to how to resolve conflict is like the point

spk_0 And so learning how to resolve conflict with my brother was a thing because we weren't taught as kids like my family was fucked

spk_0 It's you're also you're not taught how to

spk_0 Resolve conflict within a business to with a brother

spk_0 Our whole thing is learn the hard way. Yeah, that's all we've ever learned one way or the other right? Yeah

spk_0 But never learned the therapy for me is one thing

spk_0 How to man of many tools like two books. I also have a lot of love from my brother

spk_0 And so I wanted to we wanted to resolve it and we we we were frustrated and so I found in our 30s

spk_0 We actually started having

spk_0 The most success we've ever had in our life that the success of good charlotte

spk_0 Pales in in comparison to how grand the success we've had now with with things other things investments and yeah

spk_0 And just together. Yeah, you guys keep winning and like having artists like that you came to our show in Sydney

spk_0 And like that would be very bonding for you guys. I assume to be like

spk_0 Hey, when you go like you know, I mean like when you guys have one-on-one time you're like

spk_0 Man, how do we how do we cool that on huh? Yeah, well, I'll tell you it's very healing

spk_0 To be able to work with your brother over decades and find

spk_0 Your way that it feeling is well and yeah, and so we get excited together we dream together and it wasn't always easy

spk_0 It was we we that's why whenever if I see you admit if I see you and Clinton going at it

spk_0 I understand that I've been there. Yeah, and so it doesn't freak me out. I'm just like

spk_0 But I also know what I know about you both as people and so I if if I was worried if I'm ever worried

spk_0 I'll tell you but like I also I also see you both

spk_0 Evolving and like that's the track we're on

spk_0 But I also know what it means to be in your 20s and I know what it means to be in your

spk_0 You have to go to the experience and yeah, you have again know what it's like to have a brother. Yeah

spk_0 Like I think all of us you know Patrick's got a brother. Jesse's got a brother. We all you gotta fuck it at some point as well

spk_0 Yeah, of course you have to and you know brothers just they just brothers fight. They just fight

spk_0 It's just a thing, you know, this is the brother kind of rivalry. You still love each other to death

spk_0 We get elders brother thing. Yeah, because

spk_0 But there is a need for me but the biggest blessing in life is brothers. I agree

spk_0 I'd be anacus. Yeah

spk_0 What's your guys' favorite thing about Clinton?

spk_0 His tenaciousness is tenacity as a tenaciousness was on word. Can't believe you told me that was a word

spk_0 Tenacious tenaciousness. I didn't say that would you say that's one of the ingredients? I mean it's helped them in so many situations

spk_0 It's also backfire in so many situations. Yeah, I think I think he's got an obsessive nature doesn't he? I think both

spk_0 He's all he's crazy. I think they both are perfectionists, which is a really amazing trait to have but

spk_0 It can restrict it can rest. Yeah, but I I think right you could say it's part of the success. Yeah

spk_0 Yeah, well that again totally totally yeah, but also it could also be part of I think Clinton's pain

spk_0 I think Clinton's skateboard hot. I think he's I know that's a big

spk_0 Yeah, no, he's got he's got he's got a good. It's the same with you. I mean you guys both have really big hearts, you know, he's a lot of people

spk_0 gravitate towards Clinton and the friendship because

spk_0 He is so open. He's loving. He's sweet. He's he's almost too open. Yeah, he can be he's hard on his sleeve

spk_0 You know he's too much. It's almost unhealthy. Yeah, and unfortunately we have seen in times that people have taken advantage of how

spk_0 Genuine and trusting he is you know, some bag is him. He's with some longer sleeves on

spk_0 Yeah, he's but I think for people who are close to him and that's the best trait. Yeah, well, I think he's afraid to let people down. Yeah

spk_0 Yeah, I think he's terrified of letting people down. I found him to be

spk_0 One of the interesting experience I've had with you guys all in different ways, but collectively as well is I met you

spk_0 Were teenagers. I couldn't relate to you as a friend. I said though you serve a friend

spk_0 We were but I but there was a ton of stuff I couldn't relate to yeah

spk_0 And now as older guys where I found my friendships with you have blossomed

spk_0 Because what's that white wine and shrimp? Yeah, so I

spk_0 Yes, I can't believe we did that and then you guys being like what we're fully cool smoking weed and then not saying a word around the camp

spk_0 I'm like, hello. Yeah, that's what I'm saying though is like you guys aren't you guys are not judgmental friends

spk_0 Mm-hmm. You're very like I've never judged

spk_0 To and I would say this about Clinton so it's very sweet. What like we guys

spk_0 It's what I can tell you the friend is you know, that's what a friend is. This is what a friend should be yeah

spk_0 Is what you try to explain and and the way I feel about Clinton is sometimes I want to shake him and go bro

spk_0 You can't let me down just tell me how you feel

spk_0 That's why we we didn't become also yeah, because we were always checking each other whenever one of us

spk_0 If I'm so big for that boots. Yeah, except online like it goes out of pocket

spk_0 It goes back to the perfectionist thing with Clinton

spk_0 It just every you know, he's worked so hard to make sure he you know in a lot of ways

spk_0 He's been the skeleton and it kind of started with his whole idea and

spk_0 We've kind of been forming and getting to his level and stuff so there's definitely I can see what you're saying

spk_0 In that level, but you can't let us down, you know

spk_0 Can't let us astray. He's been he's a brother

spk_0 last question

spk_0 Why

spk_0 Why takes so much time and effort to release a bonus

spk_0 Because we can the lux because we care about the quality of our craft

spk_0 You know

spk_0 There was something I think

spk_0 Maybe you said a real bench, but it was like usually a deluxe is

spk_0 You know songs didn't quite make the album. Yeah, so any

spk_0 So so I'll say that again. So any fan that's listening

spk_0 I'm gonna give you a behind the scenes piece of information. We have thrown record labels put out the luxes

spk_0 To juice the orange one more time get one last squeeze so they pick up all the songs off the cutting floor

spk_0 And they repackage it and they put it out. I don't care what anyone says that's 85% yeah, I'll say that that's fair

spk_0 85% of the luxes and especially if it's your favorite artist and they're a big artist is if it's a

spk_0 Any big artist the labels usually taking songs that were submitted taking songs off the cutting room floor

spk_0 Repackage is eating it with a couple bonuses and then they put it back out and they get like one last squeeze of the release, right?

spk_0 Um, and it's accepted by artists. It's not frowned on fans are getting something

spk_0 They're getting old songs that weren't gonna be heard and like with us being produced is the odds of just like yeah whatever

spk_0 So my question

spk_0 So sharing my experience with the fans that are listening is when we said we were gonna do with the lux

spk_0 Uh in my mind

spk_0 It's not the most exciting thing in the world because that's what I know

spk_0 I know that most bands are just gonna pick up

spk_0 Uh, okay cool fans are gonna get songs they wouldn't have heard that's cool

spk_0 Always worth doing but not that exciting. We made them from scratch and the band after

spk_0 You're the only band. I know

spk_0 So this was a first for me. Yeah, or it it always is a first for you guys because you've done it before but you took

spk_0 Almost the time it takes to make a record

spk_0 To do the deluxe and I guess I'm asking why um well we suck as

spk_0 As you said and I've always kind of felt like this first you you have like the norms of what

spk_0 A band or what the industry does they're not wrong just because it's a norm

spk_0 Doesn't mean it's what we're gonna do. I felt the same with even contract stuff

spk_0 You know they're like this is what every band does it's like when we every band when not every band

spk_0 We we understand might be the norm and that's how they do it. That's not how we want to do it what we want to do

spk_0 Is still release good music? This is something for the for the fans right? It's not just a throw away so that we can get another cash grab

spk_0 Never too cheap out on them and in a sense even this next deluxe

spk_0 Has progressed like these the two extra songs that are coming out on the deluxe

spk_0 The evolution the bridge as well. It's creating the bridge to the next stuff

spk_0 The two songs that especially one of them we've never created oh the other one because yeah

spk_0 Two of them have turned into three songs in one and it's a kind of a style that we've never even touched on before

spk_0 He means

spk_0 As midi say it's it's the bridge into our next style so while we're already looking

spk_0 To do the next album and to make something else. This is our great

spk_0 All for you from lust and heaven to see five

spk_0 Yeah, I don't know how many people who self-produced written and like successfully released four albums and they're about to do five

spk_0 Thanks for coming back guys

spk_0 Okay, thank you so much having us in the pug car

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Mitchel Cave and Christian Anthony of Chase Atlantic

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