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Stop Mothering Your Partner
In this episode of 'Stop Mothering Your Partner,' we explore the dynamics of caretaking in relationships and how it can lead to an unhealthy mothering dynamic. The host shares a personal obs...
Stop Mothering Your Partner
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Daddy Gang, welcome back to another Sunday session. I am all cozy, even though in Los Angeles,
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currently just for context, it is about 93 degrees. I'm ready for fall, so I refuse to not
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pretend like it's Gilmore Girls' weather. But if you start to see a little bit of sweat,
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trickle down my face, just know I am in pain, but I'm in pain because I refuse to not lean
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into the aesthetic of fall. Because what the fuck? Sunday morning fat this cow, Lin, do do do do do do do do do
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every Sunday's for this day. That was pretty good, right? Okay, so I want to talk about something I
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witnessed the other day that I really couldn't stop thinking about. And so I was on this little
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weekend getaway with Matt. We were sitting by the pool. I was reading my book, eating some chicken
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fingers, having a little apparel spritz like I fucking deserve. And all of a sudden a couple sat
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down a few seats over next to Matt and I. They were probably in their late 20s, maybe early 30s. I
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don't know, I wasn't really paying too much attention them at first. But then within minutes of
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laying down the girl told her boyfriend, babe, you need to put on sunscreen. And he didn't do it.
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So she playfully kind of sat up and started rubbing it on for him. Now I hate putting sunscreen on people.
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I feel like that's a common thing. But you know, I was like, oh, maybe it's kind of cute. Like,
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I don't know if I would do that for Matt. No, I would. And I've done it for Matt. But he knows like
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if I have fucking fake nails on, don't even think about it because it's going to get in and around
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there. But you know what? I was like, all right, at first I was like, maybe it's kind of cute
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that she's doing that for him. But then he asked what their plan was for the night. And this is
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obviously a place where people are on vacation, right? Like this is not somewhere that you would be
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at this little like weekend resort because you live here. You're probably here for a vacation that
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you guys have planned, right? And she went on to remind him that first they're going to be going
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back around to shower at five o'clock in their room. Then they have a hotel happy hour that she
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scheduled. And then she made a dinner reservation at a nice place in town. And he was like, oh my gosh
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fuck babe. Like I didn't bring clothes for dinner. And literally without even missing a beat,
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she was like, yes, you did. I put your nice shirt in your suitcase and I brought a couple extra
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things in my bag for you. Now, was I fully eased dropping on this couple? Maybe. Yes, absolutely.
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But at that point, I was locked in. And also I feel like that's literally the point of going on
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vacation half the time is like people watching and getting to watch the way that other people interact.
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I was in fucking heaven. I was like, keep going. I'm downing my spritz. I'm hoping that they're going
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to get in a fight. I'm hoping they're going to be talking about family drama. Like I am, I'm
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elated that I have like a little bit of entertainment while I'm reading my smut book. Okay. And so
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I'm locked in. I start watching. I'm observing. And this man kind of like lays down for a poolside
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nap. And all of a sudden, she sat up, clearly worried about him. And she was like, have you eaten yet?
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Are you hungry? And he gave kind of like a little half nod a minute later. This motherfucker is snoring.
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And she's flagging down a waiter ordering him lunch while he's fully falling asleep.
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Now at this point, I kind of saw what I needed to see. And again, I could be completely
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misreading this specific situation, but it made me realize that most likely this girl has fully
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turned into this boy's mother. And I want to talk about this because maybe some of you are like,
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what do you mean, Alex? I've put fucking, you know, sunscreen on my boyfriend before. And I've
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ordered my boy food and I pack for my boy. Yeah, maybe. And maybe this is not a, you know,
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parenting your guy's situation. But most likely it is. And I feel this situation is becoming far
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too common for women. So I'm going to have a little check in because mostly women listen to this
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podcast. This is a safe space. No boys are here, hopefully. If so, well, we like you because you
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clearly are not a piece of shit, if you're listening to Colorado. Um, my question to you guys is like
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really think to yourself today. How many of you have had to remind your boyfriend multiple times
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to do a task that he should absolutely be handling on his own? How many times have you had to
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clean up after him, wrap a gift for him or chase him down to make an appointment that he needs?
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He needs not you. He needs. Okay. We're starting to ask the questions, right? You're like, oh,
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maybe, maybe, maybe, have you ever had to remind your boyfriend to just simply brush his teeth?
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That's a big one. That's a really big one. If that's an yes, or you're all like raising your hands,
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um, I'm going to ask you to take a seat. Maybe stop what you're doing. If you have to leave work,
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it's totally understandable. And it's honestly okay. Because we need to have a really honest
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conversation. Because this conversation is that you need to stop mothering your male partners.
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Let me set the scene. Okay. I'm going to break down what that actually means and what that entails.
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Mothering your partner is when you stop being this man's equal and you start being his caretaker.
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You are managing his responsibilities, his schedule, his emotions, his chores, all things he should
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be doing for himself as a grown adult. And instead of trusting that he's, you know, got things
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handled, you're reminding him, correcting him and basically teaching this man how to live life.
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And there is this mentality that you kind of start to have where you're like, okay, well,
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if I don't do it, it won't get done, right? Or maybe it won't get done literally at all.
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That's a problem. Okay. Like this girl, the pool, if she didn't pack this man's shirt,
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this grown 30 plus year old man's shirt for him and slacks and pants and shoes,
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then he wouldn't have the right clothes to where to at dinner. Even though he knew he was going on a
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weekend to get away with his partner, he wasn't going to have an outfit for dinner, right? And I
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think what I want to talk about today is like over time, a partnership like that can get really
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draining. I think we as women step in and fix situations for our partners because it just feels
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easier in the moment, right? To just be like, okay, I'm going to handle this so that we don't have
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any issues later. We're caretakers. The problem is, is when it doesn't just stop at one or two things,
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right? It's once you start stepping in and the list gets longer. And sometimes this type of
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behavior, it's not intentional at first, but there is a point where it starts to edge into
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manipulation once it becomes a pattern when someone purposefully does something poorly. So they never
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have to do it again. That is weaponized in confidence, that he gang and it is not okay.
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Let me give you an example. So your boyfriend and you want to go on a dinner date and he says to you,
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can you find a place like you're just so much better at finding great restaurants? It may seem
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innocent at first and maybe even a compliment because like you're the foodie and the relationship,
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you've got all the good spots totally in the beginning. It's like, oh, for sure, for sure.
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But in reality, if it continues to happen and you're like, hey, babe, like I come on, I'm super
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busy with work or hey, like can you just pick a place? Like I've picked it all the time and he never
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does it. Like let's keep it real. You both have access to the exact same Google, right? At some point,
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this is just him pushing the responsibilities onto you when he is equally capable of handling it.
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So weaponized in confidence is something that can continue to grow as the relationship goes on.
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Maybe he, I feel like I've seen it with people like maybe he screws up a grocery run. And now that
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becomes your responsibility going forward, right? Because you're just better at it. You're just
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better at it, babe. Can you just do it? You're just better at it. And maybe he does laundry one day
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and he shrinks something or he bleaches the entire colored section. And it's like, oh, I guess now
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this is your job forever, right? And rather than to trust him to handle something because you know
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there's a good chance that he's going to fuck it up, you just do it yourself. And you just keep
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doing it yourself and you keep doing it yourself. And now I kind of want to pause here for a second
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because I'm not saying that every couple has to split everything down the middle of times. That's
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not realistic. That's not what I'm saying. I get it. If actually one of you is grocery shopping
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more or one of you is do whatever. It's like relationships naturally develop a division of labor.
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And that is totally fine. That's normal. That's healthy. In my marriage, for example, when it comes
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to chores, Matt usually does most of the dishes. He actually weirdly likes doing the dishes. And I
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actually, you, you can't pay me to do dishes. Even when I was in college, my friends knew I hated
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the dishes. So I would be doing the trash or whatever it be like I never have been a dishes girl.
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I will never be a dishes girl. That is not weaponizing competence. That is just I don't like to do
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something. But guess what? I'm going to also pull my weight then in a different category, right? Matt
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does the dishes and he takes out the trash. And then I'm the one who usually does the grocery shopping
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and I make sure we're stocked with all of our like household supplies. And these responsibilities,
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they're obviously allowed to ebb and flow, right? Like if one of us is slammed with work and
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maybe we're going through something or one of us is more stress than the other, the other than
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naturally takes on a bit more, right? That's what a partnership is. If you're in a healthy
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relationship, the division of labor feels fair and neither person feels like they're drowning and
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neither person feels like they're getting resentful, right? But if you're in a mothering relationship,
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you're taking on way, way more of the load. You're constantly doing things for him that he could
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and should be doing for himself. And he's letting you do it instead. I also think something I was
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thinking about when I was prepping for this is like it's no secret that our society praises men
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for doing the bare minimum men doing the bare minimum. It is like sweetie. You could be the
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president of the United States babe. Oh, oh, oh, there he goes. He's taking out the trash. Like you
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you see a guy change one fucking diaper or take a kid and a stroller on a walk and it is like
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oh my god, you're so lucky. You have such an amazing partner. He's such an amazing dad. Meanwhile,
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we just expect women to do fucking everything without any acknowledgement, right? There is an
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insane double standard that we are all all all very aware of. Whereas women were told to back off,
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you know, let the man take charge. But then when the guy drops the ball, guess who's expected to fix
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everything. And if we don't immediately do it, it's our fault. It's never a man's fault. It's always
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a woman's fault. I love having a vagina. So the point is it's like once you've fallen into this
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pattern of mothering your partner, it can really start to impact your relationship. Maybe you both
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start to feel resentful towards each other. You may be like, wait, how is he fucking resentful of me?
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I'm literally the one doing all of it. You're overwhelmed and you blame him and he feels like you're
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constantly nagging and pressuring him. But over time, having to mother someone, I want to make sure
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that you guys keep this in mind. It can easily become the biggest turn off. You're also hurting
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yourself in your relationship by enabling this behavior because think of that. Is there anything
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less sexy than having a parental dynamic with your partner? Who in the actual fuck would want to
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rip a guy's clothes off when you know that you're going to be stuck folding them later? You're going
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to have to do the laundry of those clothes that you just ripped off. And he's going to lay in bed.
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He's going to play his video games and you're doing the household chores. Like, what? And I think
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this dynamic, it goes beyond just physical chores. I know I'm focusing on that just like, you know,
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tasks and responsibilities. Those are the easy ones. But there is also an element of emotional
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labor that comes from being the parent of a relationship. You're the one who has to start the hard
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conversations. You're the one who has to guide you both through difficult moments. Maybe it's with
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family or friends or whatever. It's constantly like, what do we do, Jenna? Jenna, what do we do? And
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it's like, Rick, let's start with put down your fucking Xbox. And let's have a mature conversation.
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It's always on you. You're the one who has to pick things up when he decides it's too much. And he
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shuts down. And that, if there's women listening to this and this is hitting home, listen to me. That
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can start to become extremely lonely. You feel like you're not in this together because you're
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taking literally everything on alone. And you don't have anyone to lean on. The biggest issue is
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that you end up honestly settling for a less than equal partner. And you end up feeling drained
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and burnt out and undervalued. But then you just get into this rhythm as we do as human beings.
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And you just get really used to this pattern. And then you kind of almost forget it's happening.
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And then it becomes normal to you. But please, please, please hear me when I say as life gets more
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serious, you get married. You are trying to buy a house. You have kids not having a partner. You can
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count on becomes more than exhausting. It becomes a burden. It actually eats away at your mental health.
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And so if you're sitting here realizing, holy shit, I think, I think this is my relationship. I think
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I am parenting my partner. I'm mothering this man. Don't panic. I'm like, good luck. And good
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by no, don't worry. Don't panic. I'm your father. And we're going to talk about it. So let's talk
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about what we can do, right? The first step is just noticing it. You got to catch yourself in those
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little moments when you're sliding into mom mode. Maybe you are cleaning up his side of the bathroom
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sink and you realize, wait, no, this is his mess. And this is his problem. Think about these mother
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fuckers, you guys, they literally wake up and they go to bed. And in their head, they're just like,
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God, the house looks so clean. Yeah, I wonder why it's because of you, Bernadette. But like has
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fucking Robbie ever cleaned your side. And again, if that's part of your ebb and flow, we're like,
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you do the bathrooms and he does the fucking garage maintenance fair. But I'm, but we're not talking
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about that. We're talking about when you're literally taking on everything and he's literally
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deep and fortnight. He doesn't even know how everything gets cleaned. He doesn't know how he gets
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food in his stomach. He doesn't know how everything happens, but it just happens. Okay, eventually,
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you need to start noticing this pattern and you need to think, wait, no, this is his problem.
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Or you're maybe on the third reminder, right, about his dentist appointment. Stop yourself
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because it's not your responsibility. If that fucking jackass gets a cavity, okay, you need to be
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like, you know what, it's okay if he misses that dentist appointment, right? Simply just becoming
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aware of what you're doing in the moment. You're like, oh, I'm about to do, nope, stop, stop, stop,
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he's a grown fucking adult. Because here's the thing, he somehow lived without you, right? Before you,
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somehow he got around, let him figure it out again, right? So first step is noticing it. What you're
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doing in the moment, that's huge. That's literally half the battle. You can't change a pattern if
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you don't even recognize your in it, right? Once you start noticing it, though, I think the next step
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is to actually communicate with your partner, which is somehow the hardest part of it all, right?
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Like when you get into a pattern with your partner, there is understandably, and I acknowledge this,
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this is not a problem I have with math, but we obviously have other problems. And when you fall
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into a pattern with someone, even if it's not romantic, it's so hard to break patterns, right?
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So communicating is usually the only way through something. But you don't need to come in guns blazing,
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blaming him, calling him a child. That is just going to make him more defensive. And the conversation
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is going to go nowhere and it's going to cause a fight. So we're not going to do that. We never do that.
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Instead, you could literally say something like, I have noticed that I am taking on a lot,
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and it's really starting to overwhelm me, Robbie. I need some help. You can be direct,
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and I also think you should spell out exactly what needs change, right? You could be like, I need help
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when it comes to the nightly chores. Like, what do you think that you could help with to kind of help
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take some things off my plate? Or literally, you could even say, I'm completely overwhelmed,
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planning our vacation, right? Can we divide up the rest of the things that need to be booked?
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I'm really swamped and I really need your help on these things. Like, I guess my biggest part of
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the advice when it comes to the communication is you need to give clear examples of where you need
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him to step up. So there is no confusion. That should be the last time you mother him. Hi,
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you little fucking dumbass. I'm going to spell this out for you right now. I need you to get your
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fucking ass up off the couch and help me, okay? But you're not going to say it like that. So
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communicating, being really, really direct in what you need and then Daddy Gang, you have to step
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back and actually stop doing the tasks for him. If he forgets to RSVP for that friend's birthday,
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that's on him. If he leaves for work without his computer charger, yeah, he can drive back and
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get it himself. Like, men are never going to let you stop mothering them on their own. They love
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this shit. Oh, it's crazy. It's fucking cozy. Oh, she's mothering me. She's doing everything for me.
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Damn, I got the best fucking life ever. Why don't you throw it a foot massage while you're out of it?
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Like, this guy has it made and you're just turning into the fucking grinch in the corner and you're
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how did this dynamic get created you at some point you needed to take a take accountability. This is
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literally happening because you why would he stop it? He's literally living at the reds. He's
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living at the red sea. And you're just like, God damn it. The only way that they will learn is when
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you stop cushioning the fall and they have to fall on their fucking face and own the consequences
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of them being a dumbass and being irresponsible. If you can't figure his shit out,
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that's your clarity that this dynamic is never going to change. Right? Like, when the consequences
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of his incompetence start to negatively affect your life, then he is probably not a true partner to
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you. Doesn't mean you're not madly in love with him. Doesn't mean the sex is in great. He's not
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a partner, right? You don't need to stay in a relationship with a guy who is a never ending fixer
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upper trust me. I've been there. It never works. There are guys out there who actually do have
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their shit together. I know that sounds maybe the most crazy thing I've ever said on colored
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adi. Wait, men actually, they're shit together. Some, some. Okay. And I do actually think that this
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is something you can start to recognize early on and start to kind of navigate in the early
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on of the dating phase, right? Like, does he remember little details about you? Does he handle
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setting up the next date ever? Is his apartment clean? What about his car? Does he show up on time?
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Does he cook meals for himself? Like real meals? Not a hot pocket, okay? Does he have a calendar?
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That's probably good when you're in your 30s, you know, to have a calendar. Does he know what his
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credit score is? Do you know what your credit score is? Those little things, you can start to pick
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up on if you can see, oh, yeah, he's a full functioning adult. Or is he waiting for someone else to
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come run his life for him? Once you're in a relationship with a guy who can really take care of
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himself, everything just gets so much easier. You guys, I remember when I met Matt, I was like,
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what's going on? No, what's going on? You've got your house, you've got a dog, you have a
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calendar, you communicate with your family, you remember people's birthdays, you send gifts when
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people have babies, you are on time to things, you're communicating when you're not going to be on
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time to think like, what? What? Bare minimum, it's the bare minimum we expect from men. When you've
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got a little weeny, we just expect you to breathe and we clap. Why? Literally, meanwhile, women,
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it's like backflip upside down, summer salt, do the flip and we're like, nah, you're still,
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you're still not perfect. Guys, literally, we need to start holding men to more accountability
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and to hire fucking standards because you actually deserve a true partner. You're showing up as a
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partner, right? But in a relationship, the honest truth is you're supposed to be good on your own.
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You're supposed to still be an individual. You can let your partner make mistakes and be there
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to support them, but you should also trust that they, to a certain extent, can handle their life.
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You're there to be supportive. You're there for the hard times. You're there for the good times.
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But if you left tomorrow, like they're, they're going to be fine, right? There is nothing more
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attractive than knowing the person that you are with can handle their own shit and still show up
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for you. What a concept, right? I remember, something Matt said to me in the early days when we were
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getting close to engagement was, and I will never forget when he said it, he was like, I think
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how I knew and know that I want to spend the rest of my life with you is
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God forbid something ever happens to me. God forbid when we have kids and something happens to me.
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I know without a doubt that our kids will be more than perfectly fine with you as their mother.
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I trust you. I respect you. I know you will be a partner that I can rely on even if I'm not
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around. And I was like, knock on every piece of wood in this fucking room. Don't ever say that,
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but it was true. And I felt the same about Matt. I was like, I trust you with my life. When we do
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have kids, I know you'll still be able to show up for me, but God forbid. I know I can trust that man.
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And can you say the same or are you still wiping his fucking asshole? Right? So
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let me just tell you, yeah, that's another point. I just realized if you're still wiping his
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asshole, literally or figuratively, when you have kids, add him, you've one kid, no, you have two
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because he's another fucking kid. Like you, you literally will just take on more mothering, right?
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And I think another sign to look for Daddy Gang in the early stages is like, what is his relationship
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with his mother? Because that'll tell you God damn lot. If his mother mothers him and you have
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somehow gotten into the mothering role, this is just a mama's boy through and through and this is
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someone that probably is going to really have a hard time changing. So couples therapy therapy,
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that's the kind of shit because this is deep rooted since day one. If he doesn't have that
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relationship with his mom or anyone in his life, then like, yeah, you've just kind of put yourself
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into the situation and you have, you have the ability to change the pattern, but it's going to be
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a lot of work. So the point of this little intro here is let's stop mothering these little bitch boys,
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okay? It's time to go find men who actually put on their own sunscreen, can pack their own damn
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suitcases and can actually be a grown ass adult and show up in a relationship before you and handle
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their own fucking shit. So Daddy Gang, that's it from my little Ted Talk before we get into questions
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of the week. If you want me to talk about any of this more or have any other questions about this
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topic, I am happy to answer them. But for now, we're going to take a little trip to France because I
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want to do a little thing called questions of mama fucking week.
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Okay, I tried so hard to lean into my fall aesthetic and I'm sweating. Okay, I think literally
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my vagina is sweating. So we're going to take off this wool blanket. Where do I put this? I'll
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just put it right here in the spine. Okay, let's answer some questions because you guys need some help.
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Question one. Hi, Daddy. I just listened to your engagement episode and wanted to write in to you
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about a specific situation. I have been with my boyfriend for seven years. We bought a house together,
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got a dog and we've talked about marriage a bit, but I still am waiting on a ring. I don't want to
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be the where is the ring girlfriend, but I am 28. Most of my friends are already married with kids
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and I feel behind. He always says weddings are expensive, but of course they are. Our eight-year
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anniversary is coming up and he does, and if he does not propose by then, I will be crushed. How do
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I handle this without becoming the nagging girlfriend? Okay, so my first note is like totally fair,
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right? Totally fair that you're like, okay, this man clearly doesn't have commit
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issues. He bought a house with me. We got a dog together. These are things that are showing that
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he is in this relationship, but eight years of no ring. Listen, I'm not here to put my judgment.
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I'm saying what would work for me is not that. I agree. Eight years is pretty long to go without
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any type of like, are we doing this for life or what are we doing here? I do want to say, though,
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it seems like you want this, but I always am adverse to the concept of my friends are doing it.
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I'm feeling behind. If it's just because your friends, you always have to check in with yourself
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because don't do something just because other people around. You are doing it, but if this is your
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eight year anniversary and you're almost 28, this means that you've been together since you were 20.
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And I feel like when you start a relationship at that young of an age and you say together,
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I do kind of see maybe how you could date for longer because you're like, we're in college,
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then we're getting out of college, or if you didn't go to college, you're in kind of like this
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after high school, you meet this person and then you're figuring out your careers. You're in this
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finding yourselves and your careers in your life when you're in your early 20s, right?
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And so the thought of marriage maybe not is at the forefront, but now I think you guys have
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probably gotten into a situation where it has been kind of put on the back burner and you need
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to bring this up. It's so funny how like everything comes down to communication and I wish I didn't
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have to say that for every single fucking answer, but that's literally it. Like you need to talk to him.
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And I think instead of feeling weird and like, Ike and being like, okay, I'm gonna,
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I'm gonna, I'm gonna drop some hints and I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna look at some rings and
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leave my phone out while he's like peeking and I'm kind of showing him what ring I want. Babe,
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just talked to him. This is your partner of eight years. You trust him. He loves you. You love him.
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I think you need to say, hey, I wanted to have a check in because I know we're coming up on our
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eight year anniversary. I love you so much. I know that a big conversation when we did have a
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conversation about marriage was the stress of a wedding is expensive. And I want to have a check
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in of like one where you're at. Just take away wedding and all the expensive stuff. Where are you
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at with marriage? Are we still on track? And if he's like, yes, oh, I would marry you tomorrow,
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then be like, got it. So why don't we sit down and talk about our finances? It is so often,
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it's like you think it's gonna be so unsexy to talk about your finances. It is the most important
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fucking thing to talk about one of the most important things to talk about before your next step.
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Right. Before that next step that you take with this person who you're going to, I'm assuming,
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wait, but you bought a house together. I'm assuming you have a kind of a gauge on finances. So if
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finances are tight, you then need to make a decision and be a supportive partner to be like, I don't
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need this lavish wedding or we can wait and we could have a little ceremony. And then one day when
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we feel a little bit more like we're in a good financial place that we feel about, then we can have
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a wedding. So I think if you need to address the finances for him, and if it immediately all of his
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worries go away because you address the finances and you're like, I would help pitch in further
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way, the ring, or I am down for you to put more of the money towards the ring. And then if we want to
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wait for a wedding, whatever it be, you need to compromise with your partner because it's all
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probably feeling building up on him, him, him, him to we got to have the wedding, we got to have
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the ring. I literally am so stressed. I can't even think about this. If you alleviate for that for him,
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would that make you happy, right? Would you be okay not having maybe some of the things that come with
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wedding and engagement in order to just get engaged is kind of a personal answer for me. I would be
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okay with it, but who knows, you may be someone that's like dreamt of this really specific ring. And
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you don't want to compromise on that, but you need to talk to your partner about it. How much money
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do you guys have in your bank account? Have you joined bank accounts yet? I'm assuming no, since you're
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not married, what does it look like? How much do you have? How much does he have? You got to talk
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about this shit. It's like hard because I think a lot of times people are like, oh my god,
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weddings and all this stuff is supposed to be so sexy and it is. But what the conversations that
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lead up to engagement and wedding a lot of times aren't so sexy. Hi, babe, what's your credit score?
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Hi, babe, what is your 401k look like? Hi, babe, do you have like investments? What's your
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bank account? How much money do you make? What is your what is your yearly take home? What is your
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annual all the stuff? You need to know. I'm sorry though, that's stressful, but eight years you
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shouldn't have to keep waiting. You should know. Okay, next question.
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Hi, daddy. I have been with my boyfriend for about a year. I have given him head countless times.
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He has gone down on me less than five times. It's bothering me that the reciprocation is not
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even close to equal. I don't want to have to ask him to do it though because then I'll be thinking
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he's only doing it because I asked him to. I don't think I'll enjoy it if it feels forced, but how do
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I go about getting a little action for myself? Dude, that is truly one of the worst feelings in the
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world when you are like, I want to bring something sexual up to my partner. Kind of like a note I have
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for our sex life. And meanwhile, it's going to be so awkward if I ask him for something because
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in your head you're like, oh my god, then he's going to be going down on me and I'm trying to relax
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because as we all know, when you're getting fucking eat now, you need to focus, focus, focus. If
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anything, put a fucking pillow over your head. You have to close your eyes. You have to get in the
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zone. You have to focus, focus, focus. Oh, this is starting to feel good. Ooh, ooh, ooh. And if all
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of a sudden you open your eyes because you're like, oh my god, he's only doing this because I literally
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told him that I fucking needed this shit. And he's not even enjoying himself. And oh my god,
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is he look at my labia and he does he not like it down there and he does not like the taste and he
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does not like you're going to start spiraling. I totally empathize with that concept. So what I
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think you need to do is reframe when you're asking a partner something sexually. I think you could
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go to him and be like, babe, I love our sex and I love our sex life and something that I was
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thinking about the other day. I don't know why it kind of came up, but I was like, I remember,
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like I know it wasn't recent, but I remember one of the last times that you ate me out. I
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have never really like, um, liked it that much before with a different partner. Maybe don't
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bring up the different partners. That's the toxic still in me. It's still in there guys. She's still
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fucking down there. I still want to like, but you know what I mean? I think you can bring it up. Like
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I had such a good time. Like I, whether, I mean, tell him if you orgasm or not from it and say I
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would love if we could incorporate that a little bit more because like I love obviously giving you
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head and I would love if like you could go down on me a little bit more because you're so good at
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it. Compliment fucking sandwich. You know what I mean? I get it's awkward. I get it's not comfortable,
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but the point is is like you need to tell him, but you can't do it in a way that's like, I always give
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you head and you know they're fucking me out. So what the fuck bitch? Because then he's going to be like,
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oh, I didn't know we were like counting. Um, who does what? And I just think, you know, guys are
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just so fucking insecure. Like you got to just go about it. Like I'm literally obsessed with when
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you eat me out and I realize like we always just kind of like go straight to fucking and I want more
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for play. Like I need you to eat me out. I've been thinking about it. I've been thinking about it at
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work. I've been thinking about it when I'm in the shower. I need you. And then he'll be like, okay,
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and then I'll go town town. And if he doesn't, then you have a problem because well then he's never
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going to get his fucking dick sucked. You know, if you can't have any fun, neither can he nor Shuddy.
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Okay, next Alex, I need advice. My strict religious parents do not approve of my boyfriend.
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They think he is the reason I have gone astray with sex drinking and changing up my look. But the
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truth is I have already been in the process of trying new things before I even met him. He treats
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me while respects me and shares my values. The problem is my parents see him as the enemy
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and refuse to see the real him. How do I stay with him without completely blowing up my relationship
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with my family? Damn. I mean, it's so hard when you start to change and your parents are like,
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wait, wait, wait, wait, where's our little girl? Like come back here. I think your parents are
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clearly grappling with the fact that you are forging your own path and you're becoming an individual
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and you're doing things for yourself and you're not conforming to what they wanted for you
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and have wanted for you and have kind of shown you the way when you were living in their household
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and now that you're an adult, they're kind of like, we excuse you. Come back here, come back here
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and you're like, I actually like it better over here. I think that's a really unfortunately
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relatable thing for a lot of people when you move out of your childhood home or you stop living
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with your parents. It's kind of like you just naturally see the world differently as you should.
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You start to become someone that is an individual and you're thinking for yourself and you're
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experiencing the world and that's so healthy. I think something that you can do is have a conversation
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with your parents where you kind of explain to them why you're making these changes, right? Like,
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I think sometimes the problem when we are growing up is we look at our parents as the enemy,
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sometimes as you should, but a lot of times we think they're judging, they're judging,
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they're judging and really the judgment and the comments. Sometimes I'm not saying all the time
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because your parents could be bigger dicks, but sometimes it's really because they're just like
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trying to understand because they don't feel a part of your life anymore. Your parents feel like
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I don't even know her anymore and she died her hair and she's doing this. We don't even know our
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baby girl anymore and you have to have a little bit of empathy in that capacity to just meet them
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where you want to be met and be like, guys, I want to have an open conversation. I realize there's
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been so much changing in my life and I understand it's different than how you guys raised me and I love
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so many things about you guys and my childhood, but as I have continued to grow into an individual,
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there's a lot of things that I love for myself that I know are different than what you guys love and
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I want you guys to accept me for who I am. It doesn't mean I don't love you any less, but
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I'm also open if you want to ask questions of like who I am because can I be honest, it has nothing
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to do with Gerard or whoever your boyfriend is. You're like, it has nothing to do with Gerard,
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it has everything to do with me. It's a little bit of a dig, but I think you need to say this because
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they need to have more respect for you. I think you need to say something along the lines of like,
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I hope you guys know me well enough to know that I am an independent thinker. I'm an individual.
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I know who I am and I'm not going to change for a guy. All these changes are because I've wanted
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them. I have autonomy over my own life. I have autonomy over my own decisions. Yes, he's one of the
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decisions I'm making, but it's at my own delitio. I'm doing it. He is not like, he's not forcing me to
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do anything you guys. You raised me in the capacity that like, I do, I am able to make my own decisions
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and how amazing that I have a vision for who I want to become and what I like and what I don't like
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and I think if your parents can't meet you there and again, be slightly open to them being like,
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but what about what what about and you can try to ease in, but I do think at some point you
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just have to be like, I get this is going to be difficult in I'm changing from who I was when
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I was younger, but I want to have open communication, but I also need a lack of judgment moving forward.
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And hopefully they can meet you there. It's so hard though when you become an adult and you become
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an adult emphasis and then your parents are also adults and you're all like, oh my god, and it's
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like the spider man thing, we're like, when did this happen? We're like, you're an adult, now I'm an
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adult and now you have to treat me like an adult, but you're still treating me like a kid and like,
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why are you treating me like a kid? Like, I'm allowed to die my hair without fucking calling mommy.
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And I think parents have a really hard time with that sometimes and it's losing the control
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that really, really is disorienting for them and now it's being projected onto you, but it's not
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really your problem. So I think one loving conversation you can ease in maybe, you know,
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when you go to family dinners with them, try to include them in the conversations and give more
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context of why you're doing certain things, but there's only so much you can do with parents at
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that age. They're gonna kind of have to get up to speed and keep up. It's fucking hard.
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Oh my god, another relationship of eight years. Here we go. Okay, hi daddy. My boyfriend and I have
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been together for eight years. We recently finished school and we started and we're starting our
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careers. I'm in no rush to get married or have kids. As I feel like my life is just beginning,
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my boyfriend has a daughter and she is 10. He's a great dad and his days consist of sports and
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school activities, but lately it feels like we are on two completely different phases. He doesn't
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plan anything unless it has to do with his daughter. So most of our time together is on his terms.
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We have disagreements due to me not wanting to be a parent yet and I constantly feel like I'm
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making sacrifices for this relationship. The problem has snowballed to the point where he thinks
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I hate his daughter. Oh god, but in reality, I love her help. I am confused on how I should continue
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this relationship or should I be with someone in the same phase of life as me. Okay, I mean,
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I just want to put it out there that like I have never dated someone who has a child. So I'm
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just speaking from what I think I would do and give advice in this situation, but I do want to
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just clarify, like I don't have experience with this. The first thing I would just say to you is
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which I think you kind of have this answer, but you need to kind of dig a little deeper before
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you make your full, full decision is, are you ready to be a stepmom? Because this is one of, if not
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the most important part of this person's life and his daughter is, yeah, his daughter is his
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priority. And at that age, there's sports and there's, you know, they'll start to have crushes
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and there's school dances and there's activities and there's all the things and that is a very
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all-consuming time, I think, to have a child and you have to decide if you're ready to
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integrate that part into your life and a capacity that also is somewhat of a priority because
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the problem is this. I think you can meet people at different life stages and fall in love and have
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a successful relationship, but if you are kind of like adverse to a life stage that they're at and
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it's actually kind of really what you don't want, you really don't want kids right now, you want
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to be selfish, you want to go for your career, all these things, that is actually conflicting
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with what he is trying to do. And so I think resentment unfortunately is potentially going to build
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on both ends. He wants, he's even getting the point where he thinks you hate his daughter, you're like,
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I actually love this young girl, but she's not my kid and I feel still like a kid. I still have
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things I want to do. I'm not ready to be there. My worry for you is that it will get nasty in a way
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that you'll start to feel kind of heavy and bad about yourself because somehow this is becoming
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about you hating this young girl who you love, but you're like, I'm just not ready to be a mom.
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Like that's obviously it's not my kid. I love her, but like I didn't choose to have a child yet,
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so I'm not there, right? And he's like, but I am there and I'm a father and I take this very
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seriously. And so I think that you have to be honest with yourself that I personally believe,
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and again, you guys can tell me if I'm wrong, I believe you can't, you can't just be fully in
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this person's life expecting to be his priority when one of his biggest priorities is also not one
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of your priorities because then that's going to be like, we have to go on date nights and her not
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be involved, but what if she's sick? What if he needs to stay home with her? What if at the last
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minute, he needs to be the person that's having the after-socker practice house party? You know what I
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mean? Like there's so much that is going to dictate his life through having a child whom he loves
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and he's loving that part of his life that unfortunately, I think this is pulling you both in two
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different directions. I think at the end of the day, do some soul searching. It feels like even what
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you wrote here, you kind of have your answer. And then I think you need to have an honest conversation
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with him about like also just have some closure for yourself of like, I really love you. I love your
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daughter. I'm not ready for that next phase of life. I feel like I'm at a different place in my
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life where I'm not ready for the soccer practice and the you know, kids functions and I'm just not
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there. And I also want you to know I don't blame you for being there. That's your life that's your
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reality and I'm just not there yet. And I don't want to pull you away from a huge part in your life.
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And I also don't want to get to the point where I resent you for feeling like I'm having to
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develop this part of my life that I don't want and I'm not ready for. And maybe you can just,
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you know, take a break, go on pause or who knows? Maybe one day you'll be ready and you'll go
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back to each other. But right now, I think the bottom line is sometimes when you're in such
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different lifeplaces, you love isn't enough. And you can't keep trying to force it because you're
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going to start feeling like just pure shit about yourself and you're going to either get resentful
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or you're going to start compromising to the capacity that you lose yourself and you lose your dreams
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and you lose your wants and hopes and all the things because you're going to live someone else's
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happiness and their dreams and their wants. And that is not healthy.
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Okay, next. My boyfriend is having issues with his appearance and gaining weight.
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I've been trying to support him, but when I do, he makes up excuses. For example, I tell him we can
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go for a run or a workout and he says he's too tired or we'll do it tomorrow. I try to give him
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space, but if I don't mention a workout, he ends up not doing anything at all. He also eats really,
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really bad unless I'm there to cook us a healthy meal. I don't know what to do. Is it even my
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place to help? Is this a deal breaker? Okay, my first note for you, which we can get to him because I
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have empathy obviously in all the things that come to like health and exercise and people being
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at their own pace and struggling. But for you, who is the partner in this dynamic, my advice is like
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it kind of goes back to the beginning of this episode of Stop Mothering Your Partner. You're in a
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situation where you're trying so fucking hard to just get this guy to take care of himself and
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get healthy. And you are like, if I don't do it, he's not going to do it. So I'm trying to get him
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up. And I think it's you clearly grasping on to the relationship for dear life being like,
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I can't watch this anymore. I can't watch you self-destruct. I can't watch you be unhealthy.
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I'm also it's not as attractive now because you can't take care of yourself. And I'm starting to
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feel like, what are we doing? We're on two different paths. I want to be healthy. And I want to do all
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these things. And you're just here. And if I don't help you, then it just stays there. That's a lot
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to put on yourself. If someone doesn't have the internal motivation to change and to better
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themself, you're not going to be able to do it. And if you do, they're going to resent you.
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They're going to look at you like they're your their mother. And you're the minute you pull away.
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And like, okay, they're going to do on their own. It's just going to fall back. It's like, you've
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got to let him figure it out for himself. And I get it. I so get it. You're trying to be supportive.
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And you think that, you know, doing it with him or trying to get him, it's going to make it
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better. But I'm sure he's also like, I sometimes I'm happy when she goes out for a girlfriend or
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so I don't have to hear her nagging me to get off the couch. Like, I'm so exhausted of her trying
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to force me to do something that he clearly is either really, really, really struggling with
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or doesn't want to do. I think something you could have a conversation about number one is
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sometimes a lot of this has to do with mental health, right? I think there's a lot of times where
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people can get into these really big slums. I'm not saying he's depressed, but, you know, having
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a conversation of checking in one just mental health wise, like, how are you doing? Because I'm
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assuming he's not feeling great about himself, right? He's aware the partner he's in love with
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is nagging him every day and sorry, I'm saying nagging, but it's probably it sounds like nagging
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to him, but it sounds like trying to be positive from your perspective. But like, he probably feels
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like fucking shit. And maybe something's going on. So my first note would be ask him how he's doing.
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You know, I know this and acknowledge it. I know this has been a struggle. I know that I may also be
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being annoying that I'm trying to get you back. It's just because I love you and I want you to be the
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best version of yourself and I want you to feel good. And I I also want you to be healthy so that I'm
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you know, able to have a partner that's capable and taking care of themselves. And I can see how I
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could be coming off as being, you know, nagging you. And I want to check in like, how are you?
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Are you okay? What's going on? And just listen to him. Don't interrupt. Don't try to
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reframe the narrative. Listen to what he's saying. Maybe he's super stressed about finances.
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Maybe he's stressed about his job. Maybe he's going through something mentally. Maybe there he needs,
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you know, medication or maybe he needs to switch jobs or he has a family issue or he just
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something, right? Maybe something is fucking going on, but you're not going to know it. If it's
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masked by he's eating like shit and he's sitting on the couch. One, there could be a very, very big
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reason for that or two. Now the other option is that's just who he is, right? Has he always been
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this way? And maybe in the beginning stages, you were just so madly in love that you kind of like
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didn't notice it. But now you're kind of starting to really look at your future with this person.
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And it's a big thing. You start to like, I mean, I'm literally like in my 30s, but I'm like,
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it is a big thing. You're like, I want to be with someone that takes care of themselves. And I'll be
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honest in my 20s. I didn't really give a shit. Like if I was dating a guy that was a club rat or
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whatever, I'd be like, woo, this is fun. And now I'm like, it's really attractive to me that every
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single day Matt is getting up and he's working out. It's not like he's every day lifting and
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bulking and going crazy, but he had told me he was like, I have made a commitment to myself that
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I'm going to move my body every single day. And I think Matt's inspired by his grandmother is
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101 years old. This Christmas, she'll be 102. And she walked for miles and miles every day, right? And
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that has this internal motivation within himself that motivates me. I'll be honest. I'm the one
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that's a little bit like, I'm going to sit on the couch and I'm not going to do anything. And he's
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like, come on babe, like, get up. And if I say no, he doesn't pressure me. But it's motivating to
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have a partner that is wanting to take care of themselves. But I could see where it could get to
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a place where you're like, fuck you. Matt never is pressuring me. Matt knows I want to do things
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on my own time. He likes to wake up super like Matt's in the fucking gym at like 5 a.m. I'm like, what
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the fuck are you doing? You psycho path. I'll go at like 7 7 30. No, thank you for a 5 30 date
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next to the fucking elliptical. Like not interested. So, but it is attractive to have someone that is
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really health conscious, not to a point where you're like, okay, like eat a fucking chip. Like you're
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only eating fucking kale, like calm down again to each their own. But you have to find what works in
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your dynamic, right? And so I think you're clearly getting extremely unattracted to the way this
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person is living and it's flowing into a capacity that you need something to change. And maybe you
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think he needs to change, but maybe he doesn't want to. But you got to have an open conversation about
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it and see where he's at. But I feel like a lot of times when you do have those type of conversations,
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when it does relate to this like health stuff, a lot of times it's it's mental. He's going through
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something and you're not going to be able to get pull him out of it, but you can be there to support
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him through it. And that is a huge difference. Next one. Hi, daddy. This summer, my fiance and I
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found out that we were expecting a baby. We're so thrilled. But my pregnancy has been really hard.
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I've been so sick that at times I've struggled to care for myself. My fiance has been a great
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partner to me, making dinner every night, keeping our home clean all on top of working six days a
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week. I am becoming codependent on him. Every time he leaves for work, I have such intense
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anxiety and I don't feel better until he returns home. It's gotten to the point where I dread
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going to bed at night because I know that in the morning, he's leaving for the day. I know this
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isn't healthy and I don't want to and I want to feel independent again. I feel crazy, though. Please
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help. How can I get out of this code dependency? Okay. Number one, I have not been pregnant before.
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So again, I'm kind of I'm going off with what my friends have shared with me. This is very normal.
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This is something that unfortunately I don't think that many women publicly speak about because
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for fear of shame, for fear of like, what do you mean? Matherhead, so if I can be beautiful,
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everything should be fucking perfect. It's not. Your body is going through one of the
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no, not one of the the biggest change it will ever go through in your life. You are carrying a
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physical human being inside of you. You are growing a new human being inside of you. Your hormones
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are all over the place. Your body is changing. Your identity is shifting. You are no longer just you.
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You are a soon to be mother. You are a pregnant woman. You're going through so much and your husband
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gets to get up every day. Wave goodbye and walk out the fucking door and when he shows up to work,
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no one knows he's pregnant because he's not, but no one knows. They don't need to know he's
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dealing with, you know, he doesn't have hormone things going on. They don't even, maybe they don't
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even know he has a wife who's pregnant. He gets to be the same fucking Joe Schmell that he was
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the day before you got pregnant and then the day you got pregnant. His life doesn't fucking change.
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So he is steady, Eddie. He is understandably the one that you probably feel like you can rely on
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because nothing has changed in his fucking life except for supporting you who everything is
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changing for you. So give yourself grace that it is okay that you are feeling like you are,
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you're losing your mind a little bit. I had lunch with a friend of mine who has a new child
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and she opened up to me and was like, Alex, not putting pressure on you, but whenever you get pregnant,
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if you can get pregnant, of course, you know, knock on wood. I hope you share a little bit of this
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because there's no one out there that's really talking about the really kind of shitty shit
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that mentally you go through. And again, everyone's situation is so different. There's people that
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experience just pure bliss, which I have a hard time believing everything goes well, right? And
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there's people that, you know, there's postpartum, there's all these things. But the point is is we don't
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give women enough grace during pregnancy and also if anything, even more after pregnancy.
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Once you pop out the baby, everyone's like, okay, you're fine, right? You're fine. You're like,
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hold on. So giving you grace here, no, you should not feel guilty that you have gotten yourself
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into a position where you feel like you're leaning into codependency. So my advice for you would be
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number one, talk to your partner. This whole episode, talk to your partner. That's literally
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the whole point of this whole episode is talk to your fucking partner. No, talk to your partner,
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sit him down. Be so fucking vulnerable and open, babe. First, I wanted to say, thank you. I
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literally couldn't do this without you. You every single day have amazed me by how you are able
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to help me be there for me, juggle all the things at home for me. And then you're going to work.
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I love you. I respect you. I see you. Thank you. I need to be honest. I think I'm kind of
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losing it a little because I've let you do these things. And a lot of the moments I've needed you
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to do them. But now I'm losing myself a little bit. And I think I need to take some things back.
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Right. I need to, and I want you to like hear me and work with me here because I don't want to
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feel like I'm doing it alone. Like, what do you think? What should I take back and like,
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let's talk about it? Maybe I could take back, you know, maybe I go grocery shopping or maybe I'm
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going to do the dishes or maybe I'm going to whatever it be. And have him aware, though,
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not be like, you're just taking it back. So then he's like, oh, maybe she's feeling great.
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And then he adds more to your plate. Share with him. This is a struggle. I'm going through it.
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I need you to support me. I'm thinking I can take on more. I may not be able to. And then I think
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if you are capable therapy, I think no matter what and no matter as much as our husbands can be
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there for us during pregnancy. Again, I've never been pregnant from what I gather from all my friends
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who have gone through this. They don't, they will never understand. They will never understand. And
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you need to also build yourself up individually. And that I think will help with the co-dependent
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stuff where it's like, you need to get to a place where you're talking to someone. Maybe twice
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a week, once a week, you look forward to talking to them. You're maybe you're journaling and you're
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doing something for yourself that doesn't have to do with the baby. You're talking about you.
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How are we going to get you back on track? And I think sometimes, understandably, like I said
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earlier, as women, we literally put ourselves last. Take care of husband. Take care of it. And although
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he's doing all the things, you're feeling like you are incapable. Let's get back to making you feel
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capable because guess what? In X amount of months, you are about to do the fucking most impressive,
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fucking thing. And you are going to give birth to a human being. You are incredible. Do not forget
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that. Don't lose that part of yourself. You are capable and you've got this. But open up to your
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partner and share with him how you've been feeling kind of shitty. And I'm sure he's going to step
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up for you. He seems like a fucking amazing guy. AKA ladies. Oh, this is a nice little fucking wrap up.
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Think about what we were just talking about. Think about that. With that woman just is writing in
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being like, I'm struggling. My partner showing up for me. Anyone that has a little bitch boy that
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you've been mothering. Imagine if you want to have kids. Imagine if you want to have kids. Think
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about how hell it will be if you are with and marry a man that you have mothered. And then you need
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a little bit of fucking help when you're pregnant or you have kids and you just literally have another
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fucking kid sitting next to you and you're alone. Set yourself up for success in the partner that
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you're choosing. And I was thinking about doing a full episode on how to know you have the right
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partner and what to look for in a partner because there's a difference between a partner. And there's
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a difference between a husband who is going to potentially be the father to children. Like there's
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a lot that goes into play of your personal. Obviously what you want in your life. Maybe some people
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don't want kids. Maybe some people do want kids. Finding a partner in your life is such a big fucking
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step and it is probably one of the most important decisions you ever make in your life. And so
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choosing that person. It should not be a rush. It should not be overlooked. And if there are already
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things that you are sitting in the dating phase with this person that you were like, I cannot
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fucking stand you or oh my god, I have a pit in my stomach or oh, he just doesn't make me feel good.
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Like my mother always said shout out, Laurie. Anything that bothers you before you get married is
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only going to get 10 times worse once you marry this person. And especially once you have kids.
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If you think a marriage or a kid is going to put a bandaid or fix something, it is going to make
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hit worse. So choose the right fucking partner, daddy gang. No pressure. But yeah, I can do a
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whole episode on that. I love you guys so much. And thanks for hanging out with me today. I love you.
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Okay, I love you guys so much. I'm trying to think is there anything else that we need to do?
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No, there's nothing except go break up with your not-chit boyfriends if you are mothering them.
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Love you. I will see you fuckers on Wednesday. Bye.
Topics Covered
mothering your partner
relationship dynamics
emotional labor in relationships
caretaker roles
double standards in relationships
responsibility sharing
healthy relationship tips
communication in relationships
partner responsibilities
relationship resentment
toxic relationship patterns
women's roles in relationships
relationship advice
self-care in relationships
gender roles in partnerships
healthy boundaries