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O/I Trivia: Natural Selection
In this episode of Outside In, host Nate Hegey leads a lively trivia game focused on environmental topics and U.S. presidents. Joined by contestants Justine Paredi and Hannah McCarthy, the group tackl...
O/I Trivia: Natural Selection
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Nate's the one who's gonna start, but you know, just a warm up.
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How's everyone doing today?
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How are we feeling?
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Good.
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Caffinated.
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Ready to go.
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It's still morning here in Alaska, so I'm doing morning trivia.
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It's morning in Alaska.
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Morning in Alaska.
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Trivia's always done at nighttime, right?
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If it's good, yeah.
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Yeah, exactly.
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If it's gonna be fun.
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Okay, so nighttime vibes.
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It's nighttime right now.
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Yeah.
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It's like I have a cocktail in here.
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Yeah.
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That would be so great.
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I'm a double down.
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Yeah.
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Hey, I am Nate Hegey, and this is Outside In, a show where curiosity and the natural world
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collide.
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And today, these two worlds are gonna be colliding in one of my favorite formats, random
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trivia questions.
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Now, I've said on the show before that I love a good brew pub trivia night, so here we
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are minus the beers, lots of coffee instead.
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And today, our game master will be none other than producer Felix Poon Felix.
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Have you ever done this before?
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Never.
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No, this is my first time.
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Are you excited?
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Do you feel confident about your question?
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Oh, I feel confident.
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I feel confident.
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Besides myself, we have two other contestants, Justine Paredi, Justine.
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Hello.
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Hi.
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And a special guest from our NHPR sister podcast, Civics 101.
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We've got co-host Hannah McCarthy.
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Hannah, I know you've done trivia episodes on your show.
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How are you on environmental topics?
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Well, we're gonna find out.
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I'll say right at the top here.
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I tend to get anxious during trivia, and even if I know the answer, I'm not gonna know
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it.
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Just so everyone knows, I really do know all the answers.
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Same here, Hannah.
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Same here.
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See, I feel like I always do bad at trivia.
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It's not just like, I just like it.
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I like seeing other people shine.
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I'm so excited to see you all shine and to see me fail miserably.
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Uh.
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Okay, Felix, take it away.
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Okay, so I figured I'd warm us all up with a practice question.
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I'm going to ask the question, and then I'll give you each a chance to make a guess
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before I tell you the answer.
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And whoever gets the answer right gets a point.
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Are you ready?
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I thought it was practice.
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This is for points.
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I was just trying to ease your nerves.
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It's just a practice, but you get points.
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So okay, but it counts.
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For as long as there has been TV, acting US presidents have been appearing on the small
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screen.
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But only one commander in chief traveled to an Alaskan glacier to star in a survival skills
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reality TV show.
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I think the president looked a little surprised when I pulled out this sort of bloody carcass
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of half-eaten salmon.
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But who was the president?
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And I'm going to give each of you a chance to answer this.
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And then after you each go, I'm going to tell you the answer.
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So who was the president?
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Starting with Hannah, what's your guess?
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Well, I'm going to go with because this seems very silly.
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My guess is president Selena Myers from the...
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Just Dean.
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I was going to say it sounded kind of contemporary.
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And this feels like something that George W. Bush would do.
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I'm out, went on the big Navy carrier, right?
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Yes.
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I feel like he might also want to prove his bonafide survival skills.
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So I'm going to say George W. Bush.
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Was this supposed to be a fictional president?
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No, this is a real president.
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Oh, I thought you were being silly.
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No, no, I completely misunderstood the question.
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This is why this is a practice round.
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It's a practice.
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OK, Nate.
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I know this one.
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This is Barack Obama.
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The fact that he told me that this was a leftover fish from a bear?
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I don't know if that was necessary.
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He could just let that out.
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Nate got it right.
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So the TV show was called Running Wild with Bear Grills.
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And apparently it was the White House's idea
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to have Obama on the show.
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They were surrounded by handlers and special forces.
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And someone who was hovering over Obama
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as he was eating the salmon just to make sure it was OK.
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There's no parasites in that salmon, right?
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So even though he ate a bear chewed piece of salmon in the episode,
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Obama did decline to drink his own urine.
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Like Will Ferrell did on a previous episode.
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It's probably the right choice for the city of US president.
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Alrighty, folks.
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Grab some paper.
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A pencil, maybe a pint.
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Because today on Outside In producer Felix Poon
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is piloting a new trivia segment.
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We are calling Natural Selection.
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Are we calling it Natural Selection?
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Did you come up with that?
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Was that a Taylor Quimbee idea?
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Hi, dude.
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Does anyone have a better name?
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I like that.
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Yeah, I think it's clever.
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Yeah.
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OK.
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Natural Selection.
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Stay tuned.
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Hey, I'm your host, Nate Hegey.
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This is Outside In, a show where curiosity in the natural world collide.
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And today I am on the trivia hot seat with Justine Parady and Hannah McCarthy of Civics 101.
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Hey, y'all.
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Hi.
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Hello.
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And though I may be the host of Outside In, I am not the game master today.
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Producer Felix Poon is.
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So please begin.
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That is I.
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I am the game master.
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We are doing this today because we're inspired by this voicemail we got from Luke in Virginia,
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who was recently hiking at Camp Roosevelt, where he climbed the Kennedy Peak.
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And it's just got me thinking about presidents and the outdoors.
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I know that Teddy Roosevelt is a very famous outdoorsman president, but I wonder what other things we know about the privileges of presidents and the outdoors.
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Has any president ever been backpacking, for example?
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I'd love if Outside In could look into this and figure out other than Teddy, our famous adventurer, who was the most concerned for some presidents.
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I feel like I've seen pictures of Reagan out in the backwards and JFK like to sail.
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You've got George W. Bush cutting brush with a chainsaw.
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He also is into mountain biking.
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He used to host a hundred kilometer mountain bike ride for post 9-11 war vets.
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Wow.
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Bill Clinton used to jog around the Capitol about three times a week and apparently that was a secret service nightmare.
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Did he really run to McDonald's or is that just a set in it live?
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Does anybody know that one?
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No.
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He goes for a run and he runs to McDonald's and then he just starts eating everybody's food.
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Say, are you going to finish these fries?
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No, you want some?
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Well, if you're not going to eat them, these are good.
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All right.
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Well, why don't we go further back in time for our first round of trivia questions?
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Oh, boy.
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You ready for the first question?
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Yes.
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Ready.
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Here we go.
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Teddy Roosevelt is known for being the conservationist president, but his distant cousin Franklin Delanoire Roosevelt was also a lover of the outdoors.
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So here's the first question.
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FDR built what he called his little white house in Georgia near what kind of natural feature which helped him ease the symptoms of polio?
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Nate?
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Um, I'm going to guess hot springs.
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Some sort of springs?
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Justine?
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I think hot springs.
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Hannah?
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I'm going to switch it up a little bit.
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I'm going to say near a lake that he would just sort of ease around in.
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The answer is hot springs.
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Oh, yeah.
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Or as they came to be known in this area, warm springs because the natural mineral water here was at a constant, cozy 88 degrees.
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And the town itself where the little white house was built is called Warm Springs, Georgia.
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Oh, gotta keep it cozy.
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Okay, moving on to our next question.
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What Nebraska-born Republican was the only president to assume the two highest offices in the country without actually being elected?
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And the only president to previously serve as a national park ranger.
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Justine?
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Oh, this is where I'd lean a look of fool.
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Oh, I think I'm going to be right there with you, Justine.
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The national park system wasn't established till around Teddy Roosevelt.
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So we were talking after him, right?
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Yellowstone wasn't like the 1800s.
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I think that was the first one.
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I thought it was the late 1800s.
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Well, at least it was established as a, and maybe he was a park ranger before there was a park service.
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I'm just going to throw.
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I don't remember which presidents were late had to assume office after those were assassinated or stepped down.
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Ford.
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All right, Hannah.
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Gerald Ford.
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And I'm, that's all I'm saying.
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Nate.
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Yeah, I mean, that was going to be my, my guess as well was Gerald Ford.
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I picked that out of the air.
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Very well done, Justine.
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I'm very impressed.
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Yeah, Gerald Ford points for everyone.
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So I can't believe that worked.
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That's crazy.
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Gerald Ford became vice president after Spiro Agnew stepped down and then he became president once Nixon resigned.
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Before all of this, though, when he was just 23 years old, he was a national park ranger at Yellowstone.
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And he called it one of the greatest summers of his life and was known for feeding grizzly bears in front of tourists.
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It's a really bad idea.
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Yeah, really, really terrible terrible practice.
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All right, last question on president.
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So we've all probably heard of Camp David.
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But before Camp David, there was a very rustic presidential retreat called Camp Rapidan in Shenandoah National Park.
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What former mining engineer and one term president first had the camp built and then donated it to the government on his way out of office during the Great Depression?
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Hannah.
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Oh, Herbert Hoover.
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Nate.
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Yeah, I was going to say Hoover because he left during the Great Depression.
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Justine.
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This is boring because Hoover.
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Herbert Hoover, it is.
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So the retreat he made in Virginia was sometimes called the Brown House, you know, to get away from the White House.
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Or it was also called Camp Hoover.
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But as I mentioned, Hoover presided over the Great Depression and his love of fishing at Camp Hoover didn't play too well in the public eye.
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It was sort of the how much time has he spent golfing of the era?
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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Not very popular when he left.
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Yeah, the Brown House to me sounds almost like it's like a euphemism for like an outhouse.
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Yeah, I was going to say the same thing.
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Yeah, yeah, that's the outhouse.
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Yeah, that's the outhouse.
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Yeah, that's the outhouse.
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Exactly.
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Okay, our next trivia category is climate and the environment in the media.
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I'm going to test your knowledge about movies and TV and this one goes to whoever can shout out the answer first.
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Scary.
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Here we go.
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The filmmakers behind this Academy Award-winning movie about climate change struggled to come up with a catchy name.
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But working titles included The Rising and Too Hot to Handle.
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What was the movie?
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What?
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An inconvenient truth.
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Yes.
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Oh, that one's an Academy Award?
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Wow.
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It did.
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It did.
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It won, too.
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I did not know that.
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What was the, oh, one best original song, didn't it?
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Yeah, best original song and it beat out two songs from the Dreamgirls movie that were sung by Beyoncé and Jennifer Hudson.
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Are you kidding me?
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Do we have the song?
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I mean, is it a Bob?
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Yeah, it was an algorithm singing the song.
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It was Melissa Etheridge's, I need to wake up.
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I need to wake up.
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So director Davis Guggenheim did these taped interviews with Al Gore.
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So one day he was asking, Gore, why is this so hard for people to grasp?
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And Gore goes on and on and at the end of this long answer, he's like, because it's an inconvenient truth.
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And that's where the title came from.
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It was after a long spitball as it often is.
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Yeah.
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Okay, next question.
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So don't look up is a 2021 satirical Netflix film about a comet as a metaphor for climate change.
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Which cast member known for their work and other post apocalyptic dystopian movies filmed most of the movie with a broken tooth?
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Oh, Timothy Jalamey.
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Keep land shut.
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Meryl Streep.
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I was just listing everybody in the movies, Leonardo DiCaprio.
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This was in it.
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Jennifer Lawrence.
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What other dystopian games?
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Hunger Games.
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Hunger Games.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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So J-Law broke a tooth early in production, but because of COVID restrictions, she said she couldn't get to the dentist until after the film was shot.
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So it has a fill in her tooth with CGI in post production.
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Oh, really?
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Oh, wow.
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It's like the comet and her tooth were like the biggest budget items on the post production.
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Can you imagine that job?
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Like that's your job and post production is like, all right, I gotta go through every frame and just fill in this little gap.
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Well, that's kind of like what they did in the movie Cats, where they added the buttholes for the cats and then they decided to go back and erase all of them.
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Oh, my God.
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Cats are like one of the creatures whose like butthole is most visible.
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Absolutely.
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It's just like, look.
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Yeah.
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Check it out.
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Okay.
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Next question.
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The epic film Waterworld was set in a future where the polar ice caps have melted and most of the film was shot on boats off the coast of Hawaii.
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But none of the boats had any what on board, which became a pretty cumbersome logistical problem for filming.
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Bathrooms.
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Bathrooms.
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Yeah.
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Justine got it first.
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So any time someone had to go to the bathroom, they had to be varied back to shore, which you can imagine slowed down filming.
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Waterworld incidentally went way, way over budget and was the most expensive movie ever made at the time.
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See, that's interesting because a plot point in water world is that you have to process and drink your own urine.
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You'd think that they would have done some real life experience there, but no.
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All right.
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This next question is about a famous PSA from the 1970s on TV that came to be known as the Crying Indian ad.
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It shows a man in Buckskin and Brades and a feather behind his ear canoeing on a river and then shedding a single tear over the litter and garbage on the river banks.
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Some people have a deep abiding respect for the natural beauty that was once this country.
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And some people don't.
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While the PSA seems to have a pro environmental message, it was made by Keep America Beautiful, which represented among other companies what manufacture of small disposable paper and plastic cups.
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Dixie?
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Yes.
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Hannah got it first.
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The Dixie Cup Company. Besides the Dixie Cup Company, Coca-Cola, the American Can Company, and the Owens Illinois Glass Company formed the Keep America Beautiful organization that was behind the so-called Crying Indian ad.
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It was an early version of putting the blame on consumers instead of companies.
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Wow, that was like a carbon footprint moment, pre-carbon footprint.
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People start pollution. People can stop it.
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And by the way, the actor who played the so-called Crying Indian wasn't even indigenous.
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I said pixie, is it Dixie Cup?
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Dixie Cup, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I got it wrong.
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Yeah, Dixie.
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Pixie is a better name than Dixie, because they're small. I think that you're onto something.
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And because of Dixie.
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Yeah.
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Surprise that one survived.
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Yeah, that was going to say.
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All right, we're going to take a quick break, stretch our legs, get a drink, but just a preview for what's coming up when we're back, we're playing a game called Guess That Animal.
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And we're listening to some songs as well. Plus, I'm going to quiz you on your climate policy knowledge.
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Oh no.
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This is where we lose all our listeners, because our thoughts are great.
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Bye-bye.
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All right, also, since we were just talking about movies, it feels like a great time to say that we are scheming up an outside-in movie night episode, and we want to hear from you, dear listener.
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What's one of your favorite movies that centers nature in a big way?
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Why do you like it so much? And what sticks with you the most?
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Give us a call at 1-844-GO-OTTER, or you can send us a voice memo to outsideinatnhpr.org.
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All right, we'll be right back.
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Welcome back to Outside In, a show where curiosity in the natural world collide.
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I am Nate Hegey, here today with Justine Perity.
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Hi.
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Oh, God. I'm on the stand.
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Hannah McCarthy.
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Hello.
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And our trivia game master Felix Poon.
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Felix, what's the score, by the way?
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The score is, Justine has four points.
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Nate has five, and Hannah has three.
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Yep. Sounds about right.
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That was that forward shot in the dark.
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That's great.
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All right, well, why don't we see if we can shake the scoreboard up a bit?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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A lightning round.
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A lightning round.
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So, the topic for this lightning round is the Grouse Grunts and Yelps of North America.
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I'm going to play the sound of an animal native to North America.
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You have to guess what it is.
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Oh, fun.
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As soon as you think you know, whoever shouts it out first gets the point.
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And then if none of us get the point, Felix, do you just get a negative point?
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And then we can count all your negative points for having two harder questions.
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But shouldn't I go, what chance do I get to get points?
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You don't.
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So I'm just going to lose.
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Yeah, exactly.
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It makes us feel better.
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Okay, here we go.
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Lightning rounds.
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Animal sounds.
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Are you ready?
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Justine got it.
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Chipmunk.
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Close.
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Squirrel.
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What?
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Squirrel with a cold.
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It's a porcupine.
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Porcupine.
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Wow.
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Okay.
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Chipmunk.
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No.
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Pig.
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Close.
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Hog.
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Wild boar.
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Close to a pig.
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It is tick.
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Hipopotamus.
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It's a wickery.
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It's a groundhog.
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Groundhogs aren't close to pigs.
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How is that close to pig?
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It's a name hog.
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Oh, groundhog.
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I guess what you're saying.
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Yeah, okay.
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Elk.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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That was beautiful.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The Cater.
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Nice.
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Okay, next one.
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Lion.
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Lion.
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Native to North America.
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Oh, these are Native to North America.
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Hipo.
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Close.
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It's not a hipo, but it's close.
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Close to hipo.
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Is this another one of those closes that's not close?
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It is an alligator.
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Well, I mean, I see it.
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I don't know if these close comments are that helpful.
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Here's the last one.
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Come on.
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You have to play that again.
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One more time.
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One more time.
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Frog.
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Chipmunk.
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It was an Asheloddle.
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What?
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Oh.
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What a cute little sound for a cute little guy.
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Asheloddles are amphibians.
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They live underwater, but sometimes they'll take a gulp of air from the surface, which makes this little squeaking noise.
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Play it one more time.
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Cute.
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Okay, that is the end of the lightning round.
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Justine got one right for a total of five now.
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Nate got two right for a total of seven, and Hannah got one more right for a total of four.
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Right.
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Well, we did okay.
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We did all right.
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Not bad.
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Not bad.
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Moving on to our next category, Environmental Politics and Activism.
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First one to answer gets a point.
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Are you ready?
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Yes.
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Sure.
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Here we go.
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When oil slicks on the Chaehoga River in Ohio caught fire, it ushered in a wave of environmental activism and regulations,
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and prompted this US President at the time to create the Environmental Protection Agency.
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Who was the President?
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Shout it out.
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Nixon.
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Yeah.
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I completely forgot about that.
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Republican Richard Nixon signed a lot of landmark environmental legislation into law, including the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, the Endangered Species Act,
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and besides the EPA, he also established NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
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It was a different time.
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It sure was.
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Okay.
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So the next couple of these are multiple choice, and this time I'll give each of you a chance to answer like we did in the first half.
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Nice to meet you.
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Okay.
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Donald Trump, so-called big, beautiful bill of this year, gutted a lot of the tax incentives meant to decarbonize the energy sector, but not all renewable technologies were targeted.
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Which of these renewable incentives were left more or less untouched?
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A, hydro power, B, geothermal, C, solar, D, wind, and E, nuclear.
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By the way, there's more than one, but you can only pick one for this question.
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Nate.
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Okay.
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I'm going to pick nuclear because I know it's really popular in some conservative circles, including in Wyoming.
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So I'm going to go with nuclear.
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All right.
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Justine.
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I feel like there's a lot of discussion and political debate around dams, so I'm going to say hydro power.
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Hannah.
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I agree with both of those because I know that the tax credits remained for both nuclear and hydro power.
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I don't know about the others, but I'll say hydro power.
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All correct.
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You all get a point.
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The three answers are hydro power, geothermal, and nuclear.
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So new wind and solar projects can still get tax credits, but only if construction begins on or before July 4th, 2026 for commercial projects.
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For residential solar, it has to be installed and functional by December 31st of this year.
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So if anyone's listening and thinking of installing some solar panels, they better get on that too.
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All right.
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Let's go international now.
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So lots of famous international environmental agreements have longer, wonkier names than the public is used to hearing.
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Which of these is not the real name of an international environmental agreement?
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So we're going to give each of you a chance to answer.
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Okay.
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Is it A, the Montreal Protocol on substances that deplete the ozone layer?
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B, the Vienna Convention for the Protection of the Ozone Layer?
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C, the Kyoto Protocol to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change?
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Or D, the Paris Agreement to Limit Global Temperature Rise?
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Justine.
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B, Vienna.
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Hannah?
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I agree.
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I'm going to say Vienna.
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Nate.
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I am also going to say Vienna because Montreal, Kyoto and Paris are all just good buzzwords in the climate world.
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Yeah.
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Recognizable.
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You're all wrong.
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What?
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So the Paris Agreement is just called the Paris Agreement.
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Oh my god.
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Oh no, you get a negative one.
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You get a negative one.
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Sorry.
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Yeah, that's a big one.
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Negative one.
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I don't know.
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I kind of like that.
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We got tricked.
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Vienna, that's funny.
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There were two on the ozone.
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Apparently, so the Vienna Convention for the Protection of the Ozone Layer came first.
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It was like, let's all start cooperating on gathering data on the ozone layer.
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And then a few years later, they're like, okay, let's actually decide to do something about it.
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And then the Montreal Protocol was doing something about it where there were actual commitments to reduce substances that deplete the ozone layer.
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Okay, so enough with laws.
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Let's talk activism.
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This one is multiple choice.
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Let's make this shout it out.
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When environmental justice champion Hazel Johnson discovered her Chicago housing project was surrounded by a ring of pollution and contaminated water,
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she compared it to a pastry, referring to it as the toxic what?
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And there's going to be four options.
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A. Bagel.
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B. Cressant.
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C. Donut.
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D. Bearclaw.
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C. Donut.
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Hannah.
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Wow.
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Got her a nice Hannah.
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Toxic Donut.
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So Hazel Johnson went on to be called the mother of environmental justice for her work.
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She got the city to clean up local drinking water and air pollution.
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She also worked at the national level and served on the EPA's National Environmental Justice Advisory Council under Bill Clinton.
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Wow.
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All right, let's check the scores.
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So Justine has seven points.
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She has eight points.
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Hannah has six.
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Woo.
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Okay, so this will be our final round.
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And the category is songs about climate change, nature, and the environment.
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So the way this will work, I'll start reading the lyrics to a classic song about or related to the environment.
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And if you know the song or the artist, you can shout it out.
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And I'll give you a point for the song and a point for the artist.
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So if like one of you gets one, you know, there's still a chance to get the other one.
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I like this.
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If I get to the chorus or the name of the song is mentioned in the lyrics, then nobody gets it.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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There.
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First song.
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Poison is the winds that blows from the north and south and east.
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Oh, things ain't what they used to be.
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Oil wasted on the ocean and upon our seas.
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Bob Dylan.
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Fish full of mercury.
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Oh, oh.
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Mercy, mercy me.
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I did.
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Oh, Marvin Gaye.
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Oh, oh, oh, wasted.
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Wow.
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Okay, so no one gets a point for the song, but Nate gets a point for Marvin Gaye.
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Mercy, mercy me.
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Okay, next song.
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Hey farmer farmer, put away your DDT now.
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Johnny Mitchell, big yellow taxi.
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Nice.
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What a voice.
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Great song.
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I love that song.
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So Hannah gets two points for that.
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The poppin' love.
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Next song.
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I see trees of green.
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Red roses.
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Louie Armstrong.
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What a wonderful world.
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Nate Hege.
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Good to do it.
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I know.
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I heard the ground.
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I see trees of green.
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Red roses too.
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I see them blue.
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They're probably new.
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And I think to myself.
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What a wonderful world.
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Alright, so last song.
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This is the last chance to get a point or two.
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Alright, here's the song.
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Well, I think it's fine building jumbo planes, or taking a ride on a cosmic train.
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Switch on summer from a slot machine.
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Yes, get what you want to if you want.
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Bob Dylan.
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Because you can get anything I know we've come a long way.
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We're changing day to day.
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But tell me.
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Where do all the children play?
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Nice.
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And it's Kat Stevens.
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Kat Stevens slash Yusuf.
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Because Kat Stevens now goes by Yusuf.
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Oh, wow.
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Hannah gets two points.
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I know we've come a long way.
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We're changing day to day.
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Tell me.
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Where do the children play?
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Alright, let me tally up the scores.
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Drum roll, please.
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Justine has seven.
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Hannah has ten.
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And Nate has eleven.
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Nate is our winner.
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That music round really wiped me out.
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Yeah, I thought Hannah was going to take me over in the music round.
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She killed it there.
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In hog girl trivia, nicely done.
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Yeah, good job.
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Yeah, nice feeling.
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Thank you.
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How many points do I get?
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You get negative one.
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Negative one.
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It's really good.
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Oh, yeah.
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Didn't we establish that this is a thankless job?
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Alright, that is it for today's trivia episode.
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And we want to know how did you all do at home?
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Did you keep track?
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This episode was produced in Mixed by Felix Pooh.
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It was edited by our executive producer Taylor Quimby.
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Our staff also includes Marina Hanki and Jessica Hunt.
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Rebecca LaVoy is NHPR's director of on-demand audio.
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Music in this episode is by Jules Gaia, Arthur Benson,
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stationary sign and Ludwig Moulin.
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Our theme music is by Break Master Sylvainer.
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Outsidein is production of New Hampshire Public Radio.
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Music in the background
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Music in the background
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My cat has a perfect, perfect white ring around her butthole
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and it's just broadcasting it.
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It's like, oh my god.
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This is my butt.