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Canadian Connections: The 2004 Boxing Day Tsunami
In this episode of Dark Poutine, hosts Mike and Matthew delve into the devastating 2004 Boxing Day tsunami, exploring its historical context and the impact on Canadians. They reflect on personal stori...
Canadian Connections: The 2004 Boxing Day Tsunami
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At dawn on December 26, 2004, Acheh Provin's in Northern Samatra began the day with no sign of
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what was to come. A massive undersea earthquake among the strongest ever recorded struck deep
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beneath the Indian Ocean off Samatra's west coast. The seafloor shifted several meters with a
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rupture stretching over 1200 kilometers and the tremors were so intense that they were registered
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across continents. Within minutes, colossal tsunami waves raced out into the Indian Ocean reaching
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up to 30 meters high near the coast. Villages in Acheh were hit just 15 minutes after the quake
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with the deluge spreading in the following hours to Thailand, Sri Lanka, India, the Maldives,
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and even the East African coast. Locals and tourists on the beaches had little warning,
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watching a tranquil morning turn into a disaster as the water surged in.
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The scale of the loss was staggering over 227,000 people in 14 countries died with Indonesia,
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Thailand, India, and Sri Lanka hardest hit. Holmes, businesses, and communities
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disappeared beneath the waves, leaving survivors to face displacement and grief.
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The boxing day tsunami remains the deadliest tsunami in history and one of the worst natural
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disasters of the modern era. At least 15 Canadians were confirmed dead and another six missing
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after the disaster, most while vacationing in Thailand or Sri Lanka. Survivors described the
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anguish of searching for loved ones in a long complicated process of identifying and repatriating
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those lost. You are listening to Dark Bootene episode 391, Canadian Connections, the 2004 boxing day
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tsunami. I address this topic in a chapter of my first book, the best-selling murder madness in
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Mayhem, however, it's still a story that's on my mind for several reasons. In my book, I was limited
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by word count and could not effectively address specific topics, including the stories of Canadians
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who were present to whom I knew John and Jackie Nill. They both perished that day. This episode is
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my way of digging back into something that both fascinates and terrifies me. Throughout history,
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tsunamis have left marks on both humankind and landscapes. Their records reaching back to
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antiquity and spanning the globe. Long before technology offered warnings or allowed for rapid
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response, these waves arrived with little more than moments of foreboding, the sudden withdrawal of
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the sea, the frightened flight of birds, a distant, unyielding roar. The threat of tsunamis predates
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written history with geological evidence revealing ancient events caused by asteroid impacts and
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massive landslides. For example, the collapse of the East Molokai volcano in Hawaii over a million
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years ago unleashed a wave estimated to be 600 meters high. Its effects were found as far away as
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California and Mexico. The Chixalube impact, which contributed to the extinction of the dinosaurs
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approximately 66 million years ago, sent waves over 1,500 meters high across the Gulf of Mexico.
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While these prehistoric tsunamis surpass anything recorded in history, it is the more recent events,
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those experienced, chronicled, and endured by humans that shape a clearer history.
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The oldest written account of a tsunami dates back to 479 BC in Paudity, Greece during a Persian siege.
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The Greek historian Herodotus tells how Persian attackers pursuing retreating waters were suddenly
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overwhelmed by a returning great tide higher as the locals say than anyone of many that had been
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before. Ancient writers often attributed such devastation to the wrath of gods. Herodotus
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cited Poseidon. Later, the sinking of Helike in 373 BC was seen as divine retribution and its
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legend may have fueled the origin myth of Atlantis. It's worth noting that Atlantis itself isn't
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an ancient folk memory actually Plato created Atlantis. He created the myth. As a thought experiment,
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of course he was indeed borrowing from real disasters like this one because it was only a few
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decades before he created Atlantis in Tameis and Crataeus. It's two sort of dialogues,
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books that he wrote about 360 BC. He's the story of talk about hubris and collapse,
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not to record history, and we're the ones that turned it into legend. In fact, my husband's
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watching Stargate Atlantis right now. It's interesting how things that are created as a thought
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experiment become truth, which is kind of true. By the way, just a side note here,
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Justin was so upset with me when I told him that Stargate was better than Star Trek.
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Oh dear, though, it them's fighting words to a trekkie. It's a better show.
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We're probably going to have lots of people calling you about that.
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Yeah. Lots of people are arguing with you. These are Matthew's opinions, not mine.
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By the 5th century BC, as noted by Thucydides in his history of the Peloponnesian war,
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thinkers began to contemplate natural causes for these maritime disasters. Thucydides argued,
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the cause in my opinion must be sought in the earthquake. At the point where its shock has been
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most violent, the sea is driven back and suddenly recoiling with redoubled force causes the
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inundation. Without an earthquake, I do not see how such an accident could happen. His observation
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linked tsunamis to undersea earthquakes, a connection recognized centuries before it could
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be scientifically proven. Throughout the Roman era, historical sources occasionally described the
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effects of tsunamis. Amianus, Marcellinus, in his account of the 365 AD earthquake and tsunami
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that devastated Alexandria, Egypt, vividly recounted how the sea retreated from the land so that
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the depths of the sea could be seen, littered with fish and other marine creatures before the
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water returned in a towering wall. This event was catastrophic, killing thousands and throwing
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ships two miles inland. The anniversary became an annual day of horror in Alexandria. In the centuries
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that followed, large tsunamis struck repeatedly across coastal Europe, the Middle East, and Asia.
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In Japan, a land acutely aware of the threat due to its frequent earthquakes records became
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especially meticulous. The first documented Japanese tsunami occurred in 684 AD, with waves
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striking the coasts of Kee, Shikoku, and Awaji. Historical records detail subsequent disasters such as
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the 869 Jogun earthquake and tsunami which flooded the San Riku region and destroyed Togajo,
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resulting in thousands of deaths. Japan's vulnerability became tragically clear again in 1707 and
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1703 when two massive tsunamis destroyed tens of thousands of homes and killed over 30,000 people
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each. Japanese communities developed a culture of preparedness, relocating villages to higher ground
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and following certain disastrous events, building protective coastal dikes. In 1755, one of the most
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powerful earthquakes in European history struck off the coast of Lisbon, Portugal, the shaking collapse
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buildings across the city. Then as thousands fled to the open waterfront to sea suddenly withdrew,
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exposing the harbor bed and shipwrecks, a series of waves then swept in one reaching 15 meters high,
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flooding streets, and killing tens of thousands. Many survivors perished in fires that followed,
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or were lost to aftershocks and disease. The combined toll is estimated between 40,000 and 50,000 deaths
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across Portugal, Spain, and Morocco. The philosopher Voltaire famously wrote of the disaster in his poem
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poem, Pohem Sardalut Disaster de Lisbon. The city of Lisbon is no more. Did the voice of the Lord fall
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upon the cities to destroy their children? The disaster changed European understanding of
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earthquakes and tsunamis, inspiring new approaches to natural hazards and risk.
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Yeah, the Lisbon earthquake was one of those big moments in human history because it wasn't just
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in natural disasters, kind of an intellectual one as well, right? It shook the foundations of how
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people explain the world. So Voltaire used it to question faith and roso blamed human choices
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like crowding in cities and the government's commission, the first sort of systematic surveys
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of the damage. And out of the ruins of Lisbon came statistics and map and this new idea that maybe
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disasters weren't punishments but patterns, right? That shift is what eventually gave us modern
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seismology and civil engineering. So you could actually argue that Lisbon was the first modern
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disaster investigation. Sure. Now there at the moment risk management seismology became sort of
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separate from theology. Yeah, a big move across the Indian Ocean, major tsunamis before 2004 were
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less well documented, but they left traces in oral history and in the land itself.
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Archaeological studies in Ache, Indonesia have revealed stratigraphic layers showing that at least
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11 prehistoric tsunamis struck the coast between 7,402,900 years ago, researchers note.
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The average time period between tsunamis is about 450 years with intervals ranging from a long
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dormant period of over 2000 years to multiple tsunamis within the span of a century.
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Other research in the Indian Ocean Basin supports accounts of large waves affecting Sri Lanka and
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India at intervals stretching a thousand years or more. The violent eruption of Krakatoa in 1883
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caused one of the deadliest tsunamis of the 19th century. Following a series of massive explosions,
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half of the island collapsed into the sea, generating waves as high as 40 meters.
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Contemporary reports from the Dutch East Indies, now Indonesia, describe villages inundated far
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inland with entire communities erased in minutes. Official Dutch colonial records reported 36,000
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dead with actual numbers likely higher. The aftermath left some areas never resettled,
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reverting to jungle. In his 1883 account, British naturalist Henry O. Forbes described arriving at
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Taluk Batong to find a landscape swept clean, the skeletons of houses, and men's lives scattered
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like driftwood above the new high watermark. In 1896, a devastating tsunami struck Japan's San Riku
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coast after a magnitude 7.6 earthquake. The waves rose more than 30 meters.
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Because the ground shaking was minimal, residents did not evacuate, believing there was no
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immediate risk. The death toll surpassed 27,000. Fisherman Rintaro Kizawa described,
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the tsunami arrived in three waves. The second was the greatest. I saw the sea run backwards
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away from us, exposing fish and seabed, then come back all at once. The Pacific and South American
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coast also suffered catastrophic tsunamis. The 1868 Eureka earthquake, with an estimated magnitude
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of between 8.5 and 9.3, triggered a tsunami that claimed approximately 25,000 lives in Peru,
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now Chile, and affected regions as distant as New Zealand and Japan. Waves carried warships inland,
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and witnesses reported the sea rose like a mountain covering the land and taking all before it.
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North America was not spared. The 1700 Cascadia earthquake ruptured around 1,000 kilometers of
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Pacific Northwest coastline, sending tsunamis across the Pacific to Japan, where it was recorded
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as the orphan tsunami. Indigenous accounts from the Nuchanolth and Maka peoples' televillages swept
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away. The forest that moved down to the sea and the sea that came up to the forest. Some local
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tsunamis showed remarkable force. In Alaska's Latoya Bay in 1958, a landslide generated a 524 meter
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wave stripping trees from the slopes. Howard Ulrich, who survived in a small boat described
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a wall of water rising above the trees coming at us faster than you can think. It picked up our
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boat as a matchstick. We rode on the crest for what seemed like forever before it set us down,
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stunned and alive. And that phrase stunned the live really sticks with me. I felt this way,
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particularly this year with all the stuff I've gone through. Stunned but alive, yeah.
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Yeah, and you know, you don't get through something this big and come out unchanged, right? And
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you don't walk away polished. You walk away dazed and kind of blinking and realizing you're still
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here. And survival doesn't always feel like triumph. It's really weird, like I'm feeling that.
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In some ways, sometimes it just feels like breath in your lungs and the slow work of figuring out
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what's next, or you do it with the aftershocks in your life around you, which I'm still feeling
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on a personal level. But yes, stunned and alive is a great way of describing it. Yeah, definitely.
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Well, I am glad you are both stunned and alive, my friend. Through the 20th century, tsunamis remain
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deadly. The 1908 Messina earthquake in tsunami killed over 80,000 in Sicily and Calabria.
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After the 1946 Aleutian Islands, tsunami killed more than 170 in Hilo, Hawaii, the world's first
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tsunami warning system was established there. Survivors recalled the ocean made a sound like
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a hundred freight trains. By the time we started running, the water was at our heels. The 1960 Chilean
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earthquake produced a tsunami that raced across the Pacific, striking Hawaii, Japan, New Zealand,
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and the Philippines, causing hundreds more deaths and widespread destruction. Despite repeated
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tragedy, the science behind tsunamis remained poorly understood until well into the 20th century
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and effective mitigation was rare. Japan led the research and development of countermeasures,
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adopting education campaigns and constructing seawalls in vulnerable areas as early as the 1890s.
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Historical accounts, oral traditions, and modern science all attest that tsunamis shaped lives
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in societies long before the Boxing Day disaster, each event reinforcing a hard lesson when the
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sea retreats run to high ground and do not look back. Before Boxing Day 2004, my understanding of a
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tsunami included the famous painting called the Great Wave, Off Kanagawa, from the 1820s,
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by Japanese artist Hokusai. I used to mistakenly refer to them as a title wave, but the two are not
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the same thing. The effects of the gravitational interactions between the Sun, Moon, and Earth on
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the ocean cause title waves. Earthquakes, sub-oceanic landslides, volcanic eruptions, and extraterrestrial
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collisions such as a massive meteor strike can generate tsunamis. The tragic events unfolding
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around the Indian Ocean that day gave the world a quick harsh lesson in the power and mechanics of
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tsunamis. Tsunamis are a common danger after deep sea earthquakes. The nations around the Pacific
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Ring of Fire have a sophisticated tsunami warning system in place. However, in 2004, there was no
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such system in the region around the Indian Ocean. Millions of people in 14 countries had no inkling
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they were about to learn firsthand about a tsunami's power. Just before 8am local time, 0-0-5-8-GMT,
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on December 26, 2004, the third most powerful earthquake ever recorded struck off the west coast
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of Samatra. The quake originated near the island of Simulaway and reached between 9.1 and 9.3
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in magnitude. The epicenter was approximately 30 kilometers beneath the northern Indian Ocean,
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where the Indian tectonic plate moving northeast at a rate of 5 centimeters per year is being forced
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under the Burmese microplate of the Sun to plate. For more than 8 minutes, the Earth ruptured
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northward along the ocean floor at 2.5 kilometers per second, unzipping a fault over 1,200 kilometers
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long. The Indian plate jumped upward and westward by as much as 20 meters, displacing massive
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amounts of rock and releasing energy about 1,500 times greater than the atomic bomb dropped on
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Hiroshima. Simatran's near the epicenter experienced the most intense shaking. The tremors
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traveled for thousands of kilometers. People felt the quake as far away as 4,000 kilometers
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northwest in India, Sri Lanka, and the Maldives. Even those 5,000 kilometers north in Thailand,
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Myanmar, and Bangladesh, as well as the easternmost parts of Indonesia, felt the movement.
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seismic instruments worldwide detected the earthquake, which was powerful enough to trigger more
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minor quakes as far away as Alaska. Charles Ammon, associate professor of geosciences at Penn
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State University, told CNN, globally this earthquake was large enough to basically vibrate the whole
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planet as much as half an inch or a centimeter. Everywhere we had instruments we could see motions.
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The quake's duration was also unusually long and to that point it was the longest ever measured.
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Ammon also said, normally a small earthquake might last less than a second, a moderate-sized
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earthquake might last a few seconds. This earthquake lasted between 500 and 600 seconds.
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The undersea megathrust quake displaced massive volumes of water, sending tsunami waves racing
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outward at jet plane speeds up to 500 miles per hour in deep water. Waves as high as 30 meters
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struck hardest in Ache province, Indonesia within minutes of the quake. Villages on Samatra's
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western coast were obliterated as waves swept people in debris up to two kilometers inland.
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The tsunami reached Thailand's resort beaches about two hours after the earthquake. Here tourists
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and locals, many unaware of the danger, watched the sea recede before the first wave hit.
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Some tried to flee and others were caught filming or taking pictures. The water crashed into hotels
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and shops, breaking through walls and windows drowning those unable to escape in time. The scene
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repeated itself across the region. In Sri Lanka, India and the Maldives, massive waves reached far
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inland scattering homes and families. As the hours passed, the tsunami continued its devastation.
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The waves hit Samalia in East Africa, 12 hours and 8,000 kilometers from the epicenter.
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Even the coast of South Africa and Antarctica was touched by the energy of the waves,
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evidence of the disaster's reach. Throughout the Indian Ocean Basin,
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infrastructure was obliterated, roads, homes, hospitals and businesses vanished in minutes.
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Entire communities disappeared. The human toll was catastrophic. At least 227,000 people died
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across 14 countries. Indonesia alone lost more than 165,000 especially in a Che. Sri Lanka
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recorded more than 35,000 deaths. India over 16,000 and Thailand over 8,000 including thousands
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of tourists visiting for the holidays. Thousands more people were reported missing and 1.75 million
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people were driven from their homes across the affected countries. In the aftermath, many survivors
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were left without clean water, shelter or access to health care. The tsunami's destruction spurred
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a global humanitarian response with billions donated to relief and rebuilding efforts.
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Long-term consequences included economic losses. Indonesia lost the equivalent of an entire
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province's GDP and widespread environmental damage. The disaster remains the deadliest tsunami
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in recorded history and one of the most devastating natural disasters of the modern era.
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The economic impact on the coastal villages that were hit the hardest was also immense.
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The fishery was the primary source of employment in many of the settlements wiped off the map
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by the tsunami. The waves destroyed tens of thousands of fishing vessels. The waves washed away
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much of the infrastructure supporting the industry, including local shops that sold those fish as
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food to locals in some of the region's most impoverished communities. In Sri Lanka alone,
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And we are back Matthew, thoughts so far. Yeah, I've been to many places for the tsunami struck.
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In Pukat, I stayed more than once at the Amon Peri Resort. It's just above Surin Beach.
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I got quite a bit with people on Kamala Beach and Patong Beach and all these beaches got hit
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like really badly. And the last visit I had was I think about just the winter before this one.
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And in Sri Lanka as well. I don't know if you know about this coastal train that goes from
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Colombo to Gal, got hit by the wave and there were 1700 people on the train.
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Right, yeah. So it was the largest train disaster in history. Most of them died. And having been there
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doesn't make the disaster mine, but it changes I think how I see it. You know, the images I saw
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in the news weren't anonymous to me. You know, they're tied to people I spoke with and laughed with
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and shared meals with. And you know, travelers like me, you know, we come and go, but for locals,
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this is life and home and livelihood. And you know, I often think of this one Thai guy. He
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went by the name John. This super friendly guy on the beach had like this little beach hut restaurant.
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And I hung out with him every day and his little kids would like serve right and his wife worked with
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him and they would have been right there. And you know, I'll never know if people like John and his
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family survived. And that uncertainties what lingers, you know, when this happened, it hit me
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quite hard just because I knew the places, right? Yeah. Yeah. The rest of the world watched events
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unfold in real time through live television news feeds and internet updates. Many stepped up to help.
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We were particularly proud of Canada's response as private citizens alone contributed
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$230 million Canadian dollars to tsunami relief and Canadian businesses contributed another 36 million
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Canadian dollars. Those numbers were matched nearly dollar for dollar by the government of Canada
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with provinces kicking in more over the next few months. Citizens from 55 countries worldwide
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donated more than nine billion US dollars. The World Bank donated another one billion US dollars.
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Canadians caught in the path of the 2004 Boxing Day tsunami experience scenes of terror,
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devastation, and remarkable survival. Christine Lang of Vancouver is among the most visible Canadian
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survivors with her memories detailed in interviews and anniversary retrospectives. At the time of
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the disaster she was on Kofi Phi in Thailand with Rubina Wong, her brother's girlfriend. They were
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shopping on Main Street oblivious to any danger when she saw a Thai woman holding a bucket of water
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screaming. Lang later recalled people started running inland. From where we were, we could not see
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the ocean. We could not see the beach, so we had absolutely no idea what was going on. Nobody was
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saying run this way, come here, or it's a tsunami. To Lang the first sound seemed like war. It was a
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horrific noise and it sounded to me like airplanes and I thought maybe the island was being a
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attack, so I looked to the sky. It was perfectly clear, perfectly blue and sunny. She and Rubina joined
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the fleeing crowds. As water began racing inland, Lang found she couldn't lift her feet to run anymore.
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Rubina had veered down a side street, Lang never saw her alive again. She described what happened
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next. The next thing I saw a massive black wall of water, not like a cresting wave, a black
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wall of water, maybe three to four stories high coming toward the island. And then it just blasted
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me right off my feet and I was tumbling in the wave. It was like being tossed in a massive washing
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machine with the entire contents of the island. I didn't have any sensation except for complete
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utter fear. Lang was swept away but managed to spot a house and a man on the roof. She said,
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I made it my mission to climb over floating debris to the balcony of this house to refuge.
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There was a Thai man on the top of the roof and a Thai woman and he pulled me up onto the roof
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and from there I could see the one hotel on the island. As the water slowly receded she crawled
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over wreckage to the hotel where others pulled her onto a balcony. There were lots of injured people
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there, survivors helping survivors. They were pulling bodies into the first and second floors of
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the hotel. There were people with horrific injuries. There was blood everywhere. There was blood
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all over me. She recalled. Lang joined others on the hotel roof surveying the destruction.
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And it honestly seemed like it was the end of the world. I had no idea what was going on. What
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had happened to the rest of the world? What had happened to Puket? What had happened everywhere
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else? We were completely cut off without power. Everything was down. She described the memory as
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fresh even years later. The whole experience is very vivid. It's like a movie in my head. Your
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brain doesn't forget that. It doesn't seem like ten years at all. In her account to CBC in 2014
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she added, the water was motionless at that point and I remember looking for some way to get out
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to save myself because I needed air. I looked up and I saw in the distance a small circle of light.
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My heart was jackhammering and my lungs were ready to burst and I just kept swimming for that
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circle of light coming from the surface and eventually I got there. Once at the surface she reached
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the roof of a house, was helped by locals and later made her way to a surviving hotel and onto
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the pier where she and others waited for evacuation. Looking back she said, I'm not going to die here.
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I'm not going to die here. The carnage in the harbor caused a shock that was hard to process.
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The surface of the water was covered with suitcases and clothing and rooftops and all kinds of debris
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that was picked up by the tsunami and pushed off the island and into the water. I think we were all
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in shock. Nothing seemed real. Lang's brother who survived ultimately identified Rubina Wong's body
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and Thailand by her tattoos. Lang said the event gave her 10 bonus years and a determination to
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never take life for granted. She declined returning to Thailand on the anniversary, choosing instead
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to visit the ocean in Vancouver and remember all who were lost. Across the tsunami zone, Canadian
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saw terror and heartbreak. Jebnes and Rottenham, a Canadian Tamil, lost his two nieces and his aunt
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in the disaster. In an interview, he described being swept from his home in Sri Lanka by the incoming
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wave and surviving by clinging to debris in the flooding waters. It was like a scene from a nightmare.
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The water came so quickly and then my family was separated in an instant. You don't even think
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you just try to survive. He later told Tamil Guardian reporters. You don't even think you just
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try to survive. That kind of says everything. Yeah, right. In disasters like this, people don't
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move like characters do in a movie, right? Weng choices. No. They move completely on instinct.
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And I think survival on something like this big happens so suddenly, so any planning or identity or
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language. And I'd imagine it's just breath to breath. And the fallout is once you've survived,
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having to live with what was lost in those seconds. So like your head, you're just trying to grab
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on anything to survive. And then you come out of it and like family and home and community's gone.
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And that's the part we rarely see on the news. Yep, definitely.
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Dr. Nelson Ames, a Canadian physician was on vacation in Thailand when the tsunami struck.
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He wrote in a letter for the British Columbia Medical Journal. I was woken by the shaking,
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but it was not until the screams and the rush of water that I understood something was terribly
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wrong. People were running. You could hear them yelling in different languages. The water was
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everywhere carrying trees, cars, parts of buildings, so many injured people. We started helping where
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we could improvising with what we had. Some Canadians worked tirelessly to help survivors.
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The Canadian High Commission in Sri Lanka coordinated emergency relief for Canadians and local
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victims. Diplomats led by the High Commissioner set up emergency stations at Colombo Airport and
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local hospitals to assist the injured, help with paperwork and support families of missing Canadians.
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Canadian search and rescue specialists secured passage home for dozen stranded in hospitals and
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hotels. While most visitors returned home with only memories and scars, some Canadians deeply
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moved, built lasting connections. In the years after the tsunami, Canadians formed partnerships
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with communities in Thailand and Sri Lanka for ongoing recovery and commemoration projects.
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When I got an email from a photographer friend of mine days after the quake and tsunami,
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the events hit home for me. I learned that a couple I knew was missing. John and Jackie Nill,
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both 54, owned a beautiful home and property in North Vancouver, BC. The Nills were kind enough
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to allow us to use their swimming pool as a photo location in July of 2004 when I was producing
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a bathing suit calendar. I recall them as kind, happy people and proud parents of grown boys,
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Patrick, David and Christian. John was a musical composer and he ran a recording studio in North
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Vancouver. John and Jackie Nill were deeply tied to family art and music. The Nills family was
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close knit, sharing many milestones and holidays. Both John and Jackie cherished travel,
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but Thailand held a special place in their hearts, becoming a favored destination that they revisited
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often over the years. As a friend later remembered, Thailand was almost a second home for John and Jackie.
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They loved the beaches there, the people and the warmth. John Nill started his career in the security
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industry, retiring in 1991 from an alarm company his own family had created in Western Canada.
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Retirement was not the end of his professional pursuits. He was also a talented composer and music
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producer owning and operating a recording studio in North Vancouver. John's early musical ambitions
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began in the 1970s and he later co-founded the Jazz Fusion Group Passage in the 1990s. He worked
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as a producer with several notable Canadian artists, including gospel singer Marcus Mosley and other
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prominent musicians. John's colleagues respected him for his creativity talent and unfailing kindness.
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Jackie Nill matched her husband's artistic energy with her own creative work as a watercolor artist.
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Her paintings often reflected her love for travel and the natural world, showing scenes from across
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British Columbia and beyond. Friends described her as deeply caring devoted to her family and
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passionate about her art. Together, John and Jackie were remembered as the kind of people who made
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any gathering better, warm, generous and open-hearted, said Terry McGuire, John's sister.
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For Christmas in 2004, John and Jackie decided to return to Kau Lakh, a picturesque coastal region
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in Thailand renowned for its stunning beaches. They phoned their sons on Christmas Day to wish
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them well and share their happiness at being back in a place they so cherished. Early the next
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morning they set out for the beaches they had so many times before, carrying their digital camera
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to capture the day. They were enjoying a great vacation, ready to relax and soak in the sun.
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Wrote Kevin Caruso reflecting on the last day of their lives. Their final moments are documented in
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an extraordinary and tragic series of photographs discovered after the tsunami. John and Jackie's
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digital camera, although battered, was found by Christian Palette, an American missionary as he
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walked along the devastated beach weeks after the disaster. Miraculously, the camera's memory card
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survived. Once retrieved and its images viewed, the card revealed a record of the Nils last morning,
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a series of pictures showing ocean views, beach scenes and most strikingly the approach of the
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tsunami wave. The photographs depict a tranquil morning, swimmers in the water, people standing on
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the sand, and then a growing unease as onlookers notice the shape of a dark wave gathering off
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the timeline recorded on the camera shows a devastatingly short progression from 820 AM when
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the beach looked normal to 831 AM when a massive wave had arrived. I don't know why they didn't run
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said their son, Christian Nils, either they knew they couldn't or they didn't know the power of
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the wave. Other family members and friends have described the impact of these images. Patrick Nils,
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their middle son, said, initially I couldn't bring myself to look at them. However, after viewing them
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a few more times I was able to really observe, the waves were incredibly massive and powerful,
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and people were merely standing there. He found comfort imagining his parents embracing each other
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aware of what was about to happen and taking those pictures. They must have hoped that if someone
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found the camera there would be something left to remember them by. For days after news of the
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tsunami broke the Nilsons waited anxiously searching for confirmation that hope faded as their
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parents remained missing and reports came in from international authorities. John's brother-in-law
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Roy McGuire flew to Thailand to search for them and later reflected it was a chance to get that
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sense of closure that so many thousands with missing loved ones will never have on December 31st.
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2004 John Nils' body was found and Jackie's was recovered two weeks later on January 13th, 2005.
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After their remains were identified their sons received the camera's memory card from Christian
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Pyle delivered in person to the Nils family's Vancouver home. The images on that card became
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both a record and a tribute. This is more closure than we thought was possible," said Patrick Nils.
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I know they're together. They were always together. The Nils' cremated remains were returned to
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Canada with a family memorial service held in Vancouver the following month. Their loss was deeply
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felt across their community and within Canada's music and art circles. As their legacy the Nils family
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and friends established the Nils Thailand fund raising over $60,000 to build a school in a community
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close to their hearts in Kao Loc, Thailand. I didn't feel sadness for them.
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I know they were in a place they loved with people they loved," said Sister-in-law Terry McGuire.
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It's very sad for us who are left here without them. There's a huge void in our lives.
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John and Jackie Nils are remembered not only for their creative and professional contributions but
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also as loving parents, devoted partners, and generous friends. Their story captured in their last
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photographs and by the words of those who knew them is both a testament to lives well-lived and a
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reminder of the fragility of life. They were always together," Patrick said, and they still are.
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You know what's remarkable to me is the openness that the Nils family showed here.
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They could have seen Thailand only as the place where their parents died sort of this distant
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backdrop to a private Canadian tragedy. But instead they understood that locals had lost a lot more
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in a lot of ways. Whole families, whole communities. What I love about this family is that their
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grief didn't make them turn inward or treat this tragedy as theirs alone. It made them actually
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reach out. Building a school on Kau Lack was a way of saying this loss connects us. It doesn't
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divide us. They showed this gesture of solidarity and love for fellow human beings, not just sort of
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memorial to their parents. They just sound like such a fascinating family to me.
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The people who I met, the Nils were such a nice couple. They were very kind. They seem like
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cool people. They were. They were. He was so laid back. We're shooting bathing suit models in
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his swimming pool for a calendar. He was just so chill about it. He was like, you kids have fun
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kind of thing. He was just happy to be somebody who provided us a location.
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Were you shooting the swimsuit calendar for Sports Illustrated or for Bowdog?
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Oh for beer. No, no. Bowdog was gambling. Okay. Yeah. Gambling and bikinis. Okay. Yeah.
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Surprise.
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At least 15 Canadians died in the Boxing Day tsunami of 2004, most while vacationing in Thailand
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and Sri Lanka during the holiday season. The dead included entire families, couples, and solo
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travelers who, like thousands of others in the region, were swept away with little warning as the waves
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surged ashore. Jebneson, Rottenham, a Canadian visiting family in Sri Lanka, suffered the loss of
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two nieces in an ant during the disaster. In his account, Rottenham described being carried off
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by the powerful wave, surviving only by clinging to debris and later discovering the deaths of his
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relatives. He said, everything happened so fast. The water separated us instantly. In the aftermath,
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all I could do was search and hope. The process of identifying the Canadian dead was slow and
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distressing, often complicated by the destruction of infrastructure and the loss of documentation.
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According to Foreign Affairs Canada, consular staff worked day and night supporting families of
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the missing and confirmed dead, helping with repatriation and offering what little comfort they could.
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In some cases, entire family groups left behind only memories and personal effects found on the
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beach. Temporary shrines and memorial services spring up across Thailand and Sri Lanka with ceremonies
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attended by locals, survivors, and representatives from the embassies. The gravity of the loss was
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reflected in the words of then ambassador to Thailand who said, the loss of our citizens is a wound
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that reaches all the way home. We share in the grief of families who lost loved ones far from home
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and in such shocking, unforeseeable circumstances, vigils and commemorations for these Canadian victims
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have marked each anniversary of the event, often held in communities across Canada, as well as
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on the beaches where the tsunami struck. For relatives, the distance and suddenness of the tragedy
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have made morning an ongoing process as described by those who returned to Thailand each year to
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lay flowers at memorial sites and reconnect with the places where their loved ones spent their
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final days. Their stories, while sometimes overshadowed by the larger toll in Asia, remain embedded
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in the wider tragedy, part of the global wound left by the tsunami. Each Canadian victim left
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behind families, colleagues and friends who have worked over the years to memorialize them,
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ensuring that those who died so far from home are not forgotten and that their loss echoes beyond
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the headlines. And that's it for dark-patine episode 391 Canadian Connections, the 2004 Boxing Day
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tsunami.
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That's right, it's time for voicemails. You can leave us a message at 1-877-327-5786 or 1-877-DARK-PTN.
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We'd love to hear from you. Let's see who called us this week. Here's our voicemail for the week.
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Yes, it's wondering if you had done anything on the Robert Lattimer case. I remember it's quite well,
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absolute tragedy that was the life of his daughter. On side note,
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Autiasbor and I wrote a song about the case and it was really not much to it. I don't think, but
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I think it's worth mentioning. In his situation, I don't know what I would do. I don't
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anyways have gotten... All righty. Well, yeah, the Robert Lattimer case, if for those who aren't aware,
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he was convicted of second-degree murder in the death of his daughter, Tracy Lynn.
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And it caused a national controversy concerning the definition and ethics of euthanasia as well
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as the rights of people with disabilities. And this case, I don't feel I'm qualified to tackle it.
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I honestly don't. Yeah, for the caller, Mike and I have actually talked about this case.
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Yeah. A lot of times. It's so fraught that I just... I kind of don't want to do it either,
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just because there's no answer. There's no clarity. It's difficult.
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Right. It's so difficult. It's so difficult. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to say he did the right
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thing. I don't want to say he did the wrong thing because honestly, it's not on my business.
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It's not on my business. As somebody though who's been through made with my father, he was
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cognizant of his decision. He made the decision. He was completely competent person at the time.
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And to me, that, you can't argue with that. But yeah, Lattimer's case is so tough. And if you want
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to listen to the Aussie Osborne song, it's just called Lattimer's Mercy. Just go have a listen.
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I had no idea that Latt-Aziroda song about that. He definitely did.
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Yeah, this is not one I don't think that we will ever cover. And like I say, for the reasons that
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I am so not qualified to do with this. And we don't blame me for asking.
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Yeah, oh no. We've debated it as well. Yeah. Thanks for calling in.
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It's one of those ones where like, you know, we've been torn and had discussions and kind of
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decided no. Yeah, it's a, yeah, it's one of those ones where I don't know. I, yeah, I don't, I don't
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want to be making any judgments on that case at all. I really don't. What do you think our,
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our caller does for a living Matthew and where do they live? I have suspicions, but
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because I can see like an exchange and all like this stuff. I can't see the exchange. Yeah.
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I think he's in outside of Calgary near the Donnis, near that dinosaur town. Okay, Drum Heller,
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near Drum Heller. I want to go there so badly. Yeah. And I think he's a historian.
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Oh, interesting. I'm picturing like he has a library at home with lots of books, lots and lots and lots of
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books. Okay. Yeah. Well, there you go. Well, I have a library with lots of books, but I'm not a
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historian of any description. You have mostly Japanese picture books, don't you? No.
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I have a little shelf of manga. Yes, I do. Just, but it's only one shelf. Most of my books are
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supernatural paranormal, uh, locality stuff. My mind are mostly, uh, philosophy and death.
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Well, there's that too. I have lots of that too. So, hey, look, we have common things, Matthew.
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Anyway, that's it for this week's voicemails. Again, you can leave us one at 1877-327-5786,
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shit in our hats. If you're stumped for what to chat with us about, a quick story is welcome.
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We do have a patron this week, and our patron's name is Jennifer. She didn't leave a last name.
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She didn't leave a place where she lives. So, I'm curious about Jennifer. Thank you for being a
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Patreon Jennifer. Yes, thank you. Um, where does Jennifer live? And what do she do? Matthew? Jennifer,
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her last name is Bobenny. Oh, Jenny Jenny Bobenny. Yeah, I can. Gotcha. Gotcha. So, Jennifer,
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Bobenny. Jennifer, Bobenny is a poet. She's a poet, but does she even realize it? She does. She's not
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a lot of cheese and Wisconsin. Is there? Yeah, an Edgene and Jeffrey Dahmer. Happy days.
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Jeffrey Dahmer, is that Wisconsin? Yes, it was. No, that's Milwaukee. Yeah, where's Milwaukee, Matthew?
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Uh, Milwaukee is in Ohio. Is that? No. Okay. I don't know these things. Well, you don't need to.
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This isn't like, like a Matthew's geography podcast. You don't need to know those things.
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Yes, now Matthew's brain is turning. Is it near Pennsylvania? I don't know. I don't think so.
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Well, you're Mr. obvious geography guru here. Well, no.
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No, Pennsylvania is more East. Okay, I'm not good at sort of those bits when you get past Chicago.
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I'm assuming it's past Chicago. Well, it's kind of in that area in that region. I kind of, I know,
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I know, I knew, I know like the main, like New England and New York, all those middle states over
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to Detroit, over to Chicago and then down a little bit and then I know Florida. Right. And then I
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fluck in our USA's Weiner, Florida. Right. And then I know Texas California pretty well in terms
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of where the cities are there. But the rest of it sort of, oh, and I know Arizona, because my grandmother
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that there, the rest of it's in a Nigma. Well, there you go. Maybe our American friends can call in
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and help Matthew with his geography and help me with mine, frankly, but anyway.
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