103: Future's End (Parts 1 and 2), or The One Where Tuvok is A Freakasaurus

Interactive Transcript

spk_0 Hi, I'm John. Hi, I'm Olivia. Hello, I'm Iris Jay. At this time we've watched Futures End and now we're going to argue about whether it's going to make us quit Star Trek.

spk_0 I mean, I didn't hate it. I don't know what you mean. I don't. What was the little thing at the end? He called him a mattress.

spk_0 There was some Paris got a pixie manic dream girl and I'm happy for him. Is that a crime? I don't think so. I mean, I'm pro grade Robinson.

spk_0 He was just he was just so excited to finally be in his element as just a 90s kind of guy, you know.

spk_0 It was very much Tom Paris design filled years.

spk_0 I enjoyed it as a 10th of Voyager to do something with itself, but it was very much once again Voyager writes that so when nothing really happens.

spk_0 Things don't have to happen when it's actually a vibe. Okay. Voyager was a vibe for once. There were silly closing silly people. There was a very theatrical villain slash random dude.

spk_0 What's lots of love? Henry Starling was just like what a bastard. I forgot my nose.

spk_0 So I think it's really it's really great that we ended up recording this today because we're like I think we're like four days out from the actual in cannon date of the bell riots.

spk_0 It's in two days. Yeah, two days. It'll probably come. The better I probably would have.

spk_0 Acroix happened by the time. As in the year is correct. It's this year. So I think it's funny that like.

spk_0 I should guys. That's fucking me. Yeah, 2024. Same year as Irish reunification.

spk_0 But I just think it's interesting that like obviously this episode's Genesis probably came from Star Trek 4th of Voyager home, the woman with the whales, which is like a really, really good star trek movie.

spk_0 Where they go to modern day of the 80s. And so it's interesting to see DS9 and Voyager kind of do the same idea, but with different flavors of that that I feel is really definitive of what both shows are.

spk_0 Yeah, there's something about how voyages one.

spk_0 Managers to say less of the time travel plot than an original series time travel episode like somehow features end makes less social commentary than even assignment Earth does.

spk_0 Okay, John at the end of the day, it is just Voyager. Now I had a good time for once, but it is just a little guy.

spk_0 It's just a little guy. And I'm so sorry to all the Voyager fans. I am dissonally once again.

spk_0 But yeah, it doesn't say a lot, but there are there are details in it that the reason I picked this episode was because there are like.

spk_0 There are like details in this episode, like watching it again. I was reminded of how many little bits in it that overall it's it's a romp whatever.

spk_0 But if you really get into the needy gritty of it, which I assume we're doing because this is a podcast about Star Trek. There are some bits that drive me up the wall with causality in this.

spk_0 I mean, my main feeling about it is really this was two episodes.

spk_0 Like, how did justify shooting at Griffith Observatory and renting that big old Chevy Silverado pickup truck and stuff?

spk_0 Why did they do the Waker Siege? Why was the Waker Siege? What was the purpose of that plot?

spk_0 They wanted to do a tribute to Steven Spielberg's classic first movie The Dual where a giant truck decides to murder a man.

spk_0 At least I got to see two of us in human clothes, civilian clothes and you know what?

spk_0 Yeah, it's two of us going to do right away.

spk_0 Hot, okay. I think there are a lot of shining gems about this episode. I'm getting defensive over nonsense.

spk_0 Before we do the shining gems, Olivia, we have nearly barreled right over our guest questions.

spk_0 And because I don't know the segway and don't care to learn, we're just going to do them. So Iris, we're the first time we want Star Trek.

spk_0 Oh gosh, it was pretty late in life. It was after I got together with my delightful partner, Nero Villagayo Sirraile.

spk_0 He had seen a bunch of Star Trek and I hadn't.

spk_0 So we started watching through DS9 and you know, might as well start at the top.

spk_0 And then we watched through a whole bunch of TNG after that. Then we went through Voyager.

spk_0 And then around them was about the time that I mean after that we had known Hyde and so we got into discovery and etc etc.

spk_0 We watched the movies and stuff. So yeah, I'm familiar with the franchise. I will admit to all of the fans listening out there that I...

spk_0 All five, all five people in this podcast. We love you guys.

spk_0 Thank you for listening. But I haven't been able to keep up with Star Trek as of late because there's just a lot coming out.

spk_0 Oh, that's fine. I live here still haven't finished the first season.

spk_0 And I never will respectfully. Oh man.

spk_0 Because what reason have they given me that? I haven't started it. So don't worry.

spk_0 Every episode of Trash 2 Worlds could be on Iquit Star Trek except for the pilot.

spk_0 Everything else you've got to bring it to me guys. I can rant about all of them.

spk_0 You'll get an hour and a half out of every single episode. We did the news for you. You don't look like a wall.

spk_0 I will do any of them except the pilot. I will. I will.

spk_0 I think it's great we got like Voyager 2.0.

spk_0 Hey, at least Voyager was groundbreaking. At least Voyager and the whole captain.

spk_0

spk_0 With Asimba we just have the first egotistical cash. We haven't really been chatting.

spk_0 Oh god.

spk_0 Oh my gosh. What is that?

spk_0

spk_0 In with better hair.

spk_0 At least chatner has the kissboard.

spk_0 But on terrible things in this you're actually surprising in recent first runs in Star Trek.

spk_0 Was there a quit moment where you were shown an episode and you were granted every decision you'd made up to that point?

spk_0 So there's this show called Star Trek Picard.

spk_0 I don't I don't need to tell you about why that show is wasted potential.

spk_0 I would say I could write a book on it except I have a friend who did.

spk_0 That and also I really I really like the first two seasons of Discovery.

spk_0 I thought they were really awesome.

spk_0 I love Michael Burnham's character.

spk_0 I loved the whole casting crew and I love that they were doing weird stuff.

spk_0 And season three it started so strong this idea of where stuck way in the future.

spk_0 It's wild. There's no rules anymore.

spk_0 Starfleet is very weak. We've kind of got to feel out our own frontier sort of vibe with this.

spk_0 But the third season really didn't kind of live up to those promises.

spk_0 And then for when I get to get to the whole thing.

spk_0 Yeah. And I feel bad saying that because it's like well this is that's the one where they're really really queer in that season.

spk_0 I'm like yeah, get trans, dump binary.

spk_0 Whoa, shit.

spk_0 But like you kind of just boring stuff with it.

spk_0 I don't know. They did confirm that the food on Starfleet chips is made out of poop though.

spk_0 So that is very crucial. I appreciate them for that.

spk_0 And thank God someone let us know.

spk_0 Finally they said it.

spk_0 Yeah, what we gonna do unless we knew that.

spk_0 I didn't.

spk_0 Yeah, I didn't know that I just suspect it.

spk_0 I just just dreadfully suspected.

spk_0 But yeah.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Well, I mean, the Starfleet Voyager in itself kind of the quick moment.

spk_0 Yes, moving on.

spk_0 I was supposed to book a car in the Voyager, but I want to be clear.

spk_0 I love Voyager.

spk_0 I'm a Voyager Apologist.

spk_0 Yeah, I think it's it's loads are low.

spk_0 Voyager Apologist, but it's high or high.

spk_0 Can I just say you guys you guys say that you're going extinct.

spk_0 There's not enough Voyager Apologist and lovers.

spk_0 There's thousands of you every day.

spk_0 I'm hearing you like your apology speaker.

spk_0 You know what?

spk_0 Oh, Voyager Puss, you like deer.

spk_0 You need more predators in the world in the natural environment.

spk_0 It's like a life.

spk_0 I'm just a straight head of a central white man.

spk_0 You're based that you're all right.

spk_0 You're everywhere.

spk_0 It's the same thing.

spk_0 And Enterprise fans were nearly hunted to extinction.

spk_0 They were only fathered captivity.

spk_0 You guys are out there eating tree farms.

spk_0 Well, you know, it's like it's like it's like Ted Turner in the bison.

spk_0 The Voyager fans were almost extinct for a while, but breading the captivity of online fandom.

spk_0 They have since grown back in popularity.

spk_0 And so now we have herds roaming the fertile plains of the Trek fandom.

spk_0 And obviously what needs to be hold of the government sponsored couch.

spk_0 Everybody get a shotgun.

spk_0 Had a bright red shirt and go out.

spk_0 You get a $50 bounty every time you provide a Voyager bounty that chuckles has no character.

spk_0 Oh, gosh.

spk_0 What an empty casual of a man.

spk_0 And speaking of chuckles, the empty character.

spk_0 So we get started with this episode.

spk_0 Sure.

spk_0 Olivia.

spk_0 Guide us into the most boring intro.

spk_0 Guide us into our intro.

spk_0 I said I watched two episodes.

spk_0 How do we begin?

spk_0 We're on the ship.

spk_0 Things are all great.

spk_0 And suddenly something goes wrong.

spk_0 That's my, that's my really, really specific intro.

spk_0 You are useless to me.

spk_0 Yeah, thank you.

spk_0 We actually don't be golless.

spk_0 We begin in 1967.

spk_0 And on a sound stage, it's meant to look like at like the Rockies with a hippie.

spk_0 What's it you a phone lamp and saying the thing all hippies say?

spk_0 Oh, yeah.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And he's drumming on little parts to license free.

spk_0 Vagely 60 sounding music.

spk_0 And he's like, yeah.

spk_0 He's having the time of his life.

spk_0 Seven, seven, five, eight, eight, eight, eight, eight.

spk_0 And he doesn't even say his legs.

spk_0 What's the point?

spk_0 See what happens.

spk_0 But then we can't commit to campness.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 We, we, does Janeway attempting to play tennis, counters camp?

spk_0 I think it's something that play tennis in the ready room, counters camp.

spk_0 Yeah, Janeway playing tennis.

spk_0 She's serving that ball.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 She's serving that ball at the ball.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And she, like, I took, I took, it's worse, she just pubble the insides of the face.

spk_0 I took extensive notes throughout these.

spk_0 She has like several flower vases set up in her ready room while she's like hucking a ball around.

spk_0 This, this feels like, again, bizzaro sisco with the baseball thing where she's just like, yeah, sure.

spk_0 I'll do sports in my office.

spk_0 I don't give a shit.

spk_0 It's my office.

spk_0 Yeah, but like the tennis never goes anywhere.

spk_0 But the sisco baseball thing is like a lot of set up and pay off.

spk_0 And like, he's not throwing the baseball around in the office.

spk_0 Yeah, it's not like she, she, she, he's throwing the baseball and just throws it at Major Kira.

spk_0 So she comes to the door once.

spk_0 Anyway, but so let's talk about tennis and then, um, Voyager is stopped by a time ship that looks like,

spk_0 I don't know, it looks like they spent $20 building the model.

spk_0 Is this a little guy?

spk_0 This is a little guy with a white man on board who wants to kill the ball.

spk_0 He's got, he's got such a haircut.

spk_0 It's like, he decided to shave the front half of his head and then the back half is like fully,

spk_0 it's like evil Betty from Kung Pao and other fist.

spk_0 It's a real bowl of 29th century solution to hair.

spk_0 Well, it's sort of like, it's that muffin cup that all British white boys have,

spk_0 except that he hasn't had that top of his hair perv.

spk_0 Yeah, it's a very specific reference.

spk_0 Anyway, if you're in the head, but right now it's just so important.

spk_0 I'll take your word for it.

spk_0 Yeah, and I forgot until I was tempted to be a re-cars captain.

spk_0 I will die before I get that shitty hair cut.

spk_0 It's so bad.

spk_0 Anyway, Canada Brax is like, yeah, you guys blew up Earth in 500 years, so I'm going to have to kill you.

spk_0 Sorry, whole still while I burn you.

spk_0 It's obviously they don't hold still.

spk_0 He doesn't burn them and they get thrown back in time.

spk_0 I think he was very polite.

spk_0 He was very polite to pass it.

spk_0

spk_0 Could that be like when they throw them back to the past?

spk_0 And they end up in pre-blare out, they end up with a clon-to-the-ministration.

spk_0 Pre-blare, Aero Los Angeles.

spk_0 Would they go back to your time when Princess Diada wasn't alive?

spk_0 How incredible.

spk_0 Oh, shit.

spk_0 Maybe that's why I like this episode so much.

spk_0 I felt her presence.

spk_0 What, sorry.

spk_0 What, since when were you a Princess Diada person?

spk_0 Our die?

spk_0 It's not their die.

spk_0 It's our die.

spk_0 I, I, no, our refuse.

spk_0 I had this conversation on Monday.

spk_0 Like, she would have loved me.

spk_0

spk_0 What?

spk_0 We have no proof to the contrary, so.

spk_0 Iris, are you aware of the

spk_0 traditional session with a dead rich lady?

spk_0 Oh, I mean, I know that-

spk_0 I'm not the queen, the other one.

spk_0 She's the only royal they made a beady baby for.

spk_0 So, I kind of get the feeling-

spk_0 They made a beady baby of Princess Diada.

spk_0 They made a beady baby after Princess Diada died commemorating her death, yeah.

spk_0 And it's super expensive and it will change your life we had one.

spk_0 One of the rarest.

spk_0 How much is it worth?

spk_0 I just have a write down.

spk_0 You're looking this up.

spk_0 You should look it up.

spk_0 It's real.

spk_0 It's a day of the time for the seventh third.

spk_0 A memory-tweet-clude.

spk_0 Dada beady babies in the show notes.

spk_0 I'm getting the price up right now.

spk_0 Oh my god, it's 600,000 pounds.

spk_0 I'm not even joking.

spk_0 Jesus Christ.

spk_0

spk_0 There's one on sale for 600,000.

spk_0 There's one on sale for 384,000.

spk_0 And there's another one for 3,000.

spk_0 Wait, shit, guys, should we get it?

spk_0 I'm just going to tweet from this podcast Twitter account who wants to buy the 600,000 pound Diana beady baby.

spk_0 Guys, I think we could get rich.

spk_0 One of them is only 3k.

spk_0 Let's drop one k each and resell it.

spk_0 The 600k.

spk_0 We'll talk about it.

spk_0 I can name 50 things.

spk_0 I'd rather spend a thousand pounds on it.

spk_0 And none of them are a tiny, Diana beady baby.

spk_0 It's incredible.

spk_0 I'm seeing a news article here from the independent.

spk_0 I don't know how reputable of a news source.

spk_0 It is.

spk_0 It's a tick-pot.

spk_0 Blames.

spk_0 We're not clickbait of Jason, but yeah.

spk_0 Okay, well they say that the princess Diana beady baby may have kicked off the beady baby speculators craze of the 1990s.

spk_0 So fun fact.

spk_0 We're getting into a tangent though.

spk_0 I'm sorry.

spk_0 Yeah, they actually lend in a not just L.A.

spk_0 But specifically Venice Beach, which is like a coastal kind of beachy community.

spk_0 I guess a comparison for British listeners would be like born, born with or brighten like.

spk_0 No, no, because brighter we've been the sickest is better speech as a place you might want to go.

spk_0 I thought so it's brighten possibly Marga.

spk_0 I thought born was cool.

spk_0 I remember reading it in a roll.

spk_0 That's for which is it sounded fun.

spk_0 Sorry, sorry.

spk_0 The joke in rolled off the which is not the go to Bournemouth is that it's fucking miserable.

spk_0 Oh, okay.

spk_0 That's why the witches hold their thing there.

spk_0 Oh, because they're evil.

spk_0 Oh, we're going to Bournemouth for the whole earth.

spk_0 I've never been to the challenge.

spk_0 That's like the big one.

spk_0 I'm learning.

spk_0 The equivalent of them, the witches hold their comprehensive Bournemouth would be if the witch had held their conference in Atlantic City.

spk_0 Oh, I see.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Not even Tampa, Atlantic City in the winter.

spk_0 Oh, that would be tragic.

spk_0 They'd be up at like the Trump Taj Mahal.

spk_0 It's sad.

spk_0 Yeah, Bournemouth is no offense to people who live in Bournemouth.

spk_0 But it's just a lot more than it is.

spk_0 Oh, no.

spk_0 Anyway.

spk_0 Yes, they're good.

spk_0 They're right, but this is the radio.

spk_0 They're like, right, I guess we've got to go find Captain Braxton before he fucks us a timeline.

spk_0 And, you know, Jane, they all beep down.

spk_0 So, you know, Janeway and Chicoity are dressed like they're in, there were a West Coast version of law and order.

spk_0 And two Voc and Paris dressed like they're on 21 Jump Street.

spk_0 They're in Cognito.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I do love that.

spk_0 They're in Cognito.

spk_0 Can I talk about a fashion decision?

spk_0 When they beep down, there is a guy and they're like, whoa, strange species of intelligent life down here.

spk_0 There's a guy with like computer speakers taped to his head or something.

spk_0 I don't think that was ever a thing in the 90s.

spk_0 I feel like that was like somebody from the 24th century worked on the show and was like,

spk_0 yeah, this sounds about right.

spk_0 I was just...

spk_0 I still love the visible disdain that Chicoity had for like anyone with a punk haircut.

spk_0 Come on, man, you're in the resistance. You're supposed to be cool with this.

spk_0 But yeah, after that...

spk_0 Oh, yeah, they also mentioned that they're her most a quake of 2047 turn Venice Beach into a coral reef.

spk_0 So look forward to that, Californians.

spk_0 Yeah, I do love that like, Jamie's just like Chicoity.

spk_0 Yeah, all of this is underwater at our time. Don't worry about it.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And then we have Picard where they go to it in like 24 and it's still there.

spk_0 Because evenly, at some point, the next five years, it's all got a full underground.

spk_0 They dredged it up like Dubai or whatever.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 You know, deep at the pool, we used to all LA friends, which is a surprisingly boring,

spk_0 a lot of different people.

spk_0 But when the earthquake comes, could you guys just like, I don't know,

spk_0 the root of San Francisco, they've got plenty of housing up there, right?

spk_0 Yeah, totally.

spk_0 Yeah, they have houses in San Francisco. They don't just throw people to stream.

spk_0 Famous for it.

spk_0 The famous for its collect complete, like, collapse of housing prices.

spk_0 San Francisco.

spk_0 Anyway, um...

spk_0 I believe in Silicon Valley, an Elon Musk stream for San Francisco.

spk_0 It's fine.

spk_0 I can't wait for Elon Musk to found Starfleet Academy and then use it as an elaborate tax dodge.

spk_0 He's just going to get one guy in like a Zentai suit with the little Star Trek logo on it.

spk_0 It's just sort of doing robots on a stage and he's like, I did it!

spk_0 That was me.

spk_0 I did it.

spk_0 Um...

spk_0 Speaking of Elon Musk, it's time to talk about Sarah Silverman.

spk_0 And...

spk_0 Yeah, we've got her boss, Henry Starling.

spk_0 So, I don't know if that's what Sarah Silverman sounds like, but it's a very...

spk_0 The accent... I can't place the accent.

spk_0 She's doing a really weird voice in this.

spk_0 Isn't that what you're saying?

spk_0 Wait, what's she doing?

spk_0 So, she's a comedian and later she got her own television program on Comedy Central called The Sarah Silverman program,

spk_0 where she has a much more lack of daxical, disaffected sort of slacker sort of voice.

spk_0 It's a lot more normal of a voice.

spk_0 In this, she's like, wow, I love the stars and I love working at astronomy and...

spk_0 Oh my gosh, what could this...

spk_0 She's got to impress her man.

spk_0 Yeah, she's...

spk_0 She's basically written as, you know, a sort of teen boy's little dream girl.

spk_0 She's... she recognizes his brilliance, his handsomeness, his intelligence immediately.

spk_0 You're so hot, you seem so dumb, but actually you might be the smartest person in the room.

spk_0 I mean, uh...

spk_0 A 15-year-old boy wrote this.

spk_0 And he also watched many entertainment shows.

spk_0 I think you're like, boy, surely you couldn't be Brad and Braga.

spk_0 I do like that like...

spk_0 Same thing.

spk_0 Every single one of like, um...

spk_0 What's his name?

spk_0 Rick Berman comes back to all of this,

spk_0 was every single Brad and Braga just kind of comes back to unbearably dull.

spk_0 Like, Braga...

spk_0 Braga commits some bat-eat for writing evil.

spk_0 The most of his writing crime is just not being particularly interesting.

spk_0 Pshh.

spk_0 It is actually...

spk_0 Boring is worse than bad.

spk_0 So...

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So, Rain Robinson, who is a Hollywood writer, an idea of what a grad student looks like,

spk_0 in that she looks like she's a shower this morning, which is factually untrue.

spk_0 I've met grad students.

spk_0 We don't do that.

spk_0 Um...

spk_0 You think we've got time to? Do you think we care?

spk_0 I'm a grad student who's won the same clothes for like two weeks at a row.

spk_0 Good for them.

spk_0 Um...

spk_0 Go back to him.

spk_0 Holy shit.

spk_0 That sounds like a real slur.

spk_0 It wasn't.

spk_0 It's in context.

spk_0 I live here.

spk_0

spk_0 I live here.

spk_0

spk_0 I live here.

spk_0 I don't really have any good information about it.

spk_0

spk_0 But then, yes, so, Ray and Robinson find Voyager.

spk_0 Sends an Birthday moe

spk_0 te Dailist and he looks like he's just a dick.

spk_0 Yeah, he...

spk_0 He sucks.

spk_0 He's like...

spk_0 And it's like, I feel like he kind of, he sucks,

spk_0 but also he sucks of ways that I don't think the writers intended.

spk_0 His office is the most, I'm obsessed with his office first off.

spk_0 It's the most like 90s postmodern tech dude ass office ever.

spk_0 It's all brushed chrome and like kind of geometric shapes,

spk_0 very neo art deco.

spk_0 And he's littered it with like toys.

spk_0 The man is like Tom Hanks in big voting it.

spk_0 He has a pinball table.

spk_0 He has a little model chuchu train on his desk.

spk_0 He has like, he just loves goofing around while he's in the office.

spk_0 He himself is also wearing like a polo shirt,

spk_0 bright blue jeans like acid washed and a woven belt,

spk_0 which I'd say does not make him look like a CEO,

spk_0 but I wouldn't doubt that there were tech CEOs in the 90s

spk_0 who did in fact dress like this.

spk_0 So take it or leave it.

spk_0 Yeah, I just, he sort of looks like a 90s imagination of a mid to

spk_0 of like a Steve Jobs, crossed with like a Gordon Gecko.

spk_0 Yeah. So anyway, he tells her not to report the aliens.

spk_0 Yeah, he's busy working on the hyper chip PC,

spk_0 which it's a normal thing to call a PC.

spk_0 Wait, who's that like kind of baff tech road?

spk_0 What's it called? The hyper chip PC?

spk_0 The chip?

spk_0 That's who we're talking about.

spk_0 No, but one TV day is Dan Blizzarian.

spk_0 It's just the old school Dan Blizzarian.

spk_0 Oh, oh yeah.

spk_0 God, I'm so sorry to bring up that name.

spk_0 Oh, I forgot the left Harry Kib and shot the ship.

spk_0 The ship broke.

spk_0 Yeah, Harry gets to do something in this episode.

spk_0 He gets to do something, we just tell everybody that everything's still broken.

spk_0 I love Harry Kim. He didn't deserve what he got.

spk_0 If I was Garrett Wang, I would simply not continue to smoke pot

spk_0 in front of my bossy. It doesn't like the fact that I smoke pot.

spk_0 Well, maybe your boss should just chill out, man.

spk_0 This is the United States.

spk_0 If you're bossy, just like take a chill pill.

spk_0 I'm not saying that Garrett Wang should the smoke pot.

spk_0 I'm just gonna be saying rule what a flight is done.

spk_0 That's cool.

spk_0 I think you should blow rings in his face.

spk_0 I think that'd be fucking awesome.

spk_0 Like, oh, you could blow rings in his face.

spk_0 Someone play some evil sounds.

spk_0 Because this sounds like censorship.

spk_0 If you're Garrett Wang and you've gone fuck my boss,

spk_0 I'm gonna keep smoking pot when he doesn't want me to.

spk_0 You then kind of don't get to complain when he doesn't promote you.

spk_0 God, it's so bad that he didn't get vapes like pot.

spk_0 He probably just had a cigarette.

spk_0 That was like,

spk_0 No, he's a rapper.

spk_0 It's been like, I smoke a lot of dope and Rick Burvin doesn't like that.

spk_0 Which I needed vapes 20 years earlier.

spk_0 Garrett Wang, if it was Garrett Wang would have been vaped,

spk_0 he'd think Harry Kim would not have vaped to the Voyager Bridge.

spk_0 Like, of course he was probably in the same place.

spk_0 He was constantly vaped with the Voyager Bridge.

spk_0 He was a friend.

spk_0 I think who vapes inside cinemas, that's Harry Kim.

spk_0 Just blasting mad clouds across the bridge.

spk_0 It looks like a cumulonimbus in there.

spk_0 It's incredible.

spk_0 It's red alert.

spk_0 He's just got his like, what'd you call it?

spk_0 The little like, disposable ones.

spk_0 He says it like,

spk_0 and he's like,

spk_0 check out the next time I caught him.

spk_0 He's just like,

spk_0 Shit.

spk_0 Well, no, that's what you call that's that starfleet

spk_0 Academy lingo for when you think teachers can tell that your high is red alert.

spk_0 Because

spk_0 we joke.

spk_0 Anyways, moving on.

spk_0 Do we say Harry Kim has popcorn along?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 That sounds upsetting.

spk_0 So you read robots so basically they still have to search for clues.

spk_0 Yeah, rain blasts the Voyager with the actual Voyager spacecraft.

spk_0 Golden record nude pics right out of the gate just to be like, hi.

spk_0 Here's what our genitals look like.

spk_0 We're humans.

spk_0 Hello, case or an alien.

spk_0 I still love Edison Captain being like, should we

spk_0 should I should I send a resident back like a fucking moron?

spk_0 How does this kind of problem?

spk_0 Have you never done this before?

spk_0 Are you from like accounts?

spk_0 Jesus Christ.

spk_0 Should we send a picture of our dicks?

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 You are?

spk_0 No.

spk_0 So

spk_0 basically they find a homeless man

spk_0 and then they realize how to capture Bragg's dead.

spk_0 He's dressed in like it.

spk_0 So I just asked the question about Capri.

spk_0 Sorry.

spk_0 Why the fuck is he freaking the fuck out?

spk_0 Take a chill, Bill Bro.

spk_0 Why have you why can he survive the 90s?

spk_0 Is it that deep?

spk_0 I mean he couldn't survive the 60s.

spk_0 Could you survive the 60s Olivia?

spk_0 And the 70s?

spk_0 And then even worse the 80s?

spk_0 Which is?

spk_0 I feel like I would.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 I was gonna say I would fucking thrive and then I remember some small

spk_0 historic.

spk_0 You would thrive.

spk_0 I remember some small historical details that might ruin my vibe, kill my energy.

spk_0 So I'll say I'll do my best and I would have cool clothes.

spk_0 Possibly.

spk_0 True.

spk_0 You would have cooler clothes than him.

spk_0 He's wearing like an overcoat and it's clearly summer.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 But he is homeless, you know.

spk_0 He's mysterious.

spk_0 Well the big homeless doesn't mean that you get like resistance to overdoing.

spk_0 No, being homeless is no excuse to not slay and I'm so sorry to say this.

spk_0 I would just I would put on a lighter coat.

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 I would roll up the sleeves and stuff.

spk_0 It is.

spk_0 That's just like he's hot.

spk_0 It's a 19th grade.

spk_0 He's really nice.

spk_0 He's amazing.

spk_0 Nobody wants to slay because of what?

spk_0 Anyway.

spk_0 So they scooby do it.

spk_0 So two of our comparisons go to the upper inventory and two of our country go to go to find Captain Braxton.

spk_0 Who then explains that he's been tracking for 30 years and you can then he's got caught

spk_0 in a cycle.

spk_0 You're not going to explain because I don't get paid to look at techno battle.

spk_0 But essentially it's kind of not their fault that anything's happened.

spk_0 Something else is going to happen.

spk_0 It's actually starting to start.

spk_0 Time loop.

spk_0 So starting then sense is,

spk_0 anyway, starting then just discover things are coming to get him.

spk_0 So he's just going to go and kill Manic Pixie dream grad student.

spk_0 I love I love this.

spk_0 I want to be close to his.

spk_0 This is my talk working for his parents.

spk_0 Why is he just going to count it?

spk_0 But he's an accountant with either a accountant who kills people.

spk_0 I love the good.

spk_0 His name is Dunbar.

spk_0 God.

spk_0 He's so I kept calling him Owen after a Xanatos'

spk_0 Goon in Gargoyles.

spk_0 Do you ever watch Gargoyles?

spk_0 No.

spk_0 Oh, okay.

spk_0 Well, there's similar arc inside.

spk_0 Just kind of a toady who is just down for whatever the boss asks of him.

spk_0 Wait, his name is Dunbar.

spk_0 He's willing to shoot a phaser?

spk_0 Yeah, the good is name is Dunbar.

spk_0 Like the elephants.

spk_0 He's the hundredth person you know.

spk_0 I think you're thinking of Babar or possibly Dunbar.

spk_0 He had Dunbar in the video.

spk_0 No, Dunbar.

spk_0 The illustrated book.

spk_0 Guys, no, okay, wait.

spk_0 Dunbar, Dunbar.

spk_0 Is this a thing?

spk_0 Oh, I was thinking of Bob Bob.

spk_0 I was thinking of Babar.

spk_0

spk_0 The elephant.

spk_0 I'm so sorry.

spk_0 Yeah, Dunbar is like the Dunbar limit is like you can only carry like a hundred people

spk_0 inside of your head at a certain time before you start forgetting people.

spk_0 So it's like that's kind of your max capacity for how many people you can reliably recall.

spk_0 I thought about 150, but anyway.

spk_0 Anyway, anyway, he sends the goon to go and kill Ray.

spk_0 But not before two-vok and Tom turn up and Tom gets to float with the greatest fusion.

spk_0 By talking about physics and B movies and while two-vok wives are computer, which

spk_0 sure that seems um, ethical.

spk_0 So they wipe out computer, take everything off of it.

spk_0 Tom does that awkward start to flirt with the way it's done by writers.

spk_0 He's never had to flirt with anybody ever.

spk_0 We have to write him so he sounds like normal in the 90s and it is impossible.

spk_0 They can't do it.

spk_0 Well, what was his flirting tactics just?

spk_0 Well, he talks about the, he tries to, he corrects raster physics.

spk_0 They talk about B movies.

spk_0 He awkwardly advises to a planet Earth.

spk_0 She awkwardly advises to a planetarium show.

spk_0 And he says no because he's got the power because he's a man.

spk_0 You know what? It's just, you know, the fact that he helped her out gave us some education

spk_0 and got to reject her. It's all sexy. It's all great.

spk_0 But thus to win, this guy failure was wearing a shirt.

spk_0 That was a terrible joke.

spk_0 I'm being ridiculous.

spk_0 It was bad.

spk_0 I feel like Bill and Ted did a better job of chatting up the, uh,

spk_0 the medieval maidens and Bill and Ted's excellent adventure than Tom does.

spk_0 Well, that's because Kiyoto reams for what's his name,

spk_0 have natural charisma and the greatest picture of Roger Duncan and Neil.

spk_0 He's a man who, excuse me, is a wife, cry energy,

spk_0 pacifist, I mean, a panel screen and star Trek.

spk_0 That is true.

spk_0 He should be good at this though. He's a fan.

spk_0 He's a, he's a 20th century aboo.

spk_0 He should love this.

spk_0 Yeah, but like all, like all weaves of all kind.

spk_0 He actually knows nothing about the period.

spk_0 He's supposed to be interested in it.

spk_0 Anyway, as they run away and raindrops him,

spk_0 the good appears and tries to vaporize them all.

spk_0 Um, so they've had jump in.

spk_0 He carbonizes the Silverado.

spk_0 Yeah, they vaporize the Dodge Ram.

spk_0 No, my product placement.

spk_0 I love they got the biggest fuck off truck they could.

spk_0 Like, they could attest to even any carburetor.

spk_0 Like, you know what?

spk_0 We fix the earth eventually.

spk_0 A little pollution is fine.

spk_0 Yeah, Tom Paris is not going to get into a Toyota.

spk_0 He is going to get into a Dodge Ram.

spk_0 Is that mad driving a fear?

spk_0 No.

spk_0 There's a man who won't even, who only rides live bikes at the highest.

spk_0 We were, we were robbed of the seed of them at the car dealership.

spk_0 I, I really wanted to see two of us go like it is,

spk_0 it would not be logical for you to pick this large of a vehicle for such a short drive.

spk_0 And Tom's like, nah, it's cool, man.

spk_0 On the road.

spk_0 It's fine. It's only, it's only, yeah.

spk_0 We got to do it now before they put those emissions test in.

spk_0 So that basically in the meantime,

spk_0 Kessah, the looks of watching the Maddie for the look of it,

spk_0 it's really funny.

spk_0 Like in a second, with a slink,

spk_0 through the challenge of a Maddie appearance, I'm like, oh the fuck.

spk_0 Anyway, so they're watching television.

spk_0 Jamie and Chico, they break into Starlings' offices.

spk_0 There's a picture of Starling with Dick Nixon,

spk_0 which is just fucking great.

spk_0 Was this guy a fucking hippie?

spk_0 What happened?

spk_0 It's Dick Nixon.

spk_0 He's not a fucking hippie.

spk_0 And then that happens.

spk_0 Paris tells Robinson that him and two fucking secret agents.

spk_0 That's the evil awkward like,

spk_0 they're trying to do the bit from Voyager,

spk_0 but it's not quite landing because, um,

spk_0 like Tom can't really, Tom, like,

spk_0 it's not quite that easy because they're just basically doing the same thing

spk_0 as you will at S Voyager again.

spk_0 But it's got some great lines like Tom,

spk_0 Tom talk about the Soviet Union, the KGB.

spk_0 That's what they want you to think.

spk_0 Is everything I like about this episode,

spk_0 my memory of the Voyager?

spk_0 Can someone like Audrey analyze me?

spk_0 And my failures here?

spk_0 I would stop.

spk_0 I crave the whales.

spk_0 We do have two episodes to get through,

spk_0 so I'm gonna rat a lot of it,

spk_0 so I think you might be right.

spk_0 Um,

spk_0 Oh yeah, because Jamie and Chico,

spk_0 who then get caught by Starling at Dunbar,

spk_0 we were all here for Dunbar.

spk_0 Not Baba.

spk_0 Mm-hmm.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Jamie's a hunting packer on the keyboard.

spk_0 She's tippetapping on the keyboard.

spk_0 So she gets caught.

spk_0 Starling's like, you come to take back my ship and kill me.

spk_0 And Jamie's like, what?

spk_0 Um, um,

spk_0 Starling then tries to,

spk_0 they then try to steal the stuff of Starling.

spk_0 Then Starling tries to steal the stuff of them.

spk_0 Then they beam,

spk_0 then Harry takes the ship

spk_0 into low orbit over LA

spk_0 to get them back.

spk_0 Do you remember how much data Starling steals?

spk_0 It's like, three?

spk_0 Three steals, like a 20% of Voyager's

spk_0 data.

spk_0 Three thousand gigabytes.

spk_0 That's less than a terabyte.

spk_0 It's three terabytes.

spk_0 Three terabytes has not a lot of data.

spk_0 You could get that for about a hundred bucks on DeWag right now.

spk_0 But this is, this is one of the paradoxes that drives me nuts.

spk_0 Like, we're, so,

spk_0 he's clearly using the future tech to make computers and shit.

spk_0 Why?

spk_0 Why isn't computer tech, if he's using 29th century technology?

spk_0 Why isn't the computer tech in this version of the 90s?

spk_0 Fucking awesome.

spk_0 Why isn't it better?

spk_0 And I get that he's only like,

spk_0 the abbreviation, isn't the abbreviation that he's dri-

spk_0 he's been dripp-

spk_0 dropping tiny bits.

spk_0 So he is always ahead of the game,

spk_0 but he's never delivering like enough for a revolution that people might get suspicious.

spk_0 I suppose, but like he's, it's really,

spk_0 he talks about an ISO graded circuit, which isn't a thing.

spk_0 Uh, he's, his company Chrono Works has apparently been influencing the computer market since like the 70s,

spk_0 but he's, I feel like if this dude has been at the bleeding edge of computer tech,

spk_0 like he should be a lot richer and a lot crazier than he currently is as shown in the show.

spk_0 Maybe this is just the-

spk_0 Uh, he seems like he makes bad decisions.

spk_0 Maybe, yeah.

spk_0 I just feel like it's the hindsight of like, we've seen this scenario-

spk_0 We've seen this scenario play out in real life and it's nuttier than the show.

spk_0 He's a feudal scheme.

spk_0

spk_0 He tried to invest in NFTs.

spk_0 Early, early, early.

spk_0 Yeah, we should be-

spk_0 We should be having like, he's trying to make like the metaverse in like 1987.

spk_0 Uh, isn't-

spk_0 isn't quite distinct possibility that he's just not very good at this part of it?

spk_0 I mean,

spk_0 like that-

spk_0 He's obviously full of toys, so maybe

spk_0 Yeah, like I think he might-

spk_0 I might be the Kirk, but also, I think it's distinctly possible he just might not be smart enough to take full advantage of this.

spk_0 Mm-hmm.

spk_0 Like the whole thing with Rasmussen,

spk_0 the 22nd century guy on TNG who comes to steal stuff like-

spk_0 The obvious point is the kind of person who's groupless enough to steal stuff in the future,

spk_0 probably not smart enough to figure out how to use it properly.

spk_0 Right, but the other wild thing about this is that if he stole tech from the 29th century,

spk_0 took it back to the 20th century and then used that to start the computer industry,

spk_0 then that technology eventually grows into the technology that forms the foundation for 24th century tech,

spk_0 which evolves into 29th century tech.

spk_0 So they need Henry Starling to steal this stuff in order for us to even accomplish-

spk_0 I'm scared he's getting too much better there.

spk_0 This is panicking.

spk_0 Well, the thing is that J-Way isn't going back to stop him from using the technology.

spk_0 He's going back to stop him from using the time machine, the stealable technology,

spk_0 and-

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 Fuck with it.

spk_0 And blo- like there's something- like I think the whole J-Way does kind of conflict like

spk_0 every- the computer revolution is all him.

spk_0 And she never like we have to stop that.

spk_0 It's all that-

spk_0 They have to stop him from blowing up the 29th century.

spk_0 There's just so much weird load bearing points in these frivolous episodes.

spk_0 Time-

spk_0 are all bunk.

spk_0 The only good time travel stories in Star Trek are the voyage home,

spk_0 and yesterday was- and tomorrow is yesterday.

spk_0 That's it.

spk_0 Oh wow.

spk_0 Because the voyage home is great because quite frankly,

spk_0 it's events have very little consequences in the moment.

spk_0 Like those two whales disappear- it's not like it's like,

spk_0 if two whales disappeared in the ocean,

spk_0 and then another whale would disappear.

spk_0 That's kind of like tragedy will accept.

spk_0 And then tomorrow is yesterday just as it was always itself by the end of the episode.

spk_0 Where it's like-

spk_0 This is like-

spk_0 We- we have to pretend that the computer industry has been led at the forefront

spk_0 by a company with a name as stupid as

spk_0 Chrono Works with an E and an X.

spk_0 Yeah, I mean, then again, we let the computer and the stupid dominated by a company

spk_0 called McIntosh.

spk_0 Apple.

spk_0 Yeah, but it was called McIntosh until-

spk_0 I thought it was called Apple first, and then the McIntosh was a model of computer

spk_0 that-

spk_0 Oh no, you're right, but that's not better.

spk_0 Let's stop.

spk_0 Yeah, that's fair.

spk_0 Or micrissopped.

spk_0 Yeah, it's not like, yeah, I mean, for Christ's sake-

spk_0 Or Google.

spk_0 I guess-

spk_0 It's like-

spk_0 We let the-

spk_0 I guess it guys can name things.

spk_0 Yeah, we let the-

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 But sometimes historically, if you want historical accuracy,

spk_0 you give things a dumb fucking name.

spk_0 Because you know what? We love dumb things.

spk_0 That's fair.

spk_0 Talking of dumb things, Star Trek Voyager.

spk_0 So, J-Way tries to steal Tegority from him.

spk_0 He ends up stealing her back, and he ends up stealing the Doctor.

spk_0 Our man!

spk_0 My favorite character in Star Trek, the emergency medical hologram.

spk_0 The emergency medical-

spk_0 Fucker.

spk_0 I love him.

spk_0 I love him so much.

spk_0 He's a typically great-

spk_0 My baby boy.

spk_0 My little meow meow.

spk_0 He's the angry Spidlerage Man in the world.

spk_0 But before we can find him at the Agri Spidlerage Man in the world,

spk_0 we have to deal with

spk_0 Tom Parford Raidwell was in Florida to go over a radio repair.

spk_0 And then two of us buying them burritos of breakfast.

spk_0 He gets them like ultra mega super duper combo meals.

spk_0 Yeah, I'm not sure what was the joke here.

spk_0 He's feeding his boys.

spk_0

spk_0 Or food's better than less.

spk_0 It makes more logical sense if it is really a discount

spk_0 to acquire the more bountiful option.

spk_0 You could wrap it up and take it home for later.

spk_0 Maybe he thinks they'll need some stuff.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Maybe he's thinking ahead.

spk_0 Maybe he thinks he has two fuckers thinking ahead.

spk_0 These thoughts ahead when he's going to need to use the bathroom.

spk_0 That's going to take a whole half hour out of his life.

spk_0 Maybe he's just excited to eat something other than Neelix's cooking.

spk_0 That's a good point.

spk_0 There we go.

spk_0 That's a good point.

spk_0 It's all coming up.

spk_0 Everything comes back to Neelix.

spk_0 Sue.

spk_0 Teal stop.

spk_0 Anyway, so

spk_0 back on Voyager, the gang I've got together to basically say that they stole the doctor

spk_0 and started his fuck with the computer.

spk_0 K. Mogueur delivers all his stuff.

spk_0 I want that time ship.

spk_0 Like it's very bond villain.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 She's like a dog looking at a cocktail winner on a very low table and she's like,

spk_0 yeah.

spk_0 Not least specific, but so on.

spk_0 Then like,

spk_0 I love the basic bit, the basic seat of the second episode is that every star is too stupid to be left alive.

spk_0 Like if we leave him alone, he is going to blow up the 29th century.

spk_0 I think so.

spk_0 This is like, they're going to teach us this Starfleet Academy for why the Prime Directive is a thing.

spk_0 Like,

spk_0 it's, we're really all just post-industrial barbarians.

spk_0 We can't be trusted with this shit.

spk_0 This guy has a connect's Ferris Wheel inside of his office and he's going to kill us all

spk_0 unless we kill him first.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I do feel like when they get tired travel along the temper or pro-director,

spk_0 basically, be, no, you are not allowed to go back and kill people just because you think they're stupid.

spk_0 Like, you're just an allowed.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 But in this case,

spk_0 you're not allowed to go back and slap Hitler.

spk_0 Is it moral for me to travel different like timelines just so I can kill every virgin of two Valk?

spk_0 Two Valk?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I feel like that's allowed or two Vicks, sorry, not two Valk.

spk_0 Yeah, I'm very worried about that.

spk_0 It's going to say preserve two Valk.

spk_0 Two Vicks now.

spk_0 No, it says every two Vicks in every universe.

spk_0 Shouldn't have happened.

spk_0 I'll guide my hand.

spk_0 And then you guys can leave Janeway the fuck alone.

spk_0 Can we talk about how Henry Starling found a way to make the EMH feel

spk_0 pain, experience pain?

spk_0 It seems super easy, also.

spk_0 He coded a way.

spk_0 Fun, it also feels like, because this comes out at the same time as Starling's first contact.

spk_0 Right?

spk_0 This very much feels like a state that Brunner Brogwant.

spk_0 I want to do the bullquad bit, whether she put somebody else's skin on data.

spk_0 You.

spk_0 Yeah, I forgot what everyone forgets how fucked it is for a bit that movie,

spk_0 dangerous, just wearing dead people's skin.

spk_0 I think you mean awesome.

spk_0 I think you mean that is an awesome part of that movie that rules.

spk_0 No, no, somewhere, somewhere, somebody's.

spk_0 Somewhere, somebody's like the freedom of his nation request on their dead partner or child or

spk_0 parent who died in the process.

spk_0 You look free to registration requests.

spk_0 Oh, Lord.

spk_0 Experts and skin, bodily parts we use by the poor queen on the tenant commander data.

spk_0 And you have to live the fact that your father's asked with a patch to his head that he can feel pain.

spk_0 But your father's ass is so smooth and shy like a baby's bottle.

spk_0 It was perfect for me by beautiful man's face.

spk_0 We must have.

spk_0 He was so moisturized.

spk_0 Maybe that, maybe that thyroid radiation that killed the poor queen should have just been left

spk_0 to left across the whole ship.

spk_0 Maybe they should have all died.

spk_0 I think I think we were robbed of an episode where like Laura found out about this and he's like,

spk_0 oh, shit, I'm going to become more human by stealing people's skin.

spk_0 You basically want to floor with an L-Dutora?

spk_0 Yeah, I'm here.

spk_0 I want, I want lower leather face.

spk_0 I want lower their face.

spk_0 I think that you got just faces.

spk_0 Aren't we just talking about that?

spk_0 We are.

spk_0 We are talking to the DS.

spk_0 Paramount, you should hire me.

spk_0 I'm so full of ideas.

spk_0 Paramount, Paramount would never hire you because you've

spk_0 got an original idea.

spk_0 This is not an original idea.

spk_0 Shit, you're in, you're in, you're in.

spk_0 So basically the dog clickers try to psychoanalyze,

spk_0 start like and set like you're a real skit so you've got bipolar disorder,

spk_0 your mummy hates you and your dad wants your dad.

spk_0 And then basically you start like,

spk_0 I'm going to give you the god-tumbative baby treatment.

spk_0 Just tortures him.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 But then he also gives him the mobile emitter,

spk_0 which is a thing for the rest of Voyager.

spk_0 That is, Chrono works tech that he wears.

spk_0 And it is incredibly weird, like there's no fanfare that dog could just have it.

spk_0 Yeah, and they couldn't, they couldn't invent this in the 24th set.

spk_0 They can't get him out of the room.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So then what happens is

spk_0 Raid Robinson set and two Vokaparats,

spk_0 they try to establish this to kind of stalling.

spk_0 And they got a, they got a Metro Plaza,

spk_0 which sounds like a fake place,

spk_0 but it met that's a real place, isn't it?

spk_0 Probably.

spk_0 It sounds like something from a Verhoven movie.

spk_0 Yeah, it is, Metro Plaza is very starship troopers.

spk_0 Oh, oh, it's like God, there is no Metro Plaza in Los Angeles to see

spk_0 so actually feel the music center or granddavelies.

spk_0 It's not real, they invented a place.

spk_0 Oh, good.

spk_0 Okay, good for them.

spk_0 Yeah, they try to do like a hostage handoff in this plaza.

spk_0 And you know, the Voyager Gang are like,

spk_0 whoa, the EMH is here, how's that work?

spk_0 Oh, I forgot, we hate this judge.

spk_0 They do that.

spk_0 Well, Chikotian Turrets do some flying bullshit.

spk_0 There's a bit of ballad erases about her starting a fight in an astro theory class, which

spk_0 I just closed my eyes.

spk_0 This is to our last episode to talk about us.

spk_0 Yeah, I just closed my eyes on you as well.

spk_0 I see the lot of this, speak about her heritage,

spk_0 stress and smell.

spk_0 There's gonna be no good for me.

spk_0 Yeah, yeah, I listen to the most recent episode of I Quit Star Trek.

spk_0 I'm sorry that Paramount, I'm just sorry that Paramount still hasn't figured out that

spk_0 mixed race people exist or she looks like maybe to be chill.

spk_0 I prefer if they didn't, to be quite honest,

spk_0 the more the less they know about us, the better.

spk_0 Jesus Christ.

spk_0 Better say it's sorry.

spk_0 Anyway, so they do this dodgy, the ambush goes wrong.

spk_0 They attempt to do this prisoner swap.

spk_0 The EMH gets to punch some guys in a limousine fight, which is fun.

spk_0 They try.

spk_0 The EMH punch has done bar of the dumber punches him.

spk_0 Starling gets beamed out.

spk_0 They then run away.

spk_0 They then get into the, then they arrive and Starling is,

spk_0 Starling's been captured.

spk_0 Oh, Archicotes, Shuttle crashes.

spk_0 Yeah, this is the, this is the

spk_0 Cultist Malicious subplot because we also have a Cultist Malicious subplot in this.

spk_0 Why are there Cultist Malicious subplot?

spk_0 Olivia, did you want the Cultist Malicious subplot?

spk_0 I love learning about Cultist subplots.

spk_0 What's happening?

spk_0 Yeah, it's like the, of the Shuttle crashes and then suddenly Chico Tey and

spk_0 Belada have been caught by a bunch of

spk_0 white supremacists.

spk_0 They're like red-neck white supremacists.

spk_0 I almost said I from the American representation.

spk_0 And I've said it.

spk_0 Well, that's the problem is it is.

spk_0 They knew this was a problem back in the 90s and it's still a problem

spk_0 here today.

spk_0 They consider this right, they should just go back to letting

spk_0 Bums off in the middle of the Arizona desert.

spk_0 So these people get a raid dick.

spk_0 You know, you can't set up a, you can't set up a doomsday homestead if he's irradiated.

spk_0 Yeah, he does talk about how the federal government is the beast.

spk_0 I don't think they have to be really vain about the conspiracy stories,

spk_0 so they don't get sued by the actual conspiracy theorists.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Oh yeah, this is the other bit.

spk_0 Starling has rigged the time ship to go thermonuclear if they try to take it back,

spk_0 which is also completely unhinged.

spk_0 Yeah, he is just completely unhinged and he's still mad.

spk_0 He's just like,

spk_0 yeah, so much in Starling's just slight.

spk_0 He was this the second half of the second episode just drags on

spk_0 He meant very weird places.

spk_0 He mentions that he invented the internet and like that was that was DARPA.

spk_0 That wasn't him.

spk_0 Why does it have a bunch of military contracts if he says he invented so much to him?

spk_0 Yeah, if Henry Starling invented,

spk_0 hence I didn't invent the internet, a bunch of guys showing grateful dead records

spk_0 recreate it invented the internet.

spk_0 Yeah, this is my favorite front factor of the day.

spk_0 The internet was invented by people trying to,

spk_0 the internet, and more specifically the ability to download stuff off the internet

spk_0 was invented by people working for the government who all like the grateful dead.

spk_0 We have to find the secret record like for the fucking internet.

spk_0 You can all point it to the fact that it's the ability to download music.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Thanks Jerry.

spk_0 I appreciate it to actually.

spk_0 Yeah, it's all a grateful deathful.

spk_0 Thank you for Spotify.

spk_0 Yeah, anyway.

spk_0 I think I think an updated version of this would be better if this guy was like

spk_0 this episode would have made or this whole series would have made a lot more sense

spk_0 if this dude was like Gary Raytheon and it was like they had landed in like DC instead of

spk_0 California, but I understand that California is the most important and only state of America.

spk_0 In Star Trek, so I get it.

spk_0 I don't have an excuse.

spk_0 It's basically this cheap.

spk_0 They don't have to spend much right before the series.

spk_0 It's right there.

spk_0 Yeah, anyhow, so

spk_0 two buckets called a freakosaurus.

spk_0 We must remember that.

spk_0 That was it.

spk_0 Freakosaurus.

spk_0 Two of them are freakosaurus.

spk_0 They then were.

spk_0 Two of them are freakosaurus.

spk_0 Tom Parris is described as sexy and a howdy-duty sort of way.

spk_0 Sex and howdy-duty, I mean that's pretty good.

spk_0 That's how I feel about it.

spk_0 Yeah, that's true.

spk_0 So two vuck and the doctor go to Arizona.

spk_0 I don't know how they get to Arizona, but they go to Arizona.

spk_0 If they've ever explained how they get to the far,

spk_0 how do they get to the far?

spk_0 They steal another Silverado.

spk_0 Fucking.

spk_0 Let's talk to a two-vuck.

spk_0 Get to Arizona that quickly.

spk_0 Petal to the metal, baby.

spk_0 Let's go.

spk_0 Do they like how it never explains?

spk_0 Maybe they maybe they went to LAX.

spk_0 If you believe anything is possible next.

spk_0 So then starting Dunbar, get starting back somehow.

spk_0 They get them back because they use they use wacky

spk_0 the janky 20th century transporter tech to teleport him back to the office.

spk_0 Which that would seriously change him shit if we had some teleportation tech in 1996.

spk_0 Other side note, Red Roblin St. Tells Harry tells Tom that he can't be spied because she's

spk_0 watched every episode of Mission Impossible. Mission Impossible had let a devoy in it amongst a large

spk_0 number of other Star Trek actors.

spk_0 This is the other thing I wanted to talk about.

spk_0 So this is very exciting because this stuff like this is like one of my favorite things that

spk_0 bug the fuck out of me in media where it's like this this episode of Star Trek exists in a world

spk_0 where the television show Star Trek does not exist because it's real.

spk_0 Which means that all of the references that in our world will be Star Trek are either replaced

spk_0 by some other television show like Battlestar Galactica Space 1999 or Sea Lab or something like that.

spk_0 Sea Quest DSV.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Blake 7 or they're just not there.

spk_0 I thought about this so much also when like I always think of this in my mind as the Sherlock

spk_0 problem because like for like the BBC show Sherlock right.

spk_0 So Sherlock Holmes and John Watson are in that show but it's modern times.

spk_0 So that's 100 years where the books of Sherlock Holmes did not exist.

spk_0 So like what was Poirot just more popular?

spk_0 Was it a ghost to Paul?

spk_0 How did mystery fiction get started?

spk_0 No, no, no.

spk_0 Proro wouldn't exist without Sherlock Holmes.

spk_0 I would exist in that format.

spk_0 It would be based more on French detection level for drawing very different stuff.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 This is why you don't do modern adaptions.

spk_0 The set stuff in the 1890s.

spk_0 It's cooler.

spk_0 Everyone gets the sponge.

spk_0 They're wearing nice suits.

spk_0 You can have Sherlock be weary progressive and it makes sense because he's just autistic.

spk_0 It's fine.

spk_0 Sherlock's work now.

spk_0 Sherlock's always been work.

spk_0 He believes women in the 1890s were legally property.

spk_0 And pro Sherlock Holmes.

spk_0 He still doesn't make him queer Bay owner.

spk_0 That was the 1890s.

spk_0 Looking in a manual.

spk_0 I mean they did.

spk_0 They did.

spk_0 They did the queer Baytting in the the Robert Downey Jr films.

spk_0 Even the 1990s.

spk_0 Even the 19.

spk_0 Well, in the 1990s Sherlock Holmes.

spk_0 The thing is that there are a lot of things in original Sherlock Holmes stories that are

spk_0 red as queer now because relationship between masculinity, emotional,

spk_0 closeness and male friendships are very different

spk_0 before the First World War to what they are afterwards.

spk_0 The idea of two heterosexual man crying in the arms of a heterosexual friend

spk_0 has no has minimal queer connotations before the First World War.

spk_0 It has subbed as minimal ones compared to after First World War and especially after Second World War.

spk_0 Like I mean, this is a long sidebar but I was doing some research for a thing.

spk_0 And it was an active description of the battle of the first days of battle of the Sun

spk_0 to battalion kernels doing the muster and when they

spk_0 are discovering that of their four German they had in the mornings of only got 60 left each

spk_0 and they're both first and two tears.

spk_0 And that is considered heartbreaking but not to be

spk_0 at undermining of mass traditional masculinity.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 Would crying after losing several hundred men be seemed gay now?

spk_0 Is that what you'll say?

spk_0 I think there are plenty of people.

spk_0 I think it would be a shame.

spk_0 I was looking for the first half.

spk_0 Open.

spk_0 No, but openly weeping.

spk_0 I think people, there are plenty of people whose idea of masculinity now wouldn't approve of that.

spk_0 I think in the fifth, even the second world war, there are people who wouldn't have approved of that kind of activity.

spk_0 Your entire battalion dying, you're crying over it.

spk_0 What are you doing?

spk_0 It's not that you are expected to be sad.

spk_0 It's just openly crying would it be considered too feminine?

spk_0 We live in a fuck society.

spk_0 We do.

spk_0 But the society.

spk_0 Anyway, I don't know why we're talking about Sherlock Holmes but

spk_0 anyway.

spk_0 So basically two vux and the doctor not only take down the Arizona State Troopers

spk_0 but also all the do-of-state trappers but all have us all screwed up so we don't see it.

spk_0 They vaporize the wife's supremacists which is great.

spk_0 The EMH.

spk_0 Take sorry.

spk_0 At a tire magazine to the chest.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And then he goes,

spk_0 divine intervention is unlikely.

spk_0 And then he zaps him out of this fucking universe.

spk_0 It's extremely funny to me that the memory out folk describes the June State Prev as revolutionaries.

spk_0 It's debatable.

spk_0 I mean, by technically, if you follow a rule definition,

spk_0 yeah, but you're missing the spirit of what you miss the context.

spk_0 Anyway, so they were revolutionary.

spk_0 Paritases, whack jobs.

spk_0 Wack.

spk_0 So they get out.

spk_0 Paris and Rain are chasing the big truck with Dunbar in it.

spk_0 Which is really funny because it's like it's a high-speed chase in a Volkswagen van.

spk_0 A Volkswagen van's accelerate like the Malaysian men.

spk_0 Yeah, they're not good cars.

spk_0 This is the reference to Spielberg's The Dual.

spk_0 Which watched The Dual by Steven Spielberg.

spk_0 It's based on a Stephen King short story.

spk_0 Absolutely fantastic movie.

spk_0 It was his first for television, but really great.

spk_0 Later on, Steven and Tredo adapted himself.

spk_0 It is first an only directorial debut in a film called Maximum Override

spk_0 that he does not remember nowadays because he was so high on Coke when he made it.

spk_0 That movie is interesting for different reasons.

spk_0 Steven King directly maxima the drive.

spk_0 Yes, he directed it.

spk_0 It's based on his story.

spk_0 He's like, I think Steven Spielberg, I don't think he did it good enough.

spk_0 I'm going to do it for my own story and it's going to be better.

spk_0 And we're going to get ACDC to do the soundtrack.

spk_0 So Olivia, did you enjoy when double-sided weather?

spk_0 I'm so sorry.

spk_0 I'm like a tangent machine.

spk_0 Did you like the high-speed chase?

spk_0 Do you enjoy the high-speed chase?

spk_0 A high-speed chase is always sexy.

spk_0 Like this entire episode.

spk_0 And then they jumped out the false fog and beetle as Dumbo tried to kill them.

spk_0 And then two-buck just vaporizes the motherfucker with a shuttle.

spk_0 I didn't kill them.

spk_0 Dumbo is dead!

spk_0 They did it!

spk_0 Dumbo is dead!

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Dumbo, rest of these Dumbo.

spk_0 What are my favorite good at a tie?

spk_0 You can kill people in the past if you really feel like it.

spk_0 Yeah, it's fine.

spk_0 Anyway, then it turns out that it was a roof and the Dumbo's doom truck didn't have the time machine in it.

spk_0 Starling just blasted up the side of the building.

spk_0 This is the funniest shit on the face of the universe.

spk_0 Because it's like pure, it's like that whole voice.

spk_0 It didn't build a fucking door!

spk_0 It didn't even do like the thunderburn shit of like opening.

spk_0 It did the thunderburn the wind.

spk_0 It's like I've got to be.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 It's like someone got a watch, yeah?

spk_0 I hope nobody realizes that it's been secretly stealing future tech to fund my powerful

spk_0 corporate empire.

spk_0 Drives a spaceship directly out of the top floor of my own skyscraper.

spk_0 It's got to be a better way to do that.

spk_0 It's got to be the better way.

spk_0 We got to keep it up there so you can look at the spaceship through your cool ass frosted window

spk_0 in your office next to the pinball table.

spk_0 So Starling then just ignores all the warnings he's about to fuck with the universe.

spk_0 Oh, I forgot.

spk_0 Paris has to leave.

spk_0 He tells Robinson goodbye.

spk_0 He's like, I know he would like you and I'll never meet them again and she says the same

spk_0 and to say hello to Saturday and then they kiss and it's very sweet and they should have just

spk_0 brought her back to the future like they did with them.

spk_0 Yeah, they didn't have to replace.

spk_0 They would have then had to pay Sarah's government for like seven years.

spk_0 Yeah, but then she wouldn't have made the Sarah Silverman program.

spk_0 Would that have been good?

spk_0 I think it would have been better.

spk_0 Well, there was some pretty bad stuff on Comedy Central back in the day.

spk_0 I don't know if we could have defused that even a little bit.

spk_0 Wait, wait, Sarah Silverman, I'm fucking Matt Damon.

spk_0 Ew, what's up?

spk_0 What's up?

spk_0 Did she do a song called I'm fucking?

spk_0 She did.

spk_0 I really can't.

spk_0 Oh, I don't know, I don't know, I just said.

spk_0 Why would you tell me that I exist?

spk_0 Why would you let me know?

spk_0 We could have prevented this.

spk_0 We could have stopped this.

spk_0 I would go for kill Voyager if it didn't,

spk_0 but I could have prevented this information and getting into my brain.

spk_0 Well, I don't want to tell you.

spk_0 Anyway, so they go back to space.

spk_0 Starlink refuses to not destroy the future.

spk_0 January then has to climb into a torpedo,

spk_0 shoot a fire torpedo, which quite frankly is dumb.

spk_0 There's a better way to do that.

spk_0 It's fucking dumb.

spk_0 She's got to give it a little push.

spk_0 That's not no.

spk_0 Cheap.

spk_0 No.

spk_0 She's not even in the top here.

spk_0 It's like a slight, we gotta give it a running start.

spk_0 No, but like when they do it in Star Trek 6, they do.

spk_0 They slide it in.

spk_0 It's great.

spk_0 There's no torpedo.

spk_0 They can be asked to pay for the torpedo.

spk_0 Well, you can walk to the DS9 stage.

spk_0 You get the torpedo prompt they have.

spk_0 What's wrong with you fucking people?

spk_0 Just get the torpedo prompt.

spk_0 You use like, that's it.

spk_0 You guys make television.

spk_0 You can't make a torpedo room.

spk_0 Jesus Christ.

spk_0 Holy shit.

spk_0 This is how the top finally gives out.

spk_0 This is fucked up.

spk_0 Oh, we'll show like an isolated idiot border.

spk_0 It's a press button.

spk_0 No.

spk_0 If you're gonna say she's going to the torpedo tube,

spk_0 you show me a motherfucking torpedo.

spk_0 It's a fucking heart.

spk_0 It's a conversation you've caused Star Trek.

spk_0 You gotta get one of those big sunglasses cases.

spk_0 They shot Spock out of it.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And just pack it full of TNT.

spk_0 You gotta give fire control

spk_0 and weapon handling the respective desserts.

spk_0 Oh, we'll show sensors.

spk_0 Go fuck yourself.

spk_0 Anyway.

spk_0 So they find torpedo at Braxton at Starling.

spk_0 Who doesn't need any weapons.

spk_0 And what are Starling's final words?

spk_0 Is it like, oh, oh.

spk_0 They are.

spk_0 His final words are seeing and unique.

spk_0 Seeing an anti-bond torpedo

spk_0 with the five-parameter bombified at him.

spk_0 Uh-oh.

spk_0 I do know.

spk_0 He's just a yeah, man.

spk_0 Oh.

spk_0 He does that in other terms.

spk_0 Most 90s ends.

spk_0 He does that in other terms just to have better

spk_0 final words than uh-oh.

spk_0 Oh, and then Braxton turns up going,

spk_0 what do you guys fucking do in there?

spk_0 Go home.

spk_0 And then a Jabra is like,

spk_0 well, can you take a specter?

spk_0 And that's when he goes,

spk_0 now, and that's just kind of it.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 But-

spk_0 If they're argument.

spk_0 The great thing is to preserve the timeline.

spk_0 Uh-

spk_0 All of that stuff still has to happen to him.

spk_0 And he still will die a weird homeless guy

spk_0 in 1996, Los Angeles.

spk_0 And also, I guess like-

spk_0 The-

spk_0 The guess like Dave

spk_0 Starling's just just,

spk_0 what comes back in from his weekend away,

spk_0 opens the door to see I was in a massive hole

spk_0 in the side of the building.

spk_0 And his boss,

spk_0 and his boss is good and dead.

spk_0 If you're like, what?

spk_0 What-

spk_0 What the fuck?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 What if that happened at like,

spk_0 fucking like, what if that happened to Bill Gates?

spk_0 Bill Gates disappeared.

spk_0 That's what happened.

spk_0 Giant hole.

spk_0 You can't tell me there wouldn't be ripples.

spk_0 You can't tell me that there wouldn't be eddies in the time stream.

spk_0 I mean, the obvious point of course is the-

spk_0 the arm and then that every piece of time travel

spk_0 bullshit in Star Trek.

spk_0 Bose creates a different timeline

spk_0 and just contributes to the time that we currently exist in.

spk_0 So like-

spk_0 The whole thing-

spk_0 The only smart thing Stragie Wells does

spk_0 is heavily imply that all the time travel bullshit

spk_0 since-

spk_0 has happened in Star Trek.

spk_0 Since it began,

spk_0 has fucked with the timeline so much

spk_0 that like, the passage of history just has changed completely.

spk_0 But the Royal Wheel and Secret agent going

spk_0 are the fucking eugenics also meant to happen in the 90s

spk_0 of the 20s, 24 when I'm still here.

spk_0 It's quite funny.

spk_0 Like, it's the best picture.

spk_0 But I came here 30 years ago to deal with this stupid

spk_0 eugenics war bullshit.

spk_0 I still haven't happened.

spk_0 I'm still haven't happened.

spk_0 Because of the fuck-

spk_0 because everyone keeps fucking around with the time-

spk_0 So basically like, every time time travel happens

spk_0 the timeline that Kirk and Spock go on just moves around a bit.

spk_0 Which I think is funny.

spk_0 Like, you can either believe it's-

spk_0 time is wibbly wobbly down.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Star Trek.

spk_0 I think it's in Battlestar Galactic.

spk_0 Let's not mix our IPs.

spk_0 But yeah, well, you know, they had a go at

spk_0 Sally O'Connor for some fucking reason.

spk_0 Nothing came of it, but um...

spk_0 Anyway.

spk_0 So yeah, they're back in the future in the Delta Codron.

spk_0 The doctor can now roam freely,

spk_0 but he's not allowed quarters.

spk_0 He's still a slave.

spk_0 Grouse.

spk_0 And then, you know,

spk_0 Paris asks whether two-vok is a freakosaurus?

spk_0 They are a key-bucket.

spk_0 I think he is.

spk_0 Traffic collectors?

spk_0 No, no.

spk_0 Can we all just pause real quick?

spk_0 Can you take it seriously?

spk_0 I mean, he is, but like, parentheses loving.

spk_0 I mean, this episode will be called

spk_0 the one where two-vok is a freakosaurus.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I-

spk_0 I think that-

spk_0 I think that he is, but I think that's a good thing.

spk_0 Absolutely.

spk_0 These are for four-vok where it matters.

spk_0 And I know this.

spk_0 Exactly.

spk_0 Are there any kids as they have?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Do we ever get to see two-vok's kids?

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 We do?

spk_0 When they get back in contact with the federation,

spk_0 we see two-vok's kids.

spk_0 Right!

spk_0 With the-

spk_0 Oh, with the beam!

spk_0 Yes!

spk_0 That's right.

spk_0 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

spk_0 Bring the book with us, guys.

spk_0 Do we see his wife?

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 And do you think I could take her?

spk_0 Do you think I could find her?

spk_0 Slash to take her?

spk_0 No.

spk_0 As is me to know.

spk_0 I think you could beat her in a theater of debate,

spk_0 which is what they would probably do.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And then this thing be vocal,

spk_0 you'd then have the most violent sex you can imagine.

spk_0 Seems-

spk_0 Incredible scenes.

spk_0 So, trivia.

spk_0 Are we ready for the trivia?

spk_0 Let's do it.

spk_0 But I'm ready.

spk_0 This was originally a four-parter.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 Please give me the answer.

spk_0 There was-

spk_0 It was in the four-part episode.

spk_0 It was a four-par arc on Earth in 1996.

spk_0 They would go to have two-vok and paras get trapped

spk_0 in a convenience store during the LA riots.

spk_0 Oh, oh, Lord, no.

spk_0 No, no, no, no, no.

spk_0 I would not trust it.

spk_0 I'm seeing that Christ, no.

spk_0 This is an audio-medium,

spk_0 so you can't see how hard I'm bugging my eyes out right now.

spk_0 Jesus Christ.

spk_0 Almost lost Star Trek.

spk_0 Do you know how offensive it would have been?

spk_0 There's no fucking way.

spk_0 Oh my god.

spk_0 It does-

spk_0 People would have been-

spk_0 the director of a bride and bride

spk_0 get his trapeze.

spk_0 It could be still one of the things

spk_0 ambushed by gang members,

spk_0 but we know he was doing the LA riots.

spk_0 I'm like-

spk_0 So-

spk_0 They would have had more of the headlines.

spk_0 Originally Chico T. and Torres' capture

spk_0 by the the nut jumps would have been like

spk_0 a main part of the plot. They had to condense it. They had like a whole script. But they were

spk_0 a piece of the Freeman from Montana, but they were yeah. And then they thought about putting

spk_0 red Robinson on Voyager and Rick Berman said no because he's a fucking killjoy.

spk_0 Boo. Boo. We hate this guy. Fuck you. Yeah, we really do. Fuck you. We have to say that.

spk_0 But yeah, like if you needed one more reason. What is this? We got. But Piccardo

spk_0 wouldn't have sit in Janeway's chair for the first time he's on the bridge and they said no.

spk_0 Oh.

spk_0 It's probably whether they let him become the emergency command hologram later.

spk_0 Yeah. Ed Beagley who played Starling had a fucking great time for the sound of it.

spk_0 He was so pleased. He's been really pleased. What else? As he should for being part of history.

spk_0 The Arizona desert was actually filmed in Bajave and what are the trivia?

spk_0 This. Is there anything that will traumatize me? I'm looking. Anything that would take away

spk_0 the beauty of that I've taken from this episode in this record. I may leave happy.

spk_0 Rick Berman described this two parts as wonderful. Fuck. I agree with fucking Rick Berman.

spk_0 Okay, I quit. People like this episode and all the prizes. It's like fun. It's

spk_0 said, but nothing happens. Yeah. Everyone was mad that Ray Robinson didn't get to be on.

spk_0 Get to go on Voyager. Yeah. I think it would have been. I think it would have been fun to

spk_0 have like a like a like a far escape type character from our world in the future and also

spk_0 space. I think that would have fun. The apparently Sarah Silverman was like, I don't

spk_0 was like she don't welcome the future of reprise Ray and Robinson, but she was never going to become

spk_0 a main character because she didn't like committing to long-term projects. Which makes sense.

spk_0 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The interesting point that Bruno Brown and Joey Taylor, because they think that

spk_0 this is the moment that Voyager actually starts to pick up some steam. Okay. Well, that's not.

spk_0 It's kind of right. With the half-way season three and then you get seven of the beginning

spk_0 of season four. So the tempo it's it drags a lot less after this. Objectively, this is the point

spk_0 where people did tell me, Voyager gets good guys. You know, it's going to pick up. It's going to be

spk_0 great. It's going to be really interesting. They lied. That's okay. I forgive them. Yeah.

spk_0 Was this before or after the episode that's like there's a species of alien that converts the entire

spk_0 ship into World War II era resistance France? Oh, the yellow, yellow episode. The yellow, yellow episode.

spk_0 Yeah. The third secret army. You know, Jamie's out there. So go, Jamie's out there. Go, you know,

spk_0 doing full reby good learning. I'm making explicit realm systems for the British things.

spk_0 Somewhere there are at least four people listening to this podcast. Well, we pick and share.

spk_0 I'm talking about secret army and a low, low. We at some point of this show, we will do killing time

spk_0 part one and two. And before we do it, you're going to watch it and I'm going to make you watch

spk_0 them for the secret army. I'm going to make you watch never said of a low, low. Can someone

spk_0 British tell me how bad this is going to be for me? What actually is a low, low? It's.

spk_0 Okay, secret army. Okay. No, secret army was a drama show about the French resistance, right?

spk_0 And it ran for a long time. But to essentially it was like all the episodes were kind of

spk_0 predictable. There's like, brave, female, French, the female French. You're telling me

spk_0 about these French people in this? In this in a story about the French resistance. Yes.

spk_0 Anyway, but it was such a like iconic show that the they made a parody of it called a low,

spk_0 low. We're basically the main characters move for being like the brave French resistance guy.

spk_0 This like guy who runs, it's actually setting Belgian, not for us, if I'm the joke, but this Belgian

spk_0 like cafe owner who just wants nothing to fucking do with this and all the hapless resistance

spk_0 tropes around him and like the extremely cab German officers and use the satarian one.

spk_0 And one of the long-standing jokes is that the local placement is actually a British secret agent.

spk_0 And because he speaks terrible French, the show is in English, but because he British

spk_0 English speaks terrible French, all of his English pronunciation is shit. So when he comes in to say

spk_0 good morning, he always goes good morning. But anyway, that is made to do what that voyager

spk_0 to part of his is it is a low, low starter condition. But it was going to be comedy.

spk_0 I will get Albury back on the podcast to do killing time because it'll be funny.

spk_0 It'll be funny. Who else? I will find a second world war historian to do killing time because

spk_0 it will go fucking mental. It's a really good pair of episodes as a thing too. It's really fun.

spk_0 It is, but if you know what the dramatic influences are, it's very difficult to take seriously.

spk_0 But we have to ask you a question. Does it make us quick start track?

spk_0 No.

spk_0 No. Despite your attempt to crush my spirit and my joy for once, I will take whatever

spk_0 freaklicious, whatever fuck they said and run with it. Freakosaurus. Freakosaurus.

spk_0 Yeah. I think it was great. I think it was a voyager. I thought I would not be

spk_0 energy to watch the second half of it last night. And then I did. So congratulations,

spk_0 for it. You made yourself watchable. I hope you're happy.

spk_0 Yeah, I think that I already kind of quit start track, but this episode performed a time paradox

spk_0 and maybe go back to a time in my life where I was watching Voyager. And I remembered, oh yeah,

spk_0 hey, this is pretty good. It's ontologically irritating as hell, but the parts that weren't were good.

spk_0 So I don't know. It's it it has killed. It has yet to kill. It is in a quantum entanglement state

spk_0 of kill and not kill at the same time. Perfect. Perfect. So I'm going to throw a note on the

spk_0 spreadsheet. We didn't have to do the triplets. Olivia, what are the triplets?

spk_0 Triplets is the scale of grace and beauty. It is what determines the curse of the episode that we

spk_0 have just experienced. Based, of course, on the iconic, beautiful episode unexpected.

spk_0 So that's got ended that out. The beautiful episode unexpected in which Triptaka becomes pregnant

spk_0 with child and grows nipples on his wrist because of course he does.

spk_0 Some may call that cursed, we call that life.

spk_0 So on a scale of one to ten. How many triplets do you give us episode?

spk_0 The metric is pure vibes. Don't worry about it. I think episode one, I think that would get like a solid

spk_0 like. I don't want a pitchfork score this and do like a decimal point for a nip because that's

spk_0 not how it works. You have to really commit to the integers. You can give half one thing. No,

spk_0 no, I mean, you can. I've got a spreadsheet. Don't do that. Yeah. Yeah. I think episode one definitely

spk_0 like I think that gets like, oh, but episode two has the EMH walking around. I think episode one

spk_0 is like, if we agree this in the bell curve of like, well, okay, hold on. Are we comparing it to

spk_0 Voyager or just like all of Star Trek? Just in general. Okay. I think episode one is seven,

spk_0 episode two is six. Right. We're giving it six point five. Olivia, what are you giving it? All right.

spk_0 What was freaky about this? Everything that was freaky about this episode was perfect. I've made

spk_0 it actually interesting. Otherwise nothing as you said happened. It's just a walk in the park where

spk_0 it's a mild nice day. I mean, I, hey, I find Henry Stalin completely insufferable and the bit where

spk_0 the time shift is burst out the way out the cyber building very last so much. I'm giving it five.

spk_0 Oh, and don't. No wait, don't buy. Don't buy. I'm making a sick. I love that guy.

spk_0 Okay, I'll give it a full and that's not a respect. We have a, we have five point five tripnets out of ten.

spk_0 So wait, are the tripnets if you liked it or didn't like it?

spk_0 Then whatever you want them to be. Okay, well, I give it, I give it six point five tripnets and a bucket

spk_0 of popcorn. Oh yeah. And speaking of popcorn, I saw people enjoy. Olivia, what is the final

spk_0 metric we ask our guests? This is where it gets serious. This is where I feel restored as a

spk_0 trexter. The high art or the fame, you are allowed to submit something to my personal

spk_0 rotary of iconic slatric episodes. There is no rhyme reason, but you will attempt to

spk_0 I'll attempt to be objective. I will this time. I promise.

spk_0 Okay, so you'll forgive me if I don't remember the exact name of this episode.

spk_0 I'll remember it. Okay, so we're talking about another Voyager one since he's not,

spk_0 he's always on my mind. The EMH, there's an episode where he writes a book about what it's

spk_0 like for him to you. You're also also, you're putting also also intellectual property episode.

spk_0 Triggered. What it's like for him to be a part of the list. I think it's on the list.

spk_0 No, it's not on the list. We did it as an episode with Alex. Oh, Perry. I love that episode because it's

spk_0 what like it's so like on the one hand, it's very silly and I love seeing like how like his

spk_0 parodies of the Voyager cast and what they look like. And also like what it looks like for a

spk_0 computer program that has rarely experienced life outside of the boundaries of the ship.

spk_0 Him trying to imagine a fiction version of the world. Really interesting from like an AI

spk_0 perspective. But also I think that it's, you know, it's a great example of like why he's such an

spk_0 interesting character because like these basically the concept of essentially a consciousness growing

spk_0 from nothing. I've been trying to repeatedly assert itself as a human, a person. And you know,

spk_0 making art, having desires, having complaints. He kind of mirrors, he feels like a better draft

spk_0 of data in a way to me. And I think that it's also like the bit at the end where it's like, oh yeah,

spk_0 we, I forgot if it's either that episode or different episode, but it's like we, your model of

spk_0 EMH is like decommissioned now and we sent them all to work like in like the salt mines or something.

spk_0 And then you see the shot of like like a bunch of identical Robert Picardos down in a mind,

spk_0 secretly passing along this like book that he wrote and it's like, hey, get a load of this.

spk_0 It will, there's some real shit in here that's that's true. And it's like,

spk_0 we never, we never got a hologram uprising episode in Star Trek. And that just, I just feel like

spk_0 that's a wasted potential. But I just, it's an episode that stuck in my brain for so long.

spk_0 I want, okay, you sold me. I want to award it. I want to award it for many reasons. Also,

spk_0 it's no Star Trek episode for me, John, as an IP girl, you know. I don't make the decision on this one,

spk_0 you do. I have to be in convincing, I wish I had no hammer, but we don't use those in the K-Core.

spk_0 I'm hearing it. Point, point. Anyway, so that's in the list. We've done the trip. We have completed

spk_0 our business. And before we say goodbye, RSJ, do you have anything to sell, invite,

spk_0 reprate? You can, yeah, I do comics. You can read them at irisj.net. I have some Patreon,

spk_0 patreon.com slash irisj and irisj comics on most of your better social medias. I would like to,

spk_0 I would like to promote if you liked listening to me, Yamaron, on this episode. I host a podcast

spk_0 of my own right now with three of my friends called Discovers. We are going one by one through the

spk_0 entire series of Disc World novels by Sir Terry Pratchett, reading them, reviewing them, and

spk_0 ranking them to find out which one is going to take forever. Well, okay. I love it. No, yeah,

spk_0 we've been doing it since forever. We've been taking a bit of a summer hiatus, but our next episode

spk_0 is going to be on Nightwatch, a big one. And for the first time ever, we're going to have all

spk_0 four hosts in the same studio to cut a live-ish episode. That'll be going up sometime in September.

spk_0 So now is a great time to listen back through the archives and see if you agree with our

spk_0 incredibly objective ranking. Or if you're wrong, check it out, discpod.xyz. It's great.

spk_0 Fantastic. And if you'd like to find us, we are at Quistar TrickPod on the Hellsite or the Blue

spk_0 Sight technically TikTok. That's Olivia. I don't know. We should really make an Instagram or something.

spk_0 I don't know. We're going to social media presence. I don't know. You got to get on that cohost.

spk_0 Instagram first reps. Guys, if you want to first up, just comment below.

spk_0 You can also email us at icostarticaggiblet.com. We have a page you'd please.

spk_0 I said this money. We haven't put your page in because it up for ages.

spk_0 We have a store. You can buy our stuff on the thing's tea public. I forgot it. This is terrible.

spk_0 But it's in the show notes. You can buy a shirt that if you want to be James Vision, all the money from

spk_0 that goes to the Trevor project. I don't think anybody's bought anything for it recently. It'd be nice.

spk_0 It's not terrible merch. If you like t-shirts with an arrow that reminds you about your James Vision.

spk_0 Get a James Vision shirt and support the gaze. I mean, what more can you want from your life?

spk_0 What more could you want? What more could you want? But until next time,

spk_0 I was J, thank you very much. Thank you both for having me. It's just delightful.

spk_0 And until next time, don't kill Dunbar. I love that guy. Why'd you kill Dunbar too?

spk_0 Bring back Dunbar in Strange New Worlds.

spk_0 No, prodigy. They can come back in prodigy. Why not?

spk_0 I don't know what an arrow won't kill. I know you listen.

spk_0 Bring it back. I know you will. This is how I'll forgive you for screwing up mud to the skyline.

spk_0 Anyway, goodbye everyone.

spk_0 Goodbye. Bye.

103: Future's End (Parts 1 and 2), or The One Where Tuvok is A Freakasaurus

Interactive Transcript

Topics Covered

Related Episodes

If you're here to raise consciousness on this planet... (Akashic Records Workshop coming up!)

Ep. 309 – Love Binds All Things: What We Can Do to Help the World with Prof. Rajiv S. Joshi

People on TikTok BEGGING for Money is Unhinged (Sad Fishing for Money)

Justin Martin Wrestles with Phil's Advice on Fatherhood

Share Episode