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What Nobody Tells You About Suppressors
In this episode, Ryan Stratton from Silencer Co. discusses the often misunderstood world of suppressors, debunking myths and highlighting their benefits for both new and experienced shooters. He share...
What Nobody Tells You About Suppressors
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They're offering redded barrel versions right out of the box.
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So you don't have to go and drop $150 or $200 on a barrel.
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It's coming with it.
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People don't really think about it at all,
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but it's getting your kids into shooting,
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because it's going to suppress your recoil.
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It's going to make it a lot quieter.
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It's going to make it just a much more enjoyable shooting
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experience.
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Absolutely.
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People have this negative stigma with them.
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In order to enjoy shooting and introduce people to it,
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it's arguably the best tool for doing that.
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Absolutely.
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Today we are talking silencers, suppressors, cans,
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whatever you want to call it.
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We have Ryan Stratton with Silencer Coal with us today.
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He's going to talk to us about some of the changes
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that are going on in the suppressor industry,
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some advancements, some of their top products,
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and some of the best uses for them.
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Tell us a little bit about yourself,
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how you got in with Silencer Coal,
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and just all about you.
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Sure, no problem.
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So my name is Ryan Stratton.
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I am the director of sales for Silencer Coal.
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I just passed nine years with the company last month,
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and got the job after leaving the firearms industry
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on the retail side.
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So my family business, my dad had a gun story he started in 70s,
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and opened the second location,
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and when I got out of college, I got a real job,
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and then ended up leaving that profession,
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and going to work for the family business.
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So we opened the second shop, which was archery,
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and more hunting-related.
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We sold guns.
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We sold bows, hunting products,
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whereas our original store was more kind of old school gun shop
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with a shooting range and that stuff.
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So I did that until about 2015,
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and then we sold my dad retired, got rid of the business,
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and I switched sides from the retail side
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to the manufacturing side.
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Got a job with Silencer Coal working the southeast region
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as a sales rep.
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And then just continued to love the job and moved up from there.
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So now I handle kind of our distributor accounts,
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our big national accounts,
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shields being one of them on the account manager for shields.
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And we've got a really great team at Silencer Coal.
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I've got an awesome sales team.
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We've got about nine guys right now that run around
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and cover the country and do live fire shoots.
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We do trainings.
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We interact with the end user, the dealer.
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So it's a really fun job, that's for sure.
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I'm actually leaving on Monday to go do a shield's graduate training.
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So that'll be fun.
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Hey, that's awesome.
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So there's been a lot of change in the world
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of Silencer Suppressors.
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How long has Silencer Coal been around?
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Like how long has the company been around?
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So the company was founded in 2008.
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Okay.
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We just two guys in a garage decided that they wanted to try
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make a better suppressor.
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And we actually came to market with the Sparrow as our first product,
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which is still our best selling rimfire suppressor.
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And the second product at that point was the Osprey.
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If you might be familiar with that, it's our eccentric design.
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So it's a non-round suppressor.
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And it's pretty iconic and noticeable.
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So the company expanded from there.
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Sales started taking off.
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Now we're in, I think, our facility in Utah is like something around 75,000 square feet.
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We're opening another production facility.
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Sometime this year, probably, I think September,
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we're shooting to open up.
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More capacity, more production.
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Because we make everything in-house,
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which is one of the things I really like about Silencer Coal in our products is
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we're vertically integrated, right?
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We go from raw materials to end product, all in one house.
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That allows us to control the quality of the product that we put into the marketplace.
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It also allows us to affect 48-hour turnaround times on our warranties.
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Because we have an in-house warranty department.
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They bring anything in that gets damaged or misused or anything like that.
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They've got it fixed up and turned around really quick.
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Very cool.
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So there's a lot of people out there that don't really know all the ins and outs of suppressor.
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Maybe somebody that just thinks about the John Wick movies or the James Bond movies.
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There's a little bit of fear and anxiety about it.
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Can you just tell us about where suppressors started and where they're at right now
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and the most popular uses for them?
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Sure. Suppressors have been around for a long time.
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Actually, they are regulated by the National Firearms Act.
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That went into effect in the 30s.
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So they were being used prior to that.
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They were patented in the early 1900s.
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And unfortunately, we're wrapped up in the National Firearms Act
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where they became a regulated item along the lines of machine guns, short-brow-drife,
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full-short-brow-drilt, shotguns, destructive devices.
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So since the early 30s to own a suppressor in the United States,
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you've got to follow the NFA rules, which are fingerprints, photos.
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You fill out a federal form for.
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You undergo a background check.
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And once all that is completed, you pay a $200 tax stamp also.
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And then once all that is processed, you then are able to own the suppressor.
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And that is right now legal in 42 out of 50 states.
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We're lobbying to get it to 51 day, but 42 now.
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So nowadays, you see them in movies, right?
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That's probably where most people see their suppressors.
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And there's a lot of myths in Hollywood about, we call it Hollywood Quiet.
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You see someone shooting in a crowd and nobody's listening or nobody's hearing it.
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But what we see nowadays for suppressor use is very big in the hunting industry.
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It's big in the personal defense side of shooting.
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People who are going to have a home protection firearm, they want to suppress it.
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So if they actually have to discharge that firearm indoors,
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it doesn't destroy their hearing.
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Recreational shooters, anybody that's going to do a high volume of rounds
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or even a low volume of rounds, it's just so much nicer to shoot with a silencer.
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And one thing I'll set straight here early, you're probably hear me
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throughout this podcast use different terms for suppressors.
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Silencers suppressor can.
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They're all interchangeable, right?
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The company's named Silencer Co.
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So you'll hear people say, well, it's not really a silencer, it's a suppressor
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because it doesn't silence the round.
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But the original patent on silencers was a silencer.
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So you'll hear me use all three terms.
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Some people prefer one or the other.
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I tend to throw around all three.
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Nice.
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And you know, like one of the main benefits too is like, people don't really think about it at
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time, but it's getting your kids into shooting because it's going to, you know,
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it's going to suppress your recoil.
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It's going to make it a lot quieter.
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It's going to make it just a much more enjoyable shooting experience.
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Absolutely.
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People have this sort of negative stigma with them, just because there's so many,
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you know, like forums you have to fill the fingerprints like you talked about.
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But man, like in order to like, enjoy shooting and introduce people to it,
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there's, it's arguably the best tool for doing that.
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Absolutely.
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We see a lot of brand new shooters at live fire events that we do.
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And they'll come up.
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They've never shot a gun before.
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You can see they're, they're visibly a little bit afraid to shoot.
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We'll usually step up.
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We'll start among like a 22 rifle or pistol.
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And you can kind of see the anxiety just melt away after they shoot that first round.
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They're like, oh, that was it, you know, and they'll take off their hearing protection.
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They'll shoot it. They'll listen to it.
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And they're like, wow, that's really, that's really not what I expected.
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He's stepped them up from there into a larger caliber, maybe a nine millimeter,
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300 blackout, something like that.
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And before you know it, that person who is afraid to shoot is over here shooting
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it's well-gauge suppressed, you know.
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Yeah.
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It takes about five minutes to get them comfortable with the sound and the recoil.
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And the same thing for hunting, right?
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If you've got kids that you want to get into it,
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obviously everybody's hearing is sensitive.
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Kids especially.
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The last thing you want to do is take your kid out and have them damage your hearing
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with a 308 in the deer stand.
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But you are able to reduce the recoil and you're able to reduce the sound.
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It helps with accuracy.
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It really just makes the shooting experience, the hunting experience,
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that much more enjoyable.
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Mm-hmm.
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Absolutely.
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And so I went to what's called like a hunting and shooting university last year
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where we had a silencer call was there to just shooting a pile of rounds,
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like whether it was through like six, five or seven millimeters or pistols,
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basically the whole gamut of things.
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But I mean, I would say 80% of the stuff that we shot was suppressed and then we'd go to a section
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where you didn't have a suppressor on the rifle and it was like, oh,
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that's just not as fun.
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But yeah, it's true.
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It's one of those things that once you start, it's hard to go back.
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It really is.
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We always will sell somebody their first suppressor and it's called like a gateway can, right?
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They'll get it.
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They say, well, I just really want to suppress my AR or my pistol or whatever.
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And then inevitably that person goes and they shoot one of their guns,
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unsuppressed and they're like, I just have to fix this.
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Let me go get another one.
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And that's why we see multi-calibre suppressors become pretty popular.
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Someone see the hybrid 46 and they go, wow, this will suppress everything from my 4570
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down to my 9 millimeter and pretty much everything in between.
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And they say, that's great.
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I'm going to buy one for everything.
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And then before you know it, they're coming back.
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I want one for my pistol.
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I want one for my rimfire.
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I want one for my hunting rifle.
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We've got some that are the Swiss Army knife and then we've got some that are more of like a
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scalpel, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That's a good way to put it.
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And just, you know, target acquisition, such a big thing.
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You know, when you're in your hunting situation, you've got that animal at three, four,
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five hundred yards or whatever.
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And like, you shoot, you want to be able to stay on that animal.
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You want to know where you're hitting.
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You want to know if you have to do a follow-up shot.
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Or like, even just in range situation,
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so longer distances, just being able to like physically track that bullet through the scope.
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Because if you're not shooting suppress, it's, it's very, very difficult to do that.
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And it makes it so much easier to do it when you're shooting with a silencer.
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That's a great point.
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Myself and my sales team, we, a few months ago, were out in Texas and we were doing a PRS class,
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you know, precision long range hunting, precision rifle type of class.
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And it is really important to be able to stay in that optic and see your hits
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and be able to make an adjustment on your shot if you missed.
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Same thing would apply to hunting, right?
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If you shot and missed and the animal hasn't spooked, you can actually see,
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hey, I was, I was three mills right.
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Let me make a quick adjustment and let me shoot.
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Without the suppressor or a really good break on the end of the gun,
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you get blown out of the scope, you don't know what happened, right?
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You don't know if you missed, high low left, right?
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And then one of the other things that people who haven't actually hunted with a suppressor
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aren't really aware of is you can actually hear your hit on the animal sometimes, right?
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I do a lot of hog hunting in Florida.
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And, you know, we're not usually shooting at a very long distance.
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It's usually inside 150 yards.
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And you can actually hear the round impacting the animal.
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So that really helps you understand, like, oh, okay, I got one.
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Yeah.
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You know, you can, for those who grew up like rifle hunting,
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I grew up in Minnesota and the orange army comes out in November.
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And you're here in chops and all this.
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And you can distinguish which ones of those are hits and which ones are missed
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from a distance.
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But being able to do it with yours is a completely different thing.
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Yeah, it's true.
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I take a lot of people hunting at night.
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I'm giving them my rifle with the thermal on it.
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I'm looking through a, you know, through a spotter or something like that.
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And then when they're getting ready to shoot,
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I actually am putting the spotter down and I'm just listening.
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And I'll call hit or a miss, you know, because I can hear it.
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It makes the experience that much easier.
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Yeah.
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And if you haven't gone hog hunting for the listeners out here,
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put it on your bucket list, especially the thermal stuff.
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It is so fun.
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Yeah, the pressers and thermals go hand in hand.
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That's for sure.
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And we've got a ton of pigs here in Florida.
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I actually, I live right up against the Kennedy Space Center.
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And there's a wildlife management area that surrounds the Space Center.
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And I share a fence line with that management area.
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And I've got tons of tons of pigs that end up in my yard.
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So, you know, I've got a camera out there.
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And anytime I see something slip into the yard,
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I'm out there trying to take care of it.
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That's awesome.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, to do your part.
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Exactly.
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I should send him a bill.
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Yeah, exactly.
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It's funny.
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So let's talk a little bit about your wall behind you.
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So I mean, I know that there's a lot of people that listen to us
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on like audio-only platforms like Spotify and Apple Music and stuff like that.
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But for the ones of you.
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So I am actually a pretty big fan of older guns.
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I have probably seen on the top row up here all the pistols.
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I've got a lot of old wheel guns.
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I'm a pretty big like cult fan, you know, detective specials
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and some of the older stuff.
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I think I get that from growing up in the gun store with my dad.
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He was a big like World War II collector of old guns.
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You know, the single action armies and, you know, old West guns and stuff like that.
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Gosh, it's going to be hard to pick out a favorite.
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I guess let's see here.
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So, you know, kind of the classics.
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This is an old Browning 20 gauge over under.
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The really special thing about this was given to me
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by a really good customer of ours at the store.
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Older guy, Vietnam veteran and he didn't have any kids.
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He really didn't have any family and he would come in every day
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and drink his coffee and share stories in the gun store.
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And he ended up coming in with this Browning 20 gauge one day.
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And he said, I want you to have this.
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I don't shoot it anymore.
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And I do, you know, a lot of herd hunting and stuff.
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So this one kind of holds a special place in my heart.
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I would say one of my more favorite guns, one you'll never sell.
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Not that I sell guns that often anyway, but that one I think would be for sure one of my
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favorites.
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You know, I find it fascinating that it really doesn't matter how many guns a person owns.
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That, you know, the one that's the most sentimental or the most important to them is really the one
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that's like the most expensive or like the most difficult to acquire.
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It's just the one that has like the most unique heartfelt story to it.
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Absolutely.
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Appreciate that.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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That's true.
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You know, it's a special thing to give somebody a gift like that, right?
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And so it means something really really important to someone who receives that gift,
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whether it's a gun or anything else like that.
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Yeah, I mean, there's there's much more expensive ones up there,
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much harder to get ones, but you know, if the house was burning down and I had to grab a
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couple, that would be one of them for sure.
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Nice.
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Do you have one back there that's maybe like older, but you had to like modify to fit one of your
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suppressors on there?
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Do you have a good example of that?
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Yep.
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This is a Remington Model 7, right?
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243.
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Okay.
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This was my very first rifle.
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So this gun came from my dad when we were going to go deer hunting.
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I was probably, I don't know, eight or nine years old when I got this.
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And it was your traditional wooden blue 243.
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Still has the original blue pulled on it that I've always kept on it.
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But in recent times, I decided that I need everything suppressed.
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So I have a good buddy of mine who is a gunsmith and he threaded this for me.
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So now I have a modern take on my original deer rifle.
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And I still do take this, you know, shooting every now and then and one day I'll probably pass
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this along to my daughter or daughters, whoever decides they want to be the hunter and the family.
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But yeah, that's, I mean, I got that gun.
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I don't know.
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Or of mid to late 80s, sometimes like that.
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I love that.
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That's actually very, very similar to some of the first gun that I use too.
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I shot my first deer with a 243.
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And I'm pretty sure it's the same model.
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Mine has a lighter color stock.
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But you pull that out and I was like, oh, that's nearly exactly the same gun that I started with.
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And very popular early deer rifle gun.
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Yeah. And I ended up moving to a 30 odd six after that and had some scope issues.
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And then I moved back to that one again and then I shot, what was my largest deer for like
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the longest time with that 243? And I have to give credit to like shooting out a doe to try and
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film my management tag and missing horribly to probably why I caught that deer.
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Because like I switched back and then two hours later this really nice five by five shows up.
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And I likely would have missed them with that other gun.
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But moving actually like the modification you did, what exactly do you have to do to like
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get the barrel to be ready to take a suppressor for that?
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So the industry now has really adopted suppressor ready models.
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So really all you need is a threaded barrel for the most part.
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So like your old bolt guns, that was pretty rare that they came with a threaded barrel.
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If they, you know, some of the old brownings and stuff came with one of their
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breaks or something like that. But for the most part, they're solid barrels.
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They don't have threading. So any competent gunsmith can go ahead and turn that barrel and put
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threads on it. And then you're pretty much ready to go on on a rifle. A-Rs, they pretty much all
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come with flash hiders or breaks. So all you have to do is remove that break or muzzle device.
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For our products, we offer a proprietary mounting system that's quick detach.
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It's called the ASR mount. You just put one of our muzzle devices on and then you lock the can on
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with the muzzle device and it's ready to go. For your pistols, you would go ahead and buy a
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threaded barrel if you don't already have one. And again, there's a lot of manufacturers out there
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that are offering threaded barrel options because suppressors have been for a long time.
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One of the fastest growing segments of the firearms market. So you've got companies like SIG, HK,
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you know, staccato, smith and wesson breta. They're offering threaded barrel versions right out of
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the box. So you don't have to go and drop $150 or $200 on a barrel. It's coming with it.
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But if you've got a gun that doesn't have a threaded barrel, like for instance,
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silencer code, we make clocks, smith and wesson, SIG, HK, breta. There's a variety of barrels out
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there that we make as well as other manufacturers too. So they're usually pretty easy to drop in and
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just attach your suppressor and go. Okay, nice. All right, I've got a question for you. So say,
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say I have like an AR like 223556 and a 65 creed more and I want to get a suppressor that works
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for both of them. Like what sort of like one do you want to get? What sort of accessories do you need
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to make them be compatible to work for both? Do you have to worry about certain gas and pressure?
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What sort of goes into all that? Good question. Good question. So 30 caliber suppressors is pretty
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much the largest segment of the business, right? That's going to cover usually everything from
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around 300 wind mags, sometimes a little bit more and down to 223556 and some of your
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you know, 224s, things like that. Most of the time, people are going to buy that 30 caliber suppressor
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and they'll use it on their ARs, they'll use it on their bolt guns. Some of them you can use on
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pistol caliber carbines and things like that. Depending on which model silencer co you buy,
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some of them will come with a direct thread, some of them will come with a muzzle brake or a
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flash hider and the ASR mount the QD mount. But we have a plethora of accessories where you can
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adapt that suppressor to a different host weapon. So if you buy a sci-fi, for example, that's one of our
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more popular hunting suppressors. It's all titanium, it's super light, super quiet, smaller,
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shorter suppressor. It's ideal for bolt guns, but if you want to put it on your AR 556 or 300 blackout,
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you can direct thread it right on or you can use the ASR mount. So you can buy a couple of different
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accessories and use different, you know, different firearms. You can put a muzzle device on every one
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of your guns and put the ASR mount in the back of the suppressor and then just go from one to the
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next to the next by just unlocking a ring and moving it from one to the other. Okay, interesting.
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And then what about cleaning and stuff like that? What's your recommendations on cleaning for
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these things? So we get that question a lot. Most of our sealed suppressors are pretty much all of
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our suppressors at this point in the rifle category are sealed, right? They're not user accessible.
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So really all we recommend is cleaning and oiling the mounting portion of the suppressor. So I
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usually say anything with threads. I'll usually take apart clean oil and put back together. That's
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like the in cap, the mount, the direct thread. If it's a modular suppressor, so we have some that come
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in a full length configuration and then you can shorten them. So those segments have threads. I'll
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usually take those apart, clean them oil and but as far as the inside of the suppressor goes,
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as long as you're shooting jacketed factory loaded ammo, you don't really have to worry about
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cleaning the inside. They're going to be just fine. There are methods out there by which you can
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clean them if you want, but we don't usually see the amount of build up or round counts in the
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and the average shooter that requires someone to go ahead and get in the inside of that and clean it.
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Okay, so you don't necessarily have to be worried about like safety or anything like that with
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not really. We do recommend cleaning the rim fire suppressors. Rim fire is dirty. You also get
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a lot of unjacketed ammo and you get lead build up on the inside of the suppressor. So our sphero
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and our switchback 22, both of those we do recommend cleaning the sphero every 2000 rounds,
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the switchback about every 1000 rounds and they're pretty easy to clean. Take them apart. You got
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the baffles on the inside, clean them up, scrape any of the lead out, put them back together and
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start shooting again. Nice. So there's been quite a bit of talk about like the tax stamp going on
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and I believe there's been some new regulations that have been passed. Can you walk us through exactly
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what's going on in the in the environment with it right now? Absolutely. Good question. So
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the big beautiful bill, which some people have probably heard of, just passed in July 4th of July
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and in that bill was a tax stamp reduction, right? So right now we talked about it a little bit
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earlier when you buy a suppressor or a short-barrel drive full-short-barrel shotgun,
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you will pay a $200 tax stamp and that's been the case since the early 30s, right? Starting January
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first, the tax stamp will go from 200 down to zero. It is a step in the right direction. It's not
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what we originally wanted the way it was originally written was suppressors being completely removed
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from the NFA walls, right? So that would basically treat them just like a firearm. You go in, you do a
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44-73, you pass your background check, you leave with your suppressor. They amended that bill when
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it went from house to senate, right? So they did leave the portion in about the tax stamp being reduced.
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So that passed. So starting January 1st, if you go by a silencer, you will still do a form for,
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you will still do fingerprints, you will still do photos and you will submit that to the ATF
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for the background check. The good news is about 18 months ago or so, background checks went from
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somewhere around eight to 12 months down to eight to 12 days, sometimes, you know, a couple days
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to a couple of weeks. I actually have to go to the gun store tomorrow to pick up a suppressor. I had
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an approval in three days. So turn around times on the background check have come down significantly,
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and then starting in January, there will be no tax. So the purchase process remains the same,
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the tax is going away. Okay, gotcha. And then talk to us a little bit about
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you have to, to like pass it down or have like other people use your suppressor. What are the
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logistics with that? So there are a couple of ways that you can purchase a silencer. You can
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register them as an individual. You can register them as a trust. Those are the two most popular
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options. Registering them as an individual, you're basically the person that owns that, it's
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stamped and registered to you personally. So other people can shoot it, other people can be in
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possession of it as long as you are with them in present, right? I can't give that to somebody
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and let them go to the range without me. I can't let them take it to their house, whatever.
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In a trust, you can add multiple trustees, responsible parties, and any one of those people
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can possess and use that suppressor on their own away from the other people. So there's options
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out there on purchasing firearms trust. And if they fire on trust, there's a bunch of options,
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they're not super expensive. Some of them are pretty convenient to do. And then you just add in
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the people that you want to be able to possess that suppressor. And you can add and remove those
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people once the suppressor is in your hands, right? So a year later, two years later, you want to
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amend that document to include or exclude people, you have that flexibility. And then upon the death
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of somebody within that trust, there's no paperwork that needs to be filed. Nothing happens. They're
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just out of the trust and the other people continue to use it. If it's yours as an individual,
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I pass away. I've got a suppressor that was registered to me individually. And my family member
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or friend or daughter, whoever wants to take that, there is a tax-free option of re-registering that
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to them. At this point, past January 1st, there's going to be no tax anymore, right? So it'll be
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a little bit more easy to transfer a suppressor from one person to another or from a trust to a person.
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Right now, the barrier to injury on that is the $200 tax stamp, right? If I want to sell you a
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suppressor, you give me $200 for it. Right now, you have to pay that tax stamp again, right? So
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after January 1st, that $200 goes away in all aspects. Okay, it makes sense. And then when you're
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setting up in this trust, so basically everybody in the trust has to get like the background check
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and the fingerprints and all that. That's correct. Yep, anybody who's on that trust as a responsible
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party will have to fill out the paperwork, do the fingerprints, do the photos, and then wait for
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the background check. Now, there are a lot of easy ways to purchase suppressors out there.
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Shields, for example, you guys have got a really great system in house. It sounds difficult.
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It sounds like a lot, right? Fingerprints, photos, forms, taxes. If you go into a shield today and
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buy a suppressor, you may know better than I do, but for the most part, that process takes
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somewhere between like 10 and 20 minutes. It's not that hard. And I believe, you guys are storing
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the fingerprints and photos as well. So if you're doing a repeat purchase, it's actually easier to do
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and quicker on the second or third try, you know? Yep, absolutely. So okay. And then for say you want to,
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you want to switch that suppressor between all sorts of different guns. You want to put it on
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to an air, you want to put it on to, you know, one of your six, five, seven millimeter, all of that.
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You can still do that with just like your standard, not not the trust but the personal, right?
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And we're going to any issues. Nope, none there. So that's one thing we do deal with a question about
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that. Someone comes in and they say, I want to buy a suppressor, right? And then they think that
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that serial number is like linked to a firearm, right? It's it's not that way. You can move that
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suppressor to any firearm you like. They are not tied to any specific firearm. You can move them
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around however you want. Basically once you pay that tax stamp and get that form approved and it
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comes back to you, you can do with it whatever you want with any gun. What about like keeping
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paperwork when you are going to like the range or to hunting and stuff like that? What sort of
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recommendation do you have for that to make sure to stay like legal and doing everything right in
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every situation? That's a good question. So the ATF recently, last year, they went to a e-forms
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system. So they basically digitized their entire form for process. So you actually get an email
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with a PDF with your actual form. It used to be prior to 2024. You were actually getting a piece
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of paper with a $200 postage stamp in the top right corner. That was your that was your paper work.
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If you lost it, you know, that was a big deal. Now you're actually getting it as a PDF. You can
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store it on your phone, screenshot it, whatever. I have all of mine in a folder on my phone and a
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digital copy of FISES. So if you ever were out and about shooting and had to produce that paper
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work in tax stamp, a digital copy is just fine. You don't have to print it out and bring it with you
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everywhere you go. So a digital copy is fine and nowadays it sits in everybody's inbox. You just,
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I put them in a folder in my Gmail and everyone's right there. I can just pull it up and
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pull it out of there if I need to produce it. Yeah, look at that. Technology for the win right there.
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Yeah, right. ATF coming into the 21st century. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, guns have been around forever
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and people think like there's a lot of just like, oh, what's the word I'm looking for? You know,
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just a lot of old age to it. People think in like putting, putting, lead balls in muskets and stuff.
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But man, the technology in the firearm industry right now is nuts with like the precision rifle
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in your apps and getting down to like the exact grains and the and the decibels of your suppressors.
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There's so much math in there. It's just crazy and it's fascinating at the same time.
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Yeah, and you know, we're seeing in the suppressor industry specifically 3D printing, right? That
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has become a new tool that we can use. We actually have our vellos line. We make three different vellos
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and those are particularly suited for gas guns, AR-10s, AR-15s. And we 3D print an E.K. Nell core.
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And then we weld that into a 174 stainless front and back. So it's additive and subtractive
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manufacturing in one product. You can you can achieve specific geometry with that 3D printing
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additive manufacturing that you can't with subtractive manufacturing, right? So you get these
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cool channels and things. We have a low back pressure design. So when you're shooting your AR-15,
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your AR-10, you're not getting as much gas back into the face. And that wasn't really possible to
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print a suppressor or suppressor core, you know, 10, 15 years ago. So you know, you'll see,
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I think 3D printing be more of a feature that you're going to see in suppressors down the
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road. And that's a huge thing when you're shooting suppress ARs. Because like if you shoot long
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enough, you can just like smell it. And you can kind of feel like a little bit dizzy and a little
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bit woozy from that gas. But like the advancements you guys are doing nowadays is starting to eliminate
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that and make everything just super efficient and like just all around safer to shoot.
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Absolutely. It's a it's a night and day difference if you're using a standard suppressor to a low
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back pressure suppressor. The gas that you get back in the face is greatly reduced. We also make
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what we call the gas defeating charging handle for AR-15. So it has an o-ring on the bottom of the
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charging handle. And that charging handle sits right in front of your nose and eyes. And if you watch
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a high speed video of someone shooting a suppressed AR-15, a lot of that gas is coming out of that
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charging handle area. So we actually can seal up that portion underneath the charging handle
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and allow more gas to go out the muzzle of the gun through the low back pressure suppressor.
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And it is a huge difference. Much more pleasurable to shoot.
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That's awesome. Yeah, very cool. So now I'd like you to just walk through a couple of your
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top suppressors for each style of weapon. Let's let's talk about like for your
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you know, top one for your pistols for your rim fires for your ARs for your hunting rifles.
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Absolutely. Well, we can start with rim fire if you want. I mentioned before the Sparrow that is
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our very first product. It's our best selling rim fire silencer. It's a monocore baffle system.
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So there's only three pieces on the inside of that can. There's a there's a monocore baffle
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and then there's two little half-pipe. So when you have to take it apart to clean it,
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it's super simple to take apart, super simple to clean and reassemble. That will do everything
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from FN57 down to 22 long, 22 short, 22 mag 17 HMR. So it is very versatile and all the
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calibers that you can shoot it with. Retail those around 300 bucks. So it's not a big
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investment for somebody. And now with the tax stamp going away, you're going to cut $200 off
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the top of that purchase starting in January. So you can get into a really quality rim fire
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suppressor for around 300 bucks. So I would I would encourage everybody to check out the Sparrow
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in our pistol suppressors. My favorite and one of our better sellers is the Specter 9.
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That's an all titanium suppressor. It will shoot everything from 300 blackout super and sub-sonic
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to 9 millimeter 38357 lever guns. It is super light weighs around four ounces. It's very light,
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very small, very quiet for its size. You can actually shoot that on the end of some pistols without a
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booster. So when you attach a pistol suppressor to a browning action tipping style barrel,
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there's a piston that goes in the back of the suppressor that screws onto the can. It's removable
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so you can actually change the different threads. So if you have a a metric barrel or a standard barrel
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or you're going to different calibers, you can change that out. And that that piston has a spring
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on it. And that allows the pistol can to move back and forth as the gun is cycling, it's actually
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giving a little bit of a kick to the to the slide. So we have found that that actually can function
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without a piston and a spring on some barrels because it's so light. That is a really cool suppressor,
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the Specter 9. In our rifle category, I'll probably mention two. We have the tried and true,
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our most popular 30 caliber suppressor of all time, the Omega 300. That is going to run
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everything from 300 wind mag and down. So 223 556 300 blackout, 308 270 anything you can imagine
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under 300 wind mag. And that has been one of our best sellers. It has been our best seller for
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many years. And it's at a great price. You can usually find those around 700 bucks. And then our
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newer one, the Scythe Ti. That's an all titanium 30 caliber hunting style suppressor. We've found
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it to be extremely popular with the PRS crowd, the precision rifle long range crowd. It works on
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ARs, it works on bolt guns, but it weighs around seven ounces. It's about six inches long. You don't
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even really notice it on the end of a hunting rifle. So if you're out west and your climbing mountains
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going out on an elk hunt, you know, ounces make pounds and pounds make pain. And this thing is perfect
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for that guy. It is really, really quiet. It has really exceeded all our expectations. And
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that is the one I would recommend, especially if you've got more of a hunting listener group. Those
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guys should check that out for sure. How about like a temperature dispersion with that? Is that
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something you really want to run like a cover over it? Or is it better than your original?
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So the cover, we usually recommend a suppressor cover for mirage mitigation, especially in the
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hunting and long range shooting. You'll notice when that suppressor gets a little bit hot,
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you're going to get mirage and your optic. So the cover really helps to mitigate the mirage.
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Covers are also very appropriate for someone who's doing hard use. If someone's doing CQB drills
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or three gun and they shoot their suppressor and it's really hot, they sling it down and they go
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to transition to a pistol and that hot suppressor hits their leg. So those two use cases are
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pretty prevalent for suppressor covers. But the titanium, it's not as if you're running one of our
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hard use cans. We have the chimera, the saker, we have the velo's line. Those are more robustly built
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that you can get them hot, you can keep them hot, you can put them on a belt fed. There's no problem
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with heat. With the SIFTI, we typically see that in semi-automatic or bolt action applications.
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So as long as you're using semi-auto or bolt action applications, you're not going to really have
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to worry about the heat. If you're worrying about mirage for an optic, then I would run the cover
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for sure. Gotcha. Okay. Any other ones we haven't talked about yet that you want to plug?
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Let's see, in the rimfire category, the Sparrow is definitely our most popular. We have another
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really cool one called the switchback and that one is modular. So that will allow you to run
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four different configurations. You can run it in a long configuration, a medium or a short,
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and then we also have what's called the rifle optimized position. We actually remove the baffles
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in the in modular and the module. You turn them around, you put them in backwards and that's going
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to give you extra decibel reduction on a 10 inch or longer 22 barrel. So if you want the absolutely
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quietest setup, the switchback is a really, really good one. If you want to run it on different
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hosts, a pistol or rifle, you want it to be short or long, that one gives you some more options.
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And then in the rifle category, we have the Omega 36M. That is definitely one of our most
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popular. It's modular. So you can run it in a long or a short depending on what host weapon you
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want to shoot it on. And that will do everything from 338 Lapua and rifles all the way down to 223,
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556 and 9 millimeter in pistols. So it really does the three most popular calibers that we see for
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suppressors. That's your 956 and 300 blackout. So that one can will run all three of those and more.
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And you can run it in a short configuration on pistols. You can run it in the long configuration
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on rifles or vice versa, however you want. So really nicely optimized to your host.
spk_0
That's really impressive. Okay, question on like your modular ones and the one you were talking about
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where you can like flip it around for increased noise reduction. Is that going to have a lot of
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performance like either make it a lot faster, make it a lot shorter, you're going to have to like
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adjust your scope accordingly for that or is it like minimal difference there?
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Typically no. You may see some point of impact shift if you're changing things around with any
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suppressor. And the shorter you go, the less sound reduction you're going to get. So you know,
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the switchback and the short configuration is just a couple of inches long, right? So it's definitely
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not as effective as the full link version. But if you are putting it on a really small lightweight
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pistol or rifle and you don't want that weight, you kind of have to decide what's the most
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important feature, right? Is it sound reduction? Is it length? Is it weight? And then you you find
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the sweet spot. So the switchback having three different configurations of length is nice for
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someone who can find that that sweet spot. And then in the like omega 36M or our hybrid 46M,
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those two being our center fire rifle slash pistol suppressors. Typically we see the short
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configuration on pistols, the long configuration on rifles for extra sound reduction. But we do
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have some people that run the short configuration on their rifles because again, they're concerned
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more with length and weight than they are with sound. It tends to remain hearing safe with most
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calibers and most barrel links, even in the short configuration, hearing safe being 140 decibels
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under under 140 decibels. Gotcha. This you have given us an overwhelming amount of
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information here. I greatly appreciate your time. It was just a it was a really awesome crash course
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in suppressors. What they can do for you, you know, just a little bit more about I'm taking a
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little bit of the fear and unknown out of them. So just greatly appreciate your time. That was
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that was some awesome information. We're going to link all of the suppressors you talked about in
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the description of this podcast. And again, just thanks for joining us on this one. Thank you,
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I appreciate it. Thank you for having me.