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The Rock Has Officially Responded To Steroid Allegations

In this episode, we delve into the recent steroid allegations against Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson, sparked by noticeable changes in his physique. As he promotes his latest film, fans and criti...

The Rock Has Officially Responded To Steroid Allegations
The Rock Has Officially Responded To Steroid Allegations
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spk_0 So guys Derek, we're placed on AIDS.com today we are checking out this rock situation
spk_0 He is being called a pebble now people are shocked the world is in outrage because he has lost his muscle is what people are saying
spk_0 But let's be honest. He's still a goat. It is not as big of a
spk_0 Melt as people might be suggesting because people don't understand what a baggy Hawaiian shirt is apparently
spk_0 However, like you take anybody with a sick physique and you put him in a baggy Hawaiian shirt and you're gonna
spk_0 Fuck him up in picks for sure like he's not gonna look great
spk_0 It's just how it is however he has absolutely lost a lot of size at the same time and
spk_0 It doesn't help that he just had a role and he's like out there promoting a role where he happens to be playing
spk_0 The most jacked character. He's ever played it essentially short of like the pain and gain role
spk_0 Which was over 10 years ago now and he is in his 50s
spk_0 So on an art like a
spk_0 Proportional perspective. This is like the most jacked relative to like brisk to reward profile role
spk_0 He's ever had and he's had the most significant decrease in size
spk_0 Perciprodously thereafter whereas typically he kind of like maintains
spk_0 Assemblance of what he was in the role if he played somebody who is you know a little bit more jack than what he normally walks around at
spk_0 But now he's showing up to this premiere or you know the promotion of it and looking not just like
spk_0 Typical which is like you know smaller than what he would in the movie because that's not unusual for him to you know
spk_0 Like cycle up and kind of gain a bit of mass and then kind of like you know deflate a bit
spk_0 But he actually looks more like gaunt in the face than probably ever before like this is him at peak
spk_0 There's a lot of people know him as and you know too a fault because this is what people will compare him
spk_0 to
spk_0 Unfortunately, which is not a sustainable you know physique whatsoever
spk_0 And this is what he got to in this role recently which is arguably like
spk_0 Striking distance of his best if not his best
spk_0 And then here is at the you know event in what was a
spk_0 Probably a poor strategic choice if he cared about was people judging you know the the physique and
spk_0 How much weight he's lost or if he's trying to look slimmer? I don't know, but I would imagine it's a
spk_0 Probably not given the fact that he's actually responding to comments in comments
spk_0 comments being made in videos
spk_0 critiquing his
spk_0 His you know weight loss essentially which we'll get too shortly where he actually responded to a guy who basically said he came off of
spk_0 Cycle and he's like you don't know what you're talking about and here he is at the event
spk_0 looking slim looking
spk_0 slender and
spk_0 probably the leanest face we've seen in
spk_0 I don't know like I can't remember a time when he looked this lean in the face since
spk_0 Maybe his like 30s, you know back when he actually was not the the rock as many know him as he was just like a
spk_0 Post I suppose transitioning out of wrestling if he even was but like trying to become like a
spk_0 Series actor but not yet at his transition point to like action star juicy juice rock
spk_0 He was just like rock rock whatever the fuck he would call him, but you get the point
spk_0 And then this is the one people are freaking out about too. It's like really lean
spk_0 Batista asks transformation at this point fortunately
spk_0 He didn't go dripped out in the Gucci like Batista
spk_0 Didn't look his feminine and like you know
spk_0 Accentuating his slunderness to the same degree, but it's kind of in the same vein here is and
spk_0 Man just look in a water depleted lean death face ask
spk_0 Fucking grim reaper cipher fucking ready to go buddy this guy is
spk_0 Looks like he should be stage ready if his face was an indication relative to you know
spk_0 What his face has been in previous years, which is housey like this was him you know not long ago with a lot of mass in the face
spk_0 And you show up to an event looking like this. We would assume you were like negative 10% body fat at this point
spk_0 It's pretty lean so
spk_0 he
spk_0 It's probably lost. I don't know 50 pounds. This is what a lot of people are saying. I don't know if it's that much personally
spk_0 But it's definitely a lot like the role he played he was achieving
spk_0 You know the representation of a MMA legend who was known for being a
spk_0 Sausphaned pre
spk_0 like juice
spk_0 regulation and also a guy who's a genetic freak for muscle building and
spk_0 Being jacked probably one of the most juicy guys ever in the sport and
spk_0 That guy I the craziest shit about it is the rock is doing it in his 50s playing a guy well by the way
spk_0 Like he is representing the role like
spk_0 Like a spitting image of a guy in his 20s who is a phenom on gear and then the guy who's that guy he's playing is
spk_0 Actually nearly the same age as the rock. I believe in real life
spk_0 Which is like the weirdest contrast ever you have a guy who's nearly the same age playing you when you're younger
spk_0 juiced and
spk_0 The guy is in his 50s, you know cranking his face off to get there and doing a good job at it like this is one of the
spk_0 Best for Zix he's had to date probably or at least the juiciest you could art, you know the subjective assessment of if it's the best is obviously
spk_0 Highly individual dependent, but anyway a lot of people are freaking out because this guy so slender now
spk_0 They're like what happened this guy lost it all and
spk_0 Is everything okay?
spk_0 Because it looks it's it's a pretty dramatic shift given he's literally promoting the movie as if it's something like a lot of
spk_0 People don't realize the production was filmed because this is the production schedule back in
spk_0 Filming dates were May 21st 2024 to August 1st 2024. So, you know the most I guess for recent he would have been
spk_0 mid
spk_0 Having to look like this is
spk_0 Over a year ago at this point. So it's been a minute like you're not gonna be sustaining that look
spk_0 past filming dates regardless and
spk_0 Even if there was no, you know like health concerns or anything that would have forced you to you know
spk_0 Like even guys who compete on stage at you know bodybuilding shows
spk_0 They're not gonna look like they do on stage even weeks after and they certainly haven't you know lost at all
spk_0 It's just a process of peaking for this role to look a certain way and then even if you're still you know
spk_0 Juiced out of your gourd. There's gonna be a deflation where you're not you know peaked
spk_0 You're not on camera in the prime condition
spk_0 You're also just not taking what you need to be to support it maximally
spk_0 But you could still easily be juicing your face off just proportionally less or so and not eating like you go
spk_0 You're gonna imagine the sketch is naturally gonna need a break too
spk_0 Even if he's still juicing thereafter and just by nature of taking a break which presumably he's doing to some extent
spk_0 You're gonna lose a fair bit. But this is like the territory of face mass loss is
spk_0 Almost representative of a guy who kind of like went nadi is what a lot of people in the you know fitness community even are kind of
spk_0 Perceiving because it's unusual to see him get that
spk_0 Water depleted looking to if we've ever even seen it like the last we saw him look like that is probably and obviously his age
spk_0 Is playing a factor too coupled with the fact that he's that much leaner. So it's exaggerating to an even more great
spk_0 Magnitude but this was him
spk_0 I think a lot of people don't realize that he actually used to look like this when he was younger
spk_0 He's aren't he's actually still more jack now than he was back then which you know
spk_0 Just goes to show that he definitely hasn't like gone off in my opinion or whatever you want to call it because who knows for sure
spk_0 What's going on?
spk_0 But this was him in his 20s just a fluffy, you know football player essentially who's
spk_0 Transitioning into being a pro wrestler or being a good pro wrestler and he's pretty pretty yolk here
spk_0 But they're after he transitions into you know more full-time acting I think and you kind of see it
spk_0 Play out in the face you see it here the cheekbones the
spk_0 Car V fucking jawline here and just the
spk_0 The appearance is not representative of
spk_0 Anything in recent memory of him from his 40s upwards to his recent 50s
spk_0 He played a guy in his early 30s rolls that looked more just like a well-built good
spk_0 Genetic guy who's fit, but not a guy that's actually going out of his way to enhance to look like the big like meathead
spk_0 Here is 32
spk_0 33 looking very lean 35
spk_0 Like these are if somebody saw that
spk_0 That plus like 18 years or whatever is essentially what you're seeing
spk_0 Physically at this event is like what I'm gathering like he looks more like a
spk_0 What he actually is supposed to look like pre like heavy rock juice era
spk_0 So it's not unusual for people who don't know that he actually is supposed to look like that but
spk_0 For people who know him to be
spk_0 You know the absolute behemoth that he often portrays himself to be on the big screen and shows on social media and his workouts and stuff
spk_0 You're gonna imagine where people are yeah, they're wearing some of the comments that you're seeing
spk_0 He is devolving from the rock to the stone to the people or pebble
spk_0 Watch this space 2030 trying to land Gandhi for his next film
spk_0 I'm surprised that nobody is saying he's a clone
spk_0 Maybe he realized that being juiced up the whole time wasn't doing his liver kidneys or heart any favors
spk_0 Bro looks like a turtle without a shell now lol. He is nothing without his muscles
spk_0 Jesus people is the same character in every single movie he does
spk_0 Comic-coma-coma-coma-coma that's the only unique thing he brings to the table
spk_0 He knows you can't survive being that big. He's a smart cat. He's going for preservation now
spk_0 This not at mad him to so's wax museum. Geez Tiffany fucking harshy when everyone is aging or some things our body limits us
spk_0 We have to accept the changes. It's called baggy clothes. It's not rocket science. Juan got it figured out buddy
spk_0 So I do think this was a pretty poor choice of wardrobe if he didn't want to exaggerate things it looks like almost
spk_0 Potentially like his suit hasn't been
spk_0 even
spk_0 You know tailored to his newly
spk_0 New low of body weight potentially, but the Hawaiian shirt bro like you know
spk_0 You're gonna get lit up by people who don't understand body composition when you're that lean and you're wearing a
spk_0 Biggie shirt like prepare to be told that you don't work out anymore like that is absolutely gonna happen
spk_0 Because people don't get it. It's shocking how many people don't get it too
spk_0 I guarantee you put this guy in the gym with some downloading get him a pump and he looks like
spk_0 Oh back on he's back on buddy when reality he's just still jacked
spk_0 He's just much less jacked and he was you know playing
spk_0 Mark Kerr who is an absolute house is he what he is typically in the off season?
spk_0 Probably not and that's where you're seeing the face which is unusual for him like I said
spk_0 But is it gonna be the norm? I don't know like to for him
spk_0 He's somebody who literally recently justified
spk_0 Bulking up to play what is potentially one of the biggest roles he's ever played ever and then
spk_0 In his early 50s you would imagine embarking on that when you are already like a billionaires essentially with
spk_0 You know infinite choices of things you could do with your life and you have a family relies on you
spk_0 Like are you gonna pick the most risky role you could be doing when you aren't confident that your body can sustain it like
spk_0 Probably not so I would imagine he's had some pretty in-depth
spk_0 Diagnostics to evaluate that this was you know something he could tolerate or had a high likelihood of tolerating well
spk_0 And that's what let him down this road and I imagine if he did that
spk_0 It won't be the last time you see him you know beef up a little bit for some role
spk_0 Is it gonna be to this degree? I don't know it's but there's a potential that this was such a good storyline as well for his
spk_0 Like legacy as an actor that it just coincided with the fact that it further like justified to him why he should
spk_0 Play the part extremely well, which does involve looking the part?
spk_0 So you know kudos to the commitment I suppose and he definitely nailed the look to be determined on the acting
spk_0 Which we will see you know shortly. I imagine but yeah, you know a lot of people are the expected comments
spk_0 You see left right in center on social media and this thing blew up
spk_0 Insanely big because he is a
spk_0 Prominent and outspoken I suppose well, he's not really a prominent fake natty, but he has essentially said
spk_0 Flat out that he is you know doesn't take gear or is you know
spk_0 I think the only admittance admitting he did to anything was
spk_0 You know I took something when I was in my teens and you know it was a
spk_0 Just like a random like pro hormone or something and that was it and
spk_0 Essentially has dodged it for his entire career if not outright kind of
spk_0 Said in a roundabout way that he doesn't do anything. That's where people kind of get on because it's like okay
spk_0 We're like sure this is all just you know natural of course lost 60 pounds because he's off the juice
spk_0 The internet did the same thing with Dave but he's to slim down to it's annoying
spk_0 I saw one tweet the rock is going viral after losing so much weight that he's in the early right unrecognizable
spk_0 Come on
spk_0 Dude you left out the most important thing. He stopped taking steroids not a normal 52 year old look
spk_0 He slimmed down because he had a blockage in his heart Jesus all of the years of steroids caught up to him fact
spk_0 He should come out and warn these kids of the dangers of steroids
spk_0 He doesn't appear to be this height 6.5
spk_0 His earliest and latest weight in WWE was 275 pounds and went up from there before and after juice simple explanation
spk_0 He was number 300 people didn't know the rock before he blew up in movies before fast and furious fast 5
spk_0 Duane's prime was this and this is the physique he's come
spk_0 Come back to you. That's what I'm saying man. Well look at this like he I bet you he's more jacked than he was here
spk_0 Right now in that Hawaiian shirt
spk_0 Might look a bit, you know like older age have a bit more, you know
spk_0 Sagi kind of skin and whatnot, but he's probably
spk_0 Still more jack than this you just can't really tell
spk_0 Because he's not really like doing himself justice walking around in that like this is him young rock who many would still say at the time like you're jacked
spk_0 proportionally so now they would be like wow you fucked up and lost everything but back then
spk_0 When put no one knew that he could have been this
spk_0 Absolute trucks they can have it was you know jacked by any normal person standards
spk_0 So where's that leave us it leaves the internet going ablaze with uh, you know speculation that he's dying with
spk_0 You know rumor mill goes where I is he downsizing forever because he wants to be taken seriously as an actor
spk_0 Is it a health scare is it a what it seems like there are a lot of news outlets that are kind of like coming to his defense
spk_0 I don't know if it's like a PR facilitated thing or on his just
spk_0 Buy them trying to pick up the story and have their own spin on it like one even said he slimmed down for the role
spk_0 It's like what are you talking about? He literally like gained copious amounts of muscle beyond what could ever be
spk_0 Justifiably
spk_0 Justified to do if it wasn't for you know being this character in the most pure essence like there's nothing healthy about what this is
spk_0 Like he gained insane amounts of juice muscle for sure at early 50s and
spk_0 He is tracking me actually commenting on some of it because I guess it is bothering him
spk_0 Which is interesting because typically he's never wanted to speak on these kind of matters
spk_0 But a fitness industry guy who does videos about you know harmonious and whatnot did his critique of the situation and
spk_0 The rock actually commented the rock has officially come off steroids now
spk_0 Love him or hate him this guy is on the top of the charts when it comes to fake natural
spk_0 He's right up there with my co-her however the show looks like it's finally coming to an end
spk_0 He recently found out that he had plaque built up in his circumflex artery from his decades of gear use now
spk_0 The reason why this plaque build up can be so fucking dangerous is because it can lead to heart-tacked strokes or
spk_0 Aneurysms, which is probably why he decided to hop off
spk_0 steroids in general especially when taking in high doses can't have an extremely negative effect on your cholesterol blood thickness and your blood pressure
spk_0 Which can accelerate plaque build up and obviously bro?
spk_0 You don't want this happening to you on your blast
spk_0 So that's what you're gonna do to make sure you prevent this from happening first off
spk_0 You want to make sure that your full support stack is in place in terms of your supplements
spk_0 You want to make sure that you got nati kinase caug 10 citrus bergamot all your fish oil and telmasartan as well
spk_0 You also want to make sure that you're keeping your fat under control
spk_0 Do not have a high body fat percentage when you're taking a blast and also make sure you're doing your cardio at least three times a week
spk_0 You also want to make sure that you're not combining parting with your fucking cycle
spk_0 Don't smoke excessively do not drink excessively do not combine parting with your fucking cycle bitch
spk_0 This can all accelerate plaque build up massively and you also want to make sure you're on top of your labs as frequent as possible at the bear minimum
spk_0 Get them done pre-med and post blasts, but if you can I'd get them done every couple weeks when you're starting out
spk_0 You want Jesus Christ? That's like super aggressive
spk_0 Like I get you know the
spk_0 risk a version for sure, but uh, that's that's even that's pretty frequent
spk_0 Also want to make sure you get your heart checked pre cycle get an echo and an EKG's is absolutely mandatory to make sure you don't have a
spk_0 Preexisting heart condition if all that shit's in check and you make sure you keep your dose as low
spk_0 You don't run toxic as fuck compounds like anodrol or trendy should be good to go
spk_0 But just keep in mind anything you take will come aside
spk_0 It's always be on top of your goddamn blood work and if you need help with your blossom specific
spk_0 Give me the fuck up. Let's get to work the rock is it dude. I was so fast paced. I was like trying to absorb everything and I just
spk_0 It's a holy shit. But anyway the rock. This is a hundred percent not true
spk_0 Like you imagine him just like sitting there watching this video just feeling what the fuck man
spk_0 This is bullshit. I got a comment on this one
spk_0 Of all the ones he has to comment on it and um, you know obvious obvious logical replies like no way real like why
spk_0 Why are you even here, you know? Can you smell what the rock is cooking LMFA of the rock has hurt
spk_0 Uh, so you know like what's not true?
spk_0 He's got a lot of things in here and I guess the main thing is right at the beginning
spk_0 He basically says before transitioning into you know what the precautionary measures are to avoid getting to the place that
spk_0 You know supposedly the rock is out where he's forced to cycle off because
spk_0 He's basically dying
spk_0 He is coming off because of that officially come off steroids now
spk_0 Love him or hate him this guy is on the top of the charts when he comes to fake natural
spk_0 He's right up there with my co-her however the show looks like it's finally coming to an end
spk_0 He recently found out that he had plaque built up in his circumflex artery from his decades of gear use
spk_0 So decades of hormonius
spk_0 Equal-ing plaque build up in your arteries and this is what he found out supposedly and now it's like
spk_0 He finishes this movie and now it's time to get healthy and stop uh, you know risking it for the biscuit or whatever
spk_0 The saying is is that a saying? I don't know. Just pop to my head though and
spk_0 He is
spk_0 Presumably, you know done forget you would think if this was indeed true
spk_0 He says this is 100% not true though
spk_0 And the clip he's referring to when he says the plaque build up. It's coming from I assume
spk_0 This podcast he did recently with doctor
spk_0 Mark
spk_0 Hyman and
spk_0 Basically, they talk about a preventative
spk_0 approach to
spk_0 Healthcare and staying on top of diagnostics and what you can learn from getting you know proactive blood work and a bunch of stuff that
spk_0 It's kind of odd for the rock to be doing something like this given. He is
spk_0 Typically averse to talking about anything related to something that could be like spun on him
spk_0 Like as far as I can tell he's pretty good at controlling the narrative of what he goes on like he's gonna make sure stuff doesn't come up
spk_0 Whether it's communicated beforehand or I don't know like I imagine he has a pretty
spk_0 rigorous approach to making sure he doesn't have to talk about steroids or
spk_0 Whatever but in here he's like coming on to talk about stuff that's wrong with him or he thought was wrong with him
spk_0 And it's kind of like sugar coated to whatever degree they want to do it
spk_0 Obviously because they're friends and this is supposedly his actual doctor
spk_0 But my interpretation of it is they kind of want to show that he get some value out of this
spk_0 Service that they provide which is like a typical kind of like a diagnostic service that you get some like
spk_0 You know take away as that can then be applied to optimize yourself and some people find more
spk_0 You know alarming genetic predispositions or problems. They had no way they had the ideas you if you get in front of it
spk_0 You avoid disease before you end up you know dealing with and trying to work backwards
spk_0 Which is far more difficult far more problematic and who wants to be
spk_0 You know in the dark on their health. It's best to be
spk_0 proactive and optimizing where you can to some degree obviously not to the degree of like fear mongering yourself into pursuing every little
spk_0 You know rabbit hole of you know blips that shows up
spk_0 But if you have reasonable
spk_0 Education going into and kind of know what you're looking for or have somebody educated on your side
spk_0 That you can trust that is not going to lead you astray. It can be quite a good thing
spk_0 My interpretation of this was probably that he is on here to help promote the service because I think he has an investor
spk_0 In the company. I believe they actually disclose that at some point during the show or at least they should have
spk_0 But investing in this company
spk_0 Obviously the upside for both of them mutually is to talk about his experience with it and like the value he got out of the service
spk_0 Which is fine, but it's like probably why this is the only time he's ever going to talk about this kind of stuff
spk_0 And they end up talking about his you know what they thought might have been athroes chlorosis
spk_0 being detected via
spk_0 You know what do they get like some typical kind of like proactive imaging which by the way when you are at this age like
spk_0 having a like good
spk_0 Cack score is not unusual so
spk_0 having some like
spk_0 But also to that effect having plaque
spk_0 At this age is not
spk_0 unexpected nor is it uncommon in fact it would be more
spk_0 likely that somebody would have plaque than not in their early fifties
spk_0 Just putting that pretence out there and we'll give context as to why and sick
spk_0 And I just I was never a medication guy like I wasn't taking any kind of medications or anything like that and even now
spk_0 As it relates to my heart, you know
spk_0 Oh, that was an interesting
spk_0 Intro to talking about it
spk_0 I just felt like stopping because that was a really weird
spk_0 Transition who basically says like I haven't taken any medications and then it's like for my heart. It's like
spk_0 I don't know like a is like a bit of a white lie sort of thing like how can I say I don't take medications when I'm like a literal
spk_0 Walking pharmacy for this movie I'm doing and then he just like the caveat is like for my heart
spk_0 I've actually never taken anything all of a sudden you're rolling along in life and things are good and then you reach your fifth level of life
spk_0 Like I get the sense the guy doesn't I could be wrong, but I get the sense he doesn't like to lie
spk_0 He's just very good like tactfully like almost like a politician
spk_0 maneuvering around the subjects in order to avoid lying
spk_0 That's at least my take like he gives
spk_0 Some like again, he's an actor for a living. So maybe I'm totally being you know, let us stray and by his
spk_0 impeccable acting skills, but I get the sense he doesn't want to like fly it out tell people lies
spk_0 So he just kind of like sugar coats and maneuvers very effectively
spk_0 Life and you realize that oh you're of age. Yeah, 53 now when you become 53
spk_0 And then so when you become of age, that's when all the tests start to happen, right?
spk_0 So the thing is is like typically people are not going to be doing preventative
spk_0 things for cardiovascular workups at like you know 50 years old
spk_0 Typically it's going to be
spk_0 Perceded by like an event like cardiovascular event is typically going to be what then yield at least you know
spk_0 With a reactive typical health care is going to be what then yields looking at this stuff more meticulously
spk_0 Or if you had you know family history and you kind of like new to be looking at the stuff
spk_0 But typically people are not going to be thinking I should be detecting you know like the emergence of plaque build up early on
spk_0 And seeing if I need to you know get in front of it with you know preventative medications and whatnot
spk_0 They guess on a typical approach
spk_0 So for him like this is representative of somebody who's trying to be proactive in a what I would say is a good way
spk_0 But it's a unique
spk_0 Not typical way and
spk_0 Not necessarily something that like everyone has the financial means to facilitate because he's going to be talking shortly about
spk_0 You know imaging he got done and then like as a follow-up to that subsequent like AI
spk_0 Like assessed more meticulous imaging with a new cardiologist coming into evaluate it and
spk_0 You know reinterpretations of things, but anyway, I digress and I'll let him finish her
spk_0 Okay, where's a colonoscopy line? Let's do that. Hey, here's the cardiovascular workup. And that's by the way
spk_0 That's not to say that this isn't a good idea to do a lot all the stuff he's saying is like a good idea to do
spk_0 It's just the the cardiovascular thing is like often
spk_0 quite neglected
spk_0 because people don't realize
spk_0 how
spk_0 Prevalented is and how early it starts the leading cause of death in the US is still hard disease and
spk_0 Within that the subsect of the cause of that hard disease is
spk_0 most often going to be
spk_0 Atroschlerosis so plaque build up in the arteries and this is something that manifests early in life like as early as you know
spk_0 Like teenage hood you start to stack plaque in your arteries and most people are not exempt from this
spk_0 Even metabolically fit individuals a lot of them will still have some level of plaque
spk_0 Accumulation and this will be present at some
spk_0 Small quantities likely in your fifties or significant quantities depending on how genetically
spk_0 Pronear diet model metabolic health etc exercise all the basics, but also
spk_0 there is a
spk_0 kind of inevitable component of
spk_0 The main causes of death which is essentially hard disease and cancer that you are almost certainly at some point
spk_0 Going to succumb to one of those two things and the probabilities at least in the states are
spk_0 It's going to be more than likely hard disease and as somebody who is a massive human with more stress to actually
spk_0 Facilitate heart functionality than normal person as well as
spk_0 exposing themselves to
spk_0 Hormone that do cause dyslipidemia and oxidative stress and things that are at a super like risk level and can cause
spk_0 a more problematic
spk_0 Environment for developing hard disease. It's something to be on top of
spk_0 Very early if not you know avoid entirely to avoid that extra risk layered on top of what is already the leading cause of death among
spk_0 Natural because you have to keep in mind too. This is
spk_0 Ultimately going to be the thing that kills most people even those who don't use steroids
spk_0 So although it is something that is worth calling out
spk_0 For hormone users it is something that should not be neglected or ignored by the
spk_0 Normal person who does not use their roads even people who are otherwise you know
spk_0 Exercising think they're in great health. It is not unlikely that you will still succumb to hard disease
spk_0 Later in life, you know the probabilities are in the favor of that you probably will and avoiding that can be
spk_0 Facilitated through proactive oversight of this stuff in particular
spk_0 Athrogenic burden potential and also blood pressure modulation and some of this low hanging fruit stuff
spk_0 But this that he's about to get into is it's interesting because he basically says they know his plaque in his arteries
spk_0 And a lot of people took that and ran with it and basically said the guy is dying and he's gonna have a heart attack
spk_0 And is wise getting off but there's a bit more to it
spk_0 Let's look at the heart and let's look at all the valves and things like that
spk_0 So when I was looking at the valves and this was
spk_0 A little bit before you and I met yeah, but just as we met yeah, I was looking at the valves
spk_0 And I had a complete cardiovascular work up and everything and it looked great
spk_0 Thank God knock on with and then there was what looked to be
spk_0 um
spk_0 What looked to be some what looked to be some stuff inside that like a buildup of like a buildup of what they thought was plaque
spk_0 What they thought was plaque in the circumflex valve in the artery. Yeah, in the artery right and um
spk_0 And even know what that I never even heard of that
spk_0 That sounds cool around the back of your heart. Now I know that right
spk_0 I always hear the the main two. Yeah, that's what you hear. Yeah, but for those listening like me
spk_0 I was unaware that we also have a really important one
spk_0 That goes around the back the circumflex
spk_0 There was some buildup or so they thought and then when we looked at that on the old school
spk_0 Traditional MRI and the scans it looked like I had built up and then immediately the call to action was all right
spk_0 Well, let's get you on this medication
spk_0 It's a multi-month medication and here we go. We got to get on it right away and I thought God
spk_0 And I was so hesitant because I wasn't taking in medication. So then I called you
spk_0 Yeah, and I said doc listen here's what I got. I'm not inditing anybody. I'm not throwing anybody under the bus, but
spk_0 What do you think? Yeah, and here's what their suggestion is and again, I'll never forget on that zoom
spk_0 You went okay hold on hold on
spk_0 Let's not jump to conclusions. I don't want you getting on that right now. Don't get on the medication
spk_0 Uh, there's a couple of steps here. I think that we can do that could be invaluable for it for example
spk_0 Let's get a scan done, but let's get an AI scan done. Yeah, that is incredible and I said okay
spk_0 We got the scan done you sent it to your guy and and then it came back and you know, it was almost like
spk_0 You know, when you hear a song for the first time you're like, oh, we fuck. I love that song. That sounds great
spk_0 So I remember when you told me you said hey look
spk_0 Here's the report from our cardiale our head cardiologist is a very good friend of yours. Yeah said um that he said
spk_0 Looks great. It is just an anatomical thing that's happening back there. It's not built up at all. Yeah, it's valves look great
spk_0 Come back in three years and what was amazing was you know your your cholesterol is actually
spk_0 Pretty good. I mean you had you had low HGL genetically, which is the poke good cholesterol. Mm-hmm. It's a little oversimplification, but
spk_0 You know, we did a deeper panel of your cardiopastor risk factors
spk_0 We looked at things like apob which is now being declared as this sort of the best biomarker for your heart
spk_0 Which again most doctors don't they don't do that right? No, we looked at your you know insulin metapolocal
spk_0 You know blood sugar insulin which nobody really looks at me or insulin resistance score, which was perfect
spk_0 You didn't really have any of the risk factors your inflammation level was super low
spk_0 Interesting that that is noticed. He says HDL was genetically low. It's like
spk_0 How did you determine that like the guy obviously came to you relatively recently and has been on hormones probably for years
spk_0 Like he has a low HDL because it's like the number one
spk_0 Thing that happens when you take gear that's reflected in biomarkers with exception of like the crushing of genetic opens
spk_0 You will have suppressed HDL
spk_0 So I thought that was an interesting like caveat. He's like it's genetic
spk_0 Not just you have low HDL. He probably knows that the endergenius will
spk_0 Have that on your blood work to give him a little bit of a cop out there, but
spk_0 Regardless interesting. So it's not always going to be something that is
spk_0 Incredibly like he basically got a second opinion in this guy like totally disagrees with the first guy
spk_0 It's highly likely that you could have had a third guy come in and say you know the first guy was probably right for all we know
spk_0 Interestingly though to me more so than the the HDL thing is the fact that he is
spk_0 Speaking about this anatomical
spk_0 unique like structural abnormality that is not that's getting confused for plaque accumulation
spk_0 If this was something you had done before like presumably
spk_0 This is something that would have been noticed because it wouldn't have been changing if it was an anatomical like
spk_0 Very unique structural thing inherent to your your body
spk_0 This would have been picked up before if he had ever had preventative screening done by his account
spk_0 He is suggesting that he's never had brought like screening done
spk_0 Despite the fact that he is the highest paid athlete. Oh my athlete
spk_0 Actor on the planet. I believe a guy who is one of the highest paid and
spk_0 One of the most who needs to rely on being like a big jacked
spk_0 Probably on hormones guy to be that most paid actor
spk_0 And yet at his in his 50s he had not even had the screening done like it just goes to show like a lot of people are always like
spk_0 Oh, you know these people have the best trainers and they have the best this and they have the best that they have the best access to this and that
spk_0 It's like oftentimes despite the fact that they have all this money and all these resources. They like
spk_0 There's no one in their camp that's like actually
spk_0 Properly advising how to be thorough and diligent and then it just goes unchecked because they don't even know
spk_0 They should be checking this stuff until they're you know like quote unquote old enough or whatever
spk_0 Like the guy has been exposing himself to huge risks fluctuating body weights
spk_0 Using significant amounts of hormones probably eating 6,000 to 8,000 calories today supposedly which is absolutely not
spk_0 You know going to be healthy for you ultimately the fact that he had not actually done any sort of like imaging until that point
spk_0 It's pretty fucking wild to me like there are guys now who are
spk_0 educated and being as careful as possible
spk_0 Getting imaging done as early as like their 20s to make sure that they have
spk_0 Don't have any predispositions or problems before they actually go down the route of enhancements because they're you know
spk_0 Serious about competing or what have you and you have a guy like the rock who's 50
spk_0 You know probably when he did this or whatever because relatively recently and he's you know 53 now I think
spk_0 And he still hasn't even fucking checked, you know his heart like that's crazy
spk_0 He's that basic blood work and whatnot it sounds like but not actual
spk_0 Imaging done to see it or there any structural defects have I actually caused any like you know cardiac remodeling that is going to be detrimental
spk_0 Is there anything that should preclude me from ever doing this you know like it is it's crazy to me because you would have
spk_0 Somebody would have picked that up if that was done before like it would have been identified
spk_0 Misidentified as black if that's actually what would happen or somebody would have identified that was like a weird structural thing
spk_0 So you know that was kind of baffling to me and but you know he got it done great
spk_0 And if he is indeed like plaque free as they are suggesting that would actually put him in like a rare kind of like
spk_0 Probably like a unique uncommon subsect of the population of uh, you know the the US essentially where he's actually
spk_0 More healthy from a plaque accumulation standpoint or a you know
spk_0 Athariclerosis potential standpoint
spk_0 then the majority of
spk_0 People in the country because at that point if you are getting like the most rigorous of testing done
spk_0 And you're seeing nothing at all if it was actually properly evaluated by somebody who's like not just trying to tell him what he wants to hear
spk_0 Like you would expect plaque buildup by your fifties like even if you're not on gear
spk_0 So the fact if it is indeed true like that's in my opinion would kind of lead to the conclusion that he's probably like
spk_0 I could probably do more of this shit
spk_0 I can probably you know do more of these roles in the future and maybe he just wants a break and that's why he's smaller now
spk_0 You know like he's just you might he it's possible that he is
spk_0 downsizing
spk_0 Periodically and we'll blast back up again because he's had this you know like clean bill of health
spk_0 But who knows I do think that it's overblown, you know the size loss
spk_0 I do think that it's unique though. He has definitely shot down to something that is
spk_0 oddly gaunt relative to his previous you know like off seasons
spk_0 But he is also getting older and in general
spk_0 It's also gonna be harder to hold that mass even when you're on or moan still
spk_0 I'm not saying that he's still blasting what he is the water attention or lack there of what suggests otherwise
spk_0 But I don't think it was the last of him, you know
spk_0 Beafin it up for rules and I think that if this is not just like a puff-piece slash sugar coated
spk_0 Saggment and indeed this was what his cardiovascular workup showed like if anything he's probably being
spk_0 Green lit to keep pushing. Hey, he's looking at guys like oh her and he's like this guy still fucking cranking
spk_0 And he's what going to 16 he's like not even a tenth of an actor. I am so like obviously if he justifies it
spk_0 I should do that, you know like why would you not so there's a lot of uh
spk_0 You can imagine this guy is at the prime of his life for career potential
spk_0 cementing your legacy if you get a clean bill of health for
spk_0 ASCVD potential and
spk_0 You otherwise have no concerns from like a cardiovascular
spk_0 Structural standpoint. You don't have high blood pressure. You don't have sleep apnea. It's being everything's taken care of from a
spk_0 Anatomical standpoint like this guy's like fuck. I just got to avoid cancer and I can uh
spk_0 Saus my face off again, you know, that's what I would imagine
spk_0 Even the fluctuating of body weight though in itself is unhealthy and it's gonna continue to be more difficult to push
spk_0 Up and down the way he is and I imagine is still a matter of time before he goes full bettist on us and kind of just
spk_0 Colesy quits, but even bettist that recently I think he justified going up to what like 300
spk_0 Like he got not just jack. He got like fat from what I recall
spk_0 um for a role and
spk_0 He deemed it worthwhile and then you know came back down after well he do that again
spk_0 I don't know
spk_0 But I imagine if a good enough opportunity came up and he had a clean bill of health like this supposedly
spk_0 He probably would let me know you guys think
spk_0 worthwhile stupid as the sked done for good is he now going to become a
spk_0 Method actor who relies solely on his skills or is he gonna have to sauce it up again
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