QLS Classic: Robin Thede

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spk_0 What up, y'all. It's Laiya from Quest Love Supreme. And on this classic episode, we're taking

spk_0 you back to November 29, 2017 for our first conversation with our good friend Robin Theddy.

spk_0 Now, this is before she was a big-time showrunner. Shout out to a Black Lady sketch show.

spk_0 This is when the writer, comedian and late-night host talks about her life in front of and behind

spk_0 the camera, her puppetry skills, uh-huh, and everything you need to know about her past show,

spk_0 The Run Down. Oh, and if you enjoy this episode, you've got to hear when she came to join us on this

spk_0 year's Roots Pick Nick Stage from June 2022. Oh, yeah, that's a good one too. It's always fun with

spk_0 our good friend Robin. So enjoy.

spk_0 Uh, I'll skip to the letter T-E. Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, it's Robin Theddy.

spk_0 Yeah, another supreme.

spk_0 Yeah, and I'm raging mad. Yeah, about angry white ladies in Laiya's case.

spk_0 Oh, it's like supreme, it's like supreme, a rocon, supreme, a-sup, supreme, a rocon.

spk_0 It's like E.M. And it's going to be a classic. Yeah. Robin Theddy. Yeah. Now that's Black Girl Magic.

spk_0 Oh, it's like supreme, it's like supreme, a rocon, supreme, a-sup, supreme, a rocon.

spk_0 I'm Robin Theddy. Yeah. I'm in my groove. Yeah. And I don't dance. Yeah. Make my name move.

spk_0 Roca, supreme, a-sup, supreme, a rocon, supreme, a-sup, supreme, a rocon.

spk_0 Sup, supreme, a-sup, supreme, a rocon.

spk_0 That was like 54 bars. I know. What the hell? Yeah, I did not know so many things

spk_0 robbed with my name. It was dope. Yes, it was because we really just wanted to reiterate

spk_0 that it is Theddy. Yes, that is true. I wanted it to be. I know.

spk_0 Yeah, we were all having. I know. Halfway through, I almost felt like I was in church.

spk_0 Yeah, indeed. It's like, it's very good. I hope you're a believer now.

spk_0 Don't be needy. I forgot that. Okay, Jeff Tweedie for Wilco. I forgot to shout out Jeff Tweedie.

spk_0 Shout out to you. That beaty was brilliant. Michael Jackson. Hey, hey, come on.

spk_0 Ladies and gentlemen, our guest today is a writer, comedian, actress, director, producer,

spk_0 author, chef, boxer. My God. Boxer. She's the current president. We got to five long times.

spk_0 And I'm a boxer. Exactly. You're the president of the United States right now. I'm declaring that

spk_0 you're the former showrunner. What's happening now? It was my crowning achievement.

spk_0 Yeah, I just write the what's going down episode. The what's going on? Yes.

spk_0 You've been a butcher baker, a candlestick maker, maker, breaker, and title breaker.

spk_0 She is currently breaking new ground on BT's weekly news program called the one day comedy program.

spk_0 Oh, okay. Well, based on the news. Well, it's just I don't want people to think that I'm actually

spk_0 reporting the news because they'll be very confused. But I assure you that the only way to digest the

spk_0 news in 2017 is through comedy. Yes, that is true. It's a very informative show. So I see it. I mean,

spk_0 you're the you're the new Ed who was a good boy. Can you please say the new the Black John

spk_0 Stewart and said yeah, he was not. Ladies and gentlemen, we welcome to Quest Love's Supreme Black

spk_0 John Stewart. I took that bad Trevor. No, we're probably wants to be called the

spk_0 he knows the vaginal John Stewart. I don't know. Anyway, this show is going to be

spk_0 all night. Can I curse? Yes. I think you're the host of the show. No, I am not the host of the show.

spk_0 No, please, please. I just wanted to be casual amongst six friends. Yeah. You know, so how are you?

spk_0 Thank you, Robin for doing this. Thank you. You know what? You guys are over here killing it.

spk_0 As always. Thank you. You're killing it as well. Thank you. You know, listen, I'm two episodes in

spk_0 and I feel like I'm pretty much mastered the craft. And actually by the time this airs, I'll be like a

spk_0 good like five deep. So I will have collected all the Emmys. All the hoodies. All the, is that

spk_0 that's true? That's true. Yes, it is. Yeah, it is. Right? 30s. Yes. Yeah. So pretty much I'm on top of the world.

spk_0 Yeah, it's great. That's good. Um, let's wait. Let's visit to a time when you were in the bottom of the world.

spk_0 Oh, oh, God. Now it gets said. I don't want to take us back to the beginning.

spk_0 Oh, you know what? I know everybody goes back to the beginning. I'm like, no one cares about the

spk_0 beginning. Let's talk about the last quarter. What you said?

spk_0 Aren't you proud that I'm not missing the last quarter like the last time.

spk_0 You know, who he was at the lag quarter?

spk_0 You know the lag quarter. I'm not personally, but I've heard of it. I've heard tale. Of course.

spk_0 No, but I have to say, even when I met you, and this is the weird thing, like this is the one

spk_0 super can't, I hope to have a very super candid episode. Oh, good. Of course, love is the

spk_0 because I had no Robin. Well, well, not like biblically, but I mean,

spk_0 you're right. I know. Yeah.

spk_0 We've been friends a lot. She's my pal. So, you know, but I have to say that even when you

spk_0 told me that back in when we first met that you were born in Iowa, I know. It's weird.

spk_0 I will say that of the six black women that I do know from Iowa.

spk_0 You know, yes. I know.

spk_0 That's a big number. You're the only one that's not in a certain industry.

spk_0 Farming? Stripping? Oh, stripping.

spk_0 What? Because they're here.

spk_0 For sure, that's for sure.

spk_0 Is it porn? I have to say that.

spk_0 It's porn. It's porn. I got you.

spk_0 I was churned out the most alarming rate of black porn.

spk_0 No, actresses.

spk_0 Really? What?

spk_0 And me alone.

spk_0 But here's the thing that wouldn't like, would say and you alone.

spk_0 There's black porn.

spk_0 And it's called evidence usually.

spk_0 No, with like, mental level intelligence.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 And it's crazy to me. I'm glad you avoided.

spk_0 Well, first of all, that's rude that you're assuming I'm not also doing that in my spare time.

spk_0 You don't know what I'm capable of.

spk_0 No, yeah, I did not know that statistic.

spk_0 Usually people go, there's black people in Iowa when they find out that I'm from Iowa.

spk_0 No, I know.

spk_0 No, I left. There's no more.

spk_0 Yeah, no, my mother is actually, you know, this.

spk_0 My mother's estate representative.

spk_0 She was the first black woman to ever be elected to her district.

spk_0 So yeah, black people still make a move.

spk_0 I think so.

spk_0 Are there a lot of first in your family?

spk_0 Because you are already.

spk_0 I'm like 18 first just right now.

spk_0 Yeah, all more than that.

spk_0 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

spk_0 What are the first besides first show runner or first?

spk_0 Yeah, head writer, black female head writer,

spk_0 late night show.

spk_0 I was the first black female to be the head writer at the Coral Respondents dinner.

spk_0 Yeah, I can't wait to talk about that.

spk_0 Yeah, I did not know that.

spk_0 Yes, I was the first.

spk_0 I think I think we know we haven't confirmed this,

spk_0 but I think I was the first black woman to be the head writer of a daytime show

spk_0 and a night time show and a nightly comedy show.

spk_0 I was the daytime show.

spk_0 At the same time.

spk_0 I'm not the same time, but I was Queen Latipha's head writer.

spk_0 That's right.

spk_0 Latipha.

spk_0 I don't have a lot of shit for her.

spk_0 Amazingly.

spk_0 I only do things if it's first.

spk_0 She used to work for a show that formerly had the at QLS.

spk_0 Oh, Queen Latipha show.

spk_0 Yeah, that is so true.

spk_0 But because the show was going on, now I had to, you know, sort of.

spk_0 Yeah, that's fine.

spk_0 They don't need it.

spk_0 This, this, this pays to be friends with business at Twitter.

spk_0 I just said, hey, guys, the show doesn't exist anymore.

spk_0 Damn, you got them to delete their old Twitter account.

spk_0 No archive.

spk_0 No nothing.

spk_0 Wow.

spk_0 I mean, the links are going to work.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Y'all are powerful.

spk_0 I love you are.

spk_0 I try.

spk_0 So, okay.

spk_0 So you grew up in a political family.

spk_0 Yeah, I did.

spk_0 And it was interesting because my dad was actually a Republican.

spk_0 My dad is white.

spk_0 My mom was black from the West Side of Chicago.

spk_0 My dad's white from a farm in Iowa.

spk_0 He met my mother in the 70s.

spk_0 She had a big ass Afro first day at college.

spk_0 He said, I want her.

spk_0 She's in college in Iowa.

spk_0 Yeah, they went to college in Iowa from Chicago.

spk_0 And they met and been married 40,

spk_0 40 some ideas.

spk_0 Yeah, they're still best friends.

spk_0 What is parents?

spk_0 I don't, what is parents?

spk_0 What is parents?

spk_0 I can hear like he's brain just like, I know it's crazy.

spk_0 It's crazy.

spk_0 It's at a very unrealistic standard for me.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I was like, I thought this was supposed to be forever.

spk_0 Like every first boyfriend I had, I was like,

spk_0 we're going to be together forever.

spk_0 And they were like, I don't even know your last name.

spk_0 But yeah, so they met and yeah, they're still together.

spk_0 But yeah, what was the question about Iowa?

spk_0 How do the coalesces do you know from?

spk_0 Yeah, none.

spk_0 I don't know any.

spk_0 But yeah, so my family was always political.

spk_0 My dad was a Republican growing up.

spk_0 And then by the time George Bush Jr. came in,

spk_0 he had came over to the right side.

spk_0 I was going to say he was or, okay.

spk_0 So he's now.

spk_0 Yes, now he's everybody's on the same team.

spk_0 Wow, still.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 What do you mean?

spk_0 I got a check.

spk_0 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

spk_0 Like he just saw Trump.

spk_0 And was like, hey, yeah, let's do this.

spk_0 No, no, he's like the, he talks the most shit about Trump.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Like, yeah, because he's like, this is not the way it's supposed to be.

spk_0 Because I think I said this the other day to a group.

spk_0 I was like, I think white people are now like,

spk_0 you know, like they look at Trump and they're like,

spk_0 hey, hey, I don't want to be associated with that.

spk_0 You know, it's like how all black people are like,

spk_0 hey, don't, you know, don't lump us all together.

spk_0 We're not the same.

spk_0 But now I think white people are starting to feel like that.

spk_0 Because you can't tell a Trump supporter

spk_0 when they're white from, you know, from a non-Trump supporter.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 So yeah, so it's good.

spk_0 It's good.

spk_0 My dad is dope.

spk_0 He has a family photo, black women.

spk_0 I have two sisters.

spk_0 So it's just another, but black ladies in the family.

spk_0 Are you, where do you fall in the middle?

spk_0 I'm in the middle.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Yeah, so I'm the annoying.

spk_0 So you were a janitor.

spk_0 Attention is starved.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 I was tapped dancing.

spk_0 Is this why you're where you are right now?

spk_0 I'm sure.

spk_0 I think so.

spk_0 Like I'm a Leo.

spk_0 I'm a middle child.

spk_0 And my father forced me into comedy very early on.

spk_0 He named me after Robin Williams.

spk_0 I found out after Robin Williams died.

spk_0 And I didn't know that.

spk_0 But I was always funny and weird and cookie.

spk_0 And like I would always just imitate.

spk_0 We, you know, we didn't have cables.

spk_0 So I used to always just, you know,

spk_0 imitate like the news and like, you know,

spk_0 whatever sitcoms were on.

spk_0 So they always just thought I was weird.

spk_0 I just sit in a dark room and mimic everything I saw on television.

spk_0 And then at night, my dad, like on the weekends,

spk_0 he would let me watch like Caroline's used to have.

spk_0 Caroline's, I'll probably used to have a TV show where they would have like

spk_0 comedians on.

spk_0 It was like a two in the morning on NBC local affiliates.

spk_0 This would play.

spk_0 And then we stole cable.

spk_0 We lived in a trailer park.

spk_0 My dad Jerry rigged the cable from the trailer to doors down

spk_0 and wired it over the middle trailer to R.

spk_0 So we could get cable to watch thriller.

spk_0 And so we could watch.

spk_0 He got it.

spk_0 The first time to get thriller.

spk_0 And then he duct taped it.

spk_0 So we kept it for a little while.

spk_0 Tell somebody cut it.

spk_0 But the other thing I remember watching, I know this is crazy.

spk_0 Wait, wait, wait.

spk_0 How did someone, someone as in the cable company or someone realized?

spk_0 No, like the neighbor we were stealing it from was like,

spk_0 stop stealing our shit, you know.

spk_0 So, so, you know, check the park.

spk_0 It's rough.

spk_0 People not nice to each other, not neighborly.

spk_0 But, um, but so.

spk_0 Oh, just.

spk_0 She's so on the chain.

spk_0 I don't have nothing to say.

spk_0 He.

spk_0 But no, so, so, so we got it to watch thriller.

spk_0 And that was dope.

spk_0 And I hid behind my Bible watching thriller.

spk_0 Because I was scared and I thought that I was little.

spk_0 I was like, too.

spk_0 I was like, tiny.

spk_0 It was scary.

spk_0 Yeah, it was scary.

spk_0 You should.

spk_0 So, but I remember that.

spk_0 And then I remember later on when we had stole cable the second time

spk_0 that we had, uh, he used to let me watch.

spk_0 What was the show with Robin Williams and Will be Goldberg?

spk_0 It was the first time I ever saw.

spk_0 I'm a comic.

spk_0 Yeah, I'm really.

spk_0 So that was the first time I had ever seen a black woman telling jokes.

spk_0 And I was like, yo, what is this?

spk_0 Wait, so you didn't see the first stand up the Broadway one when she was like,

spk_0 the, um, I don't think I was a lot.

spk_0 Fontaine.

spk_0 You damn robber.

spk_0 Oh, I mean, I don't think I was.

spk_0 What are you?

spk_0 She's, she's, we're, we're her elders.

spk_0 I don't think I was.

spk_0 We're the same.

spk_0 Sorry.

spk_0 I think like we're the two.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Yeah, like, I don't think so.

spk_0 There's probably a seven in your birthday.

spk_0 Were you in high school in the 90s or no?

spk_0 Oh, and the.

spk_0 Don't answer that question.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 I wasn't even lying in the 90s.

spk_0 What are you talking about?

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 I made all of it.

spk_0 So, but no, so, so, so I saw her.

spk_0 And then he let me watch.

spk_0 They showed her one woman show on PBS.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 It's like an anniversary special over and over.

spk_0 And that's the first time I saw it.

spk_0 And I was just blown away by this woman.

spk_0 Like, absolutely blown away.

spk_0 And then my dad, like, let me stay up and watch.

spk_0 I remember we could stay up and watch SNL

spk_0 until the, um, until weekend update came on.

spk_0 Then we had to go to sleep.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 So we got to watch, you know, halfway through.

spk_0 Is that a time thing or do it?

spk_0 A time thing for them.

spk_0 It was just like, okay, that means at whatever time in the midway.

spk_0 Something that was around midnight, we could go to sleep.

spk_0 Because they already go to church or something.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 We were in church three days a week.

spk_0 Oh.

spk_0 Ooh.

spk_0 What church is that?

spk_0 Seven days of Venice.

spk_0 No.

spk_0 Three days of adventure.

spk_0 No, we were just like, so, because we were,

spk_0 we were in the perform, like the only way we could get performing arts

spk_0 was through church programs.

spk_0 So we were in the acting group and like the puppet group.

spk_0 Oh, that's a whole other thing.

spk_0 I know all about the puppet group.

spk_0 I know.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 She has that minds too.

spk_0 We didn't have the minds.

spk_0 We had the minds.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I didn't have the minds.

spk_0 Wait, you,

spk_0 post-built?

spk_0 No, not me, but at my church.

spk_0 I think you did.

spk_0 You just, not, when I was in the church band.

spk_0 Can you explain the puppet group?

spk_0 So I was in it when I was so bad.

spk_0 So 13 to like 13, 14, 15 every summer,

spk_0 we would tour the country with this Christian puppet group

spk_0 called Kings Kids.

spk_0 Thank you.

spk_0 Right?

spk_0 And my sister and I, this is getting even better.

spk_0 So we were like Jim Henson school trained,

spk_0 like I'm still a professional puppeteer, by the way.

spk_0 I helped a Wyatt's and act perfect his puppeteering skills

spk_0 and don't let him tell you any different.

spk_0 So we, uh, so we went on the road for three summers

spk_0 and we got really good, but my sister and I were the only black people in the group

spk_0 and so we had to do all the voices and the use all the black puppets.

spk_0 Oh, no.

spk_0 What was your voice?

spk_0 Oh god, I don't remember.

spk_0 Please, I don't know you.

spk_0 I honestly don't remember.

spk_0 I did a bunch of them.

spk_0 You know, you just hear me slip into weird.

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 I'm saying, hey, Jesus, I don't know.

spk_0 But some of them were just like regular little girls

spk_0 and then some of them were like weird

spk_0 because they were like human looking puppets.

spk_0 They weren't all animals.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 What a hand puppet.

spk_0 Yeah, yeah, yeah, hand puppet.

spk_0 Well, I can't do it.

spk_0 There's got damn it.

spk_0 This podcast.

spk_0 I would show you.

spk_0 Which you have to imagine.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So here, wait, can I teach you guys a trick

spk_0 that won't help the home audience at all?

spk_0 Yeah, yeah.

spk_0 Everybody holds up your hand like this.

spk_0 You'll physically describe it.

spk_0 Okay, well physically describe it.

spk_0 Okay, so you'll hold up your hand like this.

spk_0 We're holding up our hands.

spk_0 So everybody's holding up their hand like so basically.

spk_0 I'm gonna take pictures.

spk_0 Okay, take pictures.

spk_0 Great.

spk_0 So basically everybody at home and within my,

spk_0 the distance of my voice.

spk_0 So think about when you hold up your hand

spk_0 to talk like a puppet, right?

spk_0 So your thumb is on the bottom.

spk_0 Your hand is flat on top.

spk_0 Now, just say, hi, how are you?

spk_0 Everybody at home do this too.

spk_0 Say hi, how are you?

spk_0 Move your hand like a puppet would.

spk_0 Hi, how are you?

spk_0 You all did it wrong.

spk_0 Okay, so.

spk_0 You all failed.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 So the professional trick is to only move your bottom,

spk_0 only move your thumb.

spk_0 So keep your hand flat and then say,

spk_0 hi, how are you?

spk_0 Oh, hi, how are you?

spk_0 But move it down.

spk_0 Don't move it up.

spk_0 Go.

spk_0 Hi.

spk_0 Hi, nope.

spk_0 Opposite.

spk_0 Move your thumb down.

spk_0 Hi, hi, hi.

spk_0

spk_0 Is that how that's how a mouth works?

spk_0 You're right.

spk_0 And if you want to sing, you can do that.

spk_0 Oh, yes.

spk_0 That's advantage.

spk_0 I'm going to go.

spk_0 But anyway, at home, try this.

spk_0 Keep your top of your hand flat.

spk_0 Even the engineers in the other room are

spk_0 trying to keep it right now.

spk_0 Keep this flat.

spk_0 Only move the thumb.

spk_0 Oh, you'll thumb it up.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And you're actually doing the best job.

spk_0 Anyway, yeah.

spk_0 Wait, can we just spend, I know about one minute doing this in silence

spk_0 and then press rating our audience right now.

spk_0 Yeah, that's.

spk_0 That's so hard.

spk_0 It's very hard.

spk_0 It took me years to master.

spk_0 So just move this and that looks real.

spk_0 Wow, that is awesome.

spk_0 Took off the QLS Instagram page for video.

spk_0 Yeah, it's cool, right?

spk_0 Is it an art to it?

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 It looks very easy.

spk_0 It's not.

spk_0 I can also use my other hand to make the hands and legs move.

spk_0 And so we taught you that.

spk_0 We went to we went through training.

spk_0 No, the Jim Hansen school teachers.

spk_0 We went through actual perfect.

spk_0 I am actually a professional like certified bubble tea.

spk_0 Yeah, you're not trying to make it to the children's

spk_0 television workshop.

spk_0 Did you not have those goals like,

spk_0 for I go rock.

spk_0 Wait, they certified puppeteers.

spk_0 Dude, it's a mafia.

spk_0 They certified.

spk_0 Even when Kevin first came to the tonight show,

spk_0 even when he came to the tonight show,

spk_0 he was saying that, you know, to get in Jim Henson's,

spk_0 it's the it's the Mary and that equivalent of going to George Lucas's

spk_0 school.

spk_0 It's like a mafia.

spk_0 It's 15 people.

spk_0 Congratulations, Sarah.

spk_0 Why?

spk_0 So I only have like a certification.

spk_0 I don't have like the whole degree.

spk_0 Is that expensive?

spk_0 I don't remember.

spk_0 You didn't get a master's in moving your phone.

spk_0 What is it?

spk_0 You're going to use that one day.

spk_0 You're going to thank me.

spk_0 What is it grant you like if you wanted to audition for Avenue Q or...

spk_0 I have no idea.

spk_0 I don't think anything.

spk_0 Besides like...

spk_0 Because I can't sing either.

spk_0 So they'd be like, oh, I could you leave?

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 Actually, Avenue Q would probably be helpful if I could actually sing.

spk_0 But I would think that they actually go through puppet training.

spk_0 I have to say that, oh, wait.

spk_0 This is weird on pay bill.

spk_0 I'm about to tell the story of your other job

spk_0 for getting that you actually work at Sesame Street.

spk_0 Go for it.

spk_0 I was like, wait, I got this ring.

spk_0 You do?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Am I not wrong?

spk_0 Am I correct?

spk_0 He is the Joe Raposo Sesame Street right now.

spk_0 Whenever I watched him, they...

spk_0

spk_0 It's a...

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 But you...

spk_0 They're not moving the same way.

spk_0 Because your mouth would clip open.

spk_0 Well, we're still talking with her.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I'm sorry, podcast listeners.

spk_0 Just fast forward this part.

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 Just see us in three minutes.

spk_0 We're talking to the boss.

spk_0 Step to the next tray.

spk_0 Yeah, you guys have chapters on these things.

spk_0 Just get this chair.

spk_0 Are you...

spk_0 Let's just move on.

spk_0 Are you...

spk_0 No, Sesame Street.

spk_0 You know, I'm gonna get lost in the least...

spk_0 I feel like there's a wormhole about to get this right now.

spk_0 That's him in a rabbit hole.

spk_0 So, on Sesame Street, are you...

spk_0 Puppeteers and...

spk_0 Well, just puppeteers.

spk_0 Muppeteers.

spk_0 Are they licensed or...

spk_0 No, but it's the same like 15 dudes that do like Sesame...

spk_0 dudes and ladies that do Sesame Street and the Muppets

spk_0 and mostly other things are the same 15 or 20 people.

spk_0 It is a mafia for sure.

spk_0 And they're like 80.

spk_0 Because once you're in, you're in.

spk_0 And you know, it's until I die.

spk_0 So like the guy who plays Grover also does Miss Piggy

spk_0 in Animal and then the guy who does the Swedish Chef's Hands

spk_0 is also the Cookie Monster.

spk_0 It's still stuff like that.

spk_0 Yeah, they're all kind of crossbreed.

spk_0 So what happens if all three of these characters

spk_0 are in the same sketch?

spk_0 They throw their voice around and they're pre-recorded.

spk_0 It's really cool to watch.

spk_0 They're fantastic.

spk_0 We got to...

spk_0 Are there any...

spk_0 Outtakes...

spk_0 Any outtake footage of them like just cursing and acting a fool?

spk_0 I've seen them do it.

spk_0 We had them on Queen of Teepa.

spk_0 Yeah, they definitely do it.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 Sorry.

spk_0 I just don't want to get him in trouble.

spk_0 Query.

spk_0 The Ori Devils.

spk_0 Listeners that at home we're also like silent talking

spk_0 to each other like...

spk_0 It's...

spk_0 They own the question.

spk_0 Oh really?

spk_0 Oh, okay.

spk_0 But I'm also like...

spk_0 You all want to see that footage?

spk_0 I know, right?

spk_0 They would just come do it for you.

spk_0 They've been on the show.

spk_0 She was come to this set.

spk_0 Whenever that happened.

spk_0 I will.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Well, okay.

spk_0 When I...

spk_0 When we do that thing,

spk_0 that we're going to do...

spk_0 We do that thing.

spk_0 That's the...

spk_0 I will come in the second.

spk_0 There you go.

spk_0 Uh, so you would travel...

spk_0 at what part like Bible belts or like...

spk_0 Yeah, yeah.

spk_0 A lot of Bible belt.

spk_0 We would take a van and we would all pile in it

spk_0 and it said King's Kids on the side.

spk_0 How many of you...

spk_0 Like 14 of us.

spk_0 It was a lot.

spk_0 Like 14, 10 or 14.

spk_0 And then the funny thing is,

spk_0 so one year, so like the first year was like,

spk_0 we drove out to California and did like West Coast,

spk_0 like, you know, but like normal places, right?

spk_0 And then the second year...

spk_0 No, first year we did the Midwest.

spk_0 So like St. Louis, Chicago, that kind of...

spk_0 Second year we drove out to California,

spk_0 did some stuff like in Orange County.

spk_0 It was fine.

spk_0 Third year, they're like,

spk_0 we're going to Appalachia.

spk_0 Appalachia, however you say.

spk_0 Yeah, just puppets don't play in Appalachia.

spk_0 No, they play, but Black people don't.

spk_0 Black girls.

spk_0

spk_0 And so we were like...

spk_0 And back then, I was wearing a big Afro.

spk_0 Like, my hair was, you know, big, you know.

spk_0 And we were like, oh, okay.

spk_0 My mom was like, how's this gonna work?

spk_0 And they were like, so what we'll do is,

spk_0 we'll just go into the church's first

spk_0 and make sure that they're cool.

spk_0 We're not doing that.

spk_0 And in hindsight, my sister and I were like,

spk_0 this is crazy.

spk_0 Like, there was a church where they had to pull up

spk_0 and go in and talk to them before we came in.

spk_0 And they were not okay with us performing.

spk_0 And we canceled the performance.

spk_0 And it was those...

spk_0 I don't know if you've ever been in like,

spk_0 Kentucky, coal country and all that, some Virginia.

spk_0 So you go on these switchback roads where there's only one lane.

spk_0 And so the coal trucks are coming down

spk_0 and you have to pull over when they come around.

spk_0 Like, it was some shit.

spk_0 I don't ever want to see you again in my life.

spk_0 And the whole time it just sounded like,

spk_0 then I'm like, then I'm down, down, down, down, down, down.

spk_0 The roots played a lot in Kentucky, right?

spk_0 Yeah, actually, I mean,

spk_0 we, I was part of a tour like that.

spk_0 Right?

spk_0 Where the day that we got our official offer for a record deal,

spk_0 a hub and I snuck out of the church tour that we were on.

spk_0 Very similar to this where we were,

spk_0 we were in Obleon, Kansas, like in the cornfield.

spk_0 Like when I go to sleep, I'd hear like,

spk_0 every night going to sleep.

spk_0 Like it was that sort of thing where you're just in the middle of America.

spk_0 And you don't know if you're going to be

spk_0 burning to across the next day.

spk_0 And so it was like, we got a record deal.

spk_0 And like he and I like snuck out of that.

spk_0 And went to the pay phone to the 7-11 call to cap.

spk_0 And you know, caught a plane at six in the morning.

spk_0 Like we went AWOL.

spk_0 They're probably still.

spk_0 Now they saw you on foul and they were like, God damn it.

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spk_0 I'm just curious about those

spk_0 church outings and whatnot.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Why?

spk_0 I mean, how?

spk_0 Oh, the words.

spk_0 Was it a repressive atmosphere or?

spk_0 It wasn't at the time.

spk_0 I think for me, it was all we knew.

spk_0 And the people were very kind and very, so still,

spk_0 really good family friends.

spk_0 You know, I mean, it was, we say something different.

spk_0 So there wasn't a heartbreak moment,

spk_0 whereas like, you're disillusioned and you were bailed.

spk_0 Oh, yeah, yeah, that happened in college.

spk_0 Oh, just about like Jesus.

spk_0 Sorry.

spk_0 Yeah, just with the church in there.

spk_0 Oh, you might have church.

spk_0 Yeah, yeah, yeah, with the church.

spk_0 For sure.

spk_0 I think at a certain point, I just saw, you know,

spk_0 you wake up to hip-hackersy.

spk_0 That happens in anything, right?

spk_0 But for church, you have to look at people.

spk_0 I'm like, okay.

spk_0 I woke up to hip-hop and I was like, get out the church.

spk_0 What?

spk_0 No, I, yeah, I think once I got older, I got to college.

spk_0 I was like, okay, I don't need to be in the church this much.

spk_0 I mean, even I think later in high school, but, you know,

spk_0 my mom grew up Catholic.

spk_0 My dad grew up Lutheran.

spk_0 Like, they just had a very strong religious background.

spk_0 And, but they also taught us that while we have this,

spk_0 once we became adults, they were like, now the choice is yours.

spk_0 We've taught you all the things that we know.

spk_0 But, you know, go forth and make your own decisions.

spk_0 So for me, I think I just don't like that.

spk_0 I feel like there's a lot of hypocrisy in the church.

spk_0 Like in religion.

spk_0 And I think that, you know, whatever.

spk_0 There's weird things in the Bible.

spk_0 You know what I mean?

spk_0 There's just weird shit.

spk_0 So I just feel like was guilt ever part of that.

spk_0 Like once they, once my church found out I was doing music.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 You know, sort of like so, mirror, you uplifting the Lord

spk_0 in your work or is it just like what I see on the devil?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And then I just stop coming to church.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 You know, no.

spk_0 I think once people heard me cursing in comedy,

spk_0 they were like, well, she's lost.

spk_0 And if she comes back then fine.

spk_0 We'll see you're on Easter.

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 And I said, I don't know.

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 I never had that guilt really.

spk_0 Also, I left home and went to Chicago.

spk_0 And then I went to Northwestern,

spk_0 and second city, like I was gone.

spk_0 You know, there was nobody to like follow me and be like, you know.

spk_0 And you didn't walk into college like that church girl.

spk_0 No.

spk_0 I'm holding onto this and doing it.

spk_0 No.

spk_0 No, no, no, no, no.

spk_0 That's good.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So we, you know, did you go to Northwestern?

spk_0 I will not tell you that.

spk_0 But it wasn't that long ago.

spk_0 You just had his conversation.

spk_0 Well, no, because I just generally wanted to know.

spk_0 Like if we ever played her college or that sort of thing,

spk_0 you're trying to find out if you're younger or blind.

spk_0 Wait, I've talked to you about this.

spk_0 Yeah, so it was in the video.

spk_0 It wasn't in my radio series.

spk_0 It was in the 2000s.

spk_0 Oh, sorry.

spk_0 I understand.

spk_0 I see what you're doing.

spk_0 I will tell this story.

spk_0 And I saw before I met you, I had seen y'all 14 times.

spk_0 14 times.

spk_0 Two of which I think were at Northwestern.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0

spk_0 I remember, do you remember this story?

spk_0 I don't, do you remember this night?

spk_0 Tell me how probably.

spk_0 Well, you were, y'all were playing, but,

spk_0 oh, God, why am I forgetting his name?

spk_0 Not Camron.

spk_0 I have to work.

spk_0 It's a rapper with a C name and he raps and he frees off

spk_0 for a long time.

spk_0

spk_0 Cannabis.

spk_0 Thank you, Jesus.

spk_0 I cannot buzz.

spk_0 There's a big difference between them.

spk_0 Cannabis.

spk_0 I knew I was, I knew I was about to say the wrong name.

spk_0 So cannabis was open for y'all.

spk_0 And this dude frees off for 45 minutes.

spk_0 Do you remember this?

spk_0 That is him.

spk_0 Was that what he would do?

spk_0 Because I never saw him before in concert.

spk_0 We've done, it was so long.

spk_0 And it was, yeah, we done, so obviously this was like 98 and 99 when his out came.

spk_0 I didn't see just tell you it was in 2000.

spk_0 No, it wasn't.

spk_0 It was later than, well, it was later than that I when I saw it.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Well, no, no, I'm in.

spk_0 Yeah, okay.

spk_0 He had other, okay.

spk_0 But I remember.

spk_0 I would have told you, I would like, actually, that's not right.

spk_0 We can edit also.

spk_0 It was like 1965.

spk_0 Go.

spk_0 It's fine.

spk_0 Now they know I'm 80.

spk_0 Thanks a lot.

spk_0 Sorry.

spk_0 Forgive me.

spk_0 Thanks, Amir.

spk_0 Wait, am I supposed to call you Quest?

spk_0 What am I supposed to call you on this?

spk_0 We know each other.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 We'll know as I'm here.

spk_0 Or a question.

spk_0 Can I tell you, it is so weird to talk about you.

spk_0 Because people are always like, because I'm always like,

spk_0 my friend Amir did something something and they're like,

spk_0 oh, is he in the business?

spk_0 And I was like, it's Quest Love.

spk_0 Like, I don't know how to like, do you know what I mean?

spk_0 Like, I try not to say your stage name because it's.

spk_0 It's your stage name.

spk_0 It's a very word stage name.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 And you can't just be like, so Quest Love and I were talking.

spk_0 It's like a name drop.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 It's such an annoying goddamn name drop.

spk_0 Who do you think is the same thing?

spk_0 I call Queen Le Jive Dana.

spk_0 And people are like, oh, you think you're cool.

spk_0 And I'm like, no, I just don't call her queen.

spk_0 But this is weird because whenever I talk about Marshall,

spk_0 then it's like, oh, you think you're so cool.

spk_0 You get the car more.

spk_0 No, I just can't call him Eminem.

spk_0 Well, I don't just say him though.

spk_0 That is a little extra.

spk_0 Why not just say him?

spk_0 Because he makes you, I hate when people call me Quest Love.

spk_0 Correct.

spk_0 Like even now, something makes things for them.

spk_0 It's like, yeah, but it sounds like, yeah, whenever I hear it.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 Thank you.

spk_0 Anyway, we were talking about something else before I got

spk_0 to fond of this camera.

spk_0 Go ahead.

spk_0 Just yelling when you first met.

spk_0 No, just fucking yell.

spk_0 Oh, yeah.

spk_0 Cannabis.

spk_0 So, yeah, thank you.

spk_0 Of course, Steve would remember that.

spk_0 So, I just asked you to something.

spk_0 So cannabis was rhyming.

spk_0 And for the first five minutes, we're like,

spk_0 yo, this dude's killing it.

spk_0 He's really free sound.

spk_0 He says she got a purple shirt on it.

spk_0 She got a purple shirt on.

spk_0 That's how it's crazy.

spk_0 And then 20 minutes later.

spk_0 Correct.

spk_0 20 minutes later, we're like, Jesus Christ.

spk_0 We get it.

spk_0 You get right.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 38 minutes in.

spk_0 We're like, this might be a world record.

spk_0 We might be in history right now.

spk_0 45 minutes in.

spk_0 The crowd was like, but, but, bring out the room.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And then y'all came out and ripped it.

spk_0 Thank you.

spk_0 Yeah, it was great.

spk_0 I appreciate that.

spk_0 I saw y'all everywhere, man.

spk_0 I saw you in Chicago a bunch.

spk_0 I think y'all, did y'all come to Iowa?

spk_0 You had to go back in those days.

spk_0 Came to Iowa.

spk_0 No, Iowa has probably the, maybe the fourth best record shopping

spk_0 experience I've ever had.

spk_0 Oh, is that right?

spk_0 Yeah, cause usually like those places that no one goes to,

spk_0 I could just, I clean up.

spk_0 It's mad stuff in there.

spk_0 Oh, yeah.

spk_0 I clean up instantly.

spk_0 Yeah, so.

spk_0 What else do you go to Iowa for?

spk_0 Corn.

spk_0 And porn.

spk_0 Oh, no, you don't have to go there for the porn.

spk_0 That's what you're not saying.

spk_0

spk_0 Have you ever been to the internet?

spk_0 It was rhyming with corn.

spk_0 Yeah, you don't really go to Iowa for money.

spk_0 Well, I mean, there's a lovely place to grow up, sheltered from reality, but, and it's

spk_0 very affordable.

spk_0 I will say that.

spk_0 Really?

spk_0 Well, it's like a three bedroom house.

spk_0 It's like a one, it's like going to an earthquake.

spk_0 Yeah, you can easily get a three bedroom house for like $180,000 easily.

spk_0 And like a nice, like a brand new, like, new shit.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Like truth be told, you know, the, the towns that you have least expectations for are probably

spk_0 just some of the best places to visit.

spk_0 The worst weather, because then you got hurricanes, you know, doorknames.

spk_0 In Iowa?

spk_0 No, that's not real.

spk_0 Tornados.

spk_0 Tornados, sorry.

spk_0 Yes, that is true.

spk_0 Tornados and cold.

spk_0 That's okay.

spk_0 I knew what you meant, Gorak, I got you.

spk_0 Thank you.

spk_0 In my head, I was sitting in the same bed.

spk_0 Well, listen, climate change is real.

spk_0 It might be some goddamn hurricane.

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 I just sit down.

spk_0 So second, what drove you to Chicago, the fact that you got accepted to, you know, my

spk_0 Chevy Lomona literally drove me to Chicago.

spk_0 I want to show up comedian, but I mean like, no, that's just the truth.

spk_0 I wanted to go to, I wanted to go straight to LA out of high school.

spk_0 And my parents were like, please don't.

spk_0 You will do porn, which now is why I see why you had that connection to Iowa.

spk_0 They were scared.

spk_0 Do you think they knew about Iowa?

spk_0 They may have.

spk_0 They were supplied smart, black women in porn.

spk_0 Yes, they may have.

spk_0 So, you know, every summer I went to Chicago because that's where my family, what's

spk_0 where my mom's whole side lived.

spk_0 So I was familiar with the city.

spk_0 And I was like, they were like, don't, they said, they just asked me two things.

spk_0 Don't go straight to LA because they knew I wanted to be comedian actress, writer, whatever.

spk_0 But they said, don't go straight to LA, get a college education.

spk_0 And also, don't ask us for any money.

spk_0 So, I got into Northwestern and I said, and they were like, please don't get a degree

spk_0 in theater.

spk_0 You are, you're already funny.

spk_0 Get a real degree, which is rude, right?

spk_0 But so I got a degree in journalism.

spk_0 I went to like, oh, Northwestern has the best journalism school.

spk_0 They only let in like 180 people a year.

spk_0 I got in.

spk_0 And then I got my degree and then I got scouted by Second City because I was running

spk_0 an improv and sketch group there for years.

spk_0 And they saw it.

spk_0 They heard about it.

spk_0 What was the name of the sketch group?

spk_0 Out the box.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 And still going on to this day, 75 years later.

spk_0 And so I went to Second City.

spk_0 They gave me a full scholarship to go to Second City, graduated the conservatory, went straight

spk_0 to LA.

spk_0 And you know, did you have dreams of seeing Steve Higgins or Warren coming through the

spk_0 door?

spk_0

spk_0 Yeah, of course.

spk_0 For our listeners, a lot of people that you see on SNL, Saturday Night Live, they'll

spk_0 either be poached from one of three places, either the groundlings in LA.

spk_0 Is there groundlings in New York?

spk_0 Groundlings.

spk_0 The home of groundlings is New York.

spk_0 Groundlings.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 No, I'm sorry.

spk_0 I was thinking UCB.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 There is no groundlings in New York.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 So yeah, the groundlings in New York.

spk_0 It's UCB here, groundlings in LA, Second City.

spk_0 I believe my was a groundlings.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 My I'm Melissa McCarthy, a bunch of them, yeah, groundlings.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 And then New York is UCB established by Amy Poler.

spk_0 Amy Poler and Dittina.

spk_0 No, Tina Second City, Chicago.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 And then last second city.

spk_0 So those three, those are the three comedy universities that will guarantee you maybe

spk_0 half an audition at Saturday Night Live.

spk_0 So did you ever go there hoping one day that like, yes, that was the goal.

spk_0 It will happen.

spk_0 Absolutely.

spk_0 That was the goal for sure.

spk_0 And I was there with a bunch of people who are now famous and they were my mentors.

spk_0 So Kagan Michael Key was leaving Second City to go do mad TV.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 And now I fucking dated myself.

spk_0 God damn it.

spk_0 But I was also 12.

spk_0 I never heard that show for a few years.

spk_0 Anyway, in a bunch of great folks.

spk_0 So so when I came up, there was kind of a new crop coming through and everybody was like,

spk_0 Oh, this is going to be the next class that goes to SNL.

spk_0 Like your class is going to be the next class.

spk_0 That did not happen.

spk_0 And I didn't even get close to an audition.

spk_0 I just wasn't in the right cycle or whatever.

spk_0 Or back then Saturday Night Live wasn't looking for black ladies.

spk_0 I was about to say who the black lady is.

spk_0 Because there wasn't.

spk_0 It was Ellen Claygorn and then it was Leslie Jones.

spk_0 Like there was a with my in the middle.

spk_0 That's literally it.

spk_0 But there was one more.

spk_0 What's her face who passed away, sadly.

spk_0 But years ago, what was her name?

spk_0 It's Neatron Ants.

spk_0 Yes, thank you.

spk_0 Oh, she was pretty.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I remember Joke on the Apollo, like get your baby some cool lights or she did a joke about

spk_0 cool cigarettes.

spk_0 Oh, did she?

spk_0 A baby smoking.

spk_0 Yeah, she wasn't on very long, but she was funny as shit.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 But anyway, so so yeah, so never happened.

spk_0 I went to LA.

spk_0 It took many, many years.

spk_0 I didn't audition for Lauren until 2013.

spk_0 Whoa, that long time.

spk_0 Damn.

spk_0 But I was on other sketch shows.

spk_0 I was on, you know, Jamie Foxx, Avion, Crockett, I'm special on Fox.

spk_0 I was a bunch of stuff that never saw the light of day.

spk_0 I did a sketch show with Mike Ebs for Comedy Central that never saw the world.

spk_0 You know, I did a lot of sketch stuff.

spk_0 I wrote for a lot of sandups.

spk_0 I toured the country with them.

spk_0 I wrote for sitcoms.

spk_0 But did you?

spk_0 Wait, you just reminded me that I too was on a failed pilot that almost didn't make

spk_0 it.

spk_0 There was going to be a black Saturday.

spk_0 I only remember because this is how we wrote Break You Off for Fonology.

spk_0 Who is the black comedy promoter?

spk_0 He did the Kings of Comedy.

spk_0 Walter Latham?

spk_0 No.

spk_0 Yes, Walter.

spk_0 Walter?

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 Not.

spk_0 But it's not with him.

spk_0 No, it's not him though.

spk_0 It's not him.

spk_0 I know exactly who it is.

spk_0 And I am blanking.

spk_0 Now we, somebody Google it.

spk_0 Got to look it up.

spk_0 No, I know who it is.

spk_0 And that's not everybody.

spk_0 That's not a child's king or not.

spk_0 No, no, no.

spk_0 No, no.

spk_0 No, don't care.

spk_0 Hold on.

spk_0 Walter Latham did a Kings of Comedy.

spk_0 Yeah, he did.

spk_0 Oh, I said it.

spk_0 Wait, is he connected to Stan?

spk_0 No, it's M.

spk_0 It's M.

spk_0 With the M.

spk_0 Latham.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Oh, I was right for the first time.

spk_0 That's my good.

spk_0 I guess the word comedy.

spk_0 But once the King of Comedy, once the King of Comedy kind of blew up, then Walter decided

spk_0 to do a shoot a pilot.

spk_0 He wanted to do a black S&L.

spk_0 And it was like earthquake and other seven or eight other heavyweights that I'm forgetting

spk_0 for getting right now.

spk_0 No, the earthquake was the first one.

spk_0 Oh, no, don't sleep, earthquake.

spk_0 Don't sleep, earthquake.

spk_0 Man, that means funny.

spk_0 That's funny and shit, yo.

spk_0 Yeah, it's funny.

spk_0 But first to get by.

spk_0 And his goal is a hell of a reality show actress.

spk_0 But back when we were again thirsting for maybe a gig that could keep us in one place

spk_0 at the same time, we were the house band.

spk_0 You know, we were the S&L band for that show.

spk_0 That is so funny.

spk_0 But it just never got picked up.

spk_0 And-

spk_0 The Bar-

spk_0 The nurses lounge.

spk_0 People always forget about that.

spk_0 Yo, that was the best.

spk_0 Yeah, Tracy Kiltpetch.

spk_0 That was the best.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Anyway, so you remind me that-

spk_0 The nurses lounge.

spk_0 I forgot about it.

spk_0 And then that kind of came true, right?

spk_0 In a way.

spk_0 Uh, yeah, eventually.

spk_0 I saw my future.

spk_0 Are you psychic?

spk_0 No, I'm not.

spk_0 I'm also-

spk_0 I'm also thinking.

spk_0 You got it.

spk_0 I'm also remembering.

spk_0 Uh, is this the question?

spk_0 Why try to kill this also?

spk_0 She don't.

spk_0 In real life-

spk_0 She pulled out of my-

spk_0 In real life?

spk_0 That's not funny.

spk_0 Because she-

spk_0 Yeah, she really did that.

spk_0 She does that.

spk_0 Her husband, her-

spk_0 Yes, do.

spk_0 Like we-

spk_0 Damn.

spk_0 I mean, you know us.

spk_0 Did she get these knives?

spk_0 You know, just say what a knife.

spk_0 She-

spk_0 She's-

spk_0 She's Indiana girl, I understand it.

spk_0 Where are you from?

spk_0 I'm from Indiana.

spk_0 Oh, okay.

spk_0 Yeah, Rick said something smart or-

spk_0 Or unsavory.

spk_0 And then she took her earrings off.

spk_0 And then she grabbed a weapon.

spk_0 Her husband had to hold her back.

spk_0 Oh, gee.

spk_0 The only good thing that-

spk_0 From that moment was like-

spk_0 Because music and she sat in with us.

spk_0 Like that was the thing.

spk_0 Like when you go to the restaurant-

spk_0

spk_0 Yeah, how did you prevent a murder?

spk_0 Her husband-

spk_0

spk_0 Her husband-

spk_0

spk_0 Her husband-

spk_0

spk_0 Her husband-

spk_0 Wait, did he die?

spk_0 No.

spk_0 Oh, that's good.

spk_0 He protected her.

spk_0 Why she was gone for a while, having a whole abot, do it?

spk_0 I know you don't remember because you were a child.

spk_0 I was only born yesterday.

spk_0

spk_0 So I just get to get a younger every time.

spk_0

spk_0 I'm not going to be born until this podcast is over.

spk_0 Anyway.

spk_0 So you went to LA.

spk_0 I did.

spk_0 What is it-

spk_0 What is-

spk_0 What was the process of pounding the pavement?

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 So the nice thing was I went out there with a one woman show

spk_0 About, you know, just like playing different characters

spk_0 And autobiographical.

spk_0 But what did I know at 22?

spk_0 Well, wait.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 If you didn't see that, what would be one woman show-

spk_0 No, that's not as a kid.

spk_0 So I don't pee.

spk_0 Oh, yeah.

spk_0 No, that's not as a kid.

spk_0 I'm like, who's your inspiration?

spk_0 Her all day.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 So I put a towel on my head and then I just, I literally pulled a

spk_0 Melania Trump and just did her show.

spk_0 No.

spk_0 I'm a delicious soulmate show.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 How do we let her get away with that, by the way?

spk_0 But anyway.

spk_0 So yeah, I went out and did this one woman show.

spk_0 And then I got seen by Mike Epses manager.

spk_0 Like I literally only did the show like three times.

spk_0 And then I got seen by Mike Epses manager and he was like,

spk_0 Yo, you are so funny.

spk_0 You should come right from Mike.

spk_0 And so I started right in from Mike.

spk_0 We wrote up the sketch show.

spk_0 It didn't go.

spk_0 And then, and I was acting on it too.

spk_0 And then I went on the road with him a little bit.

spk_0 Started working.

spk_0 And then I met Jesse Collins, who was, you know,

spk_0 produces BET words and a bunch of other stuff.

spk_0 And I met him, started writing for award shows.

spk_0 And then I just got connected with all these different comedians.

spk_0 And so I wrote for all these different hosts,

spk_0 Jamie Foxx, Anthony Anderson, Chris Rock,

spk_0 Monique, Wayne Brady, Sam Jack, like literally everybody.

spk_0 I've written for every male stand up black comedian

spk_0 who is like at the top of their game for sure.

spk_0 How did you avoid the Hollywood shuffle?

spk_0 Or how did you avoid the Chitolene circuit landmines

spk_0 that are usually there for comedians, especially for black comedians?

spk_0 Like how did you avoid the Sam War route?

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 Well, I played the CD bars and over, like, did you start off

spk_0 in the comedy store in LA?

spk_0 No, so that's the thing.

spk_0 This is how I avoided it because I was a sketch

spk_0 and improv comedian.

spk_0 Even though I wrote for stand-ups, I never did stand-up.

spk_0 I've never done a minute of stand-up in my whole career.

spk_0 Never.

spk_0 Really?

spk_0 Never not once.

spk_0 That's weird.

spk_0 And I know, and I'm always in the comedy clips.

spk_0 Always.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I've never done a minute of stand-up.

spk_0 What did the comedians that you write for when you tell them

spk_0 that, or did you ever had that in that conversation,

spk_0 do they ever, what did they say about that?

spk_0 Or do they care?

spk_0 I've never had that conversation.

spk_0 I've always been funny.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 And I always do that.

spk_0 Like, to comedians, it doesn't matter.

spk_0 Like, there's not a hierarchy.

spk_0 Um, it's like, well, is she funny?

spk_0 Can she write great jokes?

spk_0 The other thing about me is I have a, because I would sit

spk_0 and mimic those people on television as a kid,

spk_0 I can mimic anyone's comedic style.

spk_0 So I know how to write for somebody.

spk_0 If I've heard five minutes of their stand-up,

spk_0 I know how to write jokes for them.

spk_0 You're trying to tell me.

spk_0 That the rundown is the first time that you've consistently,

spk_0 concurrently in a half hour or a hour,

spk_0 you take your show in an hour,

spk_0 that you've stood in front of the audience

spk_0 and the material on the told jokes in a non-sketch acting way.

spk_0 For that amount of time, yeah?

spk_0 Wow.

spk_0 That's dope.

spk_0 Wow. That's rare.

spk_0 But you got to think about it this way.

spk_0 I'm an expert at stand-up comedy,

spk_0 because I've been doing it for a long, like, two decades.

spk_0 I know.

spk_0 I've been writing it for years.

spk_0 But I'm a performer.

spk_0 Like, even on the nightly show,

spk_0 I was doing the same thing.

spk_0 It was just like more sketches and like,

spk_0 kind of panel stuff.

spk_0 And like, my whole career has led to this.

spk_0 If you look at the breadth of it, like,

spk_0 but no, it is true.

spk_0 I guess if you think about it that way, yeah,

spk_0 it was the first time I actually did stand-up.

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 That's what it is.

spk_0 That's true.

spk_0 But it's like trusting a food expert that's never cooked.

spk_0 That's never cooked.

spk_0 Oh my god.

spk_0 Wait.

spk_0 I'm just talking about myself.

spk_0 You sure did.

spk_0 Wait a minute.

spk_0 What?

spk_0 Wait a minute.

spk_0 You got food books and everything, motherfucker.

spk_0 I'm probably the only James Beard nominated.

spk_0

spk_0 Author that's never cooked a dish.

spk_0

spk_0 Ooh.

spk_0 That's weird.

spk_0 No, I'm an actor.

spk_0 But you get it, though.

spk_0 Like, so for me, it was like, I, it's kind of better

spk_0 because I was on the road being a student of every,

spk_0 like, literally, I can tell you if you give me a topic, right?

spk_0 Like, I'm not going to do it.

spk_0 This isn't like, you know, who's on it?

spk_0 That's the reason.

spk_0 But like, if you, if I'm, okay, so if it,

spk_0 if Trump does something crazy, right?

spk_0 So Trump goes after somebody in the media, right?

spk_0 He goes after Jamel Hill, whatever.

spk_0 So she should be fired.

spk_0 I can tell you how every host in late night

spk_0 is going to make a joke on it.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 So, what was Stephen Colbert say?

spk_0 So, so Stephen Colbert is going to make like,

spk_0 like, okay, so if you go for the game, right?

spk_0 So Kimmel is going to make a joke.

spk_0 That's probably, um, okay, it's the Jamel host.

spk_0 Well, he's not going to do it.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 Because this Jamel host.

spk_0 Right. I picked, I picked a black person.

spk_0 A lot of them wouldn't touch that.

spk_0 He's like, Trevor does these funny, like, impressions.

spk_0 He does, he does all these amazing voices.

spk_0 So he'll slip into doing impression.

spk_0 Colbert is going to make an astute upside down observation

spk_0 that's still silly.

spk_0 Kimmel's going to make something that's a little bit more

spk_0 of a frat humor joke.

spk_0 And, it's definitely going to take him down from A to B.

spk_0 You know what I'm saying?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 What'd he say?

spk_0 Jimmy.

spk_0 He probably won't mention it if Trump did it.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And it's a black woman.

spk_0

spk_0 But, yeah, but I mean, but you know, it's like,

spk_0 but you have to be a student of the crap.

spk_0 So it was like, by the time I came in,

spk_0 I knew how to write for Larry.

spk_0 I knew how to write, like, John, you know,

spk_0 I'm a product of the John Stewart family.

spk_0 He was our executive producer at the nightly show.

spk_0 He was with us all the time.

spk_0 And he taught me a lot.

spk_0 And then Chris Rock, who's our executive producer,

spk_0 like I wrote for him when he hosted the BET awards.

spk_0 And he's been a really good mentor of mine since then.

spk_0 And like, the common theme is like, once you know your comedy,

spk_0 especially in comparison to what else is out there,

spk_0 then you can sell your product.

spk_0 And I knew I had something different.

spk_0 How do you feel about, at least the different classes of comedy?

spk_0 I'm curious about like in New York, I know that the Brooklyn comics

spk_0 are seen as the, you know, alternative comics.

spk_0 And kind of all do the same three jokes.

spk_0 It's really true.

spk_0 I thought you were going to be over-minded.

spk_0 I am over-minded.

spk_0 I love them.

spk_0 And I think some of them are pushing the boundaries.

spk_0 But like if you take a Brooklyn comic, like, I'm talking like straight up,

spk_0 like, textbook Brooklyn, like, artisanal cheese joke Brooklyn.

spk_0 And you take it anywhere else in the country.

spk_0 And it doesn't work.

spk_0 Yeah, you're bomb.

spk_0 You can't take that to uptown.

spk_0 You can't go to Atlanta with those jokes.

spk_0 What are you doing?

spk_0 Especially for black comedians.

spk_0 Like, what are you doing?

spk_0 But at the same time, I also can't take some of my truck jokes.

spk_0 And that's why I'm not a stand-up.

spk_0 That's why I created a safe space.

spk_0 Where I can push my point of view in my comedy.

spk_0 But like, I'm not one of those people who can go to any comedy club in the country

spk_0 and do stand.

spk_0 Like, I just never had a passion for that.

spk_0 So do you agree, now, Chris Rock thinks that any joke should be able to work

spk_0 in all three mediums?

spk_0 Like, he says it because he's a genius.

spk_0 It's not fair.

spk_0 His opinion is not fair.

spk_0 But I'm asking you to subscribe to that theory because Brooklyn is the alternative world.

spk_0 And then sort of north of 40 Second Street is kind of, I mean, I want to beat this

spk_0 miss him, say, hacky.

spk_0 But I mean, that's where like, Caroline's is and whatever.

spk_0 Like, you'll see like, what do you talk about?

spk_0 Well, I mean, I don't know.

spk_0 It's just that they're so at the seller in the village.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 They're such snobs.

spk_0 Yeah, they are.

spk_0 That's like Chappelle and Brennan.

spk_0 You know, those guys just like, they know every, they're like old real hip hoppers from

spk_0 like 1992.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So I consider them the highest love.

spk_0 High quest love.

spk_0 The higher the hardest to freeze, the hardest to please, insatiable level of Ivy League

spk_0 comic.

spk_0 And they look down on the Brooklyn cats and they look, they kind of, they're glad that they

spk_0 didn't go that, you know, I mean, even though they respect those guys like the Vegas, whoever

spk_0 the David Brenners are of this generation, like that work way uptown and uptown.

spk_0 Now there's a lot of class classes and classism in comedy.

spk_0 Exactly.

spk_0 And then the Chitlin's Arca, you got all that.

spk_0 Yeah, it's a lot.

spk_0 But Chris believes that, you know, Chris will go to outpost and try his stuff in that place

spk_0 and then he'll go to the blackest club uptown.

spk_0

spk_0 Do you think that every comic should adapt to that situation?

spk_0 I don't think it's necessary.

spk_0 I think that it depends on what you're trying to do.

spk_0 I think if you're trying to be a legend, you're trying to be great.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 And that's Chris is great.

spk_0 He is a legend.

spk_0 Like he's so smart and he will, he never gets comfortable.

spk_0 He's always challenging himself.

spk_0 So I think for him that works, but I think there are other comedians whose thing is so specific

spk_0 that they're just using stand-up to get in front of a larger audience anyway.

spk_0 And it just depends on your goals.

spk_0 And I don't judge anybody.

spk_0 Even the Brooklyn comics, I don't judge them.

spk_0 Like they're going to be great.

spk_0 They're going to be the lead in a second party soon or they're going to, you know, have a weird like, you know, single camera.

spk_0 Artisanal Chisha.

spk_0 But yeah, I think there's a place for everything.

spk_0 That's what's so great about comedy is it's so subjective.

spk_0 Like one person can be like, yo, like, do you know who he's not funny?

spk_0 And then somebody else is like, what are you talking about?

spk_0 He's the second coming.

spk_0 That's the great thing about comedy.

spk_0 Like people can watch my show and be like, oh, she's wet.

spk_0 But obviously they're blind.

spk_0 And they're, and they're, but yeah, I mean, I think there's something for everybody.

spk_0 I don't really judge it.

spk_0 I think as long as you have a good work ethic, whatever you're doing is fine.

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spk_0 Okay, well, this leads to Laia who is currently pounding the pavement to when I'm not doing this.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 To be more the copy.

spk_0 I was the girl that you know.

spk_0 And it was to get to know you better.

spk_0 As if we never heard that reference on this show.

spk_0 So what are you?

spk_0 Can I have joy in my life?

spk_0 You know, if I can get too black, wear my share of my moral every day.

spk_0 I mean, so.

spk_0 So what would you recommend the interviews over?

spk_0 I just had to go to the table turn.

spk_0 So what would you recommend to a young upstart?

spk_0 First of all, with the whole myth of.

spk_0 I'm not.

spk_0 Damn, I'm trying to set you up.

spk_0 I'm going to shut up there.

spk_0 Okay, born in 1994.

spk_0 Thank you.

spk_0 Anyway, what would you recommend, especially with the advantages?

spk_0 Is it advantage having, you know, do you respect YouTube comedians?

spk_0 And at the time, Vine, oh, God, the eye roll.

spk_0 Damn.

spk_0 No, no, no.

spk_0 No, it was at the question not at YouTubers.

spk_0 Oh, wait a minute.

spk_0 See, in my mind, I thought that you were cool by to the comic world.

spk_0 Look, I think it's good.

spk_0 But I think what happens is here's what happens to people who have been in the game a long time.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 You go out for something, you're up for something, and then they're like,

spk_0 we're going to get this YouTube person.

spk_0 They're hot.

spk_0 And you're like, but I've done all the professional things.

spk_0 Like, I've gotten a degree or I've been in the streets.

spk_0 Like, I've been in the clubs.

spk_0 Like, I've been doing all this.

spk_0 Like, I've been doing, you know, like, I was in nine sketch groups at any given time.

spk_0 Like, like, for me, sketch groups and in Proph Olympic in Second City were my comedy clubs

spk_0 when I was performing and writing.

spk_0 So it's like, I felt like I put in the work.

spk_0 I didn't just turn on a camera in my bedroom, but that being said, there are people who work

spk_0 hell hard on YouTube and who make millions of dollars.

spk_0 So you can't knock the hustle.

spk_0 Yeah, there are people making millions of dollars on YouTube.

spk_0 So I don't knock the hustle, but I will say that I don't find like that a lot of them have longevity.

spk_0 There are some that do.

spk_0 So is this sort of like how someone my age was seeing new hip hop and see like, okay, you're here to do.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 The muffle or it's something like somebody like me who's been doing radio our life looks at someone like you.

spk_0 With a pocket.

spk_0 Oh, she's fired.

spk_0 But I brought you with me.

spk_0 Right, but I don't have the deal.

spk_0 So it's just.

spk_0 Oh, it got repersonated.

spk_0 No, we can also cut her mic off engineer.

spk_0 So, okay, well, now this is going to be since you're wise with your words.

spk_0 Looking at Laia, she's been trying to.

spk_0 She's been pounding the pavement.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 What do you recommend?

spk_0 Are you doing stand up?

spk_0 I've.

spk_0 I've been writing a lot.

spk_0 I've done some stand up.

spk_0 I've been writing more and I've been standing.

spk_0 So how do you help someone find your lane?

spk_0 So is.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And again, okay, I know someone that is a very talented person in the arts.

spk_0 I think.

spk_0 I think he's better off.

spk_0 Why are you choosing your words carefully?

spk_0 You said we were being candid because.

spk_0 I'm saying that I don't think he's marketable as an artist, but I think there's a future for him as a songwriter.

spk_0 And I'm trying to encourage them.

spk_0 Yeah, but no one wants Brandon to Jackson to write songs.

spk_0 I'm not going to name the person.

spk_0 But I was just trying to pull a name out.

spk_0 I was so random.

spk_0 I really know.

spk_0 I started Brandon to.

spk_0 Listen, but what I'm saying is that.

spk_0 You can.

spk_0 You can open any door that you want once you get in.

spk_0 Like you're not going to go to the front door.

spk_0 You might have to come through the kitchen or whatever.

spk_0 So I'm saying that, okay, if you ramp up your songwriting skills, which are brilliant and you get a publishing deal, then.

spk_0 Yeah, you can write your own ticket.

spk_0 You could be like, I want to fly to the moon next to get in.

spk_0 What I'm saying is.

spk_0 How do you help a person?

spk_0 What do you recommend to someone trying to find their lane?

spk_0 Like maybe they're better at writing.

spk_0 Or maybe they're better at directing.

spk_0 Or maybe they're better at being in front of the camera.

spk_0 Being a stand.

spk_0 How do you help them find?

spk_0 Yeah, good question.

spk_0 I think you just have to try everything.

spk_0 You know, I think if you think you want to be a stand up, you got to go be a stand up.

spk_0 Like I was denying myself the fact that I was a writer for many years.

spk_0 I was just like, nope, I'm a comedian.

spk_0 I'm a performer.

spk_0 I'm just trying to be on SNL.

spk_0 This is what I'm doing.

spk_0 But I was writing for money on these TV shows and stuff.

spk_0 And I was like, yeah, yeah, but I'm not a writer.

spk_0 I don't know why.

spk_0 For years, I denied that.

spk_0 And then I looked up and was like, yo, I've been writing a lot.

spk_0 And I always perform on the things I write on.

spk_0 So I never had to shut that part of me off.

spk_0 But I don't know for some reason I had this weird shame about being behind the scenes, which was odd.

spk_0 Because once I embraced that, my whole career opened up in front of the camera and behind it.

spk_0 Is it shame or is also like, can I do this?

spk_0 Because that's like also a level of being.

spk_0 Yeah, well, I always knew I was a good writer.

spk_0 I just didn't think of it as a job, which was disrespectful to writers.

spk_0 But I just didn't have that knowledge.

spk_0 I went to public school.

spk_0 I didn't have a lot of knowledge about this.

spk_0 About the industry.

spk_0 I went to public school in the Midwest.

spk_0 TV was like, what?

spk_0 That was just like a weird dream.

spk_0 So, yeah, I mean, I've always had this kind of, I talked about this the other day.

spk_0 I've always had this kind of reckless confidence.

spk_0 Like, I've always been like, if I want to do it, I can do it.

spk_0 But then I would convince myself, oh, but I don't want to do that.

spk_0 But then I think that was just the fear talking, right?

spk_0 So I think if you have a passion for it, you've got to do it.

spk_0 You've got to just do it.

spk_0 I think the problem with stand-up is you've got to do it all the time.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 Because it's like golf.

spk_0 If you play for 10 years and you don't play for a week, you're terrible again.

spk_0 Yes, I'm very scared.

spk_0 And you get more scared the more time that you spend not doing it.

spk_0 Correct.

spk_0 Oh, correct.

spk_0 See Eddie Murphy.

spk_0 How do you want?

spk_0 That's why he won't come back on stage.

spk_0 I mean, he says it.

spk_0 I'm not.

spk_0 That's just what he says.

spk_0 I can't be out here working out material as Eddie Murphy.

spk_0 I can't do bad jokes.

spk_0 But the only way you do a special is to go out and work out the material.

spk_0 And they'll be bad.

spk_0 Chris is not afraid to do that.

spk_0

spk_0 Rock goes into club with a notebook and a pen.

spk_0 I'll be like, I'm just going to read some shit.

spk_0 You know, when he's working things out and it's genius to watch.

spk_0 But, you know, if you're Eddie Murphy, how do you do that?

spk_0 How do you go as the living legend top of the game and go into the seller

spk_0 or stand up New York or wherever and tell some terrible ass jokes?

spk_0 So do you think we'll never see Eddie Murphy saying that?

spk_0 I'm just waiting to see if he's actually going to do coming to America too.

spk_0 I don't even believe it.

spk_0 I don't either.

spk_0 When he was going to host the Oscars, I was like, I believe when I see it.

spk_0 And then he didn't.

spk_0 He, he, it's hard.

spk_0 And I root for him.

spk_0 Like I'm like, he's the greatest living comedian, period.

spk_0 And I don't think that there's any way to live up to that title.

spk_0 And so I have, you know, I have sympathy for him.

spk_0 I know other people feel they're.

spk_0 Even the, the, the timidity did at Kennedy Center.

spk_0 At the Kennedy Center.

spk_0 So dope.

spk_0 It made me so hungry.

spk_0 Oh, when he just got on stage, I talked.

spk_0 I would pay all my money.

spk_0 You could have all my money.

spk_0 But that's what he doesn't understand.

spk_0 The love for him is so great.

spk_0 But anyway, back to you.

spk_0 Just be Eddie Murphy.

spk_0 That's all I'm saying.

spk_0 That's what you've got to do.

spk_0 Or just don't be Eddie Murphy.

spk_0 Don't be Eddie Murphy.

spk_0 No, I'm, look, I think you just got to do it.

spk_0 And you'll find out it'll take you where you're supposed to go.

spk_0 But don't close the doors on yourself.

spk_0 And if you're already writing, what are you waiting for?

spk_0 You got three minutes on the, in the book right now.

spk_0 Five minutes, whatever you got.

spk_0 That's all you have to do.

spk_0 People think you have to go out and do a hour long special.

spk_0 No, you work your way up.

spk_0 You do five minutes, then you do eight.

spk_0 And then you go back to five.

spk_0 Because those other three you find out didn't work.

spk_0 What do you, not did you do this?

spk_0 But do you have some favorite clubs in New York and?

spk_0 Yeah, look, I think stand up and wise.

spk_0 Really good.

spk_0 Stand up New York is great because they have a really good amateur night.

spk_0 Well, anybody can get up.

spk_0 Where is that?

spk_0 Go to stand up new.

spk_0 It's uptown.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 And then how like, no, not far.

spk_0 I think it's in the 60s.

spk_0 No, like Upper Westside.

spk_0 Cameron.

spk_0 I think that's where am I getting a confused?

spk_0 No, no, no, no, no.

spk_0 Some 78s.

spk_0 What's the, yeah, there you go.

spk_0 Media, sweetie, sweetie, sweetie.

spk_0 No, no, no.

spk_0 So stand up New York is a good one.

spk_0 Don't try to go to the seller.

spk_0 No, like, you know, that's crazy.

spk_0 Not me.

spk_0 But there's also like NYU has like random comedy nights and stuff.

spk_0 We're like literally anybody can go up and students are kind of a great crowd because

spk_0 they don't give a shit.

spk_0 And so they'll either laugh or they'll just won't even look at you.

spk_0 But either way, you can hear what you're, you know what the thing is, you need to hear what your jokes sound like on a microphone.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 It's not about what they sound like in front of a crowd as much as you need to get used to hearing them amplified.

spk_0 And you'll start writing them differently.

spk_0 Because no matter how much you write them at home, that shit, once it has an echo on it, you'll be like, oh, that doesn't work.

spk_0 But honestly, like it doesn't, yeah, yeah, that's why they do that.

spk_0

spk_0 Because you need to be able to hear the joke in the mic.

spk_0 It's not about the crowd's reaction.

spk_0 People always think that's a joke about the crowd, not hearing.

spk_0 But it really is like, oh, my joke is not working through this mechanism.

spk_0 It's interesting.

spk_0 There's a whole, there's a whole thing.

spk_0 I'll tell you my two secret Smurf Spot.

spk_0 Why are you?

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 He said it on the record.

spk_0 Yeah, because that's from small little places that any bar in Brooklyn has an amateur night by the way.

spk_0 I work out at two spots.

spk_0 I say what now?

spk_0 Yeah, do.

spk_0 Which one you work out at two spots?

spk_0 Oh, you tell me this.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Well, back when I was actively teaching.

spk_0 Well, you're not in like a, yeah, go ahead.

spk_0 Because you're not in a comedy club comedy club.

spk_0 Are you?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Where are you from?

spk_0 I mean, but I don't do it as much.

spk_0 Now that I'm not teaching the semester, but I.

spk_0 But as you hear three seconds ago, I mean, the reason why I write more and Instagram more because it's easy for me to communicate when I can control my words with my 10 fingers, but I hate public speaking.

spk_0 Also, you go and you try.

spk_0 Even the show I lose sleep the night before whenever we do it.

spk_0 And they could be like even the Jimmy J.

spk_0 And I'm like, I'm in the mirror like practicing like like is a real jury.

spk_0 Yeah, but yeah, our are our warm up guy.

spk_0 Seth told me that the way to give over your public speaking fear is to just tell a five minute story.

spk_0 So yeah, so you're doing like story slams and shit.

spk_0 That's the.

spk_0 It's going to be, you know, I'm where it's to reek is also on the low.

spk_0 When you're working out before we get to drink, where do you go?

spk_0 Where do you go?

spk_0 He said, I don't want to reveal that because I don't want people judging me.

spk_0 Come on now.

spk_0 You would have revealed stuff on this show all the time.

spk_0 You just said, I'm going to tell you the pieces.

spk_0 I go, you just said that.

spk_0 Well, that's a running theme with this show.

spk_0 Just a lie.

spk_0 Just a pie.

spk_0 I know what they are.

spk_0 He told me it's the Apollo.

spk_0 The top of the empire say building.

spk_0 It's real.

spk_0 So wait, since you own the subject of the Apollo, there's no, there's someone that I am cheering for in the world of comedy.

spk_0 Well, besides you.

spk_0 Oh, yes, you're my hero.

spk_0 Jessica Moore is, well, just hilarious or just with the mess.

spk_0 Just hilarious.

spk_0 She is one of my favorite Instagram comedies.

spk_0 Like what she's done.

spk_0 The only show.

spk_0 Are you doing?

spk_0 No, not Jessica Williams.

spk_0 She's just, just with the mess or just hilarious is what she is on, on Instagram.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 She even with, is that your banks and everybody?

spk_0 She, yeah, she uses all 59 seconds of her Instagram account to do awesome crafted comedy bits.

spk_0 Where she kind of gives you the ratchet news of the week.

spk_0 And it's to the point where like that's my show.

spk_0 Well, she's funny.

spk_0 Similar to what's his name?

spk_0 Who's, who's like the star of vine?

spk_0 What's his name?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 He was in the movie with Santa Rosa.

spk_0 Oh, my God.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 Wait, he's not really.

spk_0 Yeah, he did.

spk_0 He was in the movie.

spk_0 Oh, my God.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 He was in speed.

spk_0 Oh, my God.

spk_0 Now we're all going to forget his name.

spk_0 King that.

spk_0 Yeah, King.

spk_0 Oh, yeah.

spk_0 Sort of like, how do you, I didn't do it.

spk_0 We need them.

spk_0 It's probably.

spk_0 It's a ghost.

spk_0 Less, less about how do you feel about graduating and kind of cutting the front of the

spk_0 bank line?

spk_0 What do you recommend to those who are now going to make their careers off of strictly YouTube

spk_0 and Instagram to get to come?

spk_0 Or is it just, I don't know.

spk_0 That wasn't my past.

spk_0 I couldn't give them any advice.

spk_0 Is that like, trap music to me or like, uh, well, you said that pejoratively, but I don't

spk_0 think that they pejoratively.

spk_0 I don't.

spk_0 Northwestern.

spk_0 Um, I don't think.

spk_0 Please, give me my credit.

spk_0 I got that degree.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Um, yeah, I don't know.

spk_0 I think, I think whatever they choose to do is, is remains to be seen.

spk_0 I don't, you know, Francesca Ramsey is a fantastic YouTube star who's got a pilot.

spk_0 She's shooting out for Comedy Central and like, you know, I just kind of just, I don't

spk_0 know.

spk_0 I keep hearing that they all get these shows, but then I don't know what's going to happen.

spk_0 Like, Joanne, the scammers do want to pilot for Netflix.

spk_0 Like, I'm so excited.

spk_0 What?

spk_0 I know, but I don't know.

spk_0 Like, I never see these things come to the light of day and I wish I would.

spk_0 So I don't know what the disconnect is.

spk_0 I don't know if it's because they don't know the business a lot.

spk_0 But like, Francesca is the person I think has a really good chance of making it because

spk_0 well, she's already made it.

spk_0 But like, somebody who can really translate over to TV because she's been in the business.

spk_0 We hired her at the nightly show, brought her on as a correspondent.

spk_0 Like, she's done the kind and she's like a writer also.

spk_0 But some of these people, I don't know if they write.

spk_0 I don't know if they know TV.

spk_0 I don't know if they know how to make a product for TV.

spk_0 But what I'm asking is the definition of quote, making it right is different.

spk_0 The end of the ellipsis is making it that dot, dot in our world, which is the standard

spk_0 that we've known of a long form comedy.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 But what if that medium that they're doing now is going to be the standard for which

spk_0 we digest our entertainment?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Well, I mean, I think we all have to adjust.

spk_0 I think late night comedy on streaming and on demand has proven to be tough.

spk_0 You know, Chelsea Show just went down.

spk_0 I'm shocked about that because I thought it was doing the numbers.

spk_0 I don't know if it was or not.

spk_0 She made it sound like she made the move to focus on activism.

spk_0 So it may have just been her choice.

spk_0 I'm not sure.

spk_0 But I think Bill Niesel, the only other one that has a streaming talk show.

spk_0 So yeah, I don't, I'm not sure.

spk_0 Like right now for late night, it seems to still be a TV game.

spk_0 But digital matters, you know, to go viral, but you have to be on a TV terrestrial platform

spk_0 to cross over to the digital viral platform.

spk_0 It's weird.

spk_0 But yeah, I think I think there's a lot of TV like comedy that's happening on streaming.

spk_0 That's really funny.

spk_0 I mean, look at, can we, you know, look at that.

spk_0 Those are people who are comedians who are, you know, who definitely translate.

spk_0 So I think there's room for everybody.

spk_0 I didn't answer your question.

spk_0 Move on.

spk_0 Can we, can we talk about your show now?

spk_0 Yes, please.

spk_0 What it was like to go from being a writer to now, some writer who writes for folks

spk_0 and now you write for yourself.

spk_0 Like what was that transition like?

spk_0 You write for yourself?

spk_0 I mean, like, but now you're like a performer.

spk_0 So people always ask that question, but I never stopped performing.

spk_0 It's like when people ask Eddie, what was it like when you fell off?

spk_0 And he's like, check my resume.

spk_0 I always made movies.

spk_0 Every year he's made a movie.

spk_0 That's what's crazy about Eddie Murphy.

spk_0 But anyway, I just really put myself in the same sense as Eddie Murphy.

spk_0 Forgive me.

spk_0 Forgive me, black Jesus.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So I've always been performing.

spk_0 Even when I was head writer in the nightly show, I was still on the show like three nights a week.

spk_0 So...

spk_0 Should be now that you're like the focus, it's your show.

spk_0 I tend to think I was the focus on everything I asked about.

spk_0 That's clear.

spk_0 I've learned that over the past 45 minutes.

spk_0 Thank you.

spk_0 And how's Navi?

spk_0 Were you at choosing writers for your own show?

spk_0 Very, very.

spk_0 Very well, I will actually answer your question.

spk_0 It is different when it's on you, for sure.

spk_0 But how different is it that you're the star of the show and you answer to a show runner,

spk_0 a head writer, as opposed to where I was going to go with it before you just get the damn

spk_0 line of the question of you being a head writer for Larry show before you got your show.

spk_0 What's easier?

spk_0 Your question was so confused.

spk_0 Listen, I'm lost.

spk_0 I'm lost.

spk_0 I'm lost, too.

spk_0 It wasn't my loss.

spk_0 My question was, before you got your own show, you were the head writer of Larry show.

spk_0 It was the same exact question.

spk_0 Yeah, okay, yeah.

spk_0 No, he said he just skipped to your show as if...

spk_0 It was in the context of Bill's question, but I understand.

spk_0 The interview is over.

spk_0 Why aren't we all high?

spk_0 I don't understand.

spk_0 Because some of us just aren't smart enough to get high.

spk_0 Anyway, I'll shut up for the next one, man.

spk_0 You'd five talk amongst us.

spk_0 Who's the lead?

spk_0

spk_0 No, I got what you're saying.

spk_0 Larry Wilmore.

spk_0 No, I got it.

spk_0 I got it.

spk_0 So, to answer your question, I think that the wait is on me now, right?

spk_0 And I've talked to all the guys, Anne Sandby.

spk_0 And Larry said, yeah, it's different now, huh?

spk_0 Which kind of answers your question.

spk_0 Which was like, he said to me, you thought you knew what the wait was on me, you know,

spk_0 when you were my head writer, but it's different now.

spk_0 And I was like, you're so right.

spk_0 And there's nothing that can explain it except by being in that position.

spk_0 There's something like, as his head writer, I wanted to take care of him and make sure

spk_0 he had the funniest jokes and keep the writers organized and keep them happy and keep him happy

spk_0 and just make a great show.

spk_0 My focus was on doing whatever made him the best comedian to give the best show.

spk_0 And now it's like, I'm looking at people to do that for me.

spk_0 But the problem is, I came with all of that experience.

spk_0 So I think people expect more from me.

spk_0 Like, I'm not like the helpless talent.

spk_0 So the problem is for me, I have to break myself of the head writer show running like,

spk_0 you know, tendencies for sure.

spk_0 Because, and I think we're still finding that to be honest, because I do, I'm trying to be

spk_0 in every meeting and they had to be like, get out.

spk_0 You know, Colbert had said the same thing when he got his new show.

spk_0 They had to kick him out.

spk_0 I knew it.

spk_0 I think that being the star of your show, and always use this Ray Crock, Ronald McDonald

spk_0 example, but I feel like as Ronald McDonald, as the face of your product, I mean, I know

spk_0 I'm like, but God damn you.

spk_0 And you're clown.

spk_0 You're right.

spk_0 When you do you write about that.

spk_0 Now the show's over.

spk_0 No, but I feel like when you're the face of your product, when you're Ronald McDonald,

spk_0 you should let Ray Crock be Ray Crock.

spk_0 You should.

spk_0 Like boss Bill is Ray Crock.

spk_0 Which one is Ray Crock?

spk_0 Ray Crock was the founder.

spk_0 He was the founder.

spk_0 Oh, that's right.

spk_0 The movie.

spk_0 I'm sorry.

spk_0 I thought he was one of the other characters.

spk_0 He was premise.

spk_0 Ray Crock is premise.

spk_0

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Michael Keaton.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 So what I'm saying.

spk_0 You made me sound like you used to be.

spk_0 I'm a rock with Donald's metaphor all the fucking time.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 You stopped my ever heard in my life.

spk_0 I know the Ray Crock.

spk_0 That's all the time.

spk_0 I'm a Ray Crock McDonald.

spk_0 I'm a shit.

spk_0 I'm afraid of Robin's team in the room.

spk_0 Listen to this.

spk_0 I love it.

spk_0 Well, but okay.

spk_0 I know some people that can't let go.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And they got to make every decision.

spk_0 Yeah, it's hard for me.

spk_0 I tell you.

spk_0 Oh, you too.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 I'm sorry.

spk_0 No.

spk_0 So again, because you know, you have the vision.

spk_0 Is it easy for you to be in control?

spk_0 Or is it easier for you to be one on McDonald's?

spk_0 Not look.

spk_0 I think I enjoy both.

spk_0 But there's a reason I created my own show after I left Larry show as opposed to, you

spk_0 know, go on to somebody else's show.

spk_0 Actually, we need to tell that story.

spk_0 You know, you are an integral part of that story.

spk_0 But anyway, can we do that to show our right now?

spk_0 Are you in order because they have my head.

spk_0 Well, we just went all over the place.

spk_0 I was just talking.

spk_0 Would you have a breakfast this morning?

spk_0 No, so tell that story.

spk_0 I don't get to eat anymore.

spk_0 My schedule's too busy.

spk_0 Now, what did I have?

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 There's some eggs.

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 But the end of that is that it is really difficult.

spk_0 And I'm trying to take myself out of my meetings.

spk_0 But the thing is I, you also get this sixth sense when you are the host of a show and when

spk_0 you create a show, you can see everything.

spk_0 You can hear everything.

spk_0 You know, everything that's going on.

spk_0 It's weird.

spk_0 You literally have an extra sense.

spk_0 And people are like, you don't miss a thing.

spk_0 And I can see like when something's not working, I can see it an hour before somebody else

spk_0 sees it.

spk_0 And so my problem is letting people not fail, but letting them find out that what they're

spk_0 doing is not going to work when I knew it a day ago or an hour ago.

spk_0 You know, that's my problem.

spk_0 That's what I'm struggling with because I, you're, I don't know.

spk_0 I really have this weird.

spk_0 I don't know how to describe it any other way, but I can see more now.

spk_0 And so that's hard for me.

spk_0 I'm trying to figure out how to let people just figure it out for themselves.

spk_0 So you trust it.

spk_0 I do trust them though.

spk_0 I was going to say you do show runner.

spk_0 No, I absolutely do.

spk_0 No, I would tell you if I didn't.

spk_0 No, and the reason why I hired the person I hired is because I've known him for years.

spk_0 And I knew that whatever I needed, he was going to be there to say, hey, step out of that.

spk_0 I got it.

spk_0 You know, so, so you have to do that.

spk_0 And I have co-executive producers who are amazing.

spk_0 These amazing team of women who are like, they just have my back.

spk_0 So that's what's made it easier for me.

spk_0 But it's just a personal thing.

spk_0 It doesn't matter how much people take care of you.

spk_0 If you're used to the one being, you know, being the one that making all the decisions.

spk_0 So that's a process.

spk_0 Did you purposely staff your, your writing staff?

spk_0 I mean, it's, this is feels like a dumb question.

spk_0 But with women, did you make sure that certain, and then black women?

spk_0 Because you know, there's been a whole pride and more black female writers.

spk_0 There's not a lot this season on a lot of new shows.

spk_0 Correct.

spk_0 And I have doubled the number, which I've done twice in my career.

spk_0 I did it at the nightly show and then when we got canceled and then when I hired.

spk_0 I have a room of, we only have one writer.

spk_0 My room is all black people, half women and half men.

spk_0 And so yeah, I single handedly employed the most black women in late night.

spk_0 And my staff is 70% women in people of color.

spk_0 Which is crazy.

spk_0 That's never been done.

spk_0 Ever in late night television.

spk_0 It's heaven.

spk_0 When people come in, we have bottles of cocoa butter.

spk_0 I kid you not.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 We have it constantly.

spk_0 We introduced all the white people on our staff to cocoa butter.

spk_0 They're like, this is a miracle.

spk_0 Somebody came in today and said, it smells like cookies.

spk_0 I said, that's the cocoa butter.

spk_0 I kid you that.

spk_0 Bill, do you know what that is?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 We have, we have like, you know, you know, it's just like, it's fun.

spk_0 Like we had Amber Ruppen from Seth Meyers and Ashina Colblac from San

spk_0 B on our podcast, which we tape in our office on Fridays.

spk_0 And they came in and Amber was just like walking around real slow.

spk_0 I said, hurry up.

spk_0 Come on.

spk_0 We got a tape.

spk_0 She was like, I've just never seen this many black people in an office before.

spk_0 She was like, let alone a TV show.

spk_0 She was like, I don't know what this is.

spk_0 This is crazy.

spk_0 Essence or?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So it's dope.

spk_0 I love it.

spk_0 I love that we've been able to do that.

spk_0 Because that's what I preach.

spk_0 Like more black people need to be in this genre.

spk_0 Like more black people behind the scenes in front of the camera.

spk_0 So, yeah.

spk_0 So, who's assisted it used to be on Larry Wymor with you?

spk_0 I always do.

spk_0 Which one?

spk_0 Holly Walker, Francesca, I guess it was Holly.

spk_0

spk_0 It was Holly because you two were all seemed like to always be paired up.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 We've known each other forever.

spk_0 She was one of my teachers at Second City years ago.

spk_0 She's fantastic.

spk_0 She's a genius.

spk_0 I wonder where she went.

spk_0 She's dope.

spk_0 She was a writer of a performance in the 90s.

spk_0 She's dope.

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spk_0 Hey, I'm Jay Chetty, host of the on-purpose podcast.

spk_0 I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B.

spk_0 My marriage, I felt the love dying. I was crying every day.

spk_0 I felt in the deepest depression that I had ever had.

spk_0 I'm not this evil mean person that people think that I am. I'm too compassionate.

spk_0 Put so much heart and soul into your work.

spk_0 I worked my ass off for me. Even when I was a stripper, I'm going to beat the best pole dancer in here.

spk_0 When was the moment you felt? I didn't.

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spk_0 The kind of political climate that we're living in right now.

spk_0 I don't like this question. You want to talk about how you helped me create this show?

spk_0 That's what we were doing.

spk_0 We forgot. We forgot.

spk_0 Okay. How did I help you create this show?

spk_0 You know this, right?

spk_0 We're on my radio show.

spk_0 No, I know.

spk_0 But you were looking to like take a shock which is weird.

spk_0 Okay. So, so.

spk_0 So I, so the nightly show been canceled.

spk_0 And I was a little sad.

spk_0 And a mirror texted me I think.

spk_0 And was like, should pale eight o'clock.

spk_0 Like, let's go.

spk_0 And I was like, okay.

spk_0 But I mean, I texted you back because I was like, hi, but I was like, well, I don't think you know this.

spk_0 I was actually really sad.

spk_0 And like, I didn't want to leave my house.

spk_0 And I was like, in pajamas. And then I was like, fuck it though. It's your pill. We got to go.

spk_0 So we went to go see your pill.

spk_0 And you took me backstage and you were like, you know, Dave, right?

spk_0 And I was like, no, we've never met.

spk_0 I know all these other things. I don't know Dave.

spk_0 So then Dave was like, hey.

spk_0 And you were like, hey, and you were like, you know, Robin, right?

spk_0 And he was like, uh, and you were like from the nightly show.

spk_0 And he was like, oh, right. Both of us don't have jobs.

spk_0 Like this was just happening the nightly show.

spk_0 And I was like, hey, you're right.

spk_0 And then, and then he says what he always says to me now, which was, uh, are you white?

spk_0 What is you? What is you? Are you white?

spk_0 And then he's like, no, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

spk_0 And so he said, what are you doing now that the nightly show is over?

spk_0 And I said, oh, I'm actually going to go.

spk_0 I think I'm going to go try to work on somebody else's talk show.

spk_0 Um, I've got some offers, uh, because I had offers from most of the white dudes in the late night.

spk_0 And, um, thank you.

spk_0 And so, uh, uh, I was like, oh, I'm at go work on social.

spk_0 And he was like, nah, do your own show.

spk_0 And I was like, ah, but I feel like I need to, you know, be in it a little bit more.

spk_0 Get my name out there a little bit more. And he was like, no, go do your own show.

spk_0 And so, um, he said it was really, that was really accurate.

spk_0 Oh, oh, go do your show.

spk_0 And so, um, I'm going to record then make that part of our head.

spk_0 So, so I was like, wow, maybe I should do my own show.

spk_0 And then I don't know if you remember this.

spk_0 We were trying to meet up with rock.

spk_0 This was a very like Hollywood, New York night.

spk_0 But we were trying to meet up with a shot.

spk_0 And say my name to him.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Completely.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 I know.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 So, tonight you were in with Quasla.

spk_0 I was hanging with Quasla.

spk_0 Dave Shabbell and Spike Joe.

spk_0 And so, he was also standing there.

spk_0 And we were trying to go get chicken at the spot.

spk_0 You know, it was weird.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 You always say people to get chicken.

spk_0 Always.

spk_0 We found chicken many times.

spk_0 But yes, this was the, this is the same.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 The weirdest thing about this night.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Was that I didn't realize that was Spike Jones until six minutes.

spk_0 Oh, my God.

spk_0 And to talking to him.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 I remember you telling me this.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I didn't know what Spike Joe was.

spk_0 I saw the epiphany on your face.

spk_0 You were not slick.

spk_0 And then you were, and then you tried to clean it up.

spk_0 You were like, yeah, I just saw your video with Soto.

spk_0 Oh.

spk_0 And all of that.

spk_0 I was at your inspiration.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And you were.

spk_0 Or are you that smart?

spk_0 I think I just know you.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Because he was very flattered.

spk_0 He could not have been nicer.

spk_0 But you were like, in the end of the video.

spk_0 And oh, man.

spk_0 And then the treadmill.

spk_0 Because I had to lay her in.

spk_0 I knew it was there.

spk_0 And you went extra hard.

spk_0 I'm letting him know that.

spk_0 Oh, my God.

spk_0 You see right through me, Robin.

spk_0 I know.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 We got to get married now.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Goodbye.

spk_0 So, so, so we went to go get chicken.

spk_0 And we couldn't find Chris or Dave.

spk_0 And so it was just me and me and me and chicken.

spk_0 And the chicken was fantastic.

spk_0 But it was like, you were not so much chicken.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I was just wondering why you were chicken right now.

spk_0 Blue Ribbon.

spk_0 No, it was not.

spk_0 No.

spk_0 Was it a trend table?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 It was probably blue ribbon.

spk_0 No, it was not.

spk_0 It's a place where we have to go up the rickety staircase.

spk_0 Oh.

spk_0 I love the word.

spk_0 It's got some fried chicken right now.

spk_0 I took you to my secret spot.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 That's why I was going to say I wasn't going to say the name.

spk_0 Like Robin, I actually do might like you.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 You do might like you.

spk_0 That's so cute.

spk_0 No, that's great.

spk_0 I don't know about that.

spk_0 Do you remember the first chicken spot that I talked about on our pilot?

spk_0 I was a little.

spk_0 It's a secret spot.

spk_0 Yeah, it's a secret spot.

spk_0 Damn.

spk_0 What's up with the Motown stuff player?

spk_0 Damn.

spk_0 If only take the top tier bitches, was it?

spk_0 Damn.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Let me.

spk_0 It's good that you remember it.

spk_0 I didn't remember.

spk_0 You are.

spk_0 I remember this whole night.

spk_0 But that means I really like you as a person.

spk_0 I know we have not been there.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Nobody.

spk_0 I didn't have that.

spk_0 Not with him.

spk_0 There's something that I wouldn't say the name or where it is.

spk_0 There's certain people I can't let me.

spk_0 Nothing see me like throw down on chicken.

spk_0 It was great.

spk_0 We ate the chicken on that.

spk_0 It was the best show we ever did.

spk_0 You remember that?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 We were like this and then after the chicken we were all out.

spk_0 Oh, that chicken will put you straight.

spk_0 Just look.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So, so we went there and I don't remember how much we really talked about it that night.

spk_0 But I was like, God, I think Dave is right.

spk_0 So, I had a meeting two days later at Jack's Media who does a full fun, double-sambie, Amy

spk_0 Schumer's, Inside Amy Schumer, Broad City.

spk_0 It's an amazing production company.

spk_0 And I was going there to meet with them to run a different show.

spk_0 I was like, well, maybe I'll just go meet with them about this sitcom whenever.

spk_0 To like run it.

spk_0 Not even going to be on it.

spk_0 And we were having this conversation and they were like, so if you were to do your own

spk_0 Late Night Show, just like, we were just shooting the shit.

spk_0 I wasn't in there to pitch.

spk_0 I didn't have a pitch on me.

spk_0 And they were like, so if you were going to do your own late night show, what would it be?

spk_0 I was like, I don't know.

spk_0 Probably just everything I do, like sketch, you know, political satire, but also like pop culture

spk_0 satire because I care about what Black China is doing as much as I care about what the president is doing.

spk_0 And they were like, that's dope.

spk_0 We'll buy it.

spk_0 So you were first for them too because as I know, he was the first piece of brown for that production company.

spk_0 You say you name like Amy Brodsford and that's his brown company.

spk_0 But I don't think they have any other shows predeterminately Black people on them.

spk_0 That's for sure.

spk_0 But they did produce top five.

spk_0 And they got, they got some stuff under that.

spk_0 They have a lot of good show.

spk_0 They're really great.

spk_0 But they were like, yo, so because I told him the story about Dave.

spk_0 And then they said, oh, well, and your friends with Chris, I was like, yeah.

spk_0 And then they were like, well, we'll just call Chris.

spk_0 So I was like, okay.

spk_0 And I walked out the meeting.

spk_0 I was like, that's not a thing.

spk_0 Like, that's not how you sell a show, right?

spk_0 Because I've been picture shows my whole life.

spk_0 And I'm like, that's not how it works.

spk_0 And then a couple days later, they called and they were like, yeah.

spk_0 So, yeah, we're going to make your show Chris Thumbord.

spk_0 I was like, wait, Chris didn't even have any.

spk_0 What?

spk_0 I was like, you're not serious.

spk_0 And they were like, yeah, we call Chris.

spk_0 And we said, Robert Theddy's doing a show.

spk_0 It's a mix of politics and pop culture.

spk_0 It's late night.

spk_0 And he goes, yes.

spk_0 And they go, do you want us to tell you more?

spk_0 And he goes, no, I said, yes.

spk_0 And we were like, what?

spk_0 And like, the way it came together was so crazy.

spk_0 And then we shot a pilot and then networks bit on it and we went to BT.

spk_0 And now we're on.

spk_0 Damn, we all lived happily ever after.

spk_0 We did.

spk_0 That was perfect.

spk_0 Because there was nobody else to feel that.

spk_0 Like you really, you were the answer.

spk_0 Because when you think about it, like who else do you think about,

spk_0 they could feel that void in that way.

spk_0 You know, I know a lot of women who could do it.

spk_0 But the thing that Chris always says, the reason why he signed on to this so quickly

spk_0 is not because I was funny, because he knows plenty of people who are funny.

spk_0 But because he knew I could create and run a show.

spk_0 And he knew that when it came to making the pilot and when it came to making the show,

spk_0 I was going to put people in charge who were great.

spk_0 And he knows my standard of quality is like way high.

spk_0 So, you know, I wasn't.

spk_0 And it didn't matter where we went.

spk_0 It wasn't like, oh, well, we'll make a good show for BET.

spk_0 It's like, no, we're going to make a show that's going to rival anything else out there.

spk_0 You know, with whatever budget we get.

spk_0 But, you know, we wanted to make something that anybody could watch.

spk_0 But it was nice that we went to BET because BET only gave us two directives.

spk_0 They said, we want to make the show that you want to make.

spk_0 But it's got to be unapologetically black and add some music every now and then.

spk_0 I was like, bet. Great.

spk_0 What network would tell you that?

spk_0 The title is changing over there.

spk_0 It really is.

spk_0 No, it really is.

spk_0 And there they're.

spk_0

spk_0 They're really open to having things that they haven't had.

spk_0 Or things that they've tried.

spk_0 You know, they tried the TJ home show.

spk_0 But they didn't really try it with the comedian.

spk_0 So, you know, I think they wanted something in the genre.

spk_0 And this was when Steven Hill was still there.

spk_0 So, they needed something smart.

spk_0 Like they needed smart cool at the same time.

spk_0 Yeah, I think they were really excited about what we were bringing in.

spk_0 What they knew I could bring to the network.

spk_0 And it was really a homecoming for me because my first technically,

spk_0 my first writing job was on the BET Awards.

spk_0 That's what got me into the writer's guild.

spk_0 Which year were you?

spk_0 Don't say yes.

spk_0 I'm sorry.

spk_0 A couple of years back.

spk_0 I said rock was dead.

spk_0 No, no, no, that wasn't the first.

spk_0 My first BET Awards was 2007.

spk_0 It was with.

spk_0 Wait, you didn't throw jokes at.

spk_0 I thought that's how.

spk_0 No, that's how.

spk_0 No, I met Chris Rock because of you.

spk_0 You told Chris Rock I was funny and then he hired me to write for

spk_0 write sketches for him.

spk_0 I was already doing the BET Awards here.

spk_0 But yeah, that's all it takes to get in the shower.

spk_0 I'll just say.

spk_0 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

spk_0 When I die, you will realize that I'm a bridge.

spk_0 You told, no, I was already going to work.

spk_0 So I work for the BET Awards for like 10 years from 2007 to like,

spk_0 well, not until 2017.

spk_0 But I wrote many years in between that.

spk_0 And so when Chris was hosting, Chris hired his writers.

spk_0 But then they have other writers of write like sketches and monologue bits and

spk_0 or bits for other people.

spk_0 But Chris met me when I walked in.

spk_0 And then they went into the meeting late as fuck too.

spk_0 They had given me the wrong time.

spk_0 Did I tell you this story?

spk_0 B-T.

spk_0 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

spk_0 This was all me.

spk_0 This was all this, I had not a do a BET.

spk_0 I just read their email wrong.

spk_0 I got there at the wrong time.

spk_0 And I walked in and Chris walks sitting there holding court with like Leslie Jones and John Maxx.

spk_0 All these amazing writers, comedians.

spk_0 And I walked in and I was like, oh, and I was like, hey,

spk_0 and I literally was one of those things where I had to walk around to everybody to get to the

spk_0 where accident, slow motion.

spk_0 Everyone staring at me.

spk_0 And I'm like, hey, everybody.

spk_0 And Chris goes, who are you?

spk_0 And I was like Robin Theddy.

spk_0 And he goes, Amir said you're funny.

spk_0 And I was like, well, he does have good taste.

spk_0 And then the whole room started cracking up.

spk_0 And he goes, okay, okay.

spk_0 But that was the test.

spk_0 It was like, if I hadn't said something funny to him, I think it would have been all downhill.

spk_0 Yo, Robin, can you walk us through?

spk_0 Because I'm so curious about the process of a war show.

spk_0 Like, did you just say it was a room of people and then people, certain people do different segments?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I'm all like, how does that work?

spk_0 So every host is different.

spk_0 Usually what happens is there's an in-house crew of three to four writers who write all the

spk_0 present orbits and all the kind of connective tissue and stuff.

spk_0 So all the stuff that the actors get up there and fuck up, you know, they work really hard for weeks on end

spk_0 to craft something really funny.

spk_0 And then what ends up happening is the artist or the publicist or whatever read it.

spk_0 And then they're like, ah, our client doesn't want to do that.

spk_0 And then it becomes like this weird amalgamation of something.

spk_0 And then they get on stage and forget their glasses and they just say what they want.

spk_0 That's why a war show is never funny.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 Because not for lack of writing.

spk_0 Like people are always like, ah, B-T and these new writers or whatever.

spk_0 It's like, no, trust me.

spk_0 The bits are really funny.

spk_0 But just stuff goes crazy.

spk_0 Like, I don't know.

spk_0 People just say what they want.

spk_0 And sometimes the bits work really well.

spk_0 But so then the host comes and whatever the host is usually hired as their own team of writers as well.

spk_0 Do you recommend that?

spk_0 I do.

spk_0 You always say people who can write those.

spk_0 I feel like that's an S&L.

spk_0 Whenever like, well, that's because the host is getting their eyes in.

spk_0 Yeah, because S&L has 25 writers who are all at the top of their game.

spk_0 So an S&L is writing for a specific site.

spk_0 They know themselves better.

spk_0 They know themselves better than you know them.

spk_0 I think at S&L, it doesn't make that much sense.

spk_0 But I think if you're hosting an award show where you're selling your personality and you're the host,

spk_0 yeah, you definitely need your own writers.

spk_0 And Chris, the funny thing is people like Chris, they hire writers, but they don't need them.

spk_0 Chris Rock does not need writers.

spk_0 He comes in with material that's already killer three months before the show.

spk_0 I'm telling you, there's some comedians who definitely need writers.

spk_0 But, um, and I am one of them.

spk_0 Let's be real.

spk_0 I mean, I'm a great writer, but I have to write my jokes.

spk_0 Like, I need to craft my jokes and I could, I could absolutely write all my own material.

spk_0 But I'm like music.

spk_0 I think comedy you should bounce off of other people.

spk_0 Yeah, I do too.

spk_0 I do too.

spk_0 And there's no shame.

spk_0 Kevin has that.

spk_0 Kevin will stand in the circle.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I mean, six guys will be like, yeah, but Kevin's also very funny on his own.

spk_0 I wrote for Kevin too.

spk_0 Kevin's Kevin's very funny.

spk_0 And you have Kevin something.

spk_0 You can give Kevin something like, here's the cool thing.

spk_0 So, so Chris is like a word Smith.

spk_0 You, everything those words have to be in a formula.

spk_0 And he will mess with it for months, years until he hits a joke, right?

spk_0 Kevin Hart, you can literally go, okay, Kevin, here's the joke.

spk_0 Uh, the door is going to open and you're going to say,

spk_0 well, I don't even know what time it is, right?

spk_0 And like, that's not a joke, right?

spk_0 But he will come in and be like, I don't do a Kevin impression,

spk_0 but he will come in and make, well, I don't even know, you know,

spk_0 I don't even know what time it is, you know, whatever.

spk_0 That's a terrible Kevin Hart.

spk_0 That's why I do not do impressions.

spk_0 His body language and that style.

spk_0 His body language, his style, but also just that crazy-ass voice.

spk_0 He can make anything funny.

spk_0 Really, he really can't.

spk_0 I've never seen anything like it.

spk_0 Is the voice important in comedy, V voice?

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 I was going to say, how long have you had, you have this sort of scratchy,

spk_0 Joan Rivers thing going on?

spk_0 I usually get Catholic Griffin.

spk_0 I can hear that now.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 But even she said, Joan, but I'm just saying how long have you had this scratchy voice?

spk_0 Uh, because you can go Jewish grandmother, you can go hood, you can go.

spk_0 Racist.

spk_0 Um, Italian grandmother.

spk_0 Still racist.

spk_0 Still racist, even more.

spk_0 German grandmother.

spk_0 That is my heritage.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 So you can do that.

spk_0 Um, yeah.

spk_0 How long have I had this voice?

spk_0 Since Jesus Puppet.

spk_0 Yeah, probably.

spk_0 It actually changed when I had, uh, when I stopped eating dairy.

spk_0 This is actually true.

spk_0 This is not interesting.

spk_0 Feel free to cut it.

spk_0 Ten years ago, I stopped eating dairy because it would make me sick.

spk_0 And like my throat would start closing up and I realized I was like, definitely allergic to dairy.

spk_0 And my voice became scratchier and less nasally.

spk_0 I used to kind of talk like, no, I didn't.

spk_0 But like, it did sound more nasally.

spk_0 Like, uh, yeah.

spk_0 And I knew that.

spk_0 And now you're clear.

spk_0 That's crazy.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Now I'm clear.

spk_0 I'm clear and raspy.

spk_0 I see.

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 It's always kind of been this way since then.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Now that you're talking, this is the clear.

spk_0 This is the salt tree.

spk_0 It's your voice is sound.

spk_0 But what do you mean?

spk_0 My voice is always sound.

spk_0 But in the beginning of the show, you had the Kathy sledge.

spk_0 I know.

spk_0 It's scratchy.

spk_0 It's just because I talk a lot right now.

spk_0 I just came from rewrite like our shows tomorrow.

spk_0 Why did I agree to do a two hour podcast the night before I need to take my ass?

spk_0 We're talking, yeah, we're talking after we got, we have a tendency to keep our guest up way past there.

spk_0 This could go forever.

spk_0 It's 10 minutes.

spk_0 Don't look at your clock.

spk_0 Jesus Christ, you got 10 minutes.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 You guys are so fun.

spk_0 Thank you.

spk_0 Stay picked up my hat for me.

spk_0 Thank you for introducing me to, what's his name?

spk_0 Duckworth.

spk_0 Oh my god.

spk_0 How dope is he?

spk_0 Did you know Duckworth?

spk_0 Amir?

spk_0 Did I know?

spk_0 Did you, were you aware of Duckworth?

spk_0 I know of Duckworth.

spk_0 You did.

spk_0 I didn't know personally.

spk_0 Did you see him on the show?

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 Oh, he's dope, right?

spk_0 Yeah, I was gonna say, I love your, your, your, I was kind of jealous of the music.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So you told me you were going to do that.

spk_0 I told you.

spk_0

spk_0 I told you.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I told you.

spk_0 Also.

spk_0 I told you.

spk_0 Actually, it's pretty cool.

spk_0 Uh, it kind of is out of shape in right now.

spk_0

spk_0 That's sort of the-, it's really cool in park now.

spk_0 I's out of shape that birthed upon itself.

spk_0 Mm hm.

spk_0 My hair.

spk_0 Your hair.

spk_0

spk_0 You know it's pretty 이� different.

spk_0

spk_0 This is something that you will totally geek out on.

spk_0 Like if you just binge the show whenever you have time,

spk_0 you will see I Body Roll at least once in every episode.

spk_0 It's like a secret and now we're like elevating

spk_0 where you'll find it.

spk_0 It's not in a regular place.

spk_0 You see it?

spk_0 And it's smooth ass body roll, too.

spk_0 Boss Bill is doing the fat, outward invisible cheer.

spk_0

spk_0 I am such a proponent of the body roll.

spk_0 I think everybody should body roll

spk_0 as twice a day.

spk_0 Correct.

spk_0 I do it all the time.

spk_0 But I kept doing it in these sketches

spk_0 we were shooting and in the music and all this stuff.

spk_0 And they were like, yo, everything we edit,

spk_0 your body rolling.

spk_0 I'm like, yeah.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So that's your easter egg.

spk_0 Damn.

spk_0 Yeah, that's the easter egg.

spk_0 Look for it.

spk_0 I have a question.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 So I don't think I get it.

spk_0 Do you know what I'm saying?

spk_0 I'm not.

spk_0 What is happening?

spk_0 I don't think I get BET on that.

spk_0 You get no problem.

spk_0 So that's no problem.

spk_0 He does.

spk_0 What channel?

spk_0 I mean, what time?

spk_0 What time?

spk_0 What day is it on?

spk_0 It's on Thursdays at 11 p.m. Eastern 10 p.m. Central.

spk_0 You can see it for free on BET.com full episodes.

spk_0 Seven days from when we air.

spk_0 So between from one episode to the next,

spk_0 you can see it for free.

spk_0 Otherwise, you got to log in.

spk_0 You can probably also bootleg it.

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 The work clips on YouTube.

spk_0 But yo, I really don't want this conversation to stop.

spk_0 But Robyn does.

spk_0 Robyn, what did you do?

spk_0 Robyn, are you single?

spk_0 Are you?

spk_0 I'm, anyway.

spk_0 Oh, you're a Robyn.

spk_0 Are you single?

spk_0 I am single.

spk_0 What are you looking?

spk_0 What is a man to you like a perfect non-perfect man?

spk_0 I mean, a man you can't make.

spk_0 Oh, sorry.

spk_0 Oh shit.

spk_0 We're in 70.

spk_0 I'm so sorry.

spk_0 No, no.

spk_0 I like men.

spk_0 OK.

spk_0 No, no.

spk_0 Just trying to steer.

spk_0 No, no, no.

spk_0 I mean, I felt her head are revives.

spk_0 So I just thought, right.

spk_0 I'm just saying that we should.

spk_0 Trying to lure all the men with my head are revives.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I don't like the woman noticed.

spk_0 I don't like the woman's head.

spk_0 I felt it.

spk_0 Men you like.

spk_0 I know, right.

spk_0 I feel your vibes I do.

spk_0 Your vibes.

spk_0 I do.

spk_0 OK.

spk_0 We didn't get weird.

spk_0 I'm weird.

spk_0 I don't see that.

spk_0 What question?

spk_0 She didn't answer the question for you, actually.

spk_0 Before we get.

spk_0 I love when the table's a tower.

spk_0 I thought you wanted to ask yours.

spk_0 No, you first.

spk_0 OK.

spk_0 What is your favorite Robin memory?

spk_0 Dun dun dun.

spk_0 Excuse me.

spk_0 Just to know everyone turned around and stared at a mirror

spk_0 right now, sweating bullets.

spk_0 I wasn't hiding a beat of sweat from him to his eye.

spk_0 Listen, listen.

spk_0 I am your conscience.

spk_0 I had to.

spk_0 That was good for you.

spk_0 Jamie Foxx, these guts.

spk_0 Whoa.

spk_0 Damn.

spk_0 I have to apologize.

spk_0 Sorry.

spk_0 Look it up.

spk_0 I had the best.

spk_0 OK.

spk_0 No, I have to plead the fifth on this.

spk_0 Why?

spk_0 Because it's a definite moment.

spk_0 But I can't say on the air.

spk_0 Because it also involves a third person.

spk_0 Can you just not say the first part?

spk_0 Oh, I know what it is.

spk_0 Can you tell the story?

spk_0 Does it involve an inside flood?

spk_0 Oh, you don't even remember.

spk_0 Was that cold?

spk_0 Was that inside flood?

spk_0 For some?

spk_0 No, no.

spk_0 Is an actual flood that happened inside a building.

spk_0 Oh.

spk_0 It's going to happen in Las Vegas.

spk_0 My love is thinking, y'all.

spk_0 Sorry.

spk_0 There's floods in Las Vegas.

spk_0 Oh, you are with us.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 I'm with you everywhere.

spk_0 Do you just look to your left?

spk_0 I'm there.

spk_0 Anyway, whatever.

spk_0 I'm lost.

spk_0 I know what it is.

spk_0 I'm lost.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 Well, tell a different story that you could tell.

spk_0 OK.

spk_0 I'm putting you on the spot.

spk_0 It's fine.

spk_0 I told seven stories about you, but it's fine.

spk_0 OK.

spk_0 You always were shorter.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Well, I literally told like 16 personal heartfelts.

spk_0 Yeah, do it so he can stall.

spk_0 We'll be back after you.

spk_0 Robin, we thank you.

spk_0 Thank you, guys.

spk_0 So much.

spk_0 We're coming for an adventure.

spk_0 Congratulations, girl.

spk_0 Thank you.

spk_0 Congratulations.

spk_0 Thank you.

spk_0 It doesn't sound the same.

spk_0 It's a homo black woman.

spk_0 No girl.

spk_0 Don't sound like.

spk_0

spk_0 I'll be there.

spk_0 Oh, my two boys.

spk_0

spk_0 There we go.

spk_0 We'll help you find BT.

spk_0 I'm 32.

spk_0

spk_0 We're going to help you.

spk_0 Take care.

spk_0

spk_0 Just help me.

spk_0 Get to the comment.

spk_0 I'll greet you two.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Bill, I'll make sure that the checks in the middle, as always.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 Thank you.

spk_0 Cocoa butter.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 Oh, I mean.

spk_0 We'll send you guys some cocoa.

spk_0 Make sure you get some cocoa butter, and in front, yes.

spk_0 We won't be crashing your wedding.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Yeah, it's very yes, I'm like aren't we missing someone yes, we're missing he's getting married right now

spk_0 So thank you for coming take on a show how I appreciate it

spk_0 And we will see you on the next go around the quest loves to premium this quest love sign off

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