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O Canada!
In this episode of 'Go Fork Yourself,' Andrew Zimmern and Molly Mogren dive into a humorous discussion about coffee, personal anecdotes, and their experiences at Niagara Falls. They share st...
O Canada!
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Speaker A
Coming to you live from high atop Foodworks headquarters, conveniently located directly above a subway sandwich shop, it's time for go fork yourself with me, Andrew Zimmer and my travel and food obsessed doppelganger, the lovely, the beautiful, the smart, the funny Molly Mogren. Slap on your helmet. Buckle up, kids. It's time to go fork yourself.
Speaker B
Oh, you make me want to barf.
Speaker A
Oh, that's how you're supposed to cup. I'm doing a cupping.
Speaker B
Okay. I want to ask you, how is that coffee?
Speaker A
Hold on a second. It's. It's really nice. There's some raisin and toast elements. There's a little after wash of. Of very nice fermented cacao, and it's low in acid. I. I admire this coffee. It's. It's Jaejun.
Speaker B
It's funny because when Jen made it for you, she was like, I think it's too strong. And I had to remind her that you used to do heroin. So it's probably fine.
Speaker A
Nothing is strong enough. I've got a great. I've got a great recovering heroin act story for you. Oh, you may have heard it before. Okay, so I'm like, I don't know, like five or six years sober and I am having an issue with one of my teeth in the back of my mouth.
Speaker B
Yep. And is this gonna be like a million little pieces story?
Speaker A
No.
Speaker B
Okay, good.
Speaker A
No Augustin Burrows or whatever?
Speaker B
No, no, no, it's the other James Frey.
Speaker A
Oh, James Frey, the. The fibbing guy? Yeah, the fibber. No, this is. This is real. And so I go to the dents, back and forth. There's. There's no doing. They're going to have to do an extraction, but the tooth is in a weird spot and they have to do some stuff with some jaw immobilization. It was like a level up from an ordinary extraction. So they said, look, we have to put you to sleep for this. So like I freak out. And you know, so I called my 12 step mentor. He said, using careful conference approved language. And I was like, I'm all anxious about this if they put me under and drugs. And he said, your life goes on. I mean, you could get into a car accident, you need to have surgery. And so you're going to have at life. They're going to have to give you pain pills for things. And yes, if you can tough it out with aspirin, great. But sometimes you can't. And under doctors care and supervision. And we discussed that the one issue for recovering people is like when a doctor gives someone, okay, here's 30, you know, Blankety blank pain pills, right? I usually say, just give me four for the first two days or whatever, and then you give them to someone else to give to you so that you're not, like, crushing them up and snorting them kind of. Right. So. Because I don't want to start abusing pain pills. Anyway, I get to the dentist's office, Laurie Strand, my dentist, who, you know, and Lori puts me in the chair, and she says, okay, so you're gonna count. You know, I'm gonna give you one chemical. And then when you start to feel.
Speaker B
Oh, God, I know where this is going.
Speaker A
Okay, yeah, let me know when we hit the plunger. And the other one, you count backwards from 100, and by the time you're at 97, you're asleep.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
So she gives me a dose of whatever drug number one is, and, you know, I don't know that, like, a minute goes by, and it should have taken, like, 10 seconds. So she gives me a little. Because I'm not a small man, right? So she gives me, whatever, another 10, 15% of it. And I'm just sitting there, and she says, are you. Comes back into the. From around little things. She's like, are you. Are you feeling all right? And I'm like, I have not felt. I mean, it was like an old friend had come to visit me, and she's like, so you feel something? I said, well, yeah, it feels great. And she says, well, I told you to tell me when. And I said, no, you said, when I feel uncomfortable. I said, yeah, this is my favorite comforting feeling. She's like, oh, you little. And she just hits the plunger, and out I go on the second chemical. The moral of the story being what it. Most people feel very uncomfortable being that.
Speaker B
Oh, high God.
Speaker A
20 seconds are just, like, dizzy and nauseous. Nauseous and tingly in place. And I'm just like, oh, my God. Hello. How I have missed you.
Speaker B
Oh, God. Yeah, I'm definitely not like that at all.
Speaker A
I mean, Reisha is the same way. She took a. She had major surgery and had some kind of, like, thing that was, like, one level above aspirin. And she just, like, tough. She threw him away because she just hated anything associated with an out of it feeling. She can't stand it.
Speaker B
Well, I don't mind feeling a little bit, like, tingly, but. Couch lock? No, thank you. I love Yuck.
Speaker A
If I look down and I have my hands on my chest, but I can't see or can't feel where my hands end and my chest begins. I know, I'm just starting to get into it.
Speaker B
Oh, that sounds absolutely awful.
Speaker A
But you gotta remember I had like 3 year old newspapers on the floor of my one room tenement house and I yanked the phone wires out of the wall. I mean, you know, it's a different kind of yes, just let me die in peace kind of feeling.
Speaker B
Wow. What a nice way to ring in this episode.
Speaker A
Now I drink coffee. It's good. You should hear me talking to Noah about it.
Speaker B
Oh God.
Speaker A
Because he's watching TV with us now, more and more. You'll love this when you have kids. And he's like asking questions that before would just go over his head. And now he's like, why is that man so messed up looking? Is that what pot does? Did he have too much beer? You know, or something like that? Where we'll see things like, you know, he'll watch Gotham with us and there's like drugs. He's like, daddy, didn't you do a lot of drugs? And my wife is just like, you know, snickering in the background. So it all comes back to haunt you.
Speaker B
Yeah, well, in a good way.
Speaker A
In a good way.
Speaker B
You especially.
Speaker A
How was your, how's your week been?
Speaker B
Great.
Speaker A
What have you been doing? What fun thing did you do this weekend?
Speaker B
Well, you know, remember I was in Vermont.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
So on our way back, we went. Did I talk about this, how we were going to Niagara Falls?
Speaker A
You. We heard you were going to go to Niagara Falls. I gave it a big thumbs up.
Speaker B
Yeah. So we.
Speaker A
Lady of the Mist.
Speaker B
Yeah, we went, we got there, we left Vermont Saturday evening. So we got to Niagara Falls, you know, midnight or something. So we could go the right away in the morning.
Speaker A
Yeah, perfect time.
Speaker B
Right? So here, here's the problem though. We had no passports, a dog and a cooler full of meat, so we couldn't go to Canada, which isn't really that big of a deal, but that's kind of where you get that awesome view.
Speaker A
Don't, don't you just for Canada use your driver's license?
Speaker B
Yeah, but we also had the dog and like a bunch of meat from the farm, you know, ah, bison and I just.
Speaker A
So they weren't gonna just let you.
Speaker B
And we were kind of on a tight schedule, so we weren't going to really try to mess with the border patrol, so we just stayed on the New York side.
Speaker A
Canadians. I've had my worst border stuff happen in Canadian airports, let alone at the land border.
Speaker B
Right. So we I don't want to mess with the Canadian.
Speaker A
Don't mess with the Canadians. They're scared because they have 7/10 of the world's fresh water supply.
Speaker B
Do they?
Speaker A
Yes.
Speaker B
And I thought that was in Minnesota.
Speaker A
No, 7, 10. Canada. Well, yes, correct. And I think we're going to invade Canada and take their water. We should make a movie about the 51st state. It should.
Speaker B
It should be a movie.
Speaker A
But I always tell my Canadian friends, any day now with the situation in California and now in Minnesota and you know, 18 states are now in severe drought. California is in a thousand year drought. And I mean we should just march in there. There's 17 million Canadians and I love Canada, but they have so much good stuff that we could use. They have Tim Hortons. You know, they've got great comedians.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
They've got all the fresh water.
Speaker B
Celine Dion.
Speaker A
Celine Dion. Well, she's now.
Speaker B
She's now in Vegas.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
And same with Biebs is back. Is here kind of too.
Speaker A
They're more American. I don't think he can legally return to Canada. Can.
Speaker B
Why wouldn't he be able to?
Speaker A
I don't think Canada wants him back.
Speaker B
Oh, is it because of the beaver fever?
Speaker A
I just think. Do you have Bieber fever?
Speaker B
No.
Speaker A
Did you at any time have Bieber fever?
Speaker B
Because your haircut is kind of Bieber y right now.
Speaker A
Well, no, it's more Kathy Rigby and Peter Pan.
Speaker B
Oh. I kind of like Julie Andrews and Sound of Music.
Speaker A
It's a little less Bobby. It's too hip and contemporary looking. You know what it is? It's Audrey Hepburnish.
Speaker B
Thank you.
Speaker A
It's a very chic haircut.
Speaker B
I wanted you to just about it. Just keep going until you said something like.
Speaker A
No, it's a really. It's a lovely haircut.
Speaker B
Thank you.
Speaker A
It's beautiful now. But the. I don't think Canada wants Bieber back. We want their water.
Speaker B
Maybe we could do trade.
Speaker A
I could just think of a bunch of chefs that I'd like to, you know, be here doing things. We could Americanize them and have them do chain restaurants.
Speaker B
Yeah. Oh, great.
Speaker A
We're good at that.
Speaker B
By the way. I just want to say Niagara Falls, New York. I really hate to say this, but what a shithole.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
God.
Speaker A
It's not Gary, Indiana. Let's put it right up there.
Speaker B
Oh, man.
Speaker A
And then on the Canada, really crappy American cities.
Speaker B
I mean, I hate to say it. And then it's weird how the Canada side there is all like hotels and casinos.
Speaker A
Well, because they can right Right.
Speaker B
Canada. Sorry.
Speaker A
Yeah. No, that was good.
Speaker B
Yeah. I've never been to Canada.
Speaker A
Are you kidding?
Speaker B
I've been to all seven continents. I have never been to Canada.
Speaker A
Do you. You're going to have a tough time plan on a day to get out of the airport. You heard what happened. I mean, the last two times I've been to Canada, I was detained.
Speaker B
Yeah. Why?
Speaker A
Both times they were like, whoops, sorry, and just let me go. But two times ago, I was down in the. In the holding area and they did not take my phone. They just told me not to use it and listen to what anybody tells me. So I immediately got on to Twitter and said, there has to be someone who works in the. Where was I? Montreal.
Speaker B
Were you in Toronto?
Speaker A
Toronto? Who works in the Toronto airport that can come down here? I'm being held in a room and no one's telling me anything. And literally, like an hour later, there's a knock on the door and income someone, and the whole thing straightened out. And I said, oh, my God, thank you so much. She goes, well, I got your message. So it was a. I was looking for a fan who worked for the Canadian government in customs and immigration.
Speaker B
That's crazy. So you don't know why?
Speaker A
Well, it has to do. I believe with the last time I exited Canada, there was like, the wrong visa was used. There was some kind of typo or snafu. So then when I tried to enter the country, I was on some, like, list.
Speaker B
Double secret probation.
Speaker A
Yeah. And I got. I went to a room where there's. That's where the. A lot of the illegal immigrants plead their case. And there's like 20 people online. There's only three officers, and you wait forever. So I did that. So that took me, like, four hours. And then when I went to plead my case, they said, hold on one second. And then someone comes out of another room and escorts me down into a windowless room with a desk. So once I was there, I'm like, all right, I'm. I'm gonna. I need to throw out the card. But, you know, my stepdad, like, I have Canadian family. I feel like I'm 25% Canadian, 35%, because we're on the border. So I'll throw in 10%.
Speaker B
Minnesota.
Speaker A
Living in Minnesota, almost Canada. And I'm just. They are, like, so, like, hardcore in Canada. I mean, it's. It's a mind boggler how hardcore they are about coming into their country. Whereas walking into Mexico, you literally can go from American to Mexico and no one will Check any paperwork on you at all.
Speaker B
Right. Well, Jordan, you know, chicken Caesar salad. Jordan. My friend Jordan Hussney told me I should go. Montreal should be my first spot in Canada.
Speaker A
Depends when you go, but yes, one of my favorite cities in the world.
Speaker B
Yeah, I'd really like to go there.
Speaker A
Vancouver.
Speaker B
Oh, good too, huh?
Speaker A
Yeah, pretty ridiculously awesome. And quite frankly, on the far east coast, Prince Edward Island, Newfoundland, you know, Halifax, Nova Scotia. That whole side is like ancient east coast seafaring communities on steroids. I mean, you would just.
Speaker B
I got a buddy there, toe curl.
Speaker A
It's so awesome.
Speaker B
All right, maybe you say buddy.
Speaker A
Do you mean ex boyfriend?
Speaker B
No, no, it's my friend Pete. He's like a 60 some year old sailor and farmer.
Speaker A
Okay. Does Josh let you talk to ex boyfriends?
Speaker B
Honestly? Yeah. Not really.
Speaker A
Okay.
Speaker B
Although to be fair, there's not really many I want to talk to.
Speaker A
No, no, I'm not saying that you do or would. It's just like once you get married, it's like. Okay. You don't talk to.
Speaker B
No, he's. He. I would say he has a bit of a. You know, he's pretty low key and stuff, but he's pretty jealous.
Speaker A
Yeah, no, I'm. I totally get that from him and I. And I agree with him. I respect that.
Speaker B
Are you that way? No, I didn't really think so, but.
Speaker A
I just, you know, whatevs.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker A
But I'm pretty loosey goosey about that kind of stuff.
Speaker B
Yeah, the cat man, not so much.
Speaker A
Not so much. But you made it home safe and sound. What meat did you bring?
Speaker B
Oh, we got bison sausage from the farmer's market there, which was actually very good. I was a little skeptical. And then Josh's aunt has. Well, she had a grass fed beef farm, so she. What? She's moving from right now, but we had some of her stuff too.
Speaker A
That's fantastic.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
And what did you bring in? What to taste. Did you bring us treats?
Speaker B
I already ate everything.
Speaker A
Did you get some great cheese at the market? That was your plan?
Speaker B
Yeah, we did. And you know what else we got? Have you had. I'm sure you have had chaga tea.
Speaker A
Yes.
Speaker B
Okay. We got some of that too at the farmer's market and it was awesome.
Speaker A
Do you like it with the mushroom, Right?
Speaker B
Yeah, it's mushroom tea. Which sounds disgusting.
Speaker A
No, it's good.
Speaker B
Was so good. It's the stuff we added orange and ginger and I don't know, who knows what else.
Speaker A
And the week so far has been good to you?
Speaker B
Yeah, it's Been awesome.
Speaker A
All right. It's. I mean, yeah. Hate to say it, world, but if every day was like this in Minnesota, the world would live here.
Speaker B
Exactly.
Speaker A
74 degrees, no humidity, Everything's greened up. It's. It's absolutely stunning. I had about a million people said to say hi to you. Oh, list them all.
Speaker B
Great. Do it.
Speaker A
As I said, I cannot list.
Speaker B
Oh, you cannot? I thought you said you could list.
Speaker A
Them all, but all of your friend. You know, we were in New York. Well, I. Since I saw you, I was in New York, then Austin, Austin, Chicago. Chicago's this week I was in cities. New York, Austin, Minneapolis. I mean like even like Friday I was in New York. Saturday I was in Austin. Sunday I was home. It was crazy.
Speaker B
Yeah, it sounds.
Speaker A
Yeah. But it was a lot of fun. Which, which would you rather hear about? Would you. Would you like to hear about the crushing disappointment and loss at the James Beard Awards?
Speaker B
I already read about it online.
Speaker A
Would you rather hear. Would you rather hear about my half naked kitchen demo with Graham Elliott Bowles? We were both in wrestling outfits and I hired a stripper slash cam girl to be my ring accomplice.
Speaker B
Is it the one I know?
Speaker A
No. Isn't it interesting that when I go to Austin, Texas and I say stripper class slash cam girl, your question to me is which one? The one you introduced me to. The answer is no.
Speaker B
Well, I kind of feel like you did. Maybe just tell me about that. But how'd it go?
Speaker A
It was amazing. It was amazing. I'm not sure that we did anything else but horrify people, but they will never forget. It may have been the most over the top food demo in the history of food and wine festivals in America. We cleared out the wall between the two main auditoriums, outdoor auditoriums, put up audio, visual stuff, split screen and split microphones so that we could talk to each other's audience. We both dressed up in real wrestlers outfits. I had gold.
Speaker B
Wait, were you guys cooking together?
Speaker A
No, on two side by side stages doing a mystery basket challenge.
Speaker B
Oh, okay.
Speaker A
He dressed as Hulk Hogan.
Speaker B
Yeah, I saw that. I like, I like the classic kind of wrestler stuff.
Speaker A
I was a luchador, ciampa vaca. My mythic creature that I like to be when I'm a pro wrestler, luchador and, and it was insane. But I have a cape that I wore in. Yes, a gold lame cape. And in the 60s, 70s, 80s, they had these like sort of bimbo types who would come in with the wrestlers and take their cape off and fold it up and kind of be there sort of second in the ring. So I had a meeting here a couple months ago with the. The staff and said we need to find. And I described the whole thing and kind of, you know, bosomy and strippery and, you know, blah, blah, blah. And they said, great, we'll talk to C3 the people produce the event and the people at Baltz and figure out we'll get someone to dress up like that. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. It has to be a real person because otherwise they're not going to know how to go. Go dance or. Oh, my God, whatever.
Speaker B
I'm so glad it was not there. Beth is like, curled up in the fetal position in the corner.
Speaker A
Your shoulders are scrunched. But the. It was. It was mind boggling. We had a great demo. Graham was fantastic, of course. And I mean, we were slamming chairs. We were running into each other's kitchens. We, I mean, go on my Instagram or something. We have some crazy pictures. I'll give Beth a couple extras to post online for us.
Speaker B
Was there any. Any cool moves? Any figure four holds?
Speaker A
Neither one of us got hurt, which was good.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker A
But, yeah, it was a lot of fun. I gave him eel. He gave me rattlesnake.
Speaker B
What'd you make?
Speaker A
I did a crisp rattlesnake slayuda.
Speaker B
Okay. With a. Oh, is that that flat, like, Mexican thing? Kind of like.
Speaker A
I caramelized onions and I boiled the rattlesnake, then pulled the meat, then caramelized it with onions and cilantro and little bit of cinnamon and some stuff. Put it on. I made a homemade slayer right then and there.
Speaker B
So that's. And just so people know, it's kind of like a. It's a tortilla ish thing. Kind of like a crispy.
Speaker A
It can get crispy or stay as soft as you want it to, but it's kind of like a slightly thicker tortilla.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker A
Not as thick as a sope, but slightly thicker tortilla and oval shape. And then I put. I did a avocado salsa with it. And. And I made a pickled nopali and strawberry sort of crispy vegetable thing. Sweet sour to go on it too.
Speaker B
Cactus thing.
Speaker A
It was good.
Speaker B
Yeah, sounds good.
Speaker A
It was really good. Graham did. I gave him eel. He did a seared eel over a potato thing with a chorizo vinaigrette and.
Speaker B
Doritos smash on top of it.
Speaker A
I mean, man, we had so much fun. It was sick, sick fun. But by the end of it, both of us were half naked.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
It was hysterical. People were freaking out. I mean, it was like a riot was gonna break out. People were having so much fun. We're cranking loud music, and people were getting into the theatricality of the whole thing. And I felt really bad for Paul Key. I was in the third because we had suggested them that they schedule it so no one else was. Because our crowd, we knew, was gonna be rowdy.
Speaker B
And it's like, what time is it?
Speaker A
600. 4 o'. Clock.
Speaker B
Oh, so everyone's drunk, hot day, hammered.
Speaker A
600 people in my room. 600 people in his room. No wall between the two. And they did not know. All it was was billed as Andrew Zimmerman, Graham Elliot, Mystery Basket. So we came out through a walkway in the middle to theme music in our wrestling Personas, and people were flipping out, and Paul was trying to do a serious, like, demo, like, 100ft away. And it was. I just felt terrible. He's. I spoke to him, though, later that night at the party, and he was. He's opening, like, 17 new things in Austin and is he. Things are going amazingly well for him.
Speaker B
Yeah. So he's, you know, he's winning at life.
Speaker A
He is winning it, like. Well, Paul Key is a real chef. He didn't have to stoop to the theatricality that. I felt bad because I dragged Graham into that, because Graham is actually a real chef too.
Speaker B
Right.
Speaker A
You know me, I'm less sure about the.
Speaker B
Graham's kind of. He's.
Speaker A
He's up for anything.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
We came up with the idea together. It took us a year to find someone who would give us permission to execute. And I don't think anyone will let us do it again. But it was. It was an awful lot of fun. A lot of fun. And in my category at the James Beard Award, I lost twice. Oh. Which is impossible to do unless you're me. I, um. It was. It was a lovely award ceremony. They, you know, fantastic people won fantastic awards. Everyone who was nominated was deserving. It was a great night, great food. Just a lovely, lovely evening for the Broadcast and Journalism Awards. This coming Monday is the Restaurant and Chef Awards. So my category is Vivian Howard, Tony Bourdain and me. Right. So I figured it's about time someone new, like, wins this thing, you know? And here was someone nominated for the first time who's actually deserving in past years.
Speaker B
Wait, and you show. You mean who?
Speaker A
Vivian Howard. The Southern food thing that she.
Speaker B
Gotcha.
Speaker A
Yes. Because here's the thing. In past years, either for show or for host, personality, whatever the category is. There's some names in there that are, like, they're just nowhere near. They're not even approaching the top four or five shows or people who do this. And it just, like, it's irritating to me. But Vivian, I thought, you know, she's the perfect kind of person to win the award. She's a young person, I think is really doing great things, so. Or new talent doing great things. And Tony won very deservedly because Chef is a great show.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
But in the personality category, Ina Garten, one. Okay. Now, we all know my uncle Richard Zimmern, who founded the Stanford Pediatric Hospital, who was a very famous pediatrician. He pulled Ina Garten from her mother's vajayjay.
Speaker B
Oh, yes.
Speaker A
Discussed that before on this show.
Speaker B
Yes, we have.
Speaker A
And so that's my connection to Ina. Plus, I was living in East Hampton when, uh, she was catering and opened Barefoot Contessa. And I mean, I've known this woman for 30 years. I respect the crap out of her. She is an amazing, amazing legend in my business. No one has ever said that she's a force of nature when it comes to personality.
Speaker B
Right.
Speaker A
And her show is designed. It's, you know, like Martha's show. It's quieter and beautifully shot. And you kind of just fall into this. Into her kitchen in the trance of her kitchen. I was like. When they read her name out, I was like, oh. Because again, I thought Vivian would win it. She was now in that category, too. So I'm sitting there clapping for Ina, and she wasn't there to collect the award. So the voice of God then says the 24 words I've never wanted to hear, which is, Ina Garten is winning this award for the second time now, making her the second person to be. Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
And I had been introduced before as the only person to have won the personality twice. So I was like, everything. Neither did I lose. But in a. In a real blow to my fragile ego, I was told that I am now no longer the only person to have won that award twice.
Speaker B
Well, see, now, here's the thing. I get that it's.
Speaker A
It's crushed. So now I'm really. I am pushing for Zimmern in 2016. The campaign starts now.
Speaker B
I'll put the sign in my yard. I just, you know, but I think, you know, Personality.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
Just because she's not really outgoing and boisterous, whatever, doesn't mean that she doesn't have one or isn't one no, not at all.
Speaker A
If I was the producer of that show, do you know what I would be telling her right now? I would. I would. I would be at one of her parties. I would. You know, at the right moment, when she's just had one extra glass of champagne, I would grab her by the shoulders, turn her into a mirror, like Stuart Smalley. And I would say, ina, this is who the world wants to see. Because when she's casual and just talking, she's funny, she speaks a little faster. She's. It's just like on tv. She's a muted more. I think I would like to see. If I was producing her, I would say I want to see the real her.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
But I feel that way about a lot of talent on television.
Speaker B
You know what's funny about.
Speaker A
I just want to see them be them. So don't pretend to be funny or pretend to be smarter. Pretend to be clever or.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
Or do FM tremolo in your voice. I mean, it's just like, come on.
Speaker B
So sort of a weird segue. This past week, I recorded the hey Eleanor podcast all by myself. So it was me doing what we're doing now, except for alone. And when I went back and listened to it, it's fine. It's fine. But it's so not as good as when I'm talking to somebody else. And it's sort of. It was kind of alarming.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
But I was just doing a little intro thing so people would know what I wanting to talk about, so. Yeah, but, yeah, it's. I think it's kind of hard, sort of depending on the setting, you know, how you act and what you say and what you're like. I'm way better having a conversation with someone than just talking by myself.
Speaker A
So we're 99.9% of the people. Unless you're creating a fictional world or writing something that you're then reading.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker A
Because there's a lot of people who do stuff on their own. It takes a massive amount. Amount of work.
Speaker B
Yeah, well, I was. The whole time I was talking like, I should have written this down. But then you don't want to sound like you're reading either.
Speaker A
Correct.
Speaker B
But that's.
Speaker A
But that's why they. Those other people do what they do.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
Do you know what I'm saying? They already came to it as writers creating a fictional world or a piece of content that they're trying. You know, it's like they never think that. It's like alcoholics. People aren't alcoholics. Never say Wow. I. Maybe I ought to stop. Like, that's a thought that never occurs to annoy me.
Speaker B
Really?
Speaker A
Yeah. Oh, and that's different. Yeah, Than wow, remind me not to have three margaritas again.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker A
I'm just talking about the. I. I may need to not drink or something. There's. But it's. I mean, you get what I'm saying.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
It's like that's why those other people do what they do.
Speaker B
Right?
Speaker A
You know, it's okay to be interactive. Big plans this weekend.
Speaker B
I'm going camping.
Speaker A
Where?
Speaker B
Interstate Park.
Speaker A
Fantastic.
Speaker B
I don't even really know where it is. Is that by Taylor's Falls?
Speaker A
I believe so, yeah.
Speaker B
I don't know. I don't know. But we just got a new tent and I got a new sleeping bag and I'm real excited about it.
Speaker A
Fantastic.
Speaker B
How about you? I bet you're doing something cooler.
Speaker A
No, I'm. It's. Friday night's an event at Noah's school. Saturday night. Well, Saturday night is the PACER gala.
Speaker B
Oh, right.
Speaker A
And my wife is on the gala committee and donates a lot of her time to pacer, which helps families with children in need, special needs kids. And so we do a lot of work for them. And so I was just going to be a good spouse because it's my wife's deal.
Speaker B
You're going to be. You're going to trade spaces. Places.
Speaker A
Correct.
Speaker B
Trading.
Speaker A
But I found out. I found out they always have some big talent that comes in. Like last year was Diana Ross and the year before was Jay Leno and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This year, Crosby, Stills and Nash.
Speaker B
Ooh, gosh, don't you wish you could just smoke pot for that one night?
Speaker A
Oh, no, I am smoking pot.
Speaker B
That's so right up your alley.
Speaker A
The last time. I have not seen them in sobriety, and I've probably seen them and CSNY, I don't know, 20 times.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
So the last time I saw them, I may have been. No, I actually, I was hallucinating on chemicals. But it is so exciting. So exciting. I cannot wait.
Speaker B
You're going to geek out.
Speaker A
I am going to totally geek out. And my wife has already given me. I was playing CSN in the kitchen the other day. I may have been in my underwear. I may or may not have been playing air guitar and I was in my underwear playing air guitar. And she was just looked at me and was just like, are you going to do that when we're sitting with all my friends? And she didn't refer to the underwear thing. She knows I'm wearing a nice suit, but like the whole, like, I know every word. I'm gonna get up and do my Andrew Zimmern version of the Tom Weiss hippie dance.
Speaker B
I was just thinking about the Tom Weiss hippie dance.
Speaker A
Yeah. Where I'm just gonna let it. Let my freak flag fly.
Speaker B
Oh, gosh. We did talk about the Tom Wes hippie dance, but real quickly, at one of your events in New York, Andrew's lawyer was backstage.
Speaker A
He's the guy who's the smartest man in the room, but he. He's been to too many dead shows or something.
Speaker B
Yeah, he was. He was dancing and he does that dance for.
Speaker A
For anyone who's been at a. At a good concert or festival. He's the guy just spinning with his arms out, sort of doing his own kind of dance to a slightly different rhythm than what the band is playing in. But just let just inspiration.
Speaker B
Oni's like made of rubber. Yeah.
Speaker A
It's like a combination of like. Is he dancing? Is he doing hacky solo? Hacky sack.
Speaker B
Yeah. It's weird.
Speaker A
Is it a yoga thing? Is it a yoga lotties dance?
Speaker B
Or is it hula hooping kinda too.
Speaker A
Yeah, you do that thing and you turn your shoulders in, you're wiggling your hips, and you're kind of going up and down.
Speaker B
Yeah. And you have. Your joints are made.
Speaker A
Was he just shot? Was he just shot? You know, it's like a combination of all those things that dance.
Speaker B
But the best part was that some. The security people came up to us and were like, do we need to escort that man out of here?
Speaker A
Well, that was at the train concert where he was in our little cordoned area and they were like, this man can't be with them. We were having a good time.
Speaker B
And in fact, he was with us.
Speaker A
Yeah, he was in charge of us. I think we have a. Oh, and the beard awards Monday.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker A
Along with the 10th anniversary of Alinea.
Speaker B
Oh, I know. Let's make a birthday cake out of one balloon.
Speaker A
Do you know what? It's funny because I have their opening menu in my kitchen.
Speaker B
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Speaker A
Yes. And that was the meal I took a friend of mine two and three days later. I was trying to also do a good thing, but by sort of trying to tell him life could be fun. And like, three days later, he OD'd and died. Oh, really?
Speaker B
Wow. This is.
Speaker A
I keep it up. There is a good reminder that I'm very lucky.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
All kidding aside, I take things like sobriety very Seriously?
Speaker B
Yes. You do.
Speaker A
Uh, how do we segue from there? No, it's, you know, it's fine. Alcoholism, chemical dependency and mental illness, and they are all interrelated, affect every single person in America with a relative, a colleague in the workplace or whatever. And Homaro Cantu, you know, a good friend of mine and, you know, and, you know, co worker of Graham. Graham was really close to him and, you know, Chicago chef who hung himself two weeks ago. I mean, it's just really, really sad. And mental health issues, alcoholism, drug addiction have stigmas attached to them, just like hunger does. That prevents people from talking about it and saying, hey, this is a problem for me. I'm not making light of other more serious conventional diseases, but when someone has cancer, everyone rallies around them and they're like, oh, my God, I have cancer. You know, oh my God, I have a toothache. Oh my God, I'm, you know, I have. Whatever. People are so afraid to talk about these things. And you, and you can, and you can go into the phone book. If you have a problem with drugs or alcohol, you can call NA or AA or any local hospital. There's national mental health helplines that are available 247 staffed by amazing people. If you're suffering from something, please tell someone. Just tell one person. Pick one person and tell them. Keep it simple, right? Pick one person and tell them. Do you want to read aloud Brenna's listener question? Because it kind of fits in with your whole go away every weekend with your husband to try to get pregnant lifestyle that's going down the spring.
Speaker B
No.
Speaker A
Oh, I see it for what it is.
Speaker B
I don't understand how this question relates to that at all.
Speaker A
Because you were just in Vermont on one of your booty call weekends and came back with a cow, right? Go ahead, read the question.
Speaker B
Okay. My husband and I bought a quarter of a cow this year and being adventurous, requested the organ meats. Side note, I also did that last summer. Despite following a good recipe for kidney with red wine mushroom sauce. It's going to take a lot to get us to cook the second kidney. And thank goodness we had a backup meal. People aren't kidding when they say it has pneumonia aftertaste. Is there any good way to truly get rid of. Of the ammonia flavor?
Speaker A
Yes. Would you like to know what the answer is?
Speaker B
No, of course I would like to know.
Speaker A
You may not care.
Speaker B
No, I care.
Speaker A
Throw it in the garbage. Oh, here's the thing. A fresh. It is a freshness issue. And I would. I mean, obviously, if you have if you know who this person is, the farmer or abattoir meat service or farmer's market vendor, whatever it is, you should go back to them because the whole beauty of buying directly from farm is that the animal is processed right away. That kidney should smell better than the, than the conventional cuts do of the mussels, you know, the steaks because it has a different kind of fat. It should smell clean and like. It should smell like a mixed different like the bastard son of a potato and celery.
Speaker B
Interesting.
Speaker A
It, it should not taste ammoniated or smell ammoniated or have any off qualities at all. In fact the typical kind of quote unquote organy flavor associated with liver and kidney is non existent in the hyper fresh versions fresh or frozen.
Speaker B
Which probably explains why I like some liver. Absolutely don't like others.
Speaker A
Absolutely. I mean people always say to me oh my God, how can you eat that liver raw? Or you just seared it rare. In the show it's like yeah, I also just shot the deer, pulled it out of the animal and that is. There's nothing, there's nothing cleaner or better tasting organ meat. I mean know how you can age meat when it's hung by, you know, beef. They're, they're now long term 120, 180 days. They don't do that with livers and kidneys for a reason. Or testicles, you know those things or lungs. The fresher the better. And every day increases this sort of like funky flavor and after a couple days you get a funky aroma and it just. That's why freshness counts with well what about, what about.
Speaker B
Can you freeze it right away?
Speaker A
Yes. And these 99% of the take a quarter cow stuff comes frozen because the farm harvests. I'll make it up 10 animals, they take it to a local processor, they process all the meat, then the meat is wrapped labeled frozen so then they can transport it and vend it properly. There's a couple of vendors at the farmers markets here who deal in fresh meat but they just bring a small amount of certain things or, or bring what's pre sold because their kill time processing time doesn't necessarily true up with the Saturday morning.
Speaker B
Right. Going to be at the market. That makes sense. Yes it does, but it shouldn't.
Speaker A
I mean, I mean there is no way that should taste off in any way.
Speaker B
So her problem, so she should go back to the farmer and say hey.
Speaker A
There'S nothing you can do to that other kidney because whoever sold you those kidneys sold you old product.
Speaker B
Ooh well, you know what happened with my quarter of a cow?
Speaker A
What happened to your quarter of a cow?
Speaker B
Well, we, we bought it from a family friend.
Speaker A
Yes.
Speaker B
And they just kind of have, I don't know, they just have cows sort of hobby. They're not like beef farmers.
Speaker A
Sure.
Speaker B
And it just, everything we got just kind of didn't taste right. And so I ended up talking to. Is it Tom Milan, the guy from the meat hook?
Speaker A
Myelin.
Speaker B
Mylan. Thank you. I don't know. I was like Moulin Rouge. I.
Speaker A
Now I'm remembering this.
Speaker B
Yeah. I was talking to him about it and he just said, wrong breed, probably the wrong breed of cow. So you have to be real careful. And that's a lot of meat to buy.
Speaker A
And this is why I'm always talking to people about. We sometimes get into deal love with the whole thing. Like I'm going to do a CSA and you don't think like, what happens when 40 pounds of kohlrabi shows up? And it's the same thing with farmer's market. I see people all the time because I'm waiting to get my, whatever, kidneys.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
And three ducks at the farmer's market. And the people in front of me, the husband, wife, are like, honey, should we, we should, shouldn't we? We, I mean, we've got the room in the freezer now and they're just like, look at the deal. It's. It comes out to like a 299 a pound and they're just willy nilly buying 300 worth of meat because the savings are so amazing. And then it's like, well, A, what are we going to do with all that? What are we going to do with all the cuts that we don't know how to cook? And B, have you tasted the meat from those people? Have you had a sample, you know, buy a piece and take it home?
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker A
Grab the person's card and then go call them. And I mean experiment with it.
Speaker B
That is really good advice because I learned the hard way.
Speaker A
Well, the other thing is grass fed.
Speaker B
Yeah. It tastes a little weird.
Speaker A
Well, some does.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
Some doesn't. If you have grass fed fresh beef, in other words, beef that's received no age at all, that's probably a product that unless you've been eating it for a while, you've never tasted before in your life.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker A
Because all the meat, even the supermarket is usually wet aged in cryovac and there's all kinds of different processes with cuts and how long it's hung and bled and all this other kind of stuff. I've had people at my house who have been like, oh, my God, it's amazing. I love steak. And have you ever had grass fed? And it's fresh and it's just a whole different flavor profile, you know, different times a year. The meat can taste radically different from the same breed, same farmer. So it's, you know, that's why I just stick to eating the intestines and balls. Consistency, consistency. If you would like to ask a question. We love listener questions.
Speaker B
What are we doing that? Are we having people call?
Speaker A
We'll figure it out.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker A
If you want to ask a question.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker A
We are going to put that. You can leave it on our listener hotline. The Go For Yourself hotline. 6122-464448-22464-582. Now, let me explain what Molly.
Speaker B
Yeah. Sorry I, like, ruined your flow.
Speaker A
No, no, no. I was. I was going to save it for the end, but you. You brought it up. We are taking a short break, a hiatus, due to some scheduling issues and some different things we're doing. Molly's trying to get pregnant and apparently being so close to the recording equipment, and her midwife is very concerned about it, and the Wiccan group that she's a part of is also. We're just going to try to let that happen.
Speaker B
Okay?
Speaker A
Just be traveling a lot.
Speaker B
That's not true. That's not. None of that. No, that is true. What you said before isn't true.
Speaker A
Do you remember Vice President Dick Cheney?
Speaker B
Sure.
Speaker A
He said there were things going on in Iraq that weren't true, but now they're part of American history. He lied and everyone believed him because he was vice president. On our podcast, if I say something, isn't it kind of true?
Speaker B
No, I don't think so.
Speaker A
All right. That's not what Josh says. And we have Beth at Producer Beth Gibbs, extraordinaire at bethk Gibbs is leaving us.
Speaker B
She is?
Speaker A
Yes. Which is really good for her. It is really good for her.
Speaker B
Sad for us.
Speaker A
It's very sad for us. But she's an incredibly talented, wonderful human being who has made our lives. Did she just pot us down? Did she just put me down? Am I on? Am I on?
Speaker B
Oh, God, no.
Speaker A
That's so Beth to do like. I don't want to hear this. I'm just going to turn his mic off. Yes. But we love her very much, but she has to go spread her wings and fly in her direction. So, A, a little bit of travel, B, focusing on her stuff. Your performance stuff and trying to figure out what she wants to do. Ethkgibbs has the skill set far exceeding her years on this planet.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker A
Yes. She's 14 and work release at juvie says it's time for her to go back into inmate population. No. So we will miss her very, very much. So what we're doing is we're. Because of all the confluence of all three of those things, we are taking a short hiatus and we don't know.
Speaker B
How long that will be necessarily.
Speaker A
But no longer than four weeks.
Speaker B
Well, Andrew's a liar, so we don't know.
Speaker A
No, it is going to be no longer than four weeks.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker A
You know, we just. What? We're trying to take the opportunity to make a new and improved product.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
So while we're doing that and someone has to come in and do the time and we've got to do a mock one and they have to produce it. And, you know, so it's like with the travel schedule and everything, you know, we figure we'll be back up and running end of May.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker A
That's my. That's my thinking.
Speaker B
Right.
Speaker A
And I padded it by a week and a half. So we may be on it. But I want to promise that because.
Speaker B
Don't promise I'm a liar. Because you are a liar.
Speaker A
But I am. It is going to be. We are going to be back.
Speaker B
I feel like your calendar is fluid. Always sort of. It's like there aren't dates. There's just kind of time frames.
Speaker A
I like the way you think about that.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
But yes. So anyway, we love Beth dearly. And what episode number is this? 156. 156 episodes. You couldn't have held on for four more and gone out at 160 or left six weeks ago at 150. You should have left six weeks ago at 150 and it could have been your sesquicentennial episode, which kind of sounds.
Speaker B
Like Sasquatch just pointing it out.
Speaker A
All right, I'll go with that. If you like the podcast, subscribe rate, leave a review on itunes. It helps more people find the show. We will have, obviously, a placeholder. You don't need to reach out and call your friends about the hiatus. We're letting everybody know. For more information on where I'll be this month, appearances on andrew zimmern.com. i know I'm going to be in Aspen in June.
Speaker B
You're going to be a lot of cool places.
Speaker A
I am like Philly.
Speaker B
Hey, good Sandwich town.
Speaker A
Unbelievable. I am so here's the deal. There's certain places that I never get to that I love to eat in. Philly is probably one of those places I never get to and cannot wait to get together. I mean, John's roast pork.
Speaker B
I want to. I've never been here.
Speaker A
End of discussion. Philly.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
Just say in the summertime. It's for one of your little pregnancy weekends. You could go there with Josh because it is a fun town. It's on the water, but not really on the water, but you can drive an hour outside of this. It's just. It's a wonderful town in summer.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker A
Really, really cool. We're on Facebook and Twitter, Molly. Tell them where they can find us.
Speaker B
Sure. You can find us on Twitter @GFY podcast and on Facebook@Facebook.com Go Fork Yourself podcast. I can always have to look to read what that is.
Speaker A
Correct.
Speaker B
Oh, and you can stay up to date with Beth on her podcast, Totes Recall. Totes Recall, which we listen to on our drive. We listen to the Tokyo Drift episode.
Speaker A
She's now. Beth is. Beth is now. This is her last episode, and I've already said the kind words, so she's dead to me. Oh, I can't even look over in her direction.
Speaker B
Yeah. And totes.
Speaker A
Totes Recall.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker A
Look forward on itunes.
Speaker B
Yep. And you'll be hopefully. I'm hoping by tomorrow. Ish. That the hey Eleanor podcast will be and running as well. Find that on with Molly's intro. With my intro, you guys. Giggity. It's gonna be awkward.
Speaker A
That's what listener feedback is for.
Speaker B
I know.
Speaker A
That's what those pesky. Leave a review on itunes.
Speaker B
That's what we're all about. I know. Me and my vocal fry.
Speaker A
All right. Go fork yourself.
Speaker B
You too. This has been a Foodworks Inc. Production executive producer, Beth Gibbs, hosted by Andrew Zimmern and Molly Mogren. Music by Andy Mogren. For more information, visit andrew zimmern.com.