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Is #Quran Apaurusheya? : Hindu refutation of this false Muslim belief
In this episode, we explore the Hindu refutation of the Islamic belief that the Quran is 'Aporusheya' or uncreated. The discussion highlights the differences between the Vedas and the Quran,...
Is #Quran Apaurusheya? : Hindu refutation of this false Muslim belief
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Jai Shikrishna friends and welcome to podcast of Hindu Media Viki.
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So today's topic of discussion is how do Hindus refute the Muslim belief that Quran is
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up-or-usher?
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So we will go through the definition of up-or-usher.
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We will look at why Muslims think that Quran is up-or-usher and why it is not true.
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So let's get started.
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So just like how Hindus believe the Vedas are up-or-usher, Muslim also think that their
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Quran is up-or-usher.
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This is a traditional belief from Islam which you can see on screen.
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In fact, Muslim used to punish and kill people who thought that the Quran was created by God.
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And so Muslims strongly believe and continue to believe that Quran is up-or-usher.
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If the Quran is truly up-or-usher, then this means that Hindus have to accept the Quran
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as a valid Pramana because it stands on the same footing as Vedas.
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But now we will look at the Hindu refutation of this Muslim belief.
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So as this question is framed, first of all I don't see why Hinduism needs to refute
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Islamic belief about its own scripture because none of the Hinduism's tenets are affected
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by Islam's tenets.
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The question of refutations comes when two or more opposing parties are contending the
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same issue such as Advaitas, Vishishtra Advaitas or Devetas all subscribe to the authority
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of Vedas, Brahmasutra and Gita but differing interpretation of the statement in these scriptures.
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The scriptures of Hinduism and Islam are mutually exclusive.
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So logically speaking refutation does not make any sense.
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However, from universal point of view of comparative logic, we have trapped ourselves in a situation
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from which we cannot come out.
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We have started with a definition of Uparashya which anyone can claim for any scripture
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and which will liberate them from any burden of evidence.
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So no refutation is possible on any ground.
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Equally from this universal logical point of view, no scripture can claim to be uncreated
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or Uparashya in a little form.
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Because language is a human invention and hence an scripture which is a fixed collection of
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words is a human invention in space and time. So every scripture can be get it and located.
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So what is valid definition of Uparashya?
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In this case, if we examine the Vedas and allow it to scripture themself rather than
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to towing around them and blindly engaging in superstitious myth making, then we will be in a
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complete victorious position. Here are some examples of the words in Vedas themselves.
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Rigveda. I am a maker of mantras. My father is a doctor. My mother is a floor maker.
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For him, I designed this hive just as a carpenter design a carrier.
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How shall we offer to Agni? What kind of world should we say to him? The bright one.
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Which will be divinely acceptable.
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This totra we make for the most cared jatveda with deep meditation just like building a
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chariot. I offer this newest and most expensive ritual and words to the son of strength.
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Thus we, Gratzmadhas have designed these words for you, or Indra, just as a pathfinder makes path.
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There are hundreds of such statements in Rigveda mantras. The
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recesis is very conscious of making this extraordinary effort to which skill and meditation,
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to create or design a beautiful hive to offer to the deity. And they won't the deity to know
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that the hive is coming from them as a gift. This shows that the ancient tradition
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knew the Vedas, not as a monolithic golden book dropped from heaven or from God's mouth,
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or existing uncreated in a literal sense.
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Now, this introduces a more authentic and verifiable definition of aporysia.
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The focus is on the eternal truth, that is aporysia. Note the word or text, but the eternal truth
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that they are conveying. The races who experience the truth are teaching others the same truth
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through the Vedas, so the others may experience the same truth. The Vedas are unique because this
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is a divine vision. Through intense tapas, they have become enlightened, they have achieved
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Brahma-saksat-karak, meaning realization of ultimate reality or truth. This enlightenment occurs
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at a level beyond the mind and speech, where the races lose their individuality and experience
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the highest satchida nanda, meaning absolute existence, consciousness and bliss.
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When the races come down from this elevated spiritual state, they try to express their experience
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or vision in human language, so the vision is divine and the words are theirs. But even the words
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are so unique and inimitable, the races personally is also unique. All this seen in Rigveda itself,
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also the divine vision and expression of it in human language are a different level of speech.
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This is seen in Rigveda 1.164.45. 4 are the levels of speech which the wise people know.
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3 of them are hidden and do not stare, the 4th is what human speak.
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So, the Vedas are unique because they express the ultimate internal truth that anyone can experience.
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It is ultimate eternal truth that is aporosya. It is through expressing this aporosya truth that
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is available for everyone, that the Vedas are aporosya.
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So, why is this eternal truth is aporosya? Because it is independent of human relativity,
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it does not depend on a particular prophet, who is the only one who can access this.
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The Vedas are aporosya because they uniquely, among all other scriptures, express this aporosya truth.
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The Quran fails under all this about criteria. The Quran claims that only Muhammad is a God's
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prophet and no other human being can become prophet or connect with God.
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Claiming prophethood is a blasphemy in Islam. So, Quran's claim of authenticity is strictly
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dependent on the authenticity of Muhammad. So, Quran is strictly aporosya meaning strictly human
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dependent. So, if there is any fault or imperfection in Muhammad's character, then Quran's
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authority fails completely. Which is incidentally why Muslims are so defensive about Muhammad.
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However, the authority of Vedas is infallible because eternal truth, the express is not dependent
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on any specific human being. Anyone today can verify and confirm that the
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express the eternal truth thousands of years ago. Hence, the aporosya of Vedas is uphold.
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This is the only perspective from which you can refute the infallibility of Quran and uphold the
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infallibility of Vedas. Thank you for listening to this. I hope this thing is clear for you
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and for any action that discusses, the comment section is open for you. Thank you so much.