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Imagination's Limits
In this episode of 'Imagination's Limits,' Dr. Rosland Lear delves into the complexities of Khan Noonian Singh's character and the implications of genetic augmentation. As tensions...
Imagination's Limits
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Your Listening To Star Trek Con
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Episode 5 Imaginations Limits
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Computer, continue personal log for Dr. Rosland Lear.
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The new pieces added to this puzzle by the logs I retrieved on City Alpha 5 only confirm my belief that Khan was much more than a Matt tyrant.
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Determined to the point of obsession, passionate but strangely vulnerable.
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He didn't thrive on the adulation of his people, he was mission driven.
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And that mission at least initially was the construction of a new kind of human society.
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When he protected fiercely, even as he-
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Dr. Lear, please report to Captain Suvius quarters immediately.
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Immediately? He knows I don't actually work for him, right?
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Come.
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Captain Suvius.
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Dr. Lear, please have done.
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You summon me.
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And you don't like being summoned.
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I still have hundreds of hours of recordings to review before we depart the City Alpha system.
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And are you finding your recordings helpful in proving your hypothesis that you're not going to be able to prove your existence?
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Khan, Noonian Singh and his fellow augments were victims of Starfleet negligence.
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I seek only the truth.
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Do you believe that's where the evidence will lead?
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It's important in my line of work to keep an open mind.
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These are the census scans taken of the City Alpha system by the USS Enterprise on Star Day 3143.1.
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While they do indicate minor core instabilities on City Alpha 6, nothing in the analysis suggests that it was any word near,
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catastrophic destabilization.
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Who took these readings and performed the analysis?
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Our science officer, Mr. Spock.
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The Mr. Spock. His record as an officer is-
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Unimpeachable.
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Thank you. I will review them.
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You think Spock might have missed something?
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Someone did.
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Because the odds of that planet randomly exploding six months after these unimpeachable scans were taken are several billion to one.
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And you honestly believe it's possible that Jim Kirk would intentionally have sent 73 souls to face that kind of death?
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This is a part where you tell me that you served with him. You know him. He would never. But honestly, who would have blamed him?
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Ever since the Eugenics Wars and a genetic augmentation has been banned, descendants who share augment blood are monitored for any sign that their true nature might assert itself,
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you've damned an entire subset of people to diminish citizenship out of fear and ignorance.
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Khan's record both on Earth and beyond left little doubt that genetic augmentation brought out the worst in humanity.
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I face Conwons. I saw, first, and the merciless suffering you escapeable of inflicting. And I sleep very well and I know him that he will be forever remembered as the monster he was.
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Hmm.
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What is it you hope to achieve here? Khan and his people are dead.
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In my experience, monsters are made, not born. I'd like to better understand the recipe.
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A crucial ingredient is pain. Pain that is not processed is passed on and it is pain that creates monsters.
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If that is true, what is the responsibility of those who encounter suffering souls? Are we not required to help those who lack the tools to help themselves?
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In Khan's case, Captain Kirk provided him with an opportunity to seek within for his better angels.
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It is not Kirk's fault that Khan was unable or unwilling to heed them.
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Why do you suppose he never asked Starfleet to monitor Khan's progress on Cedya F5?
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Or never returned to see for himself what had become of the seeds he planted?
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Starfleet captains are forced to make difficult decisions in prioritizing their many responsibilities.
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Hmm. How convenient. Thank you for the scans.
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Doctor, it's a big universe and we've barely begun to explore the wonders it contains.
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The nice thing about always looking forward, Captain, it rarely leaves time to look back.
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It's ready. Go ahead.
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Since they walked.
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I'd start with something easy. Just dip your toes in the water. How about your first day of freedom?
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There are more interesting ways to use my toes.
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Thanks, Tom. This is for history.
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Oh, you're hopeless.
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Come on, Khan. Come quickly.
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Why?
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Why?
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My lord, hurry, both of you. Calm down, Paolo.
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This wasn't supposed to happen.
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What's going on?
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Cedya F6, it's exploded.
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Paolo, planets do not simply explode.
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I've set the magnification so you can see the whole thing.
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No. No.
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Khan?
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The entire planet? No. How is this possible?
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It shouldn't be. Not for thousands, maybe millions of years, but its core was unstable.
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It could have been impacted by something larger meteor or...
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Khan!
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What's happening?
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Khan? The sky?
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Look!
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There, on the horizon.
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What is that?
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A massive meteor shower pass.
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It's too big.
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It's not part of the planet. It's too soon for that.
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Then what is it?
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It's heading right for us.
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It's coming at us. Everyone get out!
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It missed us.
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Barely.
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That smoke on the horizon.
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That must be the impact site.
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How far is that?
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About 15 kilometers.
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Paolo, find Ivan and Ursula.
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Tell them to arm themselves and meet me at the gate.
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Yes, my lord.
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That wasn't a meteor.
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No.
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No, that was a vessel.
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I'm going with you.
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I will not inager you or our child.
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The sky is literally falling.
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I think that ship has sailed.
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We could be under attack.
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You don't know that.
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Have you ever made first contact with an alien species?
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Because I have.
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Who said anything about contact?
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Will you even know what you're looking at?
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At their are survivors, they'll be in advanced species.
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They just crashed on our planet how advanced could they be?
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Advanced enough to use some form of faster than light propulsion.
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How do you know this?
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We've only been here six months.
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If they were flying at sublight speeds,
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Enterprise would have seen them approaching when they scanned the system
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and either wouldn't have left us here or would have warned them away.
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Could they have destroyed setty alpha six?
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It takes more energy than most starships have to destroy an entire world.
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And why bother?
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It was an uninhabitable barren rock.
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Target practice?
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Much more likely, they were surveying the system and their ship was damaged by the explosion.
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Take care, my dear.
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While these suppositions might apply to you and your starfleet,
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we have no way of knowing who or what these creatures are.
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If they are advanced enough to travel the universe in warp capable ships,
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they might be able to help us.
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Why do we need that help?
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Because eventually, the broken pieces of setty alpha six are going to start raining down on us.
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And that is bad?
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Try apocalyptic.
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Within the next few years, Ivan,
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the entire surface of setty alpha five will be laid waste.
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From this moment on, we have but one purpose, survival.
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Dear Codds, that's the crash site.
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Three below us are all flutth.
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They were knocked down by the shock wave.
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You can tell by the radial pattern which they fell.
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Do you see that?
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At the center.
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Yes.
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As I said, the starship or what's left of one.
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Its debris field is two kilometers long and its hull is in over a dozen pieces.
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All of them unfold.
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My scanners picking up life signs.
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There are survivors down there.
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Binoculars?
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Thank you, my brother.
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I see at least a hundred, maybe more.
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Just as many dead.
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Do they carry weapons?
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Not that I can see.
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They have a human shape.
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But they're flesh is like pearls and they have silver.
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Metallic.
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They're awfully quiet.
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No screaming, no crying.
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Even from the injured.
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They're in shock.
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Codd, we should help them.
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They are number of at least two to one my life.
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You've wasted right now.
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Before they can regroup, we can easily take them.
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No. I can't believe I'm saying this, but Ivan has a point.
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I say we rally our people and attack.
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Do you hear yourselves?
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Starfleet encounters new species all the time
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and but for a handful most aren't hostile.
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But if we threaten them first.
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I did not mean threaten.
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I meant kill.
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What if they can help us?
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What if they have communication systems that can send a distress call to other ships or planets?
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Or shuttlecraft that were undamaged?
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These people could be our salvation.
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Their technology is now scattered across this plain in pieces.
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And who would we call for help?
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Starfleet?
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You said yourself that Captain Kirk has never returned to this planet.
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But if they knew what had happened.
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They knew.
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He astranded us on a dying world.
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Ivan, you will stay and observe.
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I will send you reinforcements.
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Keep out of sight and use our radios to advise me of any new developments.
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Yes, my lord.
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Paula, there you are.
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Did you hear?
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Aliens landed.
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Well, crashed, but some of them survived and it's...
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It doesn't matter, Yolakin.
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Calm and call the council meeting.
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I think we're going to war.
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Step outside and look at the sky.
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An entire planet just exploded.
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But we need to identify and track the pieces of the planet that are about to hit us.
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We need to estimate the impact sites.
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We need to know how long we have until this world becomes a ball of dust.
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What was that?
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Are we under attack?
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Are you even listening to me?
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The loss of Sidi Alpha 6's gravity is affecting our orbit around the system's main star.
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Quicks like that are going to become daily occurrences.
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Our tides will shift, as well as access to the sea's food sources.
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This is the what we need to worry about winning right now.
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But Khan said...
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It doesn't matter what Khan says.
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We're talking about the laws of physics.
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Even he can't bend those two as well.
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We don't need to kill these aliens.
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The planet is going to do it for us.
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I don't think that you know what he can't.
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Sidi Alpha 6!
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It is imperative that our numbers appear greater than they are.
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We will divide into squads of three,
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surround them and attack from multiple angles simultaneously.
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We have enough ammunition left to arm each squad with one automatic weapon.
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The others will carry swords and bases.
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We will fight hand-to-hand to the last man.
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Last I saw they were grouped at this point near the largest bit of wreckage.
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The fires were extinguished.
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I counted 289.
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Sir, a little more than 41 now.
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Did you ever hear them speak or shout or cry out?
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No, but we kept our distance.
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Have you considered the possibility that they could be telepathic?
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And many species with psionic abilities possess other formidable mental powers.
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We saw no weapons.
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They might not need them.
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Some telepaths could kill you where you stand with a thought.
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There is another option.
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Speak better.
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We could wait for them to come to us.
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By showing our numbers we are showing our weakness.
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Behind our walls there could be hundreds.
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They are weak now, my lord.
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They will grow stronger.
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Or they won't.
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We have no idea how the planet's atmosphere agrees with them.
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Things that are harmless to us might be toxic to them.
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I have an is right.
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We cannot wait.
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Assembled and armed squads.
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We will move into position in six hours and attack at first light.
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I will lead the first charge from the southernmost edge of the encampment.
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You will be done, my lord.
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An Ursula.
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Mado and I will set up a triage center off the medbay and prepare to treat the injured.
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Good. You have your orders, go.
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Yes, come on.
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Erica, I think you got him.
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How am I supposed to figure out how to do this in six hours, Joaquim?
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I was trained for botany.
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Not battle.
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Here.
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Let me help you.
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It's pretty simple.
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Game the pointy end at whatever you want to kill.
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And give it all you got.
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Here you go.
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I don't want to do this.
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I'm afraid.
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What if I die before I figure out what to name the yellow berries?
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Palos says that if the aliens don't kill us, the planet will.
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So maybe it doesn't matter so much.
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Palos just being...
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Palo?
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Well, if it makes you feel any better, I'm scared too.
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Trust in Khan, Erica.
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You will find a way.
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And wish me luck.
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It's my first real battle.
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Father, he never allowed me to.
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He still has cons played?
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Always.
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That's all the luck you need.
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And maybe this too.
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Why did you do that?
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So we both have something to look forward to.
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My lord, Palo wishes to speak with you.
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Enter.
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Well, go ahead.
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My lord, I have done some initial calculations.
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And I believe you should reconsider killing all the aliens.
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Do you?
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Yes, my lord.
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So far, I've counted 19 pieces of setty alpha six that will impact the planet in the next six months.
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The biggest two are each a little larger than a run.
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Do you know where they will hit?
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Doesn't matter.
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Debris will fill the atmosphere, blocking the sun.
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Our crops will die.
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Temperatures will drop.
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The surface will become uninhabitable.
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We'll go underground.
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Exactly.
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We should begin scouting now for cave systems large enough to hold us all, but that's not the real problem.
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Water, right.
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To drink.
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To maintain sanitary conditions.
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To grow hydroponic food sources.
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We'll find an underground source in damage.
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It'll have to be huge.
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And it will dry up eventually given that there won't be precipitation on the surface for decades.
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Maybe more.
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What does any of this have to do with the aliens?
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Ships like the one that just crashed require navigational rays and long range sensors.
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They'll have subsurface geological scans of the entire planet.
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Possibly.
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Thank you, Paolo.
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You've given me much to consider.
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So you're going to call up the battle?
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No.
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I'm going to assign a squad to capture a few of the aliens and if they have what we require.
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We will force them to give it to us.
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The rest must die.
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But okay, I suppose.
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We're done here, Paolo.
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Thank you, God.
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Your triage center is ready.
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Mona, I understand that you're afraid for us.
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And afraid for me.
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It may comfort you to know that I faced many ground assaults where the odds were against us and the outcome are noble,
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but each time I prevailed, I will do so again.
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This is what I was made for.
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Is it, or is it just the battle you think you know how to win?
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I have made my choice.
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That is the end of it.
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A little over 200 years ago, a lunatic scientist named Zeffrin Cochran took a weapon of war, a nuclear missile in fact,
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and turned it into a ship capable of flying faster than the speed of light.
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During his first test flight, a Vulcan survey ship happened to be passing by and when they saw that humans had achieved warp travel,
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they landed on Earth and made first contact.
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This was shortly after the end of the Third World War and most of Earth's people were living poverty-stricken, desperate lives.
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Cochran was a brilliant engineer, but he was also a realist.
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He built that ship because he hoped it would make him rich.
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Instead, he became a legend.
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Humanity's introduction to the reality that many intelligent species live and thrive among the stars ushered in a new era of peace and prosperity.
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It was from this one choice that the lives of countless billions were changed forever.
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Mala.
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I'm not afraid you're going to lose my love.
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I'm saddened by the limits of your imagination.
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Run!
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My brothers and sisters, we stand together tonight, united in purpose, strong of limb, courageous of heart and above all, determined.
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We did not choose this course.
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Fate has decided to test us.
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We will each seek within ourselves and go beyond what we believe to be our limits.
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We must pass this test.
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We must eliminate anything and anyone that stands between us and survival.
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We know this place well.
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The precipice of battle.
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We've been here before.
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And as we always have, we will do what must be done.
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Hours is the superior strength.
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Hours!
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Hours is the superior intellect.
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Hours!
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Hours is the victory to come.
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Hours!
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Hours!
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Ivan, I count close to 400 now, 396.
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As soon as the dawn breaks, I will give the order.
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Squads four through ten are to hold at the tree line until my lord, do you see this?
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They are moving into circles, each larger than the next.
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Down!
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Either they're here as a sharper than ours or someone's given away opposition.
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They face outward holding hands as if they are preparing to confront us.
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Who defend the ones within?
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But I still don't see any weapons.
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At least this way they won't be hard to pick off.
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Choose your first targets and prepare to break cover and open fire but keep your distance.
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Yes, my lord.
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Weapons ready?
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Yes, my lord.
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Hold until I give the command.
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I can serve that ammo.
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What is that sound?
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That hum?
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It's not mechanical, is it?
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Do you hear that?
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Stand ready.
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What is that?
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Who's making that sound?
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The mouths aren't moving.
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Alien treachery.
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Hold your positions.
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Do you feel it?
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You might.
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I feel it.
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You might.
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It's inside my brain.
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Oh my god!
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Son, you're awful!
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Oh my god!
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It's melted!
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Mine too!
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What's happening?
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My rifle!
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It's broken into!
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My lord, our weapons, the metal bends and breaks them.
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Mine as well.
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In matters not, the dawn has come.
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We will kill them with our bare hands.
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I will work, I will work!
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I don't leave the fans over here.
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Wait.
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But, John!
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It's a smile I said.
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They are telepaths and hardly unarmed.
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Even if they don't speak, they probably bleed.
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Ivan, hear me.
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Retreat.
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Collect our people and return to count.
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I will not abandon you.
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Do as I say.
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Oh my god!
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Look at this joyous!
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I will not die.
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Gowering the brush.
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I'm not afraid of you.
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It's you that should be happy.
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My lord, what are you doing?
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Using my imagination.
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But, John, if I fall, tell my beloved wife that we were both from.
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I...
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...have...
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...gone!
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Come, Elbond of I, I hear.
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I hear you in my head.
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You remind not the powers.
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But you understand my words.
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If you call the spell, the E is in time.
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Practice.
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You are Delmond.
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That is your name.
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Yes, of the Eliboria.
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You shall not harm us nor we, you.
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I have claimed this world for my people.
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You do not belong here.
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Our ship...
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...damaged...
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...entered system to make repairs.
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Sixth planet unstable.
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Your ship was caught up in the explosion.
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Lost orbital integrity.
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Where is Elboria?
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Many thousands like years.
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Two of our spans have joined.
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You cannot stay here.
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Neither can you.
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My people are my concern.
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You will take yours and leave this world.
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If that is your wish.
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That is my command.
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You do not trust his rule.
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Why should I trust you?
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Why should I believe anything you say?
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I will show you.
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What team? Look out.
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What team look out?
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Break them!
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Where have you been?
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I will show you.
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Your vital to refine your neurological activity is normal.
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I do not know why he is not awake.
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I do not want to risk his time.
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Can you hear me?
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Malau.
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Where am I?
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Your...
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...your home love.
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I will leave you to it.
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But don't keep me in suspense for long.
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I won't. Thank you.
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Take it easy.
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You have had quite a day.
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Now water.
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Your thirsty? I will get it.
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No.
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Water...
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...under the ground.
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What are you talking about?
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I saw it in my mind.
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He showed me.
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I know where it is.
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Where we must go.
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Who showed you?
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Del Monda.
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The Elborian.
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Elborian?
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I've never heard of them.
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Starfleet has never encountered them.
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You spoke with him.
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No.
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No, not exactly.
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I...
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...spoken.
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He answered in my mind.
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So they are telepaths.
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Del Monda wants us to survive.
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All of us.
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He told you that.
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No.
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But I know.
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Somehow I...
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...I just know.
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So what happens now?
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Gather the others.
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Ivan.
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The lights.
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Over here.
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Exactly as I saw it.
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Just where he said it was.
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It must be at least a hundred miles wide.
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And it's fresh water.
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It's so beautiful.
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Hanzanna-do did Kubla Khan.
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A stately, pleasure-dome decree.
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Where Alph, the sacred river ran.
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Through Cavern's measureless to man.
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Down.
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To a sunless sea.
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I can't reach.
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I would have thought of all the Romantics you would prefer words with.
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I had to memorize it as a student years ago.
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Then it was just words.
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Now.
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It's real.
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Well, Paolo.
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Will this do?
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Yes, my lord.
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It will.
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I am Khan.
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Ruler of Satiyal for five.
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The empire I would have built here will never be.
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And as if in answer to a prayer I never uttered.
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Hope is fallen from the sky.
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Do I dare trust it?
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In Dermondor's place with his powers.
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I would have destroyed us all and taken this sunless sea for my people.
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But he did not.
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Why?
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And if I refuse this generosity, what price will we pay?
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There is nothing to fear.
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And yet.
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And yet I do.
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God's help me.
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How can I help but fear that which I simply did not understand?
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produced by I podcast productions Inc.
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Secret Hideout and Roddenberry Entertainment.
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