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Hades 2 1.0 & Greek Mythology in Games
In this episode of Get Played, hosts Heather, Tiger, and Matt dive into the world of Greek mythology in video games, discussing the upcoming Hades 2 and the portrayal of gods and demigods across vario...
Hades 2 1.0 & Greek Mythology in Games
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Speaker A
This is a headgun podcast. Would be. Gods and demigods, welcome to Mount Olympus. State your name and your power and I shall deign whether or not thee is ready to ascend to Mount Olympus.
Speaker B
It is I, the God Claudus.
Speaker A
Claudis spake thee. What is your power?
Speaker B
I can look at sawdust and imagine what type of wood it came from. Claudus, the God of sawdust.
Speaker A
Claudus. Nay, you are not allowed on Mount Olympus.
Speaker B
Cast ye back to Hades.
Speaker A
Cast ye back to Hades.
Speaker B
It's hot down there.
Speaker A
Spake thy name and I shall tell you whether or not you are willing and able to ascend to Mount Olympus.
Speaker C
Tis I. Art Smeller.
Speaker A
Art smeller. Speak thee thy power and I shall choose whether or not to let you enter the gates of Mount Olympus.
Speaker C
I can smell a fart and guess the food that which produced the fart. No. Come on, come on.
Speaker A
Hades name.
Speaker C
Come on.
Speaker A
Also, it sounded like you were unsure about what your own power was.
Speaker C
No, I knew that wasn't the part.
Speaker A
I wasn't sure about. Back to Hades with me.
Speaker B
That would be God is not worth your time. Rather you should invite me up to Mount Olympus.
Speaker A
Speak thy name.
Speaker B
Why? It is I. Fallacious.
Speaker A
Fallacious. And what be thy power?
Speaker B
I am the God of enjoying getting my dick sucked. I love it. I think it's so fun. It's my favorite thing. And I am a God.
Speaker A
Palacius, you are worthy of Mount Olympus. Yay.
Speaker B
I know how I'm celebrating. We collect boons and flirt with horny deities as we discuss Hades 2.1.0 and Greek gods and games. This week on Get Played.
Speaker A
Welcome to Get Played. Your one stop show for good games, bad games and every games in between. It's time. Time to get played. I'm your host, Heather and Campbell, along with my fellow host, Tiger Weger.
Speaker B
That's me, Tiger Wagger, along with our third host, Mr. Games, Matt Apadaka.
Speaker C
Hello everyone.
Speaker A
Hello everyone and welcome to the show where today on the premiere gaming podcast we talk about gods in games.
Speaker B
That's right. Where the. The. The. I guess specifically the Greek gods and Greek myth in games more generally. Kind of a catch all sort of sort of. And that a surprising number of games fall into.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
A public domain. Well that is frequently. I'm mixing metaphors frequently mine.
Speaker A
You know, there's probably that like, you know, the, the. The sort of wormy guy and Die Hard who's like, hey, you want John McLean? I'll get him to you.
Speaker B
Yeah, sure, get him to.
Speaker A
I feel like in, like, 1985, there was, like, a. An agent who's, like, selling the IP of the great gods, right?
Speaker B
Sure.
Speaker A
He sounded exactly like that guy. He's probably like, hey, Nintendo, Sega, PlayStation. You guys want the gods?
Speaker C
You ever hear Hercules?
Speaker A
You ever talk about gods in your games? You want a Medusa? I got a Medusa. Medusa's not in enough games.
Speaker C
Not in enough games.
Speaker B
Also, you don't think Medusa's in enough games or Medusa's like. We're seeing a lot of Medusas. We'll talk about it.
Speaker A
Put her in more games.
Speaker B
I like Medusa.
Speaker C
You should be Medusa in a game. I think that'd be pretty tight.
Speaker B
Is there a game where you're a Medusa? Probably a fighting game where you can play a Medusa.
Speaker A
Yeah, probably.
Speaker B
I can't think of a Medusa.
Speaker C
Gorgon, I guess.
Speaker B
Yeah, Gorgon.
Speaker A
I mean, I. I know one, but I was going to save it for when we were talking about that stuff.
Speaker C
We'll get it into it. Don't do it now.
Speaker B
We're not going to jump the gun here.
Speaker A
Don't do it now. I'm not doing it. I'm not going to do it at all.
Speaker C
Are you kidding me with this?
Speaker A
It's not doing anything.
Speaker B
Wrench. You like a Medusa?
Speaker D
I like a Medusa.
Speaker A
I love a Medusa.
Speaker C
Favorite is the common denominator that, like, it's like snakes, right? Snakes are really cool.
Speaker B
I think the snake hair is cool. I think turning someone to stone with your gaze is cool. She has kind of like a tragic backstory, which kind of informs her character to some degree.
Speaker C
Isn't it, that she was like, I.
Speaker B
Think it's really bleak.
Speaker C
Oh, is it really? Should we not get into it?
Speaker A
Yeah, save it for getanimate.
Speaker C
Look, a lot of these. A lot of these figures in Greek mythology, they got tragic, tragic backstories.
Speaker A
It's almost like they were brought up in a time of great tragedy, like when. Yeah, most people are, like, dying at age 47 to 55.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Like, you just start getting your bearings on. On what life is, and then suddenly, like, Diogenes spits on your knee, you get an infection and you. You drop dead.
Speaker B
Yeah. I mean, I think that's like. I wonder if that's. That's partly where the. The midlife crisis comes from is be. When we, like, life expectancy was, you know, you hit 40 and then you're probably going to be, you know, if you're still alive, you're. You're You've already got one foot in the grave. It's a. I think that's an interesting.
Speaker A
Theory, but I think that if you were only living to 50, that you'd have your midlife crisis at 25, because, like, Alexander the Great's out there, like, leading troops at 18.
Speaker B
That's true. Yeah.
Speaker A
So, like, seven years later, the dude's probably like, what am I really doing?
Speaker B
And then he wept because he had no place left to conquer. You know, that was that crisis. Yeah.
Speaker A
Or he's a big.
Speaker C
Yeah, find some new places to conquer, babe.
Speaker B
Historians have not yet settled whether or not Alexander the Great was a huge pussy. It's. It's still well debated.
Speaker A
It's a shame.
Speaker C
That is why they call him the Great. Yeah.
Speaker A
It's a shame that that is a gendered slur.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Because it's so good.
Speaker B
It is a good slur. Like, it's a good one of our best.
Speaker A
It's a good slur. Like, coward doesn't have the same.
Speaker B
No, yeah.
Speaker C
No. You know, yeah, no, coward. Although I think if you say it mean enough, coward could be more hurtful.
Speaker A
I wonder what came first. This. You are a. As in, like, you're a cat or that girl's.
Speaker C
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B
What is the etymology here?
Speaker C
I would guess.
Speaker A
Let's look it up.
Speaker C
Yeah, I want you to look it up. This is.
Speaker B
This is.
Speaker A
Learn something on the show.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Which came first, pussy or pussy?
Speaker B
While we're stopped down, Matt, what's your favorite slur?
Speaker C
Oh, gosh. I mean, the list is so varied. I can't even do, like, a fake one because I don't even know. I don't even know if, like, the ones that, like, are sort of like, things people used to say.
Speaker B
Yes. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C
Are like, actually. Actually, that one's really bad.
Speaker B
Yeah, that's.
Speaker C
That.
Speaker B
That one's come back around to being super offensive.
Speaker C
Yeah, yeah, maybe Chud.
Speaker B
Chud is pretty good. Cannibalistic humanoid under Waller, calling someone a chud is fun.
Speaker C
It is really good. Yeah.
Speaker B
Chud.
Speaker C
Yeah. I've never seen chud, but I just know that, like, if I'm calling somebody a chud, it's. I'm. I'm. Right.
Speaker B
You got to see chud, but I hope you don't see a chud.
Speaker C
Man, if I saw a chud, I'd be really freaked out.
Speaker A
I think the noun pussy, meaning cat, comes from the modern English word puss, a conventional name for term of address for a cat. The word puss is attested in English as early as 1533. The words puss and derived forms pussy and pussycat were extended to refer to girls or women by the 17th century.
Speaker C
So.
Speaker A
So it is first slang for women and then you are a. Like a woman to. To insult a man.
Speaker B
So. So. Yeah, but cats first. The term for cats first then slang for, then general. The generalized to women and then specified to. You know, it's a. It's a. You're cooter, if you will.
Speaker C
I hated that.
Speaker A
Webster.
Speaker B
The.
Speaker A
The. There's more, there's more, there's more was used. Refers to specifically to genitalia by the 18th century.
Speaker B
Got it.
Speaker C
These things take so long.
Speaker B
They really do.
Speaker A
And they're further extended to refer to sexual intercourse involving a woman by the 20th century. But here come my boys. Webster's third international dictionary suggests that pussy in the sense of vulva may be connected to Old Norse puss meaning pocket or purse.
Speaker B
Wow. It comes back to Vikings.
Speaker C
When you said here come my boys, I knew it was Vikings.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker C
When does big pussy from the sopranos factor in 2004. Yeah.
Speaker A
Interesting, interesting. You know, you don't often learn things on our podcast. In fact, never before has anyone learned anything listening to the show. And now we all learned a little bit about a word that I think will probably get us banned from broadcast in Texas.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker C
Yeah, I'm gonna. I can't wait to go home and tell my wife I learned something at work today.
Speaker B
Hey, we have some exciting news to share. I'm not sure if you all saw that this fair. You know, we're recording a little bit earlier in the week than usual, but we have some news that came up. EA's $55 billion buyout gives Saudi Arabia even bigger foothold in the games industry.
Speaker C
How about that? Really great. And I can't wait to talk about it when we're performing live at the Riyadh Comedy Festival.
Speaker B
Can't wait to be there there at the podcast stage. It's going to be a blast. Big ups, mbs. Mohammed bin Salman, thank you for everything you're doing.
Speaker C
Yeah, I can't wait to put my hand in the sand.
Speaker B
This is the more electric Electron Arts confirmed Monday that the company was being acquired by private investors, including Saudi Arabia's public investment fund, private equity fund Silver Lake, and Affinity Partners, the investment firm founded by Jared Kushner, Donald Trump's son in law. Even the news gets even better, I got to say. So congrats to everyone involved.
Speaker C
For my money, the worst. Jared.
Speaker B
The thing is, ea already sucks.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
30 so fucking bad.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
So it's just like. I mean, this totally makes sense. That's sort of calculated.
Speaker A
Do they. Do they exclusively own the Star wars license or only for Battlefield?
Speaker B
I believe the Star wars license is. You know, I believe the Star Wars IP is licensed out to different publishers.
Speaker C
Yes. So you have. What do you call it? Ubisoft Did Outlaws.
Speaker A
Right.
Speaker C
Respawn, which is an EA company, I believe, did the Jedi games.
Speaker B
But, yeah, it's. It's. It's farmed out a bunch of different.
Speaker A
You know what's crazy is to think of. Think of being a, you know, a programmer, an artist, a developer at ea. Like, it's a. It's. It's a tough ethical job to have, but you. You keep your head down and you're like, if I. If I just get to carve out a. A little bit of art in this art form. Yeah, then maybe I can elevate the world. And your boss comes in and goes, hey, guys, we were bought by Kushner. Yeah, and the Saudis. That's tough.
Speaker C
Maybe. Maybe this. Maybe this potential windfall, though, could bring back EA Sports big.
Speaker B
I do like EA Sports big. Around.
Speaker C
Big.
Speaker B
Yeah. Real. Real bummer. That label was discontinued nine, 20 years ago at this point.
Speaker C
Yeah. Rip, rip.
Speaker B
Big ups, if you will.
Speaker C
Big ups.
Speaker A
Are there any other news items this week?
Speaker C
Gosh, it's still. It's. It's. It's earlier in the week than we typically.
Speaker B
That was the big one I saw.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
Those games really.
Speaker A
This. This episode's recording Spooky season, but is released solid. Spooky season.
Speaker C
Yes. Yeah, it's on. We're on the cusp. Cusp. I'm detecting a little bit of pumpkin spice in the air. I'm tasting it, even.
Speaker A
I make a pumpkin spice latte for myself in the mornings and have been all September.
Speaker B
You make it for yourself at home.
Speaker A
That's.
Speaker B
What do you do? What do you do?
Speaker A
What do you mean, what do I do?
Speaker C
Like, what's.
Speaker B
So what's your secret? What's your formula?
Speaker A
What do I do? I'll tell you what I do. I have an espresso machine that my wife got me for my birthday several years ago that I treat like a fucking sports car. I clean that motherfucker. I polish it. I measure my beans like where the vacuum left by alcoholism in my life has been filled with coffee. Obsessiveness, measure, grind. I have a. Like a thing that I put on top of my. My would be puck on top of my portafilter, and I spin it and it stirs up the beans and eliminates the static electricity. Then I tamp my, my. I jam it in my espresso machine. I brew my espresso. And then as you guys know, I don't drink or don't. Don't eat sugar. So I use manuka honey, which has a graininess and kind of, I want to say, like a spiciness to it.
Speaker C
Oh.
Speaker A
And that's how I sweeten the coffee, because you do have to sweeten it up in order to make it into a pumpkin spice latte. And then I shake pumpkin spice on top of my foam.
Speaker C
Wow.
Speaker A
And it. I. It's identical tasting to the Starbucks pumpkin spice latte.
Speaker B
I bet it's even better. What's, what's the, what's the, what is the pumpkin spice blend you have?
Speaker A
I think it's just like a Morton's, but it's cloves, nutmeg, cinnamon, anis I think is in there. I don't know. It's like a, it's a shaker, which.
Speaker B
Is just, Just an off the shelf. Yes.
Speaker A
It's a small pumpkin spice, and it's got like a glass. Well, it's in glass.
Speaker C
Yeah. That's nice. Yeah.
Speaker A
You don't want to eat that microplastic.
Speaker C
Well, I didn't know about taking the static electricity out of my damn coffee, and now I'm worried I'm gonna get sick or something.
Speaker A
No, that's not gonna make you sick. It's just for a. A more even flow.
Speaker C
I'm counting my days.
Speaker A
I also use a blind shaker. I mean, like I, I go through like a 10 step process to make an espresso.
Speaker C
Wow.
Speaker A
And my wife loves me for it, and I love her for getting me the thing.
Speaker B
How about that?
Speaker C
Cyclical. Very nice.
Speaker A
It is cyclical.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
This weekend I took the machine apart and I polished each part of it, and then I soaked it in cleaner, and then I used an ultrasonic cleaner on the, on the filter grid.
Speaker B
Wow. How cool. Filter grid, Filter grid.
Speaker A
I don't know. It's like a. It's like a. It's a metal puck that I put on top of my. Coffee puck.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
To create a greater height in the puck itself and create a more even pressure and distribution from the water that flows out of the group head.
Speaker B
Coffee puck. What a good word.
Speaker A
Yeah, it is. It is.
Speaker C
I was just thinking, I was picturing a coffee puck the size of a hockey puck. That'd be a big, big cup of coffee.
Speaker A
I would bathe in coffee.
Speaker C
That would be really? Ah, man, it's the best.
Speaker A
I'm in hell.
Speaker C
One of the top drinks, certainly. I think number one hot drink.
Speaker A
I miss whiskey.
Speaker B
Number one hot drink. Is it coffee? What are other candidates?
Speaker C
You got tea? Of course. Tea is pretty good, though.
Speaker B
You got hot water?
Speaker C
Hot water. I think hot water's at the. At the bottom.
Speaker B
I think just a mug of hot water.
Speaker C
That sucks. What am I sick? I mean, if I'm sick. Hot water and lemon. Maybe it gets up there.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
What is. So, wait, what. What am I. There's got to be something else. There's gonna be something.
Speaker A
I mean, something more than coffee.
Speaker B
No, coffee and tea. I'm just like, more hot.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Hot chocolate. There you go.
Speaker C
I mean, hot chocolate's number one.
Speaker B
I'd rather have a cup of coffee than a cup of hot chocolate at my age.
Speaker C
But what about a little cup of marshmallows or something? Whipped cream?
Speaker A
Hot milkshake?
Speaker B
Hot milkshake.
Speaker C
Thick. Thick and hot.
Speaker B
Sounds like that sounds rough.
Speaker C
Nasty.
Speaker D
Hot.
Speaker A
Eggnog.
Speaker B
Magma.
Speaker C
What do we think about a little bit of soup? Not like anything thick or nothing.
Speaker A
Like a broth.
Speaker C
Yeah, in a mug. In a little bit of mug. That's kind of a drink more than it is a food.
Speaker B
Well, I can't. I can't go there. I can't say soup is a drink.
Speaker A
I will say when you're camping and you pour that out of a thermos and it's steaming hot, and you drink it out of the cap. Wow. What a great time.
Speaker C
That's good stuff. I had some clam chowder over the weekend. That's not. That's not the type of soup I'm talking about, by the way. That's.
Speaker B
That's definitely an ANC chowder.
Speaker C
No, it was. I mean, gosh.
Speaker B
Okay. Like a New England clam chowder. Classic. Sort of.
Speaker C
It was like classic. It was that. It was at Houston's. They had a little special. Okay.
Speaker B
Yeah, yeah. That's probably like a. That day, you know, Just classic.
Speaker C
We got a. We got a clam chowder for the table, me and my wife.
Speaker B
New England.
Speaker C
Unbelievable. It was so good.
Speaker B
Houston's is fun. Good time at Houston's.
Speaker C
I loved it. I loved it. Hot drinks. It's getting to hot drink season.
Speaker A
I'm. I'm. I'm a constant hot drink season girl.
Speaker B
Ever seen that Wendy's Hot drinks training video?
Speaker A
Hot, frosty.
Speaker B
Lots of different.
Speaker C
I haven't. I haven't seen.
Speaker B
It's fucking great. The song is. It's like. It's like. It's like one of those. Those training videos from a time when effort was put into these things. And for some reason, there's just like this incredible, like, new jack swing, like, like, pop song that's driving it.
Speaker C
What was the. What was like. Do you know, like, what era it was? Like, what year perhaps?
Speaker B
I mean, late 80s, early 90s. It kind of feels like, I guess it could be earlier than that, but it's. It's so.
Speaker C
That's about when people cared about.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker C
Stuff.
Speaker A
Have you. Have you. Speaking of hot drinks and instructional videos, have you guys heard the We Built this Starbucks song that was leaked from a Starbucks corporate in the 90s?
Speaker C
No.
Speaker A
It is. It is the height of cringe. It is like a song played at a corporate event about how they're, like, meeting their goals and meeting their numbers, all sung to the tune of We Built this City.
Speaker B
A song that already sucks.
Speaker C
Yeah. We built this city on rock and roll. I don't think so. Building on something else.
Speaker B
Yeah, I think that's the real pride. So it's a logic issue with the song.
Speaker C
It's not gonna be able to sustain itself on rock and roll alone. That's not enough. There's not enough infrastructure.
Speaker A
The. The song's corrupted lyrics from Starbucks is we built this Starbucks on heart and soul.
Speaker C
That is worse.
Speaker A
Yep.
Speaker C
That is. That's a. That's. Yeah, that's a lot worse.
Speaker A
It's terrible.
Speaker C
I hate that.
Speaker A
It's a awful song.
Speaker C
You know what? I'm never going there again.
Speaker A
Yeah, well, they're closing, so you don't.
Speaker B
Have to worry about it.
Speaker C
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Speaker A
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Speaker B
Should we talk about some video games?
Speaker A
Fuck video games.
Speaker C
Okay. No, let's do it.
Speaker A
Let's do it.
Speaker B
There's a question we ask each week on the podcast about video games that we've been playing lately. The question is, what are you playing?
Speaker C
What are you playing? Hi, it's me, the Resident Evil Merchant, and I'm here to ask my friends what they've been playing.
Speaker A
Mad up with Duck.
Speaker C
What have you been playing? Resident Evil 4 merchant. Thank you so much. You're welcome. I'm still playing Silksong. I, I, I got, I got an item that's going to help me out a lot with the fight that I, that I'm still on with the last judge. I'm still on it because there hasn't been that much time in between since we last spoke.
Speaker A
Right. Because we're recording early.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
Is the item tax?
Speaker C
It is tax. I got the tax. And those things, you pop them down. You pop them down the right spot, you're doing damage. Before the battle started, the last judge is like, standing in them. It's like, oh, oh, oh, ow. And then you have stuff, too. I have this thing that it adds poison to your tools. So, like, I'm dropping poison tax.
Speaker A
Oh, nice.
Speaker C
Now he's like, ah, fuck.
Speaker A
Oh.
Speaker C
He says, it's, it's, it's.
Speaker B
That's wild.
Speaker C
He doesn't say, fuck, I was just kidding. I'm just kidding.
Speaker B
I believed you.
Speaker C
He says, why did you do that, Matt?
Speaker B
Like the old ET Ride and say your name at the end.
Speaker C
Bring back the ET Ride.
Speaker A
Bring back everything.
Speaker C
Bring back everything.
Speaker B
Why not?
Speaker C
But so I don't have that much to report because I haven't beaten this boss yet, but I have a take that I'd like to drop here on the show. A take I'm debuting for the first time to the both of you.
Speaker B
Debut take.
Speaker C
Here we go. Yeah. Between Silksong.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker C
Death Stranding 2.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker C
Hades 2.
Speaker A
Yep.
Speaker C
And perhaps even the upcoming Ghost, Ghost of yotei. I think 2025 might be the year of the video game sequel.
Speaker B
I mean, there's also, you know, Kingdom Come Deliverance, too, which Heather played.
Speaker C
That's right.
Speaker B
So that's another.
Speaker A
That'S the way it starts.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
And every time you start it, you're like, oh, what a nice time. Where was I saving? And you, like, load. It takes forever to load because there's so much. And like, you start and you're being attacked by a wolf and it's like, oh, right, right, right this way.
Speaker C
Stop. I think there's just a lot of really great sequels and, like, some like that have come out this year. And some of these sequels are just all timers.
Speaker B
Specifically number two. Number two.
Speaker C
Yeah. So I don't know. Something. I don't know if it's like, we don't gotta, like, stamp the take now to be like, that's a good take. We could see. We could let the rest of the year go and then see where we're at with it. But I kind of. I kind of think there's something to it.
Speaker B
These are number twos. You don't want to flush. It's like the queen's turds. Put those in a museum.
Speaker A
I'm sorry, what?
Speaker C
They didn't flush. The queen's turds.
Speaker B
Put those in a museum.
Speaker C
Do you think. Wait, did they do that? No, no, not those. Not those.
Speaker A
UK and you open a door, it's just like a plexiglass chamber of every shit she ever took.
Speaker C
There's something kind of. That immediately makes me think, I would like to see that when I die. Like, I would like to see represent. Represented somehow in whatever afterlife there is. I want to see a tower or pyramid or some sort of structure of all the shits I took in my life.
Speaker A
God.
Speaker C
Be kind of interesting. Yeah, no, they're kind of like the queen shits in that way.
Speaker B
Got it.
Speaker C
The turds. You don't want to flush, but I'm. I mean, I'm. I'm very, very excited.
Speaker A
Okay.
Speaker C
For. For Ghost of Yote.
Speaker A
Oh, my.
Speaker C
Be looking forward to checking that out so that I'm. But I'm guessing it's adding to the. The. The sequels of. Of this year. The number twos of this year.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
I mean, if it lives. If it, if it. If it iterates on the. The first game, which I, you know, really enjoyed.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
If it's really like, then the same way that, that that, you know, some of these other games have. Have been a notable step, or maybe not a notable step up is maybe over too much, but like, like, like, like a clear advancement of the already previously compelling game.
Speaker C
Yeah. So that. That's it for me.
Speaker A
Okay.
Speaker B
How about that?
Speaker C
Yeah, I like to hear it.
Speaker B
Heather, what are you Playing well, I.
Speaker A
Continue to play Persona 5, which is just a smooth time. As I said before, it's the first time I've ever played one of these games where I've decided not to try and max out anything or look up anything. I'm just like to do were that I was my boy, who I've named Wolfgang. If I was Wolfgang and I was wandering around the city, I'm going to do batting pages. Okay, sure. I want to do batting cage. It also makes me really wish that I did more here in Los Angeles because everything he does is available here.
Speaker B
Right. You can just go around and do this stuff, but I don't do any of these things. You can just go fishing in the city if you want.
Speaker C
Yeah, you could go to a batting cage. You can go. Would try to woo a pharmacist or your teacher.
Speaker A
Instead, I sit on my couch and I go. I don't feel good like that all the time. Stressed out from, from waking up. Oh my God. The other thing I've been doing is of course playing Fortnite took that 13 week break and I'm back on the game. It is so full of glitches still.
Speaker C
Jesus, what's the way.
Speaker B
Explain what's, what's going on with Fortnite? What are the glitches right now?
Speaker A
So the theory that my, my squad mates have is that the initial launch of the season, which I missed, was so catastrophic and the numbers on the game fell so rapidly, really, that they pulled all of the boons and medallions out of the game and they threw in a couple of pieces of mobility, a hammer that was in many, many seasons ago. I actually, I think the hammer was in right after we played for, for the podcast.
Speaker C
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A
And the hammer is sort of. It was medieval themed and like came from a quarry that was in that season. Now it's just back with no story. Right.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
And the hammer glitches constantly. There are also key binding issues which are so widespread that like you, you can just like do a basic Google of like, I can't. I can't draw. I can't shoot out of the window of the car. How do I fix it? And there's like, like tons and tons of Reddit threads about, about these issues, none of which have been solved. And given that this game is, you know, pulling in $60 billion a year or whatever for, for Epic, it's wild to me that they would let a single day go by without hotfixing these problems.
Speaker B
Right.
Speaker A
But also this week was the daft Punk experience.
Speaker C
Oh yes.
Speaker A
Which was such a visual feast.
Speaker B
Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker C
Oh man.
Speaker A
Imagine the game res.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker A
Will the old game res? We're flying through a sort of digital landscape while. While plummeting towards an unseen gravitational force.
Speaker B
Trans vibrator going. Just for vibes.
Speaker A
Trans. Trans vibrator going. It's in your pocket.
Speaker B
It's in your pocket. Yeah. What else you gonna. What are you else you gonna do?
Speaker A
You gotta put it in your pocket. Yeah, put it on your dog and.
Speaker B
You might put it in your mouth.
Speaker C
Or something, shattering your teeth.
Speaker B
Dumb guy with a vibrator.
Speaker C
I guess. I don't know what to do with this.
Speaker B
Return to the adult store.
Speaker C
This thing hurt my teeth. Going to the er. It's rattling my rib cage.
Speaker B
Swallowed it.
Speaker C
Idiot.
Speaker B
Dumb as.
Speaker C
So it's fun to invent new dumb guy.
Speaker B
The doctor's like, yeah, look, just, you know, just let digestion work its magic and eventually come out the other end.
Speaker C
Yeah. He's like, I'm gonna do that again.
Speaker B
I liked it on the way out.
Speaker C
Luckily I didn't flush it because I'm Prince Andrew.
Speaker B
That explains why he's dumb.
Speaker A
So the. The Daft Punk experience was very res. Inspired, I think, but with modern day high fidelity visuals. And of course the soundtrack was made by Daft Punk.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
So it was like a really, really cool inter. Like, like interactive tunnel that then drops you off at a concert experience that sort of replicates famous concerts of theirs and you can go to like different eras to. To Taylor Swift. The eras of Daft Punk. And you can also remix their songs in the arena. Altogether a flawless bug free experience. A friend. A friend who is, I believe, a listener on the show. Miguel. Miguel was like, why don't they have those programmers working on the main game? Because it was. It was really cool and. And honestly my favorite of the concert experiences I've had in Fortnite so far. But that's it. Like that's. I finished off the Pokemon the card game pocket season in Master Ball. I don't believe I got to a ranked position. That's okay because this is my first season finishing in Master Ball and I was really proud of myself.
Speaker C
Congrats.
Speaker A
My mom also plays. She had her worst season, but she did take pictures of Pokemon cards at a flea market because now she knows what they kind of mean.
Speaker C
Oh, interesting.
Speaker A
You know, like she could be like, oh, I know what to do. This. What, what these instructions on the cards mean.
Speaker C
Interesting.
Speaker A
That's kind of neat.
Speaker C
Do you think she'll get into Collecting them?
Speaker A
I doubt it. But she does want to watch a tournament.
Speaker B
Oh, that's fun.
Speaker C
That's. That's. What a trajectory.
Speaker A
Yeah. Yeah. My mom, the gamer. Nick. Tiger.
Speaker B
Yes, Wiker. That's me.
Speaker A
What are you playing?
Speaker B
Heather? I just. Just. I will answer your question, but I just. Just to touch on something that. That you're. That Miguel. Your buddy Miguel mentioned. I have a. I. I'm just. I'm just. My inference would be having, you know, worked in development a long time ago, but being aware that even if these companies are usually resources are stretched thin and there's never enough programmers on anything, I would guess it's probably the same that the same team and they probably just don't have enough manpower to handle both things.
Speaker A
It's crazy to me though that that would be the case on what is one of the most financially successful games on planet Earth.
Speaker B
That's what's so fucking dumb about how so many of these companies do business. I'm not saying it's universal. I'm not saying that's necessarily even the case with epic. Maybe they do have, you know, maybe they are fully staffed, but in my experience it does seem to be like. Like there's just a shortage of programmers in general and then specifically programmers. The design and art teams used to be. Departments used to be. Tend to be a little bit more likely to be fully staffed.
Speaker C
But.
Speaker B
But also just every, Every place is trying to do. Do more with less is like a general like corporate ethos.
Speaker C
Right.
Speaker B
It's just like. Like well, fewer people. We'll lay off as many people as we can. We'll have the workforce be as streamlined meaning as small as possible to maximize profit. And that's why a lot of stuff just gets shittier and shittier.
Speaker C
I could see that too. Like.
Speaker B
But I mean I don't have any insight info. I'm just. I'm purely speculating. You're not one of the guys from.
Speaker C
Daft Punk, are you? You got me. We don't know who they are. They wear the helmet.
Speaker A
Weiger's suddenly French. Oh no. I am Deft bump.
Speaker C
I could see be more resources going to the Daft Punk thing though, specifically because it's Daft Punk. They don't really do that much stuff. Like so like for them to have wanted to participate in this at all. Yeah. Or you know, not like they're not in the game like, you know what I mean? But like. Well, yeah, they are skinned. So like I guess to sign off on. On it, they would want it to be Something that was like really great and well done. And it sounds like it came out out great.
Speaker A
Yeah, it turned out great. And the Power Rangers collab is really fun too. You get to get in the Megazord and if you are in your squad, then all four of you do the poses before you jump up into this in the Megazord. And each of you controls a different. Like one of you has the arm, one of you controls the torso. It's wonderful. Like that's all functioning great.
Speaker C
Yeah. And you said Rita's in the game too.
Speaker A
Rita's in the game.
Speaker C
What about Gold?
Speaker A
Screaming the whole time. Zed. Is that Emperor Zed?
Speaker C
Emperor Z? Really?
Speaker A
Emperor Zed's in the game.
Speaker C
The.
Speaker B
The. You're making it just Daft Punk and. And then the. The upcoming Tron Aries, which I believe Nine Inch Nails is doing the soundtrack.
Speaker C
Oh, yeah.
Speaker B
Me just thinking about the. The Tron Legacy. Was it right? The subtitle. Tron Legacy, Daft Punk soundtrack. Which is so good.
Speaker A
So good.
Speaker C
It's amazing.
Speaker B
Such a. I like. I just. I. I like that album more than I like the movie.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
And I like the movie. And then of course, the. The incredible original Tron soundtrack by the great Wendy Carlos, which is also just so inimitable.
Speaker A
Well, you would like the Tron Legacy because you wrote it. You wrote the music.
Speaker B
I wrote the music because I'm one of the guys. You're one of the guys? Yeah. I am one of the daft partners.
Speaker C
You wrote it in French because you're French, right?
Speaker B
That's my first language.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
I'm not gonna speak it now.
Speaker C
No, no, that's okay.
Speaker B
I gotta maintain the mystery.
Speaker C
Yeah, exactly. You gotta. And you're also Mr. Brainwash.
Speaker B
Yeah, that's the. I'm also Mr. Brainwash. Wait, isn't that a real. Don't you. Don't we know who Mr. Brainwash is?
Speaker C
Wait, I meant to. That's how crazy Mr. Banks. Mr. Brainwash is the Daft Punk guy.
Speaker B
He's hiding.
Speaker C
He's hiding in plain sight as this guy who's pretending to maybe be Banksy.
Speaker B
Right?
Speaker C
Yeah, it's all pretty crazy stuff.
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Speaker A
Yeah, I've also been playing it, Heather's.
Speaker B
Also been playing, so we've all been playing it. So let, let, let me, let's open up the discussion. At this point, I do feel like there was a little bit more of a choke point slash, you know, like skill test in with Hades 1 in terms of escaping that first biome, it feels like mag, Like I, you did need a few more bites at the apple, a few more iterations, a few more runs to get through that. I think because of the structure of this game, because it's got maybe a, a few more biomes, it's a little bit more expansive. There's less of a, like a, like a, what am I trying to say here? It's, it's, I'll say it very simply. It's less difficult to beat that first boss. That first boss. And so like I did it relatively early. It was just a couple run runs before I, I knocked them out. But that was like satisfying in of itself to get to like a new biome relative, like much quicker than in Hades one.
Speaker C
Yeah, like I would say because I had spent, I had done a few runs back when it released in early access when we had first sort of talked about it. Yeah. And hadn't touched it since then. So I'm having like a. Since I. Since I've rejoined the re. You know, I guess rejoined the conversation and started with 1.0 know. I'm having a hard time remembering what was and wasn't there kind of.
Speaker B
Right.
Speaker C
Just because it's been a while since I experienced it, but I feel like I just experienced something that wasn't there. I don't think it was there the first time. The sort of like playable, like flashback.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker C
That.
Speaker B
I mean, some of that stuff is. Does feel like it's been added.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Fair in. Fair. In recent. More recent builds, which I enjoyed.
Speaker C
I thought that was great.
Speaker B
Or fleshed out, at minimum.
Speaker C
Yes. And I love the tarot cards. I think they're. They're very like that. That sort of adds more to the world than the mirror did for me, for sure. It's just a little more like in. In line with like the. The magic element and things like that.
Speaker B
Well, also, the mirror was pretty, like, it was basically just a, you know, just a menu, you know. It was pretty minimal. I think it absolutely got the job done, but it was not something with a lot of visual panache, which is the. The tarot cards do have a little bit of. Of like you were saying, like, like kind of coloring the world a little bit more.
Speaker C
And I. So far I've gotten to the first sort of like boss and I haven't done it yet, but I've only done like three runs probably or something. So I'm sort of like relearning the, like, how to play and just like. And just loving it. Loving how fast it is and how I. I got it. I've already gotten a new weapon and a new, like, tool. Like there's like the tools for like, mining resources and things like that that I've enjoyed. And I gotta just say, the character design, yet again, some of the hottest characters I've ever seen, ever.
Speaker A
There was a lady with an eight pack.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
And I was like, wow.
Speaker C
Unbelievable.
Speaker A
I wish I was buff like that lady.
Speaker C
Yeah, it's so I'm just. I'm really enjoying the game. And even though I've spent not that much time with it so far, I'm already like. The game of the year slot is. Is stacked. It's stacked. It's a fucking crazy year.
Speaker A
It is a crazy year for games.
Speaker C
It's crazy.
Speaker A
Can I say the number one thing that I appreciate about Hades 2 is that you start the game and you can immediately play the game.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker C
Great.
Speaker A
And God damn it. Like, the first time you play the game, it's like, I think there's a single splash screen of some kind of story setup that's just like, oh, boy, Kronos has to die. And then you're. You're playing. There's no tutorial. There's no, like, nothing is, like, fucking, like, slow leading you into the actual game. It's just like, here you go, go. And if you want, you can investigate more of how to play the game, like, pretty shortly thereafter. Because you. After you die, your first time, you can train, you can, like, learn all your buttons, whatever. But for me, I was just like, oh, how far can I get on my very first run before I know any of this stuff? And that was so enjoyable, and I was really, really, really grateful for it. Also, she moves pretty fast.
Speaker B
That's what I'm talking. Great sense of speed.
Speaker A
It's not quite fast enough, but I know that there's going to be upgrades to how fast she can.
Speaker C
Yeah, you can get ST to make it go a little faster.
Speaker A
Yeah, you. You can. And so where she is in speed, when you start, I'm like, this is acceptable to me. This isn't blueprint speed. I'm not. I'm not angry at how slow my character is running around. It's. It's pretty good.
Speaker C
It would be so funny if a game like this was that slow. Like, if you could be like. If you had to be so slow, like in.
Speaker A
I feel like Diablo is pretty slow physically.
Speaker B
Yeah, I think. I mean, those games definitely do not have the same sort of.
Speaker C
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B
You know, you did you. Even in. I mean, Diablo 2 is especially. Was. Was frustrating because I. I love that game. But, like, you had a. You would. You could only run for so long before you'd run out of stamina, and stamina being a resource, you'd eventually have to upgrade so you can run more. And your walking speed was much slower.
Speaker A
So one of the things they've upgraded in Fortnite this season is that they have very, very rapidly in the game when. Because each time you get boons and. And upgrades in. In your run of Fortnite, which is more and more like a roguelite. The boons you get eliminate stamina depletion, so you can do the running speed for longer and longer the longer you play the game, which is really nice for those of us who like to run.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
They also added sonic wheels to the cars.
Speaker B
Whoa.
Speaker C
Really?
Speaker A
Yeah, it Looks like he's rolling in the wheel.
Speaker B
I definitely someone who got you know up pretty high in the heat when I was doing you know Hades two Hades one runs over and over again. I did start to feel like king in that very first run a little bit be like oh man what if I what if I just like keep going here and then yeah of course get obliterated. Guy Guy Guy is my hubris was punished much like much like Icarus in the Greek myth. But the but I this guy's good Kid Icarus Kid much like Kid Icarus but it it is morbid title. It really is. Once you you get to the.
Speaker A
A.
Speaker B
Part of I think why they're they're just starting you like like like NB rays and just being like hey just go for it which I I I love. I don't know if the time to game account is still going but when that would like that this is one I'd be it feels like seconds before you actually get to play this game which I love but I I as much as like teaching you how to play the game. This game is trying to teach you that you're gonna die and just trying to get you to a death really quickly in the same way that they the the the the relatively quickly the same way that souls games usually start with a boss that's gonna just kick the out of you.
Speaker C
It must be possible.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker C
To play that opening level all the way to the end.
Speaker B
I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure we're gonna I'm. I'm being I wonder if someone's already done that.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
I bet that will be a speedrun category at some point.
Speaker C
I'm already I'm, I'm preemptively so impressed by somebody.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker C
I love it.
Speaker B
What a legend that'll be. That's interesting. I wonder if it will be because when when people start min maxing this and I I don't know how much the how much of a speedrunning community there is around Hades but if you were trying to speed run a game like like a rogue like is the fastest version trying to get through it on on your first run. I know a lot of people are speed running blueprints and there's a lot of like day one runs. There's a lot of like that or is it going to be maybe faster to get to a death quickly so you can get a few upgrades that make you a little bit faster at getting through the run? Yeah. I don't know it'd Be interesting where that calculus ends up landing when, when they, they hyper optimize that. But yeah, I think this, I think it's, it's really, really fun. Oh, it sounds like you haven't gotten to ocean. It's the, the watery realm yet. And we, this, this game is, has basically just come out as of this recording. Like I said, we keep saying we've recording a bit earlier than we normally do.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
But as you might infer from the name, it's a little wet. And that's kind of fun.
Speaker C
Yeah. I was kind of getting the impression when you said Oceanus that it might be a little wet.
Speaker B
Heather's making a face. Sorry. Jesus.
Speaker C
Hey. Sorry. You hear a word like ocean? I'm gonna guess wet.
Speaker A
That's fine.
Speaker C
I, I already do really like the, I mean, I'm not so deep in the story yet of it. Right. So. But like, even if it was just like, hey, there's no story, it's just a little bit more of Hades and you're just now playing this character. I'm like, great. It's just like, it's such a fun loop and so fun. It's just a, it's. I love pushing buttons. Yeah, it rocks.
Speaker B
It, it's, you know, it's fine. It's been five years since the original Hades came out, right? Like five years. And so they've used that development time. Well, I'm glad it doesn't seem like they, you know, supergiant overthought it in terms of, like completely reinventing what the game is. It's just like the, the stuff that works is just underlined and emphasized and bolded. And then there's just some additional mechanics that make it a little bit of a richer, more fleshed out experience. And from what I can gather, it's just a bigger game.
Speaker A
I was surprised how cozy it feels. Felt.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
It feels real cozy.
Speaker A
Like even though they're not the same guys, they are sort of the same guys. Yeah, sure. Like, oh, it's my friends from this little game.
Speaker B
Well, you see something, you see like hypnosis still there, you know, it's like you'll see some of your old friends.
Speaker A
Aphrodite's still there.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
You know, but still it, it's like I was like, oh, I, I, I didn't realize that this would feel as warm as it does to me. And, and less of a chore. And, and because I, I didn't remember loving Hades, like, I ran, I ran through the first, I finished that first run and I was like, okay, I'm done. And you guys were like, no, the real game starts now. And I was like, ah, no, not for me. That's it. But I still was really. I don't know. It was nice. The sound is nice, the color is nice. It's a good, pretty game.
Speaker C
I've already double dipped on this because I got the early access on Steam.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker C
But, but it's available for Switch 2. So I was like I'll get it on Switch 2. And the cool thing there is that you can link your account.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker C
Cross save with Cross save. So like if I wanted to then play it on my PC or something or my Steam deck, I could, I could do that and keep the, the 1.0 progress going. But it's just. They just, they make great stuff. I just really. I just really am so happy that it's finally out in 1.0 and rad. Yeah.
Speaker B
That before we, before we get into Greek gods and G and games and Greek myths and games. Producer Michelle Shen Ranch Are. Are you also playing Silk Song?
Speaker D
I am playing Silk Song.
Speaker B
Let's. Let's do a quick. What are you playing Report with. With you. Like how is your, what is your Silk Song experience? How does it compare to Hollow Knight one? And. Yeah. Where are you at in the game?
Speaker D
I am like really enjoying Silk Song even more than Hollow Knight.
Speaker B
Wow.
Speaker D
Even though I think Hollow Knight is a perfect game, I think that it's. I don't know if it's because of playing Hollow Knight where I just understand how the game works. I feel like it's been going a lot quicker.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker D
And yeah. Getting to the action faster and less meandering. I think there is a lot of grinding that needs to happen in certain points. But I don't know. I just really like being in it.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker D
But I'm in Act two right now. Yeah. The game seems getting more intense, which is surprising.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker D
Because I think Hollow Knight was just like basically it seemed like a gradual maybe intensity. But I feel like act two is already just kind of crazy.
Speaker C
I remember wanting to ask you what crest are you using? Because you could have sort of different builds now. You find these crests throughout the, the, the world and you're. You start with the. The Hunter's Crest. I think it is. And. Or the Reaper. I can't remember which one. I'm. I'm using the. I think I'm using the Reaper.
Speaker D
I think so too. I think it was the second one I found that lets you pogo directly down instead of diagonal. That they were making us do at the beginning of the game where Hornet goes diagonal and it was very confusing.
Speaker C
I, I, I sometimes go back to that one because your attack is, you have more reach with your attack and it's a little stronger.
Speaker B
Right.
Speaker C
But the platforming is so much harder with that diagonal. And I somehow I know that I'm supposed to do it a certain way and I, I can't, I can't do it. I feel so bad at the game.
Speaker D
I haven't got gone back to that crest at all.
Speaker C
Yeah, I did find a crest that is basically the same move set as Hollow Knight, which is cool. But you're, you have such limited reach that it's not worth it. But then I have this other one too that like you and you have different, there are different sort of like medallion spaces that you can unlock. I love this system. Is so fun to me. Yeah. Cuz you don't have all of them available at, right away. But like you can sometimes put like you get two blue ones, two yellow ones and two red ones. The red ones are tools. Yellow is a like sort of like passive sort of like abilities. And then blue ones are like, sort of like active ones where you can have like a shield or like the poison thing that I was talking about earlier. And it's just, it's really, really great. And I, I, I think it does feel a little bit more, the world feels a little bit more rich I think because there's something about the rosary beads to me, I'm like, okay, this, this society has religion. There's inherently, there's something a little bit more going on here. There's like, there's something, there's a little, it's a little bit meatier for some reason. It's very interesting.
Speaker D
There's definitely more story happening. I feel like Hollow Knight was mysterious to the degree where I still don't understand what happened in that story. But I think in Silksong there is a kind of a clear journey that Hornet is going through and it's like very, very fun. And she's also very sassy.
Speaker C
Yes. Oh yeah. And she talks too. So like sometimes I just encountered somebody who was like, I'll call you this or whatever and she goes, you'll call me by my name or nothing at all. Wow.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker D
She's so cool.
Speaker C
Have you been to the Slab?
Speaker D
The Slab?
Speaker C
Yeah, there's okay, there's an area called the Slab that's like a trap area. And then you get stripped of all your items.
Speaker D
I haven't been there okay.
Speaker C
It's.
Speaker A
It's.
Speaker C
It's. It's. It's. It's. It rules, but you have no items, so then you're having to navigate this area without, like, a compass or skills or anything. And it's. It's great. It's really fun.
Speaker D
Where is that near?
Speaker C
I don't remember. But you will find it on accident. Which is what. Which is what I did. Like, oh, interesting. Oh, I'm trapped now. And you have to. You have to find your way out and get your stuff back and stuff. It's in many ways one of the greatest games I've ever played. It's great.
Speaker B
Wow.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Really?
Speaker C
That, that.
Speaker B
But like, for Silk Song, you're saying that at this point.
Speaker C
Yeah, that's why I'm not even done with it. And like, for where I'm sitting right now, who knows if I'll ever finish this damn thing. But it's. It's. It's just so good. Yeah, it's. It's the exact. Like, it's maybe an unfair benchmark for iteration. Yeah, like, it's like, it's because it's exactly more in every single way day.
Speaker B
I was, I was talking to my alpha brother Nate, and he who finished Hollow Knight, and I was, you know, I know I love Hollow Knight. And I was, he was asking me if I was playing something. I was like, not yet, you know, because. Because I've just like, kind of fell off of Hollow Knight. And he's like. I was like, how about you? And he was like, it was interesting to hear someone who's like, like, like, I don't. I don't know. I hear it's like, it's like, even harder. I don't have patience for it. That, like, I, I, That. I think that is. That has kind of been circulated so widely that even fans of Hollow Knight in some cases are being like, oh, know if I want to tackle this game. But it seems both of you, as avowed fans of Hollow Knight, are saying that Silk, like, it's Silk Song, if, If you like the first game, you like Silk Song, and the, The.
Speaker C
The.
Speaker B
The. The difficulty spike is not enough to. It should not be enough to deter someone who's a fan of. Of again, the original.
Speaker C
Yeah, I think so. Because I think it. It feels a little bit more rewarding in, In. In that way. Like, the difficulty is. Is punishing, but when you do it, the main reward is not throwing your switch across the room or your Steam deck. Yeah. Or your Steam deck. Yeah. Or, you know, punching your Computer monitor or something.
Speaker B
Yeah, sure.
Speaker C
But it's, it's just.
Speaker B
It's spiking your PlayStation like a football. Putting your Xbox up your own ass. You know the things you might do.
Speaker C
The things you taking the Xbox series s and just being like, nah, I'm so pissed. I know what I'll do. I'll shove this up my own ass. That'll show it. It's. It's. It's. It's just an incredible game. And it looks fantastic too. There's just always a lot going on in each area. It's. And all the little bugs, they're nasty.
Speaker A
Nobody likes bugs.
Speaker C
Nah.
Speaker A
Before we move into the main topic, I'm surprised that we haven't Talked about the 10 Year Plan of Kojima Productions conference that happened.
Speaker C
Oh yeah.
Speaker A
Last week. Did either of you get a chance to watch it?
Speaker C
I didn't watch it, but I watched the trailer and I watched the trailer for OD Knock which seemed cool. Seemed very pt. Yeah, but it's also like it's. It also very well could not be like that. Right? Like, it wouldn't surprise me if he like like made some of it intentionally to evoke that. In the same way that like Solid Snake is basically in Death Stranding 2. He was testing the waters with that now and now maybe doing it again with this. That it looks, it looks cool.
Speaker A
It looks very real.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
Like the, the animations on the hands when you're lighting the matches in the. In the demo trailer real thing were upsettingly visually realistic.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
I don't know. It seems, it seems cool. Fizznt. A lot of people have already sort of re scanned and re resed the poster a million times to see who the star of Fizzent is. And it seems like it might be Robert Pattinson.
Speaker C
Jesus Christ.
Speaker A
Because it like if you blow up the brightness on the, on the poster, like 10 billion percent sure looks like Robert Pattinson on that. That poster.
Speaker C
Really cool.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
Yeah, I. I know Fandom is sw. I love Robert Pattinson. I think he makes such great choices and he's such a good actor.
Speaker C
I love him.
Speaker B
I'm such a huge fan. I love him. I love Austin Butler too. I'm such a fan of Austin Butler. I think he's so.
Speaker A
We love Austin Butler.
Speaker C
When you were here last week we did a segment Dreamcast for Final Fantasy vii and where did we cast? Did we cast. I think we cast him as Cloud. That's honestly kind of good.
Speaker B
It's very, it's very fun. Like to. Especially now that I like I'm older than a lot of these actors. Just like man, I love that guy. He's so cool.
Speaker C
That's the thing about him. He seems so cool.
Speaker B
He's good, he makes good choices. He has good taste.
Speaker C
It's very, very interesting. I'm glad that there's like somebody like a cool movie star.
Speaker B
I watched, I walked by a eyes at this annoying. It's this annoying high end mall but it's got like a really good movie theater. So like we go there sometimes and there I was walking out there they had a. It was one of those luxury watch brands.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
And I walk by, it was like one of those stores. I just like, I don't know who like how there possibly enough customers for like all these like, like watch brands, you know and jewelry stores. They're at these like luxury malls. But whatever the. I'm walking by it and then there's like two displays. There's one is like one. One is Austin Butler wearing a watch. Wearing one of the watches and the other one is multi time NBA MVP and champion Giannis Antetokounmpo of where I go watch who's like he's so handsome and he's so cool. I, I look at him, he's like. I was so like easily persuaded.
Speaker C
Yeah. No, I, I mean it kind of.
Speaker B
Makes a look like that now too. I'm one of these guys.
Speaker C
You've just described why everybody then bought the drive jacket. Yeah man. That's the hottest guy I've ever seen. Are you kidding me? He looks awesome. I'm going to get a jacket like that and also be hot. I guess. I would love nothing more. To play a video game where you star as Robert Patton.
Speaker B
That'd be awesome.
Speaker A
Pretty dope. Yeah, pretty dope.
Speaker C
He would honestly be kind of a good cloud. I know that we're not doing the segment anymore. He'd be an interesting cloud.
Speaker A
He would be an interesting cloud. I think he's a little older than cloud.
Speaker B
That's, that's the whole thing. It's just like you know all these, those guys are teenagers basically. You cast up a little. But, but yeah.
Speaker C
Anyway. Yeah. Second, that's from last week. We're not doing it anymore. That was from last. That was a week ago.
Speaker A
We already talked.
Speaker C
Get over it physically.
Speaker B
If it was young back in the Twilight era, it could have been like a squall. Leonard. Maybe you know they could.
Speaker C
We're going save it future one and we'll do Cast Young Edition.
Speaker B
Anything else you want to say about The Kojima reveal.
Speaker A
No, I just thought it was a, it was a cool event and I, I like, I don't know, I like watching those events. I like Nintendo directs. I like Sony State of plays. I like that Kojima Productions is now doing their own. Like, here's what's coming. I like all of it so much.
Speaker C
I think I respond well to pomp and circumstance too. Even if it's artificial. I'm always like, oh, look, this seems important.
Speaker B
How about that?
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Oh, yeah.
Speaker C
They're showing me the new phone. I gotta see the new phone. Show me the new phone.
Speaker A
I love the new phone events. I love them.
Speaker C
It's great though.
Speaker A
I really, really, really miss the stage presentation on the phone events.
Speaker C
Get somebody out in a turtleneck and show me the goddamn computer.
Speaker A
Because there's there like all of the, the splashy like drone shots of the, of the phone. It's like, okay, what I want is the best marketing moment that I saw in my adult life was when Steve Jobs pulled the. I'm. The, the Mac air out of the envelope.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
And like he's like, yeah, you know, I've got, I've actually got the Mac air here. And he went over to the podium and he picked up an envelope.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
And went. And people start going. And he unwraps the envelope and slides it out of the manila envelope. Like, can you imagine how much that guy screamed at people until it fit in that manila envelope?
Speaker B
Yeah, sure. Getting a custom made envelope envelope.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
He must have screamed until like people were like, like giving themselves diarrhea.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker C
It makes me wish that must have.
Speaker B
Screamed like someone made eye contact with Ellen DeGeneres.
Speaker C
I wish James Cameron writing an S and turning it into a dollar sign on a, on a whiteboard in a, in a, in a meeting was televised.
Speaker B
That'd be cool thing to say.
Speaker C
I would have loved to see it.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
I love those moments of a, of a pure sale.
Speaker C
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker A
Like if, if you're gonna do capitalism, at least, at least give us the pure moments of like somebody being like, got milk? And the room goes, oh, my God.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker C
Is that why I liked the movie air so much? Because I'm like, oh, it's the shoes at some level.
Speaker B
I mean. Yeah. It's like, you know, it's. That there isn't a. Like we've been marketed to do so much in our lives that we're now. Nostalgia for marketing.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
And so I think that was part of the genius of that movie is just like, oh, yeah, we all remember being Excited about Jordan sneakers and like, like looking at the ads for them and whatever. You know, even if you're too. I, I'm of the generation where I remember Michael Jordan being in the NBA as a kid and you know, remember like, like all those ads or whatever. But even if you're, you're too young for that, you like know about Jordan the brand.
Speaker C
Right.
Speaker B
So like, you know, it's like, like yeah, it's, it's weird, it's crazy.
Speaker A
I think that's. We love capitalism so much that that's why Mad Men was a success.
Speaker B
Sure.
Speaker A
You just want to see somebody be really good at their job and you want that job to be advertising.
Speaker C
Yeah. Cuz there's some mystique. You sort of bought into this, this, this, this thing that you're like, oh, whoever came up with Got milk? Or you know, Coca Cola Enjoy is a genius and just like some sweaty guy in an office probably just being like, I don't know, got me milk.
Speaker A
Probably just like that.
Speaker C
I don't know. I forgot to do something today. Should we talk more broadly about Greek mythology?
Speaker B
Yeah, I do, I do like how this discussion is going to lead like directly into like an athletic greens ad or something.
Speaker C
Us doing an ad?
Speaker B
For sure.
Speaker C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B
Let's talk about Greek myths in games. I mean like you know, Hades and Hades too. We obviously is our starting point, point here. But you know, I think kind of the, the apex of this is the Hades franchise and the God of War franchise. Yeah, it's just those, those are the, those are the two, the two big ones that seem to hit, hit the right balance of honoring the what's, what's. What's at the core, what's true, what's real about these in in the sense of like what's, what's established, you know, mythology in, in, in the, in this canon, but then also like, like in like expanding it, adding their own like specifics, remixing it where appropriate. I mean like, like and, and God of War obviously expands beyond the Greek myths to you know, mythology of, of uh, to Norse mythology as well.
Speaker C
Yeah, and like uh, and, and, and Hades.
Speaker B
Hades. I should also say when we go to the other aspects that you know, get. As you unlock additional weapons, there will be other aspects from, from other myths, from other, you know, cultures as well.
Speaker C
Oh, cool.
Speaker B
So that does that, that is a, that is an element in the first.
Speaker C
Game at least I do. So I've said this before, but I was so into Greek mythology as a kid that when honestly partly due to Probably Disney's Hercules, which is like a very sort of watered down, like, version of it. But that was probably my first exposure to the story of Hercules and obviously the Clumps.
Speaker B
Yeah, the Clumps too. Yeah, of course that was a lot of people's on, on ramp.
Speaker C
The clumps. I was like, what are they talking about? Who's this Hercules? I have to sort of then look into it, man. They should do another Clumps.
Speaker B
Ah, would I. Boy, would a new Clumps be good?
Speaker C
I think it might fix everything.
Speaker B
It could. Because. Could that be what, what, what makes things so good?
Speaker C
Get.
Speaker B
Gets Eddie Murphy back on track? I don't know.
Speaker C
Bunch of. The teaser. I can see the teaser right now. Everybody's sitting down for the table or. No, the grandpa is like dead probably at this point. So they're all at the funeral. Somebody rips ass at the funeral and then they all start doing it.
Speaker B
Yeah, I mean that feels like that would be a, that's a natural set piece if you, if you want that as your way into the, the new Clumps, the film. I think the thing is, you get. Eddie Murphy has recently done what he did. He did Axel F. And then he also did Coming to America.
Speaker C
That's right.
Speaker B
And he's coming.
Speaker C
He's reprising Donkey.
Speaker B
He's reprising Donkey and Shrek. So like he is returning to some, some old ip. I, I, you know, I think people have different opinions on these, but I wasn't like, particularly thrilled by either of those recent, you know, the Legacy sequels. You know, like, I, I don't, I mean, and so I don't know, do we, do we really think that, that, you know, a Clumps movie with Eddie Murphy at this stage in his career would be something that he would like, give his all, you know.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Like, or, or would it be the kind of a weird, like Amazon paycheck movie? That would be kind of a weird. Yeah, like, like not, not really. Like a, like an approximation of what you liked about the originals.
Speaker C
It would be, it would be cynical from the jump.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker C
It would have no ounce of joy.
Speaker B
There would be a bit of a, it would be a bit of a bummer. And so I would sound like implemented. And who do you, who would you, who would be. Do a new clump? Like, who would you trust to get to, to take over the Clumps franchise? You know, I don't know, but you.
Speaker C
Got to get like a, A Kiki Palmer clump would be pretty good.
Speaker B
I could see that. Yeah. Doing something like that.
Speaker C
I.
Speaker B
It's. It's. You'd have to. I guess the way is you'd have to be a Nutty professor first. Right. That would have to be your. Your on ramp before you get to the clumps.
Speaker C
Yeah, yeah. So it's.
Speaker B
The clumps are in Nutty professor one.
Speaker C
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B
And then Nutty professor two is the. Is so clumps focused.
Speaker C
Yes. Yeah, yeah. Meet the clumps is sort of. It's like. It's more about them than it is.
Speaker B
About the Nutty professor, about Sherman.
Speaker C
Then he takes the. The grandpa takes the serum and it makes him young and horny. Again.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
I think that a provocative clumps reboot or sequel would be a Black Box style production where Eddie Murphy still plays multiple characters, but he is wearing the same black leotard and no makeup for all of the characters. And it takes place inside of a black room.
Speaker C
I'd be interested in watching it.
Speaker B
That'd be fun.
Speaker C
Just to see how he gets to who he has to be.
Speaker B
Yeah. That is an acting exercise.
Speaker C
It'd be great. So, yeah, Disney circulating. And the clumps. The Clumps, of course, were my entry points into Greek mythology, but I actually have an earlier entry that I probably would have seen before. Even the Disney Hercules, which was Herc's Adventure. The video game Herc's Adventure.
Speaker B
You know what? Somehow in my list of Greek games, Greek mythology games, I missed Herc's Adventure. But I do remember Herc's adventure.
Speaker C
It's a PlayStation LucasArts game.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker C
Yeah. And I don't know how or why my brothers and I got like into that game, but we. I mean, it's funny. The game is funny. Yeah. So we just kind of liked that he was this like silly guy, silly big buff guy and enjoyed it. But like, I haven't. I hadn't thought about the game in like 30 years. Almost practically, probably like 27 years, if I'm being more accurate. But I hadn't thought about it until we started talking about this. But we must have rented it. I know we played it on the. There was like a PlayStation Underground demo disc that I had that had it on there or something. And then we would have rented the game at Hollywood Video and couldn't understand how to play or like what to do. But I had played enough of it that I was like, that game is now stuck in my brain forever. Yeah. Herc's Adventure. And then obviously Disney's Hercules would be in King in all the kingdom hearts. Games, I think. Yep. I think there he's in all of them.
Speaker A
Because of the Coliseum.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker A
I want to shout out that myths and gods are, are so prevalent in games that there has been a Fortnite season dedicated to Greek gods.
Speaker C
That's right.
Speaker A
It's called Myths and Mortals. It was from March 8, 2024 to May 24, 4th, 2024. So a little more than a year and a half ago. And in it, you had to fight against the gods on the Fortnite Island. You had to fight against Zeus, you had to fight against Hades and claim their powers as your own. And a lot of the weaponry was also, like, Greek God inspired. You could throw lightning bolts. You could. There were these chains that were called the Chains of Hades that you could whip people with. You had to do quests for Medusa, Another game where Medusa is in the game. And because of the way skins work in Fortnite, it is also one of the few games where you can play as Medusa when you are the Looper. Artemis was in the game. Cerberus was in the game. It was, I don't know, it was one of my favorite seasons. Extremely well balanced and incredible pois. So, you know, even Fortnite has done great gods.
Speaker B
Cerberus, the most famous dog.
Speaker C
We can't do this.
Speaker B
Why can't we do this?
Speaker C
We can't. Because I think it's an impossible question to answer.
Speaker B
Well, I, I mean, just like, I'm like, trying to think of.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Airbud. Sure.
Speaker C
Beethoven.
Speaker B
There's some re. There's some recency bias here, but, yeah, sure. I, I, I guess what, I guess what I'm thinking in terms of famous Clifford. Clifford's a good candidate. I mean, there's. You also got like a Marmaduke. You got like an od. Garfield's buddy.
Speaker C
What was Biden's dog's name? Bit everybody.
Speaker B
Oh, yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah. Bit the. Out of people. Like they, like, ban it from the White House or something. Or like people just couldn't be around it.
Speaker C
I think they gave him a cabinet position in the new administration.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker C
Cats outlawed.
Speaker B
There's Hachiko. You know that, right? The dog who waited for his, you.
Speaker C
Know, the, oh, yes.
Speaker B
For his owner. That, that famous dog inspired the Futurama episode. There's a Leica. Leica, sure. The, the rip. The first dog in space.
Speaker A
There's also Fenrir, who is both the motorcycle of Cloud, but also the dog of Norse mythology.
Speaker C
That's right. You know, sort of a Competing mythology dog.
Speaker A
Yeah, yeah. You got multiple mythology dogs.
Speaker B
Is you got the big dog?
Speaker C
Well, yeah, the big dog. The. I'm kind of bummed out. I think the big dog went the way we didn't want it to go. I looked into it recently. I was like, I don't know if this one's holding up.
Speaker A
I think Goofy is probably the most famous dog.
Speaker C
Oh, Goofy.
Speaker B
Goofy. Maybe it might be the. Is Goofy the most famous dog?
Speaker C
Goofy, Pluto, Snoopy.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker C
Oh, what?
Speaker B
Everyone forgets about Snoopy.
Speaker C
Snoopy's huge.
Speaker B
Snoopy's the most famous worldwide.
Speaker A
Yeah. Snoopy's the most.
Speaker C
You see him sleeping? Yeah.
Speaker B
He's so cute.
Speaker C
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What about Snoopy as a baby?
Speaker B
Cute.
Speaker C
That's good stuff. I love Snoopy as a baby, but Cerberus, you. I think you recently said that the thing you like about Cerberus is that he has three heads.
Speaker B
I think it's cool that he has three heads. I mean, it's kind of like a.
Speaker C
Cool.
Speaker B
It's an obvious, you know, observation. It's the core element of Cerberus was make Cerberus Cerberus. But having three different heads is cool.
Speaker C
It's the same. It's the same as thinking Austin Butler is good because he's, like, handsome and good.
Speaker B
I'm a dumb guy.
Speaker C
Hey, this guy's good. I like him because he's handsome.
Speaker B
Simple man. Rochelle, I feel like you're the dog authority here. Is the dog whisperer. Growing up in a home with 13 dogs. Do you have a. Do you have a candidate for most famous dog? Who would you think of who's top of mind for you?
Speaker D
Wait, did you guys say Scooby Doo?
Speaker B
We did not say Scooby Doo. That's a good candidate date.
Speaker C
Guys, should we play Family Feud?
Speaker A
Good answer. Good answer.
Speaker B
That's some good answers.
Speaker A
Answer.
Speaker C
Scooby Doo is good.
Speaker B
Would fill out the four of us. Who would fill out our team?
Speaker C
We need.
Speaker B
We need one more.
Speaker C
We need five, I think.
Speaker B
I think it's five for Family Feud.
Speaker C
Yeah, I guess the Resident Evil 4 merchant or something.
Speaker A
I got to be on Family Feud once, and it was a very weird experience.
Speaker B
What was your. What. What was the context of it?
Speaker A
So it was family. Family Feud was celebrity. Family Feud.
Speaker B
Got it.
Speaker A
And Drew Carey chose his family from his, like, friends and co workers. And so I was in Drew's family, and I think actually we went up against Kevin Nealon's team.
Speaker B
Wow.
Speaker A
It's been a. It's been a minute.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
And and it was surprisingly stressful. Even though you're like, well, I don't give. Re. Really give a shit about any of this.
Speaker C
Yeah. Was it Steve Harvey? Harvey.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker C
Oh, man.
Speaker A
Steve Harvey.
Speaker C
Steve Harvey. Kevin Nealon, Drew Carey. Everybody else that was there, I would have been laughing my ass out. It was good stuff.
Speaker D
It was.
Speaker A
It was a. It was wild, though, to go up and press the button and be like, yeah. Oh, God, what if I press this too slowly?
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
And then my team is disappointed in me.
Speaker B
Right, right.
Speaker C
I'd rather press it too slowly than say something that makes Steve Harvey lose his mind. You've got a.
Speaker B
Like. Like. Like. Because during the WGA strike. I know. Very lucky to get to know the. The Jeopardy. Writing staff. And it was interesting talking to them about, like. Because quiz show laws exist and. And so game shows are very strictly policed. I guess one of the only things that's still regulated. But. But, like, there's, like, things. My understanding is there's things like the host can't really talk to you backstage or anything like that. Right. It's like. Like, you don't. You don't talk to them until you're out there, because they can't be like, oh, well, then there's the suggestion that they were maybe coaching you, telling you what the answers. The questions are going to be, what the answers could be, you know, whatever. Like. Like, it's. It's all got to be above board to that degree. Was. Was your experience, like, was that part of the stress? It felt like a. I mean, it did feel stringent.
Speaker A
It. It was just very formal, but also not incredibly. Like there was an assumption that you knew what you were doing.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker A
Like, there wasn't like, anybody who came over and explained the rules of Family Feud to you, you just for it.
Speaker C
Push the button and say some. Just get out there and have a fun time.
Speaker A
Yeah. I don't know. It was. It was. I've never been on any other game shows, and that was a very weird. We lost. We.
Speaker C
We lost to the neand.
Speaker A
But it was still a good time.
Speaker B
Growing up in Southern California, Matt, I don't know if you ever experienced this, but we, like, for school, as part of school fundraisers, we would sometimes. And this happened in Boy Scouts too, do the. The whole. Because if you're in a studio audience, you get paid per head. And so they'd be. They like, hey, let's take our. Let's take this whole. The whole middle school over to a. A taping of something. We're gonna get Some money for everyone who's in the audience. And then that will be used to, like, you know, make sure the school has an art department or something. So, so, like, like, like, you know, we would. I went to a, One of those was. Was going to a Family Feud taping when years old or something like that. And it was interesting to experience for me, like, that was. I think that was maybe my first TV taping. Just seeing what, how they did during the downtime and just seeing like the warm up guy come out and me being like, this guy's great. He's. He's so. He's being funny, you know, like, like not, not realizing that was part of the experience.
Speaker C
You know, I used to, I used to go to like, tapings like, for fun, like, just like, you know, in college or whatever. And then the first, like, comedy, like, show taping that I went to, the. The warm up comic was the late Brody Stevens.
Speaker B
Oh, my God. One of the funniest.
Speaker C
One of the funniest people I've ever seen in my fucking life. That then I, like, got my family to come with me. I was like, we have to see this guy. You guys are going to lose it. And he wouldn't stop playing, like, the drums on, like, the back of my mom's chair, and she was getting so scared. He used to do this thing where he'd just like have drumsticks and he have the music play. Really? He's just like, big, like, you know, he was like, energy. Just a big energy. Positive energy, Positive push. Yes. You got it. And he would like, like, guess he would tell you your high school's baseball team's name. He was so funny. I loved seeing him around so much. And then I would see him and I'd see Jimmy Pardo at Conan and.
Speaker B
Oh, man, Pardo. So one of the, One of the great. I remember, I remember I wrote for At Midnight for many years. Years, and this old Comedy Central show and panel show disguised as a game show. And Brody Stevens for a time was the warm up guy, warm up comic. And it was just like, man, this guy's so fun.
Speaker C
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker B
And it's, it's. It's such. I. I was a warm up. I did warm up one day of my, of my life that was. And it was like the hardest day I ever worked. I was like, I can't. These guys are champions.
Speaker C
It's so. Because then it's. It's for hours.
Speaker B
It's for hours. You've got to be pure. You just got to get people's energy up and you're just riffing. You're just go. You're just like. We're like, you know, a lot of it is just doing crowd work and.
Speaker C
There are people that are bad at it. There are people that like that. You go and you're just like, oh, this, this, this experience is miserable for everybody.
Speaker B
This is deflating the audience. This is bringing everyone's energy down. It's having the opposite effect. Yeah, but no, he was, he was so good at it.
Speaker C
The, the best. So funny.
Speaker B
One, One quick Brody Stevens thing I remember from a taping was there was a time there was like a moment when the audience had to be, like, quiet for something. It was like we just had to be quiet for this. Like, everyone. Very quiet. Focus in Brody Stevens dot com.
Speaker C
There's nobody. There will never be anybody ever like him ever again. He was a true. Just magic man. I was wearing a, I was wearing a. The, the, the record label Sub Pop. I was wearing a hat that said Sub Pop on it. I got at the Seattle airport or whatever. Whatever. And he comes into the old Yearwolf office one day wearing a Sub Pop T shirt. And he goes, look at us, the Sub Pop brothers.
Speaker A
So good.
Speaker C
The best. Yeah. It's just. Very funny guy. Yeah. Who everybody misses. It was a great guy. Back to. Back to Greek mythology for a second.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker C
I wanted. I feel like we should have got this out there real quick.
Speaker A
What does everybody have a favorite, Favorite Greek God or favorite.
Speaker B
Favorite Greek myth?
Speaker A
Greek myth game. What do you. What are you looking for here? Favorite what? Ice cream cookie.
Speaker C
What's everybody's favorite? Just, I guess, like favorite. Yeah, maybe favorite Greek myth or favorite. Just like Greek God in general.
Speaker B
This is a great question. I, I mean, like, the, the, the. There's so sprawling. There's so many. I'm just. I've always been fascinated by, like, I, I like the. I like the word that. Tantalize comes from tantalus. And I like the Tantalus. Like, I just like, I, I, I guess, I guess I. You were talking Hades. I do like a lot of the ironic punishments. I just think that's like a really interesting thing. Yeah, but you know, Tantalus being punished in the sense of like, having an. A thirst that never goes away. And then a pool of water. And then every time he gets closer, it shrinks.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
A lot of water stuff that's up first off. That would suck.
Speaker C
Y.
Speaker B
Hate for that to be my, my torment. Give me that boulder to push up any day. But yeah, I I. But I guess also, like. Like, Sisyphus, who I just alluded to is just, like, pretty. Pretty good. My favorite kind of a metaphor for life.
Speaker A
My favorite part about Sisyphus is that his punishment was because he was smarter than the gods.
Speaker B
Yes. Right.
Speaker A
Like. Like, what's great about him as a. As a story is it is how you feel in most workplaces. Like, if you're smarter than your boss, you're punished.
Speaker B
Punished, Right.
Speaker A
You know, like, if you're. And that's not my experience in my current job, but I've had jobs in the past where it's like, oh, wow, look at you. You. You really. You fix the header and footer in that. How about you do that for all the documents?
Speaker B
Right?
Speaker A
And it's like, what the. Like, that is such a nice window into the experience of being better than management and then being punished for being better than management. Oh. Oh, you. You. You tricked him. Hades. How about you roll this rock forever?
Speaker C
Don't you do that again. Okay.
Speaker A
You.
Speaker C
I think Poseidon's pretty tight.
Speaker B
Poseidon's dope.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
The whole ocean having water as your domain is pretty good.
Speaker C
That's pretty sick.
Speaker B
Yeah, it's.
Speaker A
We're so close with the Marvel movies to having just, like, Greek God movies. It's a shame we don't just have straight up. Yeah, Greek God movies, like, where you have like, the solo Zeus movie and then you see him in action in a different story. Story.
Speaker B
I wonder. You know, we got the. We got the Christopher Nolan Odyssey coming up, so maybe we'll see. We'll start to see that story.
Speaker C
Come back a little bit.
Speaker A
Wait, give me that broth. Yeah, I want that stew.
Speaker B
Give me that thick bearded Matt Damon. That's what I'm looking forward.
Speaker C
Yeah. Yeah, man, that's gonna be good.
Speaker A
What about you, Matt?
Speaker C
Poseidon, of course. I guess I like the sort of like the. I'm kind of basic like that. Like, I think Hades is, like. Hades is like a cool, interesting. You know, he's bad, but he's got domain over hell.
Speaker A
Yep.
Speaker C
Kind of the opposite of water.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
Yep. I love Medusa. Medusa's my favorite.
Speaker B
Yeah, this is cool.
Speaker C
Die. Nice is kind of like a party. Party animal. Yeah.
Speaker B
You know, that's. That's very fun.
Speaker A
How wild a bunch of grapes to. To come up with these stories thousands of years ago and for this to still be, like, valid.
Speaker C
It kind of goes hard. Like, it's like. Some of it's extremely tight. There's, like some crazy, crazy bad stuff.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker C
Too but like, every sort of story like that. But it's interesting that, like, I guess when I was a kid, I didn't realize this. That, like, at this point, at some point, this was religion until Christianity came around or something. So, like, it. Like, it supplanted, you know. You know, Christianity comes around like, oh, like, we don't believe this anymore. This is not true. But for a time or who knows how long, this was, like, what people believed. And I think it's just interesting that it could. If the stories were this good, man, I might be down. You might catch me in a fucking church. If the stories were this good.
Speaker A
Christianity is so fascinating the way that its memetic qualities function because it. It does really go in and take over a ton of different. Like, same thing happens to the Vikings, right? The Vikings have their own fucking pantheon of gods and their. Their own stories. Stories. And then Christianity moves in and they're all like, oh, wow, Thor's hammer kind of looks like a cross. We could just extend our little necklace a little bit longer, and now. Now it's across. Like it's. It's. I don't know. It's fascinating because it. You don't know what it is about the story that makes it certainly. It seems like a simpler story than. Oh, man. And then there's this guy who's a bull in the middle of a maze.
Speaker C
Yeah, right.
Speaker A
Like, it's.
Speaker C
Oh, the Minotaur is cool too. Yeah.
Speaker A
But, like, it's like.
Speaker C
No, no.
Speaker A
There's a guy, he preaches peace, and then he's killed by the government. Yeah, like, it's. It's weird that that's like the story that, like, really hooked everybody when the other stories are so flashy. Loki turned into a horse, and he. Another horse.
Speaker B
Yes. Right.
Speaker C
I gotta see what that's like. I gotta turn into one real quick.
Speaker B
That I. I'm always. Anytime there's something like that of just like. Like, I got tricked because a God turned into an ox and I got fucked by the ox. I was like, wait a minute, hold on. Wait a minute.
Speaker C
Yeah, so wait, you were just. You were there to get.
Speaker B
I was there to have sex with him. A regular ox. I didn't realize it was a God in disguise. Pretty deceptive.
Speaker A
Happened with Zeus. Doesn't he turn into a swan?
Speaker C
Yeah, there's a lot of that. There's like that. I believe that there's kind of like a lot of. Like a lot of these guys were like, extremely horny guys.
Speaker B
Well, that's the other thing. The Greek myths being super duper horny is fun, and that's. It's fun that Hades leans into it. I mean, the God of War series would acknowledge that as well, you know.
Speaker A
I mean, God of War is horny.
Speaker B
It's pretty horny.
Speaker A
You press X to. To thump. You press triangle to make her go, ooh. I think you press circle to make the, The. The candle on the. On the table go bonk.
Speaker C
I think the. The games. The games have sex in them, but I don't think they're horny. They're.
Speaker B
They're sort of like, yeah, that's interesting. They got boobs and shocking, but they're not. Yeah, but they're not like any sort of eroticism.
Speaker A
It's. He. He approaches sex with a woman the way you would moving a table into a different room.
Speaker B
Yes. Yeah.
Speaker C
Yes. Yeah. And he's such an angry guy, and he's like, I got to get this. This rage out somehow. I got. I got to it out of myself, I guess. I'm still pissed it didn't work. And he goes on.
Speaker B
Kills. Kills a bunch of guys.
Speaker C
Yeah. And he screams from the ground up, which is really. Which is awesome. Which is really cool.
Speaker B
While we're talking about Medusa, Medusas are a presence in Castlevania. And that's a, That's a. You know, there's definitely some Greek myth stuff that makes its way into the Castlevania franchise. But you mentioned this earlier, Heather. For me, my way in was Kid Icarus on nes. That was the first time I felt like I saw this really acknowledged in depth depth. And that one is just so. It's so like light and silly and it doesn't have, like. I don't think Palutena is an actual God. I think that's just, you know, like, Medusa is a presence in it, but there's also like the Eggplant wizard, you know, and I always wish that franchise had more legs because I do like the original you revisited now in an emulator. And it's like, okay, this is maybe better. In my memory, this isn't like as fleshed out as like a Metroid or something like that. This doesn't. This. This is a little bit more linear than that. That. So the labyrinth levels are. Have a little bit more depth to them. But there's. There's. There's a. There's not a lot of, like, there's. There's not a ton to this game, and some of it is a little bit annoying. Some of the platforming in particular the final level of that game is really fun because it is just like once you eventually get equipped with everything, you get all the. And then you go to that final level and it just is basically a shot schmup. You're just going through, you know, the continuous scrolling thing and then, you know, like beating the big boss at the end, which I can't remember. Is it a big Medusa? Who the is the final boss of Kid Icarus? Either way, Eggplant wizard. No, it's not an eggplant wizard. There are a lot of eggplant wizards in the game. But it's not a big eggplant wizard. It's a big something that. I think it might be a big Medusa or a big centaur or something you shoot in the eye. But that, that game I always felt was. Was really, really fun. And then when they brought, you know, pit back for Smash Brothers, I love that, that. I do wish the Icarus game that came out for the DS Kid Icarus uprising. Yeah, I wish that was. Was that DS or 3Ds? 3Ds? Yeah, 3Ds. I wish that one was a little bit more compelling, had a little bit more to it. But I, I was glad they at least tried something with the franchise again.
Speaker A
There's an Assassin's Creed game that is Assassin's Creed Creed Odyssey, which is a major investigation of the Greek gods and the Greek myths and, and Sparta and ancient Greece. I have not dabbled in it. I keep waiting for the moment. Like, I am such the target audience for the meme of like, how often do you think about ancient Rome? Yeah, like, I'm so ready to be interested in ancient Rome, but the only ancient Rome book I have, I've read is Daily Life in Ancient Rome, which is just like a textbook book of, of like, what happened. Yeah, but like that the famous book series, the Rise and Fall of Ancient Rome. Like all of these things are so. They're right there. I just need to be excited and interested in, in, in engaging with it because as it is, I read like one Viking history book a month.
Speaker C
Right.
Speaker A
So like, I. But.
Speaker C
And so you could, you could get there.
Speaker A
I could get there, but. And it's really neat also how much. Much of the Viking world is like walking over the ruins of Rome and how close Rome was to the. The Viking era. Because it's like, starts in like 800, 900. So like now we view, we view those ruins as like, wow, those are so old. But this is more like who built these Roads. Yeah, you know, like there are a lot of roads everywhere. Who built these roads?
Speaker C
Right.
Speaker A
That's. That's a different fascinating way to engage with history as like a mystery instead of like an investigation. Like the difference between those two things.
Speaker C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A
It seems semantic, but I feel like it's like now you would dig a hole and you'd be like, oh, this. This bead changes our relationship to what we thought was going on in this region. But at the time, people would be like, how this beat get here?
Speaker C
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B
It was interesting to think about.
Speaker C
Yeah, yeah. I.
Speaker B
A game that I want to shout out, which is both, which is pretty recent. 2021 it came out and it was, you know, one of my favorite games of that year. It was originally a Skyrim mod that got turned into a full game called the Forgotten City. This game was set. Is set in. It's set in a, like a Roman sort of ruins sort of time. So I guess it's not exactly Greek myth, but it does have a lot of that because. So the. The way the game is set up that there is a thing established called the Golden Rule. And what that means is basically equal punishment. So everyone is punished for any sort of crime. And as such, basically, like, like society is so fragile because it's just like. Like the. The again, if you're just gonna. Gonna punish everybody, it's. It's. Things are completely unsustainable sustainable. So basically what you're doing is you're going through this. This sort of time loop thing and there's a bunch of individuals where. Who are gold, who are like golden statues. I'm sorry, there's a bunch of golden statues there. And basically if one person commits a sin in the society, everyone gets turned into golden statues and the time loop restarts. But what's really interesting about this game is as it progresses and I think the. I found the ending so super duper satisfied, it starts to dig into like, like, like first off, you figure out what the mystery. You figure out that like one guy who seems like benevolent is actually like this. This. This evil over, you know, overseer who's engineered this whole society basically for his own hedonistic pleasures. If you figure out how to get to the good ending, the canon ending, you get a bunch of context in terms of like, where what? First off, it fully explains everything that's happening, which is great because that doesn't always happen in a game like this. But then also it goes through Roman myths and then takes that back to how so much of that is owed to Greek myth, which itself is owed to Egyptian myth, which is also owned to Sumerian myths. And so it just like basically stacks all these things on top of each other and just sort of like directly explains the origins. And all these things were basically, you know, taken from one society to the next and, and kind of reappropriated and remixed for everyone's own design until they, they both informed, but also were shaped to fit the, the social wars of that particular culture. And it's, it's just an awesome ending and it's a, it's got a great little epilogue. It's, it's a really, really satisfying game that is just, just got a great story to it and, and does a great job of just like really digging into just what's interesting about the core of all of these. These shared myths.
Speaker C
Interesting.
Speaker B
I remember, I love that game.
Speaker C
I remember when that game. Yeah. Was new. You, you talked about it, being interested in it. I'll have to check it out.
Speaker A
If you guys could time travel to any ancient time with like a full backpack of antibiotics etc and, and you.
Speaker B
A gun.
Speaker A
You got a gun.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
And you got to spend, you got to spend one week there. And you were, you were, you have enough safety equipment. Equipment and some kind of universal translator mechanic.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
What arrow would you want to be dropped?
Speaker B
So we're talking human history. We're not talking like, you know, I got to see some dinosaurs.
Speaker A
No, human history.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker A
Human history.
Speaker B
They would like to see some dinosaurs.
Speaker A
What era of civilization?
Speaker C
You're putting an interesting little space in between those.
Speaker B
I don't know.
Speaker C
You're having a little fun. Yeah.
Speaker B
Why not think about dino? And then it was like I had the sword, the end of it.
Speaker A
Have there ever been dinosaur swords? Swords?
Speaker B
Dino swords. Jesus Christ.
Speaker C
We have to, we have to cut this out. It's too, it's simply too good of an idea to put in a podcast. It cannot be in the show.
Speaker B
That's so good.
Speaker C
We got to clip this out and mail it to ourselves. That's yours. Obviously. We get a piece. But it's like, get ready to be the richest person on earth.
Speaker B
Are these Reptilians blades or are these like sort of like swords that are wielded by dinosaurs?
Speaker A
Well, either, either it's blades wielded by dinosaurs or it's blades infused with dinosaur power. So you T. Rex blade is like a big like Z hander 2. Two handed blade or you can have like little, little nimble Dyus. Like those are dinosaurs.
Speaker C
A big spiked one. Like a What's it called?
Speaker A
Segosaurus.
Speaker C
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A
You get that Segor.
Speaker C
It's. Here's the thing.
Speaker A
Sortus.
Speaker C
They're all good.
Speaker A
Oh man.
Speaker B
You got, got the, the three bladed triceratops sword.
Speaker A
Tyrannosaurus Rex.
Speaker B
Tyrannosaurus Rex is really good.
Speaker C
This is good.
Speaker B
Brontosaurus. Just like a huge granite.
Speaker C
Do we call the president of Hollywood or something? Like how do we.
Speaker A
This should be made?
Speaker C
It's too good of an idea.
Speaker B
Really good.
Speaker A
Dinosaurs.
Speaker B
Dinosaurs.
Speaker A
It has to exist. I should google it.
Speaker B
We should end the episode. Go make these. I, I, yeah, it's, it's okay. We, let's, let's answer Heather's question. Going back in time, anytime in human history, imagine we're going to be safe and we just get to experience it. Boy.
Speaker C
Well, the stuff that I would want to go see, you have to then suppose is real, right?
Speaker B
Sure. Like guys that exist dinosaurs is real.
Speaker C
And honestly it's about as good as I thought.
Speaker B
Yeah, that looks pretty good.
Speaker C
It's pretty good.
Speaker A
Dinosaurs looks like a, like a Ninja Turtles knockoff almost. It's got, it's got five dinosaurs all in different. What I like about this is they're in different armor. You've got like, you've got like a Roman gladiator dinosaur but you've also got like a medieval dinosaur. You have like a karate dinosaur. Like it's, I dig that.
Speaker B
It's, it's really good.
Speaker C
We were exactly right to be as hyped about the idea as we were. Because it's a great idea.
Speaker B
It is a really good idea.
Speaker A
Dinosaurs. Republishing the 1990s Comic book adventures of the Dinosaurs Created by international comic artist and writer Tim Perkins. It's a black and white all ages comic. Yeah. It exists. It exists. Dinosaur of swords.
Speaker B
I am going to pick a something that's maybe too recent but I would love to go back and experience what it was like at NASA or and, or maybe maybe even more so to experience what it was like at the Soviet space program in the early days of the space race to see what that was like to just like sort of be in that, in that facility facility and be in one of those facilities and just see how everyone brainstorming and engineering a lot of that happening pre computers in the very, very early computing age. I would be fascinated to see what that process was like.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
There's also a Dinosaurs video game.
Speaker C
Oh my God. Wow. Yeah. Wow. I guess I would go back, I don't know, the 90s or something.
Speaker B
Yeah, 90s is a good answer.
Speaker A
I. I like why I didn't get.
Speaker C
To be an adult in the 90s. It'd be interesting to experience the time that I lived through.
Speaker B
That would be interesting to be an adult in the period when you were a kid.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Like, what would it be like to be a. To be fully grown in, like, 1990?
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
It's a lot of smoking indoors, man.
Speaker B
Sounds good. I'm in.
Speaker C
I like, do. It is kind of crazy to me to think that. I do remember restaurants where you could smoke. Yet at the restaurant kind of seems like it was, like, before my time, and it simply was not like you could just do it.
Speaker B
Yeah. Me being. Me going back in time as a full adult in the 1990s, knowing what I know now, and then 10 years later, buying a ticket to get on United 93.
Speaker C
Isn't that the one that, like, lands okay?
Speaker A
No, no, the one where they have to charge the cops.
Speaker C
Cockpit. Oh, that's right.
Speaker A
Supposedly.
Speaker B
Heather, what's your answer?
Speaker A
I like your answer, Wager, because I like the idea of being in a room where they're like, I think we just need to use tape.
Speaker B
Yeah, right.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Like, there. There were so many choices where it was like, well, we don't have time. Pencils and tape, everybody. Pencils and tape. I do think my answer would be. I'd be way too scared to go to vine cake times. I'd be terrified.
Speaker B
I would.
Speaker A
I would just. I don't think I could do it.
Speaker C
No, I do.
Speaker A
I do think it would be interesting to go to.
Speaker C
Not a whole lot of places. I could go back.
Speaker B
I could go anywhere.
Speaker A
I do think it would be interesting to go to ancient Rome just to be like, how clean was it? Is my. My most. Like, my biggest curiosity is there are varying scales of litter in cities currently on Earth. Right. Like, Tokyo is an extremely clean city. Singapore an extremely clean city from what I can see on Tik Tok.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Los Angeles, filthy city.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
You know, and. And I think LA is probably somewhere in the middle on cities. I want to know if ancient Roman cities were, like, clean, because also, there's not a ton of plastic and boxes. And so, like, what would make the city dirty other than human?
Speaker C
Well, I was gonna say, yeah, we.
Speaker B
Do know that is going a long way.
Speaker C
They wiped their asses with communal sponge.
Speaker B
That's the thing that is in forgotten city. Yeah, right. Yeah.
Speaker A
Right. But otherwise, streets must have been pretty clean, right?
Speaker C
I don't care how clean the streets are if everybody's got shitty asses with other people's in it Nasty.
Speaker B
I would one thing I would, I would just be interested in because you I'm a, I'm not the, the, the tallest man I know but I'm a pretty big guy. I'm, I'm 61 or you know, what was 186 centimeters. It would be interesting because I think basically any time prior to the 20th century I would just be like pretty much the biggest guy in any society.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
So that'd be kind of fun to go and just be like a, a circus freight.
Speaker C
You'd be like that really tall guy from mother three.
Speaker B
Yeah yeah. Huge.
Speaker C
This tall guy.
Speaker B
Average height for men was like five foot three or something like that. Crazy.
Speaker C
I would have been a king.
Speaker A
Even even I would be like, I would have been like the tallest woman.
Speaker B
We would all be pretty like on, we would all be big. We'd all be on the tall side.
Speaker A
Wow.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
It's crazy to think about.
Speaker C
Oh man. Take me back.
Speaker B
I, I, I, I feel like we should shout out because you talked about Persona. Heather. Persona is a game that has like a of lot lot of you know, Greek like God elements like you know, Hermes, Artemis like show up in Persona in the Persona series F Final Fantasy series. The same sort of thing. There's a lot of like you like some of those same sort of references are are used in summons. So this is a thing that does happen and things and, and it it, it does happen in in in a lot of games even if it's just like kind of borrowed for borrowed names or whatever. But I do want to shout out shout out a couple of more games that that maybe just I played. But the Heroes of Might and Magic series used to have a lot of mythological units in them. They would have like, like those were these were these tactical tactical strategy games, these small skirmish battles and then also mixed with some grand strategy, some cities building elements. But they were, they were really fun. But yeah, they would have like Pegasuses in them and you know like they would, there would be a bunch of pigasi. I guess there'd be a bunch of those sorts of like things come pulled from Greek mythology. But another game that I I played some of and I did enjoy when I was looking for Diablo Clones is Titan Quest. A Titan Quest was a basically just like another Diablo but it used GRE like the the, the sort of Greek pastiche.
Speaker A
I came up with a joke for you guys.
Speaker B
Yeah, go for it.
Speaker C
You were really excited about it. When I saw, I saw you realize.
Speaker A
It, I was like oh, I think this is A is their format.
Speaker C
Okay.
Speaker A
What. What do you call a horse that looks like he's just done something wrong?
Speaker B
I don't know.
Speaker C
What do you want to call him?
Speaker A
Yeah, Pegasus.
Speaker B
Pretty good.
Speaker C
That is pretty good. I do like it. I like it a lot. Good job, Heather.
Speaker A
Thank you.
Speaker B
Winged horse is cool. Is Pegasus cooler than unicorn?
Speaker A
No.
Speaker B
You like unicorn more.
Speaker A
Unicorn's the best horse.
Speaker C
All.
Speaker B
Why is unicorn the best horse? Horse.
Speaker A
I'm sorry.
Speaker B
Why is unicorn the best horse?
Speaker A
Why is unicorn the best horse?
Speaker C
Yeah, I don't think it's as good as Pegasus.
Speaker B
I like Pegasus. Got wings.
Speaker A
Well, that's because you're men.
Speaker C
Oh, interesting.
Speaker A
The. The. The unicorn is specifically like a. A being that is. That is related to the female divine. Like. Like the. The unicorn appears to mate maidens, guides maidens, protects maidens, and is generally hunted by men, but it's also like a being. There's a phrase in the book the Last Unicorn that I. I'm so fixated on, which is a. That they're talking to a unicorn. And the unicorn's like, I don't know what regret is. And I was like, they can talk. The unicorns can talk?
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Wow.
Speaker C
I didn't know about that. I can maybe have to change my answer.
Speaker A
Unicorns can talk. They can, like, grant wish wishes.
Speaker C
Wishes.
Speaker A
Yep. They're. They're like. They are gods. They're the. The horse God is the unicorn, whereas Pegasus is a mount.
Speaker B
That's a good case. It's a strong argument. I do like that there's a bunch of animals that are just like. Or a bunch of mythological creatures. They're just like a bunch of animals crammed together.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
That's really cool.
Speaker C
Yeah. Yeah, I like that a centaur is.
Speaker B
Just a guy, kind of a guy with, like, a horse body. That's pretty good.
Speaker A
Good Mermaid.
Speaker C
Mermaid good, too.
Speaker A
What if you just jam a fish on the end of a woman?
Speaker C
Jam. I have to shout out God of War 2 as my favorite. God of war from. From the earlier series. God of War 3, unbelievable. Great game. But God of War 2, you get to kill. As with all the games, you get to kill a bunch of gods, but you get to, like, take their. And use their stuff and, like, use their, like, abilities against them. And I just think, like, you get wings, you get to become fast. You get a Medusa head and stuff like that. It rocks. It's like. It's just. It's really, really cool.
Speaker A
The Mega man approach.
Speaker B
Mega man form.
Speaker C
It is.
Speaker B
The Mega man endures for a reason.
Speaker C
It's great. And I.
Speaker B
Very satisfying.
Speaker C
I love it.
Speaker B
Oh, you using this against me? Well, now I'mma use it.
Speaker C
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Speaker B
Mine.
Speaker C
Now it's mine. Give me that. That. Yeah.
Speaker B
Get equipped with bubble lead. Here we go. Bubble lead. Is it bubble lead or bubble lead? Well, you know, I've never heard it said aloud.
Speaker C
We'll have to ask Mega Man.
Speaker A
I'm just thinking about unicorns now and how cool they are. There's a. There's a moment in the Last Unicorn, the film where. Which is like a 1970s film that a lot of the animators went forward and became Studio Ghibli.
Speaker C
Oh.
Speaker A
But this unicorn shows up to this woman and she's like in her 30s, I think maybe she's 20s, nine. And she is so upset. She's like, how could you come to me now when I am old? You're supposed to appear to me when I'm a young woman, when I have all the promise, and how dare you come to me now? And the unicorn's like, I'm sorry, I don't know anything about anything.
Speaker C
I'm just a horse.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker C
Can they have wings too, though?
Speaker A
I'm sure that they can, but that's sort of a corrupted modern unicorn. Yeah. I have the. I have a T shirt of the painting. That is the unicorn and the lion with the woman in the middle. And the unicorn's just a unicorn. No wings.
Speaker C
No wings. Wow. Okay.
Speaker B
Guess it's nice that our lifespans are longer, huh? I mean, just like, you know, back in the day used to be we thing we were talking about earlier. Just like people used to die, so y. So much younger.
Speaker C
I guess it's true.
Speaker A
That's the other thing. We. For our age, we'd probably look so young compared to everybody.
Speaker B
Right?
Speaker A
Because they. They not drinking any water. They have like, they've been out in the sun 24 7. They're like, we would look geyser super tall.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker A
Very healthy young versions of old people.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker A
Be confusing.
Speaker C
What was potable water like back then? Probably not. Couldn't really drink water.
Speaker A
Well, you dip the brush in the vinegar, you wipe your butt with it, and then you drink from it.
Speaker C
And then you. The particles cut out, like kill the poison in the water.
Speaker B
We're saying all this and then. Yeah. You know, actually go back. Going back and talking time and everyone just like, what's up, fat ass fat? As compared to you.
Speaker C
You look like a little bitch. What the hell? Let's. Let's do a segment.
Speaker B
Let's seg it Up.
Speaker C
It's I, I segment.
Speaker B
Did you do that before?
Speaker A
I probably did.
Speaker C
Let's seg it up.
Speaker A
Let's seg it up.
Speaker C
Just kind of nothing. Nothing inherently wrong with him, but somehow tough.
Speaker A
Seg it up.
Speaker C
We're talking Greek mythology. We're talking about games that feature them. It's time for pixel chart. We're gonna, we're gonna try to see if we can peg down the. The God of War game with the most, you know, with the most sales. We're. I have a.
Speaker B
Okay, there's eight.
Speaker A
There's eight.
Speaker C
Eight released God of War games. I'm not counting the collections or anything like that. So these are all the standalone titles of the game. So we can.
Speaker B
We're just trying to guess in order. How are. We do. How are we doing this?
Speaker C
Yeah, I guess just like try to guess them in order. I know there's going to be a couple. You guys don't remember. So I can, I can honestly. I can provide you with the bottom three.
Speaker A
I can guess a bottom three.
Speaker C
Yeah. Okay.
Speaker A
You probably at. Got a war for the PSP right down there at the bottom.
Speaker C
The second entry in the God of war PSP games, God of war, ghost of Sparta is number eight. Yes. With 1.2 million units. Not nothing.
Speaker B
There was also God more than there were virtual boys. Was it. Was the subtitle God of War? Was it Chains of Olympus? Is that the other PSP one?
Speaker C
Yeah. Chains of Olympus is number six on the list at a surprising, surprisingly whopping 3.3 million units.
Speaker B
I'm going to also guess towards the bottom is God of War Ascension.
Speaker C
Yes. Number. That's number seven with 3 million units. So that's the bottom three. The top five is sort of like the, the big five, but they're. Some of. It's interesting. It's interesting what has happened with.
Speaker B
Okay. Working our way up from the bottom. I guess that's. That's how we're doing this.
Speaker C
Sure.
Speaker B
I feel like. Let's see, we had. We basically are dealing with. We got. We're going to populate the rest of this list with 1, 2, 3. The God of War remake and then God of War Ragnarok. Right. Those are the five games left. Boy. I would guess God of War 3 was number five.
Speaker C
It's. You know what, it's interesting. It's actually number three.
Speaker B
Wow.
Speaker C
It's. It's number three with 7.6 million units. But you have to remember this is the first. This is the first entry of these games on the PlayStation 3, which is now a digital digital library also. Right.
Speaker B
I forgot that God of War 3 was. Was on PS3.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
Yes, you're right.
Speaker A
Okay, so then I would put God of War 2 at number 5.
Speaker C
Number 2 is at number 5 with 4.2 million units.
Speaker A
So then I would go above that would be.
Speaker B
I think it's original. Be original God of war.
Speaker C
Right, PS2 number three. Yeah. Number four is the original God of war with 4.6 million units. That's a lot.
Speaker B
And then. So two, two and one are just Ragnarok and God of War.
Speaker C
Yes. Right. The. With, I would say an astronomical leap up. Yeah, it's God of War. Yeah. Ragnarok, number two with 15 million units. Pretty stiff, pretty steep jump upward. Wow. And then number one, 2018 with 23.5 million units.
Speaker A
Wow.
Speaker B
I was gonna try to guess the year and my dumb ass was gonna say 2016. So I'm glad I didn't. I'm glad you said God of War remake. 2018.
Speaker C
2018.
Speaker B
Pretty recent.
Speaker C
Honestly. Not that long ago.
Speaker B
Not that long ago.
Speaker C
And. But like, like, just. It's astounding to me, the jump up. And you have to then just imagine they. They added those games to PC. So I don't think these are necessarily counting those sales. Yeah, but this game was so hyped and it lived up to the amount of hype that it had that it just sold like crazy.
Speaker B
I just clocked that. You're wearing a God of War T shirt.
Speaker C
I'm wearing. I'm wearing a God of War T shirt. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker A
Appropriate.
Speaker C
Yeah, I. I was wearing a different shirt earlier and then I fucking spilled something on it and I was like, God damn it, I gotta change my fucking shirt. I was like, I know what shirt I'm gonna wear. I got a Vorse shirt.
Speaker B
I was wearing some shorts earlier and I fucking. Yeah, I was eating a Po Boy and spilled all over my shorts and I'm still wearing the shorts.
Speaker C
What. How's the. How was the Po Boy?
Speaker B
Good as hell. Little combo, part fried, half fried oysters, half fried shrimp.
Speaker A
Was that a farmer's market Po Boy?
Speaker B
No, this Po Boy was from Little Jewel of New Orle. It's in Chinatown. It's fucking great.
Speaker C
Ooh, yeah.
Speaker B
Anyone ever been a little jewel rancher? Been a little jewel?
Speaker C
I haven't.
Speaker B
Treat yourself. Go get yourself a Po Boy.
Speaker C
I never had. I don't think I've ever had one like that. That sounds good. That sounds.
Speaker B
It was delicious. It was fucking great. I was in heaven.
Speaker A
So hungry.
Speaker C
Yeah, me too.
Speaker B
Got some. Got some dirty fries, so. That's so good.
Speaker A
Damn it.
Speaker B
God, this is a great, great lunch. Shout out. Molasses boy. Alan McLeod had a lovely. Have a lovely meal.
Speaker C
Al Mc McLeod. Loves the God of war games.
Speaker B
Loves the God of war games. Loves walking. Was talking about death stranding too.
Speaker C
What a guy.
Speaker B
Good. A lot of walking in death. Stranded.
Speaker C
What a guy. The best.
Speaker B
Hey, that's this week's Get Played. Our producer is Rachelle Chen. Ranch yard, Sard Ranch. You streaming lately?
Speaker D
Yeah, I started playing Alien Isolation.
Speaker B
Oh, my God.
Speaker D
But I might move on to Silent Hill F. I played it one time and we'll see. We'll see how if Alien Isolation continues.
Speaker C
Is it. Is it too scary?
Speaker D
It's too stressful.
Speaker C
Okay. Yeah.
Speaker D
And everything looks the same and I'm. I get confused.
Speaker C
Yeah. I am also interested in Silent Hill F, but I'm just like, when am I gonna. When?
Speaker A
Yeah, when?
Speaker B
Yeah, when?
Speaker A
When?
Speaker B
The answer is never.
Speaker C
There's never gonna get to it could be someday.
Speaker B
It might be someday. Maybe I. Maybe I will. I don't fucking know.
Speaker C
But here's what are we do. It is unfortunate that the scale is someday, which is not definite. Yes. And then never. Yeah.
Speaker B
Especially as you age. You become very conscious. Those are your options.
Speaker C
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker B
What are you going to do? Twitch TV Yard. And your podcast as well.
Speaker D
We should shout out, oh, yeah, the D Files. Wherever you find your podcast. We talk. We talked about ghosts.
Speaker B
It's a. It's a lot of fun. Our music is by Ben pretty. Ben pretty music dot com. Our artist by duck regay design, duck brigade dot com. Get played merch@kinshipgoods.com and get animator Sister. Show is over on Patreon. Matt, what are we watching this week?
Speaker C
We've made a mistake. We've just made a mistake.
Speaker A
It's. It's a colossal error.
Speaker C
We're watching a show called Elfen Lead and we've made a mistake.
Speaker B
The bad show.
Speaker C
It's. Well.
Speaker B
Well, the show's bad.
Speaker C
It is interesting because it is bad. But. But there's something there. There's something. There's something. There's something.
Speaker A
It's not bad the way that a show is bad when it's boring.
Speaker C
No, it's demonic and evil, actually.
Speaker A
But it is a show that should not have been made by man.
Speaker C
No, no, no, no. It's tough stuff, but I think we have a lot of fun discussing it.
Speaker B
We are aware certainly have more than our share of things to talk about over@patreon.com GetPlayed and look, I may be punished for saying this. I may have my liver eaten by a hawk or something, but I've got to say, Greek gods, y' all got played.
Speaker C
Holy shit, dude. Can he do that? Can he do that at all?
Speaker A
Yeah, look at him. He's fine.
Speaker C
Oh, I guess he's fine.
Speaker B
That was a Headgum podcast.