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Ep 277: Memorize the Facts - It Makes All the Difference

In this episode, Pam and Kim explore the nuances of memorization in math education, emphasizing the importance of understanding relationships between mathematical facts rather than rote memorization. ...

Ep 277: Memorize the Facts - It Makes All the Difference
Ep 277: Memorize the Facts - It Makes All the Difference
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spk_0 Hey listeners, before we get into this episode, we have some fantastic news.
spk_0 You know my K-12 developing mathematical reasoning avoiding the trap of algorithms book came
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spk_0 Well I'm even more excited to announce that the grade ban companion books are about to
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spk_0 And we are having a large webinar on October 8th at 7pm Central, 8pm Eastern 5pm Pacific,
spk_0 you!
spk_0 And you are all invited to celebrate with us, especially K-2 teachers and coaches and math
spk_0 leaders.
spk_0 Pam is going to share tons, helpful things to teach K-2 math that is more figure outable.
spk_0 Yep, I'm going live on October 8th to show you how you can get the most out of teaching
spk_0 our youngest students to math in all the best ways.
spk_0 You're going to want to join us to register, go to mathisfigureoutable.com slash DMRK2
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spk_0 We'll see you there.
spk_0 That's mathisfigureoutable.com slash DMRK2 webinar.
spk_0 Now on to the episode.
spk_0 Hey fellow mathers, welcome to the podcast where math is figure outable.
spk_0 I'm Pam, a former miniker turned math.
spk_0 And I'm Kim, a re-signer who now knows how to share her thinking with others.
spk_0 At mathisfigureoutable, we are on a mission to improve math teaching.
spk_0 Because we know that algorithms are super cool human achievements, but y'all they're terrible
spk_0 teaching tools because mimicking step-by-step procedures actually traps students into using
spk_0 less sophisticated reasoning than the problems are intended to develop ahead.
spk_0 Take a breath that time.
spk_0 I couldn't do it without.
spk_0 Sorry.
spk_0 In this podcast, we help you teach mapping, building relationships with your students and
spk_0 grappling with mathematical relationships.
spk_0 We invite you to join us to make math more figure outable.
spk_0 And that also means I need to work out more or something.
spk_0 That's a sign.
spk_0 It's a sign.
spk_0 I got to get more air.
spk_0 Hey, Kim, I'm going to tell you today we need to do a shout out.
spk_0 So, I had a meeting the other day.
spk_0 So I meet with schools and districts.
spk_0 We work with schools and districts and we work with our learning suite.
spk_0 And it's amazing what we can do.
spk_0 Y'all, if you're a school of district leader, you should get with us.
spk_0 Because we love working with schools and districts.
spk_0 And I was on a meeting the other day with Noreen.
spk_0 And I am going to shout out Noreen and Kathy.
spk_0 Y'all are amazing.
spk_0 And we are so looking forward to we're going to start our work with them in days.
spk_0 And just thrilled to be working with them.
spk_0 So, school district and you guys are amazing.
spk_0 Woo!
spk_0 All right.
spk_0 Super fun.
spk_0 Second thing we're going to do today is I want to say a story, Kim.
spk_0 So I think I mentioned this to the other day.
spk_0 I was on a plane, which I do often.
spk_0 And you know, I don't anymore.
spk_0 I don't talk as much on planes.
spk_0 I don't know if it was co-bedded or if I just wanted to.
spk_0 Which is funny because every time you go on a trip, you come back and you're like,
spk_0 hey, just talking to this person.
spk_0 I'm like, I don't talk to anybody.
spk_0 It's not quiet times.
spk_0 Well, I don't usually.
spk_0 I don't know.
spk_0 I don't so much anymore.
spk_0 Okay.
spk_0 I did.
spk_0 I had a very delightful conversation with a businessman.
spk_0 Okay.
spk_0 He was a sales guy and we actually talked about some business stuff and it was interesting.
spk_0 You know, because I met this for God was a small business.
spk_0 And I'm a math teacher.
spk_0 I don't do business.
spk_0 So, you know, I'm trying to figure out how to do that.
spk_0 And anyway, it was super interesting.
spk_0 He asked me what I do.
spk_0 And I kind of gave him a little, you know, the spiel I usually give people.
spk_0 And he told me it was terrible.
spk_0 I need to come up with a better elevator pitch.
spk_0 That was good.
spk_0 I mean, he liked our mission.
spk_0 He just said my elevator pitch was bad.
spk_0 It was just good.
spk_0 It was good input.
spk_0 You know, I'll take his input.
spk_0 But one of the things that he said was he heard me, you know, talk a little bit about
spk_0 how we're shifting the way we teach math and why and how the way mathy people think is
spk_0 not, not memorizing, mimicking algorithms.
spk_0 And he said, let me tell you.
spk_0 Let me tell you.
spk_0 The most important thing that was true for me as a student was that my teachers had
spk_0 me memorize multiplication tables.
spk_0 And I was like, I was kind of curious for him to say that.
spk_0 I was like, well, that's kind of against everything I believe.
spk_0 I didn't say that.
spk_0 I just tried to get under what he's saying.
spk_0 And he goes, yeah, they gave us this table, this chart.
spk_0 And he kind of, you know, was moving his hands.
spk_0 And he's like, there was, you know, all those, all those facts in there.
spk_0 And he's like, it was so important for me to memorize those.
spk_0 And I said, I'm kind of curious what you mean by that.
spk_0 Say, say more about memorize.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 And he dove into, he said, it was, you know, the relationships between that I could realize
spk_0 how this one was related to that one.
spk_0 And these were connected to those.
spk_0 And it was all this interrelated consistent system that all was meaningful.
spk_0 And it had, and I thought, and I said, so like, when you memorize, when you say memorize,
spk_0 and you looked at, say, this one right here, and it was like, it was like, I don't,
spk_0 pick one six times nine or something.
spk_0 I'm like, does that, you were like six times nine grows on the vine.
spk_0 And so it's, I don't have a run for this score.
spk_0 So it's 54, like, whatever, I don't know.
spk_0 Is that how you memorize it?
spk_0 And he looked at me like, no, idiot.
spk_0 I mean, he was polite.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 And it was like, no.
spk_0 And I was like, so when you say memorize, and then again, he launched off into this.
spk_0 Yeah, because you need to know how it's connected to like 10 times six and how,
spk_0 I could think about eight sixes, it's like double four sixes and it's one more six.
spk_0 Kim, everything he said was about how the facts were related to each other and the connections
spk_0 between them.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 But he thought that he gained all that because his teacher forced him to quote, unquote,
spk_0 memorize the table that somehow, as a student,
spk_0 when he was given that table of facts, it was enough for him to make those connections
spk_0 and relationships and build on them and travel the mental path of figuring them
spk_0 and connecting them between each other.
spk_0 That's what he meant when he said, so important that my teacher made me memorize the facts.
spk_0 He didn't mean wrote memorize at all.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 You know what?
spk_0 I wonder if, I wonder if that's what he thinks quote memorizing is.
spk_0 I wonder if like his teacher put the table in front of him and he was like, oh, there's
spk_0 these puzzle things and like, look at it and mess with it and they just left alone with
spk_0 it and he looked for things and maybe that's what he calls memorizing, but doesn't even
spk_0 realize that that's not what other people necessarily do.
spk_0 Or her.
spk_0 Or like naming numbers over and over again.
spk_0 Interesting.
spk_0
spk_0 And maybe skip counting to fill in the table.
spk_0 So in other words, many students could hear the teacher say, here is this table, you need
spk_0 to know this.
spk_0 And students could do what he did.
spk_0 I think that's what my son did.
spk_0 Students could do what I did.
spk_0 Well, I didn't see.
spk_0 I was never given the table.
spk_0 I was given flashcards and so for me, it was just repeated exposure, wrote memorizing.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 I did have some ramy things for a few of them that I couldn't remember, couldn't just
spk_0 remember to get the ones I didn't, but I think there are many teachers and students out
spk_0 there that say, you should know this.
spk_0 Okay, let's see.
spk_0 I see these, I see the relationships of skip counting.
spk_0 Consider teachers that if you've got kids who have built some additive reasoning and they're
spk_0 looking for patterns in the table, that might be the only pattern they see is the skip
spk_0 count.
spk_0 So then they say to themselves, okay, I guess if I'm going to know this, I'm going to
spk_0 ask, quote, unquote, whatever no means.
spk_0 I guess I'll skip count to recreate it.
spk_0 Right.
spk_0 And then they grow up and they become a teacher and say, tell their kids, you need to know
spk_0 this.
spk_0 All right, everybody, recreate this every time you need a multiplication fact, recreate
spk_0 the table by skip counting and we're sort of keeping kids in that additive reasoning.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 So it's interesting.
spk_0 It's fascinating to me.
spk_0 The words no and memorize and how we connect it with facts and words matter.
spk_0 In fact, Kim, I was just on a call this morning with Sam, oh, golly, I think her last name
spk_0 is Parks.
spk_0 She's from Number Club and one of the things that she and I were talking about is the more
spk_0 that she writes, we're going to talk more about Number Club in the future, but the more
spk_0 that she writes about Number Club, how she's becoming, maybe not becoming, she's aware
spk_0 words that we say words that mean different things to different people and how she's
spk_0 being very careful to define her terms.
spk_0 And I think she's about to write a blog on the word play.
spk_0 And Kim, I would love to hear you.
spk_0 Okay, on another episode, maybe we can talk more about like when we say play with mathematics,
spk_0 I am 100% sure that what you mean by play with mathematics is 100% different than what
spk_0 I meant when I was a student in math by playing with mathematics.
spk_0 I would have had not even a vision of what it not even close to what you would mean.
spk_0 Anyway, so words matter.
spk_0 And I'm just going to suggest today that memorize, like what do we mean when we say that?
spk_0 And then specifically with facts, memorize does it mean to know?
spk_0 Oh, Kim, the other day, in one of the things that we're writing, I can't even tell you
spk_0 which one it is.
spk_0 One of the things we're writing, an editor popped back and said, I said something about
spk_0 own the facts.
spk_0 And the editor came back with, why don't you just say know the facts?
spk_0 Well, Kim, like to do those two words mean different things to you?
spk_0 Absolutely.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 Say more.
spk_0 Like, what, absolutely, can you put some words to help me?
spk_0 I can know the answers.
spk_0 Yeah, I can know the answers to individual problems, but not own them in such a way that
spk_0 I can relate them to something else.
spk_0 I can't, I can't make connections.
spk_0 I can know individual facts.
spk_0 But when you own something, it's like you have, I don't even have the words, you have
spk_0 facility over it, you have relationships, other things, you like know it deeply in such
spk_0 a way that you can in and out, uncompress the word, and flexibly do things with it.
spk_0
spk_0 So you might have a fact at your fingertips, but you can uncompress it and have lots
spk_0 of relationships of connections and deeper, yeah, all of those, all those words.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 All right.
spk_0 So if we were to say that we want kids to know their facts and more, what's one way
spk_0 that that could look?
spk_0 No, there was something else I wanted to do before I went here.
spk_0 One of the things that he said on the plane was something about napkin math.
spk_0 And I feel like, I feel like Kim, I mentioned that to you and you actually say something about
spk_0 napkin math.
spk_0
spk_0 So we were talking and you said that this man often did napkin math.
spk_0 And I think we were talking about what does napkin math mean to you, to me.
spk_0 And you said, I feel like it doesn't mean that people just grab something and like write
spk_0 an algorithm on it, that there's some like playfulness to it.
spk_0 And I said something like, well, even if they are writing algorithms, which I suspect maybe
spk_0 they're not, but even if they are, it's probably that at least they have a desire to mess.
spk_0 So like in that moment, they're like, oh, I thought of something.
spk_0 I'm going to sidestep.
spk_0 I'm going to do some things, which means they probably think that it's within their capacity,
spk_0 that they have access to whatever it is that they want to stop the conversation.
spk_0 They want to sketch something out because it's burning in them that they want to handle it.
spk_0 And they can handle it and handling it then gives them some information they can move forward with.
spk_0 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
spk_0 And I wonder how many people out there are doing, quote unquote, napkin math that think a
spk_0 lot just a trick I taught myself because I can't really, you know, whatever, when in reality,
spk_0 they're using relationships and connections nicely.
spk_0 I also wonder how many people think, well, yeah, that's like, you know, they're school math
spk_0 and then there's napkin math.
spk_0 And I'm like, ah, why can't we teach all that, like that's real?
spk_0 It's not that's, let's teach that.
spk_0 Well, and I wonder how many people are at dinner or in a meeting or in a whatever and somebody
spk_0 raises something and they don't engage.
spk_0 Like every single notebook I ever have in every conversation has got something sketched
spk_0 down on it.
spk_0 But I wonder how many people go, oh, you just said numbers to me and they don't like, they
spk_0 just deflect their boy, they, you know, they believe where they believe they're like,
spk_0 oh, that's what you got.
spk_0 Okay, I have no idea how or how that's related.
spk_0 But I'm just going to believe and you could be a magnitude off right?
spk_0 You know, an extra zero in there.
spk_0 Yeah, that was me.
spk_0 That was me early on.
spk_0 Absolutely.
spk_0 So Kim, how could we help kids gain what this delightful gentleman on the plane gained?
spk_0 Yeah, how can we do that?
spk_0 Well, one way we can do that is problem string.
spk_0 So I'm going to run you through just a quick problem string that can help students not
spk_0 only gain the facts, but gain the kind of relationships that this gentleman was talking
spk_0 about and even more.
spk_0 All right.
spk_0 So we're just going to run with, what if I were to say, hey, Kim, let's picture a bag
spk_0 of oranges and that bag of oranges has eight oranges in it.
spk_0 I've just drawn a ratio table one bag to eight oranges.
spk_0 How many oranges would be in two bags?
spk_0 16.
spk_0 And I'm going to just do some scaling arrows, just like double the number of bags, double
spk_0 the number of oranges, how about the number of oranges in four bags?
spk_0 32.
spk_0 Now, at this point, I might pause a little bit, ask kids how they're thinking about doubling
spk_0 16.
spk_0 Just to get that out, because kids might not know double 16.
spk_0 If we're working on learning the facts, they might not know double 16.
spk_0 So we might just do that off to the side a little bit.
spk_0 How about eight bags?
spk_0 64.
spk_0 That one I'm not going to spend time on.
spk_0 How about 10 bags?
spk_0 This might sound familiar with the problem string we did last week.
spk_0 These are good relationships.
spk_0 Yeah, 10 bags.
spk_0 80.
spk_0 80.
spk_0 And then I might talk about how they got 10 bags, eight in the two.
spk_0 They might know the times 10.
spk_0 For sure, I'm going to notice the times 10.
spk_0 Because if kids are learning their facts, they might not know the times 10.
spk_0 So once we add the eight in the two bags and get 80 oranges, then I'm going to be like,
spk_0 hey, check it out.
spk_0 If from one to 10, that's times 10.
spk_0 Look at that eight times 10.
spk_0 That's 80.
spk_0 It happened again.
spk_0 And I'm going to say it happened again, because I'm going to point that out every time,
spk_0 every time a times 10 happens, I'm going to point out, look at that.
spk_0 It did it again.
spk_0 Eight times 10 is like eight tens.
spk_0 It's like eight in the 10 slot.
spk_0 Zero ones left over.
spk_0 I'm going to just notice that times 10 thing.
spk_0 You're like, okay, so I just want to point out so far in this string.
spk_0 We got kids thinking about eights.
spk_0 Two of them, four of them, eight of them, ten of them, thinking and reasoning.
spk_0 They're using relationships.
spk_0 Pam, Pam, you want kids to do that every time?
spk_0 I'd rather have kids just know.
spk_0 I don't want them to necessarily do it every time.
spk_0 But I want them to be able to, if they don't remember, I want them to have these relationships
spk_0 that they don't remember.
spk_0 Eight times eight.
spk_0 They could double, double, double to get there.
spk_0 But notice I'm building a lot of other things.
spk_0 They're doubling.
spk_0 Got the times 10 pattern happening.
spk_0 Then I'm going to ask them nine.
spk_0 These numbers are in order on purpose.
spk_0 I want them to be able to use what they have up there to get nine.
spk_0 Kim, what's one way they could use what's already up there to get nine?
spk_0 They can start with 10 packs as 80 and then subtract a pack.
spk_0 And so 80 is 78.
spk_0 That's 72.
spk_0 Cool.
spk_0 I could have also added the eight in the one.
spk_0 I'm probably shareable for those.
spk_0 Then I'll say, how about five packs?
spk_0 That's on purpose.
spk_0 That's on purpose.
spk_0 Thank you.
spk_0 That's on purpose to come after the 10.
spk_0 I'm definitely going to have kids have four packs in one pack and that's okay.
spk_0 But I'm going to want to encourage them to think about half of the 10.
spk_0 If you don't have to know your five, if you know your 10s, double or divide the 10 packs
spk_0 to five packs, divide the 80 packs.
spk_0 I just said packs.
spk_0 Bags and oranges divide the 80 oranges in half to get 40 oranges.
spk_0 Cool.
spk_0 So far, we've just in a very quick kind of way.
spk_0 Gotten kids to think about two times eight, four times eight, eight times eight, ten
spk_0 times eight, nine times eight, five times eight.
spk_0 We don't have them all yet.
spk_0 Let's go seven times eight.
spk_0 Now here I could have gone six.
spk_0 Today, I'm going to choose to do seven for reasons.
spk_0 Is there anything up there that could help you?
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 We just did five.
spk_0 So we could do five bags and two bags.
spk_0 We have the five in the two and 40 and 16 oranges.
spk_0 Bam, that's not too bad.
spk_0 That's 56.
spk_0 Okay.
spk_0 Cool.
spk_0 I might point out to kids.
spk_0 Hey, do a lot of you know five times eight.
spk_0 If you didn't, you could cut it in half.
spk_0 Bam, you know two times eight.
spk_0 Just look how easy it is to add 40 and 16.
spk_0 Sweet.
spk_0 There's 56.
spk_0 Travel that path often.
spk_0 But here's where it gets fun.
spk_0 We don't just want to build.
spk_0 We want to build the single digit facts, but not just the single digit facts.
spk_0 Now I might say, yum.
spk_0 I like oranges.
spk_0 How about 70 bags of oranges?
spk_0 How many oranges are in 70 bags?
spk_0 It's 560.
spk_0 And you did that how?
spk_0 Seven skill up times 10 and 56 times 10.
spk_0 Nice.
spk_0 Then I might say, all right, we got 70 bags.
spk_0 That's a lot of oranges.
spk_0 How about 75 bags of oranges?
spk_0 I wonder if there's anything up there that can help you.
spk_0 I don't know, maybe not.
spk_0 Go ahead.
spk_0 The 70 bags and the five bags we already found make 560 and 40.
spk_0 So 600 oranges.
spk_0 That's even a nice addition.
spk_0 Wasn't too shabby.
spk_0 Hey, let's go really like oranges.
spk_0 Let's go for 100 bags of oranges.
spk_0 800 oranges.
spk_0 800 lots of oranges.
spk_0
spk_0 Bam.
spk_0 That's too many oranges, Kim.
spk_0 Silly, just 97 bags.
spk_0 97 bags.
spk_0 OK.
spk_0 Well, I want to remove three bags of oranges.
spk_0 And I don't see that you have three bags on there.
spk_0 Root.
spk_0 I know.
spk_0 But I know that we have one bag and two bag there, so I can add those.
spk_0 OK.
spk_0 Or I can think about what's right in the middle of two bags
spk_0 and four bags.
spk_0 Oh, nice.
spk_0 So anyway, that's 24 oranges.
spk_0 So the 800 minus 24 is 776.
spk_0 You could play a little.
spk_0 I have you need there.
spk_0 Kim, if you weren't as over as you are,
spk_0 was there anything else that kids might have done to get the 97
spk_0 with what we have?
spk_0 If you have nine bags, they can make an entry
spk_0 that's 90 bags.
spk_0 OK.
spk_0 And add it to the seven we already have.
spk_0 And so like 90 bags, if nine bags had 72, 90 would have 720.
spk_0 We had the seven bags.
spk_0 So we could add the 720 plus the 56 oranges and seven bags.
spk_0 And that could also get a 776.
spk_0 Nice.
spk_0 Cool.
spk_0 OK, last problem.
spk_0 What if we were at the race and we counted 784 oranges
spk_0 and we were super curious how many bags we bought?
spk_0 784 oranges.
spk_0 How many bags?
spk_0 Well, we just did 97 bags.
spk_0 And that was really close.
spk_0 776 is only one bag away from 784.
spk_0 So then it must be 98 bags.
spk_0 98 bags.
spk_0 Nice.
spk_0 Is that also two bags, 16 oranges under 800?
spk_0 784, 16?
spk_0 Nice.
spk_0 A couple different ways too.
spk_0 Cool.
spk_0 So Kim, we are suggesting to teachers out there
spk_0 that we can do problem strings to help kids think about eights
spk_0 that then lead into things like you just found 97 times 8,
spk_0 thinking and reasoning.
spk_0 You found 75 times 8, thinking and reasoning.
spk_0 And you found 784 divided by 8, thinking and reasoning,
spk_0 using what you know.
spk_0 And in the process, building multiplicative relationships,
spk_0 building multiplicative reasoning.
spk_0 So we're getting the facts, multiplicative reasoning,
spk_0 place value, reasonableness, magnitude, all sorts of things
spk_0 that a sense of what division means is happening.
spk_0 So this is what multiplication means, a feel for operations.
spk_0 I wonder if a kid ever ran into a word problem that said,
spk_0 I have 784 lovely oranges.
spk_0 If oranges come eight oranges in a bag, how many bags do I have?
spk_0 I wonder if a kid can go, oh, this feels like something
spk_0 I've done before.
spk_0 I have felt this oranges in bags before.
spk_0 I bam, I can dive in.
spk_0 In other words, what they're not doing is going,
spk_0 let's see, keyword oranges.
spk_0 Nope, I don't remember that as a keyword, right?
spk_0 They're not doing that.
spk_0 They've been reasoning.
spk_0 They've been in a situation where their brain
spk_0 has traveled this reasoning path.
spk_0 Word problems just become, if I kept my name,
spk_0 I tell you, our editor said to me on Sunday.
spk_0 He said, hey, that last episode that I just edited.
spk_0 So it was all about word problems,
spk_0 which was an episode that came out just a minute ago.
spk_0 He's like, I really like how you said,
spk_0 if we get kids reasoning, then word problems
spk_0 are just, we're just, we're keep reasoning.
spk_0 It's like, yeah, that really hits.
spk_0 Right, right.
spk_0 I think everything that you just described
spk_0 that's happening in this problem string,
spk_0 you know, you just listen to the reasoning
spk_0 and they're doubling and they're all of those things.
spk_0 I think there are kids like the man you man on the plane
spk_0 who probably see a multiplication table
spk_0 and their brain travels through those things.
spk_0 But we've got to do better by giving kids experiences
spk_0 so that not everybody who is doing that naturally
spk_0 has somebody helping facilitate that learning for them
spk_0 because they're capable.
spk_0 We just have to do things like these problems
spk_0 during this where we are exposing relationships
spk_0 so that they can grab on.
spk_0 Nicely said, yeah.
spk_0 And even the guy who did it naturally,
spk_0 why leave him to do it on his own?
spk_0 Like, he could have gone further faster
spk_0 if we would have actually helped him
spk_0 and now that we know how to do it, we can't.
spk_0 Y'all, I am reminded of an email that I got just the other day.
spk_0 I'm gonna butcher his name.
spk_0 So sorry, S. Sundaram.
spk_0 Sundaram, S. Sundaram.
spk_0 I am sorry.
spk_0 Delightful email who said, would you consider
spk_0 wrote memorization and meaningful memorization?
spk_0 The difference.
spk_0 What is needed for fluency is the second type.
spk_0 Fluency is meaningful memorization,
spk_0 which can also be described as he said,
spk_0 remember by repeated use in the right context.
spk_0 I'm gonna say that again.
spk_0 Remember by repeated use in the right context.
spk_0 So you're sort of saying,
spk_0 memorization could be linked to, we want to remember.
spk_0 Well, we do.
spk_0 We want kids to own their facts.
spk_0 That means they remember them,
spk_0 but we're going to get that memory
spk_0 by repeated use in the right context.
spk_0 And use repeated, is that what we just did in this
spk_0 promising repeated generating, repeated finding,
spk_0 repeated reasoning?
spk_0 I might say, remember by repeated reasoning
spk_0 in the right context.
spk_0 But I really, yeah, I really like that.
spk_0 Like, is it wrote memorization?
spk_0 No.
spk_0 It's meaningful memorization if the way we're defining
spk_0 memorization is remember.
spk_0 It's the remembering part by repeated reasoning
spk_0 in the right context.
spk_0 I really like that.
spk_0 So good.
spk_0 Yeah, I appreciate that redefining what
spk_0 memorization means.
spk_0 Nice.
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