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Ep. 213 - Durmstrang & the Other Wizarding Schools w/ Stanislav Yanevski AKA Viktor Krum!
In Episode 213 of Potterless, host Mike Schubert is joined by Stanislav Yanevski, known for his role as Viktor Krum, to explore the fascinating world of Durmstrang and other wizarding schools from the...
Ep. 213 - Durmstrang & the Other Wizarding Schools w/ Stanislav Yanevski AKA Viktor Krum!
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Now let's talk about this episode though.
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What is this episode?
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This episode is audio from a previous leaky con.
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I mentioned that I will be at enchanticon, which is the convention formerly known as leaky
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con. This is from Denver leaky con from 2022.
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It was in the fall of 2022 and this was a live show that I did with Stanislav Jenevsky,
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the actor who played Victor Krum in the Harry Potter films.
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And it was such a delight.
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It was so fun.
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We went through all of the info I could find about Dermstrang, bobatten and all of the
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other magical wizarding schools.
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It was the second time I got to interview him at this convention.
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So we had a little bit of chemistry going into it.
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Super fun.
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Super good times.
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I think you will enjoy it.
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So without further ado, let's get into this episode going through all of the non
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Hogwarts wizarding schools with Stanislav Jenevsky, aka Victor Krum.
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Leaky con.
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What's up?
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Welcome to Potterless Lock makes some noise.
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All right.
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That long last the moment is here.
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So by a show of hands and a show of making some noise, who's ever heard of the little podcast
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that I made called Potterless?
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All right.
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And who here is just like that sounds like fun.
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So I showed up.
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All right.
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Shout out to the that sounds like fun.
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So I showed up, folks.
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Let's do it.
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So we're going to be having a lot of fun here today.
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We are going to be joined by a very special guest and talking about something that he's got
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some expertise in.
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We will be doing a deep or dive into the extraneous other wizarding world schools that exist in
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the Harry Potter canon.
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We'll be seeing how many we can talk through in this amount of time because there are certainly
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a lot of information about two of the other schools.
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And then the other ones get short paragraphs on Pottermore.com.
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So we will be going through some of those, but I'm not going to be doing it alone.
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I will be joined by our very special guest.
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You may know him as the actor who played Victor Krum in the Harry Potter movies.
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Please give it up for Stan Yinevsky.
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I don't know.
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We can keep talking until it begins to work.
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Is it on?
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There we go.
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All right.
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How's Ruliky Kahn bin?
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It has been fantastic.
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I've had a wonderful time.
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I'm very happy to see so many of you here.
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Late Sunday now.
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It's been a great experience.
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I've had a lot of fun.
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I hope that you all had a great full weekend.
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Some of you had a day or two days.
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Right.
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It's been a great.
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Them has been really good.
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People have been awesome.
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Very happy to be here.
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Yeah.
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Can confirm.
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Everyone's been really nice, which has been a whole lot of fun.
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Now we are going to be talking about the extraneous wizarding schools that do exist.
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Obviously, you played someone that was in Dermstrang.
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We will begin with Dermstrang.
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But before I get into all of the things that I've pulled from the Harry Potter wiki sites
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and all the hyperlinks and figuring out all where they got their sources from, what
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are your general thoughts on Dermstrang?
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Did you enjoy the school?
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Do you feel a kinship to it more so than a Hogwarts house?
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I think it's the best wizarding school of all.
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It's definitely got some powerful wizards that have come out from Dermstrang.
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Very free, dark hearts, magic is all allowed.
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So yeah, a lot of fun.
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Somewhere in the north.
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Somewhere in the north.
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Very mystical as well.
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Right.
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There's a lot of intrigue and all of that.
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But here's the information I was able to uncover about it.
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So it does say it's located in the far north of the European continent.
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I mentioned that.
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Very vague.
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And it doesn't mention it's as the school is willing to accept international students
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from as far as Bulgaria, which when I was looking at a map, you know, it's much farther
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south from your experience being from Bulgaria yourself.
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What are the differences between Bulgaria where you and your character are from versus the
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far north like Finland, Sweden area?
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It feels like those are very different countries.
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Oh, yes.
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Well, the further north you go, the more Vikings like things become.
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Okay.
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People are tall, pale, blue eyes, blonde hair.
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Sure.
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The further south you go, people are more like me.
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Dark hair, dark eyes.
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Maybe tan, I'm old tattooed.
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So I've sort of lost sense of my tan.
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But yeah, powerful, strong, good looking people.
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Yeah, just objectively the best people.
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So the Wiki continues as having existed since at least 1294.
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Dermstrang is one of the three schools that competed in the tribes of tournament and was
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notorious for prominently featuring dark arts in its curriculum.
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Now here it also has what I think are some big liberties that they've taken because
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it says, Dermstrang did not admit Muggleborns, but certain students might not necessarily
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have shared this prejudice.
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In 1994, Victor Crum attended the Yulball with Hermione Granger, who was Muggleborn and would
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not have been admitted to Dermstrang.
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So apparently, you going on a dance with someone was enough to be like, they're not all bad
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at Dermstrang.
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There is always this one or the one.
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But no, Victor Crum seemed like he was, when I read the books, I really enjoyed him as
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the character.
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It seemed like he was a nice guy.
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It was cool to see him talk with someone, not just Muggleborn.
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He did a little bit more of it in the book, not as much scowling.
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But it felt like it was cool that he, this big popular guy, didn't think too highly of
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himself.
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He could still ask out the nerdy quieter girl to the dance.
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And I thought that was nice.
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Yeah, that's true.
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That's what he's got.
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He's got taste.
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He's above things.
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So he does his own, you know, he goes his own ways.
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Right, right.
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And Hermione was a good catch for the Yulball.
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Right.
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Must have made that.
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Yeah.
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I mean, no, I think he does go his own way.
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He swam in the lake just for exercise.
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Feels like, you know, a out of the box to show up.
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A little bit.
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Yeah, a little show up.
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Just swimming in a very public place in the school.
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Everyone's looking through the windows.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I can see it.
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Having a bunch of, you know, students running after him.
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Yep.
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Yes, that felt nice.
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Now, that was definitely in the books.
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Were there lots of scenes of you just like getting chased by girls around?
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Was that stuff that they had you shoot for the film as well?
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Yes, we did.
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Him stretching my lake and then, you know, turning around.
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But then Hermione was present.
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So he was concentrated on her.
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I had that focus.
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So that it didn't feel nice having some extra attention.
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Yeah.
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Now, in the books, when Victor Crumb speaks, they write it in a way where it's like phonetically
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you're supposed to understand his accent.
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So instead of saying, W's, it'll have the letter V. So it'll be like V have grounds larger
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than these through the winter.
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V have very little daylight.
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So V are not enjoying the ventures.
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As someone who is actually from Bulgaria, when you read this, like, were you upset that
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they were just like, this is how they talk V's abound?
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No, this is not how we talk.
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But it's more like a stereotypical thing.
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Maybe in some distant village, you can get someone talking like that, which is all right.
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Not everybody has, well, I have a strange accent myself.
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I think it gave, like, little spice to his character.
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Yeah.
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And I did try and bring that stuff onto the screen, which was fun.
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I wish he would have talked more.
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Yeah.
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So I could have played around with his accent.
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Sure.
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And, you know, two, three sentences.
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Not much to play around with.
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That's OK.
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You know, I think you did a great job.
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And it's a shame what was left on the cutting room floor.
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And it should have been two movies, anyway.
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It definitely should have been.
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Yeah.
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Way too much material.
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So in addition to this, it also says that the school was unplodible.
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So it had its concealed wearabouts from plain sight.
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So it was hard to say where it was.
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But it was generally thought of that it would be in the far north of Europe.
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It was founded during the Middle Ages by the great Bulgarian witch, Nareda Volcinova.
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Does this sound like it would be a Bulgarian name at all?
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It feels very Russian.
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No, it doesn't feel Russian.
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It feels Bulgarian.
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OK.
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Yeah, like it would be Volcinova, which translates like it has a woven root, the surname.
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OK.
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Kind of, you know, coming from the wolves.
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OK.
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Yeah.
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Sounds like a Bulgarian surname.
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All right.
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Well, she seems like a cool person from what I researched about her.
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She served as the first head of the school.
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And she seemed to be doing well, seemed to be popular.
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But she was succeeded after her mysterious death by Professor Harfang Munter.
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Is Harfang Munter a Bulgarian name?
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Sounds more Austrian.
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OK.
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Well, there may be years from a different country that founded it.
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But he immediately succeeded her after her very mysterious death,
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which definitely sounds like he super murdered her.
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But he apparently established Durmstrang's reputation
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for emphasizing more aggressive magic, dark magic, dueling as part of the...
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Which is very cool.
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Yeah.
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So for the guy who makes it more intense, I wouldn't be surprised if he murdered poor
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Neurada to take the position, but...
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Is it competition?
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Yeah, you know.
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So apparently, in 1294, the tri-usure tournament was established as a friendly competition
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between Durmstrang, Hogwarts, and Boba Ton.
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But in 1792, a cockatrice, which is a magical creature that resembles a rooster
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with a lizard's tail, a cockatrice went on a rampage and injured the heads of the schools.
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And the tri-usure tournament was then suspended indefinitely only restarting in 1994.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but no kids died?
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That's not why they canceled it.
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It was because some people in charge got hurt by a chicken lizard.
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That's what stopped the tournament that was running for 500 years, and they're like,
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ah, some people got attacked by a chicken lizard, shut it down.
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Do they mention what size that chicken was?
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It was a kind of rooster.
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That's true.
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It doesn't say that it was rooster size.
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They just said that it was resembling a rooster with a lizard's tail.
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So maybe it was a cute monster.
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It was a huge, people-grip size chicken.
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It's a dragon tail.
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I will say, yeah, a dragon-sized chicken does sound terrifying.
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And a new version of the Would You Rather fight 100 horse-sized ducks or, you know, duck-sized
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horse is kind of thing.
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Would you fight a dragon-sized rooster or a hundred rooster-sized dragons?
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Well, I would.
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I went fighting the Chinese fireball.
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So, yeah, you're fine.
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You're okay.
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I have to decide.
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You got it.
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So at some point, after 1981, Egar Carcarov, after being acquitted as a death-eater by
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betraying information to the Ministry, so he did the classic leak.
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The information will get you off Scott-free.
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He then rose to the position of headmaster of Dermstrang, and he became immensely unpopular
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in this position, and several students were removed from the school by their parents for
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his ruthlessness.
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He insisted on an environment ruled by fear and intimidation from his students, leading
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many to view him as egotistical and unprincipled.
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But this sounds like- was this the kind of environment in which Crum thrived?
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Because it felt like Crum did just fine under these circumstances.
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Crum was fine.
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He was his favorite, so privileged.
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Yeah, Egar Carcarov does have that reputation of a sinister sort of leader of a minion's
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army.
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Yeah?
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I just had this pickable mean, my head.
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Minions.
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I'm now imagining minions doing all the coups.
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Dermstrang minions.
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He was a military leader, which we saw unpopular though.
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Was the actor who played him a nice guy though?
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Yeah, Péjay is a really, really nice guy.
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He was very funny on set, and he would get into character and become the sinister, still
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very pleasant to work with person.
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He had this little extension to his small finger, and he kept doing his little magic things
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on everybody going like, I didn't decide he had a prosthetic to make the finger longer.
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No, I was like those claw rings.
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He loved that.
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You would come next to my shoulder and be like, yeah.
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That's funny.
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It's funny that he's a very silly guy, and then it's action.
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Now I'm angry, Carcarov.
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Action, and then you just sense that thing moving.
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I'm like, yeah, very different one.
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This is like, how funny jokes to like.
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Curse them all.
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It just used your ones, man.
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Yeah, but we do with the pinky.
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There's such an extra flourish to it.
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It's like an extra bit of magic.
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Right.
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Yeah, because then it's the intrigue of like, what's this guy doing with his pinky?
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Like a kind of Mr. Rex you and like, he said, just remember it was like a dragon claw.
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Extension.
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It was just on one hand.
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He was covered, you know, this little play thing and then that went on forever.
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And it was just on one finger.
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Did he have an eye on it?
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Just on one finger.
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Just one finger and he was just constantly.
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That's so fun.
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So during his time as the school administrator, some students copy Grindelwald's symbol onto
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their books, the Deathly Hallows logo, and they would put it on their books and their
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bags to try to impress others.
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But then they were taught a lesson.
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And this is a direct quote from the book where I think someone was asking about it and they
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said, oh, followers of him were taught a lesson.
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You know, those students were taught a lesson by folks who lost family members to dark
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wizards.
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So they would, you know, get angry.
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But the way that Harry Potter wiki wrote this is to make it very clear what they mean
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by taught a lesson.
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They put taught a lesson in quotation marks and then in parentheses, it says, presumably
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in the form of retribution.
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So they have to explain what being taught a lesson means, which I think is fantastic.
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Now I forgot this, but it said here that Dermstrang during the Trials of Tournament, they
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would go back into the boat to sleep.
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Is that something you ever did for the film, but then it got cut out?
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I completely forgot that Dermstrang would go back to the boat every night to sleep.
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Can you imagine the parties that went on?
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Well, we filmed none of that.
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OK, but there was a scene where Victor Crum did his show of training jumping from the
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ship, right, which we didn't see in the film.
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I wish we had filmed also going back and doing our Dermstrang stuff.
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Sure.
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That's been really cool.
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When you were doing the dive thing, did that take like a lot of training?
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Were you well versed in diving or did you have to like take lessons and all that?
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No, I went, I had coaching by the Olympics coach for diving.
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So I learned how to dive from the highest platform.
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Platform, yeah.
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Yeah, which was really cool.
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Definitely not something I was very comfortable with to start with, but now I just, yeah,
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it's a skill, a good skill.
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Yeah, good.
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I took from Harry Potter.
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So now I am like, watch movie.
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And when they had you actually diving it, I'm assuming you were like in it, was like an
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indoor pool with a green screen stuff all around.
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Yes, they built a special tank for the movie.
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OK.
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And if he didn't use the scene.
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Well, yeah, but they used all the diving stuff, you know, the lake, everything.
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OK, was done in that tank.
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OK.
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So you were just doing it there.
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Was it better?
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Was it like a big pool?
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Was it small?
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What is it?
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I think it's the biggest set, you know, the film set, a pool ever built.
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OK.
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So a huge thing.
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And they covered it in mirrors.
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Oh.
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So you would literally lose sense of how big it is.
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Oh, God.
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And then you have to jump off a thing in a room of all.
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That sounds like a different game.
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And you have a diverse team.
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And yeah, wow, intense stuff.
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Well, glad you still have that diving skill.
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If you ever go, I don't know, cliff jumping or anything like that.
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I don't know how far I would go up, but yeah.
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At least platform height.
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So Carcarov full-heartedly supported Crumb with tremendous amounts of bias,
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according to Harry Potter Wiki.
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Their words are not mine.
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Supported Crumb with tremendous amount of bias, both as a judge towards the champions
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and as a headmaster to the students.
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And what's funny is on Harry Potter Wiki, they'll put like reference links when they
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justify things.
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And most times it'll like, you'll click in, you'll see like,
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oh, this page in this book or like, oh, they set this on Pottermore.
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There were three reference links to this one sentence about Carcarov being too
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nice to Crumb, which felt excessive.
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They really want to prove like, no, it feels like this article was written
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by another Dermstrang student.
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That was like, God, I wasn't fair.
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He was so biased against us.
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Did you ever get a sense of bias there?
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Or do you think it was just Crumb was the best and everyone else is just jealous?
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Well, he was his favorite and he's an international,
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quidditch superstar.
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So he will get a little bump here and there, a little push and privilege.
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But this is hard earned respect.
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Right.
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It doesn't come for free.
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That's true.
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So I think it's just Crumb was up to all the other students who were jealous
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at the time, well, you got to work harder, man.
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So Carcarov then fled after Voldemort rose again.
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It was not known who took over Dermstrang after or if the school's reputation
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improved or worsened due to someone else being in power.
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However, none of the students appeared to be too concerned by this.
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As Carcarov was unpopular among the school, especially when he had his students
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row the ship while he rested in the cabin during their arrival.
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So my question for you, do you think Crumb also had to row the ship?
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Or do you think he got enough special treatment where Carcarov was like,
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everybody row, Crumb, you don't have to worry about it.
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My special boy.
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I don't know why I have this picture of that scene from Titanic.
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Oh.
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Yeah, maybe Crumb was at the back of the ship just enjoying the sun.
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Or maybe he was the guy beating the drum.
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He was just instructing them.
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He was like, I'm helping, I promise.
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No, no, no.
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He wouldn't be beating the drum.
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He'd be catching some sun tan and just.
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Yeah, I'm saving myself for the tournament.
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I need to rest.
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He needs his full power and energy concentration on the tri-whiz tournament.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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He knows he's going to be selected even before.
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Can you imagine him rowing and downstairs?
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Yeah.
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And then his triceps are all sore for when he needs to fight the dragon?
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No, totally makes sense.
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Surely they would use a bit of magic to...
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That's the kind of thing.
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That's always the question with manual labor.
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It's like, why does Filch have a job?
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Like, is it punishment?
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Because you can clear everything up with magic.
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Same kind of thing.
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They could certainly enchant the robots.
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But maybe this is Carcarov's way of teaching them discipline.
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Guylets are retraining.
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Yes, it's very much...
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It's the Mr. Miyagi.
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Like, you need to do the harder thing so that I can prove to you your worth
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as opposed to the easy way out is using the magic.
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Here in a Dermstrain we row boats ourselves.
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Like I used to do back in the day.
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Now, more notes on Harfang Munter, who definitely murdered the first headmaster,
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says about Harfang.
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Well, Harfang was the second headmaster.
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He took over the school shortly after Narita Volchenova's mysterious death.
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He was a wizard of, quote, dubious allegiance or nefarious intent,
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having stressed the importance of dueling and all forms of martial magic,
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something that the school is reputed for,
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even today, having kept it as an important part of the curriculum.
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So, martial magic, I didn't even...
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That's a whole new brand of martial arts,
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as you're getting magic into the...
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Always so a bit of martial magic when the dumbstrangs entered for the first time.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Hogwarts.
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You know, flips and capoeira stuff.
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Yeah, it was some really cool things.
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Oh, the dragon's coming out.
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Yeah, it makes sense.
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Now, there's also a section on the Dermstrain wiki that says,
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known students and the known students are Geller Grindelwald,
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Igor Karkarov, who's listed as possibly,
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since it's not confirmed that he actually went to the school.
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He's just an admaster at the school.
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Viktor Krum, Karkarov's aide, who we talked before,
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we'll talk about.
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And then the last person mentioned is Dermstrain Boy.
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LAUGHTER
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It's just, I guess, someone who had enough screen time
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where he has his own Harry Potter wiki pd. a page,
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but apparently the fifth most popular student at Dermstrain, Dermstrain Boy.
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It's probably the one that rode the article.
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LAUGHTER
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Yeah, that's exactly.
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It's a grumma grumma grumma.
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But I gotta put myself in, but not make it too obvious.
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Let's get a little credit in here.
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Now, something that I mentioned here, and I've been saying Dermstrain,
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I'm apparently incorrectly, because it says the pronunciation of Dermstrain
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is Dormstrain, D-O-O-R-M, String.
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Is that something you guys were coached on when you were in the film?
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Were they saying very particular, like, you have to say,
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if this way, this is the word?
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Well, there was so many accents amongst Dormstrain.
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So I think there was no specific way of saying it.
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OK.
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It would be more like a Dormstrain, like a, ooh, ooh, more of a, ooh, than a, uh.
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Now, Dormstrain, according to the etymological breakdown,
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seems to be a spoonerism for Sturm and Drain,
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which is a barrageerman expression, meaning turmoil, and to ferment.
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It derives from the name of a highly emotionally driven German artistic movement
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of the late 1700s precursors to Romanticism.
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Sturm and Drain literally translates to as tempest and urge,
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or charge and rush, but it was anglicized as storm and stress.
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Stranged, you know, I had a different picture, moon and shine.
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You know, they, they produce their own drink.
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It's called rakia, which is moonshining.
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OK.
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Is it good?
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Oh, it's very good. It's like brandy.
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Oh, all right. Nice, nice, nice.
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So that's everything that we have about Dormstrain,
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but I have prepared some things about some of the other schools.
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We'll get through as many as we can before we end it with Q&A.
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Eventually, while the microphone comes out,
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so start thinking of some questions you want to ask Stan and I.
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But let's move on to the other school that was given some fair shine.
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And that was Boba Tahn.
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And this is...
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Oh, we enjoyed them.
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Yes.
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During filming, did you have a lot of crossover with the Boba Tahn?
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Well, they did.
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Drain keep us apart.
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But yeah, we kept us close as possible.
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OK, yeah.
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It feels like that could have happened at the actual school itself,
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which you kind of sneak off to each other's trailer.
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Yeah, it sort of happened naturally anyway.
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You know, all these beautiful, there were dancers and ballerinas
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and, you know, gymnasts, really beautiful.
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Yeah.
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And we had to get some energy stimulation.
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Well, thanks.
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I mean, it feels like you guys would get along because from what you've said in various interviews,
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it seems like all the other Dermstrang extras, a lot of the guys who did all this dancing.
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Like, they were various athletic feats in terms of things like we're saying,
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you know, gymnasts and all of that.
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Boba Tahn's obviously...
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Yeah, the special feature.
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We all look the same.
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In a way.
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Same haircut, same clothing.
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Uh-huh.
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Yeah.
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So, um, yeah.
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And they all had the same robe.
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Or they had the, you know, the robes, the hats.
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They were classified differently, you know, red hair, blonde hair.
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You were Buzzcut, Buzzcut, Buzzcut.
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You were all...
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Well, pick any of them.
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So they're a French school in the Purineuse Mountains in the south of France.
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And it says in terms of like some of the famous Boba Tahn students.
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It says, apart from the flamel, so Nicholas Flamel and his wife also went to Boba Tahn,
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famous ex-students of Boba Tahn included Vincent Duke,
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De Treffel Peak, who escaped the terror by casting a concealment charm on his own neck
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and pretending that his head had already been cut off.
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So he was someone I guess around French Revolution time that faked his own beheading,
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which sounds awesome.
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I want the side story about this guy.
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It sounds pretty ridiculous.
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Sounds wild.
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Yeah.
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Now there's another famous student named Luke Millfoil,
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and this is an infamous pastry maker, of course a pastry maker,
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since his last name is a type of pastry.
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Luke Millfoil, and you might notice that I had said,
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infamous pastry maker, which is not something you hear often about pastry makers,
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but he was infamous because he was a known muggle poisoner.
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He was a French wizard and a Patissier who became famous
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for deliberately poisoning muggles as a form of muggle beating.
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And I tried to do more research about this.
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This is like a one sentence throw away and a Pottermore article,
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where it's like, yeah, by the way, there was this like,
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sweetie Todd, but for pastries.
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And then we're only going to write one sentence about him.
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I'm sorry, I need 1200 pages about him yesterday.
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Come on.
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The demon pastry maker of the South of France, let's go!
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That puts a different light on Boba Tahn.
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Yeah, like, where did he learn it?
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Who was the potion teacher?
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Early on Butterfly.
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They had some characters in there.
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Right?
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Yeah, speaking of the butterflies, I'm assuming those were all CGI butterflies,
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but did they give you any sort of notes of, like,
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did they tell you like, the bow battens will come, the lull go,
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butterflies will emit, and you need to be impressed.
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Like, was there directing action given to us?
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Well, we were behind the doors.
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Like, oh, you're right, you hadn't come in yet.
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So, all four students would get the instructions of what the flies,
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and you know, you'd be like, stunned, and we love...
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We were just waiting for the drum sound outside and pumping up.
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Oh, fantastic.
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So yeah, demon pastry maker, glossing over it.
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More about Boba Tahn, apparently, in the dining chamber,
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while they would eat, wood nymphs would serenade the students during meals.
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And at Christmas time, the hull was adorned with great glittering,
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non-melting, magically non-melting ice sculptures.
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So my question for you is, if you were eating a nice French meal,
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do you think wood nymphs would make the meal better,
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or would you find it kind of annoying you want to focus on the food?
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I think we would just get our velas over too.
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Oh, okay.
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Good bad.
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Yeah, to make our meal extra spicy.
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Extra tasty.
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More enjoyable.
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Now, apparently with Boba Tahn, the students and the staffs,
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we know that they were transported by the Boba Tahn carriages,
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which apparently in French is La Corasse des Bobatons,
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and it does say citation needed on the Wikipedia,
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they have to prove that that's the French words.
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But the carriages, which were light blue and pulled by a dozen winged horses,
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apparently, that was against the rules.
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Apparently, using this big, shally form of transportation,
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went against the statute of wizarding secrecy,
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which makes sense because I feel like it would be hard to conceal them.
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What I also have learned is that the horses are a Braxton horses.
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Does that mean anything to you?
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I know nothing about horse types.
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Very good with them.
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Okay.
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The different breeds.
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Sure, but it's a Braxton A, B, R, A, X, A, N.
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Does anyone, is that a real type of horse?
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Is that a magical type of horse?
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Magical horse.
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Okay, thank you very much.
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That makes sense because what we've learned,
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or what I've learned from this Wikipedia page,
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is that the Braxton horses only drank single malt whiskey,
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which seems like a little one-but-one of the places.
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Well, the one that they were all over the place then.
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Butting into each other.
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But yeah, not only do they only drink whiskey,
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but specifically, it has to be single malt whiskey.
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These are very fancy horses, apparently.
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Very pretty.
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Very starting to like bubbut more now.
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Yes.
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Is that your cup of tea whiskey?
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Is that a liquor of whiskey?
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No, not the whiskey, but you know, they had some pastry killer,
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you know, muggle, now horses drinking whiskey, what else?
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Yeah, they've got demon pastry makers,
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they've got alcoholic horses.
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It's a whole lot of fun.
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It's a beautiful student.
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Yeah, very different from the façade that they put out there.
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Now, bubbuton, when we get down to the breakdown of the word,
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it is apparently likely devised from the French bow and baton,
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which would literally translate to beautiful for bow and sticks for baton.
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So beautiful ones, sure.
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But apparently in French, if you were to translate wand,
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the more correct word is baguette,
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which I know is correct because I think that the reason
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the baguette bread has its name is because it's so long
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and they're like, oh, kind of like a wand, we'll call it a baguette.
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I've been to France many times, it's actually baguette magique.
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Oh, is that how you imagine magic?
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I guess.
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Okay, that makes sense.
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But it is baguette, you know, when I first found out,
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I was like, there's a little piece of bread.
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Like, yeah, give me your bread.
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Let's fight with a baguette.
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What do you like to put on a bit of ham and cheese?
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It feels like a parody.
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Like, if someone was writing like a French spoof, they'd be like,
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yeah, and their wands are baguettes, of course.
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But no, it's just the correct word.
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My favorite fun fact that I know about baguettes,
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because I was fortunate enough to do like a six month work rotation
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in France when I was an engineer,
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is that baguette traditional, like your classic baguette,
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is like a government protected situation where like,
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there's a specific recipe, and it only can have a certain amount
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of ingredients, and you can't charge more than like,
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whatever the official rate is.
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So when I lived there, it was like a euro and five cents.
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Like a baguette was legally not allowed to be more expensive than that.
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And I just love that I want to know in order of like the French laws,
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like what number that was decided.
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Because if that was like the second thing,
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or it was like, all right, first, we're getting rid of the monarchy, right?
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Like, yeah, we got to get rid of it way too many beheadings.
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What's next?
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Bread can't cost more than a dollar.
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Thank you, yes.
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You are correct.
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I just want to know what order, like how soon in the laws.
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But it's great.
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And they're really good and they're very tasty.
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So make sure if someone tries to charge you more,
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they're taking advantage of you being an American,
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cite the law.
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Now going on, if they were to use the more proper word for wand,
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baguette would have made sense.
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So there would have been bow baguette, which would have been great,
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or bow baguette masjique, which would have been very worthy.
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But baton could be a reference to wand,
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but according to this apparently French experts that they've cited,
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it would be more likely translated to staff,
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like kind of like moody's big staff.
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So really, it would be beautiful staff is the literal translation.
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And that's what I've got about bow baton.
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We can now move on to the Russian school,
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which is called cold of stordettes.
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But the name of the school apparently is likely derived
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from the Russian words cold of stoe.
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And then they have the surreal next to it.
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And it was misspelled when they changed the names,
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they kind of like butchered the original word.
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But it roughly translates to witchcraft.
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And then the back half would come from to vortettes,
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which means creator.
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So together it would basically kind of mean the creator of magic.
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That is the name behind the school, which is kind of cool.
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But anytime you think of the names of these schools,
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Hogwarts has nothing to do with magic.
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Like that name has nothing at all to do with magic.
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And then all the other magic schools are beautiful wand.
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And then the maker of magic.
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And then it's hog warts.
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Like it's so different.
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Doesn't this all make you want to get more Harry Potter movies,
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discovering all these different schools?
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And yeah, I mean, it feels like it could be really cool.
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Like, especially just kind of even the way that I had organized this,
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where you could start it off, it could be kind of like when you see
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like the Marvel TV show Disney plus What If,
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where it's kind of like standalone episodes,
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but then they're loosely tied together.
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You could have an episode where you just learn about Dermostrag
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and then what about Bobatown?
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Oh, you don't need a few episodes for those.
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Oh, yeah, sorry.
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You need 12 episodes.
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And it's set in the future so that you can reprise your role as Victor Crumb,
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who is now come back to be the headmaster and everybody likes him.
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He's way better than Carcarov.
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Popular all around the world.
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Yeah, I think it could work really well.
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But yeah, I agree.
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Like, there's enough like out there where you could learn more of that.
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It would be fun to learn more about these worlds and we'll continue to do so
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while we still have the time.
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Now, students from Coldovsterets played a version of Quidditch
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where instead of flying on brooms made out of trees,
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they flew on entire uprooted trees.
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So apparently they would uproot an entire tree and fly on it.
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And honestly, that sounds right up Victor Crumb's alley.
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It's interesting.
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Just like yank it up.
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Yep.
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We.
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This is my crew now.
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The Nimbus 2000 is a, well, the Nimbus 2022 now.
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Right.
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Wouldn't go plucking trees out the forest.
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I could just see them like ripping it on the carving.
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Like Nimbus 5000 into the tree.
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So now we're going to move on to Castulo Bruxo, which is the Brazilian school.
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Now, the name of the school is derived from the Portuguese words,
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Castulo, which means castle, and Bruxo, which means wizard.
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And it literally means wizard castle.
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So the wizard school is named wizard school.
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Very cool.
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Love that Hogwarts is called wizard school.
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If it was called wizard school school of which crafted wizardry,
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I don't know if it would have sold as many copies.
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Now, apparently the pronunciation of Castulo Bruxo is Castello Bruxo.
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So I've been saying it wrong.
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I speak very little Portuguese.
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And by that, I know that Sim Siam is yes.
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Because every now and then Portuguese people will chew it about Potterless.
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And they'll say nice things.
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And then I'll just say Sim with an exclamation point.
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Now, this pronunciation apparently conforms to the original Brazilian Portuguese pronunciation.
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It says that Castulo Bruxo's castle was an imposing square edifice of a golden rock.
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And it was often compared to a temple.
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And the school was bewitched to appear like ruins to Muggles,
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so same kind of thing as Hogwarts.
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And that would also be protected by a authentic Brazilian mythical beast called the Kipora,
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which is like a fuzzy wilderness wooden imp.
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That apparently has, you know, legitimate like Brazilian roots is like a fairy tale.
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Sounded really interesting.
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It was implied to be at least as old as Hogwarts over a thousand years,
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due to the fact that both castles had been enchanted since their beginnings,
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and they did the same sort of ruined situation.
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Now, here's where we get into a very funny situation.
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While Castulo Bruxo's Pottermore entry implies that the institution is just as old as Hogwarts,
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the Portuguese colonization of Brazil only started in the 16th century.
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This suggests that the school may have been founded by indigenous peoples
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some 500 years before colonization,
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when the country was a vast region populated by thousands of tribes of different ethnicities.
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The Portuguese name might therefore be a byproduct of the Marquis of Pumballs,
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1758 ban of Brazilian indigenous languages.
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I feel like this is giving lots of credit to JK Rowling that she did not consider.
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I think she just messed up dates.
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However, I want to know about the school founded by the various indigenous tribes.
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That sounds really cool, right?
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It sounds like full of history.
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That feels like that could be really interesting.
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How did these different tribes come together to found the school?
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Imagine all the rituals going on.
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Yes, yes.
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And they kept the traditional.
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Exactly.
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I love it.
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It could be like Dermchen where you folks from all over from different countries,
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they're all bringing different culture to the mix.
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That could be the same here.
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And I do think it would be funny if they had a way better name for the school
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that had some sort of meaning behind it.
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And then the Portuguese came in and they were like magic school.
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That's what we'll call it.
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And that's why the name sucks.
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Now, there's two other things and then we'll move on to Q&A.
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First off, during Armando Dipett's tenure at Hogwarts,
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so one of the old Hogwarts headmasters,
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apparently during his tenure, he was visited by Benedita Dorado,
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who was the headmistress of Castula Brucho,
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and when Dipett complained about the antics of Peeves, the poltergeist,
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Dorado offered to send him some of these kaipora
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to show him, quote, what trouble really is,
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and get rid of Peeves.
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And thankfully, Dipett rejected this offer.
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He's like, I find Peeves annoying,
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but I do not want to expel him from the school.
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He's got too many fun gaps that I like from time to time.
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Final note, which I totally forgot,
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Bill Weasley apparently had a penpal who attended that school,
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or at least in the books it said he had a penpal from a Brazilian school.
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He wanted Bill to participate in a student exchange program,
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but the Weasley family couldn't afford the trip,
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which is really sad, and it makes me confused
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that the school wouldn't have funded this.
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Like Hogwarts has free tuition already,
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so I don't understand why they couldn't make something happen there.
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Now, when he rejected this offer,
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the penpal from Brazil got really offended regardless,
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and he sent Bill a cursed hat,
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which made his ears shrivel up,
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which feels completely unjustified.
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I'm sure Bill explained, like,
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I'm sorry my family doesn't have the funds to afford this.
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Let's just, that sounds terrifying.
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But that is all we have about the Brazilian Magic School,
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Magic School, and that's going to end this episode of Potter List for now,
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but we're going to move on to Q&A.
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Oh, they're past, Mike.
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We got to pump the brakes for a little bit.
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We got to take a quick breather here for Wingardio Matrydosa.
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Hey, I'm glad you're here.
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Thank you so much for sticking around for not just this episode,
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but also for the Wingardio Matrydosa section.
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So I've already talked about the Potter List Live show stuff coming to you
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in Kansas City, and St. Louis as part of Enchanteconn Providence.
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But I'm also doing some live shows for the New Olympian in the near future.
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That's my Percy Jackson podcast on June 29th,
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Albion Salt Lake City on August 14th,
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Albion St. Louis, Missouri, and September 28th,
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Albion Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
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Those are all in 2025 in case you're listening to this,
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and you're thinking, no way, this is an old episode.
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Nope, we're still posting stuff, baby.
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So if you want to get tickets to those shows, I think I also have the link to those
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at Potterlipspacas.com such a life, but you can also go to the new
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sylopeon.com such a life, or my personal website,
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shoes, s-e-u-b.es, such a tour.
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And you can get tickets for those shows.
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They're going to be super fun. I'm so stoked.
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And I'm also stoked for the half TNO, half Potterlips shows that we've got going on.
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We've also been uploading a bunch of stuff to the Potterlips YouTube channel recently.
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I have a production intern for the summer named Stephen,
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who is part of the reason why we're able to get more of these audio episodes up.
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But Stephen's been doing a bunch of video work as well,
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so I'm posting old tour vlogs.
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I put up two videos so far at this time of recording.
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We're posting a bunch of stuff from the 2022 shows, so that's been really fun.
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And then also if you are a Google podcasts, YouTube Music Podcast listener,
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we've been actually updating that audio feed there, so you can listen to the podcast there.
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I've mentioned the Patreon. It still does have all the Potterlips stuff on it.
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If you go to patreon.com such Potterlips, you can join the,
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oh, I just want the Potterlips stuff tier.
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And for four bucks a month, you can get access to everything we ever posted on the Potterlips Patreon.
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We had it running for five years as the Potterlips Patreon.
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There were bonus episodes, bonus videos, and directors, commentaries, and notes,
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and live streams and all this other stuff.
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So if you want to check that out, you can you can join and then watch all the stuff
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and then leave within a month. I don't care. Do whatever you want.
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I'm not your mom, but you can do that.
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You can also still get Potterlips podcast digital merch at Potterlipspigas.com
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such merch. You can get wallpapers and past live shows and ringtones and all sorts of goofy stuff.
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All right, I'm going to go. You're going to hear words from a few sponsors
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to make it feasible for me to be a full-time podcaster.
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Some of them will be read by me and others of them won't be.
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The ones that aren't read by me are inserted locally.
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If you live in not America, they might be in not English, but once it's as complete,
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we'll continue this episode of Potteros, which is Q&A, which is very fun.
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So question about Harry Potter and also your new podcast in the US Olympian.
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And your new podcast, you're talking a lot about what godly parent instead of what Hogwarts house.
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Could you assign a godly parent to maybe our main trio or maybe Victor Crumb,
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some of the characters that you talk about?
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So I'm doing a podcast called the News Olympian about the Percy Jackson books
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and the Percy Jackson books are all Greek God.
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So who would you say if Victor Crumb was the child of a Greek God or goddess?
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Who do you think his godly parent would be?
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Probably Zeus.
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Zeus?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Little, you know, old Faisal Ergen, you know, I could see it in main character vibes.
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Quite powerful as well.
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I could see Areas as well, the God of War, you know.
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Also, yeah, did some fighting in the mix.
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As far as I guess I'll go with like the main trio, Harry.
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I would say with Harry, I would incline to pick Poseidon just because in the Percy Jackson books,
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the main character also has the Poseidon godly parent and a little bit of the sassiness there.
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And I think Harry and Percy have some similarities.
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I would say the no brainer Hermione would be Athena because all about wisdom.
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That's totally classic.
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And then Ron is an interesting one because he could go a lot of different directions.
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I could see, I could see Ron being Hermies, you know, little bit of like trick-synis.
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And you know, he has some of his clever moments from time to time.
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I'm trying to think of anyone else though that.
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Well, no, and you know, Ron likes to eat a lot of food.
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He's got that fast acting metabolism.
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Hermies, that could hold true.
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So those are my godly parents already.
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Thank you so much for your question.
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Hi, I just want to say kind of Mike because I actually learned about LeakyCon from listening to Potter List.
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Oh, hear that LeakyCon.
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He's inviting me. I'm doing my good job.
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So my question was about, I had heard that there was actually a deleted scene in the Deathly Hollows
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where Crumb comes back and kind of stirs up the love triangle between Crumb, Hermione and Ron.
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So did you have fun getting to kind of shoot that and kind of come back into the Potter verse after being away for a few years?
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Oh, yeah, that was good fun.
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Now, you know, the scene was Bill and Flur's wedding.
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And Victor Crumb was meant to come and deliver, you know, the information to Harry, the war is about to begin.
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And we know all that.
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But David Yates, so with the chemistry that we had with Emma, and he was like,
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let's make a little extra story into this.
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So Victor Crumb, like I literally did when I came back, I went and I was like, Hermione comes with me.
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And he really liked the idea. He was like, all right, let's steal Hermione from Ron and, you know, make him super jealous.
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So we had an extra dance. We were dancing right next to the Love Goods, which was really good fun.
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You know, they were doing those really interesting moves and then we were very professional next to them.
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And Crumb in the books doesn't like the Love Goods. So there's X, there's another layer.
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Yeah, but it was really interesting, you know, the dad, Xenophilics.
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Yeah, Xenophilics. He was really into, you know, he was really enjoying it.
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So with it, this, it wasn't really a love triangle. I mean, we kicked Ron of, you know.
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It was a love straight line and I had to have the side.
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It was a statement by Crumb. He came back, he said, you may have her now, but you know, this is my time, so you can wait.
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Talk her back. And yeah, unfortunately, we didn't see that in the end.
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I think it is a deleted scene on the one of the movies, I think, because I feel like I've seen a video of you doing some of the dancing before.
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A little bit. Yeah, I saw a little bit of it.
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Lost a time, but, you know, maybe it was great. You know, it was an extended scene.
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You know, Victor was helping fighting the dementors off, which would have been interesting.
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Yeah, that's fun. But yeah, unfortunately, it didn't make. I mean, it was a wedding in the middle of a very dark, seven film.
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Right. So they decided, can't have too much fun. We need to be sad.
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Well, it was building up to the final battle. So, you know, having a wedding in the middle of that, a big feasty party didn't quite...
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Well, it fitted for us. You know, for the final cut, for sure.
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I only found out in the cinema, by the way. That's brutal. That should be illegal.
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They should have to send you a note that's like, we know you're looking forward to this.
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I was with my friends and, you know, waiting for the scene to come up. And then he never came up.
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And they were like, I was like, we did film.
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Oh, yeah. Thank you for your question.
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Hello. Hello.
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Sorry for this, Mike.
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A similar kind of question.
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You're probably... Yeah, very nice.
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If there is a moment for Victor Crum and Godlet of Fire that maybe didn't make it into the movie, something that was filmed, something in the book for each of you, that would have given Victor Crum something that he deserved.
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What would you put into Godlet of Fire, the movie?
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Oh, put the entire Quidditch tournament, you know, the proper, you know, him showing off his skills and, you know, just seeing the Quidditch.
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We didn't really see any of the Quidditch. We saw the star then the end.
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Right. I was very surprised when I watched the movie and I was like, so much hype, so much hype.
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All right. Here comes the Quidditch and flashed to white and it's over.
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It felt as a point. And it wasn't like something where like you filmed it and then they just didn't put it in.
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Like you never know. It wasn't filmed at all.
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Unfortunately. Well, now I think that's a good idea.
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I think you know, it would have been nice to actually see a little more of that Quidditch atmosphere and, you know, see why he is the world's best Quidditch seeker and, you know, an international player chased by all the girls.
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Even like... Yes, more scenes of people chasing after me. I think that's what we need.
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We do see a little bit of him doing tricks on the broomstick.
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Right. But far from what I would have loved to have seen him.
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I think if I was going to add something, one thing I really appreciated from the book was that you have this idea of who Crumb is.
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You think, oh, he's this big hot shot. He's internationally famous. And then I thought what was a really cool reveal is that he is more than that.
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He is a nice person. He wants to take her money to the dance. He doesn't care that she's not popular or anything like that.
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And I think having more of that in the movie would have been cool, especially because that library.
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Yeah, the library is.
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Yes. I would have definitely added that.
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You know, it would have been probably a little creepy as well.
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Just imagine, you know, a stalker, you know, behind the foot. She's over there.
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But I think especially the way that they had you portrayed is, you know, you're intimidating and the buzz cut and the scowl and the dramatic music.
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I think that would have been such a fun dichotomy of it.
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It's so intense, but he also like, oh, he has a softer side. Oh, Victor.
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We kind of so we kind of see that side of him when, you know, he sees Hermione for the first time.
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That's true.
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Now, Mr. Heros, he's like completely different, you know, in another funny mood. He's like,
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Oh, mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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And then he goes back to, you know, popping showing off. Can't let anyone see that I have emotions.
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Awesome. Thank you so much for your question.
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Hi.
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Hello.
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My question is not Harry Potter related, but just general.
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If you were to create your dream concert, dead or alive, who's the headliner?
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Oh, dream concert, who's going to be the band that you pick for the dream.
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Maybe Manor?
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Who is it?
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It's a heavy metal band.
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Oh, okay.
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We're actually, I recently was told by my mom that they have remastered a few songs by Queen.
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Oh, interesting.
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They're like unreleased.
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Yeah.
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And they are, you know, they will be releasing a new album.
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So Queen would be, that could be really fun.
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Yeah.
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That's a good one.
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I think if I was going to pick the dream, I would, I've never got the chance to see the Beastie boys.
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Bring Freddie Mercury back.
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Oh, bring Freddie Mercury back.
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Yeah, that's really, it's a solid choice.
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I would pick the Beastie boys.
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I never got to see them live.
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And once one of their members passed, they were just like, we're not performing anymore.
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We're done.
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So being able to see them, I think, would have been a bigger one.
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Just love their stuff growing up.
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Still do.
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Yeah.
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Thank you for your question.
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Hi, yeah.
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And we were talking a little bit about other countries and finding out about the magic.
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And I'm a big, big, history nerd.
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Like, I would be the one who would stay awake in history of magic.
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And I was wondering, what would be your favorite or favorite country or more interested country
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to find out the etymology of history of magic, basically?
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Like, I've always been very interested about ancient Greece.
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I thought that'd be amazing for magic development.
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But like, what about you guys?
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Yeah.
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I would go with ancient Egypt.
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Oh, good one.
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Good one.
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Yeah.
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Like the deep ancient Egypt, you know, the faros.
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Yeah.
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Bronze age, 5000 BC kind of area.
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That seems good.
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I think I would pick Finland because when I started Potterless, I had no idea that there would be like a big international
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listenership.
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And I had no idea that like Finland would be the fifth most popular country.
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Tiny little Finland was like always this like heavily listened to audience.
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And I just feel like I owe it to them to know more about their country and their culture.
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Eventually, I want to be able to visit just COVID made that hard.
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But I'm just intrigued, especially with a Derm strength potentially being in Finland or at least in that area,
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I think it would be cool.
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And then you get, you know, some of the North mythology up in there, some of the like Viking kind of stuff.
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So I think that would be very interesting just because I want to know more about that country because they've clearly shown love to me.
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So I want to reciprocate.
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for your question.
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Those are your phone.
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What other YA novels are you considering for future podcasts when you finish the newer?
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Got it.
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Otherwise, here's so obviously the Percy Jackson books, which I'm currently doing.
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There's so many of those that I think I'm probably set for a while, which is good.
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My boss me loves the job security of it.
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So as far as I don't, I've definitely like been suggested lots of other YA stuff, but I don't really have one that's like leading the pack.
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The one that I like would consider if, you know, I eventually do run out of stuff to do for Percy Jackson.
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And I want to make another podcast like this.
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I think I would go slightly different than YA novels, but would go more towards a YA series and do Avatar the Last Airbender.
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Just because I hadn't watched any of that, I'm very much a baby to anything in the like, you know, Manga, anime, space.
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I've read and watched a little bit of stuff here and there.
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And I know people really like that fandom and there's a lot of stuff.
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So I think that would be my pick, you know, in 12 years when I run out of Percy Jackson stuff.
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I think that's the top choice for me.
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Yeah.
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Cool. Thank you.
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All right. So when we were just talking about the different schools and how they transported part of the school to Hogwarts,
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maybe think about other fun, different magical transportation ways.
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So if each of you were a headmaster of your own school, what would your school's transportation be to get to Hogwarts?
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All right. Transportation method for your school.
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If I was headmaster, we would master the wormhole transportation.
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Ooh.
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I think that would be very interesting to be very useful.
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Cosmic.
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And then here we are.
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I think that's pretty cool.
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I think it's just, you know, to see the journey inside the wormhole.
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And we'd just be able to travel anywhere in no time.
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Yeah. I think that's a really fun one.
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I'm trying to think, if I have to pick like an established magical thing that we already know about,
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I think festivals are super cool, just like flying on, you know, Bony ponies is a good time.
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Like really, really just like, no, yeah, no, minor.
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They are, they are staying sober so that they fly straight.
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I think festivals is like a cool vibe to have.
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If I was trying to do something like completely different though and do it, I feel like,
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if we all rode in on a giant tandem bicycle, like we're just all,
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everybody wants to eat after the other, I think that could be a really powerful entrance.
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I just had an idea.
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Okay.
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We could fly in on flying carpets.
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That would be interesting.
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That would be a fun one.
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Like this thing wished, especially designed.
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Yeah, of course, of course.
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They have your question.
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They're illegal.
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Uh-oh.
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Not in dumb strung.
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Not it, not it, not it, not it.
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Not it.
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Not it stands school for magic folk.
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Hello.
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Hello.
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My question is related to my costume.
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Okay.
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You know, Mike, you're not a pet person, but if you could have a magical pet,
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what would each of you choose?
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Oh, if you could have a magical pet, what would you choose?
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I would choose, um,
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Derby doesn't count as a pet does he?
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No.
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Yeah.
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It's a whole messy, uh, debate we could get into for an hour.
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We're gonna, let's just say no.
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I mean a house elf, but you know, that wouldn't be a pet.
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Uh, a niffler.
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A niffler.
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I would love a niffler.
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Mm-hmm.
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Just a little niffler or sniffing around and, mm-hmm.
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I don't have to think.
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I would definitely,
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I think one that would be cute, I know there's,
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it's the crop, the like dog with a little fork tail.
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I think that is very cute,
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but I do worry about a dog being old to high maintenance.
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Um, I do, I do appreciate,
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um, in Sparbury F it as well,
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Newt's commander is a little bow trucker.
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I like that it's a, like, uh, it's a,
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it's a plant and it's also a pet
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and it's also a friend and it's also a cute accessory.
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So I think just the versatility of the bow trucker is really nice
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and I also appreciate a pet that like,
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it's really angry and can defend you.
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Like they can gouge out the eyes of people that have wronged their owner.
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So, um, I'm very big on someone that's gonna step up for me
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and in a pinch, like in addition to all these things,
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is also like a tiny little bodyguard.
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So yeah, I think bow trucker would be my,
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would be my selection.
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Thank you for your question.
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This is a question from my friend.
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What do we think happened to crumb after like the entire series
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and then like, do we think Hermione invited him
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to her and Ron's wedding?
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Um, um, talk about a love triangle.
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Yeah.
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Or do we think you just disappeared
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out the face of the earth and never wishing again?
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Okay.
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Do you think Hermione and Crumb stayed in touch?
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She stayed close enough to be at the wedding?
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I don't see why not.
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I mean, we know that Ron was a huge crumb fan.
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That's true as he was before.
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And why wouldn't you want a superstar attend your wedding?
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Even though he's your future wife's first love.
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So I think they might invite him.
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You know, the gentleman crumb is he would attend happily
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with a few beautiful boobattons maybe,
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just to show Ron what he might be missing out on.
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I could, I could definitely see Hermione and Crumb staying in touch
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and I could definitely see being one of those things where
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Hermione keeps asking around like, are you sure you'll get with this?
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He's like, I totally am and then he's like, I'm not a curfewer.
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Like, he inside hates it but he keeps saying like, no, no, it's fine.
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He would get his autograph.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, he would.
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And it would be a nice conversation.
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Can you imagine, you know, the wedding, like, oh, do you remember back in the days?
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You were boring, you were wearing those robes.
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Oh, oh, oh.
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Oh, throw them off.
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Yeah.
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Thank you for your question.
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All right.
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So mine is kind of related from the other panel.
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I asked about Kirschchild and all of that.
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Okay.
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Harry's son.
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He's got a million names.
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Okay.
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And how do you guys feel that Hagrid isn't one of them?
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Yeah.
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So his name is, it's, what is it?
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Albus.
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Albus Cerverus Potter.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I do think it's funny that of all the names that Harry could have chosen for his kid.
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Given all the, like, lovely, lovely father figures, role models, et cetera, he picks the two
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people who manipulated him for multiple years.
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Like, oh, yeah, this guy who would help him information from me.
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And this guy who hated me for so much of his life.
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And then at the very end, I was like, all right, he's fine.
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I guess his eyes.
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So I think it was a terrible decision.
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I agree with you.
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I feel like naming him, like, Remus Rubius Potter is the correct answer.
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Or some, or at least some other, like, gets, you know, you can get serious.
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Like, there's so many other choices that don't involve Snape and Dumbledore.
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And those are all the guys that was trying to, like, get his mom for, like, his entire life.
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Yeah.
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Super weird.
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The other thing that I didn't notice, I think someone sent me, like, either a Tik Tok or Instagram
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videos, that, like, all of the names utilized for all of Harry and Ginny's kids are all
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Harry choices.
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Like, no one's named after Ruizli.
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No one's named after anyone who's important in Ginny's life.
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It's just like all the names, first name, middle name, even the girl or name and
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thereafter, my mom, like, everything is like me, me, me, me, me.
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And then Ginny's like, oh, I guess I'm here too.
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Like, not a fan of it.
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I don't know if you have any questions.
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I'm interested in that.
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They had three.
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Four, maybe, two, um, well, yeah, it's like, Ginny, you can name the fourth kid.
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Only if his middle name is Hagrid.
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Right.
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Yeah, I agree with you, poor decision on the naming front.
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Thank you for your question.
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Got time for just like, I think we'll do these two and then what got it?
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If you guys had a favorite character, who would it be?
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Okay, a favorite character.
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Is it Crom?
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And if it is, I think you should pick a second one.
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There it is.
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Okay.
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My second favorite.
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You know, when I get asked which character I would love to try and play, that would be Snape.
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Who?
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You know, I love the energy and, you know, the mystery that he carries throughout the entire films.
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And he's a really cool character to play.
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Yeah.
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Complex.
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Obviously, I think Alan Rickman was, you know, Snape himself.
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Right.
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I don't think anyone could ever play a better version of Snape.
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You could do a different version of it.
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Yeah.
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But it depends on, you know, Nordic mountain.
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Oh, Snape's been working out.
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Oh.
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I think for me, my answer to this is always Ginny.
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I genuinely find her to be like inspirational of where I try to fit in life, which is like knowing
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when to be funny, but knowing when to be serious.
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I feel like Ginny kind of towed that line of like, I'll be sentimental and emotional or like, I'll make fun of Harry for being, you know, a dunce.
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So I think like being able to tow that is something that I sometimes struggle with of, you know, not everything is jokes and laughs.
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Like, sometimes you gotta, you know, be there for someone and just drop all the facade of humor.
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So that's my favorite answer.
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I like that she kind of knows that.
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Thank you for your question.
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All right.
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Last question.
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And then we'll go.
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Hi, discussion is for Stanislaus.
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So this is my first leaky con.
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And when I saw your name on the guest list, I was like, I'm googling and refreshing my memory with Victor.
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Okay.
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So it's just I just want to bring up.
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I don't know if this was asked to you in previous events, but there was this certain article that says that it's kind of sad for Victor,
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come that in, you know, in the trivist hard cop, he's the only one that is not close to the one that he needs to save in the lake, because he just met Hermione, right in the school.
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But then the others are like the best friend for Harry and the sister for the ball baton.
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So what's your personal opinion on that?
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Is it kind of sad for him that it happened that Hermione was the chosen one and they just met?
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Well, that just shows what kind of wonderful person Victor Kromase is.
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You know, Hermione becoming his most precious person, you know, to go and save just proves that he wasn't playing around with her, you know, there were feelings involved.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, kind of sad that it wasn't his sister or his brother or someone else, but you know, I think it's it has a unique energy, a unique feel that it was Hermione herself.
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Yeah.
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Because, you know, I've heard a lot of accusations against Krom, you know, being a little bit older and Hermione being a bit younger and, you know, from Hogwarts and Dada Dada.
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But, you know, this proves that he was real, you know, towards her.
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Yeah.
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He wasn't mucking him out.
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I kind of like that.
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I was expecting that you would answer that.
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It's just made me realize that, yeah, Krom is really one of my biggest crush in the movie.
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That's awesome.
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Yes, all right.
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Yeah.
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I kind of like, I'm imagining a fanfiction where like Krom, you know, his whole life, he was so dedicated to Quidditch and they were just training him and training him and his maybe his parents or his coach or his trainer.
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Whoever was like, you got to focus no girls.
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You can only focus on this.
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And then like he finally gets to meet Hermione and that's kind of like his eye opening like, oh, there's other people.
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So maybe he had like a very isolating life before.
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Maybe she gave him a different feeling.
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Exactly.
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He discovers the feeling of love.
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Yeah, it was like love is silly.
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It's only a distraction and then he meets Hermione.
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He's like, actually, love is great.
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And I'm very interested.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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We're going to go, we're going to go write this whole story backstage.
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Thank you for the inspiration.
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But no, we're going to go.
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Thank you all so much for coming out.
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Give it up for a stand-up for being an amazing, amazing guest.
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This was super fun.
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If you were one of the folks who wasn't familiar with Potters who wanted to check it out, did a lot of very fun episodes.
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I did book stuff, I did movie stuff, I did spin-off stuff.
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I've got stuff from Leaky Conds with some of the other folks here.
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You can search for Potters, whoever you get your podcasts.
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We've got something going on the main siege here in a little bit that I will be here for as well.
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The kind of send-off thing.
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But speaking of send-offs, I'm going to send off this Potters, this live is the way that I always did with every single episode.
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The phrase that they definitely say all the time in the books that classic catchphrase.
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What is it on?
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Thank you so much for coming out, everybody.
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Thank you.
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Hi, thank you so much for listening to this episode of Potters.
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This podcast was created, hosted, produced, edited by Mike Sugar, also with the production help of Stephen Hauser.
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I'm rushing really quickly because I got to do stuff for the baby.
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I have a baby now. Me and Kelly had a baby.
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It's really cool. It's fun.
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But it's a lot.
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So I'm going to go, thank you so much for listening.
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Subscribe to all the stuff, the YouTube, the Patreon.
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The podcast, tell people about it.
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See me at the lot shows.
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I really have to go.
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But thank you so much.
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I really appreciate it.
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Okay, thank you for listening.
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Bye bye bye bye.
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Until the next episode of the world, very, very, very, very fun.
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