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Delegating To The Floor - For Directs - Part 2 (Hall Of Fame Guidance)

In this episode of Grid Tools, we conclude our discussion on effective delegation strategies for project managers. We explore the importance of streamlining processes, utilizing templates, and fosteri...

Delegating To The Floor - For Directs - Part 2 (Hall Of Fame Guidance)
Delegating To The Floor - For Directs - Part 2 (Hall Of Fame Guidance)
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spk_0 Welcome to Grid Tools.
spk_0 This week, our conclusion to delegate to the floor.
spk_0 Part two, here we go.
spk_0 So to go back to our list that we had for our project manager,
spk_0 there was a lot of paperwork moving around that list.
spk_0 There were hard copies of things,
spk_0 and our hard copies really needed or is an email trial sufficient.
spk_0 Or maybe there's a PDF document repository that you send out of mail and say,
spk_0 hey, here's the repository.
spk_0 Look, if somebody says to you, no, I like it that there's a lot of all these paperwork.
spk_0 You'd be really, no, that's just wasteful.
spk_0 It costs money.
spk_0 Ink, toner, ink, causes, costs money in our project.
spk_0 Storage.
spk_0 Everybody's printing it.
spk_0 No.
spk_0 No, we've all got laptops.
spk_0 We've all got tablets.
spk_0 No, I created a little internal website.
spk_0 I did it on your own.
spk_0 I'd say people will be like, wow, that's really cool.
spk_0 I'm going to do that on my project.
spk_0 I created this internal website.
spk_0 You can go there before the meetings.
spk_0 You can log into it while you're in the meeting.
spk_0 You can look at the documents on your laptop because our company doesn't forget
spk_0 it laptops during the meeting.
spk_0 Or we will link to it from the thing you can go download any of the PDFs
spk_0 and put them into your projector, put them into your deck.
spk_0 And maybe somebody will still print them, but they'll have to go there and print them.
spk_0 And now you won't be printing them all and distributing them.
spk_0 And people then forgetting them and then, well, why didn't get mine?
spk_0 Yeah, you did.
spk_0 I gave it to you.
spk_0 Mm-hmm.
spk_0 Yeah, good.
spk_0 Can you compile the project, kick off materials once and make a template for next time?
spk_0 There's something that I found myself doing thousands of times.
spk_0 Like three months in a row, I've compiled the same thing.
spk_0 And why, this is silly.
spk_0 Why don't I have a template?
spk_0 If you're in a PMO and you're going to have hundreds of projects starting,
spk_0 there should be a standard template.
spk_0 Yeah, it'll change 5% of the time.
spk_0 But I'll tell you, reinventing the wheel happens all the time.
spk_0 I was just talking to somebody who was I talking to.
spk_0 Oh, I was talking to an IBM consultant, an associate partner about how even at IBM,
spk_0 and this is true at SAP and Oracle, and people saw some other places when they interact with people.
spk_0 They interact with a client.
spk_0 They reinvent the wheel every time on every project about things like project kickoff meetings
spk_0 and logistics and everything else, rather than having a standard way to run a meeting and so on.
spk_0 So yeah, you do that and then you gain those efficiencies every single time,
spk_0 rather than reinventing the wheel and running around in circles like,
spk_0 oh gosh, I've got to get ready.
spk_0 There's hours and hours and hours with work.
spk_0 Now, you do this 10 times a year.
spk_0 It should be minutes worth of work, not hours.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 And there's something about our brains that looks for differences.
spk_0 So if we see five things, then we see the one that's different.
spk_0 So every time we go to our project, we think, oh, it's different from all the others
spk_0 because of this, this and this.
spk_0 But it's probably similar in a lot of more ways than it's different.
spk_0 So we have to train ourselves to look for the similarities and the things that can be templated.
spk_0 Hi.
spk_0 What else?
spk_0 We talked about having a library.
spk_0 Like, do you really need a hard, like a room that's a library of all the past projects?
spk_0 Can you, can you not do that electronically?
spk_0 Because again, you're wasting paper, you're wasting time, you're wasting space,
spk_0 space is expensive.
spk_0 And you're wasting time looking for things when you could use search.
spk_0 So it doesn't work very well in a library because you have to use your finger.
spk_0 And then there were status reports.
spk_0 So do you have to do status reports for each project manager that you're working for?
spk_0 Or could you do one status report that everybody looks at?
spk_0 Can you make it electronic?
spk_0 Is anybody reading them?
spk_0 Is anybody using them? Are they, are they useful?
spk_0 Does anybody notice we've just said this?
spk_0 Does anybody notice if you're late or you accidentally miss one?
spk_0 If nobody notices, delegate her.
spk_0 Okay.
spk_0 And the next step once you've got an idea of what you're doing and what's important or
spk_0 what can be delegated to the floor or done differently so that it takes a lot less time,
spk_0 you review your list with your boss.
spk_0 Now you can just delegate stuff to the floor and see if anybody notices.
spk_0 But depending on your boss, your boss might read that as I just decided not to do some of my job.
spk_0 So you need to have, as Mark said earlier, a trusting relationship,
spk_0 Mark trust me to decide what to delegate to the floor.
spk_0 I trust that if he disagrees with me, he'll just tell me I'll pick it up again and there won't be any drama.
spk_0 But if you don't know your boss that well and you're worried that there will be drama,
spk_0 then you definitely want to go and have him look at the list or go over the list with him.
spk_0 And feel like you've made the decision together.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 Okay.
spk_0 So you want to book a meeting so that you get his undivided attention.
spk_0 You don't want to just like, hey, I decided not to do that report because you're passing in the corridor.
spk_0 That doesn't really give it the importance that it should have.
spk_0 Right.
spk_0 And different disc profiles will react differently to a list of your tasks.
spk_0 So the decent eyes will probably just say, you'll say, so I've analyzed all my work
spk_0 and I'd like to review these things that I don't think are required.
spk_0 And they'll look at the list and go, yeah, whatever.
spk_0 Yeah, it's fine.
spk_0 Yeah, good.
spk_0 Just go do that.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 You know, fine.
spk_0 Is there anything on there that you think is really important to me?
spk_0 Nope.
spk_0 Okay.
spk_0 Fine.
spk_0 Oh, good.
spk_0 Now, guys, if you're an undivided contributor and you're not a manager and you fear that your boss is going to get you in trouble
spk_0 because you don't do something that you think is of lower quality.
spk_0 And I'm not talking about something that your boss asks about every week and you're going to stick your finger in her eye
spk_0 that I'm telling you boss that I'm not going to do it anymore, even though you asked me about it every week.
spk_0 We're not suggesting you commit political suicide.
spk_0 But I could assure you, if anybody who works for me ever in my career can you mean, say, look, boss, hey, short meeting, I'm happy to go over with it, 50 minutes long.
spk_0 I've analyzed the stuff I've been doing the last three months and I think there's some stuff I don't need to be doing anymore.
spk_0 I got a list of it.
spk_0 I want to share it with you.
spk_0 I look at the list for five seconds and go, all right, you cool with this?
spk_0 You're okay if there's risk and you're clear that I'm not, essentially, guaranteeing you won't get in trouble for this stuff.
spk_0 But on the other hand, then it looks like there's, if you've done a good analysis, I'd probably say, then it looks like there's nothing on here that I'd fall on my sword over.
spk_0 Okay, fine.
spk_0 Okay, I don't want to have an hour long conversation with you about this.
spk_0 Now, you might say, oh, Mark's a different boss.
spk_0 I don't know that I am.
spk_0 I'm just a high D. High I boss.
spk_0 And really, more as a boss, I'm much more of a high D.
spk_0 My high D. High I comes more from having to present and having to sell and being the face of the company.
spk_0 But as a manager, I think, I don't know when he may be a discreet, but I think you and Danny and Judy and Maggie would say, no, he's pretty much a high D.
spk_0 Yeah, yeah, during the workouts and talking about what things you don't definitely have to.
spk_0 Yeah, yeah, so guys, don't make your boss the reason you don't do this, particularly again, if your boss is a high D. High I.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 On the other hand, what about a high C?
spk_0 Well, before we go off high C's, one thing I didn't think was the one thing you have to be careful of if these knives is they will ask you later, like three months later.
spk_0 What is that thing? And you'll say, we had a meeting, remember?
spk_0 They were, they were forgotten that they gave you an approval, but that's okay.
spk_0 You just remind them.
spk_0 You're just going to say, wow, yeah, I'm going to say, yeah, okay, I may think about that, but I don't know what we think about it.
spk_0 And then don't forget about it again.
spk_0 Yeah, exactly.
spk_0 Exactly.
spk_0 So revisiting is likely.
spk_0 So high C's all want to go over the details.
spk_0 So you'll have to talk about exactly what those tasks are, who's affected, what contingencies there are, how you're going to be.
spk_0 Pick up again, if it's needed, you know, if they're going to want to have a proper discussion and talk about how you analyzed the list and how you decided on risk and how you decided which went to the bottom of the queue and so on.
spk_0 So it's going to be a longer conversation.
spk_0 It's going to be much more detailed.
spk_0 But afterwards, they'll be confident that you did the right thing that they believe in your analysis.
spk_0 So them were likely not to question it later.
spk_0 Yeah, good.
spk_0 What about high S's?
spk_0 High S's are just be concerned that you might be overworked and that's why you're dropping something.
spk_0 So you want to reassure them that it's not that you're overworked.
spk_0 It's just that you want to be more efficient and you want to be able to do some different things.
spk_0 And that means finding some more time.
spk_0 Right.
spk_0 Yeah, the high S will also think about implications for others in the organization.
spk_0 Of course.
spk_0 And he or she will be thinking, OK, talk about this a little bit.
spk_0 I know that that guy reads this.
spk_0 Are you sure he's OK with it?
spk_0 Did he go talk to him and pave the road a little bit?
spk_0 And that's OK.
spk_0 And those are pretty good suggestions for my D2 have just gone.
spk_0 I'm not doing that.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 So beware.
spk_0 If you don't know what we're talking about here about people's disprofiles you ought to.
spk_0 And we encourage you to go listen to those podcasts.
spk_0 And you can probably figure out your boss pretty straightforwardly if you listen to all of our cast on.
spk_0 On desk, but you ought to know the tendencies of your boss.
spk_0 And you ought to prepare for.
spk_0 What he or she might ask and have answers to that.
spk_0 If you're not ready for those and they ask a bunch of questions that you realize as they're asking them are completely reasonable
spk_0 and you're not prepared for them, then you've probably not done your homework on this.
spk_0 And if you say yourself, oh, I don't have time to do the hours worth of homework to get ready for that meeting.
spk_0 Really, you don't have time to spend an hour in order to gain four or five every day or maybe two every day
spk_0 or even one every day, which is four or five each week.
spk_0 I think you ought to.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 That's the whole object of what you're doing.
spk_0 Why would you, why would you stime yourself at the last panel?
spk_0 So the last part of this is dealing with a pushback.
spk_0 So once you have permission from your boss and you've started dropping things that you've agreed won't be done or moving other things off your plate or making things be done differently.
spk_0 You might get pushed back from the people who are affected.
spk_0 And there's two ways of dealing with that.
spk_0 You can either refer them to your boss or you can handle it yourself.
spk_0 And that depends on how important it is and how big a deal someone's making it.
spk_0 So for instance, if you decided not to order refreshments for a meeting and somebody comes up to you and says, hey,
spk_0 there's the coffee and the doughnuts. Like there's always coffee and doughnuts.
spk_0 The reason I come to this meeting, then you say, hey, I just decided not to order them.
spk_0 Say's a little money. Say's a little time.
spk_0 Exactly. And the coffee beans on level four is open, right?
spk_0 Just walk past it.
spk_0 And most people will drop it because, you know, coffee and doughnuts isn't that important, right?
spk_0 It's not, it's not you choose your battles and that's not a battle you may pull out.
spk_0 Plus you could easily send a note before it's, hey, by the way, guys, I decided to save some time and some company money.
spk_0 We're not going to have coffee and doughnuts at the meeting.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 If you want to bring it, no problem.
spk_0 Yeah.
spk_0 So you think somebody's going to complain about that?
spk_0 No, I don't think so.
spk_0 No.
spk_0 And if it's something else, it's something, you know, slightly more important.
spk_0 Try and find the benefit to them in the fact that you've dropped it.
spk_0 So, hey, I decided not to do this so that I could do this, which is beneficial for you.
spk_0 Whether that's, I decided not to print all the reports so that the state of the report could be more comprehensive.
spk_0 Oh, something.
spk_0 If you make it the benefit for the other person, if you make some of it, the benefit for the other person is amazing.
spk_0 How much more amenable they are to the changes you've made.
spk_0 Right.
spk_0 And if it's something bigger, like not doing a report that, you know, a project manager is up in arms about and, you know,
spk_0 demanding to know who made that decision, then you probably want to refer them to your boss.
spk_0 And that's why you have the conversation with your boss.
spk_0 Before hand, so that, so that she knows what you're not doing and why you're not doing it.
spk_0 And, and this, this two outcomes of that conversation, one is they can bince the person that the task doesn't need doing.
spk_0 Or you get told, hey, that caused more drama than we thought it would, you're going to have to do it.
spk_0 But nothing is forever, right? Nothing.
spk_0 So everything changes. That's the whole point of doing this.
spk_0 We're going to change your change your job to be concentrated on the more important things.
spk_0 But in another six months, you could change it again.
spk_0 So dropping things isn't forever and nor is picking stuff up.
spk_0 Everything changes all the time.
spk_0 So if you're told to pick it up again, it's just like, oh, well.
spk_0 Yeah. And look, somebody pushes back and say, hey, listen, I respect that.
spk_0 Right? I mean, oftentimes we tell you, when you get pushed back, don't immediately respond with push back yourself.
spk_0 You could say, I hear you. Talk to the boss.
spk_0 We agreed to be something we try. I appreciate the input.
spk_0 It's good to know. And I'll keep you posted on what the status is.
spk_0 Now, five people push back. Okay. Maybe go back to boss.
spk_0 They listen, everybody really wants those donuts.
spk_0 And the boss is like, no, no, I've thought about it some more.
spk_0 We're not doing them. Or you say the boss says, okay, well, let's pick it back up.
spk_0 Okay. And maybe, I mean, we're not suggesting this is not fantasy career land.
spk_0 This is not fantasy career tools. So maybe you realize of the seven things I dropped, I have to pick up two.
spk_0 You still have dropped five. And by the way, you're going to experience what I experience when I got fired.
spk_0 Not that you're going to get fired, which is just like in the movie, right is a lost arc.
spk_0 Where Indiana Jones is in the bar and the bad guy gets to drop on him.
spk_0 And he doesn't have his gun. And he realizes he's had the gun goes off.
spk_0 And he reaches down and bats his chest boom, boom like that.
spk_0 And goes, you know, I thought of dead for sure. And he looks up incredulously that that he's not dead.
spk_0 And of course, his girlfriend Karen Allen has shot the bad guy in the back.
spk_0 And the bad guy's dead. And that's what it feels like.
spk_0 You realize I had all of this angst about getting rid of this stuff.
spk_0 And I was afraid it was going to be trouble, but I did it because I thought it was the right thing to do.
spk_0 And it turned out to not be that big a deal. That's false expectations appearing real.
spk_0 If getting fired is like that, then dropping some balls that you were worried would get you in a lot of trouble.
spk_0 And all the angst you'd feared about missing that deadline in the past was all for not.
spk_0 You're going to go, ah, what else do I fear around here that is false?
spk_0 What else am I vibrating about that I ought not to vibrate about?
spk_0 And I'm going to tell you, it's been my experience of the great majority of stuff that I've vibrated about.
spk_0 Turns out not to be a problem other than show him what time for airplanes.
spk_0 And doing your best on the two or three key things in your job.
spk_0 And if you'll give yourself the opportunity to try to see what happens.
spk_0 Even if you have to pick two back up, those five that you were worried about, that your boss said, okay fine.
spk_0 And nobody notices, you're going to start to burn with an energy which says,
spk_0 I'm not doing stuff that I think has a good chance of nobody noticing.
spk_0 I did a bunch of stuff for two years, nobody missed it.
spk_0 And yeah, you can blame the organization, but I assure you, at one point, the person who was doing your job
spk_0 and had to do those things, those things were important.
spk_0 But things change.
spk_0 Things change so slowly, people don't realize the processes, policies, and procedures that you engage in, 30% of it is waste.
spk_0 There was a good reason for it before, and times have changed, and customers have changed, and technologies have changed, and people have changed, and workflows have changed.
spk_0 And now that's no longer valuable.
spk_0 But nobody has time to go back and do a fundamental analysis of every single job to decide what doesn't need to be done.
spk_0 And it's left to you, and the vast majority of us don't do it.
spk_0 Yeah, it's such a valuable skill, I'm sorry.
spk_0 So, so wish I had left it.
spk_0 Yeah, earlier, right?
spk_0 I mean, this is why we're doing career tools.
spk_0 Don't wait until you're, in my case, 55 years old to discover, you can do this stuff.
spk_0 You can do it a lot sooner.
spk_0 Yeah, the younger you are, the lower you are on the organization, the more risk there is.
spk_0 But mitigate your risk by doing a little bit of analysis, right?
spk_0 Analyze your work.
spk_0 Choose carefully.
spk_0 Review with your boss.
spk_0 Be willing to pick it back up.
spk_0 Be polite to people who push back.
spk_0 If one person pushes back, it's not an issue.
spk_0 If five push back, okay, consult with your boss.
spk_0 This is hard the first time you do it.
spk_0 You worry about getting in trouble, and then suddenly two or three years later, you realize,
spk_0 I'm no longer going to worry about that.
spk_0 I'm going to worry about what I'm going to worry about is the stuff I'm doing that doesn't need to get done.
spk_0 I'm going to be willing to be pinched periodically in return for getting 30 to 40% of my time back
spk_0 to work on the things that I know are really important.
spk_0 That's the answer.
spk_0 It's completely addictive.
spk_0 Yeah, it is.
spk_0 That's exactly right.
spk_0 And better to be addicted to dropping things from your work list than a lot of other things.
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spk_0 That is it can worry.
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spk_0 You may feel an effort in theiricional to any of the things you want these days.
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spk_0 Hope it was worth your time.
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