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59. Deeper in Christ
In this episode of the Let God podcast, hosts Onee Pa, Mary Hannah, and IFA dive into the topic of deepening one's faith and relationship with Christ. They explore practical ways to become doers ...
59. Deeper in Christ
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Hi guys, welcome back to the Let God podcast. It's me onee pa. Me and Mary Hannah and me
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IFA. Woooo! Guys, we are back with another episode today. We are slowly but surely making
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our way through the topics that are in our anonymous Google Form. So thank you so much
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you guys for engaging with us and continually sending stuff in there. And today's topic
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is all about deepening faith, deepening your relationship and intimacy with Christ. You
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guys voted on a poll on our Instagram story and this was the second most popular topic
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next to Love, Sex, Periods and Intimacy which if you haven't listened to go hit up our
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last episode it was fire if I do say so myself. And that's what to MH's mum. MH's mum said
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that she loved that episode. She a queen of that. Oh she did actually. Yes. Thank you
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auntie. But as always before we begin we're going to open with a word of prayer.
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Do you have a follow-up? We thank you for today and the opportunity that we have to just
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meet together and to talk about things that matter to your children and to us and to
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you. Father, we ask that you would leave this conversation Holy Spirit and I'm
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going to speak through us and help us to have the right words to say in response to these
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questions. And just give us the wisdom that we need father to just impart your heart
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father to your kids and yeah just let your heart be known and just show us how to cultivate
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a relationship with you and deepen and strengthen our relationship with you even as we mature
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and as seasons of our lives. Change, we love you and we thank you father and your name
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I pray. Amen. Amen. So before we get into the meat of the topic we are going to start
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with an icebreaker and today's question because guys we know that sometimes we leave you
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for extended periods of time. No, we're sorry. But to make up for that our icebreaker today
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is the good, the bad and the funny of what's happened to you guys this past week. Just
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so you can feel like you know like we still catching up like you still in tune with our
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lives. So, um, MH why don't you go first? The good, the bad and the funny. Okay, the good,
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the bad and the funny. Good. I am a teacher y'all so I teach in a school in Georgia. Kind
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of close to where I live not really close but that's besides the point. I want something
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which to be honest I don't understand how I want or what I want. No, I know what I want
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but I don't know how I want it and I ask the person anyway I want to check for a lunch
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and it was great like I haven't had chick for a minute. I thought you had to say like teacher
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of the district or something like that. No, no, no, like one like literally a price. So
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I won this little thing. It was like it was just pre-chick for a lunch and I was just
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really wholesome you know that random things on a Friday like did I have to pack my lunch
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like just when I had a little milkshake it was great. I really enjoyed it. I was like that
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was my good it was a little pick me up. Uh, bad I'm a bit under the weather so I took the
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day off actually on Thursday that was my first day off at my big girl job ever so I felt
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like wow this is like adult pain. That's great for MH's healing. Thank you thank you I
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received a Jesus name. Yeah, I was a bit 40. I'm sort of a 40 way you know I just live
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but getting a bit cold. A funny funny. Uh, this isn't funny but actually it's hilarious.
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It was my daddy's birthday yesterday. Happy birthday daddy. He won't be listening to this
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but anyway it was my daddy's birthday yesterday and we were just having the other key at the
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didn't done a dining table and my some of my extended family staying with me and we were just
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talking about weddings and how we think how I personally think they're a scam and how other
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people just spend like exil between amounts of money on them and um my uncle did this amazing
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impression of like how Nigerian moms like of weddings is about them like it's not about the
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bride and the groom it's about like how you're gonna come in and like show in and be like
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greeting people with this like half dance half. I didn't know you had to describe it it was just hilarious
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but then he said at the point about like how people spray if you are not familiar with like
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African specific I'm not sure if it's specific to West Africa it might be West African cultures
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about spraying people so like having wards of cash and when people are dancing you just
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literally like I don't know how to describe it you make it rain like that's what you mean.
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So if people are like when there's a function of any sort like a birthday wedding
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any place that is a public function that you can be dancing if it's Nigerian
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potentially West African there's gonna be money sprayed and so he was talking about like people
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have weddings and have really big functions just so that they can be sprayed like it's a money-making
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venture it's like you know that you're giving these and I don't blame them
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really mean it there but maybe laugh because he was like even you like you could be like a plus
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five to a wedding but people will spray you just because like you look nice people will spray you
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like you don't know the celebrate you'll be sprayed and I just thought like that's kind of sick
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but also it's hilarious because I would totally take advantage of that if I lived if I lived
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on the mainland or you know if I was deep in my Nigerian community bag but that's my good
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bad and funny. I love that. I am free. I can't really think of a good right now so I stick to the
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bad. Oh no. Sorry. So my bad is during the week my bike tire punctured so I have to get it replaced
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which is quite expensive but normally I go to the same people and they give me a discount because
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they always see me but I couldn't lug it all the way to them. It's time to get to a new person who
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gave me normal price which is sad. Yes that's my bad but it's fixed now so thank god.
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For good I would say one of my favorite parts of my week is when I get to see my housemates
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so currently we're on different placements so we're around the area but not in the same city during
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the week so when we're all home together we have a little debrief and like talk about our
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unique and like have dinner together and just chill so that's my good part of my week. That's
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my the best part of my week. Turns of funny. Say funny was that. Currently I started a new life
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group. I connect group and basically like a small Bible study from church and it turns out that
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four of us no five. Yeah four or five of us are basically from the same city where we grew up
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like minutes away from each other like one of the girls she went to the school that was
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that three or five minutes away from me so yeah that was my funny just weird how people's paths
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cross. Oh that's cute. I love that. So my I'm gonna put my good and bad together. My bad was one day
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I stayed at work this week until like 10 pm which was not fun at all but the good is on that same day
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I met one of our lovely let-go pod listeners. A graduate recruitment event at the firm I work
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out and it was really sweet. I always get so shy and embarrassed whenever I was like oh I know
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you I listen to podcasts I'm like I want to run away but it was very sweet she was she was very
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lovely so shout out to her and the funny it's technically we are still in the outer parameter of my
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birth week so I'm gonna say my birthday which was last Saturday to me the whole endeavour was just
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hilarious I had a wonderful time personally so that's my three hashtag Jordan year hashtag praise god
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that's lovely girls. Okay like I said earlier the topic of today's episode is kind of deepening
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faith and intimacy with god so we just have four questions from the google form that we're gonna
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address. Perhaps I can read out the first one. Sure. So this person wants to talk about being a
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doer of the word and not just the hearer of the word and that's taken from James 1 22 to 23.
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How to not remain complacent in your relationship with god. How to rebuke people in a loving way
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how to lean on and listen to the Holy Spirit, identity and Christ, God in your heart,
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prioritizing God in all areas of your life. What does love and God with all your heart, mind and soul
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look like? Okay that was a lot. Thank you so much for that question. How do you guys want to
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break it down and address that? We can just do question my question right? Yeah. Maybe we just
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take like a couple of us take one each because it'll be a lot if we discuss all discuss them all I think.
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I think we can each do one. Yeah. And then go round.
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I can start with the James 1 one. Uh huh. So I'm gonna respond to the to the beginning of the
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question about being a doer of the word and not just the hearer of the word. I've just gone to James.
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Sorry. I'm gonna pill it up again. I've just gone to James and I want to read that passage just so
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that we're all on the same page. Um forgive me y'all. Mother in me yeah. Okay here we are.
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So it says here verse 22 but don't just listen to God's word you must do what it says otherwise
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you're only fooling yourself. For you listen to the word in Don't obey it is like glancing at your
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face in a mirror and then 24 verse 24 and 25 say you see yourself walk away and forget what you
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look like but if you look carefully into the perfect law that sets you free and if you do what it says
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and don't forget what you heard and God will bless you for doing it. Um after that this reminds me of
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something we spoke about I can't remember what season how long ago but we've definitely discussed
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the passage in Romans where it talks about God holding us accountable for the convictions that we have
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the revelations that he's given us and I think that comes into this idea about being a doer of the
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word and not just a hear in terms of obviously as you grow as a person and as you grow in your spiritual
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life you will have new understandings of God and of your faith and that's the beauty of it the
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revelation or the understanding that you have of God or about a specific thing at 16 is not the
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revelation you're gonna have at 22 is not the revelation you're gonna have at 30 is not the revelation
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you're gonna have at 45 it's continually growing even if the foundation of who God is stays the same how
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that is how that comes how that comes into fruition in your life changes and so I think when
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when the scripture talks about being a doer of the word not just hear a hear of it I think it talks
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what what the writer and what God's intention for us is when we understand something or God blesses
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us with a new understanding or bring something to our intention whether for us to improve upon or
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implement into our lives it is our responsibility to invite the Holy Spirit into helping bring that
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understanding of our revelation into reality like and in reference to the James 2124
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what you call analogy about looking at yourself in the mirror and then turning away it's like
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if you have the like for example I've started going to the gym which is so not my aesthetic but we
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thank God for growth I started going to the gym to better my lifestyle and such and it's like
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if I decided I looked to myself in the mirror one day and was like oh I'm not happy with my body
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where I feel like I can be Lena or multi-owned or you know you know whatever the reason is that I
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hypothetically wanted to go to the gym it would do me no good to look at myself in the mirror and
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then be like well that's just the end of it and do nothing with the understanding or with the
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desire that I have to be better I actually have to put into practice the routine or the regimen of
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going to the gym and if I'm going to take protein will be intentional about like weight gain or
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muscle training or whatever the right terms are that necessitates a certain amount of discipline
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and a certain amount of cognizance of like not only the goal that I have but where I am and how long
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and what is necessary to take what is necessary to get me from where I am to where I want to be
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and I think it's the same thing in scripture like if you something is brought to your attention
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let's say for example it's the music you listen to God will hold you accountable for the understanding
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that you have about the role that music plays in your life that's just a really random example but
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I think it's puttin it to a lot of us and so it's like if God's bought that to your attention
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and you're like okay I got to I should probably swap some things out of my rotation or at least for
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period I mean I'll really be super intentional about what I listen to or what I can see if you take
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that information and you do nothing with it that's being a hair out but not a doer of the word
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whereas whereas inviting the Holy Spirit into that decision making whether it's like
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cutting things from your rotation completely some artists or you know being intentional about
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listening to edifying music or gospel whatever the situation necessitates that's being a doer of
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the word I hope that makes sense but that's my response to that one that was a word thank you so much
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no I also just wanted to say that the passage MH was referring to I think is Romans 14
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oh Romans 14 yeah Romans 14 where it kind of talks about not modeling your spiritual walk
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on somebody else's just because somebody who's strong in their faith does something which you're
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not comfortable with doesn't mean you should do that because you say oh that person does that
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and everything that doesn't come from faith is sin so yeah
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okay say the second part with a question says how to not remain complacent in your relationship with
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God and one thing I would say about this question is that often especially when you've been a
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Christian for such a long time it can be easy to get cut and quote used to God or to grow content
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yeah and and the way not to remain complacent in your relationship with him is to I guess
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remain excited to be with him and that could be in different ways that could be switching up
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the sermons you listen to you switching up and your Bible plans but more than anything just
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finding what you really enjoy and so isn't just the same so that you don't feel like you're forced to
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do certain things but it's you're doing them because you enjoy them so because you enjoy reading
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a Bible because you enjoy worshipping because you enjoy I guess just spending time with him and I
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think that was the best way not to remain complacent with the relationship with God just to remember
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that it is a relationship and it is a two way thing and just as relationships with friends and
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loved ones are dynamic so your relationship with God should be I think another way to
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make sure that you don't remain complacent is also to ask him to reveal things to you and
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just remember that is a journey that sometimes it can seem a bit boring and sometimes might be
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more dynamic and exciting but as long as it's a journey is going forward um yeah that should be
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our end goal to always get close to God and know and to be able to spend more time with him and find
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out more about him and as long as that that's your end goal and that you keep reminding yourself
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of that then by God's grace you'll be complacent thank you so much okay so the third part of this
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question was how to reboot people in a loving way my guys I might need some of your input
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why did I get the hard one um I think okay firstly as a prerequisite I feel like your question
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kind of alluded to for me what is the central tenet of like rebuking or correcting or um yeah just
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guiding people in a way that is Christlike and that's to do it like out of love I think as long as
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love is the motivation I think whenever you are perhaps thinking that you need to have a conversation
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with somebody about something that may need to change I think just make sure that your intention
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is loving and that you're really going at it with this mindset of you know I really just want
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the best for this person or like I just want them to be able to see Christ in this way or to just
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you know just just correcting um people with gentleness and kindness and uh the Bible even talks
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at various points about I guess some of the more formal ways that um the early church were encouraged
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to deal with um squabbles and disputes and things like that and and Galatians 6-1 um says that if
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anyone's caught in transgression those of you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of
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gentleness keep watch on yourself less you to be tempted um so yeah I think that the fact that
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the Bible emphasizes gentleness I think it's also um difficult to know when it is and isn't your
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place to rebuke someone I think as a first step to anything like pray for that person and also just
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like pray that God will be able to guide you in in the way that is best for you to go forward um but
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it's a difficult one and if I'm honest not something that I am particularly well-busted I don't
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think I can think of a situation where I've come to someone and be like to rebuke them or to say
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I think you're you're doing this and you need to to change your life both you guys think
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I was gonna just only say I think it's so important to know whether it's your role to rebuke someone
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or whether it's your role to like support them or whether it's your role to just be quiet or to like
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be a safe space for them I think in general and our society I hate that phrase but you know
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and I society like this such an idea of like you know you got to tell people what's the truth
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you know or like you got to walk protect your space and like be not quick but be hyper conscious of
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like what's working for you and what's not working for you but as I've grown up and like
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I had different friendships relationships professional and personal I've learned to value like
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even if things are not necessary like some things I see in other people are not for me to correct
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and not in the sense where I feel like I'm everybody's therapist or everybody's mother
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but there have been recent situations where I'm like somebody did something that was really wrong
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if not to me but just like holistic or I don't think how they approached that was right and it's
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having like repercussions on how I view them and how other people view them
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but I came to the conclusion that like I think I'd be serving them less than rebuking them as a
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poster just being there for them and allowing them to work through something genuinely on their own
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or allowing somebody else who has a deeper proximity or better proximity to them to like
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address this so I think for me sometimes it's just like knowing is it my role to rebuke in any case
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like there's some things that like you should definitely like if it's your friend caution them on
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like my friends will caution me on things I will caution them on things but I think rebuke is very
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it's very sensitive I think the most important thing is to understand if that's the
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if that's a position you're supposed to be taking in the first place
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yeah I can't lie I don't have too much Elter add MH I think that was a very
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hurts next point I think this this is just a difficult thing in general and not if I'm being
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real about something I've probably actively thought about too much I mean I think so honestly yeah
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I've never been like to rebuke it sounds so it sounds so religious to rebuke someone
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because I'll easily tell my sister girl you get on my last nerve like return my dress
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but that's not a rebuke you know what I mean when I think of the word rebuke I kind of think of like
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this person in the congregation is was caught in sin and we must rebuke and we're kind of like
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good if you don't just get down on your knees and pray for that but matter of fact buy your head
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Amen but yeah I totally get that
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okay so the next question says I've been a Christian my whole life but I've barely been a child of God
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it's my first year at college and I just want to growing God I just want to give my whole life to him
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I want to stop being a fake Christian and just put my life in his hands
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with things like anxiety depression trauma and even suicidal thoughts stop me I just need advice
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and some biblical knowledge to help me
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firstly thank you for sending that and for your honesty so we really appreciate you trusting with
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us with this the first thing that um jump to mind while we were reading this question is just um I think
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don't downplay the significance of you acknowledging where you're at and that you would like to and need to make a change
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I think the fact that you know that perhaps you've been ostensibly on a walk with God but I've never really found that deep intimacy tells you that the Holy Spirit is kind of like knocking on the door of your heart
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and I think it's always a good thing you know you don't want to be shut off from his voice and the fact that you're even still like
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cognizant of your need to be deeper and more intimate tells you or reminds you at least that God is
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constantly waiting for you and kind of gently ushering you closer to him
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so I think take comfort in that and I think it's so easy to be disparaging of ourselves and critical of our journey and where we are and where we're not but like
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the fact that you even still wanting to be on this journey is is beautiful in itself I remember one time um speaking to MH and just like
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y'all if anybody in this world knows the deepest turmoil that I go through in my heart other than God it's FH
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and um I was just kind of being real with her one time just like girl like why do I just always make the same mistakes
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one thing about me like I will make the same mistake multiple times I promise you that before I learn and you know she was just
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she said something to me one time like at the end of the day like when we get to heaven
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God is gonna look at your whole life and he's just gonna be like thank you just for sticking with me you know
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and it's so much better to go through these ups and downs but with him than to be totally outside of him
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so that was just what I wanted to start by saying um but yeah anyone else feel free to jump in
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I'm just rereading the question things like anxiety depression charm even so as I don't
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thought start me I think college is such university is such an interesting place because like
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even in this system for so long and then you get thrown into this location where you still have
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some sort of structure but it's like giving you a taste of adulthood with people who are maybe
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super similar to you and people who couldn't be more different and you're just sort of like finding
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the world and yourself for the first time so um I really applaud you again for like recognizing
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your need of God at such a crucial time in your life where a lot of people are like actually not
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sure if this Jesus thing is for me anymore so see it so I think that's really beautiful I would totally
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recommend like on a practical level like getting into a church community if you can with this
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one that you trust it might not even be like this church is like you'll you find your best friends
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there the people who do like love that for them but might just be a place that you know that you
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can go on a Sunday more Saturday and somebody you're gonna receive a good word and you're gonna
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have a time of worship and somebody's gonna you knew have people to pray for you and it could
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just be as simple as that because I think I've said it before and I'll say again like I think
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sometimes you don't we take for granted how much other people's faith can really carry a
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stream of it that we need and that's all to say that like you having a half-hearted relationship
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with God will be enough as long as like your friends and your family pray for you that's not what
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I'm saying but I'm saying that sometimes where you don't know where to begin other people's prayers
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will help you start um and so not to neglect that and like for the more serious things like anxiety
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depression and trauma working on those things in quote unquote secular environments can be is just
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as just as beneficial if your college has services that help with things like that then totally
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take advantage of them um and yeah as a girl said like if you have the hotics clear that you are
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willing to like want to as you said give your life give your whole life over to to God and stop
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being a fake Christian I just think maybe it's just it's worth identifying where you think
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this quote unquote fakeness stems from is it that you're not completely convinced of
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the things that you say that you are or you feel like your cause playing or your obedient for a
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specific reason because I think they we've all been situations like that like even this year
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I remember speaking to a friend who I loved daily they're not really religious um
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anymore they grew up in a religious background but they're not religious anymore and I was speaking
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about something and they gave me they said something really powerful to me which really made me
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reconsider like how I approach things I come uh like purity and like well so pretty much like sex
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and intimacy and stuff like that and they were basically seeing like in their experience um
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while they were religious they had had this idea about uh purity that was predicated on like
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avoiding shame and about not feeling like this shame about oh my god I kissed the body oh my god
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I slipped the body as opposed to being like oh I am believing these things because I think this is
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God's best for me or because I'm holy convinced of that and I think the dissonance um between
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those things can sometimes get us caught up and I totally understand that feeling like a fake Christian
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in that regard like doing something because it's convenient or because it's easy to cause play
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like that's the right thing to do but not being holy convinced of it in a way that is actually
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foundational to your life I totally empathize with how that um how can that how that can be a really
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tumultuous experience but I think yeah giving yourself time and also praying about it and being like
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I'm not convinced of this if it's a matter of being like convinced of a specific belief or not
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really understanding um a specific idea to more deeper things like letting things go or um
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you know re-evaluing relationships or worldviews or things like that I think you can even
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it's you can even pray for God to help you with the things that he's called you to like
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God help you be obedient God help me to learn how to sacrifice um he's not expecting you to do
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any of those things on your own which is why scripture that says that his strength is made
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perfect in our in our existence um hey man
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that was beautiful image
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shout to my friend you know like some people don't even know that the Lord is using them
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they don't even know the Lord is using them for real and God bless them
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God bless them okay let me read the next question is that we'll have to say on this one
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else I believe so okay let me see next question I know who God is in my heart but sometimes when
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I read the word I'm filled with questions especially about God's character it makes me stay
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away from reading the word I know it's fruitful to read my Bible and something and it's something
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I want to do badly but how do I get past this discomfort when reading the word
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who shall I I think um I think if you read the Bible just as like a piece of like literature
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it's not going to be no sense and I say that because it's like especially in the Old Testament
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when you're reading about things like people dying and you know God striking down nations
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it's something I have struggled with a lot and I just kind of felt like what was this all for
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because in my worldview and how I understand things I was like this don't make sense especially
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since I thought the whole plot of this book was God is love so how is this loving and I think it
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wasn't until I was intentional about studying the things that made me most uncomfortable studying
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them with people who I trusted and who had a good like theological base I think that was helpful
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but also not being afraid of actually diving into the verses that don't necessarily sound so
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fruity and nice um I don't think that God wants us to hide from any part of him because like
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the Bible says that every word of scripture is God breathed and it's there for our teaching and for
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our building up and so that really does mean every word and I think firstly acknowledging what
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in the Bible doesn't sit comfortably with you and not being afraid to actually explore that deeper
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the other thing I would say is really every time you pray remember that the word of God is alive
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and it is active and it's something that is gonna as you confront it is going to confront you as
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you read it it's gonna read you back and I don't think you can enter into that kind of zone or that
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kind of space to be like to you can't enter into that arena to wrestle if I'm being real because
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sometimes it is like wrestling with with passages if you don't pray and it sounds strange because
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it's kind of like okay I'm having this comfort with God so I'm gonna ask God to prepare me to go
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into that but I really feel like a very um powerful prayer is to ask for God to give you the eyes to
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see him in every word yeah and to really like be able to see his character and to be able to just
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give you an open heart and an open mind and I can't go through and give you explanations for every
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single instance or passage of scripture that I found difficult to reconcile initially because there
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are still some which I find really difficult to reconcile um but I will say like just take them
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one at a time and like we've said so many times on this podcast like we have a lifetime with God
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and then God willing and eternity more there's no way that we're gonna understand everything all at once
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and there's no there's no call on us that's not what we are on this earth do is to understand every
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single passage of scripture by the time where 30 or 35 or even by the time that we die so I think
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be patient on the journey and um understand that God will reveal to you what you need at that
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particular time and be okay with not understanding everything initially because it's a lot to deal with
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