Technology
471 - $1,800 Fridges Will Start Showing You Ads
In this episode of Red It On Reddit, hosts Nelson Allen and Michael Campbell dive into the controversial topic of Samsung's new $1,800 fridges that will display ads. They discuss the implications...
471 - $1,800 Fridges Will Start Showing You Ads
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Hello and welcome to Red It On Reddit!
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The Internet's Auditory version of Red It I'm Nelson Allen.
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I'm joined by Michael Campbell.
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Absolutely pleasure, Nelson.
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Campbell, you've got a bone to be with you just straight off the bat.
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Last week, several weeks ago, you had to complete that we had to spend money on using this software that we do to remotely record.
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I jump on today and what does it say?
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Right at the top, cancel maybe your report.
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Well, it's funny. I do use this program mainly for that podcast.
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But it's fun.
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Oh, is that the case?
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Campbell.
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We have always recorded it here, by the way.
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Yeah.
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But a little update on that is we use it the once.
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So I was like, oh, well, we don't use that often.
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I'll cancel it and just grab it when I need it again.
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But then they did that little promo and they gave us three months for free if I didn't cancel it.
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Oh, that's pretty good.
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That's the one thing you did.
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They always get you in that.
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I only have one thing to also, a little sorry to tell you off the top.
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It doesn't relate to Red It.
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Which is that last night I went out for dinner.
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We went to a Mexican place in city.
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It was kind of fancy.
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It has like a, you could do like this set menu and all that kind of stuff.
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And I had been drinking cocktails, but I knew I had to drive home eventually.
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So when the guy came over and said, you want another drink?
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And I said, yeah, do you have anything like what?
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No, alcohol.
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Do you have like a cola?
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I thought maybe they had Mexican cola or something.
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He goes, hmm.
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Yeah, there's this one drink I can get you.
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I forget the name of it.
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But it basically he brought out what is kind of like a milk drink with like cinnamon
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and whatever.
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And I think he'd be like, oh, he wanted something like sweet or and whatever.
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Okay.
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And I was like, right, so that's like the kind of the closest thing to like a cola you have.
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He's like, yeah, yeah.
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Okay, like fine, fair enough.
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What was it exactly?
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I was like, what was nice?
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Okay.
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And then like five minutes later the table next to us, he goes to the guy, he's your lemon-aid sir.
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And I was like, you don't think that's closer to a cola like another soft drink?
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I didn't.
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No.
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Like not really flavor wise.
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You don't have to.
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I sort of, I'm sort of on his, I mean, neither are close.
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I think because lemonade is so different to coke.
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I would have thought that they're both soft drinks like carbonated in fact.
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In fact, cinnamon might even be an ingredient in an ingredient.
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Well, honestly, part of me is like, did he think I wanted brown?
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Is that what he's like?
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He wants brown drink.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Don't have a cola, but I do have brown drink.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you could have said what soft drinks you got.
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Go on.
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It's like very specific.
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Well, I originally said, do you have a soft drink maybe a cola?
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Like, it's trying to be like, I assume you don't have like coke necessarily.
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But I know that, yeah, there's like Mexican colas and different.
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Yeah, it's funny.
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It's like, oh, he missed red.
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Like, the drinking up in his early eyes, it's funny just to be like, oh, we were talking
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two different things.
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Yeah, I guess so.
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Well, that's a life lesson for a soul.
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Isn't it, Campbell?
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If you sometimes when you ask for cola, you're going to get some milk with something.
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Yeah, you got to get a milk, a cinnamon-y milkshake.
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I came up with this.
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Let's get into it.
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This first reddit on reddit was cross-priced to us by just judging reddit.
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And it was in the subreddit, not the onion.
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And it was originally by Guillemason reddit.
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Samsung confirms it's $1800 fridges.
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We'll start showing you ads.
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Man, I hate this so much.
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You and I both have Samsung TVs.
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Oh, yeah.
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And I hate that on the main menu where you get between apps.
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There's like many ads.
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Like they've sold that space as well.
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You see?
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At least maybe, actually, you might as well, maybe my interface is newer.
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We've got like more than newer TV.
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There's the banners at the top, obviously, of like, you know, what's on Disney Plus and whatever.
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Which I feel is kind of okay if you're subscribed to those services.
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But then they just sell other ads there as well.
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So there's like a billboard at the top of your home screen menu now on Samsung TVs.
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Right, yeah.
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Which I don't know.
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It irritates me.
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The creep of ads into everyday life.
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Yeah, it just into every product.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty annoying.
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For, this is the problem.
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It's, for me, it's that you're paying in this situation.
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Yeah, although the TV's much more that you're paying so much for the product itself.
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Yeah, if it were free, here's a free fridge.
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By the way, sometimes it'll play a some apps.
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Or it was like, there's the $1800 one or you can get it for $1,000, but it has ads.
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So you know you're saving some kind of money.
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I understand because I don't know if you saw the announcement recently that meta have created these new Rayband glasses that have a display in them.
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Yeah, a little hard display one of your lenses that you're using.
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I've seen Chris Hemsworth and Spricklose came back.
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No, newer ones than that. Those ones don't have displays.
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This has a little hard in the lens.
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I've always said Chris Hemsworth is trash.
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He supports trash products.
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These have really new. They're going to announce maybe two weeks.
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They've got a little projector.
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It's Google gloss basically.
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They've got a little projector on the inside and they'll show you directions.
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It's a little hard display.
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And all I can think of is knowing that it's meta, they will eventually sell you ads into your eyes.
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Yeah, just as you're walking around, you get pop up ads and stuff.
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Because they're not making money from just selling you the product and then being leaving it at that.
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They've got a service that constantly goes along with that.
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What they're doing at the moment, because they are honestly quite impressively,
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like, you know, far from me to complement meta a company that I think is fucking atrocious.
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You love Mark Zuckerberg.
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You said it to me so many times.
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You said don't bring this up whenever I love it.
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I love what he's doing.
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Oh no, I think he's normal.
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What they're doing is they're actually doing like pretty cutting-edge revolutionary tech
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and selling it at a pretty decent price.
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Like their quest headsets, a lot of people theorize that they are either breaking even or losing money on headsets.
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But they're getting themselves in the market as like the one.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Then that is established.
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They will start to monetize it.
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So, these Ray Bands are like, I think they're about $600.
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Which is expensive for sunglasses, but for what it is,
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honestly, is like not that crazy a price.
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Yeah.
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Once people are used to it, they'll start showing heads in your face.
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Yeah.
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I think a lot of great companies do that when they get onto something good.
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That's like the strategy.
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I mean, you could say that about Apple and the iPhone, really.
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I think that probably the first model was something that they were making money off-site.
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It was still short, but probably cheaper than it would have been.
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There's a lot of, you know, like even consoles, so like PlayStation, Xbox.
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Yeah.
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They cost more than they sell them for.
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Yeah, but they get money off the games, right?
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They get money off the games, yeah, because they understand that like you just need to be at an acceptable price
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where the people buy slightly different, I think kind of it's there.
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Yeah.
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It's interesting.
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I do know for a fact that Google did this with Google Harm when that was first coming out.
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There was a bit of competition between Google Harm and Amazon Alexa and a few other smart speakers.
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So Google was selling this so cheap that purely just to be like where the one, we are the established thing.
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And our company is, I mean, so is Amazon.
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Our company is big enough that this doesn't need to be a profitable division.
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We need to just win.
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So for a while, I remember when I brought my one, they were 30% off and buy one, get one free.
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So they just wanted you to have them in your house so they could, you know, flood the market.
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There's another thing that happened recently, also games related, funnily enough, but Xbox has a thing called Xbox Game Pass.
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And just the other day, they had to raise a subscription by 50%.
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And I think there's now less games.
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And like for ages, pretty much since it came out, I've been listening to people like video game podcasts
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and like, I don't know, just in the general, Zyte Guys, I guess there's people have been like, this is unsustainable.
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This is not going to work.
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There's no way that they can give you this many games for this cheap price and still pay the publishers or the developers.
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People are like, this is growing over the developers, this is going to be.
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And then I think some of the developers are like, no, we're getting okay money for this.
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We're happy to do this.
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But obviously it's because they were just trying to dominate the market.
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Because obviously their competition is steam.
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People just outright paying for games.
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And now I heard that their website crashed the other day because so many people were trying to get some subscriptions.
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But yeah, it's interesting for some of these things.
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I mean, I've always been a supporter of ads for free stuff.
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I agree.
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I think like YouTube and Twitch and stuff like that, I think especially when there is a creator on the other end that's potentially getting a little bit of money for it as well, I think.
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Yeah, that's a model I support because I understand that running all these things is not cheap.
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But the biggest issue I have about the Samsung fridges and the TV is that I, well, I suppose there is a little bit.
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Well, I was thinking that the reason why you need ads is because you've got ongoing support for this thing.
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And maybe TVs have changed this day and age where it's like, well, we don't, you're not just getting the box anymore and whatever.
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And you can use it offline, where there's lots of like moving parts in the back of this interface and this, this stuff going on in the background where you're maybe constantly getting updates, which helps for, you know, running certain files on your TV or something that you otherwise would have to buy a new TV feel.
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So maybe there's some justification there.
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I'm not sure what that is for a fridge, though, where there's like ongoing costs for a fridge based on the whatever interface or something that Samsung has created.
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And I just feel like I don't, I also don't need that.
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Yeah, you don't.
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I would say that neither of us have a car fancy or new enough to have a interactive integrated screen.
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But my question, there's two questions.
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Are they running ads on those and two, if they're not, how long until they are running ads on the car screens, you get in your car?
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I like a man in your car when you have to watch a 15 second unskippable ad.
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Before you get into your car play system.
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Yeah, that would be pretty funny.
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Can't be sure we start this.
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Oh, that's good.
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We'll sell the idea.
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Yeah, I, that is a funny idea.
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I mean, they obviously having cars now with subscription services.
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I know there was that.
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Was it BMW or something?
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Yeah, is that a Mercedes or something?
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Yeah, he's had the seat warmers there.
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The people are pointing out like the functionality is built in.
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What they're unlocking is the ability to use it.
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Yeah, the guy already has it.
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They just want you to pay to use it.
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Yeah, it's not like they have to do anything.
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They're just unlocking a feature that is already in the car.
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Although, they're just going to be wasted.
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Yeah, it's not like it's like, oh, you paid for this without the mechanical expensive pieces.
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No, no, we spent the money and put that in already.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that is a bizarre one.
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The other creep I don't like is Adobe.
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I know I've been accused of this is, you know, used to just be able to,
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you could buy Photoshop.
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Right.
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And you would always have that model and that version of it
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unless you wanted to upgrade and then you'd have to buy it again.
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Or if you maybe couldn't afford it because it was pretty expensive.
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Or you wanted to be modularly, you could subscribe to it for a monthly fee.
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And it would just keep updating.
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And just slowly, they're phasing out the ability to actually just purchase it outright.
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And you could go and leave a subscribe to it.
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Yeah.
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Because they're like, oh, tens out.
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This is adding a sway more money.
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Yeah.
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So it's like you can't really own an Adobe product anymore.
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Yeah.
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You could only rent it from them.
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Yeah.
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I hate that.
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Yeah.
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Me too.
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But that's like the thing right because they probably again,
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it might have been a situation where they're like not running as profitably.
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As they could have been in the in the at the start.
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But they're just known as like they're the industry standard.
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They've won over the market kind of to some degree for some of these, you know,
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graphic programs.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, we need that.
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Canber.
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What are we industry standard for that we can?
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Is it is it this?
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Well, we don't run ads on this podcast.
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Yeah, but one day.
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One day.
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Okay.
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It's going to be 90% ads.
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We just need it.
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We just if we can get our audience like times our audience by like 10,000.
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Then then one day bam.
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All the ads in the world.
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They just mainly ads.
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It's like it's like 10 minutes of us.
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And but it's too late because everybody's like, oh, well, I'm subscribed.
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It's so hard not to you now.
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So do you know, by the way, on YouTube, you, you're the certain threshold you need to meet
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before you can turn on monetization on YouTube channel.
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Yeah.
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So in a matter of subscribers, certain amount of watch time and stuff like that.
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And cancel move report hit it a while ago and I never turned them on.
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So I was like, I just kind of thankful that people watch it all.
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I don't really want to inundate them with ads.
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Yeah.
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You got a Patreon as well.
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It's like if they were to support they can do that.
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Exactly.
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But this season someone's like, you should test it.
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Just see like, you know, if you make anything, what you make, whatever.
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And I was like, okay, I'm happy to test it for the season.
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So I tend to on.
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And there's a little thing we can say auto do ads.
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So yeah, one at the top and I'll put some in the middle.
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And the episode I was uploading was 55 minutes.
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And I ticked, all right, do the auto ad.
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And then I just just had a curiosity.
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I went and checked it.
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How many ads do you think they inserted in a 55 minute video?
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I reckon probably at least four.
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Fourteen.
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Fourteen.
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Fourteen.
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They tried to add 14 ads into my video.
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I was like, no, no, no, absolutely not.
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I deleted all of them but one.
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I was like, you know what?
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You can have one just before we cut into the movie recreation.
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Yeah.
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Doing ad there.
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That seems like the most logical place.
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Fourteen.
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Fourteen ads.
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Okay, that makes that actually makes sense now.
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Because I've seen videos where there's an ad every like couple of minutes.
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Yeah.
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And I'm like, why, like what is this?
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Yeah.
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They've just been like, do the auto ad.
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I don't give a shit.
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Yeah.
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Crazy.
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Okay.
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Wow.
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Isn't that any who?
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All right, wish me a burn.
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Uh, let's get into today's advice.
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Uh, is it, is it an Oscar?
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I mean, Oscar.
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Sorry.
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We did an Oscar.
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I don't remember.
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I think it's anything 471 episodes.
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You'll get that again eventually.
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Okay.
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This as credit as being crossbusted was by gone fish kicking, but it was originally by Chosen One.
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101.
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What's an old video game that you wish they would remaster?
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They did mine.
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They did mine.
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I was always a turning-ahol kid.
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That was like my video game.
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And that's true.
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And they say like, credit goes and ridic goes something.
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They also remastered that.
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Did they?
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Yeah.
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For people, I'm sure I've talked about it in the podcast.
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Well, for some reason, as I was like a 13 year old, I did really like the game.
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The chronicles are ridic, escape from Butchabay.
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Despite the fact I don't really like the movie chronicles of ridic.
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Yeah.
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It was just a cool prison escape game, but they did remaster.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, I, I think there's one, and actually it's funny because, um, I think there's one, and it's
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a, I didn't put the link in here, but I had to look at the comments.
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And before I looked at the comments, I had a game in mind.
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Do you know what it is, Camber?
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Because I reckon everybody thinks of this one game, even though it's quite old.
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Hmm.
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I reckon no matter, like if you're, if you're a child of our age.
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Yeah.
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So you're like roughly 30s, maybe a little, maybe a little bit younger.
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Oh.
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See, my mind immediately went to like Mario Kart, but they, they do like,
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I just, they released the Mario Kart all the time.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's a cash grab there, Camber.
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And, and they did remaster Golden Eye, which I think is another quintessential game.
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Oh, yeah.
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Did you have a release?
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I've got to remember.
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I thought it did.
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Yeah, maybe it did.
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No, I think it's coming up.
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Oh, for some reason, I thought that there was two Bond games and they released.
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Oh, maybe it did.
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Some new Bond game on the same day, they also released the remaster of Golden Eye and then
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the other Bond game bombed.
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Everyone's like, yeah, you released on the same day that you remastered Golden Eye, which
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was like a classic 90s video game.
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Okay.
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So they, they did remake it, I think in 2010, but I got reviews because I think there's
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another, there's a new Bond game coming out.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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But it's, I don't think it's three.
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No, it's not.
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That's, that's a whole different separate game.
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So they, they don't want to go to quintessential like 90s video games.
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What am I missing?
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Okay.
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The game that I'm missing is called The Simpsons.
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Oh, hit and run.
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Hit and run.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There is someone doing it independently.
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They've got a YouTube channel where they are slowly showing you the process of how they
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are recreating that game.
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I think an Unreal Engine.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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It's like, it's, it's, actually, it's honestly, it's quite a fun YouTube channel just showing
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you the process of how they are updating textures and all that kind of stuff and making
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it run a little bit more modern.
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Yeah.
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That's true.
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That game is a classic.
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I love, there is a gigantic like, I think, like, I think, like, I think, like, I think
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modding community, maybe they're not classified as modding, people that just remaster games.
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Like that, that guy doing that is really amazing.
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But there are people that do it for like, they do it for the most bizarre games that you're
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like, oh, I didn't even think anybody else knew or liked this game and they're like,
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yeah, but I did.
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So I'm going to remaster and do all these texture updates.
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Yeah.
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I also enjoy, like, in a similar vein to that, there are people out there that just
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make, like, tech demo games in Unreal Engine.
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And occasionally I will watch these YouTube videos where they do that.
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Like, one guy was like, I've always wanted the Daredevil game.
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So like, I've mapped this, like, one entry level demo of a Daredevil game just for fun.
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Yeah.
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And like, here's how I imagine it would work.
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And this is my test case.
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Obviously, legally, you can never do that.
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But I always like seeing how people kind of like problem solve these things.
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Yeah.
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I think I have seen that Daredevil one actually, but it's pretty much just awesome.
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Or at least I've seen like a screen shot of it or something.
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Yeah.
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But I can like, those guys are like, yeah, I'm just doing this for fun.
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But they're like, I hope this goes far and wide this demo.
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And I get contacted by Marvel and they're like, hey, we freaking love it.
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We're going to hook you up with it.
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And we're like, we love when people unsolicited do this kind of stuff.
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We think that's awesome when we pay them a lot of money.
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And we don't famously litigiously sue them.
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I would say that Marvel was doing very well off Spider-Man and soon to be Wolverine video game.
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So if they have a fan made one that does well, they might be like, oh, that's money in the bank.
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Let's get that one going.
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Quick side.
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I feel like they've gone on tangents.
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Did you see who the voice of the new Wolverine is?
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Yeah, but I don't know who he is.
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That is.
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I don't know anybody.
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That is a that person is a friend of a friend of ours.
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That person used to work at the cinema with our friend Eden Porter.
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And they used to make like funny sketches together at the cinema.
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And then he went off to be an actor and he's done fairly well.
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I think he was in the spot at the TV show when he was in like the Arrowverse or whatever.
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Yeah, I have heard.
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He's his name Liam McIntyre.
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Yes.
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Yeah, interesting.
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Yeah.
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So when that popped up, I did message Eden.
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He's like, yeah, I know.
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That's crazy.
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Yeah, we're basically best friends with him.
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Even though I forgot his name, but it didn't really know who he was.
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Yeah.
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So any who, as you can see, oh, yeah, this is my problem though with the remastered video games.
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So they remastered a game just recently called Middle Gear Solid Snake Eater.
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Yeah.
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And it's the third Middle Gear Solid video game, which is sort of considered by the community the best.
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I sort of described it's great anyway.
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But I was like, oh, yeah, maybe I'll maybe I'll get this and I actually played racing because this is what they did.
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This is a smart ass.
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Konami.
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This is what they did.
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They released not that long ago.
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Maybe well, it's maybe like two years ago now, I guess.
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Like a re-release of Middle Gear Solid, I think one, two and three in a like a single package.
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And it wasn't updated necessarily.
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It was like, it was this somewhere that they use where it's like, it's not remastered, but it's like,
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we've allowed newer consoles.
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We have to run this in a slightly nicer way.
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Yeah.
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They'd be like, what did over?
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Yeah, yeah, kind of poured it over.
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It's a little bit of, yeah, a little bit of a finish on some elements, but not going through and doing all the changes and whatever.
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And so I got that and I played it all.
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And then they were like, you know what we should do is do a proper re-buck.
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Because things like that sold so well in the next couple of years, we'll sell this remastered game.
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And they've done a lot, but they've done a shot for shot remake of it.
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Because it's a Hideo Kajima game, which means that there's a lot of...
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Yeah, it's half movie.
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It's half movie, particularly this one.
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This one is like, if you listen to Hideo Kajima and how he was like,
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bought up on American movies and spy movies and stuff, it's like, this is like Cold War era spy movie.
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It's like, this is the game that he wanted to make from the start you can tell.
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And so, yeah, but it looks great.
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But it's got some like weird absurd stuff in it.
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There's a guy that like meows like a cat and then a bunch of his goons turn off.
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He's like, yeah, Michael, these guys rushing from the side.
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It's so stupid.
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But anyway, my problem I have with it is that
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I watched this video that was like, hey, here's all the things that they've changed.
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Look, now you can, when you shoot, the bullet has bullet drop a little bit.
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Like a really faint bullet drop.
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And also, if you're...
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You can aim like down the sights in front of your face and shoot.
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And when you're crouching, you can move from side to side.
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You couldn't do that last time.
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And now you can stand and crouch and crawl in three different modes.
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And before you could do in the crouching, I'm like, all this stuff is so minor
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that I am obviously not the target audience.
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I was like, I can appreciate a remaster of a good game.
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But like you kind of have to make it a lot better for me to want to spend the money,
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I think, to just be like, oh, yeah, there's like, you know, five new interesting
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features.
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And obviously the graphics have been updated and stuff.
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It's like, graphics don't really, I don't really care so much for that stuff.
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I was like, if it's enjoyable in the first place, it doesn't really need to be updated.
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Like, I think that there is a weird market.
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I, it must be huge, I guess, because so many games are remastered like this.
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But I was like, I want, if you're remastering a game and you're making it from being like,
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wow, this was so frustrating to play in the first instance.
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And we've made it really easy to play.
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I'd be like, yeah, sure, that's great.
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But when they're like, yeah, we just added like bullet drop.
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I don't care.
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This is not enough.
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Yeah, honestly, like that's pretty much what the Tony Hawk remaster's are.
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Yeah.
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Because the games are like arcade games.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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There's some functionality they brought over from later ones at one of the originals
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that you forget on in the originals, but pretty minor.
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But honestly, they're just like, it just looks cool now.
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Like it just looks cool.
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We have Unreal Engine now, so we can like actually in real time do lighting rendering.
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And you can see the poles on the soundtrack.
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Yeah.
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But that's all like that's all people really, I guess, wanted.
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Like, yeah, go all play them again.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's right.
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It makes me sad, but it's the same reason why I feel like certain cohort of people
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are sad about remakes for movies and sequels for movies and stuff.
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It's like, it's kind of lame just to have a redone story that you've heard a million times.
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Like, give us some new stuff.
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Give us a fresh touch.
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I guess the Tony Hawk remakes to me are like, even though I play them when I like them,
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it's like the live action Lion King.
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We're like, oh, yeah, it's impressive that it looks this good.
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But it is the same movie I've seen.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That's it.
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And you, let's get into it today.
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Finally, Nelson, we can get into today.
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I learned.
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I've been wanting to get into this for ages.
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So now it's time for today.
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I learned.
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But today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today,
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I learned.
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And I'll say sometimes that my, this today, I learned is cross-basted to us by
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gone emotionally, but as originally by Triggand Raven, 787.
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Today, I learned in 1518, dozens of people in Strasbourg, France, began dancing
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uncontrollably for days.
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Some literally died from exhaustion.
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To this day, nobody knows why it happened.
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I have a theory.
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Yeah.
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I need you to ignore some of the things that won't line up Nelson with time, lines, and
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such.
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But this is the danger of if you put the song Murder on the Dancefloor by Sophie Ellis
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Baxter.
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Sometimes people will dance themselves to death because it's such a bob.
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Yeah, it's pretty good.
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Yeah.
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I thought maybe Woodstock, you know, I think Woodstock was 1518.
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Yeah.
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It was around that time.
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Well, first, the second one was in the 60s, I think.
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It was, yeah, this was France's version of Woodstock.
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Not many people know this, but France had a Woodstock.
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People went crazy.
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I'd like to read this to you, Campbell, but I'm just going to drop a word.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Let me see how it sounds.
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Today, I learned in 1518, dozens of people in the Strasbourg, France began dancing for
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days.
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Some literally died from exhaustion.
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Do this day know we knows where it happened?
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I think we've gone from mystical to people just having a good time at some sort of festival
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or something by dropping the word uncontrollably.
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Yeah, because this could, you dropped the word uncontrollably.
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This is any modern music festival.
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Exactly.
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It's like people, people have an a great time.
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I think it's so funny that it seems so innocent a word to say uncontrollably, but it totally
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changes the contact.
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Yeah.
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And somebody's definitely added that in for flavor.
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Yeah.
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Just be like, they could be controlling.
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They just can't stop dancing.
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I can't stop dancing.
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It was mystical.
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It was mystical.
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Look, nature.
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God made them dance.
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I don't know what the 1518 equivalent of speed is.
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They were probably on something.
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Yeah, I think it was speed.
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It was just modern speed.
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Yeah, I thought that this was really funny.
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People, just normal kind of, I feel like if this was a really sunny day, like 40 degrees
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or something.
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People are outside dancing, just having fun.
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And people will not, you know, sometimes you can get caught up in the moment and you're
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like, all of a sudden, oh my God, I haven't had any water.
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I imagine in 1518, it was harder to get water.
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You're going to get.
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Just to get to the point of it.
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To be phrasing as well, it makes all the difference.
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I would say the last sentence should be, and in like, in today's age, we don't know
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why it happened.
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It's like to this day, as if back then, everyone's like, well, that was, we have no
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idea.
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I reckon they probably did know what happened when it happened.
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We have just not recorded it properly.
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Yeah.
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And it is now, I'm just curious to what happened.
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Also, to consider 1518 was that kind of time when someone's like, I've got a cold,
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everyone's like, well, you're dead.
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So it is, you can see someone's like, I'm exhausted.
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Therefore, I guess I'm dead.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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We don't know how to fix exhaustion.
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Yeah.
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Maybe try dancing more?
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I don't know.
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I think that was probably the reason.
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We tried high of Newton.
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That didn't work.
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Have you considered dancing for days on end?
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Yeah.
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I like it.
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It's just some snake oil sense.
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It was like, hey, I got the cure of everything here.
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Yeah.
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And then he's like selling the dancing shoes.
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So he's like, you put these slip these bad boys on and you dance for days and eventually
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you're making a cure.
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It's a...
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And if the cure, cural isn't death can be.
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I don't know what is.
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Yeah, that's true.
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It doesn't cure what ails you, I guess.
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Yeah.
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So the more, I guess, cynical reading of this is today, I learned in 1518, dozens of people
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in Strasbourg friends began dancing for days.
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Some literally died in this day and age.
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We're not sure what happened.
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Mm-hmm.
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Which is...
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That, as I said, is far less intriguing, isn't it?
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Yeah.
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That's not an upvoted person.
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No, no, no.
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Yeah, but...
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But yeah, pretty funny.
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All right.
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I mean, not funny that people died.
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No, that's pretty sad.
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You know what?
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If you are going to die.
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Do I dance?
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Especially in 1518.
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Well, I people are dying from dysentery, can't they?
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I think if you were to die from exhaustion, because you just danced for so long, that's
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like a way to go.
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Mm-hmm.
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If I had to choose between the two, I'd probably choose dancing.
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Yeah, would you rather shit yourself to dance?
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Or...
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Or die of...
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Do the worm to death.
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Yeah.
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I think I...
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I think I should do the worm to death.
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For some reason that seems way worse than if I was just on my feet and boogying.
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If I had to do the worm, I think I'd rather shit myself to death.
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All right.
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Well, let's just be fine.
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And get into shower thoughts.
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Shower thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts,
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thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts.
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This shower thought is by...
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I'm Keanu Reeves.
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Oh, wait.
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Okay.
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Before I do that, which is a great name.
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Let's just pause that for one second.
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But I'd like to get listener input, because...
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A shower thought still did.
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What, you're tapping away there on your keyboard.
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What's going on there, also?
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A shower thought still good, guys.
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All right.
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Here's the thing.
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When I get...
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I look for cross-posted stuff.
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Nobody's cross-posting me shower thoughts.
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That's interesting.
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I've actually gone into random thoughts.
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I don't think one of these is actual shower thoughts.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Everywhere.
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Let's just keep that between us.
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Don't tell anyone we're doing this.
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Don't tell anyone that none of these are shower thoughts.
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They're actually random thoughts.
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But...
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Because I think the shower thought subreddit is just gone to hell.
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And this one...
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So I don't know.
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The people like the shower thoughts.
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I used to think they're great.
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And now I don't know anyway.
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Where are they from?
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They were a credit show.
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If enough people are like,
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yeah, shower thoughts aren't that great.
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Yeah.
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We can pivot.
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I'll make the show shorter.
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Ooh.
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Guys, can we do a five minute show?
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Did you just run red on red it?
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We'll just do the first bit.
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Then we'll call it a day.
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That'll be it.
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That's a good show.
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Okay, can you play the intro again?
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Okay, hang on.
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Shower thoughts.
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Shower thoughts.
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Shower thoughts.
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Shower thoughts.
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Is there gonna be a delay between them?
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I was gonna say...
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There is a slight delay.
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So you're just off.
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And I think it's funnier if I don't fix that.
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Yeah, yeah, that's good.
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That's good.
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So now it says,
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shower random thoughts.
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Thoughts thoughts.
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Shower random thoughts.
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Thoughts thoughts.
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Yeah, yeah.
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As soon as that started again,
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I was like, oh, I don't think this is gonna happen.
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Anyway.
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All right.
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I'm Keanu Reeves said,
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you know some dude out there named Taylor Swift
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just trying to live his life.
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Jik and there's a lot of people
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that have this problem with.
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Yeah, I know of at least two of this similar circumstance.
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One I think is not a problem anymore
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and forgivable one is like, what are you doing?
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We both used to know a guy,
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good friend of ours, his name was Jack Dawson.
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Pretty regular name,
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but for a while there in the late 90s, early 2000s,
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that was the name of Leo's character from Titanic,
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which was like a bit of a,
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like he's the heartthrob kind of thing.
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So I know for a few years having the name Jack Dawson
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was like everyone's like, oh, that's the Titanic guy.
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He's like, yeah, yeah.
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But also he was born in the early 90s.
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His parents wouldn't have known, you know.
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However, my brother has a friend named James Bond.
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That's awesome.
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And he was definitely named James,
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knowing they have the last name bond.
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Way after that character was already very famous.
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That's so good.
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I'm fully, I'm fully supported in this.
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And it's funny because he's got a nickname.
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And I was like, oh, everyone must call him 007.
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Now they call him Bondy.
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What?
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They call it.
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I'm such an Australian.
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I know.
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And it just because like my brother met him
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in the military, you know,
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it's reckon like all the dudes in there
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are just not like pseudo files at all.
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So it probably just doesn't even,
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everybody knows who James Bond is.
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But I just don't think they went to like pop culture-y
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kind of nicknames.
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They just went straight to the classic Australian like Chuck,
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either Chuck something on their last name
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or short in the last name depending on the length.
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I think it's gotta be James Bond being like,
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hey, I don't really like all the James Bond stuff.
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I've had to deal with it literally by entire life.
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I hate could you call me Bondy.
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I hate being compared to the coolest guy
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that ever lived.
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Yeah.
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He had a license to kill.
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I don't.
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Okay.
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Oh, that's why he joined the, I mean,
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I get it.
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It's like it's a closure like you get.
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Yeah, that's good.
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How about all the,
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I've forgotten it.
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This is just now about people calling their kids
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like famous names.
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When Game of Thrones came out,
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Kaleesi became a really
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Fulfillian A, which I think is like,
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that's a hard one to be like,
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no, we independently came up with you.
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Especially because I think that car people
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really turned really hated that.
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That's a life lesson, isn't it?
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Wait until the season is done.
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The whole series is done before you name your child.
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It's like season one of Breaking Bad.
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You've just watched the pilot.
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You're like, oh, Walter's such a lovely man.
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Just trying his best.
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I've got a man that's some little Walter watch.
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Yeah.
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I mean, even up to episode one or something.
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Like, you know, what's right?
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It's a breaking bad.
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He's an asshole teacher.
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Just trying to do his best.
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Yeah.
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I've been sitting in a car for minutes.
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But he seems nice.
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Anyway, let's head to the hospital.
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Don't have this baby.
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Try to break the bad off.
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Yeah, that's good.
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What if you could retract it?
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Because you can change names at any time.
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What if these people that named Kaleesi,
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they could Kaleesi made the middle name like up to season
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for Kaleesi up to season four.
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And people be like, ah, good.
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Yeah, nice.
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I get it.
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It's another one this by Wrell.
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I find it cute when people use item emojis next to words.
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Like, I like tomatoes tomato emoji.
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Oh, I was riding my scooter, scooter emoji.
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I don't know, it feels cute.
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It's cool when they send it to you the word for the emoji too.
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What do you prefer if they replace the word with the emoji
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or they accompany the word with the emoji?
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A company it.
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I actually hate if they replace the word with the emoji.
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For some, I don't know why.
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Especially because not every phone has the same emoji pack.
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And sometimes it's like certain versions of the emoji
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are way more clear than other versions.
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So I've seen screenshots before.
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I'm like, what is the, oh, yeah, I guess that's the thing
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I was setting on my phone that looked different
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and it was much clearer.
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What I think is funniest for this is when the smiley faces
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look slightly different and give slightly different vibes.
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Of an emotion.
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That's I think where it can become in a really like
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be misinterpreted.
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Like the one I like to use a lot is the eye rolling emoji.
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I've just find used for that fairly frequently.
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But on some of them, it looks like more sinister.
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Like I'm being a dick.
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Like putting the eye roll emoji in.
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But really I'm just kind of like, oh, brother.
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So, you know, I feel like mine's more whimsical eye rolling.
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Dude, it's also an emoji that is like drooling.
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I'm just gonna say on some emoji packs,
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it looks way more sexual than other.
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Yeah.
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Some of them are being like, oh my god.
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I just like drooling everywhere.
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Like these, that dude's coming.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Whereas somebody's like, oh, that looks yummy to be.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Some of it is like a lot more, it is something like, oh, yum.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I think, like I'm pro emoji otherwise.
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I do think emojis allow you to give context.
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But like GIF sometimes.
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Oh my god, actually this brings up a great point.
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Okay, I only learned recently this.
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And you were there when I learned this.
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I, the problem with texting online or anywhere,
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checks or page, you lose context a lot.
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And for me, I find it particularly difficult.
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I know there would be a lot of people like me.
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Maybe you're the same as me too.
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But I like to think, like I'm a pretty sarcastic person.
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But I also kind of, I would say like,
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and maybe more of an Australian thing too,
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we deliver our sarcasm in a really dry way.
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So it's like, you kind of just have to infer that I'm being sarcastic
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because you know me as a person, right?
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I think sometimes that happens.
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And again, to other people, like if you gave me something really dry,
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so I castically, I feel like I'd just get it.
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Yeah.
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But this doesn't happen over text.
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And I think sometimes online I've been misconstrued.
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And I think people are getting angry at me for something.
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And like I remember one age ago in Doider.
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I'm not going to be able to explain it well.
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But basically it was like a guy trying to pick up a girl.
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And I wrote a comment being like,
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you guys don't get it because you don't have girlfriends.
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And people are like, this guy's,
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some people got it, but some people are like,
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oh my god, this guy is some like bottom feeding,
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Nick Breed, you know what?
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Anyway.
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But the other day,
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Stacey brought up with me,
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a time where I had messaged her after looking after megs.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And she was like, you were furious.
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You sent me this text.
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It was a long text.
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You sent me all the things that you're done like scratcher in the door,
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kept you in it.
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Like so annoyed.
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And this was years ago, years and years ago.
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Until this day, I just just shimmed Stacey and you
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that I was like being stuck at Stacey and being a jovial,
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like a her bloody megs,
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he did all this stuff to me.
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And then just the other day she like recited it to my parents
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or something and was telling me how I was so annoyed.
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I was like, oh no.
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Three years now you've thought that I was angry
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and hated looking after this cat.
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Like that wasn't the case at all.
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Like he was a menace, but like I was totally fine there.
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The text was not as angry as it sounded.
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Yeah.
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And it's really blown by my mind that this happened.
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And what I'm thinking now is I should have used more emojis and or gifts.
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To get to lighten it.
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Yeah, honestly, yeah, that probably would have helped.
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A full body of text for some reason always comes off as sincere.
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Yeah.
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Where when you break it up with emoji, like, oh, he's having fun with
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with perfect grammar, Campe.
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That's how you know.
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A full body text with perfect grammar.
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You're like, whoa, whoa.
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This is serious.
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They have sat at a desk and written this out.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think for a while people also like, oh, you should put slash S
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at the end of something.
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I'm like, that's so annoying.
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I think if you have to do that, your sarcasm isn't good enough.
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Your sarcasm should be obvious.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well, no, that's my problem.
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It's not a miscarcid.
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It's just giving like dry sarcasm.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't know half ill about this.
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That being said, don't underestimate people's ability to just misread
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something entirely, even if it's not in text.
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We got a comment just the other day on a YouTube video.
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For Cancer, Moever, Report, we did an episode about Stanley Kubrick,
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Napoleon movie that never got made.
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And at the beginning of the episode, you infer what you think of this.
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At the beginning of the episode, I say, Stanley Kubrick is known for like a lot of very famous productions
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from 2001 to space, obviously, to the shining to that time that he faked the moon landing.
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Yeah.
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And we got a comment that was like, I had to stop listening when he said he faked the moon landing.
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Stop spreading conspiracy theories.
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And I was like, well, I, I never even comprehended that someone
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would have picked up there.
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Was there emojis with the comment?
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Can't be.
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Maybe they were also being said, they could be, that could be dry sarcasm.
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It could be dry sarcasm.
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Either way, either way, either way, either way, I reckon maybe you're missing interpreting this.
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That's true.
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Hopefully that is the, that is the guy.
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And you're like, hey, just checking.
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Are you being...
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No, no, no.
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What I did is, it's my go to anytime this happens is I pin it to the, as the top comment on the beginning.
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Yeah, it's good.
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I've some comments, I mean, I like that's pretty funny.
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Yeah.
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I pin it to the top.
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See, now you're actually perpetuating people that leave comments like that so that they could be the pinned comment.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Like, whatever gets his engagement.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Um, that is probably, I think, a lot, it happens a lot online.
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Where people would get angry about something that happened to like, oh, both people in this and I.
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Yeah.
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Nobody knows.
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I understood.
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Yeah.
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Uh, anything, all right, can't be, let's get this putt napping.
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Oh my god, I'm being putt naps.
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Putt napping.
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Uh, this bad having where you never put, we take a topic of conversation or a segment from another thing and we do it ourselves.
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So it is my week this week and is it, oh, thank you.
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Yeah, I have to double check that as well.
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Okay, first of all, it was about to go at the time that this episode drops.
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It's, it's nearly my birthday.
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Yeah.
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You'd say close enough.
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It's not my birthday on the Monday.
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This comes out.
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But it's close enough.
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Mine's gonna be on your birthday.
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On my birthday.
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And your birthday.
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What did you get a plan for it, came back?
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Well, I'm excited to not have to do the show notes.
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Let me tell you.
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I, as a birthday treat for myself.
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Okay.
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I'm treating myself to a skip.
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Um, I think you should be obligated on your birthday.
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No way.
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No way.
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No, I was gonna say I look forward to seeing what happens next week and it gets to your birthday.
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Yeah.
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Well, I, I've got one ready from a big, big, big box.
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Sorry.
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Um, but even though, look, I'm gonna skip this week, but also the only reason I felt confident
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doing this is we actually do have quite a few emails coming through at this point.
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So I thought we should maybe spend that time to answer some emails instead.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I'm gonna skip and instead, should we go straight to the end?
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Yeah, me.
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Okay.
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You got the questions.
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We have the answers.
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So ask us, ask us anything at all.
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This is the Ask Me Anything.
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We listen to this episode of the show just like you listen up and write in and ask us
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anything you want.
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Just like Hazza has done.
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They say, uh, I, I, by the way, this is some ongoing correspondence about Hazza's child
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and the naming thereof, which has been over many months now, I think.
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Uh, Hazza has said, I've asked Chris how he feels about naming the baby reddit on reddit
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diet or even Kimberley, our plan name, I like and subscribe, hi, unfortunately, one or
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the other, one or the other, minimum, I would say.
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Unfortunately, he's not being a team player and says, no, it has something to do with Nelson
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calling him a piece of trash about you.
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I was just a guy.
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Hey, you know what?
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You know what?
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Okay.
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All I'm going to say is that, um, if Chris doesn't want to be a misadjunk, then he'll name
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his child.
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I don't know where they're at.
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Yeah.
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I was saying, I was saying, the ball is in his court.
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That's what I think.
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I would say we, uh, we change opinions, obviously.
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Yeah.
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And Chris can win us over, but this is not helping.
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Yeah.
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Come on, Chris.
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So all we look, maybe a baby, maybe a minute.
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Look, if you're not getting married, you're right.
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I don't write it or like it, subscribe.
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Um, minimum, just a written apology from Chris.
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To us is all all we were guys.
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What is he about, that I got him.
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And then he ever reacted to that.
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I was big suck guys.
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Maybe I needed more emojis in me.
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Uh, I do try.
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At least my daughter will be able to listen to that episode and agree with Nelson, uh,
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which he finds out why she didn't get a cool name.
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Yeah.
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As far as inheritance goes, I believe the ruling asks the husband's, uh, baby was that
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fuckhead podcast listeners status was only passed down after death.
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However, seeing as I have twice earned the fuckhead podcast listeners status, M.I.R. would
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be.
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I don't want to make a fool of myself to the lawyers when I make my will.
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Oh, that would be embarrassing.
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I'd also like to point out that years ago, you guys asked that every listener leave you
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each a small sum of money when they die.
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I don't remember doing that, but it sounds a lot like us.
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Yeah.
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Just a reminder for anyone else currently in the process of making or revising their
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wills.
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Love you guys.
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How does that?
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Do you know what's so annoying is that I would say most of our listeners are like our
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age-ish or young.
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Yeah.
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We got a long time before we cash in on those and we have to outlive some of the younger
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ones.
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But think of this, Nelson, the last three to four years of our lives could be pretty
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sweet.
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Could be pretty sweet.
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Here's what I'm thinking.
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We start pivoting and start appealing to an older demographic.
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Oh, that's good.
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I think we start hating on our generation more.
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Usually that's the way to...
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Yeah, and you stole debate.
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I'd like to check this out, Nelson.
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Remember the 80s?
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Remember the 70s.
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Remember when kids went out on their bikes and they didn't come home to the street lights
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were on?
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Yeah.
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That was a great time.
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Remember, drinking from the garden hose?
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Now we're all soft and...
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Oh, look at it.
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Screens all the time.
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Even though I look at screens all the time too.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Even though I'm obsessed with my iPad, kids should get off their phones.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Well, let's go spread this around.
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I think we've done enough.
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I would actually echo not to put your family on Blast, Nelson.
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I would echo as a sentiment, something that your dad said last time we had dinner with
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them at Costco.
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Oh, that's good.
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Yeah.
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Where he said, they don't make movies anymore.
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And then states to you, her job is marketing these.
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Right off three or four.
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And he goes, yeah, but I don't want to see them.
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Yeah.
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It's like, oh, yeah, that's two different things.
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Well, you've said it.
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My dad is such an idiot sometimes when it comes to these opinions.
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And he always thinks he's just right.
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And honestly, this has been an age thing where he has like...
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Not realized that he's become that old man with these opinions.
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And it's just crept up on him.
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He does have, which, you know what, like to a degree, I share his sentiment on something.
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He's really anti-American television and movies.
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And he's against it because he probably can't articulate it in the right way.
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But I would say it is, and correct me if you think I'm wrong, Kenba.
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It's the cookie cutter save the cat-esque storylines that seem to repeat themselves
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in a lot of modern day TV and movies and whatever.
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There is like, I feel like America finds a formula and capitalizes on that by doing it a lot.
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And I can appreciate that that's where it's like, maybe, you know,
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British television, it's more like they kind of do what they feel is right for the story.
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As a great example of what you're talking about,
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there is the British sitcom that I know we've talked about a few times,
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Peep Show, very unique format in this.
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You see it through their point of view and the Peep Show.
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And you hear there in a monologue, you hear their thoughts.
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But you're unique for sitcom.
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Yeah, that got remade in America.
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And they removed the point of view in the voiceover in which it's just to 20 something,
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sharing anything, which is just any sitcom.
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Yeah, taking away the really interesting, unique aspect of that show.
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See, I feel like you can see the, you know, like producer who's like,
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we need to just market this to America.
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Yeah.
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And so therefore we'll sort of drill it down into this cookie cutter that same thing
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that people are used to that we know sells.
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Yeah.
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Which is just like such a thing.
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So, so I, yeah, my point is I do understand, I think,
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by dad not necessarily lacking in American stuff,
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because there is a lot of the same.
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But I love the sentiment they don't make blockbusters anymore.
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Yeah.
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They say, well, they do.
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They adventures are very popular still.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, there is, but like, do you think that,
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because I don't know this.
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And I feel like it was hard because, obviously,
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the pandemic really threw a wrench into it,
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where like, let's say, 1999, it's hard to compete against.
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Well, there has been a like, what's that?
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It's for us because we're nostalgic for it.
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Yeah.
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Like, I'd like to know how many blockbuster films,
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you know, I don't even really know how to categorize a blockbuster.
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Actually, you should probably the problem.
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Look, I think what your dad was trying to say is like,
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original based on no existing intellectual property block,
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like the Matrix.
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It is an example of that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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There was no Matrix before that became a big blockbuster,
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whereas like now it is remakes and reboots and all this guy.
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I think it's the point he was trying to articulate more,
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like where are the big original blockbusters?
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But really, the more correct version of it is,
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there's no middle movies anymore.
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They're either like 200 million dollar blockbusters
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or they're like really small independent, like small,
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that just blow up.
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They're like $30 million romcom and all that kind of stuff
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that were really big.
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That's what you don't see anymore.
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Because that has transferred to like streaming sources.
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It's that middle ground where it's like,
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you get to see a bot blockbusters now at the movies.
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You don't get to see a $30 million thriller.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I feel like that was the,
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it felt like there's a time where you went to the cinemas
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and you were like, I'm here to see the big blockbuster
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and they were like, sorry, sold out.
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You're like, well, I'll see that other movie.
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Now it's like, well, I guess we're not going to the CD.
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Yeah, he gets.
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We came to that one movie and that's it.
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Yeah.
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Anywho.
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Oh, wait, there's this other email also from Heather.
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I just thought that I'd add it on here.
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Oh, yes.
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Gentlemen, I can confirm that any time I've been
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to a wedding with a plated meal,
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I guess selected their entree choice when they RSVP wild.
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That is wild.
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Anyway, even in the less formal setting like a work event,
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the meals would be first come first served as opposed to assigned every other.
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Oh, so like people have to like get up and get their meal.
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So is that implying that they would have a kitchen?
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That's like just doing a bunch of dishes and you walk past and you grab whatever you want,
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but it's not necessarily drop.
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Yeah.
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By the way, I know we talked about this is to do with alternated drop catering,
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which we fan out is only a thing in Australia,
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where they just go one, two, one, two, one, two with the different dishes.
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That being said, there is an RSVP if you have a dietary or something like that.
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They will point you at specifically to make sure you get something particular,
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but you see if you liked it, it's just like I need a vegetarian meal,
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vegetarian meal, and they're like, all right, we're going to create something.
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Here is that version of it.
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Yeah.
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But this is if you've just been like, yeah, whatever, just, yeah, yeah,
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I don't have any dietary.
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This is yet this happens.
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I'm curious if this is a pricing thing.
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Plated meals at weddings start at $50 per person with around $75 to $125 being more
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average in the suburbs and even more rural areas of Cleveland.
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Cleveland.
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Cleveland.
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That really proper Cleveland.
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That's our version of whenever Americans say Brisbane or Melbourne.
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Yeah.
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Cleveland.
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I mean, we've got lands.
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Cleveland.
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Yeah.
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Queensland.
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Queensland.
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Again, for that much money and normally a small serving session, not that good of food,
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I would hope people at least get what they want.
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Yeah.
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That's true.
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Do you know what's so funny?
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It's like, it's so common here.
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I'm in and maybe it's because I'm not a fuzzy person, not if I see either,
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but I've never been like, so annoyed.
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I didn't get the other thing.
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I would also say this is, I feel like, by the way, we do this because it's easier
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for the caterers as well.
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Like to do the alternate drop is just easier for them to organize and not have to
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whatever.
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And I feel like Australia is pretty pro like if we could make someone's job easier.
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We generally, yeah, I reckon it's not that much harder to before the day have
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every untree that you know you need to do it.
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So because I'm still imagining it's only like between one or two or like two or three.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Untrace and they just make them all ahead of time.
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They know exactly how many of each one they need and then they just go around
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and deliver it to the tables, which you've already assigned anyway.
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Yeah.
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I reckon that would be that much harder.
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I would also say, look, maybe this is just completely my experience and not the norm.
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We would need someone from a catering company to tell me.
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But I've been to several weddings, lightly, my own included,
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where the alternating drop is not really a thing.
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You just do big share plates in the middle of the table.
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Well, our untree was a alternate drop, but our main was a shared plate down the
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table.
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And I feel like this shared table family style grab the bits you want is becoming
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more and more common here at weddings.
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It's just like here's a bunch of food in the middle of the table.
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You just grab what you want.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, we liked that idea.
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Although I think I went to a wedding like that and I felt so I didn't eat
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enough because I felt awkward going back for say, I eat a lot.
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I think I eat a lot more than my size.
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Yeah.
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Look, yeah.
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You've got the Italianness of eating so much food, but like you're so skinny.
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And like I don't know how your body is doing this.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you're an athlete.
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I'm an athlete.
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If I just let it go, I'd be if you weren't doing anything yet.
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Anyway, she said, I think you guys should petition for a change.
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catering is expensive and sometimes has some disgusting options.
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Let me guys have that.
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Don't book the ones that we booked our wedding venue based off food.
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Yeah.
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We booked a place that was well known for doing food more than it's well known for
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doing weddings.
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Yeah.
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Like cool.
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The food bit is done.
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Now can we chuck a wedding out of the back?
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They're like, yeah, go nuts.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um.
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All right.
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Thanks for adding in heads up.
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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If you would like to add in to us, you can do so reddit podcast, ARIAD podcast.
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All right.
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What's I'm gonna get to you?
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I T podcast.
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Yeah.
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A Gmail.com.
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You can also reach us at a separate.
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And it is good.
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I still go to say Facebook.
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Yeah.
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Like that.
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That's just muscle memory for you.
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Would you say people should hit up our subreddit.
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Anogis court to let us know if they still like shower thoughts.
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Yeah.
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Or if you're okay with random thoughts.
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Well, what other set bread it could I replace it with?
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I always feel dirty when I have to put in like a subreddit that haven't told the
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list as I'm gonna change it to you know.
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That's question one.
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And question two is is it pronounced cleave land?
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That's more of a statement.
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He's a small thing.
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My last name is Allen him.
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But really it's Allen him.
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But I've always said Allen him.
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Our whole family does always.
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But it's like an English word.
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Inum is like a place.
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Bucking him.
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Or something.
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I've lost after I've ever said Bucking him.
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I was like there's no way out of the world.
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There's so many places like that.
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Anyway, so I think it's funny that like my family
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pronounces our last name incorrectly and have been doing for our lives.
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It's one of those things.
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You two are smaller than I remember someone once asked Jake Gyllenhaugh.
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They're like is like is Gyllenhaugh the correct pronunciation?
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He's like no, but like.
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Yeah, but at this point like it's like Nordic or something.
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So it's probably like Gyllenhaugh or something like Gyllenhaugh.
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And where he's just like no, but like what do you do?
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You just want it.
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All right.
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Anyway, thanks for listening and we will read it.