10/7/25: Massive AI Bubble, China Runs Circles Around US, Bari Weiss CBS Takeover, Venezuela War

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spk_0 Crystal? Did we do a lot of interesting topics this morning? So the financial times is writing that

spk_0 the US is now just one big bet on AI. So how is that going to go for us? We will evaluate where we're

spk_0 at with all of that. Barry Weiss has officially been installed over at CBS as Editor-in-Chief. We'll

spk_0 take a look at what she is saying and what some of the journalists at CBS are feeling about that.

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spk_0 some of his ordeal and what he went through. So let's go ahead and start with AI. Let's go and

spk_0 put this up here on the screen. I thought this was a fantastic piece. Came out in the financial

spk_0 times. Rochir Sharma, somebody I really respect. And what he wrote about here is quote,

spk_0 America is now one big bet on AI. It is seen as the magic fix for every threat to the US economy.

spk_0 And I'm going to read what I think are the most troubling paragraphs. Quote, lately, optimism has

spk_0 become a self-fulfilling prophecy. The hundreds of billions of dollars investing in AI now account for

spk_0 an astonishing 40% of US GDP growth this year. Some analysts believe that estimate does not even

spk_0 fully capture AI spend. Real share could be higher. AI companies have accounted for 80% of gains

spk_0 in US stock so far in 2025. That is helping to fund and drive US growth as the AI-driven stock market

spk_0 draws in money from all over the world and feeds a boom in consumer spending by the rich.

spk_0 Since the wealthiest 10% of the population owns 85% of stocks, they enjoy the largest wealth

spk_0 effect when they go up. Little wonder then, latest data shows American consumer economy

spk_0 rest largely on spending by the wealthy. The top 10% of earners account for half of consumer spending.

spk_0 The highest share on record since that data began. Without all the excitement around AI,

spk_0 the US economy would be stalling out given the multiple threats. I thought that that was such an

spk_0 important, just like succinct way of putting it together. He says America has become one big bet on AI.

spk_0 Outside of the AI play, even European stock markets have been outperforming the US this decade.

spk_0 And now that gap is starting to spread so far in 2025, every major sector for utilities,

spk_0 industrials, healthcare and banks has fared better in the rest of the world than in the US.

spk_0 So Silicon Valley, Parliants is like in the world of bits versus the world of atoms,

spk_0 as in like something in cyberspace, some of the versus the real world. AI is honestly a bit of both,

spk_0 right? Because you have to make chips, you have to read data centers, but fundamentally the profit

spk_0 and everything else is a power law of exponential growth for stocks of a lot of the people who are

spk_0 involved. We all know it is not in any way distributed across the economy. And I thought that that

spk_0 summed it up in a way that should honestly be terrifying because something a friend of mine

spk_0 recently said to me was if Trump did not have this AI boom, the tariff story would be a totally

spk_0 different conversation. I mean, it's still bubbling underneath, right? We talked about the

spk_0 farmer yesterday, soybeans. If you work in the quote, normal economy and all of that, of course,

spk_0 you're going to feel it. I was just taking a look yesterday at the equal weight S&P 500 versus

spk_0 the weighted S&P 500. It's unweighted. It's crazy. If you just take like the equal weight versus,

spk_0 you know, the Nvidia heavy S&P and all these others, the gap in growth is unbelievable.

spk_0 And I think what it underscores is the fundamental danger of where we are in a variety of ways

spk_0 from economic policy because it's emboldening actually Trump on tariffs because he thinks this

spk_0 is tariffs. He doesn't understand. It's all like data center growth, AI growth, Google and

spk_0 everybody kind of spending to the bottom. But the second is, and look, I know, you know,

spk_0 Bubble Talk is always easy and nobody knows when to call it. But at the very least, if even if it's

spk_0 not a bubble or any of that, this is a huge risk. Like any portfolio, if the US GDP is a portfolio,

spk_0 to say that 40% of your growth comes from a single sector, from not even just technology,

spk_0 from a single sector of that sector, you should be very afraid. And when 80% of the gains,

spk_0 which all of us rely on, it'll say if you're in retirement, you're 401K, that number's got to

spk_0 go up. And it's only going up from one place, which means it can go down from one place to a

spk_0 single. You know, we talked about deepseek style yesterday. Yeah.

spk_0 .com, anything like that 2007. I mean, we all remember, right? It can go south very quickly. And

spk_0 then it can go south for a long time. And I can guarantee you, while the gains may only go to the

spk_0 top 10%, that the losses will go to 100%. That's the way that works. That's the way that works.

spk_0 Well, and it feels like we're sort of like damned if it works out well and damned if it doesn't

spk_0 work out. So obviously, if it ends up just to be like sort of worthless AI slop and the, you know,

spk_0 all the grand vision of what AI could be, doesn't come to fruition, then you're going to have this

spk_0 massive crash. Our economy, like the perception of our economy is so tied up with these dramatic

spk_0 stock market gains, you know, divorced from the reality of the real economy that impacts most

spk_0 people day to day, that that collapse would be absolutely devastating. And like you said, would

spk_0 have massive effects for everybody, whether you're heavily invested in the stock market or not.

spk_0 If the promise of AI does come to fruition, well, then you've got mass job loss and a need to

spk_0 completely rewrite the social contract. So that seems like, you know, do you guys feel like the

spk_0 country is in a place where we could all get together and have a unifying discussion about what a new

spk_0 social contract might look like? Because I shouldn't feel like we're living in that country. So

spk_0 that's why the landscape is so incredibly terrifying. And, you know, I just, I feel like there is

spk_0 such, this has been so invisibleized. It's something that's bubbling below below the surface.

spk_0 But there are so little attention being paid by the media to this incredibly massive,

spk_0 looming potential problem. And our economy, when they say that it's just one big bet on AI,

spk_0 like policy makers are just sort of like using AI as a bucket catch all for any sort of problem

spk_0 that they see in the economy. So if they're worried about the debt and the debts,

spk_0 oh, you know, once we get AI, like that's going to reduce costs, we're going to be able to figure it

spk_0 out. Or if they're worried about sticky inflation. So, well, AI is going to increase productivity,

spk_0 so we don't have to worry about that. Every problem that we're falling behind in terms of like

spk_0 research and development, we're not what we used to be in terms of being the technological juggler

spk_0 nut. Oh, AI, I'll fix that as well. Like it's this incredible wish casting placed on this technology,

spk_0 which is unproven at this point at best, and which has not demonstrated, you know, the basic

spk_0 ability even to be profitable at any of these companies. What also scares me is if I take a look at

spk_0 that piece and I say that every sector from utility to industrial to healthcare to banks is

spk_0 fearing in the rest of the world in the US. What happens if we get into a serious war? Look at Russia.

spk_0 You think they have AI in Russia? Oh, yeah. You know what they have? Defense industrial base,

spk_0 a shitload of oil. That's what matters. That's the actual thing that matters. That's how you have

spk_0 GDP growth, even when the entire world is going to cut you off. I mean, yes, China has an AI

spk_0 sector. They still have an unbelievable industrial sector, so many different, you know, potentials

spk_0 that are coming out in the real world. That's actually manufacturing building products on top

spk_0 of financialization, which if you read about how they conceive of the economy, they think that

spk_0 compounding stock growth is bad for the elite and divorces you from the real world. This is a

spk_0 direct line from Xi Jinping. He said, hey, stocks, they don't need to grow that much. We're not

spk_0 into that. We're into the world of the real. That's what we focus on. And that's how we got here.

spk_0 This is very, very scary stuff. Also, we talked a few days ago. That was with Ryan, Derek Thompson

spk_0 shout out, did a fantastic interview. And what he said, actually, is that because the only growth

spk_0 right now in the US economy is coming from AI, it means that all private investment is flowing

spk_0 in that direction, which is directly then at the exit. It's zero sum game, right? There's only

spk_0 a certain amount of money. Well, that amount of money is only going to go where to the AI, where

spk_0 the most compounding affects. So that means that let's say your private equity giant or something

spk_0 on VC, anything, what you're going to invest in is where you're going to get the most return on

spk_0 your capital. Of course, that's your job. Well, that also means though that some guy who's running

spk_0 a construction firm, let's say he's built it to a $100 million company. He wants to take it to a

spk_0 $2 billion company. Nobody's investing in that because the margins are not going to be the same

spk_0 as some data centers stuff. Yeah. I was reading this morning. Let's go ahead and put a A3

spk_0 please up on the screen. This is OpenAI AMD deal. So I was reading about this. All right. So what

spk_0 happens is is OpenAI and AMD have now, quote, announced a massive computing deal, new phase of the AI

spk_0 boom. The five year agreement will challenge Nvidia's market dominance and gives OpenAI 10% of AMD

spk_0 if it hits milestones for chip deployment. So the way that this is structured though is so crazy.

spk_0 Basically, what happened is AMD was like, hey, OpenAI was like, we want X amount of chips. AMD

spk_0 goes cool. Give us $78 billion and they say, well, how would you like to pay? I'm reading this from

spk_0 Matt Levine. He kind of writes up a script. Well, we were thinking we would announce the deal

spk_0 and that will just add $78 billion to the value of your company. That should cover it.

spk_0 My God. And AMD is like, oh, you know, they go, you still have to pay and they go, why?

spk_0 And they go, okay, why don't we pay you cash for the value of the chips and then you have to give

spk_0 us that back in stock. And then when we announce the deal, the stock will go up and we'll get our 78

spk_0 billion back. AMD goes, yeah, sure. Let's do that. And so basically what happened is they gave

spk_0 them stock worth $35 billion. They took some cash. But then the value of the stock increased so much.

spk_0 It basically covered the cost of the cash that was put in. So it's a complete circular game.

spk_0 And they just did this with Nvidia. I watched the same thing happen where Nvidia is like, where is

spk_0 150 billion? And then the value of the stock goes more than 150 billion. Where is the reality?

spk_0 Where's the cat? Does this have anything to do with cash flow? No, it's just literally all

spk_0 expectations. And that's what's really scary about it. So put A2 up on the screen just to underscore

spk_0 what you were talking about. There's a new Senate Democratic report. They said AI could erase

spk_0 some quote 100 million US jobs, 89% of fast food, 64% of accounting, 47% of trucking all over

spk_0 the next 10 years. Keep in mind, trucking in particular is what worries me because that's like one of

spk_0 the best ways for people who don't have anything more than a high school diploma to actually make

spk_0 some six-figure income. And it's one of those where, look, I'm not a Luddite. I'm not saying that

spk_0 all automation or anything is bad. But you obviously need to think about the disruptive effect of your

spk_0 economy. The promise is always, oh, well, that'll create so much wealth that it'll figure out

spk_0 something else. Oh, we used to have people before the alarm clock, people would come and

spk_0 throw something in your window. You guys think of joking. These are the actual things the

spk_0 libertarian would say. I'm not wrong in a sense. But I'm like, yeah, I don't know. It seems a

spk_0 little different. It just seems a little bit different. And they're like, oh, we used to have

spk_0 horse keepers when we all went around in ponies. But then the car opened up America. I'm like,

spk_0 just doesn't seem the same. That's just me. That's me. You can decide whether you think it is

spk_0 one to one. Just to hold on that. Because this is an argument that people genuinely make. And it's

spk_0 a reasonable one. You look at the past and you're like, oh, there were all these concerns about the

spk_0 industrial revolution and all these concerns about the car, the automobile, and all this technological

spk_0 displacement in the past. And it ended up that there was a period of transition and then there were

spk_0 new jobs that were opened up and it was all okay. So it's going to we're going to project from

spk_0 the past to the future and say it's all going to be okay. One of the things that is different

spk_0 is like if we just use the example of the automobile, well, the automobile was replacing horses.

spk_0 AI is meant to replace humans. That's what's different. Like this is not a technology to

spk_0 supplement human labor, bind large. This, if you listen to what the creators themselves say,

spk_0 this is a tech that is meant to replace you. Just go out and look at, I mean, just as one like, you

spk_0 know, example here, apocryphal example potentially, this AI actress who, you know, they design this

spk_0 like teen girl AI actress that apparently has agents lining up to, you know, to work with her in

spk_0 major studios or interested or whatever. Like for capitalists, if you don't have someone who's

spk_0 going to, you know, complain and has to go to the bathroom and is going to get sick and

spk_0 going to have kids and have to deal with their kids and going to unionize or whatever. Like, not

spk_0 having to deal with that, they're like, yes, great. Like that is their goal and that's what makes

spk_0 the potential job displacement here. I think so much different than what we've seen in the past

spk_0 and why you should take very seriously these sorts of numbers about the number of jobs that AI

spk_0 could displace. And again, so, you know, that's if things go quote unquote well and AI lives up to

spk_0 its promise. If it doesn't live up to its promise, then we have this gigantic bubble and all of these

spk_0 billions, probably trillions of dollars that have been speculated on AI that is going to, you

spk_0 know, lead to some sort of a collapse. So it's such an incredibly perilous situation.

spk_0 Right. And that's before we even get to like, you know, the immediate resource taxation of AI

spk_0 development, there's this article in the Wall Street Journal about Elon Musk's development outside

spk_0 of Memphis, which is a three up on the screen here. And, you know, this of course, they locate this

spk_0 gigantic data center. I think this is the one they calls like the colossus, yeah, the colossus

spk_0 two data center. Of course, it's located very close to these poor black communities in Memphis.

spk_0 The residents there have complained about the noise they've complained about. They feel that

spk_0 there are toxins that in the air since the thing started to go up. And you have reports across

spk_0 the country. This is actually something I'm worried about of wells going dry because the AI

spk_0 centers use so much water. Of course, we've been really trying to focus here on the way that

spk_0 electricity prices are already going up in our home state of Virginia. 40% of energy generation

spk_0 already going to AI data centers in North Carolina. They're passing, they pass legislation to pass

spk_0 some of the costs from AI data center electricity onto consumers so that you are bearing the cost for

spk_0 this even though you may not want it whatsoever. So, you know, the resource strain here entailed in

spk_0 these things is just like you can't even wrap your head around it. The amount of electricity that

spk_0 these things require is equivalent to like large cities. It's absolutely insane. Let me just

spk_0 underscore that. Labor crews hired by Musk's XAI were excavating power equipment on site,

spk_0 preparing to build a new plant capable of generating over a gigawatt of electricity which was

spk_0 enough to power 800,000 homes. But that just shows you that you're going to need enough power to

spk_0 for 800,000 in the city of Memphis. And that's how much that they're already planning before they

spk_0 even have to draw from the grid. I actually think that type types of investment like this need to be

spk_0 a municipal demand. So, this is where I've gotten a lot of pushback from a lot of these AI people

spk_0 who are like you shouldn't be advocating for censorship on the grid. You should be advocating

spk_0 for more power. I'm like where have you been, bro? I'm the biggest nuclear guy that there is shut,

spk_0 you know, shut up. But if that's the case, then you people, if you're going to make all this money,

spk_0 then you need to invest massively in it should be a municipal demand. If you come in,

spk_0 pow, what's your power projection? You're building a power plant that is going to at the very least

spk_0 take care of some 75 to 80% of that. And so there's going to be some sort of tax levied to make sure

spk_0 that all of this extra electricity that you're demanding is going into, let's say, nuclear energy

spk_0 project, whatever, no more oil and gas. I don't care where it comes from. It just needs to make sure

spk_0 that it's not being offset on the consumer because the alternative is that right now they're, you know,

spk_0 pretending to invest in some of this power generation. But as we all know guys, power projects take years

spk_0 to come online. It takes some six, seven years to make a new nuclear reactor site. That's even if

spk_0 you get the permits, which none of them have ever materialized more recently. So in the interim,

spk_0 what's going to happen? I have read that in some municipalities, there is a increased data center

spk_0 specific 267% electricity bill to people to consumers 267%. If you're on a fixed income or if you

spk_0 are a suburban household, that is devastating to your monthly nut. I mean, just think about that.

spk_0 It's like gas price, for example. If there was a 267% increase there, you have to pay it. I mean,

spk_0 you know, you can only cut so much whenever it comes to, you know, turning the lights off or any of

spk_0 that. That's not going to do very much when you have such a massive increase. That is what worries me

spk_0 the most. And actually, the politically things are going in the opposite direction where in fact,

spk_0 the state legislators are all getting paid off by Amazon and Google and all these other people

spk_0 and video and they're like, oh, it's going to create, you know, 10,000 new jobs. I'm like, yeah,

spk_0 construction jobs in the interim. Great. I don't bemoan that. I think it's fine. But how is that

spk_0 going to roll into the rest of the economy? What are those types of jobs? Are they actually going to be

spk_0 distributed because it seems to me that the absolute vast majority of the profit keeps rolling up to

spk_0 the oracles to the Larry Ellison, to the Elon Musk, to Amazon and to all these other folks. And we

spk_0 don't see how any of this is actually materializing yet in the real world. Let's put a four up on the

spk_0 screen. If you want to know where money sees opportunity, what was I talking about earlier? Black rock

spk_0 is on the verge of buying, quote, aligned data centers, a massive data center construction company,

spk_0 a deal valued at some 40 billion dollars. That is the value prop that they see in just data center

spk_0 construction. And if black rock owns it, that means the money is not going to you. It's going to

spk_0 private investors. Let's go to the next part here. And this is about the Minnesota Public Utilities

spk_0 Commission that has voted to let BlackRock buy a company that actually runs Minnesota power.

spk_0 More perfect union did a segment on it. Let's take a listen. BlackRock bought global infrastructure

spk_0 partners, which is a big investment fund that itself buys up things like water and waste systems,

spk_0 transportation companies, and even large shares of entire airports. If you've flown in or out of

spk_0 London, congratulations. You're probably a customer of GIP. So BlackRock owns global infrastructure

spk_0 partners, which is trying to buy elite, which owns Minnesota power, which owns infrastructure like

spk_0 power plants, dams, and the land they're on. Usually when private equity and asset managers buy

spk_0 stuff, they just do it behind closed doors. But because people would literally die without power,

spk_0 it's considered a critical service. And therefore, a regulated monopoly under Minnesota law. BlackRock

spk_0 doesn't necessarily have the same amount of reporting responsibilities as a publicly traded

spk_0 corporation. We've had a lack of transparency already regarding our rates and the quality of

spk_0 services in our community and superior. That ability to access that data would be decreased by

spk_0 the purchase, which would be a huge problem. The community has made it clear that they oppose the

spk_0 deal and a judge has already recommended against it. But it doesn't end there. The final approval

spk_0 is going to come from the Public Utility Commission, a board made up of just five people appointed

spk_0 by the governor. This could have huge implications for anyone who uses basic utilities like electricity

spk_0 or water, i.e. the things that keep us from freezing to death in the woods. Because if they realize

spk_0 it's profitable, nothing will stop them. And this kind of thing has happened before in the

spk_0 Upper Peninsula of Michigan, with a power company called UPCO. This is a list of gene shaffer,

spk_0 the director of climate and energy at the Private Equity Stakeholder Project. If we look at Northern

spk_0 Michigan, there's a utility called the Upper Peninsula Power Company or UPCO. This was acquired

spk_0 by Private Equity firm in 2014. UPCO customers have seen a spike in their rates many say they can't

spk_0 afford. After the Private Equity firm took it over, shortly thereafter, they raised the bills.

spk_0 Couple of years later, bills went up again. Then that Private Equity firm sold it to a different

spk_0 Private Equity firm. Once the new Private Equity owners were in control, they raised bills again.

spk_0 Since 2014, UPCO, being owned by Private Equity, has seen four bill hikes.

spk_0 And where do you think that that's going? The two's benefit. You can see exactly how it's all

spk_0 happening. And I mean, the fakery of it, as I described in that OpenAI AMD deal, it just seems

spk_0 very key. And I just think we all have to just grapple with again, for what? To what benefit?

spk_0 I hear all the time about productivity gains in the white collar workplace. Great. I'm against meetings,

spk_0 I'm against bulletins and all this list. Nobody more than me. I don't know how the slackers out there

spk_0 are all doing it. And I don't mean that you are a slacker, I'm saying physically all this. People

spk_0 are just channels for people who can bug you at any hour of the day.

spk_0 All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half truth is a whole lie.

spk_0 For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County,

spk_0 Kentucky, went unsolved. Until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward

spk_0 with a story. I'm telling you we know Quincy, know that we know. A story that law enforcement used to

spk_0 convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence

spk_0 and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Kerr.

spk_0 My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, producer, and I wouldn't

spk_0 be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her,

spk_0 or rape, or burn, or any of that other stuff that y'all said it. They literally made me say that

spk_0 I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.

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spk_0 And so I pointed the gun at him and said this isn't a joke. And he got down and I remember feeling

spk_0 kind of a surge of like, okay, this is power. Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother tried to

spk_0 solve my problems through hypnotism. We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're like

spk_0 super charming all the time. Being more able to look at people in the eye. Not always hide behind

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spk_0 While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of dissolutioned

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spk_0 Listen to IVF disrupted the Kind Body story starting September 19 on the I Heart Radio app,

spk_0 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You also see the consumer side effect of this,

spk_0 where it's unscrupulous and it's crazy. So, friend of the show Seth Harp put this up here on

spk_0 that people on Amazon have AI'd his book and are selling it there. I guess either pulling the text

spk_0 from Google Books or something like that and they're able to set up some sort of dropship where

spk_0 you have an AI knockoff of the book versus the genuine piece. As he says here, quote, we need to

spk_0 rise up and stop the tech industry by force. Our livelihoods are culture and our ecological

spk_0 environment are worth fighting for. I am deadly serious. I like his energy. But what he points out

spk_0 is that his book actually explicitly states that he has a copyright proviso. It can't,

spk_0 according to his copyright, be fed into AI systems. But instead, what's happened is somehow

spk_0 somebody's been able to do that and they've been able to explode everywhere online. And what I

spk_0 think also was very crazy is that this is just one of the more high profile examples because the

spk_0 Fort Brad Cartel was such a popular book. I saw other authors show that their books also had

spk_0 quote AI competitors when you search for it. You also had this instance where immediately after

spk_0 the whole Charlie Kirk thing happened that there were these weird books that started going everywhere

spk_0 like in terms of biographies of Charlie. So we have that. There were even some that were like,

spk_0 you know, everything we know about Charles Kirk's assassination. That popped up like, you know,

spk_0 immediately because some AI entrepreneur, quote unquote, fraudster really saw the opportunity,

spk_0 saw that there was a lot of public interest and just said to, you know, Chachi Petir, whatever,

spk_0 write me a book about what we know on Charlie Kirk's murder. Spon that thing up immediately and

spk_0 instantly it's up on Amazon. Like, it's insane. Let's go and put that on the screen, can we? It is

spk_0 a eight please just to show everybody. So you can see these AI slot books about Charlie Kirk's

spk_0 assassination ignited conspiracy theories online. Like you just said about siops. I mean, look,

spk_0 this is my biggest concern. And in fact, what we have talked about with Sora, the amount of AI

spk_0 videos that are now just explicitly going viral about, you know, there's the famous ones that are

spk_0 boomers, but I saw a few yesterday. People sent them to me now because they know that I'm interested

spk_0 and it's like a woman trying to save her son from a crocodile getting eaten. It's uncanny valley

spk_0 where I can tell, but I mean, if no offense to our older audience, but if you're like 50 or 60,

spk_0 I could see how you fall. They have tens of thousands of views. Like they're going everywhere.

spk_0 And the reason why they churn this stuff out is because they can churn an unbelievable amount of

spk_0 slop. If even a couple go viral, let's say it can cover the cost of what the generation is. And

spk_0 then you do that at scale forever. It's a classic content business where they only need a few of

spk_0 these things, you know, to actually to go viral. I've seen apparently this is like all I'm not

spk_0 really on Facebook. Apparently, this is like most of what Facebook is at this point because that's

spk_0 where the boomers congregate. That's right. So they would be vulnerable to it. And it's just like

spk_0 AI slop generated by fake AI accounts served to other fake AI accounts that, you know, are then

spk_0 some percentage of boomers are also taken in by myself. Enjoy a good cat video. I was watching

spk_0 some cat video talks yesterday. And I realized I was like, I don't know if this is real or not.

spk_0 I mean, it's pretty low stakes when you're talking about a cat video. But when you're talking about,

spk_0 you know, something serious, which any of us could imagine, you know, political figure or whatever,

spk_0 then it's a different deal. It's very destabilizing for our shared understanding of reality. And

spk_0 it's already good enough that we're at that point, even though, you know, a trained eye can tell

spk_0 most of the real from the fake. Exactly. And let's continue here. A8c please. This was from Robyn

spk_0 Williams daughter. I thought it was actually such a nice message where she said, is, quote, please

spk_0 stop sending me AI videos of dad. If you have any decency, stop doing this to him and to me,

spk_0 to everyone, even full stop, it's dumb. It's a waste of time and energy. Believe me, it is not what

spk_0 he would want to watch the legacies of real people be contends down to this vaguely looks and sounds

spk_0 like him. So that is so that's enough. Just so other people can turn out horrible tick-tock slop,

spk_0 puppeteering them is maddening. You are not making art. You are making disgusting, over-process

spk_0 hot dogs out of the lives of human beings, out of the history of art and music, and then shoving

spk_0 them down someone else's throat, hoping they will give you a little thumbs up and like it's gross.

spk_0 And for the love of everything, stop calling, quote, it the future. AI is just badly recycling

spk_0 and regurgitating the past to be reconcumed. You are taking in the human centipede of content,

spk_0 and from the very very end of the line, all while the folks at the front laugh and laugh consume

spk_0 and consume. So that is from Robert Williams, daughter. Zelda, really appreciate that from her.

spk_0 And at the same time, we talked about China earlier. We weren't able to cover this bridge,

spk_0 but there's this new video going out and going massively viral. For the right reasons, it's not AI.

spk_0 China has now officially opened the world's tallest bridge. They did it in less than four years.

spk_0 The bridge has a restaurant at the top, 2,600 feet above the river. The bridge cuts a two-hour

spk_0 drive to two minutes, features a theme park with a glass sky walk, a high-speed glass elevator,

spk_0 and a waterfall off of the top of the bridge. Visitors can bungee jump off of it.

spk_0 Grand Canyon Bridge is 2,050 feet above the river and spans 4,600 feet across, quote, insane.

spk_0 And you can see here that is a waterfall feature. It must be nice to live in a real country.

spk_0 Last time that we were doing stuff like this is when Hoover Dam, that was over almost 100 years ago.

spk_0 I mean, Hoover Dam is pretty awesome. People are making the comparison of the bridge that

spk_0 was knocked down by the ship in Baltimore. And how long it will take for them. I mean, I think they

spk_0 have started construction, which is actually pretty good for America's standards, but it's going to

spk_0 be years and years before that thing is complete. And that's just a basic aspect. I mean, look,

spk_0 it's an extraordinary modern marvel, et cetera, but it's also like nothing special in the

spk_0 grand scheme of bridges. And that will take much longer than the four years apparently that they

spk_0 were able to construct this in. And that's not all. Some incredible scientific breakthroughs

spk_0 coming out of China that we would be remiss if we didn't mention. Let's put A11 up on the screen.

spk_0 So they apparently have been able to innovate in terms of potential anti-aging.

spk_0 Chinese scientists achieve a breakthrough and reverse aging in primates. They've demonstrated

spk_0 that genetically engineered human stem cells can reverse key signs of aging in monkeys. And these

spk_0 were, you know, monkeys very similar to humans, marking major step toward potential therapies

spk_0 for age-related decline in humans. This is one development that our friend Arno Bertrand

spk_0 looked into and said, yeah, looks pretty legit and pretty potentially transformational.

spk_0 They also recently developed this bone glue. This is a 10 that we can put up on the screen

spk_0 that, you know, instead of if you have these micro fractures and complex procedures that you'd

spk_0 have to do requiring like screws and metal plates and all the rest, they've developed this bone

spk_0 glue that repairs bone fractures. They say in just three minutes, another one that Arno Bertrand

spk_0 looked into and said, man, looks pretty legit. So that's what they're up to. Now they are also

spk_0 in on the AI race. Yeah, deep-seek among other, they're also not the only Chinese competitor

spk_0 in the AI development race, but it's not apparently what their entire economy is based on as is our.

spk_0 The point is is that they can have all of the above because they have the real stuff, they have

spk_0 actual functioning government, they have a plan. It comes with a lot of trade-offs, okay? You know,

spk_0 I'll always be remiss if we didn't say there are a lot of trade-offs, but I have to be honest. It is

spk_0 looking, you know, it is challenging the Western conception of itself on a daily basis. They are

spk_0 like the Japanese of the 1900s, which could prove that you could leap a single generation and you

spk_0 could catch up to the West. And in many cases, you can actually do it a lot better than them,

spk_0 but with the system, which is completely foreign, completely in some ways, either antithetical or

spk_0 different to whatever is actually happening, you know, with the so-called like amazing creative

spk_0 destruction. And instead, it's entirely state-powered, it's state-sponsored, and it's just the sheer

spk_0 force of will. It also, what we have to note, is it explains that weird hot mic moment between

spk_0 Putin and Xi Jinping talking about organ transplants and immortality. So maybe Xi was in on this

spk_0 anti-aging secret. Let's relive that for people who haven't seen it.

spk_0 In the past, people rarely lived longer than 70 years, but today they say that at 70, you're still a

spk_0 human organs can be continuously transplanted. The longer you live, the younger you come,

spk_0 and can even achieve immortality. The two of them talking about immortality, maybe Xi was in on

spk_0 this, but you know, people saw, I mean, even I said, I was like, oh, it's kind of like a god complex,

spk_0 I'm like, maybe she's reality. Maybe that's what the world's super rich, and especially the leader

spk_0 of one of the most developing countries in the world can look at and can say, no, this is actually

spk_0 going to happen in my lifetime. But I think you just put it together and you put their, you put

spk_0 their production, their economic structure, their values, and then you look at ours and you're like,

spk_0 come on, what are we doing here? I mean, they would never allow themselves to be in a situation

spk_0 where some 80% of their entire growth is attributed in their stock market to a single sector of the

spk_0 economy, same with their GDP growth. Now, look, again, I've said they had a lot of problems. In fact,

spk_0 that book I just read by Dan Wang, these bridges, they're obsessed with these bridges. It's like,

spk_0 everything is about infrastructure. It's almost new deal-ask, you know, civilian conservation.

spk_0 It's like, just go and build rest stops. Who cares if anybody uses something? I mean, there's

spk_0 something there. The point, actually, I think for them is to project the legitimacy of the state

spk_0 outside of Beijing, Shanghai, Guangdong, like the big cities. They have to go out into the rural areas

spk_0 and be like, I tangibly am making your life better. You used to literally have to go two hours on

spk_0 some mountain path. I just built you a big ass bridge. People are going to come from all over China

spk_0 to come in to see it. And it's awesome. And they do that with train stations, rural train stations,

spk_0 everywhere all across here. Even if people don't use them, just to show people the

spk_0 governments here, we're here to help. We've made your life better. You were living in the 21st century,

spk_0 even if you used to live in a backwater, what we would have considered it. I mean, there's

spk_0 something there, right? In terms of legitimacy and projection, sure, it's not purely a capitalist or

spk_0 makes sense from an efficiency point of view. But it does from a more grand strategic way of

spk_0 trying to disperse like big growth and big projects all over the country. In some ways,

spk_0 that's what makes to be more of a unified country. And of course, they have division, they have all

spk_0 kinds of problems. But listen, I would like to have their problems personally. I would like to have

spk_0 that issue of too many bridges and too many infrastructure projects as opposed to what we're saying

spk_0 the Baltimore bridge, which apparently is barely, you know, we're not even a projected timeline

spk_0 to finish all that quickly. How many potholes you and I drive here in Washington, D.C. area

spk_0 every day? It's a shithole. Like it's a shithole. And nobody does anything about it. And everybody's

spk_0 blaming each other. The metro hour, you know, on our premier flagship city here in Washington,

spk_0 over the last 10 years, it's gotten so much worse, probably the same with a lot of different

spk_0 public transportation. I was, I mean, our government is literally shut down. Yeah, our government

spk_0 has shut down. And there's like no one even cares. No hope of it reopening anytime soon.

spk_0 Air travel is apparently slowed. I know there's a smaller airport that have no air traffic control.

spk_0 Like that's the level of dysfunction that we're at in this country. And especially, I mean, you know,

spk_0 especially when you have the crackdown and dissent now that's coming from this country as well.

spk_0 It's not like we can even be like, yeah, but at least we're free. At least we can say whatever we

spk_0 want. Oh, really, we're about to tell you about Barry Weiss taking over CBS news. So how's that

spk_0 going for us as well? Yeah, listen, should we go should we should we transition? It's a good transition.

spk_0 All I know is what I've been told and that's a half truth is a whole lie.

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