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spk_0 Welcome to another episode of Rough Talk VR, a weekly podcast with in-depth game reviews,

spk_0 exclusive developer interviews, and the latest meta quest in virtual reality news.

spk_0 We join our hosts, the father-son team of discreptals and stratus today, as they spend

spk_0 another episode breaking down in discussing the world of virtual reality.

spk_0 Hey, welcome to this episode of Rough Talk VR.

spk_0 Come and add you with another edition of VR News, and we are recording this one on the

spk_0 Sunday with no time limitations, of course, within reason.

spk_0 Still got a YouTube live to do after, but last week we were, got to eat, dude.

spk_0 Last week we did a squeezed in on a Saturday night after you got out of work, and we kind

spk_0 of rushed through it.

spk_0 That's not a good idea.

spk_0 Not do it.

spk_0 That's not an option with us.

spk_0 We've been four and a half years in, never missed a week yet.

spk_0 And when we've traveled, we've always banked episodes and such, so we're not about to

spk_0 start yet.

spk_0 But we have a little bit more of a traditional paste episode today.

spk_0 So I'm excited for it.

spk_0 There's a long list of news to go over some new games, game updates, reveals, sales

spk_0 numbers with headsets.

spk_0 Well, not really sales numbers, but uses numbers.

spk_0 We had a fun episode ahead of us.

spk_0 But first, I do have to plug.

spk_0 I know routine listeners with a show have heard it, but as I've learned with the discord,

spk_0 sometimes it takes that one time that you know, you think you've said it enough times.

spk_0 That one extra time you say it is when it clicks with people.

spk_0 So I'll throw it in here that we have two big events coming up to close out 2025.

spk_0 The first one I'm so excited for because it's something new that we've never done before.

spk_0 We're doing a roughathon stream.

spk_0 Pretty much a telethon, but with streaming, 12 hours of marvelous fun.

spk_0 Yes, we announced that we're starting at 9 a.m. I think we can say at this point, the

spk_0 plan is to go 9 to 9, 9 a.m. to 9 p.m.

spk_0 Subjected.

spk_0 Eastern time.

spk_0 Very good distinction there because we have listeners all over the world.

spk_0 But 12 hour gap kind of can touch on anybody who is all over the world.

spk_0 That's the goal.

spk_0 It is a Saturday.

spk_0 That's the minimum.

spk_0 We went with a Saturday because we wanted 24 hours.

spk_0 That's what you're pushing for it.

spk_0 But I'm willing, and we'll talk about this more as we get closer.

spk_0 Some kind of stretch goals if we hit certain numbers.

spk_0 Maybe we could go in pretty ridiculous to hit the numbers.

spk_0 Well, shoot for the moon, right?

spk_0 See where you actually land.

spk_0 And I'd rather do that though.

spk_0 I'd rather go high.

spk_0 But we'll do in at least 12 hours.

spk_0 It's going to be a mix of on camera streaming like this.

spk_0 Our community hangouts.

spk_0 We do every Sunday, usually around 3 p.m. Eastern time on YouTube.

spk_0 But just talking with the community, that's going to be part of it.

spk_0 We're going to do our news episode like we're doing now, but we're going to do it live.

spk_0 That's probably my most nervous part of it all.

spk_0 Sometimes we do make some corrections and stuff in the editing.

spk_0 So we got to be on our tip top, tippy top game for that.

spk_0 We're also going to be doing some VR game streaming, both with just me and you.

spk_0 Gaming with the community, gaming with you know, you the listener.

spk_0 And then also gaming with some of our favorite game developers as well too.

spk_0 Doesn't mean if we're not including that person in the stream that they're not part of our favorite game developers.

spk_0 That's why I say some of our favorite game developers already have some studios committed to it.

spk_0 Some more to go as well.

spk_0 So there's a lot of planning going on, but I'm comfortable to say at least 12 hours of live streaming.

spk_0 Dude, if nobody was involved, it's still 12 hours.

spk_0 Oh, my God, we can do 12 hours just on the camera like this.

spk_0 It's not, you know, we're just trying to piece together something.

spk_0 Actually, what we realized when we were starting to plot together the schedule of like,

spk_0 let's dream with this person here like 12 hours goes fast, man.

spk_0 It's not a lot of time in a production since.

spk_0 No, I think we could have I think I'm kind of starting to lean with you like the 24, you know,

spk_0 but we'll start with 12. We'll see where it goes.

spk_0 The schedule I'll say on paper is tight.

spk_0 It's very aggressive and that doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room.

spk_0 No, especially when you're dealing with technology that, you know, in 12 hours straight,

spk_0 you're going to tell me YouTube's not going to shut down 12 hours.

spk_0 We're going to need a hot spot back up.

spk_0 We will, we will iron this out as we get close.

spk_0 It's a lot, dude.

spk_0 You're going to have a couple different ways for people to donate, whether through YouTube or

spk_0 whether through PayPal, you know, we'll have all those options available and as well,

spk_0 the goals that we want to hit and stuff like that.

spk_0 And again, the point of this, we didn't say it today, but I've said it before,

spk_0 the point of this live stream is to help fund our new podcast studio.

spk_0 We're building in my garage.

spk_0 We've been taking up a room in my spot for, you know, four years now between where I used to live

spk_0 in our current spot.

spk_0 So I think it'll we're well deserved to have our own physical permanent location with the studio as

spk_0 well. But there's a lot of work that goes into that, you know, laying down flooring, walls,

spk_0 eight back, building the actual structure of itself furnishing potentially new equipment.

spk_0 So there's a lot of stuff in the rough,

spk_0 the thorns designed to help take us over the line.

spk_0 And it's going to be, you know, I think we're talking about some fun incentives and stuff for

spk_0 donations as well too. So stay tuned for all that info coming before November 1st.

spk_0 But the rough, the thorns going to be on Saturday, November 1st, at least 9 a.m. to 9 p.m.

spk_0 We are accepting studio sponsors for as well too. So if you're a game studio, you're a game developer,

spk_0 we have a lot of different tiers, depending on the extent you want to support.

spk_0 And if you're interested in that, definitely let us know.

spk_0 I think you you were saying something kind of tongue in cheek off air a couple weeks ago.

spk_0 But it's true like, well, no, man, because I mean, I'll be we're pretty open.

spk_0 You know what I'm saying? We don't we do everything we do for free.

spk_0 If we were to do like a behind the curtain, there's not much behind the curtain that you don't

spk_0 already know. But it's like, there's there's been a lot of people we've met who've been like,

spk_0 oh, you know, I wish it was a way I could I could do more or help or whatever. And it's like, well,

spk_0 you know, you now you kind of can. And if you ever wanted to support us, this is the opportunity.

spk_0 Yeah. 100%. It's like, I don't think I'm I very rarely ever will come out and be like,

spk_0 oh, you know, it's like, we need money. You know, but the studio is expensive. We got to take things

spk_0 on. That dude, it's like, you know, I'll peel the curtain back on some other. There's a lot of

spk_0 expenses, you know, we don't have to break down details, but there is a bulk of expenses that occur

spk_0 monthly, regardless of studio or anything else. And you know, we started it as a really more of a

spk_0 passion project of love, no video. And it's just, you know, we were constantly pushing ourselves to

spk_0 just take shit to the next level. But essentially, it's like, we need the funds. It's like, there's

spk_0 no, no nicer way to say it. Studio aside. You have that thing completed right now. I'd probably

spk_0 still make argument because there's a lot of shit that has to be gotten. And it's like, we've

spk_0 eaten so much over the years. We travel costs. So it's like, this is that and I do I feel so blessed

spk_0 for the opportunities to go at the times, the times that we've had sponsors to bring us places,

spk_0 you know, like Germany, I know a lot of the people who had their hands in that. I'll forever be

spk_0 fucking grateful to the core for that. But there's also a lot of times that shit happens. Other

spk_0 expenses that come up, you know, and even if a trip is sponsored, there's other expenses that come

spk_0 with it that aren't sponsored. Yeah, well, so again, I'm not going to dissect it, but it's not

spk_0 well, also say it all peeled back the curtain a little bit more. And this isn't to throw shade on

spk_0 any other creator. I don't I don't disparage anyone for doing their hustle, but for ourselves,

spk_0 personally, how we do coverage and stuff, we don't charge any game to talk about their game. And

spk_0 there's a lot of people, it's all I'll say is that there's a lot of people that won't talk about

spk_0 your game. Let's know unless you pay them. I mean, that's not the case with us. Like we do that

spk_0 everything on this news list, the people don't even know that we're going to talk about it. We just

spk_0 talk about it, you know, same but a lot of times when we cover a game and give our opinions,

spk_0 it's not like it was a discussion with the developer that I don't do it. I want the organics of

spk_0 a true developer who listens to the show, who's going to hear it on Monday, probably not even

spk_0 with the intention or hope that it does get talked about. Like, oh my god, the rough talk guys

spk_0 talked about it. But every single week, you send me a message that could send to rough talk. That's

spk_0 like somebody, you know, hey, thanks for talking about my game or you know, so dude, we do it,

spk_0 we do because we love to, but unfortunately, what we love to do is in free. Well, we do it for free,

spk_0 but it's not free. If on our end. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, that's what I'm saying. It's like

spk_0 from a business standpoint on paper, like nobody would ever advise you to do it or say, and it's

spk_0 like it has its moments where it isn't always that case. But you know what I'm saying? This is the

spk_0 year of we've never been paid to cover this. We've never really, we've never said we won't cover it

spk_0 unless we're paid like, we've never do it all for free. We've never begged. You know, I've never begged.

spk_0 You might have begged your bag in now. No, no, I am, dude. I said a couple weeks ago to you,

spk_0 I go, dude, man, I go, there's ever been in my net weird, that weird thing because I'm not like,

spk_0 oh, stand on a street corner and type of guy. But fuck, dude, it's like we would just need it and I

spk_0 want to keep going and I keep on to keep doing it. And I'm thinking of every one of those people

spk_0 we have meant that's always like, oh man, if there's anything, it's like, yes, this is the moment.

spk_0 Yeah, I buy bucks a cup of coffee, you know, a hundred bucks. I don't care. It's like, I,

spk_0 it's like, I'm coming out and saying it's like, I like the way you ordered it.

spk_0 I prefer to me a couple of weeks ago or we could go have a long go to it as well. It's like,

spk_0 if you've ever wanted to support your studio or develop, you've ever wanted to support us.

spk_0 Yeah. Now is now is the time. And we have a wide range of sponsorship tier. It's as well, too,

spk_0 not talking the donation. You know, we call them platinum, gold, silver, and bronze. So I'll

spk_0 let you use your imagination there. And like, yeah, just if you've ever been looking to support,

spk_0 you know, just hit us up. And this is definitely the event to do it. And then our other event,

spk_0 I would, I would love to see more studio support than community support. I'll say community,

spk_0 because they tune in. Listen, that's more than enough to me, you know, in being part of charity

spk_0 events and fundraisers. The community side is big. It's always amazed me that the person that

spk_0 will give you the most is the person who had the least to give. And it kills me inside when you

spk_0 see that go down in like a real real time thing. And you're like, that's weird, man.

spk_0 Don't care what part of the country you're in. It's always going to be that way. I mean,

spk_0 yeah, you could have a mega donor, right? And they exist and they do their thing, but

spk_0 ungrasp roots on the ground. It's never the due with the Rolex coming over and stuff at $100

spk_0 into a donation bin. It's like a family who's like happy to give it for like a holiday thing. And

spk_0 you know, they don't have it to give holy crap. But that being said, that's why I'd much rather

spk_0 see a company be like, yo, if your game studio or develop or you've ever wanted to support,

spk_0 like I said, this is this is your time. And but we still will have a lot of community of

spk_0 participation. And we even have something community. We even have some incentives we want to give

spk_0 for. Don't see. We'll announce those as we get closer. But then our other event we're doing

spk_0 on Saturday, December 13th, talk about another free one. That's the rough talk VR gaming showcases.

spk_0 Our first ever winter one, we're at over 30 studios have applied to participate so far. So if

spk_0 you're a studio or developer and you have a trailer, a new game, an update to a game, any big

spk_0 beat that you want to push out in December, we have the rough talk VR gaming showcase right before

spk_0 the hall days on December 13th. You know, you can apply to that. That's another one. We don't

spk_0 charge for participation. We do have sponsorships, but there's a lot of developers. They're pretty

spk_0 quite, they're frank about it. Like I don't have anything to, you know, it's tough as an indie

spk_0 dev. And we're just happy to promote the industry and their game and stuff like that. So if you have

spk_0 something you want to show off in December, fill out the link in our show notes or the episode

spk_0 description, you know, below right there. And you know, we'll get you in the showcase was like I

spk_0 said, already over 30 30 applied and somehow, if feeling there's going to be many more that come

spk_0 before December. So stay tuned for that again. That's Saturday, December 13th live on YouTube.

spk_0 So two really fun events to close out the year one November first, the other one December 13th.

spk_0 And then I'd be hard pressed and not say this. We do have a rough talk VR discount code for any game

spk_0 or app on the meta quest store, including hardware. If you buy your hardware through the meta quest

spk_0 store, you can save 10% on any app game or hardware on the meta quest store by using all one word

spk_0 code word rough talk VR at checkout and full disclosure that does help support the show as well too.

spk_0 We get a little trickle down from that too, but most importantly, you saved 10% who didn't want to

spk_0 save 10% right? So good stuff there. And then probably the biggest news for me this last week,

spk_0 just because I'm biased love some walk about many off. We've been hooked on the closest pop

spk_0 mode. Probably the first ever guy I hate to humble brag. The first ever game mode I've been able to

spk_0 get the better of you. Usually I get my butt whooped and walk about the closest pop mode has made me

spk_0 such a better gamer at walk about many golf. I can actually put good now. So I'm super sad about

spk_0 that one of my favorite VR games in general. And I know we were both excited to see this. They announced

spk_0 their next course coming to walk about many golf called Forgotten Fairyland. I didn't see,

spk_0 oh, actually, yeah, no, it's coming this week on October 9th this Thursday.

spk_0 I know the squads already got a gameplay setup to roll. You know, when they showed the little teaser,

spk_0 I kind of nailed it. For once I nailed it. So I'm not upset about that. But now it's just a

spk_0 freaking waiting game, dude. Well, wink less than one week. October 9th. It's like, yeah, everyone will

spk_0 get to play it. I think this one's going to be good. It's called Forgotten Fairyland. The teasers

spk_0 that they're showing of it, it looks, I want the balls. She's some carnival looking stuff in the back.

spk_0 I see a roller coaster on the image, like a roller coaster track. Perfect timing for Halloween.

spk_0 But you know what? Do you think they'll come out with one before Halloween?

spk_0 It's walk about. They could do one every week and I want to be surprised, you know.

spk_0 It's coming out on the night on Thursday. So they don't enough to cover it for.

spk_0 It's a good idea. Forgotten Fairyland, it looks a little Halloweeny in the like text aesthetic

spk_0 of the logo of it. Forgotten Fairyland. I'm excited for this one. I think the environment's going

spk_0 to be fitting for the month and it's going to be fitting for outside the season.

spk_0 Because I don't think there's anything that's going to scream like, oh, you only want to play

spk_0 this on Halloween or we'll check out the paragraph that they put when they announced it.

spk_0 Just off a lonely highway lies the ruins of Fairyland amusement park.

spk_0 Once full of childhood joy, it now sits in eerie decay yet something stirs within.

spk_0 So I'm excited for the foxon on this. Excited for the lost balls, the music. But most importantly,

spk_0 I'm excited for the gameplay of this one and seeing what this course offers us. So stay tuned for

spk_0 walk about mini golf. Forgotten Fairyland this Thursday on October 9th. And they did tease also

spk_0 on social media and updated UI that they were showing off with it. So if you haven't checked out

spk_0 to walk about mini golf socials, definitely go on there and check that out because like always,

spk_0 they never just do the bare minimum. Looks like they're overhauling the UI of the main menu as well too

spk_0 when they gave a little sneak peek of that. So cool stuff there. And now to kick off the actual

spk_0 news, although like those like like walk about new course as an actual news, but this is the part

spk_0 where we start to lob it back and forth from each other. Tighten aisles, a game that just came out

spk_0 on the MetaQuest last week. They have already announced a new update that brings a new game plus

spk_0 mode. New game plus is usually when you beat a game, you can restart it with in some cases,

spk_0 it's like your stats carry over other cases. It's like a, you know, difference in the actual game

spk_0 like story or whatever itself. In this case, the new game plus mode is going to bring harder

spk_0 enemies, increased chip values and adjustments to the tight the trident, the trident Titan Bosses

spk_0 laser targeting. So cool stuff man. Newt Titan aisles from side tech games. We interviewed John

spk_0 Hibbons the other week as well and the lead up to it. One of the best co-op games to drop this year

spk_0 and it already has a new game plus mode to it. That's huge. I'm not shocked, but I'm shocked.

spk_0 I would have let it stew for a week, you know. One week and they already got this. That's insane.

spk_0 Well, less than a week technically. No, he's got to do it. I mean, shit, when we interviewed him,

spk_0 we had played it, which is cool that we were able to say that we played it. It's a great freaking

spk_0 game, dude. And I always say it's like one of my favorite co-op games are there. But like,

spk_0 if you don't have somebody play with, it's a great single player game as well too. Don't let

spk_0 that description scare you. That's just because I love co-op gaming. It's a great top to top to

spk_0 bottom game single player or co-op. And it's currently out on questions team, but there's a PSVR

spk_0 2 version coming in 2026 as well. We got a new player coming to the game and all I can say is

spk_0 the video looks cool. I'm biased. It's a rhythm game. It's a rhythm game. This one's called

spk_0 Rager, which just makes me chuckle. There's a million jokes. The game makes me get a Rager.

spk_0 So never mind. Rager in my cage. I've been saying that so often too. That's funny that that's

spk_0 what you went to. Well, he's Rager and the cage are from. I don't know, because my grade went to it.

spk_0 Right away. It's the first thing I said when I heard this name and I don't like other people

spk_0 looked at me like, what are you talking about? Why are you saying that? I don't know. Maybe it's

spk_0 genetic. That's the first thing my brain went to though. Rager and the cage. Oh, was it was

spk_0 Rage in the cage at WWE event? Yeah. I'm almost pumped. Oh my god. I think that's what it is.

spk_0 It's Rage in the cage. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I do have to say because you're biased

spk_0 about this for a rhythm game. It's published by Impact Inked. I work for them. But that doesn't

spk_0 mean shit. It's Giva kind of laid it out that if the it's not biased if the game is good. So

spk_0 and that led me into the whole. Impact vetting process that certainly isn't just going to take

spk_0 everything that shows up in the mail or calls. It's like there's a real process here.

spk_0 Somebody who works there, I'll say if if it says impacting Donets, you can probably say I enjoy

spk_0 the game. No, I wouldn't say that because I just going to be a genre. They're going to pick up

spk_0 some time when you're going to fucking hate it. Well, not going to be in this bad game.

spk_0 Which is means you're not going to like it. We published Cactus Jam, which is a grill attack

spk_0 you movement game. We are a cactus. You know, that's not my go to type of game by any means.

spk_0 Yeah, we have been. You got shadow accounts for a grill. But I won't lie. I went into

spk_0 cactus jam and I was like, all right, I'm enjoying this. There's team deathmatch and stuff.

spk_0 I wanted to grow tag and I couldn't get past the tutorial. And I'm like, what the fuck, man?

spk_0 What am I doing wrong? Dude, some of those kids, they got Orion drift coming out.

spk_0 The same another axiom. I'm going to get lit up in that game. It's like Sockery. But none of us,

spk_0 all are even to knew. Yeah, good luck. So anyways, the game we're supposed to be talking about.

spk_0 This one's going to be big. This isn't and that's why I wanted it because it's like,

spk_0 remember, I always say like, oh, if I could invest in a game, it's like, this would be the one.

spk_0 I think this one's going to leave its mark in the rhythm game world. So it's launching October

spk_0 Nights in early access on PC VR and Quest. It's going to be using like electronic music.

spk_0 What they're saying in the article from our boy Henry. Yes, is it? Yeah, Henry Stockdale.

spk_0 Very, very electronic EDM type music. I don't see anything in here that's not. You got dark synth,

spk_0 metal step industrial bass, wardroams, drum and bass, and more. I don't think the end more is

spk_0 going to be like an acoustic except on block their MTV on plugs out here. Yeah. So man,

spk_0 you got weapons in your arms and you got enemies coming at you and you already know you're going to

spk_0 have to like attack or block these enemies in timing, which is I think the uniqueness they're

spk_0 bringing. But it's got my attention. It's and already have it. I think I actually bugged you

spk_0 last week like, yo, man, I know who's behind this. What the fuck do we talk about at this Monday?

spk_0 Like, what do we do? You know, just so people know the seriousness of NDAs. It's like you would

spk_0 think just because of who you work for. I'd be privy to shit. That's not always the case. I'm

spk_0 privy to what I'm allowed to be privy to aside from that. You're like, I'm privy to the same

spk_0 amount as you people. What the fuck is this? I know as much as you and you know, like, oh, god,

spk_0 you guys are working on rager. Yeah. What sucks is I know my heart of hearts. You played

spk_0 every single one of these that I have to say here and yeah, fuck you. I already know. What's this?

spk_0 My mic cut out. What's this? Yeah. It and great. So there, there, there is a demo, but I'm avoiding it.

spk_0 I can't. I don't want to. I know what's going to be. I know this is going to be golden.

spk_0 I've never heard of somebody dislike demos more than you. Hate demos.

spk_0 You're like, just give me the fucking game. Just give me the whole damn game. Just coming out

spk_0 October 9th. Ooh. Same day. Walk about. Walk about. Oh, no. October 9th is going to be a big day.

spk_0 Man, all I can do is add it to wish list though. How much? How much will rager be? I'm going to

spk_0 guess easy 20 bucks. Easy, maybe 2499. Let me see if this is insane in the article. Does it?

spk_0 I'm kind of digging the music. I'm not going to lie. There's a side of me that you saw in Boston

spk_0 that really likes that music. Oh, dude. I think you, uh, you clubbed harder than

spk_0 that we popped into a Twitch club. A Twitch event that was at a club. Dude, that DJ. She was bad.

spk_0 What's her name? Uh, she's like legit. Okay. Okay. Okay. Dude, her schedule was off the charts.

spk_0 Nye beats. I think it is. Yeah. Good job. Elmana took out. I had a dig deep in the brain there.

spk_0 She was good. That was a fun event. Dude. But no, that's actually a good point. I think you're

spk_0 going to vibe to this game. I can already tell. All I'm going to say is next week, I'm going to

spk_0 shut off my microphone and I'm just going to let you talk about it for like 10 minutes.

spk_0 Well, yeah, before I can tell you want to talk about this one. I want it. That's what I want.

spk_0 I've been hearing about it daily. It has all the makings that I just want to confirm that my

spk_0 gut is right. Well, I want the sounds going to be good. The gameplay is going to be good. Henry

spk_0 and his clat and his great journalism, as always. I love the description. Rager aims to blend

spk_0 timing-based melee combat with an electronic soundtrack across a campaign where you take down

spk_0 robotic enemies across short but high energy duels. I feel like that is a...

spk_0 And dude, the music choice, if you think about it, the beats. The one thing all these genres have

spk_0 that they're, you know, from industrial to the drum and bass is what a solid beat. And you need

spk_0 that for solid rhythm, you know? So I'm intrigued. And then are they going to use all like

spk_0 original songs or are they going to use like songs that people would know if they're like hardcore

spk_0 until like dark synth? Well, this is one we'll definitely have to talk about more next week.

spk_0 So you'll catch me next week. We're going to be making inappropriate jokes to each other on

spk_0 party chat about the name for all Thursday night you playing it. It's going to be good.

spk_0 This can be a good one. It looks like it has potential. Yeah, I'll say it. But again, I'm biased.

spk_0 From the outside looking in, you know, I just can say it's got potential, you know? Dude,

spk_0 for years I've said I'll stop enjoying rhythm games when one shows up that's not bringing

spk_0 something original. You have to bring something to kind of like walk about in a new mechanic.

spk_0 There's not many that do the melee combat style. Do you think what do you think the new

spk_0 mechanic will be for walk about like gameplay wise? I don't know. There's a lot you could do in

spk_0 amusement park. But you look at all of our favorite rhythm games like unplugged. We were just

spk_0 talking about before this case, we were talking about Rody. You know, check. Check it, check it,

spk_0 check it. You go check a check of one, two, the next thing I know you're playing. Check it,

spk_0 check it, check it. You're Rody playing off your phone now. I'm like, we got to hop into it tonight.

spk_0 But unplugged brings its own thing beat Saber. They're the king of the Sabers. They're the king

spk_0 of the remastered. Trombone champ is the Trombone. That's unique. My stroke, my stroke using the

spk_0 composer. That's totally unique. That's a jet. You make a great point that they all have to

spk_0 bring something new. Dude, there was an older one. Remember you had the cat and you had to like

spk_0 whip the beats. I think you had the two whips in your hands and you had the cat that walked

spk_0 in front of you. Oh my goodness. Right. I'm going way back. That would have been Apple,

spk_0 I'm shit. But dude, I know I'll get the name of it. But that was original. I remember when it came

spk_0 off. I remember when it came out and we played it. I'm like, shit, they brought something original.

spk_0 They really did. You really do have to bring that original in melee based combat. I don't

spk_0 know how with weapons. I don't know how people are. I'm just unique. How has nobody done this yet?

spk_0 I don't know. Doesn't seem obvious. Dude, yeah, 100%. It almost feels like a little bit after the fall

spk_0 kind of, but after the fall was just a combat game with that little bit of rhythm mechanics.

spk_0 This is a rhythm game. I know. There just happens to be things that can kill you.

spk_0 I agree. You read the description. You go, it hasn't been done yet. Yeah.

spk_0 Like someone had to have done this. I feel like there was a version of something, but I'm not

spk_0 feeling I'm not seeing it. Yeah. So I'm anticipating solid soundtrack, solid sound quality,

spk_0 and performing gameplay, meaning like the hitboxes are going to register where they need to,

spk_0 because there's obviously an element of timing involved. I'll anticipate leaderboards.

spk_0 And hopefully a lot of a lot more songs added. I'm excited for this one. I'm even more excited

spk_0 for next Thursday to talk about it a bit more. But I think when we talk about it, I'm just going

spk_0 to mute and let you run off with it because you disasselive your style of game. Cam, you can

spk_0 like, you're not going to put, oh, you've already played a G. You just be able to throw in your two

spk_0 cents. What's up? My mic's cutting out again. It's a great game. So on a, this one might have

spk_0 been one of the biggest news pieces of the last week. At least to myself selfishly in terms of

spk_0 like games I'm looking forward to. Demio. Maybe the game, Demio in Population 1. I say it all a lot

spk_0 off air. If Demio in Population 1 didn't exist, there might not be a rough talk for our podcast.

spk_0 Like those two games were so big for capturing us. And dude, we went back into Population 1 last week.

spk_0 We got some old school listeners, right? Yeah. You know, we don't ever say shit until it's like

spk_0 real. But we can just throw a teaser. There'd be a reason we went into Pop 1. We'll leave it at that.

spk_0 That's a good point. Somebody's going to think we're interviewing somebody from the studio. But

spk_0 Vr world. That's a big fan of VR. That's too much info. Okay. I'll leave it there. That's all you're

spk_0 gonna get. That's way too much. That's all you're gonna get. That's all you're gonna get out of me.

spk_0 But Population 1 was gonna be our first ever episode of the podcast because we played it for months

spk_0 before we started the podcast. I broke my arm. And I had a cast. And I was like, that's spinny chair

spk_0 right there that you can't see up, but that you can see. Yeah. I did the same exact spinny chair.

spk_0 I put my arm on the arm rest of it. I remember you told our third that. And I was like,

spk_0 I just, that's how I played. I just kept my arm bent in a cast resting on the chair. And I just

spk_0 swiveled around and dude, I still did pretty good. Do we came in second twice? Twice. Not saying

spk_0 we got a bunch of kills, but we're we're we're convinced. I'll give a shit. The end of the game is

spk_0 who wins, right? If I get one kill and it's just the kill that wins the game, I'm happy. Everyone,

spk_0 they came out with that city upgrade. And we're all bouncing around the map. And I jumped into,

spk_0 I'm like, oh, I'm gonna jump in this garbage can, which it should never let you do. You should

spk_0 stand on top of it. And I went right into it. And I'm like, dude, come in the room. Can you see me?

spk_0 And you came in the room. It was a blatant exploit. Blaten. I think we did it like three or four

spk_0 times. We even talked about it on the air. We were like, we're gonna get banned if we get

spk_0 100% was gonna get banned. I don't support that type of behavior. It was testing. It even got to

spk_0 the point where I was like, dude, make some noise. So they'll come run through the room and just

spk_0 all my cockroaches and population one. And we went back in last week and still did good. I got so

spk_0 much adrenaline. Yeah. Dude, we did two rounds and I instantly get we hop off. I get a message from

spk_0 you. You go, there's that adrenaline. Still get the adrenaline. Um, I want to go back in. What is

spk_0 always been our thing though, with we very rarely play with the third. So when it comes to the end

spk_0 game, whether it's the final two teams, it's usually two teams of three versus a team of two.

spk_0 So there's a reason why we're being a little scavengy because we don't have a third. Well, I care

spk_0 about winning. Yeah. I don't care about getting the most everyone plays different. You can call me

spk_0 any name in the book. I play Ghosts of Tabor. I want to get that one. I want to extract out there

spk_0 with items. I'd prefer to. I don't care about it. I don't mean me wrong. I want to get kills too,

spk_0 but I'm about low in surviving. Same with population one. To to boars in extraction game.

spk_0 No, we're in it. Does it say, you know, don't survive the point is to survive. You need to get

spk_0 from A to B and get the hell out. I always get there. And that's what I like. Dude, you can play any

spk_0 style you can hunt or you can be a fricking rat. It don't matter. Same with population one of our

spk_0 strategies were coming back to me because it had been so long since we played it. And I was like,

spk_0 oh, yeah, I used to hide in the wall like the shrinking wall, the red zone. You would just take

spk_0 energy drinks and shit. Yeah. And I did that a little bit. I started doing it a bit. Dude,

spk_0 we got to go back in. That's a great game. But Demio was the other one and ended up being the

spk_0 first ever episode of Rough Talk VR, which reviewing Demio. Dude, because yeah, it was going to be pop one.

spk_0 And then we were just hooked on Demio hit hard. And I still think of population one. And like,

spk_0 that's what captured us as new VR users like sold. Like I am so sold on the medium. It was,

spk_0 well, it was proof of it working versus like proof of concept. Yeah, it was like it works. You

spk_0 have a full game and not in with Demio, dude, to this day. All other chapters aside, it's one hard

spk_0 fricking game after you get through the fur. It takes a long time. It's still holds up.

spk_0 And they've added so much value to the game. So much into features. And there's other board games

spk_0 we play anything that's like a tabletop. We call it Demio controls. When you can move like they

spk_0 nailed it. You can't demio move it. They nailed it four years ago. Yeah, I mean, obviously, like

spk_0 VR has been around for a lot longer than four years. But in terms of the quest ecosystem, like

spk_0 to me, they pioneered that. Yeah, we weren't the first to do it, but they're the most recognizable for

spk_0 their modern day VR shrinking. And I mean, that was a criticism. A lot of people had a

spk_0 civilization that you didn't have those type of controls. But I digress. Demio and Dungeons or

spk_0 Dragons are doing a collab that was announced a few years ago called Demio. Demio and Dungeons

spk_0 and Dragons battle marked. And it was announced that they have they have announced a

spk_0 November 20th release date. So like a month and a half away. It's really not far away. And that's

spk_0 awesome. They they've shown off some gameplay teasers. And it's going to be coming on all VR

spk_0 platforms being PC VR, PlayStation VR to Quest. I guess I can't say all VR platforms without a

spk_0 peekal there. But PC VR, PlayStation VR to Quest, also flat screen PC and PlayStation 5 all

spk_0 launching on November 20th at the same time for 29, 99 at the same time. They are doing on October

spk_0 13th during the steam next fest festival. They're launching a flat screen only demo that features two

spk_0 quests from the games campaign. You're going to be able to give you the choice between four characters,

spk_0 Dragonborn Paladin, Boothrax, Halfling Source for a Tibi, Human Ranger, Jessex, and Thiefling Rode

spk_0 Ash. And then there's also going to be two more characters at full release that aren't in the demo,

spk_0 a dwarf fighter named Thaurock and an Elf Bard named Luria. And if you complete the demo,

spk_0 the free demo during steam next fest on October 13th, you will unlock exclusive special skins

spk_0 for Battlemarks to 20 sided dice at launch. So that's cool. The games also are going to have,

spk_0 I mean this is some of my favorite titles I'm going to be dropping in this next sentence.

spk_0 The narrative lead for the game is named Matt Cernet, who formerly worked on Boulders Gate 1 and 2,

spk_0 Ice Wind, Ice Wind Dowl and the D&D tabletop game. I was so big on Boulders Gate 1 and 2.

spk_0 As well as Ice Wind Dowl, I love Boulders Gate 3 as well too. So I mean, man, I'm excited for this.

spk_0 The game's going to support up to four players with cross platform multiplayer co-op.

spk_0 This is cool. There's no dungeon master in the game.

spk_0 That was my million dollar question when it was first and hours first and

spk_0 yeah, they came out pretty early saying that there wasn't otherwise. I think they knew that they

spk_0 were going to get questions about it the whole time. So I definitely butchered some of the name

spk_0 pronunciation as well on some of those character names, but you know, can you really blame me

spk_0 both their acts and stuff. But yeah, no demio and dungeon dragon's battle marked November 20th,

spk_0 2999 with a demo coming on steam on October 13th. So definitely check that out. Resolution games

spk_0 is cooking on this one. It's stupid. Excited for it. Yeah, this is going to be big. That's actually

spk_0 the third demio franchise. I just wonder how much is going to be like, how much you'll feel like

spk_0 a carryover from demio versus a new game. Can I be honest with you if one sad thing to me

spk_0 of this? Because it was always my number one request to demio is to make my own character. So when

spk_0 I heard Dunton's and dragons that you'd roll for a character. I was hoping, but no, it's pre-selected

spk_0 characters. Yeah, I'm curious of how much of the engine from demio. Yeah, let's see how this

spk_0 flight plays. But regardless of that, I'm all for it. I'm excited. I'm anxiously awaiting and

spk_0 whether it be flat screen or VR or PC VR or Quest or in the future PSVR 2 or the future.

spk_0 But PlayStation 5 is coming on. Yeah, at launch. Yeah, I mean, I ruled it like it's probably going

spk_0 to happen. Although, some off-air conversations last night have me steering a different direction.

spk_0 And when I'd really like to get what with, uh, okay, yeah, you already know you're not saying it either.

spk_0 But I'm the less. I still would love Gran Turismo. And fucking no man sky dude, it pains me.

spk_0 We got great machines. We shouldn't have to take like tech support to run it. So

spk_0 a speaking of rhythm games, Maestro, probably one of the more authentic style of rhythm game,

spk_0 bringing authenticity with something people are familiar with and like classical music and

spk_0 like songs you know, definitely not EDM, but they are bringing a free dude free DLC. That's huge.

spk_0 Le Creme de Le Creme on Quest and Steam, right? You get cream of the crop. You get new cosmetics,

spk_0 formal orchestra costume. I actually do enjoy it when I unlocked new shit. I'd you

spk_0 desire it or change the um and matching hands. Uh, so

spk_0 so

spk_0 this one's got what we got. Boo. I had to actually

spk_0 booze is how you pronounce something that clearly doesn't look like it would be pronounced.

spk_0 You're a better man. Better man than I looking at up. I would have just long it and gotten it

spk_0 completely runs booze. It's booze. B-I-Z-E-T. It's boozey right there. Some American shit.

spk_0 Visit. Yeah, I was here. Visit. That's funny because this is a big character and um,

spk_0 they've forgotten realms. So it's just non-french stuff. Booze. So you got boozee. Mozar,

spk_0 Beethoven, dude, huge, holst and Brahms. Brahms doing the Hungarian dance number five.

spk_0 Ooh, I guess you're good. But yeah, it's out. It's out now. It is coming soon. The pico and

spk_0 PSVR too. Dude, I love my show. I loved my show when it was just an Instagram thing.

spk_0 That was I got the demo for my show. Yeah, that's how much everyone got the demo for my show. It was

spk_0 so good. And then it went away for years. Yeah, I thought it was just like creature brought it back.

spk_0 Dude, made by double jack. So it's not like creatures developers, but creature used that side quest

spk_0 co-developed with Wild Cheap Studio. Wow. Yeah, with co-development partner.

spk_0 I didn't know about the co-development partner. Wild Cheap. I knew about double jack.

spk_0 But this is who remember creature did that funding with side quest? This was their big,

spk_0 big recipient of that. Could you imagine if this one never got sad? Huge props of creatures

spk_0 for picking this game because like this is the one graphics in the original demo. When you turn

spk_0 and you look at your little orchestra helper, it doesn't even you pick up a pen or something like

spk_0 that and you're like, no way. Dude, I bought mysterones on Amazon. I have two mysterones just because

spk_0 of this game. Just for when you play it. They sit right next to my friggin. That's awesome. Yeah,

spk_0 I had no shame in it. I'm like, why why wouldn't I? I'm leaving this episode wanting to play

spk_0 unplugged because of our conversation before air. And now myster I want to hop into tonight.

spk_0 One pug to be a great one this stream. That what? I'm a roughathon. I think it was a

spk_0 four-minute song. I think it was a heavily switched off. That could come out today and be like a

spk_0 really big reception. It was a had a time. Saddest part about it. Just the lack of support.

spk_0 It's just exist to exist. They could have kept milking DLC packs on that all day. He was good at

spk_0 licensing too. Yeah. I think he had something going. I think he got a new job or something and it's

spk_0 just on the back right now. Why can't you buy like why don't they have like an eBay for games?

spk_0 That's an IP they should continue. A little bug. I'm sorry. I just lose on my mind. There's a fly.

spk_0 I keep remember the time with our fan right in front of my eyes with our other mics. They heard the

spk_0 foot. Yeah. Dude, do you hear that? Like what might all the yetis? Yeah. When we had two yetis,

spk_0 I remember one time I often opened up a bag of chips in the kitchen way under the time of the room.

spk_0 I was like, dude, we need new mics. That was the same day you would come in talking about like,

spk_0 you know about the Shura some 7B? You know what? I used to it. We got our first interview book.

spk_0 Right? I'm like, oh, it was like it was some real difficulty with the technology we had which was

spk_0 basically a little smaller than a card table and two yetis to have someone call in and pull it off.

spk_0 It was like not going to work. We're like, we're going to get better.

spk_0 Best investment I think we ever made was the Shura mic. Yeah.

spk_0 Had me a Michael Jackson. Yeah, recorded thriller.

spk_0 Like if it can handle Michael Jackson's like loud ass vocal range.

spk_0 Touch me. It's a Maestro 5. Five new songs. Oh, that's huge.

spk_0 For free. I dig Michael. That's huge. I would let him touch me.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Buse. Good stuff from Maestro Double Jack creature and what was the name of the other studio?

spk_0 Oh, wild sheep. Yeah, that's a great name. These are most studio names all have it's like

spk_0 some studio names have more badass names than their game. It's like, man, if your game was half as good

spk_0 as you name. I love a good studio name. I know that sounds stupid, but I do always respect it.

spk_0 So this next one from a studio we love shell games.

spk_0 Shoel makers of I expect you to die. Where is the fourth among us 3D as well as other great games?

spk_0 Do you remember? I remember I expect you to die. Remember wanting a new one.

spk_0 I need to pull up the name of the game before the end of this article because it's

spk_0 this slipping my mind the cooking one where they take you through the cooking lessons through

spk_0 the different cultures. Oh my god, that was a great game. That was such a good game.

spk_0 I'll get the name I'm mixing it up with targo. I know. Remember targo series. I remember.

spk_0 Okay. That was dude targo drops bomb. They just did some other shit too. I think I'll get

spk_0 the name of the game before the end of this. I promise, but that was a great game as far as

spk_0 like the authenticity of there's like cooking tails or something like that. No, we own it too.

spk_0 Okay, you know, I'm on their website. I'll just pull it up. I'll find it in just a second

spk_0 because it was too good. Oh, silence layer was great as well. So it was a loss for recipes.

spk_0 Yeah, that was I loved loss recipes not big on replay ability. No, but a great experience.

spk_0 And you can really actually make their recipes to a great game, but shell games. They announced

spk_0 their next game, which is getting a free demo later this month called project freefall.

spk_0 Curious if that's going to be the final name or if that's like just a project name, but if that's

spk_0 what they're releasing the demo as I'm guessing that's what's sticking project free fall.

spk_0 It's going to be a free to play game launching an early access supporting four to eight player

spk_0 online matches. And you fight over the last remaining parachute while gradually plummeting

spk_0 and using various tools to knock out the competition as you free fall. That actually sounds really

spk_0 fun. I'm definitely excited to check this one out. This one had potential the first time I heard

spk_0 about it. At first, I was like, Hey, and I'm like, you know what? You talk about time being of the

spk_0 essence. It's going to be flat screen and VR with cross place support between the two supported.

spk_0 So VR players can play against flat screen players as well. And the demo is going to launch during

spk_0 Steam's next fest on October 13th. The quest demo is going to obviously be VR. However, the PC demo

spk_0 is going to be flat screen only. I'm expecting the full launch will have VR support on the PC.

spk_0 But again, the cross platform multiplayer support between PC and VR players will function as well.

spk_0 There's also going to be a in-game store since it's a free to play game. They do have to make

spk_0 money somehow, right? The game store is going to have additional skins. There's going to be a tag

spk_0 mode for game play in the game and then different selectable divers as well too. So cool stuff.

spk_0 Free demo coming on October 13th. And then later this year is going to launch an early access on

spk_0 Quest, Steam and Epic game stores with VR and flat screen support. So cool stuff.

spk_0 Speaking of cool stuff, when everything we're talking about is actually some pretty cool stuff.

spk_0 That kind of a shadow drop last week because I'm not recalling talking about it week after week.

spk_0 With a name like this, it's kind of surprising.

spk_0 Real risky. But whatever, it's out 1499, I believe was the price I saw before my browser said,

spk_0 you're not going to look at it anymore. Sherlock Holmes, the master detective in VR. And I'll

spk_0 tell you, there's a ton of Sherlock Holmes flat screen for every freaking platform.

spk_0 Even a couple VR. This one, yeah. This one dropped out dropped in last week for the Quest 3,

spk_0 Quest 3s 3d environments. I'll plagiarize right out of the article from our friend Henry Stockdale

spk_0 from upload VR. Who we you're going to don the role of Sir Arthur Conan. I'm not real familiar with

spk_0 Sherlock Holmes. I know if that's like an assistant character. So I apologize. Sir Arthur Conan,

spk_0 I'd love to be deemed a sir though. Doyle's famous fictional detective. So yes, if you're

spk_0 familiar with the series, I'm thinking he's somebody tasked with unraveling a conspiracy behind

spk_0 a recent series of murders. Not surprised by this. It's up to Holmes to expose a secret society

spk_0 operating in the shadows. It seems pretty Sherlock Holmesy. You're going to have to figure it. I own

spk_0 one for Xbox and I've never finished it. I actually think it I hit a wall with some difficulty.

spk_0 I don't like shit. I don't you know, and I just lost interest. Whatever. But I'm down to try it.

spk_0 I think it's a little risky to be throwing shadow releases. Sherlock Holmes is a strong

spk_0 engine because it's early access. But I'm with you. It's Sherlock Holmes. You got to promote that.

spk_0 Yeah. This would have been one I probably would have like, unless there were some issues. They

spk_0 were like, we best wait a little on this. Roll it on the Rattalk VR gaming showcase in December.

spk_0 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you should have held it a month with the frick. No, I do it. I mean,

spk_0 the price isn't bad. Actually, I think the price was a little lower than I thought it would be

spk_0 for Sherlock Holmes. I've seen like Sherlock Holmes, Agatha Christie, those names, command a little

spk_0 bit of extra monies. I understandably. Yeah, licensing. But apparently Sherlock Holmes is

spk_0 not very expensive. Where's that open domain now? Oh, I don't know. I imagine it's a paid license

spk_0 at this point because usually I think there's a copyright like 75 years from the last release.

spk_0 Because when the poo thing is open domain now. Really? Yeah. That's why they were they were able to

spk_0 within reason, even if something's open, you still can't, you can't like do porn with it.

spk_0 You know, but they did that when the poo horror movie. And it was a very fine line. They were

spk_0 walking between crossing the line. But yeah, because I'm a big Bob Dylan fan. I know it's a lot

spk_0 time 75 years from the last time they made an iteration of it. So what like Bob Dylan's

spk_0 when he still owned his songs up until a couple years ago, they would like do a shadow drop

spk_0 of songs, but only sell 100 copies of the album. So like nobody was really not many people

spk_0 even going to get it, but it renewed the 75 year copyright cycle. I think through original

spk_0 Mickey Mouse too. You can use some of them. Yeah, you can use steamboat Willie. Yeah, that's a

spk_0 not Mickey Mouse. Yeah. Well, steamboat Willie's Mickey Mouse. But a lot of times,

spk_0 there's a different name Disney's been trying to do the same thing too. Well,

spk_0 they do really small like animations featuring a character. So it renews the 75 year cycle on it.

spk_0 Good luck. Yeah, especially to do. Do you can't do anything in today's day and age?

spk_0 Hey, I just everywhere. I like dude. I've got honestly like so many videos. I don't trust anymore.

spk_0 Like get that out. That's not then some old videos that I thought were real. I'm thinking we're

spk_0 early renditions of AI out in wild. I'm like, yeah, I don't think that was real at all.

spk_0 Crazy. Got you debate and ever got your doubt in everything. Right. Making me wonder. Second

spk_0 guess shit. But you know what? I'm not second guessing. The fact that Sherlock Holmes,

spk_0 the master detective VR decided to just slide into the store thinking that it's an easy process

spk_0 to find shit that's new in the store without knowing about it. But God bless you for your attempt.

spk_0 If the developers hear this, I wouldn't be mad if it slid on in Shadow Style into my library,

spk_0 if you're there for me to check it out. So as always before we get through the rest of the news,

spk_0 it's got a 3.8. I mean, for early access, here's the struggle with puzzle games.

spk_0 Here's those struggle with puzzle games. You have one bug. It's a big issue. Like you have a

spk_0 bug in a shooting game. It's a little annoying. You can't have bugs and puzzle games by any means.

spk_0 So it all has to function perfectly. No, no locomotion support point and click to help.

spk_0 That's not good. The guy said though that it looks so good. He'll stick with it.

spk_0 But that shows you if they launched with it. I mean, that person gave him a four star review.

spk_0 That's an easy five star review with just some basic locomotion.

spk_0 Snap turn and teleport should be an option, but not the only option.

spk_0 See, here's the thing. If you want to drop early access, that's fine, but you gotta have locomotion

spk_0 options. Like that's an essential. So as always, huge thank you to our Patreon supporters

spk_0 on our on air shout out to your as well as thank you to the listener, you who tunes in episode after

spk_0 episode or even just the occasional one when you decide to, but huge thank you to our Patreon

spk_0 supporters that help us keep the lights on like we were hopefully saying at the start. Huge thank

spk_0 you to a Sam Amelia Carson, a sport moor, who I did see load games teasing some stuff on LinkedIn

spk_0 with hiring people and stuff and you really only hire people if things were coming, you know.

spk_0 So a Sam Amelia Carson, a sport moor, Jake, crispy shoes, Tom and Chris. So huge thank you to all

spk_0 you all for your continued support week after week month after month helping us keep the lights on.

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spk_0 on the meta quest store to save 10% stay tuned for the roughathon on Saturday, November 1st,

spk_0 12 hour stream maybe more depending on how things go stay tuned for the rough talk VR gaming

spk_0 showcase. We got a whole bunch of stuff in the works. The showcase on December 13th. And now that

spk_0 that mouthful is done. It's funny to say mouthful is we're talking about games earlier called rager,

spk_0 but continuing on to the news. Well a game that I loved on the meta quest and I'm so excited to see

spk_0 steam VR. I'm actually surprised it wasn't on steam VR yet. Homeworld vast. It is a VR adaptation

spk_0 of the homeworld series, which I loved homeworld. It was great and great on the meta quest.

spk_0 It's going to be launching on steam VR later this month on October 23rd with enhanced visuals as

spk_0 well as some other additional content as well. So stay tuned for that. It's a great game if you love

spk_0 real-time strategy games. I still think that that's an underserved market in the VR world. The

spk_0 steam VR is going to have new challenge levels as well into it. And like I said, some visual

spk_0 enhancement. I believe those challenge levels are going to be coming to the meta quest as well.

spk_0 So if you're a fan of the homeworld series, there's VR, there's MR. Like I think it's a great

spk_0 real-time strategy game in VR. And I'm so excited to see it out for the PC VR crowd. And to be

spk_0 honest with you, I kind of already assumed it was out at the PC VR crowd when it came out on the quest.

spk_0 And if you request standalone user, like I primarily am, do have PC VR as well.

spk_0 Play my PC VR a lot, but I would consider myself primarily a standalone VR user.

spk_0 Check it out. It's a great real-time strategy game if you're having a huge fan of it.

spk_0 Fricking sweet. Never a dull moment in the news, huh?

spk_0 Nope. Speaking of never dull moment, this is kind of an interesting one because it's a very

spk_0 gatekeeper thing going on here. So after a four-year dominance of Quest 2 being used on Steam,

spk_0 that's like the number one used VR headset on Steam. Yeah, as opposed to, I don't know what.

spk_0 Valve Index, Windows, Macchallion, 3S has taken the lead. But not just that, dude. It's like that we

spk_0 knew would probably happen organically as more threes replace the twos, but they provided a full

spk_0 spreadsheet of all the others. Not as big percentages with some of the other headsets as I would

spk_0 have thought for Steam with how vocal the community can be. You get what I'm saying though?

spk_0 Yeah, statistically the most quest headsets, if you add up how much are Quest 3s and how much are

spk_0 Quest 2s, but there can be overlap there. Yeah, just to me. Like you'd be the same users using

spk_0 Quest 3s and Quest 2s. Still account though. Dude, it counts for over 50% of the PC VR headsets on

spk_0 Steam. Yeah. So it's like it's just weird because you know what I'm saying there, it can be.

spk_0 Yeah, you would think it would be indexes and HTC headsets. I thought the index was going to be

spk_0 more than 13%. That's crazy. There's a thing that like, dude, a lot of 1.9% Quest 1. A lot of

spk_0 Quest users aren't on social media, passionately screaming about their Quest usage. Like you see from

spk_0 PC VR users and you see from PSVR 2 users. But I mean, any game that's launching on all platforms

spk_0 minus some rare exceptions. Like Quest is going to be 60 to 80% of their total sales.

spk_0 Doesn't matter how loud the audience is around the others. Like when you talk about who's

spk_0 actually selling the games, like the Quest store outsells vastly. Same with the headsets clearly,

spk_0 even with PC VR usage. You know what the reason? I mean, dude, it comes down to affordability.

spk_0 Yeah. Just looking at looking at what you're up against, it's like, if you're more than $500,

spk_0 you're not going to sell as much as a headset that is $500, especially Quest 3 is a damn good headset.

spk_0 And dude, look at others sold pretty much as much as freaking Pico HTC. HTC headset is 5%.

spk_0 That's crazy. Pico headsets 4.7%. And others, 4.3. That's all the rest. That's crazy.

spk_0 Dude, I really would have thought Valve would have been.

spk_0 Rift headsets still outperform HTC and Pico headsets on Steam.

spk_0 We have to put Quest Pro.

spk_0 Yeah. The Quest Pro really did. You know what? I think there is a market for that type of headset

spk_0 with premium users. I just don't think it was. Now that they've visioned pros come out.

spk_0 There was just an Apple thing, dude. That's all that was.

spk_0 There was nothing more than. They dropped their price to $9.99. But remember, they originally launched

spk_0 at $14.99. That was a mistake. If they launched at $9.99.

spk_0 We know people who bought it at $14.

spk_0 I think that if they came out with a Quest 3 Pro, there might be a market for that at $9.99

spk_0 of people that want face tracking, they want eye tracking, they want even more processing power.

spk_0 There's a market for it. But the vision pro didn't exist yet.

spk_0 I think one of these others will.

spk_0 The bit that.

spk_0 The vision pro didn't exist yet when the Quest Pro came out.

spk_0 So the Quest Pro for $9.99 seems a lot less

spk_0 egregious these days. Having a headset for $3,500 on the market.

spk_0 I just don't see the mass occurred for their price. I think that there's a market for.

spk_0 If you're putting everything into the, I mean, it's not for gaming, right?

spk_0 What? The Quest Pro? Theoretically.

spk_0 There it is. Well, I mean, yeah, but just like Apple, the Quest Pro and the Quest Pro was the

spk_0 originator of mixed reality gaming.

spk_0 There was a first headset with color pass through in the Quest Pro.

spk_0 I don't feel like they were pushing it to me as a gamer.

spk_0 No, they were putting it to me.

spk_0 Yeah, what I'm saying.

spk_0 Well, I feel like.

spk_0 And now we've got, we've got HUD glasses that are far exceeding my expectations out of the gate.

spk_0 Here's my vision. I think that's the room for a Quest 3S with reduced,

spk_0 like, reduced lenders for $2.99. There's obviously a market for that, right?

spk_0 It's selling good. Quest 3, you're standard. That's the me and use, like,

spk_0 we want really good gaming. Maybe we can't afford a $1,500 headset.

spk_0 Yeah, but I don't want my machine to be cost more because of your upper and failure.

spk_0 How would it cost more?

spk_0 Because you're going to make a headset better than a 3 for a market that's like

spk_0 ridiculously small. The Quest 2 was $2.99. And they had a Quest 2 Pro.

spk_0 I'm just saying, man. Quest Pro technically.

spk_0 I would get so bad they got to, like,

spk_0 I would get with a Quest 1.

spk_0 I get that, but I don't see how much.

spk_0 I don't see how that would make a Quest 3 cost more.

spk_0 I think that there's a market for a $2.99 headset in a Quest line.

spk_0 You've got the 3S for $2.99. You've got the $3 for $4.99.

spk_0 Fuck it. Drop a $1,000, like, wicked high-end one.

spk_0 They are. It's called fucking glasses. Am I wrong?

spk_0 Yeah, because a Quest head says,

spk_0 I would rather HUD glasses over Quest 3 Pro.

spk_0 I think that there's a market for these people.

spk_0 I think that they not waste the money.

spk_0 I think there's a market for that.

spk_0 They obviously didn't do well with the Quest.

spk_0 Oh, they definitely lost the money on the Quest Pro.

spk_0 So I think who's going to eat that cost at the end of the day?

spk_0 I think if they did that these days,

spk_0 it would sell better.

spk_0 I think that people massacred it because a Vision Pro wasn't on the market yet.

spk_0 And Meta was so evil for selling a headset for more than $1,000.

spk_0 Slap a 4 on it and give it to me then.

spk_0 Don't give me better technology than what you're giving me on day 1.

spk_0 I'm just, look, the reality is,

spk_0 give me worst technology as an alternative after day 1.

spk_0 But don't come out of the gate after I spend 700 bucks and go,

spk_0 hey, for next to three, we'll sell you this in a month.

spk_0 But you didn't spend 700.

spk_0 You spent 500 bucks.

spk_0 No, no, we'd take it.

spk_0 But let's be real too.

spk_0 It's got 6.25% on it.

spk_0 It's possible.

spk_0 I can't say this without a doubt.

spk_0 But I mean, they established the Pancake product supply line for the Quest Pro.

spk_0 And then we got that on the Quest 3.

spk_0 It's possible if they never made a Quest 3.

spk_0 I'm sorry, if they never made a Quest Pro,

spk_0 we might not have color pass through.

spk_0 I doubt it.

spk_0 And we might not have Pancake lenses.

spk_0 That would be like saying like the billions they pour into the research

spk_0 would never touch on that.

spk_0 But they had to make a commercial model to prove it.

spk_0 They literally established the supply line for Pancake lenses for the Quest Pro.

spk_0 And because the supply line already existed,

spk_0 they already established the connections with factories.

spk_0 That brought it to the Quest 3.

spk_0 It might not exist in the Quest 3 if not for that move.

spk_0 I think anything existing is just their willingness to save.

spk_0 This is what we're going to do.

spk_0 I just think that there's a scale.

spk_0 I think there's a market for it.

spk_0 I think I would love to see them do a Quest Pro.

spk_0 I'm going to cry if they come out with a Quest 2 Pro.

spk_0 No, a Quest Pro 2.

spk_0 Oh, God, please don't, guys.

spk_0 Please don't.

spk_0 If not going to sell as good as the 3S,

spk_0 the 3S will get you to sell the most.

spk_0 Someone's got to pay for all the manufacturing.

spk_0 Right?

spk_0 Who's paying for it?

spk_0 For all we know, they didn't even lose money on that.

spk_0 I mean, look, if they're selling for 1400,

spk_0 they made money off of those.

spk_0 Yeah, but look.

spk_0 Who's using it?

spk_0 But look, that's comparable to all of the other headsets.

spk_0 Our headsets did so good.

spk_0 We'll put it in the Quest 1.

spk_0 Because here's the thing, the HTC headsets.

spk_0 You can only use it on PCVR.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So everyone that bought it is part of that number.

spk_0 The Quest Pro, I know are you most of the people that bought it,

spk_0 never hooked it up to steam.

spk_0 Well, obviously 1.9.

spk_0 But I mean, like, yeah, so how many have you connected?

spk_0 I think they...

spk_0 Versus 60%.

spk_0 I'd be curious if they lost money on a Quest Pro.

spk_0 I'm going to say they didn't.

spk_0 I don't think it sold as good.

spk_0 I don't see it.

spk_0 I've made money, though.

spk_0 I don't think they lost money.

spk_0 When we talk to Sally...

spk_0 When we talk to Sally, they've got to go down to 1000,

spk_0 so you're already out 400 over expectation.

spk_0 When we talk to Sally, it's Bradley.

spk_0 He was selling us.

spk_0 There's no way it cost anywhere close to...

spk_0 The 14.

spk_0 Anywhere close.

spk_0 Correct.

spk_0 I don't think they lost money on it.

spk_0 All the marketing, dude.

spk_0 They didn't market that shit for anything.

spk_0 No, marketing many people have to do something.

spk_0 They did some minor marketing.

spk_0 Nothing huge.

spk_0 But...

spk_0 I think they made Bank off each one that sold.

spk_0 If I had the right to vote on, like,

spk_0 hey, we're going to do a Quest 4 line.

spk_0 We're going to do 4, 4s.

spk_0 What do you guys think of a Pro?

spk_0 I'd be like, no.

spk_0 I don't think it's a huge market.

spk_0 No, it's literally, like, 1%.

spk_0 I'm not going to cater my love for 1%.

spk_0 It's...

spk_0 They sold a lot more than shows up there, because in the show up there...

spk_0

spk_0 Overall, you have to connect it.

spk_0 Overall usage, I'm just looking at staining usage.

spk_0 You have to connect it.

spk_0 Like, people obviously aren't buying the pros for gaming.

spk_0 A 2.5 in the...

spk_0 In between to the next generation.

spk_0 I will argue the futures.

spk_0 I will argue Quest 3s, 3s, and 2s

spk_0 are definitely being bought for gaming.

spk_0 The Pro statistically does not look like it's a big

spk_0 purchase for gaming.

spk_0 Definitely not so much.

spk_0 But I think if you sold a Quest exactly how the Quest is...

spk_0 3 is that?

spk_0 Look at the percentage difference.

spk_0 The variance is just...

spk_0 Well, they stop selling it.

spk_0 You can't even buy a Pro anymore.

spk_0 So I think if...

spk_0 But Quest 1 is part of this.

spk_0 1.9%.

spk_0 I think if I wanted those either...

spk_0 I think if they sold a Quest 3 that had eye tracking and face tracking.

spk_0 For $9.99, there's a market for it.

spk_0 There's people that would buy it.

spk_0 I would wait for the 4 because I already know what it's going to have.

spk_0 There's no guarantee...

spk_0 He's not...

spk_0 No, no guarantee.

spk_0 There was face eye tracking in a Pro.

spk_0 It's not on the 3.

spk_0 I mean, if they want to piss away money and lose money,

spk_0 that's a fantastic way to do it.

spk_0 I don't think they lost money on a Pro.

spk_0 I don't know, dude.

spk_0 I don't think they lost money on a Pro.

spk_0 We'll never know.

spk_0 I'd love to hear people's opinions on that.

spk_0 I don't think they lost money on it.

spk_0 What would make you think that?

spk_0 How the fuck do companies...

spk_0 Most companies don't make shit on their techier ones, right?

spk_0 Like Xbox, Sony's, they take a...

spk_0 Fucking hard hit.

spk_0 You're going to tell me they came out of the game.

spk_0 I think most of the best features are...

spk_0 Lower their price 400.

spk_0 I'd love to have been there during that conversation, too.

spk_0 Where they're looking at an entire forecasted budget plan.

spk_0 I think they got really greedy with their pricing.

spk_0 And then when we got to take 400 right off the top,

spk_0 regardless of greed or necessity,

spk_0 the minute you did that per unit,

spk_0 your unit cost just lost 400.

spk_0 I want to be surprised if that should only cost

spk_0 some like 5,600 to manufacture.

spk_0 I don't think they lost money on the Quest Pro.

spk_0 I think that they way oversold the price of it.

spk_0 Like way overpriced it in comparison to what it cost.

spk_0 And I don't think the Quest 3 would be anywhere as good as it is today

spk_0 without if the Quest Pro never existed.

spk_0 We wouldn't have pancake lenses.

spk_0 That's an opinion.

spk_0 That is purely speculation.

spk_0 I get it.

spk_0 Only again, because you know,

spk_0 and I know that they have a headset that performs one function,

spk_0 one function only.

spk_0 And regardless of even that working,

spk_0 they decide what they're going to put into the next.

spk_0 But I can say what is a fact,

spk_0 in that they established the pancake line

spk_0 for the Quest Pro.

spk_0 Okay. And you're saying they couldn't have done that without

spk_0 ever doing the pro.

spk_0 I don't think that they would have done it for it.

spk_0 They couldn't have said we're going to make a 3

spk_0 and we want pancake lenses.

spk_0 I don't think that they would have established

spk_0 the whole product line for a 499 headset.

spk_0 No.

spk_0 Why not?

spk_0 They're pretty big customer, dude.

spk_0 I know.

spk_0 People, you do amazing things when someone calls you and said,

spk_0 I need 12 million of something.

spk_0 I think the idea of selling it for 999, 1499,

spk_0 1299.

spk_0 They're estimating them.

spk_0 I think that that's what brought the pancake lens.

spk_0 I don't think that we would have pancake lenses

spk_0 on the Quest 3 if there was no Quest Pro.

spk_0 And I think not having a Quest Pro 2

spk_0 is going to lessen the quality of a Quest 4.

spk_0 And I also think

spk_0 that your expectation,

spk_0 knowing that there is no Quest 3 Pro

spk_0 is that the Quest 4 will have a lower expectation

spk_0 because there's not a Quest 3 Pro.

spk_0 Totally.

spk_0 Even though you know that they lose billions of dollars

spk_0 a year in new research and design.

spk_0 And none of that.

spk_0 None of that unless it's proven in a commercial sense

spk_0 is going to make its way into a headset.

spk_0 We don't actually know how much they lose on VR.

spk_0 Because of a supply.

spk_0 We know how much they lose on VR,

spk_0 AR, AI, all combined together.

spk_0 We don't know how much they actually lose on VR.

spk_0 No, I'm just talking research.

spk_0 I just got to be it.

spk_0 We know they're losing money on it.

spk_0 We don't know how much.

spk_0 But we agree they're losing money on it.

spk_0 Okay, that's a separate conversation though.

spk_0 I mean, I'm just, my point is that

spk_0 we're losing money here to research stuff

spk_0 that we're never going to make unless we make a commercial model

spk_0 for more money.

spk_0 My point is that there's aspects of the Quest 3

spk_0 that I don't think would exist in there

spk_0 if they never did the Pro.

spk_0 Being pancake lenses.

spk_0 That's sensor.

spk_0 There's really only one person in the whole world

spk_0 that can answer that.

spk_0 Mixed reality.

spk_0 I mean, Zuckerberg,

spk_0 you know, they're just spending.

spk_0 They've gone out, they've gone on record and said

spk_0 that the Quest Pro was quite a few things on record.

spk_0 And I finished my point though that they've said on record

spk_0 that the Quest Pro was what proved to them

spk_0 the value of mixed reality gaming.

spk_0 They might not have done,

spk_0 according to their own statements,

spk_0 might not have done mixed reality on the Quest 3

spk_0 if not for the Quest Pro proving it that it has a function.

spk_0 So I think that there's a missed mark

spk_0 in doing a Pro.

spk_0 Still doesn't.

spk_0 And I don't think that.

spk_0 Sell it to me.

spk_0 And I don't think that little sliver

spk_0 is any indication of what they sold for Quest Pro.

spk_0 I don't think because like most people buy in Quest Pro

spk_0 weren't buying Quest Pro to connect it to steam.

spk_0 I can buy one at Best Buy right now, right?

spk_0 A Quest Pro? No.

spk_0 Well, I can buy it too, can I?

spk_0 No.

spk_0 Those aren't for sale anymore.

spk_0 No, no, no Best Buy sitting on nobody.

spk_0 No, I can't say what each Best Buy across the whole country

spk_0 has for stock, but it's not.

spk_0 Just saying if it did well,

spk_0 I don't know why it's not being offered still.

spk_0 Like why they would have,

spk_0 because that was a fast discontinued due.

spk_0 Because it's a bad.

spk_0 It was a fast ride.

spk_0 It came out.

spk_0 Well, because it's a point.

spk_0 Apple did their thing.

spk_0 Zuckerberg went,

spk_0 ha ha ha, we've already done this.

spk_0 And then they knocked $400 off and then disappeared.

spk_0 I'm making up numbers,

spk_0 but I would wager that 90% of the people

spk_0 that bought a Quest Pro never connected it to a steam account.

spk_0 Different market.

spk_0 Totally different market.

spk_0 Yeah, it was in for gamers.

spk_0 Same reason that you don't see,

spk_0 you can use a place to make the argument that it is for gamers.

spk_0 Because it looks like mixed reality.

spk_0 No, I prove,

spk_0 I said it proved to them internally that there was a market for that.

spk_0 I didn't say it was for you.

spk_0 Although I won't lie, dude, if mixed reality never happened,

spk_0 I wouldn't miss it.

spk_0 Same with pancake lenses.

spk_0 You can't miss what you don't know.

spk_0 I think we'd be getting mixed reality in the sense of the glasses anyways.

spk_0 Maybe.

spk_0 And to me, the whole world virtual reality.

spk_0 I'm just going to say that like the word virtual reality

spk_0 to me never resonated in real reality.

spk_0 I'm not going to say it would sell anywhere close to a Quest 3.

spk_0 Main consumer headset.

spk_0 My point was that I think there's a market for it.

spk_0 I don't think there would be some people disagree with you.

spk_0 I don't think they would lose money doing a Pro.

spk_0 I think there's only one person that can really answer it.

spk_0 And other than that, it's just a million people

spk_0 could have a million opinions.

spk_0 Correct.

spk_0 I'm just saying my opinion.

spk_0 A million wrong answers.

spk_0 I think that there's a market for a Quest Pro headset.

spk_0 They keep saying it.

spk_0 I keep saying the opposite so we can move on.

spk_0 I'm not selling you and you're not selling me.

spk_0 I mean, I went into it from day one kind of like

spk_0 with the Pro line not thinking it was a viable thing

spk_0 and then it disappeared.

spk_0 So I'm not big into the let's do it again.

spk_0 Well, I mean, they delayed a Quest 4 headset.

spk_0 How they how they delay it.

spk_0 It was supposed to come out in 2026.

spk_0 They delayed it to 2027.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 So the Quest 3 sold great.

spk_0 Even though everybody with a 3 would say

spk_0 coming out with one that soon would have been real quick.

spk_0 That's what I say.

spk_0 Most people say the opposite.

spk_0 Most people that are vocal like we're screaming

spk_0 where's our headset?

spk_0 Like I didn't there was no part of me that it connect this year.

spk_0 That's expected to be in the extreme minority by saying that.

spk_0 Because I'm like, why would you most?

spk_0 Why would you want it that quick?

spk_0 Most of the VR content creators right now are going

spk_0 where's our Quest 4?

spk_0 And not even like flat screen games pull that shit anymore.

spk_0 There's people years.

spk_0 There's VR gamers.

spk_0 There's VR content creators making videos right now going.

spk_0 I'm questioning meta support in VR because there's no class for it.

spk_0 Yeah, but dude, they.

spk_0 There's a lot of hear me out.

spk_0 You just said all VR all Quest 3 users would say.

spk_0 It's not really the majority.

spk_0 The majority are saying where's I don't know.

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 Me and you are in the minority.

spk_0 I don't know the actual statistics.

spk_0 So I don't want to minority.

spk_0 I'll say minority or majority.

spk_0 I'll take a flat line with it.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Because I just don't know.

spk_0 I mean, I I've heard people like.

spk_0 Dude, meta does anything.

spk_0 There's some people that come.

spk_0 I'm just using your logic.

spk_0 You go, well, they killed the pro line.

spk_0 So it must not have so good.

spk_0 But the Quest 3 sold good and they deleted it here.

spk_0 There's a lot more complex decisions than just.

spk_0 There's a lot of good shit in the four.

spk_0 That's why I also think they're waiting for competitors.

spk_0 To do some stuff.

spk_0 And right justly so.

spk_0 Because I believe they can make decisions on a fly.

spk_0 And not having to commit.

spk_0 So it might be a smart move.

spk_0 We'll see.

spk_0 I'm a supporter of waiting on the quest for until 2027.

spk_0 But for a fact, it was delayed.

spk_0 And that's regardless of sales.

spk_0 So on more PC VR news, zero caliber two

spk_0 announced that it's PC VR remaster is launching next month with new changes

spk_0 in terms of gameplay and visuals.

spk_0 That means that cross-play quote-unquote isn't feasible with the quest version.

spk_0 Because it's going to be pretty much a completely enhanced version.

spk_0 And it's going to be launching on Quest and Steam on, I'm sorry.

spk_0 It's currently out on Quest.

spk_0 And it's going to be launching on Steam on October 30th.

spk_0 So really not far away this month.

spk_0 End of the month.

spk_0 It's launching on Steam.

spk_0 So cool stuff.

spk_0 Zero caliber two PC VR remaster.

spk_0 Dude, you're not tight.

spk_0 I think it's going to look amazing.

spk_0 It is out on Steam now as well, but the remaster version.

spk_0 Yeah, no, I'm launching on the 30th.

spk_0 Don't dangle a remaster and expect me to go in prior.

spk_0 I like that.

spk_0 Of we had a great time with it on the quest.

spk_0 Remember of B-Haptics that rumble?

spk_0 Oh, it was so good.

spk_0 Dude, I really enjoyed that game.

spk_0 Yeah, it was really good.

spk_0 So dimensional double shift.

spk_0 I think we talked about this three, three, four weeks ago

spk_0 that they were coming out with a new DLC called New Joyz.

spk_0 Price points on freaking points.

spk_0 It is coming out October 16th for $4.99.

spk_0 Oh my god, that's so cheap.

spk_0 And just like they did with Hexus.

spk_0 See what they did there, not Texas, but Hexus.

spk_0 If one person in your game owns it,

spk_0 everyone has access to it in your party.

spk_0 So walk about does that?

spk_0 But now I like the fact that this...

spk_0 Any content DLC, I feel like that's what you should do.

spk_0 If it's a multiplayer game, it's content.

spk_0 I'm shocked with DLCs that they'll do it.

spk_0 I like the thought of, in concept of like,

spk_0 you know, hey, my friend doesn't own the game,

spk_0 but I know they'd have fun with it.

spk_0 I'm not asking him to buy it.

spk_0 I just want to play with them.

spk_0 So it's cool.

spk_0 But when they're doing it with like new DLCs...

spk_0 It's gangster.

spk_0 Yeah, that's a little extra special.

spk_0 But walk about doesn't smart,

spk_0 where your score doesn't save.

spk_0 And that's always been enough from...

spk_0 And you can't find the balls.

spk_0 Yeah, I was going to say you are, you know,

spk_0 so you have to put the gas...

spk_0 You're the gas.

spk_0 You could find the balls as the host.

spk_0 I feel like you can't just give the gas the full access

spk_0 to it by their friend only.

spk_0 Like, you've got to restrict them.

spk_0 No high score saving and stuff like that, you know?

spk_0 The hot funny Henry did this article.

spk_0 And he's talking about how he's never been to New Jersey.

spk_0 Oh, because he's in...

spk_0 The thing Uncle Vinnie has.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 He's never been to New Jersey.

spk_0 I'm actually shocked because I'd assume he's been to New York City.

spk_0 It's like, literally right there.

spk_0 But this is their third one.

spk_0 They had Triaddle.

spk_0 You can see the play on Seattle.

spk_0 Hexus, which we all know is Texas,

spk_0 which we got to see that was at it.

spk_0 Pax.

spk_0 It was.

spk_0 Pax East.

spk_0 They had Hexus.

spk_0 We had some Hexus stickers and stuff.

spk_0 Yeah, man.

spk_0 They had people trying it too.

spk_0 This is a...

spk_0 We played this with not this DLC,

spk_0 but we played Dimensional Doubleships in Germany with the CEO.

spk_0 Yeah, the head out.

spk_0 I'm sorry, the CEO.

spk_0 The CEO.

spk_0 Not CEO, he's CEO.

spk_0 So what are they saying here in quotes?

spk_0 New Joyzee invites players to clock back in for chaos.

spk_0 So you clock it in for work folks.

spk_0 At a busted boardwalk full of greasy diners,

spk_0 greasier garages and muscle cars with more attitude than horsepower.

spk_0 Fair enough.

spk_0 So if you haven't played it, it's a game where you're going to play with like four people,

spk_0 which includes yourself, you're each going to have tasks.

spk_0 And I'll tell you what, man, I'm not the guy to play this game with.

spk_0 I get so...

spk_0 Forget your dependent a lot on your players kind of helping you with certain shit.

spk_0 And it's one of those you might say, hey, do you have this,

spk_0 or can I get this and you're moving levers and you're doing shit or you're plugging shit in

spk_0 because there was some puzzle-esque aspect and I just fucking...

spk_0 Well, I think that you were under pressure because the CEO was right there too.

spk_0 And I think we would do better just me and you.

spk_0 Dude, it was pretty tight.

spk_0 Well, yeah, we had the CEO's there in-game.

spk_0 I think one of the developers made the freaking game.

spk_0 No pressure, no pressure.

spk_0 And me and you were...

spk_0 And of course, the first time we were ever flown, I'm like,

spk_0 and even finding where the place was was amazing.

spk_0 It's like Area 51 shit just to get into it.

spk_0 We got a hot back in just me and you.

spk_0 I think you'll do a lot better without the CEO or right next to you.

spk_0 And I think a lot of your shit was for him too.

spk_0 Oh, dude, I, there was one point.

spk_0 I think I was holding like a cable in my hand and I'm just like,

spk_0 I'm just not doing anything and I'm watching everybody hustle in and move in and I'm like,

spk_0 I am so fucking that great corporate team building game though, right?

spk_0 Oh, dude.

spk_0 Like, you have to be in a team float against one.

spk_0 And, and no, yes, the stress of having the CEO was real,

spk_0 but he's such a nice human being.

spk_0 It's not like he was like,

spk_0 I didn't understand how to do it.

spk_0 Fucking idiot.

spk_0 You know, no, he was like,

spk_0 I think that was just the youth.

spk_0 Yeah, it was just me.

spk_0 It's like the dudes are cool, dude.

spk_0 Humble to even be trying a game that was like,

spk_0 not out on the market.

spk_0 You know, it's like, hey, you getting a demo of this potential with this one, dude.

spk_0 As they keep pumping out these DLCs.

spk_0 I just, I love that they're having just fun with everything.

spk_0 Hexis, triaddle, new joeysy.

spk_0 Imagine Chicago and you're a fried chicken.

spk_0 Fried chicken joint or something?

spk_0 Check out your pizza.

spk_0 Dude, there's so much you could do, right?

spk_0 Yeah, go ahead.

spk_0 The bears.

spk_0 Pizzlevania.

spk_0 Oh, man.

spk_0 Dude, no, there's a,

spk_0 what if they have every state mapped out with like a punk?

spk_0 I would go with a meatball.

spk_0 Meat bolpless.

spk_0 Meatisota.

spk_0 Oh, damn.

spk_0 Dude, Massachusetts.

spk_0 It's be.

spk_0 Acetusits.

spk_0 Dude, I was trying to think of mass juices or Boston,

spk_0 but they've been doing states, not cities.

spk_0 New joeysy.

spk_0 Uh, what would we do for Massachusetts?

spk_0 I cannot be trusted with this new jersey down low, dude.

spk_0 I'm not the guy.

spk_0 Maybe there's something with mashed potatoes for Massachusetts.

spk_0 Yeah, gross.

spk_0 Mashed patuchits.

spk_0 Cranberries.

spk_0 Cranberries and pilgrims.

spk_0 No, dude, you got to play this.

spk_0 I feel like this is like, this is tailor made for the ruffathon.

spk_0 I feel like it'll get us canceled.

spk_0 I, you know,

spk_0 dude, there's times we do lives and I'll see people be like,

spk_0 oh, I'm going to go Vinnie.

spk_0 I'm like, you don't know who you're in leasing.

spk_0 Not without netted button.

spk_0 It's just not the little sensor button.

spk_0 We have a sensor button.

spk_0 No, but we need a delay.

spk_0 We need like that WWE 15 second.

spk_0 So you can tell the production team like,

spk_0 son bad's going to come up.

spk_0 Nip slip.

spk_0 Have you ever, I love online people when someone starts costing

spk_0 and they try to censor it, but they're saying they just keep missing.

spk_0 They off.

spk_0 They censor all the clean words.

spk_0 And then they unmute it and it just like,

spk_0 that's Uncle Vinnie right there.

spk_0 Or when instead of just doing the one long sensor,

spk_0 it's just, it's like they're doing more code because I just keep press.

spk_0 BBB.

spk_0 If we ever want to lose friends,

spk_0 we could like go to do someone someone else's podcast as me and you.

spk_0 And you just go on as Uncle Vinnie.

spk_0 Not tell them anything in advance.

spk_0 If it was non video, I would.

spk_0 If we didn't do video, I would almost actually,

spk_0 he was a third party in the room.

spk_0 We had talked about that a while ago of having a leaker.

spk_0 And we would make up rumors.

spk_0 We never end up doing this silly,

spk_0 but we're like, we should have like a rumor mill.

spk_0 And it's like it's going to be a phone call to you thing.

spk_0 Yep.

spk_0 From a phone booth.

spk_0 Uncle Vinnie would be a great leaker.

spk_0 That's what the fucking street.

spk_0 Fucking outside and fun of that guys house right now.

spk_0 Talk about the new head say he's used to.

spk_0 I'm in Seattle at the valve headquarters, you know.

spk_0 Start leaking Bradley.

spk_0 Only following Bradley.

spk_0 Oh, shit.

spk_0 That's funny.

spk_0 Yeah, no Vinnie can't be trusted.

spk_0 Unlike TV.

spk_0 He just can't.

spk_0 I just do it.

spk_0 And because of that ad read,

spk_0 it didn't take much for that to come out.

spk_0 So we should both do the rest of these.

spk_0 Yeah, but I'm new.

spk_0 Joysy.

spk_0 I'm excited.

spk_0 Joysy.

spk_0 We got to check it out soon.

spk_0 She's dimensional.

spk_0 Dozele's fucking shift.

spk_0 This next one I'm excited for.

spk_0 But it's also a tough seldom because I feel like I'm covered with golf games in VR

spk_0 between walk about mini golf and golf plus sounds like golf.

spk_0 He's going on.

spk_0 It's hard to get a third one in me, but this one sounds fun.

spk_0 House of golf VR.

spk_0 Let's you create your own mini golf courses in an MR environment on the

spk_0 meta quest.

spk_0 That's a cool concept.

spk_0 You know, making your own golf courses.

spk_0 There was previous games in the house of golf series, but they were all

spk_0 flat screen.

spk_0 This is the first VR version one.

spk_0 Single player.

spk_0 I'm assuming.

spk_0 I will check and I will confirm that in just a moment.

spk_0 Any golf game that single player only.

spk_0 I'm just trying to think if you're making it in your space.

spk_0 That's true.

spk_0 How can I come to your space and invite it if we don't have equal space sizes?

spk_0 Well, there is going to be fully immersive VR environments as well.

spk_0 It's just MR is the main creation.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 But it sounds like you can create a movie or two because the developer starlight games

spk_0 said there's going to be interactive puzzles in the game.

spk_0 That's interesting.

spk_0 Interactive puzzles in a golf game and competitive championships.

spk_0 And then there's also going to be hidden mystery boxes hidden all around the environment.

spk_0 Second, Tane.

spk_0 Rare golf balls.

spk_0 So taking the lost golf element.

spk_0 Lost golf ball element a little bit from long about.

spk_0 But I'm ahead carefully there.

spk_0 Next thing you know, we're going to have some puddles for getting under a little fox on,

spk_0 you know.

spk_0 The less one of them's homage to walk about, you better cut it out.

spk_0 Look, interactive puzzles.

spk_0 One could argue a fox hunt is interactive puzzle.

spk_0 And then hidden boxes throughout that contain lost golf balls, you know,

spk_0 they're walking a fine line for sure.

spk_0 But I'll check this one out.

spk_0 It launches on October 30th on Metaclast.

spk_0 I'm always up for trying new shit anyway.

spk_0 So I just, I'm kind of with the others.

spk_0 Walking a fine line.

spk_0 It's tough to break into the golf market for me between those two games.

spk_0 We got our love.

spk_0 That's what the, yeah.

spk_0 Both are from Austin.

spk_0 How weird.

spk_0 Hey, you think it's a shadow company?

spk_0 Look through the details.

spk_0 Let me see where Starlight games is from Liverpool.

spk_0 I meant for Austin, we have a golf plus and walk about both out of.

spk_0 Oh, okay.

spk_0 These guys are from Liverpool.

spk_0 That would have just been, that would have been way too long.

spk_0 I know Lucas Martell moved to Liverpool, you know.

spk_0 Great.

spk_0 That's my summer one.

spk_0 It's me summer homemade.

spk_0 Go out there do the Aussie thing.

spk_0 We actually talked about this game probably about a month ago,

spk_0 called Birdwatching Simulator, Birdseed VR.

spk_0 It is out in the wild folks early access.

spk_0 It's developed by, do you remember the name of this company?

spk_0 Buffalo Buffalo.

spk_0 How can you forget that one?

spk_0 It's a home run.

spk_0 Dude, I have the mental picture too.

spk_0 You were excited for this one too.

spk_0 We got a game USA sap.

spk_0 First time I've seen, I think, in the articles, the word cartoon used for the graphic.

spk_0 About mini golf graphics though, right?

spk_0 Yeah, cartoon style graphics.

spk_0 It's, it's, it's a non-stressful, peaceful game.

spk_0 I've actually,

spk_0 may or may not have read on people who have tried it.

spk_0 You've been hyped since the first time.

spk_0 Yeah, I've been pretty hyped.

spk_0 I think one of the people I read who may have tried it

spk_0 didn't start off with feeling the greatest, but then it caught on.

spk_0 So you put thing, so I was like, oh, that's kind of cool.

spk_0 You swayed someone.

spk_0 Who, because let's be honest, it's Birdwatching, dude.

spk_0 It's not everyone's jam, right?

spk_0 It's like hiking.

spk_0 Mm-hmm.

spk_0 You know, although I have a good joke about hiking.

spk_0 Uh-oh.

spk_0 Is it like an Uncle Vinny joke?

spk_0 No, it's actually a clean one.

spk_0 Part of the shit I was working on, but I'll put it in a wild,

spk_0 and someone can just fucking steal it, I'm sure,

spk_0 because it's really that good of a pretence baseline.

spk_0 But it's on the sense of like, you ever redating profiles.

spk_0 Everyone says they love movies, cuddling, walks in the woods.

spk_0 But yet every time I walk in the woods, I don't ever see anybody.

spk_0 When in theory, that should be the one place you should go.

spk_0 And it should be armed to arm men and women

spk_0 looking to fucking hook up, because they all love going into what?

spk_0 Not true.

spk_0 And then you wonder why when you hook up on a date,

spk_0 it just doesn't work out in the long room, because none of you are honest

spk_0 on the fucking gaggo.

spk_0 So that's the pretence for the, the leading.

spk_0 But so it's Birdwatching.

spk_0 And again, I'm excited for it.

spk_0 I actually have it in my house, all the birds in the country.

spk_0 It's a book, and I have all the birds for New England.

spk_0 So like, I'm not saying I study it and I go into the woods.

spk_0 I'm like, oh, look, it's the Dittmouse.

spk_0 It's just cool to know what your local birds and wildlife is.

spk_0 So if this can bring a little bit of education,

spk_0 wink, wink, get you outdoors.

spk_0 But maybe spark an interest of like, holy shit, I didn't know that bird.

spk_0 I mean, I see you might see the bird to say, you might learn about a bird in the game

spk_0 and fucking one day see it flying around and be like, dude, that's the cardinal.

spk_0 You start making those connections.

spk_0 Yeah, it might trigger something for someone to go.

spk_0 I didn't know birdwatching to be this fun.

spk_0 It sounds crazy to say, but I it can be a,

spk_0 I'm gonna get a mushroom hunting game, mushroom forging game.

spk_0 The disclaimer that would come with that.

spk_0 Yeah, like, do not fucking eat random mushrooms, bro.

spk_0 You will die.

spk_0 Even if you think you know what it is.

spk_0 Alright, kids, we're gonna go search for amonitas today.

spk_0 There's so many mushrooms that look identical.

spk_0 But aren't like the difference of death.

spk_0 Have you heard the people who use the animal theory?

spk_0 Well, if an animal eats it, I can eat it.

spk_0 Like, you can also fucking die because they can eat a lot of shit you can eat.

spk_0 Yeah, we have different digestive systems, like things that work like that.

spk_0 And yeah, sometimes like ones that might look like the chicken of the woods or whatever

spk_0 aren't always chicken of the woods, you know what I mean?

spk_0 And our state next to us, Connecticut, we're doing a show out there.

spk_0 Border health was like real, real strict.

spk_0 We got through fine.

spk_0 Everything was good.

spk_0 We were like, wow, you guys are overly,

spk_0 they go, you have no idea what's been going on.

spk_0 They go, what?

spk_0 They're like restaurants are buying mushrooms.

spk_0 From like, there's a lot of people that go foraging, especially in our area.

spk_0 And they're like,

spk_0 they have to go through a process.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 You can't be guaranteed.

spk_0 But the prices are so good.

spk_0 It's like a backdoor deal.

spk_0 Like buying a cow that fell off the truck.

spk_0 And they're like, it's become an issue with restaurants because they want

spk_0 they want mushrooms.

spk_0 They just don't want to pay top dollar for it.

spk_0 Well, again, like, it's not all restaurants.

spk_0 There's a lot of mushrooms that look really similar.

spk_0 Real convincing.

spk_0 Real similar.

spk_0 You can go dead.

spk_0 You can look at the picture and go, oh, that's it.

spk_0 But it's not it.

spk_0 Chat said I could eat it.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And then you're dead.

spk_0 Chat don't care about me.

spk_0 The disclaimer on that.

spk_0 But I think that they're my potential for a mushroom foraging game too.

spk_0 And you know, I'm for kind of anything educational.

spk_0 If I can learn something, I feel.

spk_0 I want to get you in.

spk_0 I want to hear your thoughts on this game ASAP.

spk_0 There's even a high score for a while.

spk_0 I'm excited.

spk_0 Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo.

spk_0 Buffalo Buffalo.

spk_0 Can't forget it.

spk_0 Tweet, tweet.

spk_0 So end dreams.

spk_0 Tweet productions would be good.

spk_0 Stop it.

spk_0 That's a great studio name.

spk_0 Oh, see, I just gave it away.

spk_0 Great staying at game studio name.

spk_0 Tweet, tweet, tweet.

spk_0 Has so many different means.

spk_0 Too funny.

spk_0 I have so much to say.

spk_0 OK.

spk_0 We have to steal that.

spk_0 So that's still what it's ours.

spk_0 Tweet, tweet productions.

spk_0 So end dreams.

spk_0 They allow.

spk_0 Good studio.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And they announce they kind of like.

spk_0 Sleeper or a sister studio.

spk_0 That's going to work on smaller projects.

spk_0 So there's called end dreams compass.

spk_0 They've announced their first game to come out of end dreams

spk_0 compass.

spk_0 Their debut game.

spk_0 Called.

spk_0 Reckon, Rackrune.

spk_0 They call it a chaos simulator.

spk_0 You wreck havoc as a trash panda.

spk_0 The upheld VR said the premise.

spk_0 The premise is reminiscent of IMCAP.

spk_0 You're it set in a cartoon roadside diner.

spk_0 And yeah, you're just going to cause freaking havoc in this game.

spk_0 So you kind of dig, IMCAP.

spk_0 Tom the old lady.

spk_0 I mean, it wasn't longevity.

spk_0 I saw the potential of it.

spk_0 To me, I call it streamer bait.

spk_0 Like, it's really looks good when

spk_0 game streamer stream it and have fun.

spk_0 But then you play it and you go,

spk_0 what do I do?

spk_0 There's like no depth to it, you know?

spk_0 I think it was more of a tech flex.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I mean, I saw it on day one and I messaged you and go,

spk_0 went, this is going to sell really good.

spk_0 Did you did?

spk_0 And at times you did play it though.

spk_0 There were sometimes your laughter was like legit.

spk_0 Yeah, the first time I saw that you could mess up the grandma.

spk_0 Yeah, when you're messing with the old lady.

spk_0 She wax you in it too.

spk_0 You're like, dude, this game is freaking great.

spk_0 If you piss her off, she takes a frying pan

spk_0 and wax you upside the head with it.

spk_0 But if they prove the mechanics can work and they were able to figure stuff out

spk_0 and then shit, we know how the community is in VR.

spk_0 It's still open a little.

spk_0 So they probably shared some of that with other companies,

spk_0 developers, we all win, right?

spk_0 And this one's only $7.99.

spk_0 That's cool.

spk_0 It's got a great name, right?

spk_0 Reckon.

spk_0 Raccoon.

spk_0 Like, wreck it Ralph, but you're a wreck.

spk_0 Can you kill it and eat it?

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 Get some raccoons too.

spk_0 But you know, you see the pictures you just grab a bunch of stuff

spk_0 and you really just cause.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 The graphics do look very eye-em-cattish.

spk_0 I see that comparison, but I'll have to check it out myself.

spk_0 $7.99 on the quest store.

spk_0 Oh, there's one of the pictures you're holding poop in your hand

spk_0 and the guy's puking.

spk_0 It's steaming.

spk_0 Maybe he ate it.

spk_0 Yeah, that's wild.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 That's wrong.

spk_0 I'm down.

spk_0 Not for eating poop, but for some reason.

spk_0 I'm sold as soon as I'm in.

spk_0 I want to wreck me some raccoon.

spk_0 Interesting.

spk_0 Sweet.

spk_0 Okay, this will be real short and sweet.

spk_0 I promise I have, oh my god, it disappeared.

spk_0 Holy crap, it did.

spk_0 I made promises I couldn't keep my articles literally just as I said that

spk_0 and it came out of my pie hole, it disappeared.

spk_0 So the horizon.

spk_0 Horizon, whatever the name is.

spk_0 We'll call it Oculus Plus.

spk_0 No, they get angry.

spk_0 It is Horizon Plus.

spk_0 We'll call it.

spk_0 They're monthly games.

spk_0 Subscription service.

spk_0 Pay, you get a couple of games every single month.

spk_0 Who knows what it could be.

spk_0 I'm not going to lie.

spk_0 Holy crap.

spk_0 The resume they have already of games that you can get is disturbing.

spk_0 Right?

spk_0 Some banger, dude.

spk_0 Walk about mini golf.

spk_0 Freakin' demios in there if I remember correctly.

spk_0 Yeah, almost don't need nothing more.

spk_0 But you know what they're giving you now this month?

spk_0 They're giving you vampire the masquerade.

spk_0 Justice.

spk_0 Freakin'

spk_0 Ready for this?

spk_0 Ghost town.

spk_0 What?

spk_0 Fucking game of the year.

spk_0 What?

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 Now here's what's weird.

spk_0 You know how I call it game of the year all the time?

spk_0 We're a potential for game of the year.

spk_0 I know you've agreed.

spk_0 It's a struggle right now to date.

spk_0 I don't have anyone that's knocked it really hard.

spk_0 Man, I could have sworn it was a mention of upload really liked it.

spk_0 Like it was...

spk_0 I mean, dude, I'm hard pressed to say play the game.

spk_0 I don't like it.

spk_0 It just came out this year.

spk_0 That's not even scary.

spk_0 It's crazy.

spk_0 It's on her, Horizon Plus.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I actually was like, is there another ghost town I'm not thinking about?

spk_0 Dude, I saw that graphic.

spk_0 That's a freaking great day one quest user with Quest Plus.

spk_0 Horizon Plus, whatever the hell it's called, Oculus Plus.

spk_0 They get ghost town this month.

spk_0 And this is the only available this month.

spk_0 Like dude, redeem it.

spk_0 If you have Quest Plus, redeem it.

spk_0 So this isn't in quotes.

spk_0 But it is said in the article, released back in April.

spk_0 We consider meaning upload.

spk_0 Right?

spk_0 I'll say as a whole, ghost town to not just be one of the best VR games out this year,

spk_0 but amongst the best of all time.

spk_0 I can't disagree either.

spk_0 All time's strong, but it holds its own with all time.

spk_0 I would...

spk_0 I don't know what would be all time, dude.

spk_0 I understand a lot.

spk_0 I know it's hard to make an all-time list, especially for story-based games.

spk_0 But I can't say that they're inaccurate saying that.

spk_0 Of course, Vampire of the Masquerade.

spk_0 That was fun.

spk_0 Maybe Fast Travel Games Best In-House Game.

spk_0 It's almost wish they could have sat on the Vampire one for a while, though.

spk_0 It released the same month as Assassin's Creed Nexus,

spk_0 and just lost all momentum just by that.

spk_0 I watched that Assassin's Creed.

spk_0 And it's a good game.

spk_0 In real time, and it sucked, because even with us and how we played,

spk_0 it's like, what do we do?

spk_0 We went to Assassin's Creed, right?

spk_0 Not talking their published games, but Fast Travels In-House Games.

spk_0 I think Vampire of the Masquerade.

spk_0 Manicain and Ghost Signal.

spk_0 That's their best games.

spk_0 Manicain, dude, you might find this weird.

spk_0 I think Manicain's their best of the three.

spk_0 I'm not saying that's incorrect either.

spk_0 Like, that's a...

spk_0 As far as like...

spk_0 It's a damn good game.

spk_0 As far as like, really fun game...

spk_0 I'd play that with Miles.

spk_0 Way back when?

spk_0 You played it with I Know Jamie.

spk_0 Oh, it was Jamie.

spk_0 It was Jamie.

spk_0 They're from British Guy.

spk_0 I profiled, sorry.

spk_0 Sorry to where you came.

spk_0 All of your brits are the same.

spk_0 I y'all sound the same.

spk_0 That just shows you just how nice Jamie is if I confuse them for miles.

spk_0 And if I confuse miles for Jamie, it just proves how nice.

spk_0 I think Jamie was working with Fast Travel at that time.

spk_0 It's possible.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 In some capacity.

spk_0 And that's why you played with Henry.

spk_0 Yes, Henry was part of that play session.

spk_0 Bannakin was a good game.

spk_0 Dude?

spk_0 I actually wasn't involved in that because it was during a work day when I was at the gym.

spk_0 I think that was my first real...

spk_0 I think you did damn good in it, too.

spk_0 I was finding my groove with some others,

spk_0 but I think when I played with Jamie, it got...

spk_0 I'm fair.

spk_0 Dude, Jamie was good.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Like Jamie, I think at one point it was like...

spk_0 There's been everyone versus Jamie.

spk_0 There's been two play sessions that you've taken part in with games that I haven't been involved with.

spk_0 That and a pop one.

spk_0 And both times you represented us good.

spk_0 I lit.

spk_0 Tribe, Tribe, Tribe message just after and was like,

spk_0 Yo!

spk_0 The fuck was that?

spk_0 I didn't...

spk_0 You know, it's like...

spk_0 Ping, ping, ping, ping, ping.

spk_0 I don't care who I'm killing, dude.

spk_0 I didn't know that he kept coming back and I kept pinging.

spk_0 Yeah, that dude.

spk_0 That was fun.

spk_0 So both times you've done play sessions without me there.

spk_0 You've represented us good, so I'm happy.

spk_0 Yeah, so that's two bangers out on Quest Plus.

spk_0 I'm almost feeling more sympathy for developers putting your game out for sale.

spk_0 It's like, I'm not going to lie, dude.

spk_0 Put yourself into the mindset of the new user day one.

spk_0 I just spent all my money on the headset.

spk_0 I heard rumor I get three months of something for free with the purchase.

spk_0 I try it and I'm like, oh, M.G.

spk_0 Ghost town vampire, the master,

spk_0 walk about Minigolf, Red Matter one.

spk_0 I expect you to die.

spk_0 Dude, depending on your location, ghost at the board.

spk_0 Too much.

spk_0 There's so many good games in Quest Plus or Horizon Plus is such good value.

spk_0 Yeah, at that point, like you get so many good games.

spk_0 This is usually when I would go into my Xbox field,

spk_0 but this is a very sensitive subject this week.

spk_0 Well, they've doubled the price of the game pass.

spk_0 No, they added 10 bucks.

spk_0 10 bucks.

spk_0 It was 19 bucks.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 19 30.

spk_0 It went up 10 dollars.

spk_0 Now it's 30.

spk_0 I am justifying this in there.

spk_0 Now it's 30.

spk_0 Well, what I will say though is the day they,

spk_0 so they did the announcement, they sent out emails.

spk_0 I got my email.

spk_0 I was like, oh man, it'd be nice if they threw a little

spk_0 something to the long-termers.

spk_0 I know Inferno's in that boat.

spk_0 Had this shit since it was like beta, bro.

spk_0 Let's give it to me.

spk_0 No, you're going to get 29.

spk_0 They are doing a lot though.

spk_0 And I'm not justifying the price.

spk_0 I don't think that what they're adding increases it.

spk_0 Fortnite, they're adding to it.

spk_0 No, no, no, no, no.

spk_0 It's the promise of pretty much like.

spk_0 Dude, I'm not, I saw like they changed their UI

spk_0 for for Game Pass on the Xbox.

spk_0 The same day they this shit went down

spk_0 and because it's official, there's no avoiding it.

spk_0 And I'm like, I'm not real fond.

spk_0 They need to change this happens a lot.

spk_0 They do something in like three days later.

spk_0 They, oh, it's back to what it should have been.

spk_0 And I was really looking at the games they're giving.

spk_0 It's a lot.

spk_0 They added a lot.

spk_0 Well, what 75 a year?

spk_0 They've added what, they've told you what they're adding to it.

spk_0 They've added a Fortnite to it.

spk_0 They're adding EA play to it.

spk_0 And I believe something would call a duty.

spk_0 No call a duty.

spk_0 I think no call a duty was the caveat.

spk_0 Oh, okay.

spk_0 It was something that they've added old games of.

spk_0 I'm pretty sure call duties on there.

spk_0 What made me laugh was when they did their announcement.

spk_0 Maybe it is called duty staying.

spk_0 I thought they were taking it off though.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I might still have the email.

spk_0 It was sad.

spk_0 They did the best corporate thing where they were like,

spk_0 we've listened to your feedback.

spk_0 Nobody told you to find out.

spk_0 Nobody said,

spk_0 nobody want to pay $10 more.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 So,

spk_0 to justify the increase of ultimate,

spk_0 Microsoft has increased the number of day one releases per year to 75,

spk_0 which is big added.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 It was Ubisoft classics.

spk_0 They added to it and Fortnite crew.

spk_0 Fortnite, I don't care about.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Ubisoft classics, most of those games are kind of on there already.

spk_0 Classics because they're old.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I don't think that I don't think what they added just to find it.

spk_0 I'm sad, but I.

spk_0 30 bucks is a tough sell.

spk_0 Dude, that's what got me out for Shadow PC.

spk_0 Listen, man, the past couple of years,

spk_0 the day one launches they've put on Game Pass is no fucking joke.

spk_0 It's like,

spk_0 no, I do.

spk_0 If you if you bought any one of those,

spk_0 it's pretty much Game Pass for the year.

spk_0 That's that's how I'm looking at it.

spk_0 All they got to do is drop.

spk_0 Dude, what if they drop?

spk_0 I like my ultimate for $9.99 at $2,999.

spk_0 I'm debating canceling it.

spk_0 I get it.

spk_0 Is what happened with Shadow PC?

spk_0 Shadow PC at $4,99?

spk_0 Well, they do.

spk_0 What is a steal?

spk_0 They want to take $50.

spk_0 No, they went from $4,99 to $30.

spk_0 $30?

spk_0 Same price like Game Pass is right now.

spk_0 With way more value, Shadow PC, you got a gaming PC out of.

spk_0 I got out.

spk_0 Yeah, I'm holding my Xbox for a while.

spk_0 There's some rumors.

spk_0 They can't.

spk_0 There's some rumors.

spk_0 So that they're going to drop a free tier for Game Pass.

spk_0 That's ad supported.

spk_0 And I'll just go to that.

spk_0 I'll watch an ad before I mid-game ad or pre-game ad.

spk_0 I think it would be pre-game load up.

spk_0 I would drop my subscription for that in a heartbeat.

spk_0 Did I remember some old-school web games that make you watch

spk_0 so many videos to, yeah, it was the trade-off.

spk_0 I mean, they still do.

spk_0 So app games.

spk_0 If they end up doing an ad tier, you know,

spk_0 I'll save it.

spk_0 That's the one you're jumping at.

spk_0 It's just, it's just, oh, 100%.

spk_0 It just, Microsoft's had a rough month between this,

spk_0 increasing their hardware costs to the top Xbox model now being 800.

spk_0 And then they announced the price of their handheld,

spk_0 handheld system.

spk_0 And it's over $1,000.

spk_0 That's tough.

spk_0 Somebody's smoking the pipe over at Microsoft with pricing.

spk_0 Yeah, I'm more upset about the UI change than the price.

spk_0 A bad UI change will get me heated.

spk_0 They do this all the time.

spk_0 Yeah, everyone does.

spk_0 You'll go in and you'll go to look for your shit.

spk_0 Hey, I'll say right now, I'm on version 81 on the public test channel of

spk_0 Quest and the navigator interface that they have there.

spk_0 I spent 10 minutes looking how to send you a party call.

spk_0 Oh, yeah, I read your Facebook message.

spk_0 You said me when you're like,

spk_0 Look, can you please send me a party invite?

spk_0 I don't know how to invite you.

spk_0 Yeah, it is so bad.

spk_0 It is so 10 out of 10 bad.

spk_0 I'm happy that I have that on your back open.

spk_0 On your three S.

spk_0 Yeah, uh, uh, uh,

spk_0 Oh, no, I haven't on my three.

spk_0 Yeah, you're back up three.

spk_0 You know, uh, I I was scared to death to put it on my when I heard the words never go back.

spk_0 Oh, I put it on my pro one.

spk_0 My main one, my main one and let me tell you right now, the navigator saw.

spk_0 There's some good features.

spk_0 No, it's a there's some steps in the right direction.

spk_0 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just there's a lot of steps in the wrong direction.

spk_0 Don't you signed up for?

spk_0 Dude, it's just like I don't think anything should have been as I did though when you told me.

spk_0 I'm like, you're using your main head.

spk_0 So that thing should never be that hard.

spk_0 How to figure out how to do, uh, basic things, you know,

spk_0 like get out of something or like just send you a party chat.

spk_0 How do I say I don't I just I have to wait until I get the notification that says,

spk_0 and that's risky because you know, I was going to get this strat.

spk_0 Finally, after 10 minutes, it goes stratus to stratus rough talk.

spk_0 VR is online.

spk_0 You want to send my friend or a party chat?

spk_0 I was like, yes, yes, please.

spk_0 Yeah, it's so bad.

spk_0 Um, but anyway,

spk_0 speaking of public channel, uh, connect two weeks ago, meta announced the meta horizon engine,

spk_0 which is a game engine that's replacing unity for horizon worlds that allow you to use

spk_0 the game engine to develop horizon worlds.

spk_0 And you were even shooting to me some game ideas that you might want to make.

spk_0 I won't talk about.

spk_0 Yeah, please don't.

spk_0 But you want to, uh, you want to make them.

spk_0 Um, it's pretty good though, right?

spk_0 Where it's good?

spk_0 Yeah, there's something there.

spk_0 And then they also announced with that, that at the same time that they're bringing the game

spk_0 engine, they're bringing immersive home, uh, which is a new home environment as well.

spk_0 Currently, it advertises meta connects still in it.

spk_0 But meta meta rolled out and announced the first details of their game engine.

spk_0 Uh,

spk_0 here's what they've said about the game engine.

spk_0 For assets, it's going to use a robust data driven and creator controlled asset pipeline

spk_0 that supports modern work, local workflows and standard tools, uh, and familiar middleware,

spk_0 like popcorn FX for FX, F mod for sound and noises for UI and physics X for physics.

spk_0 Uh, it's going to have a spatial audio system that stitches together experience sound and

spk_0 immersive media formats and hybrid hybrid mixed voice over IP into a single immersive experience.

spk_0 It's going to use a first class integration of meta avatars, providing consistent embodiment

spk_0 and interaction behavior across the platform and network cross instance crowd systems.

spk_0 Uh, there's going to be for networking is secure and scalable actor based network

spk_0 technology that allows for low latency player predicted interactions.

spk_0 Um, it's going to have a mobile and VR first forward renderer and a physics based shader model

spk_0 built in liking lighting baker. I don't need to go over the rest of this, but if you're a developer

spk_0 interested in experiencing the horizon game engine, they have started to roll out the features of

spk_0 it and the engine will work on horizon world for both VR and mixed reality and mobile phones as well.

spk_0 So cool stuff. So, sweetness. So, I'll talk about this. I'm going to try it. I just, man, I don't know,

spk_0 scary shit. Too scary. Just off the thumbnail. So hard know for me, but that's not because of

spk_0 quality. That's because I'm a whos with horror games. So this originally came out in flat screen

spk_0 in 2020 called made of skirr. Um, so it's it's it's it's it's VR horror dude based on some Welsh folklore.

spk_0 Can't do it. Um, nope. That's going to be no for me dog. I'm not going to lie, man. The image they

spk_0 use it looks really scary. It looks like extra 5, right? And gates with the ivory grown it and then

spk_0 some girl with the hand covered over how about this? You let me know how it is. Well, let's get into

spk_0 the nuts and bolts of this. Shall we? So they are drawing on a traditional Welsh folklore, which I'm

spk_0 sure the likes of people have grown up hearing horror stories. And now they'll get to play it.

spk_0 This is coming in November right around the corner on quest PSVR 2 and steam. And here we go. It

spk_0 is considered a psychological gothic and British horror. Didn't know British had their own unique

spk_0 horror versus American horror. I would think in nightmares and I may or no matter what part of

spk_0 the rock you live on, right? So you're going to play as a person named Thomas Evans. You've been

spk_0 invited by your partner, whose name Elizabeth Williams. Stop Elizabeth. Uh, you're going to begin

spk_0 investigating the hotel after her family begins acting unusually. So, okay, this is left turn city here.

spk_0 This is going to require a stealthier approach since you can be tracked by sound and you'll need to

spk_0 stop this cult of quote unquote sound based enemies known as the quiet ones. So instead of fending off

spk_0 enemies with like normal weapons, gun sword knives, all sorts of stuff that makes you feel warm and

spk_0 fuzzy when you're fighting to stay alive. Now you're getting onto that. You get a sound device with

spk_0 limited enemy mission that's going to help you avoid an untimely end. So great, you can die in it.

spk_0 Uh-huh. Awesome. Which I have a feeling is going to be a reoccurring theme when you play it. And

spk_0 you're going to have to know when to use this defensive device to mask a sound. I like when games

spk_0 do this and you have to use like thunder lightning as a moment to move. I like when horror games you

spk_0 can't actually die in. Yeah, well, this one you can mature 17 17 plus four intense violence,

spk_0 blood and gore and strong language. Wow, my kind of people, but I'm going to be scared to death.

spk_0 I want to try it. I don't see anywhere in here where Henry wrote this. I don't see in here where

spk_0 he's saying he was scared to death. If I remember correctly, horror is not Henry's jam.

spk_0 Am I crazy in that? I feel like how that impression to. But I feel like what I was this. It's an

spk_0 article. It's not very long. It's very fact. It's very fact based a couple of quotes who you play as

spk_0 how you're playing fending off enemies. Fuck in the end. There is no and I got my hands on it. And

spk_0 I went through two pairs of pants. Well, it's is that one. Flask green, right? So 2020. Maybe it's on

spk_0 Game Pass or something speaking of which maybe you could check it out before you hop into a VR

spk_0 environment. I've never seen a VR horror so scary, man. It's a dude even. It's not going to get the same.

spk_0 What you did to me and flock of the low got them haunted by that's a day one for everyone.

spk_0 Someone get a brand new headset. That's the game and when we're on flock of the low god. Yeah,

spk_0 just to make me like dude, the intro is not even that bad. And you knew what was coming.

spk_0 Then you heard my reaction. Go to the gun range man. You're going. It was 11 p.m. at night.

spk_0 Home alone. In my living room alone, I mean, dark. I hear you piss yourself laugh. And when I hit the

spk_0 the very part you knew I did. I remember you two at one time you played the game and you just like

spk_0 found a safe corner. Yeah, I just stood there and just stood there and fucking off the headset.

spk_0 I realized I'm like, if I just stand at the end of this hallway,

spk_0 I ain't got to do shit. It's not triggering anybody to come after me.

spk_0 Do you remember me freaking out in there when I was like, dude, I'm telling you,

spk_0 oh yeah, I don't like to feel like this when I game this isn't why I play video games.

spk_0 I play video games. You were laying it out. You were just waiting for me to go, all right,

spk_0 let's not play. And you were like, no, do just 10 more minutes. Like just at least try it.

spk_0 Like this isn't why I got into VR. I do this because I have fun. This doesn't feel like fun to me.

spk_0 Being scared isn't a good time to me. Like, not dude, just do at least until the title runs.

spk_0 Nothing bad happens until the time you do bad stuff happen.

spk_0 Oh shit. Great game, no.

spk_0 Do walk of the low god. Real easy to overlook that one.

spk_0 Too funny. We could do a whole days episode on all the overlook gems.

spk_0 Oh my god, that still exists. How about, oh my goodness.

spk_0 There are other ones. Twilight Zone? No. Scary game? No, there are other game.

spk_0 Flaka the low god. Why did you do this? Let me just look it up real quick.

spk_0 And then I'll go through my last one. Who's the developer?

spk_0 Dan, Dan Clifton. The game that we always thought should have been on the main store.

spk_0 Oh, the movie puzzle game. Atlas mystery.

spk_0 There we go. Damn. I never miss it. That's a jam right there. If you never played Atlas

spk_0 mystery, go check it out. Dude, I don't even get me started on that one.

spk_0 So we got our YouTube live to hop to. So I'll go to quick on this one because they've already pushed

spk_0 it back 20 minutes. That's right. My last one is like, it's always my sentence. I almost ripped

spk_0 this one out because it's rumors. You know, according to Bloomberg's Mark German, Apple has a

spk_0 apparently move staff off of the upcoming cheaper and lighter version of the Vision Pearl headset,

spk_0 which was set to come out soon, which by the way was leaked by the FCC a day before this as well.

spk_0 It went on the FCC's website. So I don't know what's just true either. Either they got FCC certification

spk_0 on it or that we know is true. That that part's true or doesn't mean that the

spk_0 government report is true. One of these is true. I think there's a little truth in both.

spk_0 Probably. They probably got it certified, but they're pushing back the timeline of it.

spk_0 Yep. But Bloomberg's Mark German has reported that Apple is moving staff off of the cheaper and

spk_0 lighter Vision Pearl headset that was set to come out and to prioritize shipping, their smart

spk_0 glasses display sooner. So I say that that's a reaction to the meta display glasses that just came

spk_0 out. Where we saw it. But we're seeing it with the Vision Pearl. Now we're seeing with these glasses.

spk_0 Apple is reacting to meta instead of leading the charge. And that's going to be a lot of Apple fan

spk_0 boys off if they were a fight. Apple came out and they're holding the center of the ring. Yeah,

spk_0 I mean, Apple's on the back. But do both of these unexpected. Apple had such a lead on them,

spk_0 hardware wise and software wise. It's pretty unexcusable for Apple leadership to be this far behind

spk_0 meta. Dude, it'd be cool to have AI actually present AI with both the company's info and have

spk_0 them fight based on their info. There are people who say that the Vision Pearl is like the best

spk_0 standalone ads that the seven companies, $3,500. It's not selling anywhere close. Half the price of

spk_0 a cheap used car. I mean, that's crazy. Apple does have potential to make waves with their display

spk_0 glasses when they come out because of established name brand and stuff like that. But the reality is,

spk_0 by the time they come out with their first, that'll might be on their second, if not third generation.

spk_0 Like Apple's on the back foot here. Very surprising. I would not have guessed this 10 years ago.

spk_0 In boxing, they're in a corner and they may match their against the cage. And it's not like they

spk_0 can't get out of it, but it's going to take a lot. And Apple without Steve Jobs and with Tim

spk_0 Cook instead is not the same Apple that had it. Steve Jobs was a one of a kind. He was very

spk_0 eccentric. You know, there's a lot, you know, there's good. There's bad. I love that we make it

spk_0 the only person that ever misses boss. Yeah. That feels so powerful. That feels more powerful

spk_0 than all the accomplishments he did. Well, no matter how you feel about Apple, like Steve Jobs was

spk_0 a visionary. Like the smartphone, the iPhone wouldn't be what it is without Steve Jobs pushing it

spk_0 the way it did. And to be honest with you, if Steve Jobs was in the watch game, dude, if Steve Jobs

spk_0 was on the product team still live when the Vision Pro came out, it would have been a different

spk_0 headset pricing wise, like his vision of timeline wise, they would have gone it out better,

spk_0 faster. And I'd argue if Steve Jobs were still here, they wouldn't be on the back foot,

spk_0 like they are against meta. meta has them like you said, he used a great example.

spk_0 Visionary man. meta is taking the center of the cage. And Apple's like, they're losing the rounds.

spk_0 Yeah. Five round fight. They're getting around. It's just, it's well, it's like the most underutilized

spk_0 punch in all sports. Yeah, they're getting jabbed. They're not getting knocked out. No,

spk_0 meta is just controlling the center. That doesn't mean Apple can't come back in the fifth round and

spk_0 get a cock knockout happens. There's no tie up going on. But meta is going into the fourth round.

spk_0 Up three, three rounds. Apple is falling to the center of the cage. A real heavy right.

spk_0 Doesn't do shit. Yeah. As them going, what do I do? That's all we have. No, it's really interesting.

spk_0 Never would have thought this would have been the case 10 years ago. Watching it play out like

spk_0 this has been interesting. Okay. So I will try to like stay focused on my last one. Short and sweet.

spk_0 Iron rebellion. $24.99. Steam and Quest. So ready for this. They're going from eight player to 16

spk_0 player. Warzone. So I guess performance wise, it just wasn't that theoretically possible a while ago.

spk_0 Probably would have burned our faces off. But 16 player. 16 player for a game like this, you know,

spk_0 it's needed. That's going to be fun. Definitely going to want to check that out. Yep.

spk_0 Improve performance on Quest hardware. We have to 25% in some cases. Wow.

spk_0 Okay, good stuff. Definitely have to check this one out. I love a good Mac game. Yeah, and I do

spk_0 agree extra players are needed. It's a little small. Remember, we're old of mex. That was another one

spk_0 that maybe came out too early. Dude, a lot of games in hindsight, you know, but whatever. I don't

spk_0 think restoration. All right. So upcoming VR games through the month of October. This one's

spk_0 coming out on Tuesday. So excited for Star Wars Beyond Victory, a mixed reality playset coming

spk_0 October 7th to the MetaQuest 3. No Quest 2 users there just Quest 3. This is one of those games

spk_0 that get good. Oh, one thing. Last thing I want to say on the headset numbers on Steam that we

spk_0 didn't get to is just like a cool indication is it showing that premium PC VR users have mostly

spk_0 upgraded from a Quest 2. Like now they're on it's got to be sell. I'm curious to use your

spk_0 accounts and games. But anyway, super RC coming October 8th to the MetaQuest. I'm curious how

spk_0 many down low like publicly hate Meta, but they secretly own heads. Yeah, we've some developers.

spk_0 Dude, we've seen some developers that said I'll never wear one. They're like, you know,

spk_0 ain't too bad. Those numbers seem to say a lot of people use them. All right. The Phoenix gene

spk_0 coming October 8th to PC VR. Love the studio here. Mace and they're on the last rough talk VR

spk_0 gaming showcase. Memorial. October 9th to the MetaQuest. Dreams of a num, dreams of another.

spk_0 Looks trippy as hell. October 10th to PlayStation VR 2. Europa Prime to October 14th on the MetaQuest.

spk_0 Reach has potential to be one of the biggest releases this year. So long as they can

spk_0 market and hype it properly. So I feel like it's not getting the hype but dessert for how close it is.

spk_0 Reach coming October 16th to PC VR. PlayStation VR 2 and MetaQuest.

spk_0 Vex mage coming October 16th to MetaQuest from the publishing wing of fast-revel games.

spk_0 Sy Alex and Ray coming October 17th to the MetaQuest. I feel so bad I meant to let you take

spk_0 the first half. So you already got it down. Okay. We're in my lesson.

spk_0 Trench is VR coming October 20th to PC. I meant to you. I meant to you. I won't do you like I did

spk_0 last week. Dude, I just realized right now that you should be doing this. After giving me a

spk_0 high fin MJ6 5 PMX. SSP, SCP, whatever the hell. So Trench is VR coming October 20th to PC VR,

spk_0 PSVR 2 and MetaQuest. Homeworld, fast reaches going October 23rd to PC VR and wanderer.

spk_0 They're fragments of fate coming October 23rd to PC VR. Dude, the wanderer has been in the

spk_0 I know. I don't know. For three years. I know. I know. Up to and including them socially saying,

spk_0 look, no more saying word, you know, and then what happened? I won't be surprised if it's delayed.

spk_0 All right. Let me try to focus on this because home slice over here left me with a doozy.

spk_0 The Amy Gidala Protocol coming October 24th on Quest. Woohoo! Arcanage coming October 30th, Quest

spk_0 3 October 24th is shit. A couple more times, I can say it. Arcanage October 30th, Quest 3. House of

spk_0 Golf VR coming October 30th on Quest. We got a lot of Quest releases this month. This is cool.

spk_0 Little Planet October 30th on Quest. My evil doctor, Waza. That is a lot of jokes. My evil doctor

spk_0 coming October 30th on Quest. Zero Calvert 2, remastered October 30th on PC VR. Awesome asteroids.

spk_0 I literally thought it said awesome steroids. Awesome asteroids coming October 2025 on Quest

spk_0 by Gridalone. Sounds hard and rough. October 2025 PC VR, Chaos Method. October 2025, PSVR 2,

spk_0 Sinscape VR coming October 2025 on Quest. This one's a good one. Darts VR 2 coming out hard. Bullseye.

spk_0 It's actually Darts VR 2 Bullseye coming October 2025 on PC VR, Pico, PSVR 2, and Quest.

spk_0 Dropped at the cabin finally coming out sometime in October on PC VR. I hope that hype

spk_0 repicks up too when it hits the PC world. Kingdom of Blood Prolog coming October 2025 on Quest.

spk_0 Lapendora's Box coming October 2025 on Quest. I love that there's no hard dates to any of these.

spk_0 Mulan 2125, not to be confused with Mulan Ridge. Mulan coming 2125, October 2025 on Quest,

spk_0 Project Freefall, which we discussed October 2025 on Quest, scared by squares.

spk_0 Hi for that one. You'll October 2025 PC VR and Quest and then Zero Calvert remastered coming October

spk_0 2022. Not just for PC VR is earlier discussed, but also on PSVR 2.

spk_0 Whew, that's it. Well, good stuff. Amy Godala. So you gotta wrap this up to get into our YouTube

spk_0 live, which we do usually around 3 pm, 3 30s, some of the other things going on. We get we went

spk_0 off on that discussion, bro. I think that would be a fun one. That's the base of the real

spk_0 discussions that take place off air usually we're so friendly with each other. You know,

spk_0 people even know people don't even know they have no idea. They have no idea the thing.

spk_0 The way my favorite is when we'll debate something and one of us will take a devil's advocate stance

spk_0 just to throw debate. Mm-hmm. Happens a lot. Yeah. So thank you all for tuning in. Hope you

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VR News - Demeo x DnD: Battlemarked Release Date, New Walkabout Mini Golf DLC, RAGER, Project Freefall, New VR Games, Updates, and More!

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