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The Naddist Uprising | EP 121
In this episode, we delve into the Naddist Uprising on Anderon, a conflict fueled by dark side sorcery and fierce warrior factions. The story follows the rise and fall of key figures, including Queen ...
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In 4,000 VBY, the dark tide of war swept across Anderon.
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The natest army, led by Novar, Queen Aminoa's ruthless apprentice,
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launched a full-scale assault against the Beast Riders,
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the fierce warriors of Anderon's wild moon jungles.
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Empowered by ancient Sith techniques, Aminoa channeled dark side energy
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to strengthen her forces and overwhelm the enemy.
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For a time, it worked.
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Her army surged forward, bolstered by dark magic and discipline,
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but the arrival of Jedi Master Arca-Jeth and his knights changed everything.
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Drawing upon ancient Jedi battle meditation,
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Jeth reversed the momentum of the conflict,
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reviving the Beast Riders' morale,
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while sapping the will of the natest dark ciders.
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What began as a Sith-led assault ended in a decisive defeat.
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The Beast Riders stood victorious.
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But I was going to Tashi Station to pick up the power converter.
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I'm going to be a bit further than my destiny.
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Two years later, war returned to Anderon.
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This time, the threat came directly from the shadows.
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King Omen, Aminoa's husband and a powerful sorcerer in his own right,
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emerged from the depths of a new dark side army.
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Commanding from a life-sustaining exoskeleton,
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Omen unleashed Sith war droids and legions of corrupted followers upon the Jedi
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and the Galactic Republic.
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At his side stood Warb Null, a dark Jedi clad in black armor,
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weeding the ground assault from the front lines.
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But once again, Arca Jeth and the Jedi responded with precision and power.
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Through the same battle meditation that had turned the tide years before,
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Jeth broke Omen's army.
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The Sith forces fell, Omen was struck down,
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and the dark grip on Anderon was shattered.
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Peace, however, fragile, was restored once more.
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Structure!
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The Natist army was built on a strict hierarchy.
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The monarch of Isis, Queen Aminoa or King Omen, held ultimate command.
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Orders flowed through their advisors and field commanders,
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with Novar acting as the de facto general under Aminoa's reign.
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Not content to merely issue commands from afar,
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Novar often joined his troops in the thick of battle,
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a symbol of Sith discipline and brutality, infantry and urban defense.
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The core of the Natist forces consisted of dark side adaps,
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fanatics devoted to the legacy of Friedenad.
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These were not mindless troops, they were zealots, trained in Sith doctrine,
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and willing to die for it.
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Officers led from the front, stationed on the walls of Isis,
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or embedded in street-level skirmishes.
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Sniper's lurked in hidden vantage points throughout the city,
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targeting intruders, and thinning enemy ranks with precision.
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The Royal Protectors
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Queen Aminoa's personal defense fell to an elite cadre,
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known as the Royal Protectors.
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Glad in ceremonial, white armor and cloaks,
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they were far from ornamental.
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Their helmets concealed their identities completely.
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Giving them an eerie, inhuman appearance,
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armed with bladed staves and energy weapons,
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they were swift, efficient killers,
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serving both as bodyguards and enforcers of the Queen's will.
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Sith, elite, warbots,
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forged in the depths of the ancient Sith Empire.
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Sith elite warbots were battle droids of formidable design and purpose.
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Though branded as warbots, their role extended far beyond the battlefield.
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These machines often served as elite security.
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For high-ranking Sith officials, who trusted the
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cold precision of a pair of warbots over an entire squad of organic guards,
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their imposing presence alone was often enough to deter threats.
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Despite their protective role, elite warbots were lethal in combat.
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Masterfully crafted, they excelled in both ranged and melee engagements.
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Their construction was expensive, which limited their numbers,
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but those deployed were highly effective, respected and feared in equal measure.
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Each was heavily armored and typically equipped with dual blasters.
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Though their true edge came from their primer weapon,
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an alchemically forged Sith sword.
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This dark blade could deflect blaster fire and go toe-to-toe with lightsabers.
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Specialized training variants also existed, armed instead with stun blasters and batons.
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However, these softer warbots maintained the same unforgiving programming as their battlefield
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counterparts, making them merciless instructors.
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First developed around 5000 VBY, Sith elite warbots made their debut under the command of Dark
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Lord Nagasado during the Great Hyperspace War. Many were lost in the conflict, but some survived.
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Hidden, deactivated, or sealed away in Sith tombs like those on Coroban.
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In the centuries that followed, they reappeared in later Dark Side conflicts,
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such as the Great Sith War, the Jedi Civil War, and even the natest uprising on Andoran,
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where a distinctive variant with black armor resembling a warb null was used.
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By the time of the modern era, these warbots had faded into legend.
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Few remained active, most gathering dust in ancient ruins or Sith vaults.
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Yet occasionally, explorers or collectors would stumble across one, still intact,
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still dangerous and still loyal to the dark legacy of the Sith.
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Wave Gunners
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The Wave Gunners were the last line of defense for the city of Isis.
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Stations and defense towers along the outer wall, these soldiers operated iron cannons and
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turboblasters to repel airborne and ground assaults. Like the royal protectors,
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they wore full white armor and visored helmets to shield them from the blinding light of their own
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weaponry. But despite their defenses, they remained vulnerable. Acurate blaster fire could pierce
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their armor and bring them down. From the jungles beyond Isis to the halls of the royal palace,
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the natist army fought to resurrect a dead empire. But in both wars, it was Jedi discipline,
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not dark side fury that carried the day. And then the ashes of defeat, the legacy of Friedenand
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slipped once more into shadow.
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War Leaders
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At the head of the armies of Andoran were the king and queen, but other powerful warriors would
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find themselves in positions of great power as commanders and leaders.
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Novar was born into one of the wealthiest and most powerful families in the capital city of Isis.
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He seemed destined for influence. Grummed in privilege and sharpened by ambition,
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he entered the court of King Omen before reaching his 12th season. His path to power was paved with
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his father's connections, not merit, but Novar would soon improve that rock cunning could carry
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him farther than lineage ever could. After over a decade of studying diplomacy and subterfuge at
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the elite University of Ove Terabah, Novar secured a position as assistant to Tolokad,
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King Omen's top advisor. It was supposed to be a ceremonial role, one more title for a spoiled
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noble son. Instead, it became the crucible that forged a master manipulator.
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Rise
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Under Kads' tutelage, Novar learned the true language of politics.
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Espionage, disinformation, and quiet threats whispered behind closed doors. He adapted
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quickly, shaping himself, to fit any room, any role, always saying what people wanted to hear,
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well quietly arranging their ruin. Over time, he took on more of Kads' duties, executing them with
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flawless efficiency, but credit always went to Kads. Eventually, Novar decided enough was enough.
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He orchestrated the perfect betrayal. A lavish state dinner, supposedly planned by Kads, was left
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in total disarray. Guests arrived to find no food, no attendance, no security, nothing but confusion.
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King Omen frail but still dangerously volatile from decades of dark side exposure was furious
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in a terrifying outburst of sith power. He struck Kads down before the royal court.
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Novar watched with fascination and opportunity, with Kads' ashes still cooling. Novar was promoted
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to minister of state and became Omen's chief aide. But his ambition didn't end there.
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The display of dark side power had ignited something in him. He craved it.
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penalties, the
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Isn't It W familiar to Herod's
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and training him in the ways of the Sith.
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Under Omen's guidance, and later under Queen Aminoa, Nova learned to wield dark side powers
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like the Bolt of Hatred, becoming a minor Sith adept and trusted figure in the cult of
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Freedom NAD.
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When the Jedi, who look in K-Kill drama, along with Twilight Knight, taught Donita, arrived
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to wander on in 4000 BBY to mediate the brutal Beast Wars, it was Novaar who greeted them
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and brought them before Queen Aminoa.
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But peace was not what he wanted.
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After a daring raid by the Beast Riders resulted in the abduction of Princess Galia, a Jedi
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pursued only to return at the head of a Beast Rider army, having uncovered the Sith corruption
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within Isis.
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In the battle that followed, Novaar fought fiercely, severing the arm of K-Kill drama.
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But it wasn't enough.
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The Beast Riders prevailed, Aminoa fell, and Novaar fled into the shadows, only to return
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to the service of King Omen once more.
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FALL!
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By 3998 BBY, Novaar remained at the side of the Ailing King Omen.
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Once clean shaven and sharp, he now bore a long grain beard and remained hidden deep within
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the Royal Catecomes.
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When two unexpected guests arrived, Sattal and Alima Kido, heirs to the Emperor's Tita
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system, they came bearing a stolen Sith spellbook, lifted from the Galactic Museum on Coruscant,
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and sought guidance in unlocking its secrets.
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Omen, intrigued, offered Sattal a Sith Amulet that granted the ability to read the ancient
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language.
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In return, he demanded the right to copy the book.
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The deal was struck, and Novaar was given the task of transcribing the text.
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But the dark piece was short-lived.
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Soon after, a strike team of seven Jedi, Ulic and K-Kel drama, Nomi Sunrider, taught
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to Dunita, Oswillum, Dase Dyaath, and Shoneb, Kulu, stormed Omen's subterranean lair.
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The battle was swift and brutal.
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Novaar fell, cut down in the chaos, and Omen perished soon after.
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The Jedi had come for justice, and left no corner of the darkness untouched.
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The Kidos, however, escaped with the Sith artifacts in hand, survivors of the purge and
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future architects of a greater war.
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Novaar was many things, a politician, a tactician, and manipulator.
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His ability to weave lies to orchestrate plots and clocus true intentions made him one
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of the most dangerous men in the Andoranian court.
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He was loyal, fearfully so, to the monarchy, but that loyalty served his ambition as much
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as his king.
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He despised the Beast Riders, whom he called his immortal enemies, and held a deep-rooted
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species, disdain for non-humans, shown most clearly in his reaction to meeting the
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toy leg Jedi taught Dunita.
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In battle, he favored a pulse-wave blaster, but also carried a dagger.
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One he once yielded against Orran Kira, the leader of the Beast Riders, as the years
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passed, he changed in appearance, growing a full beard and shedding much of his earlier
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bulk, but his mind only grew sharper and his darkness deeper.
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Warb No.
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Shas Dovos was born into an age of uneasy peace on the Sith-tainted world of Andoran,
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a brilliant metalworking student with dreams of creation, not destruction, but dreams have
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a way of curdling on Andoran.
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During his studies, Dovos wandered deep into the untamed wilds, where ruins and secrets
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older than the Republic labored.
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There among ancient stone and shadow, he uncovered a Sith-tome, forgotten by time, but very
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much alive.
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The book whispered to him, it fed his curiosity, then his obsession, and it rewrote his
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destiny.
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Years passed, Dovos abandoned everything, his work, his life, even his name.
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In a hidden forge beneath the service of Andoran, he labored over a suit of armor, fusing
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Sith and cantations with black endaloys and alchemical fire.
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When the armor was finally complete, it was not a triumph, it was a trap.
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The spirit within the tomb revealed itself, a ghostly Sith guardian, sentience and cruel.
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It had chosen Dovos from the start.
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With a flash of power and a scream lost to history, the spirit fused men in metal, body
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and will, transforming the innocent craftsman into Warb Null, a silent knight of the Sith.
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Slave of Shadows.
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Warb Null was more than armored muscle.
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He was a living weapon of the ancient Sith.
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Enchanted by dark magic and stripped of identity, he became the enforcer of free
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denath's will, leading legions of natus cultus in open rebellion against the Jedi and
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the Republic.
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His mission, retrieving the sarcrophagi of Queen Aminoa and free denath during a state
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funeral procession through Isis.
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As the tombs were paraded through the capital streets, Null emerged from the depths at the
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head of Amin's dark army, riding in hulking ground boroughs converted from mining machines
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into mobile weapons of war.
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With an aura of pure dread radiating from his cursed armor, Null clashed with four Jedi
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at once, taught Danita, Os Willem and the Kale Droma brothers.
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The Sith had his prize, and even when outnumbered, he fought like a berserker possessed.
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The dark magic shielding his mind made him impervious to fear.
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He didn't retreat, he relocated, falling back to the tunnels with the tombs secured,
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and a war now fully ignited.
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Deep beneath Isis, Warb Null was ordered to stand against Ule Kale Droma, who had come
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in fury to rescue his fallen master, Archiveth, the two dueled in the bowels of Andoran.
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But Null, for all his strength, was expendable.
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King Amin knew it, freedom to add knew it.
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Null was never more than a tool, a sacrificial peace in the Dark Lord's game to mull
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the Ule K into a Sith.
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Kale Droma shattered Null's weapon arm, and the towering Sith warrior fell to his knees.
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He begged, Ule K answered with a single decisive stroke, beheading the armor giant, ending
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both the Forge Master's torment and the Sith spirit's disposable knight.
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Warb Null died, nameless and unwarranted.
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But his cursed armor lived on.
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Millennial later, it was unearthed in the mountain crypts of Niktka, still steeped in
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Dark Energy.
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When a Jedi named Talathe Kilmaman, dawned the armor in 19BBY, visions of the Dark Side
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searched through him.
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Drunk on power, Kilmaman murdered his companions and took a new name, Malius, the hammer of the
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Dark Side.
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Shas Dovos was curious, gifted and terribly naive, seduced by the Dark Side only to be a
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disposable weapon, a tool to be discarded.
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By the time he became Warb Null, the man was gone.
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What remained was a shell of flesh and metal.
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Loyal without question, brutal without mercy, he fought like a Titan, wielding a massive
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green-bladed lightsaber with a hilt fit for a warhammer.
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His armor, alchemically forged, was studded with black spikes and radiated dread, partially
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resistant to lightsabers, fully destructive to morale.
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Null could sense danger through the force, channel Sith Energy in raw bursts, and project
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a chilling aura that paralyzed lesser minds.
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But the armor was also his prison, slow, heavy, and ultimately vulnerable, a single exposed
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joint at his neck would prove fatal.
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Yeah, anyway, let's continue the history lesson.
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The natest uprising.
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Yeah, so we've kind of discussed our cajeth.
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Like we've discussed the planet of wander on the history of wander on the beast wars,
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kind of the, I was going to say geography, but the interplanetary relationship between
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Duckson and Smoons and everything.
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But yeah, we're just kind of now seeing the other side of it.
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Kind of the, we've talked about King Omen and Amanoa, Queen Amanoa, but now we're kind of
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like dissecting their faction.
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Yeah, you kind of see a lot of the rail politic in this sort of period of history,
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which is fun.
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I like, I like that of it.
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Yeah.
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And so this is why we keep harping on wander on specifically.
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Is this stuff?
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We'll carry on into the far future of Star Wars.
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Like, wander on is always politically divided.
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Yeah, man, they, honestly, though, they just got to make like a TV series or a movie about it.
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Just wander on it.
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Yeah, just just about like older public wander on, like do it, do it now.
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Like game, we can game a throne.
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You could, honestly.
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And yeah, that's why we keep coming back to it because there's just so much unpack.
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Like one episode is not enough to cover the depth of all the factions.
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And sub factions, everything.
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Absolutely.
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So currently, you know, we did a whole episode on free to nad the man, the Sith, the legend.
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And now we are dealing with the cult that he left behind in his wake.
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Yeah.
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So we know, you know, the King and Queen are already steeped in this like,
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occult mysticism of the dark side.
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It's just very entrenched with the bloodline and with like the aristocracy and the culture and society of
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ISIS. And that's where these like cult groups come from.
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But it's not just them, you know, they have like a legion of these accolades and warriors that will fight for them.
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They have war droids that they adopted.
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Yeah, all kinds of like, my point is that they're fairly large sub faction.
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Oftentimes, when people think of a cult, they think of, you know, a small group of hippies living in a abandoned mansion.
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Yeah.
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But we're talking about like a serious political and military threat.
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Yeah. It's actually interesting because we've been sort of discussing this beforehand.
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And you know, we do this.
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We like to do our real world parallels, of course, in our discussion of the Star Wars universe.
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But it is very common for the occult to like enter into the politic.
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And we didn't have an episode of Wellback called The occult orders of the Empire.
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And we kind of delve into that as well.
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But you definitely see those themes running through the story of Androon as well in the older public.
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But just like mentioned, a few sort of more prominent characters in our own history would be like
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a character like John D who is in the sort of 1500s just after the Protestant Reformation,
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Queen Elizabeth, the first is installed into power and she's like a Protestant.
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And you know, back then, if you know the history, there's sort of a war.
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The last call.
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Sort of.
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Between that blood.
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Yes, the bad blood between the Protestants and Catholics.
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But anyway, she so she came after Queen Mary, who is better known as Bloody Mary.
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I guess she was very vicious against, against non-Catholics.
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But Queen Elizabeth actually had this guy, John D, who is like an alchemist occultist,
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very prominent.
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And John D, a lot of his writings and his Anokian language that he made up from scratch.
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And Anokian being related to like an angelic.
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Yeah, pseudo and allegedly pseudo-angelic language.
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Yes, exactly.
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Like Enoch being the character in Genesis who a character who didn't die but ascended to heaven.
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Anyways, what do they call that assumption or something?
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I don't know.
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I can't remember the technical.
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He was assumed to have an I'm not sure.
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Anyways, blah blah blah long story short.
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John D develops allegedly from an angel that encounters him, gives him this language.
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And he wrote like this whole tone about the Anokian language.
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And this is used even today in occult circles.
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And a lot of people invoke John D's Anokian language and Anokian rituals to do their
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silly cosplay, which is mostly, there's some in English.
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Not all but the vast majority of these new age occultists, people in my opinion are
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just cosplaying. They know not what they do.
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Anyways, John D himself, excuse me.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, excuse me.
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John D himself was one of Queen Elizabeth's advisors and is actually like credited with
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pointing the term the British Empire.
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He convinced Queen Elizabeth to build a massive navy and dominate the seas,
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which at the time Britain was not like a dominant naval power.
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Not yet.
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Yeah, not yet.
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But like you could think that to John D, he was like a leader in cartography.
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He invented new cartographic systems for navigating the oceans.
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Some people even credit him with like helping to build a system to help navigate to the Americas,
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which is interesting, right?
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So he's like very influential in like real world sciences, but he's also very much involved in
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the occult.
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Yeah, very involved in the occult.
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And he's very influential in the air.
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That's also a theme you see through other historical,
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the overlapping of science and occultism.
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Yeah, and I just wanted to like evoke him.
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There are a lot of occultists involved in government, which is kind of creepy.
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And like the halls of power, even to this day, like if you think a guy's like John Podesta,
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if anyone's familiar, he was like one of Hillary Clinton's.
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Close advisors and he's like quite involved in the occult as well and is up to some very weird
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things.
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So anyway, don't want to get into that rabbit hole, but just just pointing it out, pointing it out
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that occultism seems to cross pass with power a lot with like real world power, yeah,
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real political power.
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And it is interesting that they like in the story of Anderon and the Nattest uprising,
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you see that, like you see that exact same offense.
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Yeah, that same thing happening.
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And sort of these like these these Nattest cults are embedding themselves in political.
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All the way up to the royal family.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah, it's very cool.
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Freedom Natt is like the John D.
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It's our war's down.
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We didn't make that parallel, but I'm sure it's up there.
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Yeah, very cool.
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For a betrayal.
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Some other interesting fact-toids.
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So kind of breaking down the cult leadership.
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So you have obviously the king queen, but kind of focusing in on their two military generals.
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Novar and null.
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They kind of are two sides of a coin where novar kind of represents like more of the scheming
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in city side of the Sith.
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Then again, null being this like hammer, this brute force object.
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And you see that parallel duality between like a cityist invader, like these things.
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Obviously, novar isn't null's master, but that same kind of dynamic of the dark.
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There's that creeping in cityist side to it.
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And there's also that like brute force side to it.
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And they both are an interesting running theme throughout Star Wars.
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And then also warb null himself, big, a very strong parallel to Darth Vader and Darth Maul.
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He, his armor.
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Yeah, the armor.
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It's like a very, yeah.
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And this comes up a lot in Star Wars.
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You have these really cool elements that I don't know if people just really like
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and they want it to repeat or that's an intentional attempt at like the rhyming scheme of Star Wars.
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Yeah.
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Or like this black clad warrior kind of emerges as like the big bad and takes on like four Jedi at a
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time, which is very cool. And this is a good achievement on a warp null.
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But yeah, again, that like armored parallel.
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And I did just, I don't know if we quite described him in the episode.
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I did just kind of want to give like a description of how he looks.
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There is based on like the comic strips that I pulled up.
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He kind of has this sort of almost night like hulking blue black armor.
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More definitely more bulky than Vader like spikes on the shoulder pad,
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that kind of thing.
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And like a very big, big green lightsaber like it is a single blade and a single hilt,
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but it is larger than most lightsabers.
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And he almost kind of has this similar to Vader with like kind of a samurai aesthetic.
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Yeah, aesthetic helmet.
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He has a, yeah, his helmet for sure.
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Yeah.
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The armor I'd say is more like European medieval, but he is like a hulking menacing kind of figure.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Like it.
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That's who you what you should think when you think warp null.
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Yeah.
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And just speaking back to his lightsaber, the Hilt is very, it reminds me a lot of like a no-dachi.
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Which is like an extra long samurai sword.
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It's like a two handed.
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Yeah.
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That's what the Hilt is like.
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And then the blade of course is like a green lightsaber blade, which is an interesting color for a
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for a simple warrior.
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For sure.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Yeah, he's actually, I think he has a cool aesthetic myself, but
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it gives off like very 90s edge lord.
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But there is something to be said for it.
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Just as it, it imitates it doesn't mean it's not cool in its own way.
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Yeah, you know, I do feel like a lot of, this is just a commentary and a side commentary.
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It does feel like because no one wants to
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carbon-copier clone Darth Vader, they kind of stay away from like the Sith armor.
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Like there's not a ton of characters that are heavily clad in armor.
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I don't think so, man.
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It depends what you class how you classify armor.
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It's like light armor.
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What they all have.
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It's not like having a suit about a armor.
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And that's what I kind of like about Warb now.
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Yeah, his percent that they do actually like fully embrace the Vader aesthetic.
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There's a couple characters I think.
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I would argue fall into that category, but we'll cross.
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There was a marker rag nose for one.
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He was one who had like very distinctive armor.
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And Malgus.
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Darth Malgus.
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Yeah, he kind of goes through a progression where he starts out kind of normal and then he starts
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to dawn more and more armor until he gets starts to look more Vader-like.
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Over time and then also King Aydus has a pretty Vader-esque suit of armor as well.
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There's a few.
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I feel like it's the minority though.
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Well, sure.
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Like a small minority.
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It's one of those things where it's weird that it's happened more than once though.
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Yeah, yeah.
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No, and there's something to be said too.
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Because in the reverse Vader's armor said to be inspired by Sith armor as well.
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Yeah, so it's not that Vader would be
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holy unique in his style of armor.
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That's true.
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Of course, it's all retroactive in our terms because Vader was a character that came first,
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but in the history of Star Wars, they have this like thousand year history of Sith armor to
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kind of riff off of when they're building the Vader suit.
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So yeah, it's true.
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Yeah, I guess I'm just making more of the point like I wouldn't mind
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think a little more like heavily armored Sith.
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It may be even Jedi too.
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Like, why does it always just have to be sort of robes and
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biasing towards agility, right?
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Instead of just like brute strength, but we know what Sith philosophy you follow.
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Anyways.
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Yeah, and then the other kind of like disposability aspect.
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You see that a lot more with Darth Maul as a character where
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the Sith uses their apprentices as tools.
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Yeah, like Warp Null is very much just a blunt instrument.
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Yeah, Marjit's kind of like that too.
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The Emperor's hand, you know, they're just
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certain instruments.
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Yeah, instruments to they don't really have any aspirations for these tools beyond their usefulness,
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right?
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They will be discarded eventually.
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Yeah, that they're earliest convenience.
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Yeah.
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And it's also it's not like how the maybe the Emperor was
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grooming Vader to take his place one day or something like that.
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It's like these these are some characters that are just
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they're useful for a time and then yeah, disposable once they're no longer useful.
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Yeah, and it should be said too that even Darth Vader kind of falls into that role unintentionally.
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After he's brutally wounded on Lucifer, the Emperor is kind of like, okay, he's not really
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the full potential diversion of my apprentice and slots into that disposability category.
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Maybe I feel like Vader was more like a right hand man though.
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But at the drop of the hat, helping him to replace him with Luke.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Like instantly, like it's not even a question.
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Like it's seen as someone more powerful and that is in line with sith doctrine, right?
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Yeah, only the powerful have a right to rule.
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Yeah.
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And if you are weaker than you are disposable.
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And that's a blue-puzzle-puncher.
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He would just continue.
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Well, yeah, of course, because he's the strongest one until someone better comes along.
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Yeah, right.
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Again, it's all about utility for sure.
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Yeah, just delving deep into the enatist cults and we will be doing a little bit more
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exploration with the Andron Seriarch with now from the Jedi perspective with Ulik and Kay Keldrumah.
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Kind of speak to big characters.
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Speaking back to the cultish influence over aristocracy as well,
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two characters we briefly mentioned in this episode.
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Say, tell Anna Lima, Keto.
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They are also part of the Empress Tata aristocracy and they're getting involved in like
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occultism and they're going to bring this back in the next kind of phase of the story.
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So more of this to come where this like steeping occultish influence kind of like creeps through
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different powerful families and institutions and we'll rear up again in open conflict.
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Yeah. I do.
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It is a weird thing and making the the real world parallels here.
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I do wonder like why some not all like very elite powerful people engage in
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sort of occult or ritual magic. I wonder if it's like, is there like a certain paranoia where
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they're just they're looking for any edge that they can get and even if it's a shot in the dark,
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they'll take it, you know, and is that why they engage in that behavior?
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You know, because there's been a lot of even like in our country in Canada, there's a lot of
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free mason's. Yeah. And I know a free mason maybe isn't technically occult, but it has some
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there's some overlap. Yeah. There's a lot of like ritual involved. That's very similar to
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occultism, you know. So I don't know. It's just a thought like why they engage in that.
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I'm always hesitant to give one answer to human behavior. I think humans are infinitely complex.
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But if I were to guess for a number like a number of theories could fall factor into it. One is
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what you're saying is this like, okay, you're at the top of the food chain. You'll look for any edge.
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Or a potential opponent. I think there's elements of like boredom. Like when you're super rich and
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super powerful, you just have more free time to get involved with other things that are like there's
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got to be more than this. Yeah. Sure. A lot of hedonism goes hand in hand with that kind of lifestyle
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as well. And there can be overlaps there. So I'm always hesitant to give a one word answer for
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and to be to be completely fair. I don't know that like occultism or ritual magic is more prevalent.
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Among the powerful, the power elite than it is among the rest of the population. I don't know that.
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Yeah. And you have things like folk religions. So where do you draw the line on occultism?
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Exactly. Like there's an occult Tik Toker every five seconds popping up right and there just a
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nobody. And yeah, it's like, okay, it could just be like that's there's a number of people that
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are always going to be involved in it. And because they're powerful, we focus more on it.
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Yeah, it's not a statistical operation. We consider the whole population.
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That's possible to end the thing that's difficult about this stuff is it's the whole nature of
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occultism is to be hidden, right? Right. Yeah. It's not like you do surveys of like
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yeah, what secret societies are you involved with? Yeah. So yeah, interesting stuff.
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Yeah. In the halls of power and political intrigue. Yeah. All right. I think that's all I got
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