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Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 585: Featuring Matthew Knies, Big Caez & Eric Engels
In Episode 585 of Spittin' Chiclets, hosts discuss the return of the NHL season, share personal anecdotes about coaching youth hockey, and reflect on the ups and downs of college football, partic...
Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 585: Featuring Matthew Knies, Big Caez & Eric Engels
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What's up boys?
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What's up girls?
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Anyone listening?
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Holy shit.
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The NHL's back.
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Tomorrow night.
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Tomorrow night.
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We get this thing ripping.
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It's another season.
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It comes.
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It goes.
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I know I got a show to pink Whitney.
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Thank you so much episode 585 guys.
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Felt like a quick off season to me.
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We're back.
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We're right back into it.
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Wait, it sounds like you lost your voice a little bit.
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You've been screaming?
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No, I haven't been screaming.
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I guess there's some yelling on the bench.
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Go skate.
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Shoot.
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Pass.
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You know, the things you're supposed to yell that really probably helped the kids.
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They have a millisecond to do it.
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If you yell it, it might actually help.
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Bend your knees, right?
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D.
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But down, chest up.
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But, you know, I coach with passion, but at least I try to tough weekend.
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Oh and two for the boys and then oh and one in the town game.
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So over three, but you know what?
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We keep losing, baby.
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Peaks and valleys, baby.
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Peaks and valleys.
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That's life.
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I've been telling this to people over and over.
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Peaks and valleys.
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I've been in some enormous peaks.
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I've been in some giant valleys.
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So you stay even Steven and then you concentrate on your job.
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You concentrate on the podcast and you don't worry about stressing about seven-year-old
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you talk you.
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Okay.
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So yeah, my voice may be a little bit a little scratchy, but I'm ready.
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What are the chances that Ryder ends up on a team that goes to the P.W.
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tournament and you're like, this is the tournament that I won when I played P.W.
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Hanaki.
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Those percentages right now while being quite a few years away or little law, little
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law, but it's not going to stop me from reminding everyone that I won that tournament.
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Keep screaming.
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He just screaming into him.
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You just got to let him know from the bench.
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That usually works.
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Just scream at kids.
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They really respond well to you.
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You talked last week about him throwing the pizza and then on the way to the bench as you
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were giving him the stare down.
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He's like, am I going mini-puttin with mom after this?
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Was there any pizzas this week?
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Any tough mistakes from Ryder?
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No, no.
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He's giving it his all.
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Okay.
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I just, you know, like you hear Matthew and Brady Kachak say a big wall, just told him
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attitude and effort.
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The only two things you can control.
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That's in life, boys.
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Yes.
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I think it's the only two things you can control.
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So my mom needs to say attitude is everything.
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I used to have a poster in my basement.
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So she reinforced the extra car, the extra wash and the car.
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And she'd also say, Lord, give me strength because I would piss her off so much as she'd look
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up at the sky and she'd make a fish.
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She said, Lord, give me strength to deal with the strength.
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You strike me as a kid, asshole.
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You strike me as a kid who was like allowed to have the like the bikini models, washing cars,
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posters in your room.
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No, I've still had one in his room.
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No, I told the story before like I got my hands on like a fox magazine.
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Like it was one of the like, you know, like it would always have like the center fold and like she'd have like the
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com target honor and shit, you know, but I would, I would have these.
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Yeah.
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No, but we are, but I had these pull out drawers underneath my bed where I would hide the magazine.
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So no, there was no posters like that.
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Sorry, Hans.
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Sorry, Hans.
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Sorry, the assay about the posters.
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We're not previewing the Atlantic division.
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We're going over the best magazine issues of fox center, whatever.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Best center folds.
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Business top 10 MVP candidates along with his top 10 hustler title covers that were ever released.
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Yeah.
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No, I'm celibate now.
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So I'm going to I just have to get that off my chest.
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You know, those are that's I didn't want to remind you because then it might trigger some old behavior, you know, yeah, that's right.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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But what were you up to this weekend?
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Hans more lacrosse more with the girls getting into.
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Yeah, had the cross, but no games just practice this weekend.
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Yeah, pretty low key though.
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Got got some stuff.
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Got the decorations out for Halloween, which you know top three holiday.
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I love Halloween.
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It's so fun.
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But yeah, got the decorations going this weekend.
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But kind of one of the last weekends, you know, we got something going on in two weeks in, you know, the kids look
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across the tournaments are starting up next weekend.
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So it's kind of the last weekend to really chill.
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Yesterday I watched a ton of college football, which is great.
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And then you know, just getting ready for today.
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What was the what was the highlight of the college football?
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Like what took the that archmaning kids kind of struggling a little bit.
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But I saw that unfortunately, I kind of feel bad.
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It's more Penn State.
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Penn State's the joke.
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Yeah.
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We could get into the positive sides of Penn State.
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And we're going to do that later in the episode because we have a freak on our hands.
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We have a, um, a complete full blown freak.
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It was in my city in Gavin McKenna, who's not only nasty at hockey, which we all know.
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He's, he's a little motherfucker too.
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He's a feisty motherfucker.
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He's a fucking shit.
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I really like that.
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But the Penn State football team talk about a pathetic pathetic team.
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They lost UCLA.
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I don't think UCLA had let a game for one second this season.
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They were on four bus.
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Penn State was supposed to win the national title.
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They lost the UCLA.
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So all these Penn State people I see on Twitter.
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They're down bad.
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So it's on to hockey for those.
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And he's and they've also lost back to back weeks.
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Haven't they?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Lost a big game and then a bad game this week.
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So are they done like?
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Is there no way they make that top 12 team thing?
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Oh, man, it's tough and college football considering none of us know that much at all.
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I would say yes, because the UCLA loss will be that bad.
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Unless they somehow, I think they play Ohio State.
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I think that can get them back in the match.
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Maybe that can get back in.
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I could be making that up completely.
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But guys, I wanted to also mention my weekend last night was awesome because, um, you guys
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know who Brett Young is, country singer.
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So I think pretty up and coming getting bigger and bigger.
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He performed for the Thomas Smith Foundation, which is a foundation that it helps out people
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that are affected with spinal cord injuries.
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And so Jake Teebo was there.
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He was a big part of it.
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I believe he's part of the board of that.
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And they got Brett Young to come.
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It was at Park City, but it's your favorite spot.
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So I was right back there.
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I saw Jake there.
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There were when we were there for trickle-tip.
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Yeah.
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And met a bunch of incredible people, Medicaid from situate, Medicaid that knows morals
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real well, that have had these just brutal injuries that and these, they're such reminders
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of, um, kind of resiliency and strength and attitude when we talk about attitude and
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just like attacking every day after dealing with the, you know, the worst of circumstances.
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So it was incredible.
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This Brett Young guy was awesome.
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He, I guess he was a big time pitcher.
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Went to Fresno State.
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Somebody's telling me blue his arm out, got into singing.
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He's six, six completely shredded.
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Very good looking man.
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Like I'm not going to lie.
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He went up on stage and like me and my buddies look over at the wives.
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I'm like, why are they all like taking pictures?
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Yeah.
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Oh, I see.
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His arms look like the rocks.
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And I guess he was a sick baseball player too.
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And then now he just sings and just loves life.
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So incredible night.
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And I wanted to show, showed out that foundation.
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And yeah, we were talking a lot of hockey.
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I ran into a lot of people.
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How the Bruins going to be?
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How the Bruins going to be?
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I go to you might want.
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Now, might not want to tune into the episode Monday where we go over the Atlantic because
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I don't have many great things to say.
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Now, Geo, come on and he'll talk about them.
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And we'll get into all those teams.
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But the biggest news of the week, he should be saying, fucking tank for, for McKenna.
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I don't know how you're not.
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Yeah.
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The argument is one guy actually, I shouldn't say I don't know how you're not because
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somebody told me how he's not.
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He told me it's just such a crap shoot.
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Tanking is such a crap shoot.
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You lose, you don't win the lottery.
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Boom, you get third overall.
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Like, and then you're, what are you tank again for the next guy?
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Yeah.
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And people are already saying that no matter what, he's going to the penguins because
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Mario, you guys know that timeline.
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It was like 40 years ago, then 20 years it was said.
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And then now this year it'll be McKenna.
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So I think I said that timeline on this show.
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How 20 years each, but yeah, yeah, show it all wet.
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Um, so I just can't get over.
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And I am so excited for the players in the National Hockey League.
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And all the young stud 16, 17, 18 year olds are going to make this league and build this
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league moving forward because they're all going to make a shitload of money.
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I saw 17 million dollars a year for Corrocopee soft.
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That is, that is like not only record breaking in terms of average annual salary and total
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dollar amount for the contract, but just more like a shaking of the foundation of the
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league and salaries.
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I think forever now.
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Yep.
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Your top dog, your top five player in the league, you ain't getting less.
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Now, we'll get into McDavid and him possibly taking less and what that means, but it's
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not going to go backwards, guys.
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And I was so excited for him.
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I mean, he bent over the wild in an odd sense because they had already told him, we'll
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give you anything you want.
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We've mentioned the blank check he had.
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So biz initial reaction from you.
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Uh, what do you think?
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Yeah.
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Some people were saying, oh, this is going to age poorly and it's too much.
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He's bleeding his team dry.
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I don't agree with that.
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And you got to think too, like he wasn't making much money when he first came in there
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and he was their best player dominating.
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So he's got to make up a little bit for lost time.
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And I think that he's earned the right to get that money for what he's provided that
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organization.
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Uh, like, and also, I believe they're done with the Amnesty Bios, correct?
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This year, those are off the books.
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So that's another reason why they're not off the books.
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It's very low now.
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Like it's not a big hit anymore.
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If it is.
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Yeah.
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So I think it's a totally fair number and especially for a team like Minnesota, where,
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like, who else are you going to give the money to?
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I don't think that they're going to have the ability to attract like, like big time free
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agents, nor do big time free agents ever really go to market anymore.
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And if they do, I don't think no offense to people in Minnesota.
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Like I don't think Minnesota is necessarily a landing spot.
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I love Minnesota.
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Like that way.
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I mean, if I had the ability to sign and they might be in my top five list, but I just,
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you know, and I don't think he's worth the price of admission.
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Like he's a one man ban.
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Like he could play with two average players and still help drive a line.
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So when you have a, like you said, probably a top five, if not for sure, top 10 player
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in the league and all of a sudden the cap's going where it is.
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And for what he's done there prior, including on years where he was making peanuts.
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Like now, now I believe he's, he's in the last year of his $9.5 million deal.
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So he's being paid appropriately as we speak.
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But I, I think it was a no brainer.
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And as you mentioned before, I think he knew exactly the type of leverage he had, not
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only from the owner's comments, but I bet you there was probably 10 teams that would
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have paid him what he just signed for it.
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If not more, I've heard of one for sure.
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I heard Philadelphia was going to offer him whatever he wanted and including like loaded
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in bonuses where it's all all protected.
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So good for him.
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An incredible player.
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And as we said before, he's worth the price of admission.
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So yeah, I mean, I don't know how you feel about this one, but hard to, hard to disagree
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with what they gave him.
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Yeah.
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I just think it's a great thing.
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Like you both touched on great thing for the league guys getting paid.
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What, you know, you look at other sports, what guys are making.
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And I just think it's such a great step for these big dogs to get paid, right?
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And like you said, it is too like to be in Minnesota like Billy G's probably the best
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GM in the league.
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Everybody loves them.
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Everyone wants to play for them, but it is.
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It's Minnesota.
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It's freezing cold for seven months.
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Like they're not getting the guys that, you know, other teams can go out and get every
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year.
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So it's, it's one of those things you have to pay the guys that you, that you have, that
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you've drafted that you have and develop like, favor, he's going to be the next guy that
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gets a monster deal.
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He's going to sign a huge, huge, he'll probably be the, he got one.
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He got the big one.
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He got, but he got eight and a half wasn't it only a five year deal though?
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No, he's got, he's got five more years.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I mean, like he's going to, when his deals up, he's going to be the highest paid
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demand.
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I'm sure at that time, like, because they have to overpay to keep these guys.
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Like, I think once guys go there, they love it, right?
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Like you see all these guys stay there.
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Like they love playing there.
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They love being in Minnesota, but it's, you know, it's a big number to look at, like
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especially us.
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Like we were in the league when the top end guys were making like six million bucks.
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So it's like looking at it right away.
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It's like, oh my God.
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But then you think about it.
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It's like, I just think it's so good for the league, so good for these top end players
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to get paid what they deserve.
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And you said it too, but it's like he brings it every night.
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Like he's not taking nights off.
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If he's in the lineup, he's bringing it, he's bringing entertainment to your cities,
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bringing entertainment every single game.
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So I think it's a huge win for both sides.
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And I really hope he didn't keep his agent when the owner of the team said, hey, you
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can have whatever you want.
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I hope he just said, okay, I'll handle this one.
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I know.
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God, I didn't even think of that.
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Now, he said no to the 16 million a year in Minnesota.
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I was like, all right, how's 17?
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Like it probably would have continued to go up.
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And the main thing, the best question I saw that was posed in terms of why it was a great
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signing is like, all right, do you overpay him or do you lose him?
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Like that's a no brainer.
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Like all of a sudden that organization, if he was gone, and I'm not trying to be mean,
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it'd be like, wow, like they're kind of a joke.
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Like they had this one game breaker that they somehow got in the fifth round, fourth round
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ever it was.
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And now he's not there.
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Now he that could have been up to him and it could have been out of Minnesota's control
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where he was like, I don't want to be here.
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But you keep going, you pay, you pay your superstar.
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And I think as long as he's healthy, he's a top five player in the league.
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That is a legit worry though that he gets injured a lot.
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And also how many, how many teams in the league were, if you take away one guy, they go
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from being a probable playoff team to a non-playoff team.
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And I would say that, that they are up there.
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Like, I mean, they were at the top of the league last year.
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And I believe he was hurt for a little bit there.
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They, not mind you, they had a lot of injuries mounting at a certain point last year.
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When all of a sudden they started dwindling where people thought maybe they wouldn't
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even make playoffs.
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They ended up scooping up the, I want to say the wild card where they ended up playing
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who the first round of Vegas.
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Yeah, the Vegas.
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So if they make playoffs as a result of him, then it's easily
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worth the 17.
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And I just kind of look at where he's at now.
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And then if you're an oiler's fan looking at dry side, I'll make him 14 thinking holy
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shit.
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That is.
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No, I thought that is not.
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I thought, I thought rantin' and Colorado.
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That's another one.
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Like holy shit, man, you could have just paid this guy 12 million.
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Now, rantin' and that's like, I think it's natural to be like, are you fuck crazy?
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Like you sign that deal and then you're all of a sudden like, wait, what?
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I'm a huge bargain.
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That's just how these guys are wired.
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That's how, you know, I think top end talent, not just in sports, but in entertainment.
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Like, you want to be paid what you worth.
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You see a guy you consider, you know, you're even with and you're like, wait a minute,
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he just got 17.
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I just got 12.
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So for me, it's more Colorado.
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You didn't want to just give him that.
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Knowing what this landscape of this cap was going to do.
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And this is the first signing of showing us that these new cap numbers, which I've also
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read apparently will be like 113 next year and 120 the year after where it was supposed
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to be 113 million in two years.
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Like, it could be even more than they're already saying.
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But by them coming out with the future cap for the first time ever, I remember, I don't
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ever remember hearing like cap in advance two, three years.
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That was huge for the players.
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That's how, you know, he ends up getting this deal, I think.
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I also, it's crazy how much more the agents and players are in the know as time has gone
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on too.
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I mean, there was a time in the NHL where guys didn't even know what each other made.
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And they wouldn't talk about it either.
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Like that, that to me is mind boggling where, you know, certain guys were obviously getting
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like big time bent over.
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I mean, the, the, the most famous one being, I believe that Bobby Orwell was offered a
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percentage of the team, wasn't he?
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In Boston?
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I think that's the story.
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Alan Eagleton, just a, just a dirt ball dirt bag.
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And I believe he never even told them.
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I mean, as we're going to talk about moving forward here, man, like even like, like Luke
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Hughes deal, the LeCome deal, like these guys coming at eventually level even have these
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teams by the balls now, let alone like hitting free agency.
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So just a remarkable record set in contract and also very, very well deserve.
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For, for, for Carole Capri-Soff.
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Yeah, it's not like they're just giving him the money just to give it to him.
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Like he's proven himself every year.
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He drives the bus there.
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He puts asses in seats.
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So he deserves every penny of it.
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And his July one every summer for the next eight years is going to be a fucking phenomenal.
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Yeah, we should pull it off.
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It's like, he makes like a million bucks a year salary, right?
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First of all, the whole year.
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It's like 18, 18, 18, then like 16, 16, 16.
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It's it's unlawful.
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Imagine the visors like, yes, you're the rush imagine the Russian parties.
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That guy's going to throw like, forget need in Putin's card.
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You're always talking about this.
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He's got his own.
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Putin's going to be using his card.
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So an incredible day for the.
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Yeah.
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18.1 average of life first until 2030.
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Then it drops to 16 face salary of one million.
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People even cash those two week pay checks.
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You're like, oh man, you suck.
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No, no, you got to see the one that they sent me July first.
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Minnesota wasn't done either.
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Probably like just as important of a signing maybe if they're going to be the team that
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their fans hope they're going to become is is their goal tender.
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And they locked up.
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Philippe Gustafson.
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This is actually I think a very fair deal for his career number 6.8 cap it for three years.
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I believe it is G check out that one for me, but a monster goalie they got him over from
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five years.
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Excuse me five year deal.
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They got him over from auto a few years back and two years ago he wasn't great after a
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solid first year there.
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And then last year he was phenomenal.
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So I think they're looking at a guy who's going to keep getting better and then I think
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Dustin wolf this deal he signed going to be a hell of a goalie.
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But Gustafson's maybe proven it a little bit more and got less money.
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So like if you're a wild fan on that one, I think you're thrilled with the number
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that he came in at.
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Yeah, just more years there.
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That's probably why for the longer security for wolf.
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But yeah, I mean, he's he's worth this number an incredible goalie and and you know, yeah,
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it's I kind of look at him and then like that swam in category like a young up and
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cummer who's got jam.
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He's ready to be a starter and and you know, lug the mail for probably, you know, 60 to 65
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games.
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And he's proven that and had an awesome bounce back year and and the numbers tell him
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he's deserved that number.
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So it's good for many though, man, they they've solidified their goal tending.
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They got they got their defense into the future too.
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They got their they're forward of the future and then some great pieces around him.
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I mean, even like the boldly deal like that.
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That looks incredible for for he's a 40 40 guy, according to Billy G and really he's
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proven that.
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So just some some remarkable signings and Billy G has really, really changed the culture
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since he's been there and it's a testament to him and what he's building.
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I think Gustafson's at that that perfect age as a goalie like 27 is when they really
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start to figure it out.
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He's got a couple of years under his belt like that 27 to 31.
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They're like, I mean, you look at Bob like he's getting better and better every year.
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Like the goalies get better and better.
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They age more well than players do, I think.
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So 27 I think is when they really start to hit their prime and he's going to he's a huge
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guy.
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He's got good big D in front of him like they should be placed have a good year.
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I love watching them play.
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And it's a different story when Capri sobs out, but that that building's electric.
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We were there for the frozen four.
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We've played in that building.
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Awesome fans.
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I want them to do well.
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And the good thing for their fan base looking at it like they got everyone locked up basically.
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I mean, Tukorello has one more season and it sucks.
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He's going to be injured to start the year, but Capri saw a bowl the Eric's and act Marco
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Rossi.
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They got Felino three more years.
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They got three more years of training, two more years of Hartman, five more years of
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favor, two more years of Spurgeon, three more years of Brodeen.
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Middleton's got four more years.
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So they pretty much have everyone done.
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You know, we'll see what's he Buyam does this year and then what he would need next summer.
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He'd be eligible to sign it.
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So good job wild.
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Congrats to their fans.
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They got their guy.
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I was worried when he said no to 16.
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I'm like, he's probably he's saying no to that.
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Like he might just not want to be there, but he'll be there.
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And we get to watch him perform and hopefully the wild going to run because we all love Billy G.
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I want to bring in posh now if that man is around because the devil's they made news.
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And in classic Whitney mush form.
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I think I talked to posh about two weeks ago, three weeks ago, I said,
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Hey posh, what's going on here?
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You said he's signing today.
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He's signing today.
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I said, okay.
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And that day came and went and then weeks came and went and then I woke up and I texted the
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group chat.
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What day was it posh?
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This past week.
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Maybe Wednesday.
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This was like Thursday.
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Yeah, Wednesday or Thursday.
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The time was incredible.
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It was like 630 in the morning.
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You don't look like you've slept.
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You're celebrating posh.
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You got bags under your eyes.
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Jesus Christ.
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No posh.
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No matter what you look.
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Hair looks great.
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Thank you.
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I appreciate that.
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You look good.
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So I decide I'm having my morning coffee and how is posh coming into my head?
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I don't know.
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I said, fuck posh.
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I say, Hey posh, what's going on here with Luke Hughes?
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You told me 15 days ago, he'd be signed.
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And sure as shit, not about two hours later.
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You sent me Elliott Friedman's text.
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It was unbelievable.
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No, not even two hours later.
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Like I responded immediately and then we were beckering back and forth.
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Like heated beckering and like literally mid beckering.
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I got the notification that he signed.
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It was unbelievable.
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I started laughing out loud.
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I'm like, holy shit.
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I can even I can even ruin this.
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I can't even ruin my ability to talk shit that Luke Hughes isn't there yet.
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But they got it done, posh.
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All right.
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No, congratulations.
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Now I think that McDavid to the K HL take his more.
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I'll take that one now.
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I don't think the hoses are going to all be on the rangers.
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He signed the deal.
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I should have been your deal.
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Nine million dollars and right with the caps going.
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If he turns into what you've been telling me he's going to turn into,
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posh, could be a bar going to be.
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I also didn't say the rangers like this year.
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I said that that could be down the road too.
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Six years.
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Seven.
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We're playing fantasy sometimes when we come on and we talk about this stuff.
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Now wouldn't it be funny?
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Enjoy it while it lasts.
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Now posh.
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But let's say the years go by and they don't win any hardware.
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And fast forward six, seven years from now and the three of them are all sitting.
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And there's a big rangers banner behind them and they all got rangers.
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Here's these on.
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So I'll let you soak it in and enjoy it for now.
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But let's not discount that that could potentially happen.
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Sure, but you could use that same argument.
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Let's say McDavid wins five cops in the next 10 years.
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And when he's 40, they offer him 50 mil for one season in the K by that logic.
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He could still play in the K on the back half too.
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I love this.
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I love.
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Hey, don't look at me.
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I was down with the McDavid to the K and I've been getting all those bull cuts sent over to me.
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Yeah, I think it's a great deal.
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I'm surprised it took so long to be honest.
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Like, I don't know what each side came in the negotiations out.
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I mean, I figured fits he would try and get them closer to eight.
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Luke must have been trying closer to 10.
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But you know, I figured it coming around this number.
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And like I said in the group and, you know, I think for this upcoming season,
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it's a slight overpay.
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But then for the rest of the deal, once he kind of continues to develop,
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it's going to look like a steal within the cap going up as well.
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Just for what he brings.
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And you know, if you go look at NHL.com and you look at his points,
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like solid numbers, like kind of mid 40s points last two seasons.
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But that's him not even running the power play for the whole year.
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He kind of split the time with Dougie.
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So if what I think is going to happen and this is probably going to be Dougie's last year in
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Jersey, if you have a full season of Luke running that power play,
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I think his numbers are going to be even higher.
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And you know, another chart, I know you love the, you know,
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chart for the charts.
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But in terms of power play production, Luke was actually the most efficient power play
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quarterback in the league last year.
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And it was because he was playing second unit and maybe playing against, you know,
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not the or is that running the top top unit with the.
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I mean, the second unit gets like fucking 30 seconds at.
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But there are no second units anymore.
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Yeah, I think it's a new thing.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So you just said he wasn't running the first unit.
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So like where was him and Dougie?
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Him and Dougie.
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But what I'm saying is whoever was running it is playing 80% 85% of power play regardless, you know.
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But so yeah, in terms of points generated per 60, Luke Hughes was number one in the league last year.
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Lane Hudson was two.
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Quinn Hughes three.
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So he's very dynamic.
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He does have some warts in his game.
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You know, he's 21.
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Actually defensively.
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He's got some stuff to learn.
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But just with that with that big frame and the way he can move,
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I believe he was actually the fastest skater in the league last year.
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Defencement in terms of straight line speed.
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So the guy can move.
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He's getting a team around out his defense when they chart the miles per hour thing.
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Like speed burst.
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Yeah, Pasha.
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You've told me that you think if if full potential is reached,
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you think he's more dominant than his brother.
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Quinn at some point in the league.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I did not.
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I did not say that when did I say that?
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Chickles cop five days ago.
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I think I was there when you said it.
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I'm not staying out of this one.
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There's no way.
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I should not say that.
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Pasha.
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You said it.
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You might have had a couple in you, but you said it.
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I have one drink at Chickles cop.
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I didn't have one drop out.
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Oh, here we go.
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I don't remember him saying it.
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The tie is turning.
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We got Pasha stuff and went in a locker now.
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This is fucking nuts.
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I would never say that.
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You didn't say it.
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You think this kid, you know,
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when people black out and rage and then they don't know of no cool.
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What happened?
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You know, talking about the devils.
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This kid just, he turns into a mutant.
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And then at the end, you're like, dude, why is your shirt ripped?
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And you have a cut over your eye.
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Oh, it's talking about the devils.
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Do you think that it's just going to be hard for them to move off of Dougie?
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And if, like, should they not do it sooner rather than later?
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Would that create a little bit of like, I want to say a riff,
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but doesn't it make it uncomfortable?
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Where like, if Dougie's not playing top PP unit,
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like how useful is he at the money that he's making?
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Like he's making the same amount as Luke now.
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I agree with that.
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I do think it's risky because I think the long term plan is to have
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Nemitz fill that, like, that that right handed D-man shoes.
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And I think like, it's a risk.
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I think if they trade Dougie today, it'll hurt them for this season,
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but big picture will help them.
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But I think like, Dougie still brings value
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that right handed puck moving D.
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You know, I think they want to see, okay,
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like, can Nemitz continue to show what he showed in the playoffs last year?
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And if he does, you know, maybe they dish Dougie at some point during the year.
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But I do think like this and Dougie today would,
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would cause a little slight step back for a longer term step forward type of.
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Would you be willing to do so if Nemitz takes that step
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throughout the course of maybe half a year where you can maybe get something
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in nice and return for, for like upfront?
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Like, yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Where would you, where would you like to add on this team if you can get off of Dougie?
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Elite Top 6 winner, for sure.
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They need like a talk, a Raquel, a McCann.
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They need like an elite guy that can just put the puck in the net.
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So your dream would be to throw the absolute bag at Kyle Connor.
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Uh, I don't think that'll ever happen.
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But yeah, like that kind of guy, I mean,
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ideally a guy with a little more size like talk.
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I'm trying to think of like a guy coming up at least.
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40 goals.
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I mean, I know Conner's not a big guy.
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I feel like he's a big game player and he ain't shy in a way.
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Well, I've a, I've a deli not a big enough game player to play the gold medal game for
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US to put a writer in over him.
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But that's a story for another.
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I'm sure you were cheering when Canada lost at the world,
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juniors in Chicago with.
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So now like what, what, what side do you want?
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Oh my god.
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What is that?
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This is getting.
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What do you mean?
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You're chirping US, you're chirping Canada.
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Like what, what, what do you know?
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I'm chirping the, I'm chirping the US management decision to scratch a 40 goal score and
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favor Chris Prider in a series in the tournament.
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They need offense.
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All right.
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But that's a different rabbit hole.
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So basically, uh, but back to your, your wishes for the devils as they get this guy locked
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up and you're saying now window began like windows.
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It was creeped open.
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You told me the last two years.
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Now it's open.
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So you would want like Tom Wilson as a winger for the top six.
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Like that's what you'd want.
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That's your dream.
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I would, yeah, I would love Tom Wilson, but you know, he's talking like size.
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I'm trying to think what you want here.
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Trying to think I think like talk like talk or one of those got like a big body.
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That's a sniper like, you know, they don't grow on trees, but I think that's kind of what they need.
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And also a 3c.
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I see Grinnell in the chat should trade for Geno.
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One of my favorite players of all time.
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I would love to see Geno slot in as a 3c there behind he's sure in Hughes.
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In order for them to win a cop, they need top six winger and a third line center.
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This guy's telling me he never said that about Luke over Quinn.
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And then he's also putting Malcolm.
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He's putting Malcolm on the fuck it doubles.
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I would say I would say you more need like I would say you more need like a like a Nick Paul.
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Is yeah, or like Ryan O'Reilly.
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I could tell I know they're interested in O'Reilly last year.
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I could see, you know, O'Reilly being their third c pick up off with through the year.
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But I never said Luke will be as good as Quinn.
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That's an absurdly high bar.
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That's tough.
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That's tough.
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I think Luke will be elite elite elites like one of the top puck Wimidim and the Lee.
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But Quinn is like entering like best defense.
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Now, has a brother has a brother has ever finished top three in Norris voting.
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That's a good question.
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I would be shocked if that happened.
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No way.
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Okay, hey, hey, would you be willing to put a bet with Whit and then we could talk about what it would be
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that at some point in their careers, they both finished in the top three.
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I'm certainly open to entertaining that conversation.
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Yeah.
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Well, this it's actually an incredible segue talking about bets.
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You know, Jack Hughes didn't get the hundred points and he's still owes me, but it's fine.
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We just have it running.
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I don't need to collect to this guy.
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I don't want to try to like.
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I know where this is going.
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So I'm going to hold it.
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Crack, crack, crack.
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Yes, there's another bet.
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There's a $5,000 bet.
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Quack, Quack, Mr. Ducksworth, the Anaheim Ducks,
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when it's Stanley Cup before the New Jersey Devils and the Anaheim Ducks locked up their stud,
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smooth skate and tall lefty defenseman with the same exact deal, right?
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$9 million a year for eight years, Jackson LeComb, the man that just playing on a bad team out West,
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no one's talking about the ducks to pass for years.
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And all of a sudden, it was like, it was like every two months, you'd start seeing a
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couple more articles about LeComb.
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And then by the end of last year, everyone's like, this kids must watch.
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And we talked, we talked today with our guy we interviewed, Matthew Nies.
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He will be on later.
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We talked about them.
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They played at Minnesota together.
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And he's telling us that this guy's faster than he is on the ice.
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So make sense that this deal gets done.
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And Posh, I had described to him like, I kind of like LeComb a little bit more than Luke Hughes.
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We were battling even a little older, isn't he?
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I mean, he is a little older.
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I knew you'd bring that up.
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I've got their under the hood stats in front of me.
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And yes, offensively Luke Hughes was better last year, but defensively LeComb was miles
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better, but like, uh, business at his two years older.
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So kind of hard to compare because, you know, one year for a young demon like that is just
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is very true.
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It's like a change, but very true.
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LeComb's game, I think it's a great contract for him.
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And the ducks have a very bright future, Ryan.
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And I think the biggest takeaway from Nies is just how much he competes, right?
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And he was with them at the University of Minnesota.
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And we talk about development, right?
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And sometimes these kids, you know, they go to college two years and then they sign the ticket
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and they're out of there where this guy ended up developing all four years at the University
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of Minnesota.
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So I don't know necessarily if he came in as this offensive player, but as he, you know,
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he, as he like developed his game and he was solid defensively, it seems as if though
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it progressed at Minnesota, he took on more offensively where you look at his numbers
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in his fourth year at Minnesota, that's kind of the guy you're seeing pan out with the Anaheim
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ducks.
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I mean, 14 goals last year, he six to two, 10, probably even bigger this year, probably put on
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even more muscle.
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Now that he's 24 heading into this, I mean, what's going to be a big year for him making
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all that bread.
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But when you are, when you have those types of numbers and when you're that dominant,
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when your team is young and not really that relevant, that tells me a lot.
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And I, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a team with a, a healthier, young core
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than what the Anaheim ducks got cooking right now.
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And it's led by him on the back end.
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They got the, the Russian kid.
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I always,
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Midna cough.
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Midna cough.
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How do you say it?
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Zellwigger.
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Avalmintnickov.
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Midna cough.
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They got Zellwigger.
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So you got three young stods on the point.
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And then they're also loaded up front.
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I mean, go Che.
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They got Carlson.
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Zellwigger.
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They got Carlson.
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Zellwigger.
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You went third overall where you got, they are, they are just so, so healthy and all.
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He's busy.
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I think he is like kind of nervous about this.
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And, and you laughed at me at the beginning of the bat.
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And now I could see you're like, fuck like this.
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These, these names are getting listed.
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I don't think it's as crazy, but bad as you thought it was.
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Never said it was crazy.
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I would say that like, it's the best team that you could possibly have in terms of like
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a young upcoming team to have that.
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I pick winners.
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I'm a winner picker.
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You got to be the one about me.
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You picked the Rangers over the Devils and the playoffs the other year.
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So I mean, whether we're talking Ryder Cup, Stranglers doesn't matter.
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I pick winners, Pasha.
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So I'm cold in life.
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Unless it's against you against you, I seem to have phenomenal luck.
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So let me ask you this, winner.
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Are you, are you walking back your comment about Lane Hudson not being invited to the
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US development thing and then Jackson, LeComb being invited?
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That's not a name I should have listed when describing people that were invited over
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him leads me into another kind of not storyline, but Lane Hudson because he's the guy that
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could have resigned that we heard about for a long time.
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And I know Montreal, if they said eight years at 9 million a year, it would have been accepted.
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And they, they, they dragged their feet.
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Now how can you take less than those two guys after what he just did?
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Uh, I think that you're talking.
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Okay, it's, if he again, if he gets 60 more points this year, how are you taking less
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than those guys?
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Yeah, but I, but I, I think that like if you, if you're looking for a more well-rounded
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defenseman, I think you're taking Jackson, LeComb every day of the week.
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I, I understand that he drives traffic.
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Like he's kind of more of like a Quinn Hughes.
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But I also think that Quinn Hughes is a little bit more rounded defensively.
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Like like, and I'm not taking away.
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And we're going to be talking to Eric Engels later on about Montreal and what he seems
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from him, especially in his second camp, right?
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Because he's probably been watching him under his Microsoft where like, are you, are you
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telling me that that Montreal has, has offered that eight, that eight year deal at nine
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million dollars?
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I know it would have been, it would have been, except you think he would have signed that.
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Yeah.
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I, I, I think that they're dumb if they haven't offered him what those two guys just signed
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for. And maybe he's, maybe he's looking at it.
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Like, like you just talked about how now they're projecting it to go to 113 and then 120
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where he's saying, no, I'm just going to, I know I'm getting those reps and I know I'm
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going to be playing PP1.
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So I'm just going to put up 65, 70 points, especially for how good, young and talented
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Montreal is.
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And you could add another two million to that next summer.
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So my only thing is, is, I'm a conservative guy, right?
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But these guys are tapped.
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When you're fucking at the blue line and your last man back and you're fucking doing
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the headfakes and juking guys, you're, you're built different mentally, physically.
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So he's probably like, no, I don't even want that deal.
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I just want to play another year and then fucking bend him over for more dough.
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The same, probably the same way Bidadd's looking at it.
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Like I would be shocked if Bidadd wasn't offered 10 million in that last year.
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He didn't even have that good of a year.
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He's probably looking at like, no, the cap's going to go up as much as it is.
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I'm going to have a better year and then all of a sudden Bidadd's looking at 1213 year.
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So for Lane Hudson to wait another year and not care about signing what Luke Hughes
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and Jackson, the comb just got, he's probably going to make himself another 15 million bucks.
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I, that's what I think.
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Yeah, he could.
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So it's just, I mean, I, yeah, I guess you could argue that that look home is much more
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well-rounded than Lane Hudson, but when you look at that first year and what you think's coming
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again based on being a rookie last year, it's only going to get better than I would
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offer the eight times nine.
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So you said that as long as you could.
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And you also got to think if let's say Lane Hudson has a sophomore slump, like he'd probably
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still get offered that deal.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, and that's like 20 points or something.
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You know, something just crazy happens, but I don't picture it.
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The last news, I guess late signing was Luke of Angelista, $3 million a year for two years.
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What the fuck took so long?
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If my business, if us three were in and I get you got, you got a scratch and claw for every penny
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on both sides, trying to build a competitive team.
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You got to use every dollar that has to be well spent.
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Us three, could we not have just been like, yeah, two times three dude, you're good.
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Here we go.
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In July.
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Yeah.
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I would imagine though, like I think that Trots is a little bit like he's, he seems like he's
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all fired up.
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He gets very testy with the media too.
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I'd be curious to know what he's like to negotiate with.
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And then probably wants to be a little bit more conservative after handing over those deals
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to Stamcoes in March of so and then last year, panning out the way that it did.
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So, yeah, don't understand what took so long.
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Consolation prize though, he did get voted best looking athlete in Nashville.
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I think Pastor Leo sees on his team, which is that's up for debate too, right?
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So he gets that nom at norm, but doesn't get the probably the contract that he wanted.
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Hey man, bridge deal here and let's see what he can do.
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My only thing is he must have been asking for like a four, five, six year deal and they
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were like, no, and then they settled on two.
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But like you said, there should have been done July 2nd.
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Like, oh, I missed training camp.
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What'd you get?
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Two times three.
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Great deal for, you know, six million bucks, but it's just crazy.
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It's all camp.
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Keith, we can ask you about this guy.
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I've witnessed him firsthand just dominate.
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Uh, me.
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Signs in Florida and maybe the two craziest preseason games since like the 1970s were played
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between Florida and Tampa.
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Mikola was a part of it in one of the weirdest scenarios I've ever seen.
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We'll get into it, but he signs a big extension.
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Eight years, five million bucks a year, 40 million.
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The guy's been a horse since he came over.
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Are you surprised?
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Are you happy with the number?
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Yeah, happy with both sides.
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I think he's happy.
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I think the team's happy.
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I know they love him here.
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He, uh, you know, brings that size and and skating ability on the back end.
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Him and Seth Jones last year were great.
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They'll be great again this year.
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But I think he's just one of those guys that you know what he's going to bring every single night.
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What is army called the condor?
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Like he's just in the way all the time.
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I think his offensive ability, like watch him in preseason this year.
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It looks like his offensive ability is starting to come out a little bit more.
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Whether or not he does that in the regular season, who knows he's not getting paid for that.
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He's getting paid to shut down these big, these big lines.
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He's done a great job with it.
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Obviously winning cops, but I think it's a great deal for both sides.
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But I honestly think like his ceiling hasn't even been touched.
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Like he's, I think he's got more to offer.
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And maybe you look back at it in a few years and say it's a, you know, hometown discount.
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But it's also too like you think what three, four, five years ago when he was in St. Louis
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in the New York, like if they offered him a eight year, one million a year deal,
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he probably would have taken it.
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But so now it's like good for him.
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He's got his security.
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Love's playing here.
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I'm sure.
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So all around very happy with that from both sides.
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I agree with you.
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Upside on the offensive side of the pocket is what kind of stood out to me,
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especially during that cup run.
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I think a lot of that derives for Maurice, given him the green light.
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And it's still in confidence in it.
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You saw the one, I remember the one goal where he just got shot out of a can.
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And and jumped up in the play in the rush.
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And like you said, yeah, it's going back a few years ago with like St. Louis and New York.
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Would you have ever seen that out of him?
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He's probably being told by coaches, hang back, let your other partner go up.
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And if he gets caught, he gets caught.
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You take the two on one and simplify your game.
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So a hell of a deal.
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He's a force out there.
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And I think that majority, if not every single team, the league, he's in their top four.
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And you can't replicate that size, that length and how quickly.
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And also, is skating ability and how he's able to close on guys so quickly.
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I want to say they have what now?
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11 players walked in through 2030 at this point.
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Looking at it because they have five guys.
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They have at least five years more of Parkoff, Kachok, Reinhardt, Bennett, Verhagy,
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Marshan, Lundell, two more years of Luster Ryan and Seth Jones,
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Eckblad, Forsling and Mikola all for the next five years.
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By the way, their highest paid defense with Seth Jones, $7 million caps.
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But bit, bit, think of him on the pk, like Mikola on the pk, like he's such a disruptor.
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Like his stick is always in the way.
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It's so hard to get in the zone.
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Like those little things that you, you know, most people don't see during the game that just
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it pisses off other teams when you can't get in the zone cleanly.
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You can't get good shots on net.
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Like that adds so much to a team and what he's brought to this group.
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I think like since he's been here has been probably understated just because of, you know,
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what, you know, the other guys around here, but he's been an amazing key part of this team.
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He's the guy where you do the one-on-ones in practice where you're just crossing over the,
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the first blue line and he's at the red line and then he's stuck on Pock and you're like,
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what the fuck man, I don't think he'll do this drill.
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Like this bullshit.
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Yeah.
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Fuck you.
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He's got the, it feels like he's got the, the go-go gadget extender stick.
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But yeah, there was actually no better feeling than breaking up before it in practice early.
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It gets so loud and I did it like three times ten years.
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And we're, but we are going to dive into Florida or I believe maybe Tampa first or Florida as far
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as our season previews.
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You talked about their, their highest paid defenseman being Seth Jones.
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Their smallest defenseman is, is who?
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First link.
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No, cool.
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Yeah, cool look.
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Off and, and, and four is like a bolt six one.
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And how big is cool look off?
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They're both six one ones two 10 ones two 15.
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Like come on.
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Yeah.
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And the other guys are fucking giraffes out there.
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So they got, they just have so much size and yet mobility and take time and space away where
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this is going to be a force to be wrecking, wrecking with like people, people obviously you can't
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replace barcove and, and they will struggle a little bit with his absence, but I don't think
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as much as people think.
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And you know that they're gonna have other guys.
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Even this year, even like somehow this year, whatever they get knocked out in the first round.
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It's like, well, we still got plenty more time to get a couple more of those.
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Like they're just not going anywhere.
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Now, getting into the games.
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I don't know what, I don't know what happened.
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I don't know what I witnessed, but it was incredible.
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Like I haven't seen hatred like that in a preseason game in my life.
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And it all began when AJ Greer, I think it was Friday or Thursday night.
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Yeah.
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He, I don't know really why he did it.
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Like he kind of bundled Hegel, then hit him with his stick.
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I don't know if it looked on purpose, whatever you can argue that.
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So Hegel's like kind of wounded and looks at him.
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Then he just suckers him twice.
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Now, I think Florida's just beat the shit out of everyone for so long that going into the game
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on Saturday.
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I don't know what was said in the locker room, but it began with a full on
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malling of Aaron Eckblad.
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Saber and Gozen straight like I assume he's getting suspended for that.
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Eckblad looked injured and then it turned into a point where there was three guys on the bench
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remaining for both teams.
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It's kind of weird.
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Like you don't want to see people get injured.
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Eckblad could be injured.
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Hegel could have easily been injured with the thing with Greer,
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but talk about hating each other.
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Like imagine the first regular season game these guys have this season.
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I wish they were starting off the season against each other instead of
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until like November 18th or something.
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Yeah, I think it's.
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Let it.
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Let it.
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Let it.
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Let it.
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Florida.
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Yeah, I think that Saber and Guy wit was already sent down to the minor or yeah,
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to the miners and they called them back up to play in this game.
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Like they were just like we're bringing in some meat.
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Pretty sure that.
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They called their cup team when we won in Manchester.
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He's a nail gone.
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He's a lefty.
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And yeah, enormous.
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Yeah, he's a big he's probably about yeah, like six one six two.
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And he just throws though.
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Like you know, those guys where they're like every every fiber of their being is being thrown
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in their punch where they're not aiming to hit in the nose.
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They're aiming to put their fists through the back of your head.
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That's how he chucks them now.
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The Eckblad thing.
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I would imagine that maybe is stemming from the way that he he hit
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a Hagle in playoffs and him knowing exactly what his role is saying.
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Well, if I do this and I go after Eckblad, this is going to be I mean,
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I'm probably getting called up for that November date.
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That's just more NHL salary in my pocket.
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So that's probably what's going on in his head and and rightfully so and the way that
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after he hit him clean, it was weird how he just went over and attacked him.
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But I would just imagine it was because of the Hagle situation and him knowing that
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it's probably going to benefit him financially to invest himself in this rivalry,
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even though he wasn't on the team last year.
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So this is this is not going to go away.
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This is going to continue to be ugly and get probably even uglier.
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And listen, this is what this is what I wanted.
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This is what a lot of hockey fans wanted.
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Like we talk about preseason.
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Nobody really emotionally invested and boring hockey.
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Well, that was not.
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And I want I like my hockey with a little bit of violence.
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I'm sorry.
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I don't want to just see fucking toe drags.
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And you say you even saw the other night with fetching a cop thinking preseason.
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I can kind of just twiddly do twiddly dumb.
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No, well, you're going to get fucking rocked if that's the case.
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So I think that the NHL is in a perfect spot of blended of violence and skill.
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And we're hitting just the start of a new unbelievable era of hockey.
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That's where I'm at.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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More violence.
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I don't I don't love it.
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You know, first week of October when the when the regular season hasn't started.
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Just because you don't want to see guys get hurt for regular.
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No, I don't want to see anybody get hurt.
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I want to see them punch each other's head in though.
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Yeah, you're saying in what you want injuries occur.
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That's just the fact like it.
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And I agree with you like that hockey.
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It's just better to watch.
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There's just there's just so much more intent.
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It makes like watching it that much better.
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But I'll admit like yeah, like injuries are going to come of that.
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That's just part of the game.
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That's always been part of the game.
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And that's why I actually like playing with your head up so important.
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Now both of those instances is kind of nothing you can do.
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Like I mean,
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Eckbad went to kind of stand him up.
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And he got the better of him.
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And then he's like, I'm going I'm going in for more.
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Saber and that is.
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So it did it did like get the juices flowing.
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I'm seeing the clips on my phone.
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I'm like, what is going on down there?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But I mean,
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why to get in the way of what why these guys hate each other?
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I'm just there with the fucking popcorn and ready to watch entertainment.
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Like that's just me.
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The one that like it's it's true hatred, right?
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They're both, you know, same state teams.
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Like they both been at the top the last, you know, 10 years,
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seven years.
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Like there's hatred there with these two groups.
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And you know, I think I think Tampa is looking at their year,
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especially with Barkov and Matthew being old for a while.
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Like this is our year to maybe get back on the top and in South Florida.
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But I don't think Florida is going to be a easy push over.
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And you know, they're going to come with some jam too.
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Did you see Matthew Samuskavic's interview on the bench?
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He was like, yeah, we're just going to win games and play hockey
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and and basically those idiots over there just going to kind of try to stir it up.
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And that's really the only way they can try to get to us.
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So I was like, okay, let's go, baby.
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Well, part of it is to like Florida embarrassed them in the first round last year.
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And everyone thought we were going to see one of the best series of our lives.
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There's five games.
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So it's like not only are they the two time defending champs and then they've owned you.
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And I mean, you had the act-blad head on Hagle.
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You had the Kachak hit on Gensel.
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They just they dominated them not only physically, but on the scoreboard as well.
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So I'm interested to see what this Samuskavic can do.
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I think that you know, I don't know.
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Last year you played 70 games.
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Did didn't play a ton in playoffs, right?
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The only one was it.
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I think it four games played in playoffs.
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I think that he's one of those guys that is going to take the next step.
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Just what everybody else needs.
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Another guy popping off of the Florida Panthers and probably signing a team friendly deal.
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Guys, we're talking about the best on ice rivalries in the NHL.
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I think it's time to bring in someone who is a part of the best off ice rivalry in the NHL,
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which is Biz vs. Will Seize.
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Give me a big, big, big, big, big, Seize.
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He called them little Seize.
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Oh, the disfers, but he's not.
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He's a son of a, I don't know.
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I had him say that.
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I thought we were homies, Abra.
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How you been, buddy?
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I'm doing fantastic.
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Man, you must be fucking exhausted.
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He's fucking here.
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Oh, yeah.
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When you had the game last night, Seize?
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No, I actually had to work unfortunately, but I actually had the game in the background.
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As I was talking to customers, I had to hold back so many times because I was so stacked up.
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No, it's crazy because I ended up meeting up with the AJ Greer the night before.
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He's like, he's all ready for the season.
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We're all ready for the season.
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Man, it's going to be exciting.
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It's going to suck that not having barcov.
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Obviously, we can't replace him, but I think we got the depth and I think the players,
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we definitely have the attitude and the grit on the team.
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And Matthew Kuchuk, he's going to be back.
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So we're wearing good hands.
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Seize, do you care at all where you finish?
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Or is it just what I've kind of been saying?
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Like they're all figuring, just get in.
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It doesn't matter.
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In years past, I think you want home ice advantage, but I don't think
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players nowadays really care, especially with this Panther group.
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But they're just so tight knit together and they really don't care where they play.
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They could either play in Toronto.
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They could play in Carolina.
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We saw it last year.
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We saw Tampa Bay too.
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They had home ice advantage.
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It doesn't really matter because we know we have the guys to get us to where we want to be.
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So yeah, I don't think it really matters.
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Who are you most excited to see as far as a guy taking the next step?
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We were just talking about that Samus Gavitch kid.
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Yeah.
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Is that one guy that you guys are excited about?
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Because I feel like the roster is basically the same.
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The other big ad who could help, kind of like they've done in years past with
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who's the kid last year who started as a Schmidt.
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They always seem to take a defenseman and they got a P-tree.
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I was going to say I think P-tree is going to be a key to our power play.
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I don't know if you guys remember a couple of years ago when he was in Montreal.
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We had like a career year there, right?
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So I think he could take the next step and he doesn't have to be the main guy, right?
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So we got Seth Jones in the back.
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We got Aaron Ecklady walked up for another six years.
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Four years, I think, right?
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So I mean, they got everybody coming back except for NationMit.
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And honestly, that defense, of course, just they're dangerous man.
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If everybody can stay healthy, knock on wood,
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I really like our way the defense is set up this year.
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See, the projected point total is 105 and a half.
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Only nine teams got 100 points last year.
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Usually there's some more that reach that point.
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Would you take the over the under?
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That having barcloth this year and now to check Smith's in a few months.
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I wouldn't be surprised if we're under.
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But like you guys said, I mean, I really don't think it matters where we how many points we have
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because we've seen how many times in the last couple of years,
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the team with the most points don't end up getting to the standard cup.
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So how much do we really want that?
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Honestly, as long as we get into the playoffs, that's all that really matters, you know?
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So as long as we stay healthy and then we get
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could chuck back healthy and who knows?
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Sasha really wants to come back and if anybody could come back for the playoffs,
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it probably would be him just the way he works hard and the way he's determined to
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to help this team, I wouldn't be surprised if that happens.
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Well, big, big don't call him little C's.
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Thanks for hopping on, buddy.
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Well, did you have a question there, Ian?
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Did you have one?
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I was just going to ask, I know they got the ring ceremony and the banner raising.
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I didn't know if are you getting a ring or are you going to be at the game?
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Obviously, you're going to be at the game.
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I don't think I'm getting a ring.
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I haven't been told, but I am going to be hanging out with Matthew on Wednesday,
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here at Kingswear and Florida.
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And then we just got a whole bunch of events down here that we're going to be doing.
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I don't know if you guys heard of bare knuckles ice wars.
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It's basically, it's such a badass event.
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Chris Tarion, former Phil Lelke Flyer hit me up and he's like,
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C's, we got this bare ice, uh,
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I bare knuckle ice wars that we're doing.
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We're coming to Amherst Arena on Friday, October the 10th.
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And it's basically MMA fighting on skates.
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Okay.
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You fight bizz.
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As long as he's in a wheelchair with me.
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You're fucking so.
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Let's go.
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I think that'd be a great event.
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That fucking place out.
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Oh, that's the last thing.
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I mean, I've been taking it up.
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L's lately.
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I don't need fucking big C's fucking dummy in me.
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What is it?
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Bare knuckle ice wars.
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Yes.
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Bare knuckle.
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Yeah.
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I was like, this is career's documentary name.
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Yep.
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Since we have you, I was going to ask you about this rivalry with the Tampa Bay Lightning.
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Do you, you see it continuing to evolve?
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And they didn't really do kind of like you guys.
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They didn't weren't able to do much this off season because they pretty much have their group set.
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Do they scare you at all?
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Do you feel like maybe they'll have the advantage this year, especially with no bark off,
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considering how they deep they are in the middle of the ice?
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They might have the advantage during the regular season,
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but let's see what happens in the playoffs.
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If Sasha ends up being coming back towards the playoffs,
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you know, or for healthy bark off.
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That could be dangerous.
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But let's not forget who do we have on our team that we ended up locking up for six or four years?
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The arch nemesis.
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The arch nemesis.
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Radmarshan.
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I mean, what a great addition and for him to stay here.
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Now I know I was hearing towards the end of the season, towards the playoffs.
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He was a third line guy, but I think they're going to ask a little bit more of him here in the
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beginning just because we are missing bark off.
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I mean, I think not just him, but a lot of the players.
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And like you said, there is Sam a sketch.
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I think he's going to take a big step forward.
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He's got a lot of offensive power.
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He's fast.
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He's gritty.
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And I think his two way ice, the way he plays two way is getting better and better every year.
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And we saw it towards the end of last year, too.
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Big C's, be honest.
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Do you think Marci's actually going to play six years?
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Are you think they're circumcising the cap?
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I mean,
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would you put it past him?
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I mean, the phone and youth, the youth he's in the sun every day down here.
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He might play eight more years.
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If anything, I'll lend him my wheelchair.
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I mean, do you, my chair, are you open to some form of punishment if he doesn't play all six
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years in order to circumcise the cap?
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Are you open to punishment?
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I mean, but don't players do that all the time?
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They retire early.
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I mean, are we going to punish every team that has a player that's going to retire early?
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Sure. He wouldn't retire.
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He wouldn't retire because he wouldn't get his money.
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Sure.
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If we end up winning two more Stanley cops, why not?
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If he, if he, you're basically, you're
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you're
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I'm going to put the punishing them if he retires.
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I would have left.
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I'd rather shock, crack, and ag on my head if he plays another six years.
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But I don't think it's happening.
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I think you guys circumcise the cap like you always do.
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It's right back to the no state tax.
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You guys just find ways to weasel your way into victory.
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But the cap is going up every year.
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I mean, you guys have enough room to make something happen.
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I mean, you guys weren't able to sign.
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We can't do it anymore.
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We can't throw anybody on LTIR.
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They already stopped that.
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I know.
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So I mean, now they got guys signing deals that they won't even end up playing out to get their
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fucking number underneath.
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Yeah.
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Well, you know, I've been saying they should have done that a long time ago,
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especially when Tampa wanted back then.
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So I don't really mind that because I thought that was kind of a disadvantage.
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So we just ended up playing the game here the last couple of years.
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And for them to take it away, it's okay.
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It doesn't matter.
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We still got the players out there.
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We still got Rodriguez.
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We still got Marcia and all those other guys.
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And don't forget about Anton Lundell.
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He's only what?
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24 years old.
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I mean, the kid is still young.
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The kid is still has a lot of juice.
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I mean, put Anton Lundell on any team.
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I can guarantee you he's the first line of second line center.
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Edmonton.
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Edmonton.
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I just put you in a spot to just dunk on me.
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You've owned me two years in a row.
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I just thought of what team they might not work.
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You still haven't, um, couldn't graduate like come to me and say hello.
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You were down here in South Florida.
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What do you mean?
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I'm still I'm yeah you.
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Didn't we see each other at game?
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No.
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I saw I came over and saw you.
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Yeah, this this was nice enough.
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I'm fucking got a season ticket this year for stuff.
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I'm in a locker.
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Either way, thank you.
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I really appreciate it.
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It a guys.
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Yeah.
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How many did they give you?
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They give you just the one or they get your pair.
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They got me the pair.
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So we really.
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I'm fucking right.
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That's fucking go.
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So what are you going to do with the other ticket?
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Are you going to like maybe like pay it forward and maybe bring some fans
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from your podcast?
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Like are you going to operate your extra ticket?
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Sell it make money like biz would do.
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No, I'm not that much of a douchebag.
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Okay, a fuck you.
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You fucking cap circumcised.
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Back take them back.
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Take this again.
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Don't you you piece of shit?
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Listen, I'll get my.
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I'm taking those tickets back.
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You want me to get my tits done?
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Oh, okay.
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Get back.
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See.
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It's getting big.
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Sees with big cities.
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Big C's great.
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See anybody.
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Great.
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He's on those fake titties once more.
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Yeah, I was going to get see a big C's.
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These are.
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God damn.
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You see big C's you're talking.
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Stanley Cup hockey and all of a sudden you're talking about him having fake
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breasts.
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That was just.
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He also said don't hate the player.
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Hate the game right to your face.
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Biz when talking about cap circumcision as you call it.
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Well,
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I'm very it should just to hear what you guys think of Tampa.
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That's the next team here.
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Well, let's make our prediction.
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Like I think you'd have to be a complete moron to not think that Florida will make playoffs.
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I actually see them.
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I see them given the fatigue given how strong the division is.
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As well as the conference.
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I could see them maybe only getting a wild card.
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But if I.
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Gun to my head.
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I'd probably say third place in the Atlantic for the Florida Panthers.
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So for sure, no brainer there in the playoffs.
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What about you guys?
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Yeah, obviously I got them in.
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I got them higher than a wild card just because the additions that they made
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talked about.
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Petri a little bit.
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He's been a number one guy.
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All their D besides probably cool.
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A call of a Ben and number one guy at some point.
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Maybe Mechla as well.
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But like those guys know what it takes.
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They're going to have to win from the back end out.
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Like Bob's going to be amazing like he has been fun little fact.
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The backup that they get to Terrasov.
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Is that how you say it?
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I don't know.
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So his dad Bob Bob's favorite.
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Golly growing up was Terrasov's dad.
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And then Terrasov's favorite.
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Golly growing up was Bob.
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So he's going to come in.
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He's going to be trying to impress his goal.
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He may trying to please he's been over in Europe the last few years.
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So I think he's going to from everything I've heard.
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He's had an amazing camp.
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He works his absolute nuts off.
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And he's going to be a guy too.
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Probably get more games than maybe another backup might get just because
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Bob's getting older.
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But I think he's going to not a lot of people talking about it.
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But I think he's going to have a great year.
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Just a lot of stuff to fight for for him, I think.
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And then just winning from the back end out there.
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Deer are built to win games.
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Their forwards will fill in.
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Like we said it all last year.
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Like that third line is a second line.
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This year they're going to be a second line to start the season.
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We'll see what they can do.
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But I got them in.
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I got them probably I got them higher than a wild car.
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But I got them in and making a good run as well.
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Yeah, obviously I have them in.
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Biz that's surprising.
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So you said maybe wild card.
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If not third in the division.
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That means you got Tampa and Toronto in front of them.
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That would be my own.
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I have.
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Yes, I have.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Correct.
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Yeah, so Florida.
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I got him in.
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I got him in.
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I got him being top three in the vision.
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I don't know where to say yet.
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I think Toronto's winning the division.
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I'm getting ahead of myself.
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But Biz Tampa Coops team.
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Yes.
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And it's just a coup.
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It wasn't announced.
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But he has signed an extension.
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I talked to him this summer.
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He did let me know and he's like, don't say anything on the pod.
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And he says don't say anything.
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Yeah, yeah.
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No, I do it for my friends.
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I stay loyal like that from my close buddies.
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Ones that don't call me busy.
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He and and have a fucking T-shirt of it on national television.
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Bang and then bang my face on the drum.
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But going back to Tampa, I think the biggest thing
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if they are going to finish in that second spot in the Atlantic,
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because we all know the leaves are taken the first spot is Vasylowski.
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Not the best game last night, letting it seven power play goals or six,
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whatever it was.
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But if he can get back to somewhat of his old ways
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with that back end that they have that back end is on the back nine.
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They're not exactly spring chickens anymore.
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But with Victor headman, McDonough, Ternac,
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Raddish, they got some big, big strong demon back.
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Lillaburg is a big kid too.
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Who's this? Sorry?
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Lillaburg.
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He's a big dude.
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And that JJ Moser was good.
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I like it.
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It was really good.
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Fucking nice, dude.
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He is nice.
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And they got him in that surrogate chev trade where obviously they had to get some money off
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the books in order to sign Gensel.
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But I just really, I think it's a sneaky back end.
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I don't think it's talked about enough.
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And then you look up front, man.
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Like right now, obviously they have Hegel listed on the IR.
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I'm sure he'll be back ready for puck drop.
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And then once Nick Paul at Third Line Center,
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like that is a fucking pretty lethal top nine forward group.
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And these guys all know how to play with one another.
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They know each other's tendencies.
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Their power play is absolutely filthy.
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Special teams really.
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So I just, this is a well oil machine.
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And I see a different result even come playoff time next year with this group.
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So I got him second in the Atlantic and a no brainer for Koop and the boys to make playoffs.
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When they were when they were like going to the cup finals and winning the Stanley Cup,
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it was their depth.
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Like Coleman, Pat Maroon at the top of his game, Yani Gord.
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So Yani Gord's back.
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Right?
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So it's almost like, hey, this guy, like he knows how to win.
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We know him.
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He comes back.
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Yeah, a few years older.
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But then Bjorks ran to I think he was hurting the playoffs, wasn't he?
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He's pretty good when he when they got him over from Seattle.
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So their third line and then listed right now playing with them is Connor geeky.
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So I don't know if you see the goalie had biz that's been a ramma.
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He's like highly skilled.
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He's enormous.
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He looks a little like he's not the smoothest skater.
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But I think has high end skills.
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So if he took a leap, I really like this team.
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I mean, I'll never pick him again against Florida and the playoffs.
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I just won't do it.
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I did it this year.
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I picked Tampa, but I still think they're easy.
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Yeah, they're top three in the division.
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And then also when you think of Colorado and Edmonton and Minnesota,
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like you think of McKinney and McDavid dryside,
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a freestyle like, there's also the Kutraov factor.
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Right?
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Like it's now we've just become so accustomed to 125 points.
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Like ridiculous highlight real plays every single night.
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And in the top three of MVP, it'll probably be no different this year.
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So I like the team.
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I can't believe that was a boss move.
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Just never announcing Koops extension.
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I kind of hilarious.
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I love it.
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Just flying over the radar.
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I know.
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But the fact one insider didn't get that news.
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It's great.
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I do agree with you on that depth comment as well.
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Like I think that they're pretty stacked like that.
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Homeberg who was in Toronto.
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Like I really like the way that he skates.
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Like him playing fourth line.
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I think that's a great slot for him.
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Yandy Gordel get bumped down when Nick Paul's in the mix.
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Bjorks ran like these like having those types of names in your bottom six
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with that top six forward group is lethal.
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I mean, Surrelli probably probably top 10 defensive centerman.
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So yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, he's a selky guy.
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We're like unreal 200 foot game.
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So they just I just look at this group and they're stacked.
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And even that Gurgensen kid is he's the one that was in Buffalo, I believe, for a while.
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He's a good penalty killer.
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You know, helps out with the intangibles.
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So I just don't see a lot of holes in this group when they're healthy.
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And it's kind of it's also like Florida too.
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It helps you when there's not a lot of turnover, especially from the core group, right?
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There's not a lot of like in and out in and out.
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They're just kind of filling in holes.
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So just two two healthy teams in South Florida ready to fucking beat the wheels off one another.
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Yeah, and big thing to like I think Chernak and and McDonough, one of the best shutdown
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pairs in the league and you know, in that division, you have to have guys like that to shut down
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those, you know, the big guns in the in the catlantic. But yeah, like you said, like
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Brayton, what's a kutrov is one of four players to record 80 plus assists in three straight
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season. He would join Gretzky, coffee and ore.
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Coffee and ore streaks stopped after three years. So he's looking to do it for the fourth time,
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which only Gretzky is done, which is insane. Guess how many times Gretzky did it?
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12 13. But it's like to get 80 assists every year. This guy, and you know, we've had
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guys on. They talk about the way he works on his craft and getting pucks off the wall and making
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passes like he's putting in the work every year. You know, he's going to bring it every year,
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being the MVP conversation. And especially watching those last two preseason games, they look
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like they are pissed off that they are thrown has been taken and they want to get back on the top.
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And, you know, I think that I honestly think they're going to win the Atlantic this year. So
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already biz. I don't think Toronto's going to do it. So I think they're going to be a hell of a
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team this year and, you know, led by led by kutrov point and then the two studs in the back
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and headman to headman looking to have another 60 point season. Like he was a stud last year.
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Like not even talked about that much. But in all those guys too, besides, you know, kutrov,
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like those guys are fighting to be on the Olympic teams. They're fighting to, I mean, a lot of them
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are shoewinds, but like they're looking to prove themselves in the beginning of the year. Get off
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to good start. So it'll be a fun fun fun start to watch those guys and in Vazzy Keckin as well.
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And they have the, just like the sneakiest assassin in Jake Gensel, like the guy is just an absolute
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gamer. The bigger the game is the better he plays. So all of us have one Pittsburgh wouldn't sign him
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for eight times nine. Yeah, that's one. And now they now they're now they're sending graves down
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on that deal that they sign him to. Yeah. That is six year deal. That's a five. Yeah, I believe
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like five or six years. That's so far. So another as much as I wanted to put dubious back in the
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good books for the good deedy, do with flour and bringing the band back together. Now he takes
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another L. Well, we could talk, but we could talk now about a team who's taken L since 1967.
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That's Toronto Maple Leafs in Bisman. Say something to you. I think the bet of the year in NHL
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futures on draft Kings is the Toronto Maple Leafs over 99 and a half points. I think they're an
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absolute wagon. And I don't even hate the 19 to one odds to win the Stanley Cup when you're
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talking about value. To hell of a squalfish. No, I'm not messing but it's deep. It's heavier.
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It's great. Don't love the D, but they're not bad. You don't love the D. I don't love the D.
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Haven't had change over at least they're still the same guys. Like every year, it's like we need
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we need different. They at least have the same group. And Morgan Riley's lost a little bit of weight.
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He looks unbelievable right now. And he I believe is their highest paid defenseman. He's only
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making seven million. That's the one knock you could say about the Leafs is they don't have a true
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number one back there. But I just love how it's been distributed like the not only the money,
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but the ice, right? You got 10F unreal shutdown guy, one of the best in the league. I like the way
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that Ben was evolved. He plays a heavier physical game. I'm a cab like I love him. So you just need
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them. Those guys to hold the fort back there. And I kind of said what I had to say as far as my
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peace last podcast about guys buying in lock and install ours. The one thing that does scare me
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a little bit is the fact that I don't know when wool's going to be back. And I feel that they do
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a good job of splitting the net to leave. Leave it a little bit of pressure off of
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stallars and not having to play him so much. I think that the boys will battle their cocks off for
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Rimer. It was crazy. That too. It was over 3500 days since Rimer had played a game for that, right?
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Oh yeah. He's there so long. Yeah. It was a bit over 3500 days. And as they got beat by Detroit,
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the other night, he let that one in overtime. But I just like I said, I love this group. I think
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that they're built better than last year. And I think they're poised to win the Atlantic and go
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on a run to the Stanley Cup finals. That's it. Like I don't need to give the double wristers out.
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I said my peace last pod. If you want to listen to it, go and also I always get to like, oh,
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this much time of leaf chatter. We can fucking move on to our unbelievable interview with Matthew
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Nies. I don't give a fuck. I've already said what I got to say to a leafy triggered about the
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least. I haven't played a game yet this year. Keith. I fucking triggered. Yeah, I'm just I'm
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defending our chat. Yeah, he gave you a compliment and you're yelling at him. No, no, I'm not talking
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to him. I'm talking to the fucking 80. You're talking to the voices inside your head.
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Who's talk about the Leafs? Actually, to be quite frank, we didn't talk fucking at all last season
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about the Leafs during the year. You did on TNT. That's it. What do you what maybe when they were on
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the broadcast and I had to or I think it was more the candles and the Leafs like that might have
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added to the displeasure. I don't talk about them until it's playoff time. When it's playoff time,
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now we're playing for keeps. That's when I'm going to chime in and be my obnoxious idiot leaf
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fandom guy. Okay. And that's fine. And I deserve to do that just like Yanz was for the fucking Florida
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Panthers, the Cat Lanark. Could you imagine me calling the the the Leaf Atlantic? Well, they
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imagine the the uproar on this podcast if I said that. I could. And they wanted to
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I. Biz right now they got they got Don't Me and knives with Matthews, whether that stays
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in our but I actually loved that line. Like I think I don't think he's going to lose value
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in points and goals and stuff like those guys are going to get him the pop like he needs guys like
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that. As far as who we talked about Matthews. What's it? Don't me just kind of get on the
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forecheck and he's going to make sure he gets the puck, right? And then and then knives is going to
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go to the front of the net. So you have a perfect mix of everything. If you need a guy who's going to
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be able to make more plays and maybe better off with zone entries in rushes and has a little
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bit more skill offensively. You're looking at Matthias Michele, but the fact that you can kind of
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mix them up and down the lineup. It's great. Let's see who has the most chemistry and and let him
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roll, baby. But you know, what do you guys think about the Leafs? I like their squad dude this
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year. I think they're nice. I think it could be a little awkward getting used to not have a
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Neelander set in like for Matthews that could be weird. The power clip power power play might
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maybe take a little longer to get going. But these are just guesses. Just it is a big loss. You
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lose one in your top, you know, three offensive players that is like a game breaker. I think it
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could be a little different. But Nyes is going to take a probably another step. And Neelander's
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unincredible. Matthews is probably going to pop off this year. If he's able to stay healthy, like
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the noise of his game not being with McDavid and Matthew. I mean, it's you, McDavid and McKinnon.
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I think that they still have so much firepower there that with the depth and like,
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Waw and Joshua, they're really well-rounded team. When I said the D, I don't love. I think
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Florida has three guys that be the number one on Toronto. So you go ahead to head. But they took
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them to seven. They were the only team to take them to seven. And they were up to oh. So
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they have a very good team. I think I think a lot of people also get wrapped up in Matthews
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returning to like the, you know, the 69 goal cat like at top echelon goal, top echelon goal score.
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He is coming and healthy. I mean, last year the back was if I think it was nagging him and bothering
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him. I'm not so concerned about him scoring 60 65 goals. Like I personally don't give a fuck.
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As long as he stays healthy, the ice times being distributed perfectly and he's playing a great
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200 foot game. If he has 35 40 goals, I'm happy. So everyone's just like, oh, what's wrong with him?
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What's wrong with him? It's like, man, he's not going to score at a fucking 70 goal clip every season.
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I care about him playing like on Zaykopatar. I've carried him up playing like Sasha Barkov. That's
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all he gives a fuck about. So people need to stop worrying about him, you know, although he still
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is on a better pace to beat Alex O'Manders, Alexander Ovechkin's record. But I mentioned that.
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I mentioned that last pod. I still think that there's a lot more things to his game that are just
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as important as him putting the puck of that. Okay. And I'll say if he does what you're talking about
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staying healthy, being the most important and just playing well-rounded hockey, I think the minimum
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he would get is 45 goals. Like he's that good. He's still going to get 90 to 105 points with over 40 goals.
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So the guys of machine, yeah, I think that's the perfect time to throw it to our interview.
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Matthew Nies and I know sometimes current players, they're just, they're younger. They don't have
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a ton to say. Like they're not going to really like have, I'd say the chillest conversations,
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just because they're worried about what they what they may say and Nies wasn't like that at all.
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I think he really opened up with us. I think it's right around an hour. Great dude. And
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talking to him was a blast. So I'm a big fan. I think everyone will be after listening to this.
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Matthew Nies.
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right now. Welcome now to a very special guest. Calm down, biz calm down. Yes, we have a Toronto
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May beliefs star forward who just signed a 46 and a half million dollar hometown discount you
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nice. What's going on? I'm doing well. How are you guys? We're great. And I guess we're curious.
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I mean, camps going now, buddy. How excited are you for this season? It's been a crazy kind of
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off season for the leaves. Mariner's gone, but it must be nice just like back on the ice with the
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boys and everything's going now. Yeah, I mean, it was first day of training camp today.
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Yeah, everyone's really fired up to be back. See some new faces in the locker room.
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Yeah, it's really cool to be back. Which chief saying he didn't want the core four language
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anymore. We're throwing that out the window. We're actually hand that over to Whits team.
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They got the new core four. Yeah, I mean, he was just saying how competitive camp was, you know,
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I think we got a lot of bodies right now and everyone's kind of fighting for their spot. And
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yeah, it was a hard day today. You know, it was a lot of one on one and two on two battles and
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stuff. So it was a challenging day. But yeah, I think as a message is pretty clear that it's
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it's going to be hard to make it and we want to make a great team and kind of build an identity
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pretty quick. Personally, for yourself, anything this year, you worked on over the summer that we
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should look forward to seeing at the start of camp from you. And as we get into the regular season.
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Honestly, just by overall game, really, there's a lot I could work on. First skating, one point,
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I think the game just got so fast nowadays. And I think guys can move so well or so agile.
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And obviously, I'm chasing a lot of D on the four checks. So the better I can get to
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disgating in general is going to help me. Last for that, you know, everything in my game,
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just my consistency overall, I think is I try to improve on. So yeah, I think those,
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those men, those are my main focuses for the year.
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Nice. Yeah, I was talking to a donor and you're built like a brick shithouse as it is.
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He was saying you gained even a little bit more muscle over this offseason. So what is a guy
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like you coming in way in at? Yeah, I think I'm right around 230 to 35 kind of changes. But yeah,
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it's, yeah, it's heavy. It's, it comes naturally though. You know, the more I work out, I think during
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the summer and I think I kind of slimmed, slimmed down as we skate a little bit more here. But
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I was telling him that he, he slimmed down a little bit and now he looks a little bit more like me
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because this, he was, he was even bigger than I was. So he's, he's pretty wide. You're, you're
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talking about donor. Yeah, a big donor. He, he was a tank when he played. You couldn't move him
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from the net front. So like having a guy like that around, do you talk, I mean, I'm sure you watched
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him growing up, growing up in Phoenix. Did you, you talked to him a lot and try to emulate a lot of
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what he brought to the game because he was a madman on the four check great net front presence. So
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how often do you get to communicate with him about your game and what you bring? Yeah, I mean,
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it's pretty nice having him, you know, be at every game and watch it. I mean, he's been behind the
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bench since I've been 12 years old, 13 years old. So he knows me inside and out, you know, as,
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as a person as well. So it's really nice to have him and just be able to pick his brain. And
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obviously, I think we have a very similar playing style. You know, I think we're obviously big players
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that are very physical and love to play around the net and stuff like that. So it's pretty nice
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having an experienced guy like that who's a veteran who can just tell me on after a game, what he
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thought, you know, his, what I was doing good, what I was doing bad and it's, it's pretty nice to
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have someone that's obviously always in my corner and pretty unbiased and, you know, it knows what I
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can do, knows my expectations for myself. So yeah, he's been obviously a huge, huge part of it here.
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Yeah. So the, the non-leafs, jock, sniffers out there, they may not know every little thing about
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you, but you grew up playing with Josh Dohn out in Arizona. And I, I was deep diving into your stats
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and everything. And I saw you playing a Quebec Peeley tournament with him, which, you know, Ryan
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Whitney is a champion of that. But the year before you played for Bratislava Slovakian there. And
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then I think your father might be Slovakian. Can you talk to us about how that all came about in
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in your Slovakian heritage? Yeah. So both my parents actually grew up in Slovakia. So I was the
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only one in my family born in the States. So I have a dual citizenship. And, uh, yeah, I mean,
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I go back there every now and then and see, see my relatives and stuff. And, um, yeah, it's pretty
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cool. You know, I think when I go back there, there's no English being spoken. I'm pretty,
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pretty bad at Slovakian. I have it a little bit, but my parents were completely slow on and so
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with my older brother. So I'm kind of the only one in the, in the family, you know, the odd
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mind out that doesn't really notice if you could tell well. So it's kind of weird. What made
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your parents move over here? My dad got a job transfer from Honeywell. He was an engineer there,
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and he got an opportunity to go to either Detroit or Arizona. And he chose Arizona for the weather.
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So smart man. One of the veterans. One of the veterans.
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He speak English before he came. Like was he always fluent in English? Yeah, they spoke a little bit.
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They spoke a little bit. They learned it in school. Um, they weren't, they weren't too fluent.
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I mean, if you talk to them now, they have pretty heavy accents. So you can tell right away. You
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think they're, you know, possibly Russian, just how heavy their, their accents are. But yeah,
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they're good now. And I'm not really sure to be honest how, how well they were, but I think
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that they knew definitely enough to, to make, uh, make their way around. We're about since Slovakia,
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because I played under 18 there in Brata Slava. Yeah. Yeah. That's where they grew up. Yeah.
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Right downtown. It's beautiful there. That's unreal. It's really good.
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So I think all the dads in the phone are so over because we went there for under 18. And they were,
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I think it was like 15 cents for a beer at the time. So we get done our games and are all
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over old now would just be swashed up. No, I know. I know. The beer is a lot better over there.
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Same with the Czech beer. My, uh, my dad always introduced me to that. That was,
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Czech beer is a lot better. He can actually, you know, your stomach doesn't feel like shit when
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you're having those. So it's a lot better over there. Do you often travel back like in the summertime?
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You guys always take a family vacation to go see all your relatives and stuff. Yeah. My, my older
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brother actually like he, he's been living in Europe for the past six, seven months and then he's,
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he's been spending his time over there. My parents go back, I think every six months. I try to go
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back once a summer. I couldn't this summer just because of all, you know, jam packed. Everything
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was with, you know, weddings and stuff. But yeah, usually I go back for two weeks in the summer and
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just because all my grandparents and everything and my cousins live over there. So to go see them.
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And yeah, it's, it's a wonderful time. You know, it's right in the middle of Europe. So you can
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always take a trip and back back somewhere else. So yeah, it's, it's cool that I have that
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unique experience. Did your dad play hockey? Was he into it over there? He played like
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professional like street hockey or like the ball hockey? I don't know if you ever seen that. Oh,
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we heard the checklets cup. Yeah. Yeah, you guys know. But I think he, he was like, I don't know if
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it was like semi professional, but I think he did like, there was like the world championships.
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And it was like, he played for like teams, Slovakia, but he played like men's league on the ice. But
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I think that was like his, his only competitive is, it was like the ball hockey. I don't even know
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if it's ball hockey or street hockey, what they call it, but yeah, he did that. We, we talk often
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about like how teams go to non-traditional locations like the coyotes ending up in, in Phoenix from,
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from Winnipeg. Now that probably had a lot to do with you starting to play minor hockey in Arizona.
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Like how, like how did you get your start in Arizona? Like what finally got you on the ice?
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Yeah, my, my, my mom's, my mom's dad played hockey and sort of like it was kind of in my family.
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And my dad just took us to coyotes games when we were younger. Me and my, my older brother and
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we went to like the, honestly, it was like 2011 or 2012, like the White Out Games when you guys,
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when the Yoast were in the playoffs. And it was like, it was the coolest atmosphere ever. Like,
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it was, like I couldn't believe it. And then from then on, I was like, I have to play hockey and
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my older brother did it. And I kind of just wanted to follow whatever he did and try to be better at
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him or better than him at it. And yeah, I kind of just took off from there and I got into the ice
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10 program. And yeah, it was, it was a lot of fun. The best everybody saw a business. I got to play
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on this show. Yeah, sitting there as the grocery store. No, not, not even, buddy. That was the,
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that when we played Chicago in the first round. Yeah. And then I, I lined up next to Bolig. I played
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one second and I didn't do my tie down and then I got kicked out. So we were down to 11 forward.
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So I guess you could say I helped them get past the Chicago Black Hawks by taking myself off the ice
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and out of the game. But that was pretty much the extent of my playoff experience that season.
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I mean, that team was like one of the grittiest teams I've ever seen. If you look back at that line
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up, it's some of the biggest and meanest boys that I loved it. Like it was, it was so fun to watch.
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Biz, was that the series Torres knocked those? Yeah. Yeah. What did you make of that when you saw it?
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What was your opinion when all that went down? There was a lot of drama. Yeah. I don't really know.
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I think I was pretty young at the time. So to me, it was like, I didn't even want to see the hit.
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I was like, that was outrageous. But Marian Hoaster was one of my, honestly, my childhood favorite
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players. He was Slovakian. So my parents loved him. So we were a little bit, we were kind of torn.
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We love the coyotes. We loved Hoaster. So we didn't really know what to think. But I think I was a
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little bit too young that I was like, I try to not watch that clip. It was one of those things that
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you couldn't keep your head off of it because it was so crazy. And I was just going to ask you a
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boat. So Austin Matthews probably, I've what, like three, four years older than you, maybe a little bit.
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Did you know about him growing up there? Like, had you heard about him at that time when you started
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playing? Yeah. Yeah. So my older brother Phil, he actually played with him for about, I want to say
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two, three years, he was a year younger, but they kind of mixed, mixed age groups at that, at that
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time. And we had the same skating coach in the summer of that, Boris. So we, we would skate together.
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Every now and then in the summer. So I knew of him. And then I was kind of when he got to the
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program that we, he really started to take off. And then, yeah, I think it's, it was crazy to see,
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you know, I kind of knew him a little bit before he got all the, you know, the hype and everything
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and going first overall and going to the Leafs. And so it was, it was crazy to see both sides of that,
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you know, see him before that and then skate with him after. And I was just going to ask, like seeing
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that, did it give you more of like, did you feel like you had more of a chance to potentially get
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to the next level at the fact that local kids were being able to make that next step? Like, did
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you ever think in a million years that you would be able to go on and, and make it to the NHL at such
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a young age? Yeah, I mean, I think he gave a lot of kids hope, you know, just sharing the ice
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with them at a young age and showing, showing us that, you know, he does the same drills as us,
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like it, it all gave us hope that we could make it. And yeah, I mean, he was the nicest and most
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welcoming guy and just getting to know him at that age was, was huge. Like, it was a huge influence
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on all of us as young kids. And yeah, it was, it was great, you know, having him around all the time
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and skating with us. It was, it was really a remarkable firm to, to do all those drills. And,
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and, you know, he was, he was usually the ones that was demonstrating everything for us. So,
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it was, it was pretty cool to have that experience with them. And now, I'll be able to play with him
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in the NHL. It was cool. I heard some rumor that he like didn't even play games at a really
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young age until he was maybe like nine or 10. I don't know if this is true, but he worked with like,
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a specific skill coach a lot. Is that the guy you mentioned, Boris? Yeah, I honestly didn't say
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the last thing because I thought I'd butchered. It's so Russian. It's like the Rosa Chanko or
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something. But yeah, we were, we skated with him. It's, it's like, we, we don't really touch a
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puck too often. Like, it was so much skating. We would skate for three hours a day and just like,
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what age is this? Sorry. This was, I mean, he did it since he was, he was probably like five or
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six years old until, I don't know, he was probably 20, 20, 21, like close to my age. But yeah, it was,
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it was like almost figure skating on ice. I can send you guys their link, but it's like,
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a skating is so difficult and it's so hard and it's so different. And I think it helped both of us,
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you know, become obviously really great skaters and develop our games a lot. But it's,
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it's something like I've never done before and to have it in Phoenix or is on it was like,
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it was just crazy. Yeah. But yeah, it was, it was, it was, yeah, it really helped us.
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Was this being done at the ice then? This was being done at, this was being done at Oceanside
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where the firebirds used to play. So yeah. And that was the ASU team was playing before they moved
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into their barn. No, it was Arcadia. Sorry, it was Arcadia. Oceanside is the old,
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it's the old Sun Devil's Rink. You're right. Arcadia was the one where we, where we had the camp.
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I don't know if that's still around, to be honest, but yeah, that was, that was an older barn for sure.
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So a young age with no pox, it's kind of like, did you enjoy it though? Like, were you still like,
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I love this? Or was it a kind of times where like, I don't want to go? A little bit of both. Like,
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I was, I remember I was like 11, 12 years old and I'm like, waking up and I'm like,
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sores hell and my legs are hurting. I'm like, this, like this can't, this can't happen. But we would
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be doing like, he'd take us outside in the Arizona heat. This isn't the summer. We do, you
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would just tell us like, do you have 500 squats and then 500 side to sides, like just lunges. And
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I, we were like sweating, dying, sore, and then we go on the ice and we're doing jumps in 360s and
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just like jumping on one leg and stuff. It was, it was, it was pretty intense stuff, but like,
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now looking back at it, it was all worth it. And now, like, that's why I don't think me and him do
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it anymore because I don't think we can handle the soreness now. But yeah, when we were, when we were
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younger, it was, it was pretty, it was pretty crazy how we could do that. Will you play in other sports?
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Yeah, I played a little bit tennis and soccer, but just, just for fun, with my bodies and stuff,
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but nothing, nothing too competitive. So with the size, you know, you mentioned,
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then you could tell on the ice, like, you're very fast, but you're also a truck. Were you always
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the biggest kid? Like, is your dad that wide and thick? Like, when did your, where did your
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size come from? Yeah, my dad's, my dad's a pretty big boy. He, like, I trained like nonstop, but,
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yeah, no, me and, me and little donor, we were probably the smallest kids on the team
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until we were 16. Me and him probably hit a growth spread at like the same time. Yeah, we were,
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I don't know if you guys looked back at our like, USHL draft year, but we were, we probably were
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one of the smallest kids drafted, the skinniest kids. We were always the little ones on the team and then
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came like 16, 17 years old. We just had a huge growth for both of us and put on weight and it kind
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of just took off from there for us because we, you know, I think we had so much skill when we were
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younger and just had the size and strength. I could made us a lot better and, yeah, it's fun.
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We both had at the same time there. You seem so close with donor and you're from Arizona. Was there
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any thoughts of going to Arizona state and if not, why did you choose Minnesota right away and just
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go through that whole process of deciding where you were going to go for college? Yeah, I was thinking
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about ASU. I think at the time when I was kind of deciding of it, it was a little bit still under
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development there. They didn't have Mold Arena and I think I just didn't really want to play
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in ocean side, you know, my freshman year, the kind of a ring that I grew up playing and I think
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that was a little bit too. And then once I started visiting some other schools in North Dakota and
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Penn State and Minnesota, I was like, I just thought these schools had a lot to offer right away and
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unreal campuses, unreal experiences. And then I kind of wanted to, you know, playing the big 10,
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I wanted to play in a conference and so that kind of came down to it and just love Minnesota.
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I love the coaches there. They were going to build a great team. I mean, you kind of look at their
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lineup when I was committing and it was, you know, a lot of great names and I just put a lot of
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faith into those coaches to make a great team and they did. So yeah, it was a good decision, but
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I mean that team that lost, you guys, when you lost the Quinnipiac, that's got to be one of the
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best college hockey rosters I've ever seen. It was nuts. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to bring that up.
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You see these guys that are like dominating the NHL now, it must have been a fun couple years
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for you. No, it was. It was Logan Cooley, Brock Faber, Jackson Wickholm and Jimmy Snuggaroo for those
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at home, not following the college game. Yeah. I mean, practice, like practicing against those guys
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and with those guys, like it was, it was, it was the closest thing you could get to the NHL,
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you know, before it and yeah, I mean, we had a hell of a team, hell of a group,
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extremely close. I live with those guys in the summer. I live with Jackson, the Coleman, Jimmy,
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Snuggaroo in the summer and we all kind of trained together too now. So it's, yeah, it sucks that
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year, but yeah, we had a pretty incredible lineup. Before that, it said you played three years with
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the Tri-City Storm. So at that point, you had to make a decision to move away from home.
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What was that adjustment like? It's pretty hard. I think I was like 15 or 16 years all
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at the time and it's different moving from Phoenix, Arizona to Nebraska where the city was,
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I don't know, 10,000 people and it was snowing like crazy. I'm learning to drive in the snow and
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I lived on a farm like out on a three mile dirt road. Like it was, it was a complete shell
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shock for me, but I live with three other guys on the team and that in that in that barn. We just
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got really close and I don't know. I loved everything about juniors. The lifestyle is so awesome.
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Just to, you know, go to high school and then and get to play in front of it. You know, thousands of
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fans and travel and go see different cities. Like it was, it was so much fun. You might have answered
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this talking about the growth spurt and it being a little later, but no consideration from the
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national program for you. I was like, how did that, were you kind of rattled by that or do you not
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care? I was a little bit upset about it. But again, I was really small at the time. I was really under
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developed. Me and Josh both were. I wasn't really expecting it that much, but I was definitely upset.
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Like that was like something I definitely dreamed about. Like I wanted to play there and honestly,
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like it was really good for me not to, you know, just to play another year of of U-16 and, you know,
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I just to puck a lot, play a lot, you know, have confidence. And then as soon as I stepped into
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junior, it was it was pretty easy for me to transition. You know, I think if I would have made that
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team, I probably wouldn't have been, you know, in their top six or been and playing a lot of minutes.
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And I think, you know, my development probably would have got kind of stalled there. So I think
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it was best for me, honestly, to go somewhere where I could play right away and play heavy minutes.
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And yeah, so I'm pretty fortunate that I got another opportunity to play on the USAH on Tri-City.
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And, you know, it was those were two special years for sure. So if I'm not mistaken here,
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looking at your hockey DB, you go from playing in Tri-City, you end up going to your first year
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in Minnesota and then towards the end of that first season, you end up getting to play in the Olympics.
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Yeah, it was halfway through my fur freshman year in February. Yeah, it was, it was, it was,
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that's unbelievable. Yeah, it was, it was really cool. It was really cool. And just sending out the
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emails to my teachers like, hey, I won't be here this month. I'm going to the Olympics. Yeah,
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yeah, it was, it was a lot of fun. And yeah, it was cool. There was, there was two other
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guys on our team that went as well. And I think half the team was all college players. And the other
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half was players playing pro and, and you're up somewhere either in the KHL, Sweden, Swiss League.
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So it was, it was an awesome that we had kind of like, you know, half a team of veterans,
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then half a team of just youngsters. And we jelled so close and it was, it was such a crazy
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experience, obviously, of being and Beijing too. It was, it was pretty gnarly. Yeah, wait, we need
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some stories from the village or did you guys get to go out? I know it was heavy COVID times,
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but was there any chinanigans going on off the ice? Yeah, I think like once kind of towards the
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end of the games, close to like the closing ceremonies, it was, it's, it's weird because every,
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every in the village, like every country has like their own like tower. And so like you'd step
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into a tower like, and there'd be a huge German flag or a huge, I don't know, Italy flag. And
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we were kind of bouncing back and forth like everyone's kind of celebrating just them being there
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and having drinks and having fun. And you know, we get caught like the Netherlands tower and we're
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trading jackets and hats and stuff. And I remember one of my like, one of my roommates like came,
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came home and just had nothing on besides besides the Netherlands jacket in the morning. So I was
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just dying laughing. He just like, I can't find my phone. I can't find, I can't find anything. I
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had a party at the end, which is, which was just like really cool to see. Like you don't, you
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don't really expect that. But yeah, towards the closing closing, uh, the ending ceremonies there,
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it was, it was a, it was a huge party. Were you able to go watch other events if you wanted to?
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Like, and if so, which ones did you go check out or were you the most interested in? Yeah, so
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there's like parts, there's like parts where some things that keep like, can't be in the same
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area. So like Bob sled like has to have like its own area. There was like three villages and
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we were in the main village where there's like a pretty decent amount of sports. So we went to
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like speed skating, um, the long track, the short track. We went to that huge, I don't even know
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what you call it, but that huge pipe where there's snowboards and skiers and they do ton of tricks.
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I want to go see those two. Um, I gotta remember here. There's, there's a few, but there a lot of
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them like the half pipe is in a different area. The, the Bob said was in a different area.
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Some of the downhill skiing, they're all, they're all kind of spread out that we couldn't,
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we couldn't make it. There was too far. So those were the main ones we watched, but like,
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it was still so much fun to go to those and just see like see it live. It's, it's pretty outrageous.
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Did that, did, did like the fake Russian team win that one? They couldn't be called Russia,
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but they were Russia like the Soviet Union of the Persia was like a, yeah, the athletes from,
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from Russia. Um, I think it was Finland. Finland won. I don't, I don't think we were even paying
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attention. We were so, we were kind of sold, so upset about losing. Um, but yeah, I think Finland,
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Finland might have beats, I want to say Sweden in the final. They were, I mean, it was mostly just
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to finish like a, like a league of all-star team. Um, but there were some really good players,
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really good teams. They're a candidate at a really good team. We played them. Yeah, so there was,
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there was a lot of great teams, but it was, uh, it's going to be interesting this year with, with,
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you know, the best on best and bringing the NHL players. It'll be, it'll be a fun time to watch.
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So you bring that up and it's like, man, watching the speed of the foreign nations,
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like how you skate, like that's got to be, you know, a big goalie or something to somehow make that
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team, right? No, for sure, for sure. I mean, you know, watching the foreign nations,
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sitting down, watching on TV, like it's, you're itching to be out there. Like it's, it's,
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it looks like such fun hockey and, um, you know, I think everyone, everyone had their eyes on that game.
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So, um, yeah, I mean, it would be obviously a huge honor to make that team and to go, to go play
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there. Um, I'm obviously going to have to work my tail off this earlier to earn a spot and, and,
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uh, you know, show that I can, can play that role that they need. So, um, yeah, hopefully my name
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gets called, but, you know, it's, uh, how do I control for now? Um, I joked about it when we first
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started this interview, but that big ticket you signed this off season. Uh, I believe that's a
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hometown discount. I was so thrilled that you came in under, uh, I believe you just came in
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under eight million. What was the first thing that you added a buy-in with, uh, with the
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signing bonus? Are you a pretty, uh, reserve guy when it comes to flex in the dough?
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I get asked out a lot. I didn't, I haven't bought anything really. I don't know what, what, what
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two buy to be honest? Like, do you rent in Toronto? Yeah, I rent a place. You can't really purchase
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because there's a, there's a huge huge like four in tax to purchase a place. So I'm not a lot of
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purchase a place really is what I'm told. Um, but so yeah, I don't, I don't really know. I think, uh,
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yeah, I just had a comfortable summer, you know, spending it, uh, wisely and, um,
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nothing, nothing crazy. I think some of the guys kind of give me shit every now and then,
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I don't, I don't own any watches or any crazy pairs of shoes. So I think those guys are like,
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tell me like they, they, they're gonna take me out or something and, and force me to buy something.
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But so when you see Matthew style, you're just like, that's not, I don't, I don't have that.
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Like, I don't, like, I don't know. Like, like, like, him and Willie, like, they kind of wear like
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baggy, baggy stuff that's like designer and I don't know. I don't, I don't really care too much.
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You know, I'm like, I'm walking into the rink. I'm walking back. Like, it's not like, I'm like,
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really showing off anything. I don't need anything crazy. But, yeah,
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what we saw at the, when were we there, Bizz, when we saw Neil and Darrow,
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and, uh, oh, yeah, we were at the all-star game. All-star game. And Neil and Ders and the other room,
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he's got a, I think it was a, a wider pink, just tank top on. It was a way to tank top.
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And he looked, he looked good. He looked good and business at tank tops.
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Mike, his, his, his, his knipples were hard as rocks because he was free inside. This guy's
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rocking a fucking bra out. In the, in the woods, huh? That's not surprised. I feel like he wears
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the white feet or a lot. So, uh, you got a, even Max dole-me is, uh, is a bit of a fashion used to as
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well. So you guys got quite a few guys on that team. There is, there is, there is a, there's a,
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there's a lot, uh, a lot of good examples out there that I should start following. Maybe I'll,
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I'll catch the train and I'm curious what they're going to do with the, with the no dress code now.
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So I'll see what they do and I'll try to follow whatever whatever it is if it's not too crazy
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Who's the guy that would maybe chirp one of their outfits when they come in like what are the veterans that kind of keep those guys
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Honest who can give it to them because we just mentioned two of the top dogs in the land or Matthews where I don't think anybody's gonna
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Say shit to them for the most part. No, no, no one I mean I'm not gonna do it. No one's gonna do it
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I was just like that's just them now like that's just we're just like so used to use somewhere and that's I don't know
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I don't really I think everyone really chirps me about my suit. They're like, oh, it's the same one again and you know
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I don't think anyone trips those guys I don't think I'd at all
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Yeah, they're like you know one one way ticket out of town while we're on this core four which we're ever this pride the last time
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We're allowed to say because I don't want chief hunting me down
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But you live with Tavares I saw of your first year
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What was that like what's he like to that locker room? He's just a he's a constant pro can you give us a little peek behind
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The curtain with him. I was really fortunate to live with him
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For him to open his doors to me. So live with this family to live with his kids like it was
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Really eye-opening honestly for a kid that was you know in 1920 coming in there and
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Just seeing how professional he is and how dialed in to his routine his eating habits his
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Treatment habits
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How prepared he is how early he shows up, you know, on which time he takes at the rank like it was it was completely shocking to me
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But yeah living with them was you pick up a lot of things that you're like I'm not doing it right like I'm there's things
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I'm missing those there's little things that it could help me get a little bit of an advantage
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Making a little bit better better players. So I picked up a lot from him and and yeah
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He's been huge for a locker room for for a leadership standpoint for
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For being an example for the young guys for
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Being vocal for for taking on a lot like he takes on a lot of weight
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So he's he's been huge. He was a huge influence on me doing well the first two years and
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Yeah, one of the most welcoming and professional humans I've ever met
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What were the biggest things was it diet?
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Was it recovery and what were the biggest things that you pulled away from him or or even anyone since you've been playing pro
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That you've had to implement that have made a big difference
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Yeah, I mean jokingly he's so proud that like I remember I'd stay with him before the season started and he'd have like a charity game and
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He's coming back from and I was opening the fridge
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I opened the fridge says like post charity game meal like he already has his meal prepped and
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Like he comes home like he would he would shower and throw on his blue like glasses
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And it would already be like 6.37 pm like it's way before way before I'm going to bed
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You know and he's he's already getting himself ready and make a tree as a good sleep so you could wake up early in the morning and
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You know his first routine when he wakes up as he gets straight out of bed and goes straight to the cold tub for three minutes and
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I don't know
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I'm on a bed dude. That's what I'm saying. I'm laying in my cozy bed for 10 more minutes and snoozing and
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You know, I'm laid out the door and but he's
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Yeah, he's he's he's next level with that kind of stuff
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But like little things like that just how important it is
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I took I took that on and I think on game days like he just does extra like he comes he comes home
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And he's still doing more work on
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If it's a little bit of like Pallotti worked or core work. He's in there while I'm you know
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I sat on the couch and watch TV and it was just trying to prepare for the game
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He would and trying to relax and take my mind off it
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He was he was still grinding in there and so yeah, sometimes you just got to applaud it and you're like this is
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This is just who he is, you know, this is uh
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It's it's it's pretty it's pretty fun to watch to be honest
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But now he's basically playing for free the next couple years. What a fucking hometown deal that was to step in
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I'm a leader for sure for sure our year, baby
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Well, while we're on this leaf talk in our year and everything
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I don't know if you're familiar with biz
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But he he is an ambassador for your team and he got a jacket this year and the big discussions online is it is
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Should he hand the jacket back in or do you guys want him to have the jacket?
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You tell me what you want you want
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The jacket by shanny
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Shanny's not there. I want to have the jacket because I remember when I was like first picked by Toronto
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And biz was at donor's house
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And I think he had a little bit
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Too much wine and he was running around the house. He was where's my little maple leaf
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And he he finally found me he down me up, but he was like it's like
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So I think he deserves it. He's got a long core long core fans. So he does there's the keeper
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I appreciate your boys, but if I'm a bit of a distraction
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I have no problem handing the jacket over. I have to stay away. I'll stay away
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But I'll I'll be there for your guys
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Game against Detroit on the 13th, which is that Monday Amazon game and I'm excited to see how you guys shake things out
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And you know you guys lost Mariner, but I really like the way you guys addressed other needs you guys got Matthias
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Machailey
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And and Roy and like Dakota Joshua where I have no idea why the Vancouver canuck speed
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Him away. So all of a sudden I know you lose Mariner who's such a valuable piece
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But you guys get bigger and deeper. So from your guys
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Chances this year. I like you mean better than the last couple of years. Yeah. Yeah, I mean
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We we we had some really key pieces that are
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That are gonna be huge for our team
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A lot of great players Nick wall and and Dakota Joshua two big players. We're gonna play physical and play hard and
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You know change the identity of of the forward you for sure and then
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Yeah, Michele is just really skilled really fast can make plays like there's there's a really great ads
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You know, I think obviously there's I mean, I'm not gonna be around the bush. There's a huge void with with Mitch
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Leaving you can't really replace that kind of a player
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And the superstar he is so but I think we did a great job of of you know adding adding pieces that are gonna definitely help
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And I think with
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You know with all of our trust and tree and and and chief, you know
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I think we we're gonna have a strong team, you know, I think with with them both coming back and
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This is finally their team and and I think we we do a great job in the offseason and yeah
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I'm really excited to see what we can do during the year and in the playoffs
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I'm wondering how it's been for you like with the pressure that comes along with playing in Toronto and it's Canada
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But Toronto's even a different beast and just the amount of reporters and looking for stories and kind of force and subjects when they really have nothing to write about
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Um, how is that like come for you like are you like
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Okay with it to get frustrated by it or has it been easier maybe being like the fifth guy the past couple of years
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Yeah, I mean a little bit of
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All of that to be honest like it's I think a lot of the a lot of the weight was taken off by shoulders by those guys
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Um, but then like living with Johnny you realize like
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You don't gotta listen to that stuff. You don't focus on that you just focus on the game
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You know, I don't think he's never throwing on you know any of the reporters
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When he comes home from a game he's throwing on other games. He's throwing on the games on the west coast
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So it's like you focus on just hockey in general
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You don't focus on what other people are saying and I think that's that's kind of what I got from Johnny too is just
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You don't you don't got to worry about any of that stuff. It doesn't matter what they say, you know, just play your game and
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When you're in the media just you know, speak your truth and
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You know, say don't you don't have to say what they want to hear. Just say what you think and
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Yeah, just just know that you know, if there always comes another day and you gotta we gotta work your tail off and and they'll be happy
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I got I got a tube two par question
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Two parts here first up, you know, you're in the NHL
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I want to know what your favorite city's been on the road and then I'm gonna try to set you up here
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What's got what what city are you looking forward to going to this season?
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Anaheim's always a good trip. I actually like Anaheim
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My first year we see that Pelican Hill and we had a day off and we got a golf
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Ongly will course right on the water
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It's really really nice. My buddy my best buddy Jackson McCormack is there
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So I always got to catch up with him, which is really nice. I love New York, New York's a fun time
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There's just so much to do. I feel like we always have a lot of time and
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Days off for practice days there that we could just kind of enjoy enjoy the city a little bit
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So I think those are probably my main two
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Every city has been fun. I guess it's cool like the first my first few years just every new city is is different and you know
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It's all new to me. So it's all fun to
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Go out with dinner with the guys and stuff and see it's it's uh, yeah, it's been nice
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You missed the boat there. I'm trying to set you up here where you got to be looking forward to a special road trip this season
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Yeah, I'm excited for Vegas. Yeah, it'll be oh no, you're still not getting it. You still miss it. You got to say Boston
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What do you mean? Why why Boston? I got in my notes here. I got the girlfriend drafted by the Boston
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Oh, that's right. Yeah
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Yeah, that's she's gonna be all over you now
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Yeah, I know now if you hear this will be yeah, that's so funny
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That's why you're not like you weren't you would end up with the Bruins somehow is like his girlfriend was drafted by the Bruins
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I'm like jeez walk off
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Toronto at the next pick so that's that's a huge bummer
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What happens did they tell today tell her that they were gonna pick her if she would went to the next pick?
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I think so I think we kind of had it's pretty
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Locked in I want to say but that's just more easy for you to fucking run the Bruins through the wall
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With you and your family
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I got to ask about the contract. I know Bruce bass brought it up. I was saying at the time
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I'm like oh 10 million years and overpay no offense. You'll end up being there
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But I was like I think I think if it's if it's eight and a half to nine two like that's that's gonna be a nice deal
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Then it came in and as a leaves hater no offense again
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I was I was like is this how the fuck did they get him to sign that like you could have gotten more money
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Is that more hey leave some more for the team like I'm happy with this or I just love this city so much
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This is what they're offering like kind of take us through the negotiation
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There was a note into various is fridge. This is all we're giving you you better fucking take it
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I mean, I think it's very fairly compensated. Yeah, I've only played two years
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Call in the NHL and
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Is this is this is nice. I also I love my hand in my hands take me off the screen here
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Yeah, I mean, I don't know like it's
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It's it's more than you know, I wanted to be long term and I think that was just the number that that fit for both of us and
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You know, I knew that they had they had the opportunity to do it right before free agency so they could you know start make it some moves and
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Um, yeah, I think we both got we're like we both settled on a very comfortable number that made us both happy and
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Made it easy on them so that in free agency they can they can get right to work and really start focusing on the rest of our team
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But I thought I thought it's more than fair and um
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For not me not being that of an experience of a player, you know, I think it's uh, I'm extremely happy with it
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I'm really fortunate that they you invested a lot of years and and a lot of money in and to me and
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So I couldn't be happier and I hope they are too, you know, I still got a
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You know, make sure it's worthwhile here and um, yeah, I still got a still got six years to work my ass off to make it make it worth their
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Worth their money. I only had a few more hockey ones until we started maybe talking about what you like to do around the city for fun
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But your relationship with chief like how was it when he first came in and like you know player coaches relationship
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Are a little different than they have they were in the past right and he's more old school
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But I feel like he's really adapted in how he communicates to the guys and you know
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What's it been like working with him and just they're all the respect in the world you probably have for him
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He's a very personable coach, you know
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He's very easy to talk to on and off the ice whether it's about hockey or it's not about hockey
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I think he's he's the kind of guy that you know when he does a pregame speech you want to run through a wall
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You know, it's he's so easy to play for and he's he's so highly motivated and um
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But yeah, he's he's been incredible and I think you know the way the way he sees the game
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I think is a lot on how I play you know where it's north south very simple, you know hard nose hockey and
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That's why I think we had a really good relationship
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And I think we know we were able to kind of feed off each other and um, yeah, I think he's been he's been huge for for my career
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So excited that he's back and that I can you know keep drawing with him and and keep learning from him
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And the follow-up I had was you know
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Obviously not the result you guys wanted
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But how much experience did you gain last postseason and just going against the champs and and realizing what it takes to win
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I know you guys were this close, but you know just you know
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You had a great run, but like what did you take away from last year's playoff run?
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Yeah, I mean it's it's hard because once that game seven's over you try to
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You try to put it behind you as quickly as possible
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You know you don't want to think about that stuff, you know
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I think we you know we kind of shit the better in game seven
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So you didn't want to think about that, you know, but I think I think our takeaway was was mostly that
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Our our consistency was was just not there as much
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Um, I didn't game one and two. I think we dominated. I think we had great games
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um came out with the w and I think we slowly kind of took our foot off the pedal and and just let him in and
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um
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Obviously they're an incredible team and and and structured so well and so deep that you can't really give them
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You know any answer breathe because if we do that they'd come back and they did so
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I think our just consistency to play play the same way game one that we did games
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You know, I'm saying game one to game seven play the same way and um, I just don't think we did that well enough
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You know
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And that series and that's I think that's just the the difference maker for us
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It's a different feeling for you there too because in your you know, it's two full years
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But three playoffs you've got to the second round twice
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So like you're kind of like not as used to you know what people say about they can't even get out of the first round
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So for you, I imagine you're thinking listen like this team like we can win a Stanley Cup
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Based on the guys that are here and like the success that you have had in the past three seasons
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No for sure. I mean again, you're not going to win it every year
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But like it's it's it's it's gonna take um
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You know, it's gonna take a lot of consistency and um
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Yeah, I just I just don't think we've had a little bit of that when it came to the you know the the clinching games the five six seven
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I think we've kind of we just haven't had our best games and I think once we have our best games at those at those times of the year
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I think we're gonna be just fine. We're gonna make it and and when you know, I think we just got a
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Again play the same way we do game one and two to in five and six seven and we'll be totally fine
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I meant to ask when you brought up Jackson McCorme earlier being a former defenseman like
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I didn't know much about it like he he's not often do people stay four years in college now
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He wasn't a first round pick it was second round still
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But like I didn't know much and now I see some anaheim games
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But more talking of players and scouts are like he's so good like did you see this coming like was he a late bloomer
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How did how was his career gone with you guys being so close?
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Yeah, I mean he's kind of had a different path like he he didn't play junior is like he played
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static you 18 and got drafted and I'm pretty sure he was like two picks out of the first round
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And there's just so much potential there when he was drafted and um I was kind of confused
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I didn't really think people can do that you know
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I thought every kid goes plays in the chl or somewhere in euro plays plays juniors and um
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Yeah, and then I came in and he was a junior my freshman year and
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I mean the guy is so talented. He's so patient with the puck
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Um, he's got so much skill. He skates so well. He makes the right play like I mean he was running our first power play
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Both years I was there and Brock Faber wasn't on either of our power play
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So he was he was that skilled like he has he has a lot to him
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Um, and that's uh, I'm not shocked at all that he's having success that he had such a great year last year because he's
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He's just so smart and and you know holds the puck so well and skates it so well and yeah
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I mean it's nice to be able to train with him in the summer because you just it's it's hard to compete with him
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You know, I think he always chased them down and he's always making the right play and yes, it's uh, it's fun to watch him
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Did you play in the beauty league? I didn't know I got I think I I got asked to early on but there's they have a lot of bodies
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And I heard it's I want to say it's kind of falling off like it's kind of going downhill
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I think the the competitiveness I heard is is a little bit different nowadays than it was before and yeah
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I heard it was just it was too long earlier and now they kind of shorted it up a little bit
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And I think guys are I don't know I haven't I haven't done it yet
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So I can't tell you but that's that's that's what I'm hearing I got to ask about your other summer roommate
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Because Grinnell is a huge you know college hockey expert for us about snigger rude and you know
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We saw him a little bit in the playoffs
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But more about him and can he win the colder this year? I think he definitely has a chance
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You know, I think he's he's gonna score a ton of goals. I've never seen someone shoot the puck harder than he does
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Matthews. Yeah, I mean he's Matthews with with Matthews is wrist shot. It's it's
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Uncomparable, you know, I think he's the best at it in the league his snapshot is wrist shot is unbelievable
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But I think snugglers one timer
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I think that there's there's a handful of guys that can do it and he's definitely one of them
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I'm sure you're gonna see it a lot on on the flank on the power play this year
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I mean the guy can absolutely wire it like he
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He did it so much in college. He's just given the puck and he just
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Anywhere he I don't know how he does it, but it's the top corner left right
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I don't even know if he's choosing he's just ripping as ours. He can
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But yeah, he's probably one of the best shooters that I've played with in my career
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Obviously other than Austin, but he's he's a he's definitely gonna score a lot of goals
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So I think he has a he's a real shot of the colder for sure quickly fit with the fun stuff
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You guys just had your Toronto Maple Leafs golf tournament
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It was broken up into two teams
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Are you allowed to tell us who won or is that like a content video that's gonna be coming out
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It was like a charity golf event. So we get like a sponsor of four some
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So we get like Rogers and MLSC and Adidas and stuff like that everyone gets like their own sponsor
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Oh you played with four guy like random guy. Yeah, yeah
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With yeah, just like a sponsor for our team and stuff
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So but we have like our trip in moscoc we usually do like a like a scramble format
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We get we just kind of randomize and do teams. So I'll let you know and come in all to the that's coming up
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Yeah, it should be
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We can have two weeks
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So they cut down the roster and then you guys go for this team building experience to moscoc
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Which these guys are trying to tell me it's got like the best boating, but like come on here
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We all know fucking Vancouver and the island do over here. I don't know what I have never heard of Vancouver
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Honestly, I didn't know that Vancouver
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You're telling me he said it was like
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It was like describing being Hawaii when you're when you're Tomo Vancouver now he's shown me some pictures
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And I think he had AI come up with something that it says
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I'm not talking about the golf islands the golf islands boys
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And then if you go over to the phenoside, it's got a Hawaii field to it
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So I guess we could maybe throw up what do you call those when you when you pass the internet a poll
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Other things who if if you got trapped
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In a room with one of your teammates who who would you want to bring with you
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Would who would be the funniest guy that would would make it fine? I'm trapped in what
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In a room let's say and you know
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When he kidnaps you
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There's there's honestly a lot of guys I like
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You guys got to get Scott Lawton on this podcast. He's probably like oh yeah, there's some bottom
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I had one wedding with hilarious. Oh my god dude. He's fucking unbelievable. What makes him so funny dude
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It's kind of I know I said no better. I was with him one night, but he's like his voice kind of is hilarious like how he says things
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It's just it's yeah, his like timing of everything and like I think he says everything that comes to his mind
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Like he doesn't let anything hold back like everything. He's like non-stop talking about something or like
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I think he says hi to me like six times a day like he it's just like you just non-stop
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Rambling about something something new. So I think he would be just like entertaining
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But I think the only guy that would probably get me through is probably more gunner is if we could actually just I think he's just
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so funny and
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Um, yeah, I love that guy. So I think I would you do my pick? I think lots wouldn't shut up
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And I think I would kind of lose my mind
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So it would turn into a saw movie where you fucking kill him. Yeah, it's also said lots like
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vicious shit talker on the ice you tell you was like
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Top three ever played with well, I they probably needed him for that Florida series
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It's comedy what he comes up with I like you just like sometimes you tip back and you chuckle like you can't
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You can't stand it and he's like so serious and it's funny because when you're playing against him you're like oh this guy
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Like sounds ruthless
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And then you just like know you like get to know him and you're like oh my god like it's just yeah, he's just funny
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And yeah, I mean I love just standing back so on the bench and just not again non-stop whatever's on his mind
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Whoever's in front of him someone's getting a piece of it. So I also love that like he play he's he's dog like I love his game
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Like that's a good that I think he'll be nice for you guys this year getting him with two years left like for two playoffs was huge
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Yeah, I mean him he he helps her in a locker room a lot too like he makes everyone so much more comfortable and
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Sessor personable guy and gets along with everyone. I think he's he's very
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He's a very big glue guy. You know, I think he brings everyone together
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So I think that's that's a huge part of where he can you can out out as well and yeah on the ice obviously is a dog and yeah
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He's gonna be huge for us how long till when he was in the locker room was he like that because normally
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There's a little bit of a feeling oh process or was it day one? It's as he comes in hot it was day one and we were playing
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I don't even know where we were but we were playing like sewer and
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He like with like sewer somebody in like chirp them and like I'm like we're like look at each other like is this guy serious like it
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What does he do it? Just guy yeah, and yeah, and he's he's already going after guys and he he he picked it up so quick and I think like
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It felt like he was on our team the whole year after just two days so um yeah, again
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He's really he's really good at that stuff
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So were you going out to eat in Toronto and are you on the J's train right now? Are you a big diving back guy like what's going on here?
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I'm a little bit on the J's train. I know that playoffs is coming around
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So I'm gonna I'm hoping to get out to a game or hopefully you get to go do some like the batting practice and stuff
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Which would be really cool going out to eat honestly
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I lived like very close to King Street
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So there's a ton of bars and restaurants that are fun to go to and I don't really I haven't really explored too much
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Yeah, like we don't get like that that crazy amount of time
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So I'm still kind of new to everything and trying different things out
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But there's definitely a few key spots like I don't know if you've been to like it's all
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But that's like me and me and wallers go to it's like a Mexican Michelin and we love it over there
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But yeah, anything on King Street is usually a great time for us love that well buddy. This is awesome
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I guess fuck you just answered I was gonna ask for one restaurant. I didn't know there was a Michelin star
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I got one. I got one
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What is it our year?
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I think it's our year. Let's go
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Oh, I'm being told something talkable restaurants
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Grinnelli got info that you have like a sick addiction to Chick-fil-A. Yeah, that was that was a meal over
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35 Chick-fil-A
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No, no, no, no back it up back it up. This was this was a
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free professional hockey. This was college
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I think it was every like in college you play Friday Saturday
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So Sunday through Thursday is like you could do whatever really and I think Mondays, Me,
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Coolie and Stuggaroo'd
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We would always go to Chick-fil-A. That was like a number one spot and
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It was yeah, it was just a huge joke and our team and stuff that they we always loved in it was it is unbelievable
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It was nice bonding time for us as a line. So it was pretty fun. But then as soon as I got to
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As soon as I got here and I told Johnny about it, I think he kind of
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looked at me with three heads and he was like, what are you doing? So it stopped from there
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I thought it was called Chick Chick-fil-A
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Or Chick-fil-A
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You haven't been hey
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No, no like early days and I figured out somebody corrected me
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But I got a bullet of pick with them
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I asked them one time if they could leave the chicken in a little longer so it could be a little crispier
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And they basically told me to fuck off
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They're the most well-run restaurant
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No surprise, Fizz with a special order
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Well, they got a new snack time
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The exact time they leave the chicken in for but I was just like, hey, you might leave an
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Infernexia 10 seconds so we'll get a little bit crispier and they were like no
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And I think it's a pretty wild ask though. I don't think I go to McDonald's and get the the bun toasted or anything
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Well while we're on this kind of food though
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I did want to ask you have you gotten into the Poutine Culture of Canada
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No, I don't like it at all
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We have we have some French guys to like Benoit like always tells me how good it is and no, I'm not a fan
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He's a greasy Frenchman though
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the
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How many sco- how many samples you ask him for if you go to like a nice cream shop
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And you've never been there before would you ask how many
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Would you ask him seven and a half he there's no way he asked for samples
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Let him answer the question. Oh, I think he does
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Probably I think one or two one or two
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I like
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If you don't ask for a sample I think you're crazy
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This is leaves this is leaves nation Merne
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One or two per scoop right what what's this what are you talking about? I met like your game
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Like if you're getting three scoops you're allowed up to six samples
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Okay, I'm not getting three scoops of anything though. All right fair enough fair enough fair enough
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Three scoops is pretty that's that's where I'm that's the road to two four
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I
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Ain't living with JT I could do whatever the fuck I want
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Yeah, I was a little bit off the rails when I left this place so I'm trying to dial in uh buddy. This has been awesome
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Thank you so much. Been time and I can't wait for the parade. I can't wait just say I know
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Save me some room on the float. Yeah, we will we will for sure
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Hey great talking to you man good luck this year. Yeah, thank you appreciate you guys
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Some people like I mentioned have told me I think they're gonna surprise. I don't see it tell me why that would happen
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If they if they may if they're right around 90 points fighting for a playoff spot last week
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Well swam and got to do all of training camp. That's a positive that is a positive boy piss
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But I mean they're healthy they're healthier this year than in years past
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I think the back end is it's still a good back end
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I mean Charlie McAvoy Mason low-ry Nikita's a door off like they they have guys that can play like Lynn home is a
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He's coming in healthy this year his knee is finally good
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So I think defense in back end, but
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I'm not one of those guys who thinks they're gonna be a good hockey team this year
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I do think they're gonna be a tough team to play against
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I think they'll have they'll play some entertaining hockey throughout the season. I mean
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David Poshnauck is is David Poshnauck at the end of the day Charlie McAvoy is Charlie McAvoy at the end of the day
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We saw what McAvoy did in four nations. So I think best case scenario is
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Competitive hockey all the way through the trade deadline and then that's when you go trade Victor Arvinson the Jonas Corpus Allos
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The confusing moves that people made this summer that the Bruins made this summer if you trade those guys and you get first round picks
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And you and you start building again for the future. I think the fans will understand a little bit
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I think my biggest question is it's all like this season is supposed to be about the youth right?
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Like in the end of the season press conference that was really what dawn swinging can melee harp dawn was we're going to the youth
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It's finally the kids time
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There's two on the projected roster. There's two guys under 25 years old
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It's Frazier Minton and Mason Lowry so that's my biggest concern is like we're not developing the youth
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We're playing guys like Victor Arvinson Fabian Lysel still isn't getting a crack at the lineup Georgie Merke you'll off that kid
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He's a lost cause at this point. So I'm a I'm a bit worried
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I'm a bit worried at the fact that they're not playing the youth heading into this season
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Hopefully as the season goes on
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Maybe you'll see these guys get a chance, but like Maddie potra. Why isn't this guy cracking the line?
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Well as Jans does say it's not a development league. It's not that's what Providence is for
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You mentioned health. I was reading about
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Tenonitis and Posternox need that was lindering from last year
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Is that still a thing like is
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Yeah, I mean he sat he sat out a bit from in the train camp and in the preseason and you know what
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Sit him down halfway through the season. I don't give two fox sit David Posternox down for the year
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Go back to the Czech Republic. Yeah, but he'd come on
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I should have played this year you said they'd play entertaining games
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Well, that's what I was gonna ask you about too
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Did you guys see Gavin McKenna play the other night if if getting Gavin McKenna on this roster
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Means sitting David Posternox for the year. I'm doing it 10 out of 10 times. Well, it's a limpic year
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So he wants to play that's that's not that's not gonna happen
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And and you said exciting brand of hockey
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That was probably my one takeaway from last year was it when you would watch Bruins games
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That was fuck I'd rather watch our our us against the stranglers ball hockey
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I think that we could probably sell more tickets. It was more entertaining
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It was it was watching paint dry. They have no speed and they're boring
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That's why they went and got guys. I think like Tanner Jeno
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At least drop the mits like go drop the mits and get the crowd going because there's nothing else to cheer for on this
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No, no, no, no hasn't done that. Jeno hasn't done that since his first year ever since his first year when he came in
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He was you know, he had 20 20 and like a hundred and something penalty minutes
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He hasn't done that since he doesn't play the way that he did the first year, but they need him to play
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Like he did that first year in that they're paying them. They're paying them like he's about the score 25
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They gave him
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I mean you could list off the deal was that not one of the more surprising deals this off season
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I believe it was a four or five year deal. I had to get to the floor. Yeah five year deal
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I believe around two million per year
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Yeah, not great more than that. What if uh
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What if Casey middle stat like what if he's awesome? What if he gets seventy five?
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You know what would be great with if Casey middle stats awesome
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And then there's a team at the trade deadline. That's willing to give up a big haul for these younger
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I thought you got it. You need some youth. He's 26. He's 26. He's not that young
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It's like if it hasn't happened yet. It hasn't happened and again Casey middle stat is not the two C of the future for the Boston
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Bruins. He's not even okay. You don't even have a one C
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We don't we absolutely don't but I heard Lynn home looks good though
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I heard Lynn home has looked really good in in uh preseason
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Yeah, I think I have a
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But like if you have another year like last year a pasta had 106 points and the next guy had 57 points like that
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That's actually you have another you it's insane like if you have another year like that a pasta at what point does he say like if they don't get
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Mechanical like it when does he say hey guys I'm out of here your tail so when I go back to the pasta thing
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I'm not saying we're shutting it down here in November, but you get through the trade deadline
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You once again you deal away half the roster the Olympics has already been played at this point at that point
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Wouldn't you sit back and say fuck well my knees killing me it's been killing me all season
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The team's not gonna win anymore games this year if I sit out
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Maybe we have a better shop at getting not only Gavin McKenna this Keaton Verhoff kid at North Dakota
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Is supposedly going to be an unbelievable defenseman any other year. He's going number one overall
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So I don't know I would sit him down the second Olympics ends
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I would fucking sit David Pasha in the press too much of a competitor he ain't
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Yes and you're selling like this is like NBA talk here like people going in the games to see him play
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When that's how down bad we are that's that's all I have
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Oh, is all I have to resort to is Gavin McKenna like Gavin McKenna or Keaton Verhoff is all I have to cling to
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And the Boston College Bruins so I had a journal 3.4 million
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How many years five
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That's good for me. I was a little surprised good for his agent
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Yeah, he doesn't he should get told me that
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The beat it was BC playing Merrimack and the Bruins had seven guys between the two teams like
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You get we got a scout outside of Massachusetts here Bruins if we want to get good, no crazy six guys
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They have six guys on just the BC Eagles alone. It's it's fucking well
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If the Eagles pop off and go on a run this year and these guys make big contributions
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You're looking at like why we got a kid bunch of kids coming up that already know each other
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So not I'm just mr. positivity in this group. I really am now
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Having said that I'm pretty sure all of us have them missing the playoffs
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Yeah, yeah, I think it more points than than what that what was it 80 80 and I think it yeah
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I think they get more points than that just because of swimming their back in his
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Conte, you know
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Decent but it's like yeah, I don't think they're gonna make the playoffs
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But if I was a bet man, I'd take the over in points
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All right, I like that. I got a missing playoffs. Yeah, they're doing shit
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And I'm happy to see that the ship bag Bruins are no longer a threat to the time. It's nice for you
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They owned you for so long here and now it's like they're down. It's nice. Yeah, but
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It's the only way Kitchok has to get hurt barcalf has to get hurt them the Bruins dynasty has to come to an end
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That's the only way the Leafs do it
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Yeah
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Yeah, it feels great
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Other than barcalf being in contract being injured. I know I don't want to get scolded for that again even though I
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Said leaves here when that leaves here
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Um
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A fan base we're gonna get to now that I think maybe he's feeling good this time every year
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Like it's it's over. We're gonna make the playoffs. We can't go 13 straight years. No, no
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It's over. It's a new year. We can't go 14 straight years
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The Buffalo Sabers if they missed the playoffs this year it'll be 15 straight years
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It's the longest record in pro sports right now currently. I believe tied with the New York Chets
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Tell him he correct me. Gee if I'm wrong there
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It's been ugly. It's been ugly for a long time. I
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Don't know guys
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It's got one chance to more of the same guys
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They got one one chance. Let's hear Alex Lyon
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That's their only hope when the Panthers the Stanley Cup two years ago
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No, they lost three years ago. He got the loss into the playoffs. Yeah, that was the year he got them in though
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But he got them in wait and then what's the need oh yeah, I'm sorry
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And then he played with Troy and then almost got them in
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So Alex Lyon in my opinion is their only hope and
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Guys this lineup didn't get better. It got worse. They got rid of JJ Paterco last year. Okay
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I'm excited for Josh Dohn to get some current like some playing time and and be a regular
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I think that he could be a great contributor to that team, but this team sucks
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I they they should just be kissing the ground in Buffalo at the fact that they have Josh Allen
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And and at the and at the bills are good because I like their D kind of
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How long have we been saying that but how long
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Ross, Miss Dallene should be on the Toronto Maple Leafs is where he should be all right dude
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Dude, what do you mean dude? They need a number one D-man that's their guy right there. He's way
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We're trying to make a good they haven't lost the game yet
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Let's give him a day. Yeah, give him a day. Let's talk about their game one day. So what you know what
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You know what maybe Lindy can bring him back
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That's another one that yeah Lindy
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It's just uh
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not have Paturka
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Maybe Josh Norris is great this year, right? You've seen moments of that. I know
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Tough trade for him from Ottawa a lot of very close buddies injury prone. I like talk. I mean
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Thompson is an absolute sniper. He bounced back last year
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He's a fun player to watch. He's a monster. He got snubbed from team USA. He's gonna be on a mission
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We're talking about the only competitive hockey he's gonna be playing is that the Olympics
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Damn
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I know dude. I'm trying to pump the I just feel bad. It's a hockey town. Fuck. It's a good market
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And they got nothing
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They've had and they got for murals moving back too. They got and they got murals coming back
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Now the worst part is when I say they have nothing and they had nothing
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They actually had a lot of guys that went on to win the stand to cup
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That's the hardest hard is they see right in our dominating. They see ike a winning
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That they see Ryan O'Reilly go to St. Louis. They just see winners leaving
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And then they're losing
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And Buffalo fans. I mean these people are good people good-hearted like it's almost like you're in the midwest
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Just give him a beer and they're nice and they'll jump through a friggin table
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All Mark won the god damn Vesna right after he left
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So let's give him a week bizz before you go puttin he piss is putting Rosmiss Dalline
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On the leaves before the opening pop drop. I'm saying that's where he should be
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And you you Taw's gonna win the cup this year because betrk is there
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Um, I like that Zach Benson kid though. He's a little shit the sturber
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Water bug out there who can make plays I trained with him at the place called a yard this summer
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Tawd him a few things. Oh god. How's his old five s1?
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Oh, it's great great
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Yeah, we weren't doing any like crazy jump squats uh bow and biram
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Is he gonna is he gonna take that step? Is he gonna be that that guy that we kept hearing about when we were in Colorado
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Owen power is he gonna
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I want to I want to see Owen power out there fucking cross checking guys in the fucking spleen
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I want to look before like you think he could be headman you're like that guy could be headman
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I want I want him to be fucking Chris pronger mean I want him to just come in and be a fucking killer
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I
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Want him with I want him fucking out there and warm up with the gag ball as well. Fuckin looking across a red line
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Get you mother fucker
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But like see the guys I see I see it in your eyes. That's what I want it's kind of like Aaron Eckblatt
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Like he got drafted first overall just like power they come in maybe trying to be a little too offensive
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But look at what Aaron Eckblatt has turned his game into like he's big. He's mean like
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Alibouing people in the face for no fucking reason
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I love it
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Power's got it. He's got to have that in his game, Bizz. I agree with you 100% if he brings that to his game
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That changes their back and immensely. I like Kessel ring too Kessel ring
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It's kind of like a Rob Skidari type is I'm talking pump it up their teeth army was big on him that that was the mo that was who they got for JJ
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Paturka correct him and donor yeah
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For the Paturka Paturka wanted out, but he was their best goal score
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He was their best offensive threat. So when you say the roster's worst is
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I kind of agree with you goal scoring wise at least I do
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And maybe Owen power turns into Darian Hatcher and you're sitting there and you're saying look what I look at the voice
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I have in the hockey world. I just turned a
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Maybe a softer bigger
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Want to be skilled player into a killer
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He's got the ability. He's enormous and he flies huge
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So Buffalo fans. We're thinking to you guys honestly. Here we are. We're thinking you guys go
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I think we all have a lot of playoffs and you have the bills you have the bills
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What do you got last guy came in? I think he was injured last year torn Achilles
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I believe it was maybe not maybe I'm making that up Jack Quinn. Yeah, and he signed
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I think that's basically the deal that um
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Evangelist assigned like that was something. Yeah
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Show me some when was drafted high
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Pretty high pick and he lit up the AHL at an age when you see a lot of 30 40 goalscores in the NHL
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If they're in the AHL they kind of pop off like that. So those are the two uh
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Probably basement dwellers in the Atlantic these three teams
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That's where that's where it gets interesting
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The eyes are planned biz
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Deis are planned. It's uh, it's an interesting time in Detroit
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I think they have some great young players who apparently look awesome and camp you saw last year like
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I thought they were gonna end up getting in
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Two years ago the the magic that occurred on the last night of the season and then this past year
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You're just wondering like there's there's they're missing one stud. They're kind of missing a game breaker
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Now on D I love citer
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So can Edvitz and take that big step they were playing together. They were awesome together
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Good enough that they had to be switched they had to be moved apart right
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coaching change and
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Let's make some changes here. So
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I love larkin. I love to brinkette. We'll see what Pat Patrachane does he's talking about I want to make the Olympic team
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Patty Kane you never know. I mean he's still very very talented with the puck. He's producing points
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Can he be even better? I don't know though. I
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I don't think I haven't getting inbiz before you say anything. I don't know if there's that much of a difference there
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Has Detroit wit you said it they need a game breaker have they found another diamond in the rough with the seventh round pick with emit
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Finney all I'm hearing about in Detroit is this emit Finney
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Very true is a game chain. I don't like this the next zeter burg in datsu
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They need a diamond in the rough
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I think I think personally that that that the eyes are planned is not being rushed
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They are young
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They do have these guys in the pipeline who will evolve into great NHL players that will help them get into the playoffs
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they did
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I think somewhat address goal tending
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Can Gibson stay healthy right? Can we see the the the John Gibson in his prime we saw in anaheim
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But a guy who can play
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50-5 60 games and stay healthy
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Okay, I'm hearing a lot about this Casper kid too. He had a decent start last year when he came up
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Is he gonna continue to evolve? I just
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Continue to look at this roster though. It did get a little deeper
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Like I love that apple 10 guy who came over from the Winnipeg Jets. I loved him and in Winnipeg
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I think he was part of that third line there for a hot minute
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That Michael Rasmussen. I think that him is a fourth line center. I like that. That's huge
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He's and then so is soda block on the left side of that for talk about that mean
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He should yes. Yeah, I think that they got a little bit older. I think they got a little bit deeper
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I think that they address the goal tending situation
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I just don't think it's time. I don't think they make playoffs. I think they're gonna be on that cost
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I don't want people to be like oh no, it's their time. It ain't it ain't the eyes or plans not being rushed
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They're gonna figure it out, but it's gonna take a little bit more time
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Game Buffalo
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No, but it's gonna take a little more time. They got two two capable goalies
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I came to Albert. He's a very good backup like he can win you some games
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Bringing in James van Riem's like he's gonna get you 15 to 20 goals like good veteran guy in the locker room
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But I honestly think if they like what's isamans leash like I know he said as long as we're not making playoffs
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Like it's still part of the eyes or plan like it's still part of the progress
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But like how long do you think his leash is biz? I think he could miss playoffs for another four years for
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I think four who the fuck you gonna hire to replace him
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I don't think I also don't who the fuck are they gonna send into fire him?
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Who the hell who the hell's got that guy off
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Can we talk he's like I'm busy right now is it okay
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Come back in four years
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Gitchin three years um
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This Sandin pelica from Sweden
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Yeah, I mean let's see let's see young but smooth like silk
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That's a guy who could you know maybe at some point this year all of a sudden he's like running the power play there
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And you have citer citer's an absolute monster. He's never missed a game
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I don't think so I don't think he's ever missed a game he gets over 40 points
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He plays all the tough minute he has all the tough matchups like you have a stud there
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Can he get to that next level
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The level of where he's at which is an awesome like true number two on a cup winning team can he turn in to a superstar
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That's a huge difference
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You guys know what I'm saying yeah, and and it goes back to a tweet that I saw today like citer 24
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Johansson 24 Raymond 23 Edvitz and 22 Casper 21 Danielson 21 pelica 20
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Finney 20 and then this brand seg nagard who they they've seemed to love 20
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So it's just they're still so young they're young
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They're like they're like I don't want to pick them to get in like I want to get in
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Same well then then then this Montreal getting in
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I
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Believe more in Montreal than I do the Detroit Red Wings. I've seen a lot of things about I've seen a lot of I've seen noise about people thinking Montreal take a step back
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Not there yet, but I got a pick right now if Detroit's in or out for the playoffs, right?
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Okay, what are you thinking
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I'm switching my pick Detroit's getting in
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Whoa
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Hockey town back hockey town's back in the middle of the ice
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Is that what it says you think Dylan Larkin and the and iserman are gonna they're gonna
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They're gonna bought. I think Raymond is I think Raymond's so nasty
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I kind of like forgot that he just sees on that trajectory. Yeah, you didn't even say his name
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I think it's just obvious. I just did these guys 23 years old and I think he's a 40 goal guy. Yeah
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Uh
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A dog on the ice to like not a soft player. He's like in the mix. You always see him in scrums
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You know in front of the net
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That's where you score goals, but that's why I tell the kids you want to score goals you go to front of the net, right?
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Yeah, I think I'm with you wit. I think I'm with you
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I think they get in they address the goal tending situation you look at there like unit one power play like that's a lethal lethal power play unit like
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Raymond Larkin Kane to bring it citer. That's a lethal power play like okay, so
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Currently you have four teams and now you guys right?
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Everyone in the league and then we got a one Montreal still remaining
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Yeah, and I don't love the Metro at all they get three
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The Metro's dog shit. Metro's are easy points
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Yeah, you're right. I gotta be careful here
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I gotta be careful. It actually has to be Detroit or Montreal
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And I guess it's no, not necessarily though
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Sorry to cut you off. Yeah, no, no, base. You make a good point. No, you do. Yeah, you make you think a little bit
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I got the trade-in. I'm not listening to you, but I got the trade-in all right
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And you want to change your mind?
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I might I might but I have you know, we're still recording right now
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As long as this this episode's live and we're sitting here chatting it up. I can switch that
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Okay, whatever you want to the end of the pod. All right fair enough. Um auto a boys
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I watched the first I think it was the first episode of the Amazon faceoff Brady
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God that guy much you love that guy. I know
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Get and him getting the taste of the playoffs after the four nations when he was
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The clip where
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Kachak says something like this is what big games feel like Brady in the locker room
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And he's like I love I love these games and then he got him in the playoffs business leaves took care of them
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what
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I like the team. I mean, I don't see a ton of change there, but
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You think that they could continue to even get better. I think they're gonna be better than last year. Okay
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All right, 100%
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I love him. I love that zedderland pickup last year. I think he's gonna continue to be a good asset for them
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I love their middle of the ice
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Lars Eller who is gonna be playing fourth line center. It looks like they get the Pinto Parley at third line center
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That handsome bastard Dylan
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The I the Norris and Cousin swap was a game changer for me. I love that for cousins, right?
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I think that he's got way more to give on a team that that
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That is is playoff bound and it's not not really sucking the life out of him
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And I just you saw and he's going to fight for his teammates
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You saw him drop the gloves. I believe it was in preseason last year or maybe it was the year before like he's a fucking gamer
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Timmy stuetsal. I think he's a hundred point player this year
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I think Timmy stew is gonna be on a rocket ship and then they're fucking strong on the wings man
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They got guys like David Peron Stanley Cup champion
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He's a power play specialist absolute gamer. Yeah, as he maybe lost the half a step who gives a fuck dude
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He's got the he's got the brains
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Ketchup the third line really that really that really great kid's a piece of shit. I fucking loved him
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And then you got oh no you know who they fall in up with on the left side on the fourth line
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Another piece of shit Nick cousins. They got a lot of fucking game that whole left side man
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Brady Kachak Peron really Greg and cousins those guys are a fucking pain in the ass to play against
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And then you got Sanderson who's a year more mature
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I thought that that zoop kid. I love him good shut down guy and then that Jensen a very underrated pickup that they got from
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Washington a few years back and then Shabbat man
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I think Shabbat slaughtered in perfectly on that left side now is as that that that fourth guy really
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Um on that back end he doesn't need to be the main guy offensively so
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Overall and then they got all mark. We know what all mark and bring
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I know that
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There was a period of time last year where the fans were getting a little bit frustrated when he started shit in the bed
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But he found his game and I think that that will continue. This is 100%
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I'm putting my biz stamp of approval
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I actually think that all seven Canadian teams are gonna make the Stanley Cup playoffs this year
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You got the biz stamp of approval right there 100% guaranteed auto isn't so you got you got wow
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All right, so you get the three Atlantic and then you have auto wall
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You do not have Detroit and then I presume you're you're taking Montreal to get in again
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What would listen? That's the one that I'm I'm a 50 50 but once we get the double barrel
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stamp of approval you just I gave it I gave it for for auto
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But I'm gonna listen to what Eric Ingalls has to say give
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Muncher all the double-rister and I'm sure he's gonna solidify my answer and the fact that every Canadian team will be represented in the Stanley Cup playoffs this year
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Uh, last thing about Ottawa. I love their left side that monster
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Clayvin remember him in that series against a Toronto. He's a mute
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Right and then that Jordan Spence from LA is pretty good
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So and you know this Anderson kid is disgusting. He's unbelievable to watch and biz yeah
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They're a hell of a team. I have them getting in
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I guess the third looking at the third line of Pinto Parley-Jeroux and Ridley Greg whether that ends up being it or not
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Like if that was it if you have the top two lines producing and then they're coming at you that's pretty sick. So
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What does all Mark have?
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He in or out
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Um
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I got the man and until watching that Amazon Prime thing last night and seeing the taste in the malt that Brady Kachak has
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And Sanderson as well like he came in late to that four nations tournament right he put he only played two games
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I think right yeah, I played yeah, no just was it just the final
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Did you just play in the fight but like he's another guy?
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I've been told by Hall of Fame players that he is gonna be a nor Astro if you win or one day
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Like you said biz he's gonna take that next step this year running the power play being the number one guy
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Being hungry to make the USA team
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I love this team. I think they're gonna have a whole lot of snarling their game
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Just because of what Brady could chuck you saw with him on the Amazon dock like this guy
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All he wants to do is win hockey games be a piece of shit on the ice and then be the best dad in the world at home
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Like he's got it figured out like I love them
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Uh
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Couldn't be more excited to watch this team actually like they
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They look like they're gonna be playing hard for 82 games and uh, I do I got them in
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All right
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I think it's time to go over to the Montreal then and bring in our guy
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Eric angles this guy loves the haves
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He should run a disclaimer for this
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Yeah, this is disclaimer Pasha style Pasha style this is scary lawless territory. He's gonna stand up. He's got his demadol van dies on
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I got my own brother C-shirt on what's going on Eric how you doing you guys are hilarious?
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You look like you're in better shape and you even charge the weights
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Yeah, a lot a lot of pickleball fucking rights buddy. You're ready to go. You're ready for another another season of playoffs, aren't you?
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Yeah, we'll see what it does to me
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Let's talk about this team um you were you were one of the few people in media who basically guaranteed that they were gonna make playoffs last year
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You must feel the same way after everybody's a year more mature
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Martin St. Louis had a little bit extra time to to work his magic there
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Where do you feel this team lies heading into this season? Yeah, well going back a last year
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I made two predictions and I was 50% right one of them was the kind of joke prediction that they would make the class because I figured they'd be around two points in or two points out
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And that's just exactly where they ended up and I figured I'd be the only genius
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Would say that they'd be in if they made it the other prediction was they'd finished ahead of Ottawa and that ended up being that wrong
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Although it was close for a long time there
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um coming to this here I just see a more mature group for the Montreal Canadians
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You know driven by Marty St. Louis, you know, they they set all longs as deaf Gordon and Kent Hughes came in here that a rebuild is never linear that development is never linear
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The one thing that's been extremely linear is the way Martin St. Louis has
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laid the path for the Canadians to become a team that understands how to win games
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and I think
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When you go through that experience of this young core growing together and they
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Understand all those elements that go into it playing kind of a riskless game
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They've got enough skill to take advantage of their chances
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They become a less fun team to play against and understandably if started to figure out
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What it takes to win games and it took really falling on their faces to start last season
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They had a worse record the first six weeks of the season and I think it reinforced
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San Luis point to them they're like
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You're not going to do this running and going and trying to outscore teams
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They're they're going to crush you and that happened several times on home ice
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Which is not what you want to see happen at the Bell Center. You definitely don't want to be on the other side of that as a player and
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I think they learned their lessons and grew up together
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I see a lot of kids in this camp, you know, they're in that age range of 23 to 25 that
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They really it really feels like they've grown up like Arbor Jack guy is like number one guy on that list for me
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Kirby doc is another guy obviously two injury played seasons
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But he's like grown up a lot matured off the ice and I think
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That is probably the biggest reason to believe in them this year
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That said you guys were just talking about the Atlantic division how crazy it is. No, be even mentioned buffalo
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Oh, we did
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They saw yeah, I came in late. I came into the conversation about Detroit and whether or not they'd make it
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I think I'd have Montreal and Ottawa ahead of them
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But who knows that they've got some unheralded young defenseman in Detroit that I think they're gonna make some noise this year
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All right, I think a guy who could make an enormous difference is is bulldoke because you see in St. Louis
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How did nice year and it was actually one of those perfect deals where
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Montreal could use a young score and St. Louis needed a young defenseman and Logan Mayu goes there makes total sense
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Do you think bulldoke gets top six minutes? Do you think he can is a guy that can get 25 goals and
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I guess it depends on his power play usage like where do you see him fit in there because that's getting a guy who's already proven
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He could score in the NHL. He's a French kid so you know that can sometimes hurt him a little bit if he isn't playing
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Well, I think but it could also kind of elevate his game and his status in the city if he is lightening up
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Yeah, I think he's a great addition for the Canadians and that he scored 19 goals a rookie in this league and he's 22
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And he's fits right in with the core of this team the other thing is aside from the fact that he can put the puck in the net
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Especially from the bumper position on the power play
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He plays with some balls like it's not like the Canadians were the toughest team in the league last year
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We saw what happened when they ran into Washington and you know
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I think they stood there ground in the end
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But those first couple of games they practically got ran out of the rick so
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Adding a guy like bulldoke who plays a direct hard style of game
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You know they could use him and they could use more of that and I think that's by Florian Jack
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I got such a long look
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In this training camp he proved that he's not that far off from playing the NHL
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He's much closer to it than anybody would have assumed when he was drafted 101st overall as an overager
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so
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I think when you look at those types of players and and that's like the complimentary piece to what this young talented group needs and
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I I really like what I saw from bulldoke because each day goes a lot
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I think you guys know what it's like to join another team and
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Learn a new system and learn new linemates and be in a new market and all that stuff
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And it's I think it's particularly challenging to do when you're young in your career
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But the progression I saw from him through camp and he suffered a little minor injury that I don't think will prevent him from starting the season on time
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You could see towards the end of the last game that he played like he was he was showing exactly what type of player is and that that to me is a player
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That's good really good really gonna help the Canadians my biggest question for the Canadians going in is goal tending
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But the Dolby is Dolby is that how you say Dolby?
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He's been amazing all camp now like is he a guy is he gonna get more is he gonna get more playing time
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He wasn't great last year. He's a big guy athletic guy
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Like if he can give you 30 40 games like I didn't play well
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That's a huge advantage for you guys. Well montenbo is pretty much got the net right
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Montenbo has got the net Dolby started his career with if he was five wins in a row in the games like Florida and Colorado
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He's part of that heater that the Canadians were on post Christmas where they had this insane road trip where they played
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The last force Stanley Cup champ is and beat them all and they lost the one game
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They lost on that five game trip was the Chicago and they put up like 44 shots on that probably should have won that game
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All to say Dolby's had an electric start and then you know regulated a little bit
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He's he's a little all over the place
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He's super competitive though. He's a he's a battle where I think guys like to play for a guy like that
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And it's kind of the perfect position for him to come in he didn't allow a goal in preseason
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I don't know. I don't think that's predictive of anything
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But it shows that you know
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He was coming in with a bit of a battle with cackin in coming in behind him and it was like hey
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You're just a kid we can send you down without waivers. You better show it and he did and he's got a he's got a great like attitude about him
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He's got some
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He's got some
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How do I how would I put it like he's got swagger?
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He's got swagger the kid and and to be able to push a guy like monta boke was
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Really progressed year over year with the cadians
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I think that only helps monta bose
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Proving to be a really solid goal. He was a guy who when he came to Montreal people were like this guy's not an NHL goal tender to
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A year later those same fans were begging for him to become the starter. So
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I think they've got a good mix in that behind them
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They got Jacob Fowler who I think might be one of the best goal tenders not me NHL
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He's going to get some key professional experience and even with kapo kakkin in coming in he had great run with florida's
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Minor league affiliate all the way to the caulder cup finals last year. He's got some NHL experience as a safety net to bring
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Fowler along in the hL, but also if you have a bit of a
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You know a lag for a guy like gobesh
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He doesn't step up and play those 35 games or whatever it is
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You know he could be down in the minors and kakkin could be coming back up
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So I think it's good debt that they didn't otherwise had had they not me in that move
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I think the the may you trade makes a lot of sense probably knowing they were going to try to get Noah dobson
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I guess maybe I was a little surprised because I feel like at least early in his career
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um
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I don't want to say one dimensional because that insults a defensive game
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But maybe a lot more upside offensively than defensively and don't really know
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How that works in with the power play situation considering you have lane hudson
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How do you feel like that's gonna impact the team and did you like that move bring an m in and paying him what they paid him
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Yeah, like it's like you said this then you they were getting dobson you're trading from a surplus position on the right side of your defense to go get
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Something that you desperately need upfront. It's not like the Canadians are a complete team upfront
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Even them adopt playing the full season this year. Bulldood comes in brings those elements that we talked about before
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Maybe I think is on his way to a very solid career and say Lewis
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I think he needs that runway to be able to prove that he his floor is at the right place so that you can play him enough
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And I think that's gonna take some games like you're gonna have to allow and to make a few mistakes
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And so he builds up the feeling as though those aren't gonna have him park on the bench
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And I think a guy like Jim Montgomery is only gonna help him. He's got snarl in his game. He's got edge
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He's a good kid who went through a lot of things
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You know
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Prior to arriving in Montreal and and really grew up and was forced to grow up
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He missed a lot of game time because of his situation, but also injuries
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And you know when you had Ryan Backer coming up on the right side for Montreal and you've got dobson in and you've got gulied there and you've got
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Jack I and Alex Carrier you're trading from a surplus to be able to address in the even
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I think
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You know you look at the Canadians defense. I talked about the maturity level of that young core and not being the main reason to believe in Montreal's playoff chances
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Look at the defense like you have Matheson and dobson and you've got Hudson and Gully and on your third pair
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You've got Jack I and Carrier and Jack I for me is the standout of this camp like he has become
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His camp was so good in the way he played. He's way faster way more mature processing speed a lot quicker
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A similar kind of process defensively that he's gone through that may you will will have in front of him now because he's
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Not the same, but he's got some of those elements. He can fight he can do all the physical stuff and he can really play so
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Like Alex Carrier like I don't I don't know what the hell happened that he ended up in Montreal on a trade that nobody had on the radar for Justin Baron
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That guy if you put him as a number four on three quarters of the teams the league
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He's not just like there. He's a good one. So that defense is deep. It's good
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Jaden Shrewbell starting on the outside looking in like he's a solid NHL defenseman
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That's that's a big reason to believe the Canadians could continue on the path they started on last year
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But just go back to the dobson like like
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How do you think that's gonna work out offensively like he's typically an offensive defenseman like well
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How many reps will he actually be getting on on the power play when you have a guy like lean Hudson
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And it was also wonder and like
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What like what why didn't he sign like why you know, you see like a guy like you look huge sign you see
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Jackson LeCole why didn't Lane Hudson in contract? Oh, would you have would you have offered him eight times nine?
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I think that's a I it's a very reasonable deal for Lane Hudson at this stage like I think there's a lot like a lot of fans
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So like Pam whatever he wants like he's amazing. He is amazing does anybody deny the fact that he's amazing
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And 66 points tied to Larry Murphy for the record for a shell the fas but as a rookie
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uh, you know, he's an incredible player the thing is
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The way the NHL works is when leverage is on your side you get a great deal and when it's not on your side
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You in your offered that type of security. I think it's a great deal. It would set him up if it's eight times nine
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And that's where it ends up, you know if it's eight times nine point one if it's eight times
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uh eight point nine whatever it is like
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I think that's a reasonable place for Lane Hudson to end up
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He gets a ton of bank and when he comes out of that contract that 29 years old
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He's gonna sign one of the most lucrative contracts in history if
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If you know he stays healthy and if he doesn't well, he'll have set up 10 generations of his family
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It is a negotiation like that's how it goes you ask me about dobs and biz
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the power play spread
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Like I think the Canadians are just happy to finally have two units like a year ago if you looked at their second unit
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I think they got three or four goals out of that for the entire season now
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You've got a unit where dobsin and lion air playing and you got another one where Hudson Demadov coffee
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This is you here playing and you've got guys like Gallagher and doc and new oak and bulldoork and
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There's a mix there where if you're not going on any given night
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You may not be the first power play
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It's it's almost equally weighted line. I had 15 power play goals last year and I think you know
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We've seen some signs we saw some some negative signs
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But we've seen some signs that the five on five game might come up a bit for him
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Which would enable him to gain the confidence to be able to contribute not just on the power play so
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Let's see how it goes. I mean we talked about it earlier like there really isn't that many
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Second unit power plays the majority of the teams the first units taken a minute 20 you're getting the pockets getting sent down
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You're getting 20 seconds maybe on this so I think a lot of it's gonna have to be with dobsin being okay with that
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Biz and like not getting pissed off and be like why am I not on the first power play?
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That's where it's a little bit difficult because like you're you're acquiring a guy where that's part of why you're getting them
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But then yet he's not able to get the reps as to what you're kind of paying him for right so
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That that to me was was where the question mark was where where what they have in lean Hudson
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And then why you would acquire no with the option like that's assuming though
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They're paying them because they expect him to be a little bit better defensively and a little bit more well-rounded
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Is that is that the case? Have they talked about maybe where where he was defensively or are they not concerned about that?
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Listen, I think it's a fair question. I'm what it when you guys air this what time on Monday year this six AM
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Morning six AM yeah, okay
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By the time this air is it will not have happened, but I'm sitting down and already saying we tomorrow
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So I'm gonna ask him what he what he's looking for as far as a dynamic is concerned on power play and how he keeps everybody like you guys know
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The dynamic within a room better than anybody keep it everybody happy, right
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Lot of mouths to feed, but if you got paid if dobsin got that money and you know
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At least for him. He's not on the first power play once you're paid
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If I don't I don't feel like it bothers guys as much maybe I'm completely still want to live up to it though
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You still want to live up to the money a period to be either clat and and you're exactly right ends because if you're no adoptsin and you just took
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The most expensive contract in Montreal and you come over here and you're coming off
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Not a down season, but a season that was down for a 70 point season year before that
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Like you think Montreal fans are extremely patient with guys who make 9.5 million dollars in year one of an eight year deal like
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He's got to get his opportunities and and say Louise a big believer that confidence is built on the power play like it translates directly to higher you got to play at five on five
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I'm I think and I can't say for sure because I haven't sat down with him yet. I think the dynamic he wants to create is major competition and be like
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You know you're throwing Suzuki Hudson coffee old demadov on the ice
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And if they're not sharp on like the first reps of the night
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They're the second power play unit for the night so like
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You know
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I deal you get more than one power play in a game, but I think Lane Hudson's old man
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I'll be fucking barking from the bottom of what about the tin foil
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Hat theory that you give dogs in a go you hope the first power play lights it up then the numbers aren't there
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And then you're like wow on Hudson's healing me lane
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Here's five
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Advanced at least the contract little bridge
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All right angles
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For a while now there's birdies chirping that Montreal's like looked into trading for a second line center
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If Kirby doc if he's able to put it all together and stay healthy the poor guy he came on our show
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I think after his rookie year great dude stropping f-bombs didn't give a shit
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He's been crushed by the injury buck like every year it's something
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So I like him a lot on root form if he were to be able to live up to
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What you thought of him is a 19 year old maybe you're not here in rumors of needing a second line center there
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Would you agree? I would say this about Kirby. I think Kirby is extremely motivated and and I personally I believe in Kirby
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You know I sat down with him at the beginning of the training camp
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Because I wanted to talk to him and and get give him an opportunity to tell his story of what he's been through
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Right he's tears his ACL MCL in the second game of season where he looked like he was gonna explode
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And then he rehabs the whole thing comes back last year plays you know
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50 odd games and tears the ACL on the same
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Like if you could imagine what that's like mentally let alone physically it's a god had to have been unbearable
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But when I said that you know jack guy and the rest of the Canadians and Kirby are guys that have really like grown up
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He really learned from those experiences
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You know what I sat down with him last year in the middle of the year when he was struggling before he got hurt
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And I just said did you give yourself the best opportunity
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To have you know to come back from the ACL MCL injury like did you have the proper summer that would enable you
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Even though you knew you were gonna lag at the beginning of the season
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To get it together and refine your rhythm and he said no like I just didn't treat it
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The way I needed to and he came back on that when I sat with him at the beginning of the straining camp and said
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I learned a lot from that
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He also learned and this is something probably for Alex Barkov to keep in mind because he just tore his ACL MCL
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Kirby said that from weeks 8 to 14 in his first rehab
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He felt physically good enough to start pushing it again
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And that was a critical time for healing to happen and not be pushing
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There's a certain fusion that needs to happen with a knee reconstruction that if you push it at a certain point in that rehab from the weeks 8 to 14
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You're risking
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That area not strengthening the way it needs to and that happened to him the first time and it slowed down
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His rehabilitation his ability to train properly in the summer and get back to what he wanted to be
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So he learned from that the second time he took it easy during those weeks
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He pushed extremely hard during the summer
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He's in the best shape that he has been in since he came to Montreal
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If he plays with the type of guys that he's set to play with right now
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And it should be I think sack ball duke and Brendan Gallagher start
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They're two direct guys to give him an opportunity to find his time in fact
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Will he inevitably end up with Demadov maybe even line a two
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I think it's not dead. It's that that's how camp started it didn't look good in one game. They changed it up
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But
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We'll see now the other side of your question and sorry to be so long-winded about it
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Is what's gonna happen with Sydney Crosby now? I'm a believer that Sydney Crosby can end up in Montreal
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Wow, I think if he played anywhere it would be much more and goes
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I believe the Canadians clip it gee what love would love to make it happen
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And I believe that anybody else that's in the race for Sydney Crosby can't necessarily give up as much as the Canadians would
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To take care of Pittsburgh, but two things need to happen one the Canadians need to be good
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And two the penguins need to be really bad. So we'll see where that goes
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I think regardless of what happens with Kirby this year where Alex newhook who's in that kind of middle six opportunity
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Same as Kirby is
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If SIDS available
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I don't think either of those guys are gonna be like no no no no I got like yeah
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Hey the headline business Crosby for for two C in Montreal. They got their second line center
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Yeah, I don't know if we label them two C
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I don't just I don't discuss the Crosby rumors
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I've put myself above that I have one theory on Crosby and why he'd stay in Pittsburgh and it's got nothing to do with the loyalty factor
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Like this guy's used the same jockstrap for his entire career
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He's like we're in the same crusty hats. It's you got draggory. It's what a hockey DB looks like is he looking to up end his entire routine and in use like
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Maybe he could wrap his mind around it for the opportunity to not only like
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Chase winning again, but do it in a place where he is a god if he's already a god in Pittsburgh but
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He he would come to Montreal and not just be up on the bandwagon of a Stanley Cup contender
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He would be a huge part of driving that
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With a guy like Ivan Demidob next to him and I think you guys have an idea of what that player is gonna look like
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If you don't you might want to tune in some Montreal games this year
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Oh
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Speaking of Demidob I heard him and um
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Oh, what's his name there
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Capinan I heard they've had some crazy like they look unbelievable together
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You think we'll see them together at any point. I know it's too young guys to put on a line might not be able to do it
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But I heard their their connection is off the charts right now
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Yeah, I don't I don't know if it's off the charts, but they're gonna start together playing with new hook
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um
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Capinan's like a super-headie 22 year old kid grew up in the Swedish league and put up some big points there
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His play away from the puck is much more mature than 22 years old, which is a reason why he made this team before the final game
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Was even played to the point that say lawee was like I don't need to see this line again like we're good
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Um pretty rare to have that happen in a training camp let alone a place like much real or the expectations are always
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Up and up and up
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That kids a really smart player
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He has great abilities with the puck, but to be able to execute it at this level
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He needs the repetition
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So it's still the jury's still out because their camp was so competitive that some of the kids they sent down
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Whether it's Owen back or Florian Jack guy who brings a totally different dimension to the game
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Like if Capinan
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Stumbles out of the gate. I'm not sure how long his runway will be like that's kind of the competition depth
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That's been created in Montreal and
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I still think though the kid plays a great two-way game. He's got a really good head for the game and if his touches
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Become more confident, which I don't see why they wouldn't play with a guy like Demadov who's gonna put him in those positions
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Um, I think he'll be here to stay
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My last one is you gave us two hot takes last year and we're right on one of them
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What are your three Montreal hot takes for this to be he just gave the one crossby?
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Well, no aside from that we don't talk the rumors on this podcast. We do we do I
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Don't that's for a man who's created thousands of them Eric. Yeah, I'm a new man
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It's not really a hot take to suggest Demadov's gonna win the call there is it
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Back to back wow
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Back to back never happened after not having a call there winner in Montreal since Kendra and rest of peace
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Lane Hudson wins it and Demadov becomes second guy
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I guess we could qualify it as hot take right there's some good competition for Demadov
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I think that's a big time hot take. I love it. I love it
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I think he's more
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Unfavorite is practically a cool take. It's warm. Okay warm take this. Yeah, he's plus 185 to win it
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I'll take Montreal on the playoffs
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Over Detroit Buffalo
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And I can't put them ahead of Ottawa this year unfortunately, okay
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That's a semi-lux warm hot take as well then fans will have to wait to roast me
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Like look at the east like our jersey in New York and amiss the playoffs this year after last year
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I don't think so who who will be
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Who will have the most amount of goals for the Montreal Canadians this year?
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Polkoffield goal coffee. No question about it. Does he make the US Olympic team?
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I think the US Olympic team, you know, it's pretty hard to move anybody out of place from what we saw for nations
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But I think their emphasis on size where it's cool
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The one thing I would say is when the scouting was done before the tournament
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Uh last time around for the foreignations like cold was firing the puck into the net
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But his complete game wasn't where we expected to be based on the development he had
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Beer prior his second half of the season like if you watch this kid play
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It was not
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Not just about the goals. He he really plays a complete game and he wins most of his puck battles for a guy who's undersized
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I think if he starts that way this year he gives himself the best opportunity to be on
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What the best version of team USA ever like it's a hell of a team to try and crack
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I think if he doesn't make it it's just because they're obsessed with the size factor and I don't blame them for being that way
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Because I think we know
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You know what what wins when it comes to must win type of hockey
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I just think Cole plays a lot bigger than he is and I if it were me picking the team
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I would give him a really serious look
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Rookie of the year odds just quickly. Demodov plus 185 the next
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Closest is Z. Boulier at plus or 12 to one
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So based like not really a hot take. I think everyone kind of thinks he's gonna get it done snuggler roots also 12 to 1
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Meces 14 to 1 Isaac Howard 16 to 1. Oh and posh's boy grits you 40 to 1 the hot take is if if
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The Canadians are good and the penguins are brat are bad
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Crosby comes here in the Canadians finish ahead of the Leafs in the standings
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You fucking asshole you've got you've been working even chucking weights and playing pickleball now you're getting fucking tough
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Hey, all right, you keep my fucking Leafs out of your goddamn mouth all right
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I thought he doesn't talk about the Leafs with no never Eric what what how long of a leash do you think line A has because you saw it towards the end of the year last year
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He's got got scratched a little bit not on the power play like how long do you think his leash is short listen
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This guy put up 20 goals last year
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He blew it isn't he in the first preseason game you played he went through a lot he fell back in love with the game
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He had a good summer and NHL summer summer where you're on the ice a lot and you're working out in the gym
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It's what you expect of a player who makes a good amount of money and has the type of talent he has
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The game for him needs to be simplified
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He needs to play it directly he needs to play it within the contract of what Sanla we expect to see from his team
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It's it's making ordinary simple plays mario's been talking about ad nauseam like
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Make the simple plays do the ordinary things so that you get the opportunity when it when you get the opportunity to be extraordinary
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You can take advantage of it, but you're not hurting our team like
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The way this team has to run
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Right now based on where they've come to and they're development of what's expected of them in this city
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You can't be coloring on your own page you can't be doing it your own way like you play the way the team needs you to or you don't play and that's
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I think that message was already sent Patrick line eight in this training camp you went from a line with
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Kirby doc and Ivan Demadov to one playing with Jovo Lano and Owen Beck
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I'm not sure where he's starting the season. We got some practices to go and I believe
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Based on some of the actions I've seen from line A on the ice that the message has been received
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If he plays the right way if he plays the simple way if he gives the puck
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To what will be elite playmakers if he plays with the guy like them and up and get some self into position shoot it
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He's gonna be just fine
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No one expects that he's gonna be the best five on five player on the team
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But he's got to do the non-negotiable parts of the game in order to get that ice time
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And then you know
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He's unbelievable on the power play. I mean who's who's gonna take anything away from what this guy can do on the power plays
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Absolutely elite and having a right-handed shot like the ops and passing it to him or having hot sin the his creativity
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Or Demadov and his creativity the suck guys in and then throw it over to his side
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If he shoots it if you get to clean look you don't even need a scream. He's gonna score. So
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Play the five on five game and you'll get your chances on the power play
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But that leash is going to be short and not just for him for every player on this team Eric angles hot take of the century
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Crossbeat to them and then the audience and finishing about the leaves. Thank you very much for coming on
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We'll catch up with you soon for sure and they are a fun tip to watch
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I love watching games at the Bell Center. So that won't change. We'll see you later. Yeah, I don't guys honestly
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I don't know how great the Canadians will be this year
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I know they're gonna be super entertaining and I think we're going into an era where they're gonna be one of the
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If not the most compelling team in Canada because what they'll have going on with Ottawa's rivalry is gonna be incredible
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um
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They'll be right there. So it's it's gonna. It's fun kinds ahead for Montreal fans anything
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All right, let's go baby. Love it. Thank you so much. I mean
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Yeah, it doesn't even mention the Leafs in terms of rivalry just brings up the Ottawa rivalry well cut probably because of what happened
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In preseason guys. I I'm
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As of now I'm uh
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I'm going with Detroit over Montreal
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I'm seeing my he might have made me flip
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Well, yeah, if Crossby gets traded there
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We can replay this we can edit it and we can have those guys get in that was that was that would be a wild wild day on the internet
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If Sydney Crosby went to the Montreal Canadians
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Biz did you end up getting out to see Gavin McKenna live?
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I didn't know I drove I drove three straight days and I was pretty tired especially on
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Thursday night I slept in my car. I was I slept in my car for four hours
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Yeah, I had a haircut booked and it was the only one I could get in before I go on TNT and I needed to like clean myself up
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I had a full
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Fucking beard and and tough salad
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So I had to get to see my guy and then I was just tired and then I figured I'd just keep up online and
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Everything is advertised. I mean holy shit, man. He can make plays under pressure
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So calm
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Just the way that he positions himself in the offensive zone where he just even that pass he made over to the the far side guy
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Who ended up scoring that goal like just a little little touch right wasn't much the one play on the power play
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He didn't even end up getting to sys on he was like the left point man
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And he has a guy coming barreling down on him where you know
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I would have fired it down the wall the minute that guy started getting his boots going towards me
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And then the guy ends up stopping up a little bit
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He didn't panic. He just makes a little play down on the half wall for the next guy
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And they ended up going tic tac toe into the back of the net. So just
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very very impressive and
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Couple nice apples on the Friday game and then ends up getting the game winner
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On Saturday with under two minutes left on that power play on the far side. So
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remarkable young talent
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And I loved the the chippinus from him. I'd never seen any clips of him
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Joshing at fans in junior. I think in junior he was the top dog where people just more came to watch him play in marvel
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That him where you get these college crowds with these college kids and they know that he's got a target on his back
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So they're just fucking chirping a nonstop overrated
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Duh
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So he fucking gave it right back the same way I talked about Rory McElroy
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shoving it up all the fucking
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Americans fans hoops
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Gavin McKenna came to ASU and at the Molotorina left given the double barrel just like Rory did
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So shut up to Gavin McKenna everything is advertising the first two games
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And I hope he continues his success and he will be first overall pick
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I'm very curious
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Keith quickly
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Where were you parked when you slept in your car?
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I just
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No, it just like you pull over there was like a like a road on the side of the high the rest
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No, it was just more about how like I ran out of time like I knew I had to be back to Arizona for 940
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So it's like why would I bought and by the way like where I am on the highway
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There's like like once you get to a certain point
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Um like it's like near Pager, Arizona
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Like a little pass that you're kind of like in the middle of the desert
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That ride the nightmare
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It's a bit of a nightmare. So I just figured out I'll pull over
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Sleep for three four hours and then get up and then power through
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So I ended up getting home just in time to get to my haircut
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So your guy your guy couldn't have pushed your haircut back a couple hours
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No, like he's booked up solid like he just like he's just like I mean what time you got available and like
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I don't expect him to work around me. It's just like hey what time you have available 940 be here then okay. See you then
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So no, I know you would never expect it
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But if you were like hey do you have noon or anything? I bet you need help yo right but but yeah
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That would have cut that kind of freaked me out a little bit
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I think solo in my car off the highway in the middle of the desert
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Yeah, you locked the door you locked the door you don't fucking leave the door unlocked the come on you get the windows down to save money
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I slept in the cab in the back. I put a blow up mattress back there
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Used his shirts hung up as his blanket I drove I drove through a bozeman and then and then drove and then stopped in Jackson for a night
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That was nice. I had to see my neighbor there and
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Yeah, I love I love driving through there. Would you listen to most of the ride?
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Lot of silence a lot of silence
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Thinking or raw dog and and then
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Oasis I've been on a wasis kicks since I playing with con man at the chickles cup
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Con man a lot of oasis
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Con man, you see them seven times
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No
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No unless you saw
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I think it's in years right
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Yeah, they just went this year he's seen them
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No, he's seen him for he went to the Toronto back-to-back shows and he actually opened up it went to the opening shows
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Cardiff yeah, he went to their their big rugby stadium there, which I've actually been I went to a I went to a
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Samoa and
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Wales rugby game
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There that was probably a hell of an environment or maybe it was England Samoa and England it was awesome crowd. That was awesome
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Oh, yeah, wait, did you say first Samoa and who
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Wales I thought it was Samoan whales, but it was actually Samoan England in whales
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That's where the game was hosted this was the all blacks
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No, no, Samoans are are very close but not but they're but a lot of the same um
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I think there's a decent amount of Samoans on the all blacks, which is a new New Zealand they
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Those are those are the guys where they do the hawk
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Yeah, you like you don't want to end up in a bar scrap against those guys
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They are just built different. They don't need the coke to get coke toft either
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They just have a couple pops and they are built like a brick shit house
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They you know that the what's the what's the football thing where you do like in the hole
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Where they just run at each other? Yeah, you start on your I think you do a push-up or you roll over to a push-up and then you
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Oklahoma, Oklahoma drill
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Rather I'd rather go ahead to head with my f250 then go head to head
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Speaking of football and bad uh, I guess bad bad being down real bad weekends. Did you see the mark Sanchez story?
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Have you read this? Very bizarre? What the bizarre what happened with that one?
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I don't know and and he obviously was probably pretty intoxicated. Did you
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Read the story about how it all transpired? I've read parts where I mean he attacked the Uber driver
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I believe pepper spray wasn't an Uber driver. It wasn't an Uber so
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So the so the story that I read was there's this guy who was driving a truck and the truck was there
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To pick up the grease from the restaurant like you know all the old grease. Yep, so
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The truck pulled up and why he was at the back of this restaurant
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And and concerning himself why the fact that this truck had pulled up and was parked there
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I don't know I don't know how many beers or how much alcohol he had and keep in mind
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Maybe this story changes from when you guys hear me tell it to to what ends up being the actual truth
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But so he told the truck driver like hey, you can't park here and then
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They kind of like verbally were kind of going at it where he's like well if I hear from the people who's
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Who like run run the business then maybe I'll move the truck
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But I'm here to do my job and I'm gonna do my job
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So he got in the passenger seat and I think he's like he started like trying to like like
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Do whatever and at that point the guy pepper spray them
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To get him off and then and then that's when kind of shit hit the fan where he ended up coming around the truck
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And Sanchez started like getting in his face and at that point the pepper spray obviously didn't work
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And the guy ended up pulling out a knife because he was so scared that he's like
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Okay, this guy's a lot bigger than I am and I don't maybe he didn't realize it was Mark Sanchez
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And so he stabbed them three times in the chest and I think that Sanchez was just like shocked
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At the fact that Sanchez was like trying to get in the passenger side at that time where
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Or excuse me the driver's side at that point where what else was he gonna do right this guy was kind of coming out of him
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And then at that point he went to the hospital. He was in critical condition
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They obviously stabilized them and then
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Sanchez got arrested because he was in the wrong drunken disorderly entering a vehicle that wasn't his and and like an assault
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So recount right just the fact of wit like
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Come and try you're in the hospital bed
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And you stabbed three times then the police come in and read you your Miranda writes you're just like what the fuck what like what's that guy doing
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It's crazy crazy story
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I don't know but like you're you know you've made what is it 40 50 million dollars playing football you're doing
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Um, you're doing like NFL commentary and that's why you're in that city doing it
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And you're and you're there and and I don't know
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He liked that parking spot. He did not want anyone in that parking spot. I guess
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Yeah, but he's visiting that city with the fuck this
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And he's so weird. It's so and oh and once again like this might all change by the time this podcast comes out
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But if that is the story I just
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Yeah, I just like don't
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Fuck man. I make that hearing that much where somebody parks
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Oh fuck well back to the hotly he's all right. I mean, I mean you guys care about me parking on the side of the highway
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No, no, I was just worried about you dying
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You were worried about you getting like
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Something about married like
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Putne ride with a guy
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To help you with the drive and so you can make your shave appointment
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Bismillianowski
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I got a white head on my eyeball
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Oh
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The Edmitts and Euler's boys in the news
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Block well-deserved extension. Yeah well-deserved extension
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This doesn't want to hear about the Euler's we'll get to the Euler's in the Pacific preview
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Also Ryan Huska he signed an extension with the Calgary flames. They were right there. They shocked the world last year almost got in
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We'll get into them with the Pacific division
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Um, I don't know what oh Eric Johnson guys what a career
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What a run he's been on with us a couple different times just an awesome dude. He announces retirement
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I mean crazy first overall pick has the freak
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Accident where he tore his ACL like in a golf cart
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But he ends up being a part of the trade over to Colorado played there forever won the Stanley Cup there played in
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credible hockey in the 2010 Olympics. I remember being there. I was like he had just dominant shifts
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So congratulations. What a run what a run
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Yeah, unreal crib max pack surety as well retired. Yes
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Did you see him imitating Matthews
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That was hilarious. That was great. I think he's got you like that. It looked like it
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Probably let's see what full authentic method acting for the
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For the little show he got his original day
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But two guys that'll be in the USA hockey hall fame in my in my opinion great careers patch already at the top of his game was scoring at a clip
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Captain of the Montreal Canadians as an American
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um
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Yeah great career on both them Eric Johnson unbelievable got probably a better guy than better better player. So
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Two two amazing careers by two great Americans love it
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Biz patches is also gonna go he's joining the University of Michigan
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I think he's like a special assistant to the head coach
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So all of a sudden you got him
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Um, I watch BU play. What was it Saturday night?
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Cole Hudson. I think he had two goals to assist
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Couple of the assist to eyes from him very excited for BU season
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But that about wraps it up long episode long pre-
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That was long long I'm here long long I'm exhausted
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Thank you so much for listening
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We will see you back this week on Friday have a great beginning of this week and he chose back
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I bet having worth breaking
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But it's taking time
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I don't know
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It don't let it
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It's gonna happen
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