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PITCHING PLAN: Buster Posey's PRIORITIES | Nick Hundley INTERVIEWS with Giants
In this episode of Lockdown Giants, host Zown Stiles discusses Nick Hundley's recent interview for the Giants manager position and Buster Posey's emphasis on prioritizing pitching in the off...
PITCHING PLAN: Buster Posey's PRIORITIES | Nick Hundley INTERVIEWS with Giants
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It's the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day.
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The Giants officially interview Nick Hunley,
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Buster Posey continues to stretch the importance of pitching and some rumors around the league
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that's all coming up on Lockdown Giants.
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Today, we are talking about Nick Hunley and how he officially interviewed Buster Posey breaking down the pitching needs
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and other openings and rumors, everything that's going on throughout the league.
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So according to Susan Slusser of the SF Chronicle,
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Nick Hunley has officially interviewed for the Giants Manager job.
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And not only that, he is kind of the favorite to land it.
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And we talked about this yesterday and going back into last week, his name even being brought up.
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Clearly, this guy is somebody that Buster Posey is really interested in.
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And there are a couple reasons why from his philosophy to his age,
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a lot of different reasons.
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Buster Posey feels like this is somebody he can mold to be the manager,
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not just now, but of the future.
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When you take a step back, it's not hard to see why Buster is so interested in Nick Hunley.
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He checks just about every box this front office seems to value.
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First things first, let's start with the obvious.
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He's a former catcher and we've seen time and time again.
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How catchers do make great managers.
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And I saw a comment saying, Alan, why do you think that it has to be a catcher and naming off a couple managers?
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Are there a lot of managers out there that weren't catchers?
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And I don't think it's a thing that is something that's happening around the league.
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I think catchers are always going to get the nod just because of the position and what that position means.
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But for the giant specifically, I said this before and I'll say it again,
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I don't mind Buster Posey saying he has a type.
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Right? I don't mind Buster Posey saying this is what I want within the organization
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because I think too many times in the past, they haven't known what they wanted.
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When they moved off a gait, Kapler, I think the only thing they did know is that they wanted somebody that was more old school.
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So they just went and found Bob Melvin who again, the Padres were willing to part from within the division.
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So that tells you something right there and that's not a slide at Bob Melvin.
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It just felt like the only thing they knew moving on from Gabe Kapler is they wanted something that was very, very traditional.
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And that's what they got in Bob Melvin.
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This time around Buster Posey can be a little bit picky and later in the show,
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I'll discuss the other openings and why Buster Posey can be a little bit picky.
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So this is how he's going about it.
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So it's not necessarily that they have to do this or they have to do that.
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Buster Posey, a former Kapler is in charge.
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So that's why he wants to move in this situation.
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And again, there are a lot of examples of Kapler's making great managers.
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And there are a lot of examples of Kaiders not working out either.
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They're used to handling pitching staffs.
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They're used to managing different personalities.
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And for Nikon Lee specifically balancing analytics with instincts.
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Second, he's got history with the Giants organization spend two seasons with the Giants knows the organization.
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And more importantly, he's got a strong relationship with Buster Posey.
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That trust matters.
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Posey has a huge voice in this process.
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He is the voice in this process along with Zach Manassian and Hundley's presence brings a sense of continuity to the clubhouse that it's been missing on top of that.
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Since retiring, Hundley's been working in the league office.
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So he's got that front office perspective that fits the Giants modern approach.
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He understands both sides the data driven approach of today's game and the human side that connects with players.
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I think that is number one on this list.
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There has to be a balance.
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You can't be stuck in the mud, stuck in your old ways.
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And hey, well, this is how we did it back in my day.
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By the way, I don't know how many people saw that but from the Phillies.
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All I needed the Phillies to do is beat the Smurfs and they can't do it.
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They're about to get swept.
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It's embarrassing.
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And I was really torn on that but play because that was just outstanding.
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I hate to give any kudos to the Dodgers but Max Muncie, that was a ridiculous play.
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Max Muncie, Mookie Best looks like he's been playing shortstop his whole life.
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That was more of, look, the Bunt was a little hard but there were comments what you don't
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Bunt to the third baseman on a on a sacrifice if you're trying to get the run into third.
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From what I recall, you are supposed to Bunt to the third baseman because it's tougher for him to basically get the ball.
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Essentially do it 360 and throw to third.
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If you Bunt to first base, he's crashing and he's got that momentum kind of moving towards first.
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That's how I was always taught.
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So I don't think the Phillies did anything wrong.
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There are a lot of people that don't like budding period.
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I don't think the Phillies did anything wrong.
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I think Nick Casianos could have seen it.
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Maybe a little clearly or more clearly and ran back to second.
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But I know it was a bang, bang situation and just embarrassing stuff for the Phillies to get swept.
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They've already gotten swept in their two home games.
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So we'll see what happens in LA.
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But that one's probably over.
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But situations like that where Buster Posey and Nick Hellinger on the same page, whether or not they would want a Bunt there.
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I don't know if, but I honestly don't know if Buster would or wouldn't.
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But that is a conversation that they would have and probably have had or did have in that interview yesterday to figure out, hey, where are you at in situations like this?
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Do we have the same philosophy?
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And my assumption is they've already had certain conversations like this because of their time together.
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So while on paper, this might seem like a quote unquote safe move.
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It actually makes a lot of strategic sense.
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Huntly bridges the gap between the old school guy and the new school thinker and the giants literally want something just like that.
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At 42 years old also, he'd be the fifth youngest manager in Major League or tied for fifth youngest manager in Major League baseball right now.
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He actually just turned 42, I believe in September.
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So that is something where you can connect.
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I got a, I got a nephew who is in his early 20s, right? And I'm 35.
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So if you add another decade on to that, I still think I'd be able to
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understand some of the things, maybe not all the things he's saying and some of the nuances of being a young man or a young player in the league.
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But 42 is a lot different and I'm not, I'm going to say it and it's not to be a slight at all.
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But 42 is different than being 63, which was how old Bob Melvin is.
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So the only reason I bring that up is because of the farm system and everybody keeps asking me about the farm system.
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What are they going to do about the farm system? Well, the farm system has already jumped up the 10 spots in bus supposed to be in here for about a year, right?
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They went from 28 to 18. So they're already moving in the right direction.
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And because of that, they wanted or the giants want a manager that they feel can be able to at least talk to in some capacity to these young players coming up.
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Obviously 40, whatever to 18, 19 or by the time they get to the big leagues, 22 is still a large gap, but 63 is an even larger gap.
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And we've seen this with managers of other teams where there's just a little bit of disconnect. So that is the kind of breakdown on Nick Hunley and a different version of it simply because Nick Hunley has officially interviewed their literally saying that he is the front runner.
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We're not hearing anything about Kurt Suzuki and from what I heard and read yesterday feels like the Kurt Suzuki thing was more of a courtesy interview.
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That's not for sure. That's not for certain, but that's what I'm gathering based on who I've talked to and just what we're hearing throughout the different articles being written on the other side.
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And the busser continues to talk about pitching and the importance of pitching heading into the off season. There are some big names available. Does that mean Justin Verlander shouldn't be at the top of the list.
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Should he be on the list at all? Don't move. More locked on giants coming up.
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So when it comes to off season priorities, Buster Posey continues to tell us exactly what it is. He isn't hiding it from anyone. The off season priorities, it comes down to pitching the priority of pitching a Buster Posey isn't hiding it. He is spelling it out in his conversation with NBC sports Bay Area.
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Posey said point blank quote, I think our focus is going to be on pitching to try to fortify our starting staff the same goes with the bullpen. That's a clear indication yet of where San Francisco's front office is headed this winter and it's not hard to see why the Giants pitching depth got exposed down the stretch in 2025 a year when the team finished 500 and Mr. playoffs.
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They cycle through young arms like Keaton win Mason black Hayden bird song but none provided the consistency of a true number to behind Logan Webb. Posey acknowledged that they're saying or I should say even number three because you got Robbie Ray.
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And I would say land and Rupus in there as well. And Posey says quote you're hoping that each year some of these young arms will take a step forward. That's something that needs to happen. It's crazy how many different names they've tried.
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And I know McDonald it went really well for him at the end of the season because off the top of my head he showed the most swing through stuff out of all the names we've said outside of the land and groups of the world and guys like that Posey's message wasn't just about hope though.
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It was about reinforcing a philosophy the one that he believes should define this franchise moving forward quote what we believe to be the recipe of success is pitching and defense.
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So we know we need to be better there a lot of times it can eliminate some of those tough stretches and again some of this is from the NBC sports.
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Bay Area article some of this is from just things that Posey has said in the past within the last couple weeks and while the Giants offense has holes particularly in the outfield Posey indicated they'll have resources to do more than just tinker when asked if ownership is willing to expand the payroll.
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Posey said the group is committed to putting a winning group together and winning players on the field that $178 payroll doesn't seem to be something to hold up the Giants hopes and dreams of doing that that gives the Giants room to add at least one impact starter and a high leverage arm a bullpen arm both of which are most must have if this team is going to build around a run prevention identity.
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So the blueprint is clear double down on what works in Oracle Park pitching and defense and let the offense develop behind it Posey it's less about flashy rebuild and more about restoring what made the Giants great in the first place here some of the exact quotes that I found to be pretty intriguing from his talk with laurebrit and he says quote you always hear it you can never have enough pitching I feel like we came into the year thinking that we had a nice amount of depth but then by the end it did.
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And it didn't feel like we had a lot of depth it was definitely a learning experience for me to learn that the old added you can never have enough pitching is definitely true that almost sounds like and I don't want to read too much into it it almost sounds like he thought that they could sell at the deadline and still have enough pitching to power through and what's crazy is that the Giants what we're a couple games out of missing the playoffs and if Randy Rodriguez doesn't get injured.
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He might have been right but that's his point you can never have enough pitching and Randy Rodriguez did get injured so that did happen to kind of screw up the Giants plans and now you have to make guys starters that that weren't starters and go from there which was just which was just rough but they did have right there on the fringe enough to get by and I that's Posey's point even if you think you have enough you don't have enough it almost reminds me of the game.
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And then when my mom says in a way just always take more than you then you need or if you think it's going to be cold but you don't know how cold just over over layer and you can always take off layers the same thing if you're going somewhere you're going to a wedding or something like that and you're not sure if it's black tie or if it's just kind of a business casual it's always better to be a little bit over dressed then under dress and I think the same goes for pitching it's always better to have too much pitching then not enough because you never know what could happen right.
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I've been to a wedding you forget to where you don't wear a jacket everybody else got jackets on now you're thinking man I should award jacket that was the Giants basically at the end of the season they thought they had enough they thought they dressed well enough and then they turned out that people were dressed up and had ties on and had jackets on and had dress shoes on and they weren't prepared and they looked a little bit out of place and they missed a playoffs because of it this was specifically about Justin Verland or quote he's been great he was a great teammate Posey said I personally feel like he pitched even worse than
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when he was probably receiving a lot of criticism early in the year I felt like he was still in a place that was putting us in a good spot that we could win games he didn't get a ton of run support and the bullpen gave it up for him a little bit in some of those stretches but then he really turned it on towards the end of the season it was pretty remarkable for a guy that turns 43 in the spring to be able to go out and compete against guys that summer half his age it was pretty impressive so if you put all this together and then you can see that he's going to be a little bit more
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and you read the tea leaves as to what the giants are saying it sounds like the approach is getting one of Franber Valdez Dillon Cees Zat Gallen for your big money guy and then besides that maybe you're finding a bullpen arm and you try to hang on to Verland or on a team friendly deal right not to say it's going to be an extremely cheap deal but at least a team friendly deal that seems to be the play go get a big name go get a
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very solid bullpen name which could be Tyler Rogers right so I guess a dream pitching a dream pitching lineup could be
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Franber Valdez Dillon Cees one of those guys right you bring back Tyler Rogers you go get Justin Verlander
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and then you hope that the McDonald's of the world the blade Tidwell's of the world one of them is able to show up
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I think that's probably the perfect slash realistic situation where the giants can be in a good spot heading into 2026 as far as the pitching is concerned because it's a crazy I mean it's a crazy list and the only other thing I would say is yeah if you really want to spend that cash if you're the giants you could get more than one big name I mean it's their money right there's obviously there's no hard salary cap but there are different taxes that the giants would have to pay but clearly
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the the Dodgers and teams like that they do not care so it's possible if you if you really want to get after it I just don't know how realistic that is I would say this though as the giants are looking at being a choosers versus beggars contrary to hitters where you do have to beg a little bit if you're a pitcher why wouldn't you want to go to Oracle Park that's one of the best places to pitch in the league because it's so hard to hit there so if I'm any of these pictures looking to you know
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obviously be successful and make sure my ERA is right Oracle Park is at the top of the list the same way it's probably at the bottom of the list for hitters probably at the top of the list for pictures so you have to feel if you're the giants that you're especially if you're willing to pay these guys you're going to have a video you're picking the litter and be able to mold somebody and mold your rotation into what you want it to be and it is crazy though looking at the different pictures throughout the league that the giants have had at times that are still currently pitching blanks now
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and then the whole went crazy for the Dodgers what was that yesterday other guys like that the blue jays it's it's pretty it's pretty ridiculous how much pitching town the giants have had but of course what Kevin
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Gossman right in Toronto but the giants have had to make certain decisions that have been tough and I think the way I want to use that example is that clearly it has not been hard to convince pitchers to come to San Francisco.
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Hitters is one thing but the giants need to just figure out who's the best picture they want throw them the bag as the kids say and I think this is going to be pretty simple as far as getting that that big arm that the giants want it's the other stuff it's the do you go get Justin Verlander do you believe that McDonald or one of these 18 young guys that you've tried out can take that next leap and you you ultimately go from there let's talk about rumors around the league some of the other openings and how the giant stack up as far as brand is concerned and pulling in a big
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So let's get into these MLB rumors and some of the openings in the candidate landscape and where the hot stove is turning on right now the recent moves and hiring announcements the Rangers have already made their move they hired skip Schumacher as manager and that was somebody that was at the top of my list the angels decided not to pick up Ron Washington's 2026 option and our parting ways.
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So they're just a couple of small ways with Benchcoach.
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Roy Ray Mt. Gummery as well opening a fresh managerial spot. Brian Smith her of the braves announced he will not return as manager stepping into an advisory roll after a long successful run the Rockies after is historically poor start and season dismissed bud Black his interim Warren Shaffer took over for the remainder of the season.
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the twins parted ways with
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Rocco Baldelli after a
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disappointing season, making
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that another open job.
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The Orioles moved on from
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Brandon Hyde elevating Tony
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Mansellino as interim, but
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making it clear they will conduct
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a full search.
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I still don't know what happened
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with the Orioles by the way.
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I know they had some injuries.
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Adley Reshman has been super
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injured, but the Orioles were
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the talk of the town with
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8,000 young prospects that
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we're getting pulled up.
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So maybe that's part of the
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So I think that's why I
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think it's a great reason
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that Brandon Hyde lost his
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job.
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I do think there were some
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injuries as well, but I
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would keep an eye on the
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Orioles going into next season.
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I know they're American League,
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but they're also just a team
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that I find pretty interesting.
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I love their ballpark out
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there in Baltimore.
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If you haven't been, go check
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it out.
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The nationals also made changes
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midseason parting ways with
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Dave Martinez and GM Mike
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Rizzo.
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They have since hired Paul
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Taboni to manage their
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baseball operations and
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selecting a new manager is
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among his priorities.
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So if you look at the
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vacancies, we have the
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giants, the angels, the
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braves, the Rockies, the
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twins, the Orioles, and the
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nationals.
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Of course, the Rangers are no
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longer on that list.
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And as far as the brands are
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concerned, as I mentioned,
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the giants, if they really
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want Nick Hunley, should go
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get Nick Hunley.
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That goes without being said.
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If he, the reports of that,
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he is the main guy.
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He is the front runner.
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They just interviewed him.
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I do not know what he is.
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He does not have a problem with
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that at all.
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But if you look at some of
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these other names, as far as
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the teams looking for managers,
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the angels, the braves, the
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Rockies, the twins, the Orioles,
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the nationals.
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You kind of, again, I have said
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this term before in this show
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today, but you should have
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your pick of the litter.
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It should be anybody that you
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want if you were the
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giants as far as guys that are
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available and willing to make
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the next step.
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Now, that doesn't mean that
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they necessarily want to leave.
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There could be guys who
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make the next step, you are
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That would rather stay where they
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are at.
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But the giants should be able to
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get whoever they want if that
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person is looking to make a name
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for themselves.
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Because even if somebody wants
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to argue the braves as far as
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a brand is concerned, that's
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fine.
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That's just one other team.
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There's still a lot of candidates.
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So the giants seem to really
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like Nick Hunley.
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And that's fine.
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Good for them.
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But there are, this is a great
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opportunity to be looking for
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a manager because the other
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names, I mean, the Rockies,
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that's a disaster.
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The twins, you know,
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the ones that are not going to
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have to be there.
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And they just sold off everyone.
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The Orioles very confusing.
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The nationals complete
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disaster.
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There are also some trends,
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patterns and kind of philosophical
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shifts that we're seeing throughout
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the league that I wanted to lay
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out for everyone.
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Many teams are hunting for a
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quote new voice or changing
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direction after plateaued
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performance.
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Not just firing under performing
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managers, but rethinking the
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leadership philosophy.
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MLB highlights how teams are
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focusing on candidates with
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versatility, communication skills,
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and developmental alignment
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with their front offices.
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Several rumored candidates across
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all franchises have catching
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backgrounds or strong picture
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relationships, signaling that
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more and more organizations are
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valuing those skillsets.
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I think a reason that this is
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being brought up a lot, not
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just the catcher thing, but also
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the new voice thing.
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Because ever since 2020,
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ever since COVID, at least this
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how it feels to me, when they
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We cut down all of those, all
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of those rounds for the draft.
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It feels like teams are less
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afraid to pull guys up quickly.
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We've joked about the A's out
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here in Sacramento.
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I actually had a coaches show
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with their, with their third
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base coach, Eric Martins.
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And every week you felt like
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the A's were pulling somebody
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up.
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And they're pulling people up
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faster and they're pulling
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people up in a hurry just
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throughout the league.
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And because of that, these
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guys, there are more guys coming
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into the league at 21, 22
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years old versus 25, 26, maybe
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not as a whole, but as far as
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the big name players, they are
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not wasting time getting these
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guys up here and getting them
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a cup of coffee.
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And I think that's important
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for the thought of the manager
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and how that manager can relate
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to those guys and those kids
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really that are being pulled
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up at that age.
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What does all this mean for the
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giants of giants managerial
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opening sits amid a broader
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wave of change in baseball?
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While many teams are looking
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for continuity, some are going
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for radical resets.
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The San Francisco Giants choice
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will be not judged in isolation,
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but in comparison to how other
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franchise evolve going into
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2026.
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The fact that several clubs are
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targeting managers with
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roster building or player
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development backgrounds just
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raises the bar.
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The Giants will need someone
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who can align with Busser Posey's
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vision, not just manage the
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games, but lead in harmony with
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the front office.
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and connect with the players.
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Again, Nick Huntley with that
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connection to front offices
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and knowing how to connect
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with those in front office
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especially because he has a
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relationship with Busser Posey.
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He is not just a fringe
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room at this point, but he is a
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very, very serious candidate
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as more teams rework their
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leadership and pool of candidates
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becomes more competitive
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the Giants might find themselves
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bidding for a couple share
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names, Albernass, even Baldelli
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who is available now and competing
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with other teams for those resources.
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Again, I still think the Giants are
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in the best position to do that
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and that's just based on history
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that's based on brand, that's
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based on all of the above.
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So we will see how that turns
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out for the Giants, whatever
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their decision.
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Again, going back to you can't
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get this wrong.
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You're not battling with the Dodgers.
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You're not battling with the Yankees.
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You're not battling with the Metz.
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I don't think you're going to be
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battling with the Phillies, even
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though the Phillies are probably
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going to get swept.
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So some of these bigger names,
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they still had a great run.
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Some of these bigger names and
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bigger brands that you might have
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to battle with in other years.
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You don't have to battle with this
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year.
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So the Giants need to get this
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right for a couple different
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reasons, specifically Busser Posey.
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Thank you for listening to Locked
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Topics Covered
Lockdown Giants
San Francisco Giants podcast
Nick Hunley interview
Buster Posey pitching philosophy
Giants manager job
MLB offseason priorities
Giants pitching depth
analytics and instincts in baseball
Giants front office
Robbie Ray
impact starter
bullpen arm
farm system improvement
Giants coaching strategy
player-manager relationship