How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!

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spk_0 I got a buddy who struggles with that shot.

spk_0 A lot of his names Frankie Barrioli.

spk_0 So the guy's actually gave him a nickname of Budden Ice because he always nights to the cops the green.

spk_0 Broke 100.

spk_0 Now you gotta break 90.

spk_0 We appreciate what you guys did for Dolphin.

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spk_0 You're making it cool with your show.

spk_0 I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking 29.99.

spk_0 And he grabs 100.

spk_0 He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 in a day yesterday.

spk_0 He goes, take 100 and go fuck yourself.

spk_0 What?

spk_0 What do you want to do?

spk_0 I'm saying a hobby.

spk_0 Four play, it's not my personal sports.

spk_0 Big day coming off a huge, huge Sunday for the four play crew.

spk_0 Back to back, back to back, emotional Sundays, you know, rider cup.

spk_0 And then right into just waiting is deeply into a world that we don't wait into very often as you could possibly wait.

spk_0 Coming in hot, having all kinds of takes that I'm quite excited to get to.

spk_0 But gentlemen, we're $80,000 richer as a team of eight people.

spk_0 How about them fucking cowboys yesterday?

spk_0 Yeah, it was a great Sunday.

spk_0 You know, the haters and the losers were out in droves,

spk_0 doubting the pick of our fearless leader, our fearless captain rigs.

spk_0 But it worked.

spk_0 And shout out to the New York Jets for being the worst franchise in maybe football history.

spk_0 Once the game started, and I know we're going to get into all this.

spk_0 But I just felt about as confident as you can feel because it was like,

spk_0 oh, this is like a pop Warner team playing against an NFL team.

spk_0 So it was a great, great, great Sunday for our rider cup squad.

spk_0 If anyone that doesn't know, we won the rider cup.

spk_0 So Riggs's team had defeated Ryan Whitney's team.

spk_0 So the bet or the winning team was able to pay a place in $80,000 bet.

spk_0 Pertacy of Dave Portney in the in the draft King sports book.

spk_0 And Riggs was in charge of picking it.

spk_0 So there was a lot of discourse throughout the last couple weeks we had.

spk_0 Oh boy.

spk_0 Jersey Jerry and Hank all in there, like throwing a lot of picks at them.

spk_0 At one point Dave said that we should bet the red socks on the game.

spk_0 That they ended up losing that Riggs had to hold strong when Dave Portney is like,

spk_0 you should bet the red socks plus 170 today.

spk_0 And everyone's like, I like it.

spk_0 I like it.

spk_0 And then Riggs goes, I don't think Frankie would like that.

spk_0 And I'm like, honestly, it's really tough.

spk_0 You know, we got Rodon on the bunk tonight.

spk_0 I think they're going to end up winning.

spk_0 There's just a lot going on.

spk_0 So like over the last couple of weeks, like holding strong and picking the Cowboys,

spk_0 which again was would I would say a, like a controversial pick in the in all of,

spk_0 you know, public eye.

spk_0 And to hold strong there is pretty impressive, man.

spk_0 Like to just pick something is nuts.

spk_0 And you have eight or seven other people that are riding on it.

spk_0 So it's really, really hard to find like a happy medium on what pick to actually go with.

spk_0 No, it was.

spk_0 And like, you know, what I guess I didn't really realize is that every single person

spk_0 who sports bets and has a Twitter account is apparently a billionaire sports

spk_0 better who's never lost a wager before.

spk_0 And they just, they're all about the plus EV and all the value plays.

spk_0 And I want everyone to know that there's no way that this operation over here that I'm

spk_0 running from a sports betting standpoint is going to out value the draft King sports

spk_0 book in the entire operation that they've got going on there, never, ever under any circumstances.

spk_0 And so there was a lot going on.

spk_0 There were a lot of takes we had Jerry be in like, I need you to place this bet rigs.

spk_0 And I'm like, why?

spk_0 And he's like, because I'm down bad, man.

spk_0 And I need to win something.

spk_0 He had Hank who credit to Hank was like actually pretty hot.

spk_0 He threw a couple of picks in there that actually ended up that they would have hit.

spk_0 But it's like we're doing like a autonomy to have like two more bases, which I'm just like,

spk_0 that's a little too nuanced for me.

spk_0 And at the end of the day, I woke up quite simply.

spk_0 And I looked at the board.

spk_0 I didn't even look at the money line and seeing it.

spk_0 And I just said that Dallas Cowboys are obviously going to destroy the New York Jets.

spk_0 There's just no way.

spk_0 There's no way.

spk_0 That's all that matters.

spk_0 And I put that out there as a little feeler.

spk_0 And then I got to give credit to my man Cody Frankie beat because I called beat.

spk_0 And I said, beef, you know sports better than I know sports.

spk_0 We do all these road trips.

spk_0 We play the dozen trivia.

spk_0 You know, fucking everything or a lot more than we know.

spk_0 And I said, I really like the Cowboys money line today.

spk_0 What do you like?

spk_0 And he said, I don't like it.

spk_0 I love it.

spk_0 He was like, let's go.

spk_0 And I said, let's fucking go.

spk_0 And then boy, oh boy, once we place that, you know, there's a lot of other things that play too,

spk_0 which people right now, it's pretty easy.

spk_0 It's fun.

spk_0 The Cowboys beat the Jets and everybody kind of forgets about it.

spk_0 If that bet law, it would be the most scrutinized thing all week long.

spk_0 I'd be on the young name show.

spk_0 I'd be on every gambling show that we got every sports betting social media account in the world.

spk_0 Well outside of our sports would have been posting the entire slip

spk_0 being like, can you believe this trap bet more on put $80,000 on the Dallas Cowboys?

spk_0 And instead they go out there and they fucking win.

spk_0 And when people are out there and are like, you know, what's take a long shot of what's

spk_0 to that?

spk_0 What people got to understand is that, you know, when people are saying like, this is such a square bet.

spk_0 This is like, yeah, I'm trying to get those chips off the tape.

spk_0 That's what we were trying to do here.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 Because we went out there in the rider cup.

spk_0 And if people got to realize that the whole journey and the point to getting to this $80,000

spk_0 is we had to go out there.

spk_0 We had to draft better than they had to draft.

spk_0 We had to go out and put parings up better than they put parings out.

spk_0 We had to go out and play golf better than they played golf.

spk_0 And then when we had an opportunity on the final day to just match up the lineup and get an easy win,

spk_0 we said, no, no, no, we're not going to go around your best players and Ryan Whitney and Kirkman

spk_0 a hand.

spk_0 We're going to go right fucking through it.

spk_0 And that's what we did and went out and won.

spk_0 And then if all of that culminated with us just having a very public $80,000 loss,

spk_0 do you know the checklets guys that be coming out of the woodwork be like, what do you mean they won the rider cup?

spk_0 They just lost more publicly and embarrassingly than anybody else possibly could have.

spk_0 Everybody would have been down our throat.

spk_0 So yeah, part of it, the money is great.

spk_0 But a big part of it too was like the only way to put a stamp on this 2025 rider cup performance.

spk_0 So we got all the golfers at Barstool Sports out there.

spk_0 One way to put a stamp on that bad boy is to get a win, get those chips off the table and say,

spk_0 thank you for coming.

spk_0 And that's what we did.

spk_0 Yeah, it worked out about as good as it can for us.

spk_0 We did.

spk_0 We dominated the rider cup and then we got the bet.

spk_0 And I was, yeah, there was a few thoughts in that group chat of like, well, I mean, the other side of it is,

spk_0 all right, it's free money essentially.

spk_0 It's a free roll.

spk_0 So if you want to bet like a plus 300 and try to really make a bunch of money on this, you could do that.

spk_0 But we were more like to like you're saying to finish this thing off in a successful and dominant and relentless fashion,

spk_0 winning that bet was a big part of it.

spk_0 And we did that.

spk_0 It was, and I, there's still people, these are my favorite people on the internet, by the way.

spk_0 And there's a lot of scrutiny that happened when we placed the bet.

spk_0 And as the before the game started and as it was happening, the best people, the number one people are the

spk_0 people once the bet wins, they still tell you it's a terrible bet.

spk_0 And it's like,

spk_0 like the gambling Twitter community and every niche community, the golf Twitter,

spk_0 every little niche Twitter is like insane.

spk_0 But when they're like, that bet sucked, even though it won, I got nothing for you.

spk_0 I got nothing for you.

spk_0 No, the worst people in the world, the only thing that we got like railroaded on was the fact that it was like an

spk_0 extremely public bet.

spk_0 And it's a very rare instance in which the lines switched because we placed the bet a little early before like

spk_0 the inactives were announced.

spk_0

spk_0 So like we placed the bet caught like 1145 at 12 o'clock.

spk_0 They announced that four of the five offensive linemen for the Cowboys are now out.

spk_0 And CD Lamb is out.

spk_0 So it's like, all right, the whole entire world is like, now I get moment in this household when that happened.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 So it's like, we placed it prior.

spk_0 So even like I wrote in the group chat, I'm like, oh, fuck, like now the line's like plus 100 could have gotten an extra 30 grand if we win this thing.

spk_0 If we waited 20 minutes.

spk_0 But like, so that's why I think a lot of people were like, well, not necessarily was it.

spk_0 It wasn't a bad pick in the sense that they didn't think the Cowboys were going to win.

spk_0 It was like 10 more minutes and it probably could have been $170,000 in pay.

spk_0 But then once you start to like divide it, once you start to nitpick at like an $80,000 bet, you're becoming the asshole.

spk_0 Like you got to just go the other way after 25 minutes.

spk_0 Like nobody knows that.

spk_0 Like they knew that in hindsight, but it could have been 100% at the Jets were announcing a bunch of injured players in the line.

spk_0 Could swing the other ways.

spk_0 What's like that?

spk_0 100% how it works that way.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 No, it was a nerve-wracking hour leading up.

spk_0 Also, I'm like a Jets fan.

spk_0 So I'm thinking the Jets have fucked me my whole life.

spk_0 I've never seen the Jets do anything successful.

spk_0 They've been to a couple of ASC championships with the Rex Ryan days and Mark Sanchez, which is like, wow, there's a lot going on there.

spk_0 Tungo on our Mark Sanchez.

spk_0 And then like the butt fumble, everything.

spk_0 That guy's just had quite quite the trip.

spk_0 But now it's like the day that you expect them to lose.

spk_0 I'm going into this Sunday before you send that text message.

spk_0 I'm texting my buddies being like, is anyone even watching football today?

spk_0 Like they are going to get fucking crushed.

spk_0 You send that text that we're going Cowboys Moneyline.

spk_0 I'm out at a frickin' cider farm with my kid and like my godson, my family.

spk_0 I checked that text like 20 minutes after it was sent.

spk_0 After it was placed, I checked that text after it was placed.

spk_0 And I said, holy fuck, the Jets are absolutely going to win today.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 1000% is this the game they win.

spk_0 Then I start seeing the public opinion.

spk_0 I'm like, oh my god.

spk_0 Like everyone thinks the Jets are going to win today.

spk_0 And I know they're going to win.

spk_0 This is what they do.

spk_0 They fuck it up.

spk_0 They won a game two years ago before trying to draft Trevor Lawrence.

spk_0 They won the last game of the season and like they just didn't get Trevor Lawrence.

spk_0 They got Zach Wilson.

spk_0 So it's like at the end of the day, they always screw up things in my life.

spk_0 I thought for sure.

spk_0 The fact that you beat that, like you beat the Jets first for a Jets fan, that's incredible.

spk_0 Like the Jets needed to lose that for me.

spk_0 I'm with you.

spk_0 All of that between like 1140 and 1 o'clock was all happening really, really fast.

spk_0 And it was that was when it was all conviction, all conviction.

spk_0 I called beef positive.

spk_0 This is it.

spk_0 I looked at it a hundred times.

spk_0 I said that that was cowboys.

spk_0 I just watched the documentary.

spk_0 I'm all fired up about Jerry Jones.

spk_0 They're playing against the Jets who are awful.

spk_0 Like they always are.

spk_0 I just said, Karai Rich and just sent the stats.

spk_0 The Jets are the first team since what 1933 to have zero takeaways through five games.

spk_0 So there was bad as it gets them.

spk_0 Just like, I'm not even betting on the cowboys.

spk_0 I'm just betting that the Jets cannot win a football game.

spk_0 They're horrible.

spk_0 But then it did pop up, Frankie, where I was thinking they're going to go like one in 16.

spk_0 And this is going to be their one victory of the entire season, where it's like they

spk_0 just had a miracle afternoon.

spk_0 And so all that was racing through my head.

spk_0 And then it got to the point two where it's like obviously incredible start to disastrous

spk_0 performances from the Jets.

spk_0 And then you're thinking this is really going to hurt.

spk_0 If we're up like 20 to three and they somehow lose this game.

spk_0 So that part of it was very nerve-racking.

spk_0 But into the day, they got it done.

spk_0 They got it.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And then also you got to think and you kind of laid this out in the beginning.

spk_0 But like when we're playing the writer cup, Dave announced we're playing for $10,000

spk_0 a guy.

spk_0 So you're like, the nerves are real high.

spk_0 You're playing golf.

spk_0 You're trying to win all this money.

spk_0 And at the end, he says, all right, you're not going to get the $10,000.

spk_0 You have to bet it.

spk_0 So now we turn rigs essentially turn $10,000 to $18,000 for eight different people, which

spk_0 is an insane accomplishment.

spk_0 Like that is huge.

spk_0 Anyone saying that that's like no value or whatever, we had to like win multiple things

spk_0 to get to $18,000 per person.

spk_0 It will be taxed.

spk_0 Shout out to Jerry.

spk_0 So it'll be like $14,000.

spk_0 Something like that.

spk_0 But yeah, it's a huge win.

spk_0 And then shout out to me and Trent, who we talked since the writer cup bet was even announced

spk_0 back when we were at Great Horse.

spk_0 We're like, oh, we're probably just going to hedge it.

spk_0 And just like, like if Dave really wants this bet, we're going to kind of be pussies about

spk_0 it.

spk_0 And we'll just like hedge the side of it.

spk_0 We'll guarantee ourselves like nine grand, right?

spk_0 Like maybe the high side will be 10 grand, the low side will be six grand.

spk_0 And we'll guarantee ourselves some money.

spk_0 So Trent called me right when the bet was placed.

spk_0 Like, what are we doing about this hedge?

spk_0 And we're kind of talking through, talking through.

spk_0 At one point, I'm like, listen, I think we just got to go with this thing.

spk_0 I might throw a little bit on because the only problem was that there was no line to

spk_0 hedge it.

spk_0 Like it was one and a half.

spk_0 And then the line flip.

spk_0 So then it was like jets were favored minus one and a half.

spk_0 So you really couldn't hedge.

spk_0 You could only hedge money line.

spk_0 We were trying to find a sweet pocket to go right into the middle.

spk_0 I don't know what that gambling term is, but there is a term where you can just like

spk_0 hit both.

spk_0 I like that sweet pocket.

spk_0 That sweet pocket man.

spk_0 So like we were looking for that.

spk_0 And then I'm like, you know what?

spk_0 I'm just going to hold Trent held.

spk_0 I don't know if Francis ended up holding.

spk_0 I know he was a big hedge guy.

spk_0 I don't think anybody else had beef ended up hedging.

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 I'm not sure.

spk_0 I think beef had been talking about hedging, but I really don't know.

spk_0 I can ask him.

spk_0 I hope he didn't.

spk_0 Because it ended up being a freaking blow out.

spk_0 I don't think that he ended up doing it because I was with him because I was with

spk_0 him all weekend at Pinehurst at the Draft Kings event.

spk_0 And we were talking that morning on rocking chairs outside of Pinehurst.

spk_0 And I think he ended up not doing it.

spk_0 But yeah, Frank and I, I mean, we sent maybe a million techs to each other.

spk_0 Like while the game is going on, like trying to figure out like what's going to happen?

spk_0 Where's the line?

spk_0 What do we want to do?

spk_0 And at one point, we just held our nuts and we're like, the Cowboys are just going to

spk_0 win this football game.

spk_0 Well, at one point, Jetson, the Cowboys looked like a pretty even team through like one

spk_0 and a half quarters.

spk_0 And like you were thinking to yourself, all right, like, because at the end of the first

spk_0 half is where things really started to get messy for the Jets.

spk_0 Like last drive was insane getting the ball back to 30 seconds up the end of scoring.

spk_0 I touched down and it was over then.

spk_0 But like up until that point, you're like, all right, maybe they can keep this game

spk_0 within nine.

spk_0 So now you start to lie, you're thinking about a lie, but at one point, I like went into

spk_0 my, I like attached my bank account so that I could like put in $4,000 and I was going

spk_0 to start like betting the Jets like plus nine and a half.

spk_0 And then I just like looked at myself and I'm like, you're not putting a dollar on the

spk_0 New York Jets right now.

spk_0 We are riding this thing.

spk_0 We're going to win $18,000.

spk_0 Because I started to get like this fantasy of like winning it all.

spk_0 Like we're going to find that pocket.

spk_0 The Jets are going to come back.

spk_0 They're going to make it like a seven point game.

spk_0 They're going to lose.

spk_0 And everyone's going to say it was the first half.

spk_0 The end of that first half was going to be the nightmare.

spk_0 So I'm so glad, long story short, I'm glad I didn't touch any of it.

spk_0 I just watched stress free football and we won $18,000.

spk_0 So shout out to Riggs.

spk_0 That's insane.

spk_0 And then Jersey Jerry on the other side won a $16,000 win.

spk_0 I saw that.

spk_0 $32,000, $36,000 on the drafting sportsbook.

spk_0 Just a hell of a day for our guy Jersey Jerry.

spk_0 Jerry Jerry was fired up.

spk_0 He's putting out videos and he's texting me on the side being like, I believe in you.

spk_0 I believe in you.

spk_0 And I'm like, it doesn't sound like you do, Jerry.

spk_0 And then we went out there and he had just an all time day for Jerry.

spk_0 So yeah, it was all these things being considered.

spk_0 And like I said, at the end of the day, the sweet pocket that you're talking about, I don't

spk_0 have the arithmetic to find that.

spk_0 I know that that's just a blind spot for me.

spk_0 I just do not, I can never figure that shit out.

spk_0 I get like a very simple hedge obviously, but you're right.

spk_0 When it's starting, when the lines moving and then you're like, there's a way I could

spk_0 win both ways, then I was panicking that if I try to do something like that, I'm going

spk_0 to end up what almost happened with me with the rider.

spk_0 It was like, I almost lost both.

spk_0 I almost had my country lose and lost all the money.

spk_0 And so you're like, that would be of course for me.

spk_0 It doesn't know how to do this shit where I ended up with.

spk_0 And you know, I was just like, I pretty much, when it comes to everybody's trying to find

spk_0 the value, it's like, I pretty much bet on like Rory and Scotty to win majors and golf

spk_0 tournaments.

spk_0 That's like as deep as my betting now it goes.

spk_0 And so when you're in this world, man, it is everybody's got some takes.

spk_0 And my, yeah, my favorite one is also yours, right?

spk_0 Where it's like, even though you hit and you won all that money, that was a terrible bet.

spk_0 It was just that that's a God awful bet.

spk_0 You can't be proud of that one.

spk_0 So, uh, enjoyed the hell out of it.

spk_0 What a ride.

spk_0 And yeah, we've now, we have, we have, uh, we've had a hell of a 2025 with the

spk_0 bar still rider cup performance.

spk_0 So big thanks to Dave with the, with the bet.

spk_0 And yeah, we got 18,000 hours coming our way.

spk_0 So I was texting Frankie after the game yesterday where we also had our razor backs.

spk_0 Go hogs when we did the, um, fucking it.

spk_0 What a, the March Man is saying, we've been the four play was all Frankie.

spk_0 Say what you want.

spk_0 That was all Frankie.

spk_0 The boys have been hot this year with a little bit of gambling.

spk_0 So there's a lot of critiques, a lot of criticism, but it's been pretty good.

spk_0 Those are some nice hits, man.

spk_0 Those are again, those, these are realms that I would say were not our greatest.

spk_0 It's a college basketball.

spk_0 Oh my god.

spk_0 Are we a college basketball show all of that?

spk_0 Um, all of a sudden.

spk_0 So yeah, it was thrilling.

spk_0 It was incredibly nerve wracking until the end of the first half.

spk_0 And then it was like, all right.

spk_0 I think at this point, we could probably handle this from here.

spk_0 Um, okay.

spk_0 Moving on.

spk_0 You got a couple other things to discuss that.

spk_0 I know somebody mentioned earlier, this Mark Sanchez stories, one of the crazy things I've ever seen when that came across my radar.

spk_0 Oh my god.

spk_0 Not enough news about exactly what happened.

spk_0 There's all this like hoopla and what people are guessing.

spk_0 I saw KSC put the video and and Captain Con's is a guess about it was his new source was just funny, but like.

spk_0 And I can, I totally can see like how he got for me to be on that.

spk_0 Like they think that a lot of people think that Mark Sanchez got into an Uber and the guy was just like.

spk_0 He's probably intoxicated and the guys like I'm not going to drive you.

spk_0 They got into an altercation because of that and the guy ended up self defending himself stabs them.

spk_0 But I mean, did you see the picture of the guy in the frickin hospital bed that Mark Sanchez beat the shit out of?

spk_0 No, allegedly.

spk_0 Oh, no, I've only seen the two reports.

spk_0 I saw the first report where it was like, holy shit, Mark Sanchez got stabbed and I was like, what the hell?

spk_0 And then like a day or so later it was that he got arrested.

spk_0 Those are the only two things I've seen.

spk_0 Through the photo of this guy.

spk_0 Oh, yeah.

spk_0 Through this guy is not in a good spot.

spk_0 Insane.

spk_0 Just one of the craziest stories.

spk_0 I mean, this was this coming out like over the weekend too while you're kind of like, you know, you're not as plugged into the internet.

spk_0 It's a Saturday.

spk_0 You're kind of and then like trying to put the pieces of this all together as it was coming out.

spk_0 He's supposed to be on the broadcast.

spk_0 Just like what the hell is going on?

spk_0 What in the hell is going on?

spk_0 So yeah, wild stole, absolutely wild stole.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Insane, dude, and speaking of I mean like that picture just reminds me just emergency rooms.

spk_0 I'm watching this show of the pit.

spk_0 You guys see the pit on HBO?

spk_0 I've heard of it, but I haven't watched it.

spk_0 I want a ton of Emmy awards.

spk_0 It is, and I don't even know how to like put it into the category of acting because like basically it's just so there's 15 episodes and it's a 15 hour shift at an emergency room in Pittsburgh.

spk_0 So like, episode one is 7 a.m. to 8 a.m.

spk_0 8 a.m. to 9 a.m.

spk_0 9 a.m. to 10 a.m.

spk_0 It just keeps going.

spk_0 So like it's all one day and obviously a lot happens in one day.

spk_0 It's an emergency room.

spk_0 It's Pittsburgh.

spk_0 A lot of things happen.

spk_0 So like it's worth a whole series, but the acting in this is like hard to even put your like finger on because like they are legitimately so believable as doctors.

spk_0 And I've and I've read so much on this because I'm so into the show that like surgeons and emergency doctors and all these people like can't believe these are actors.

spk_0 The terminology they're able to use, how fast they're talking, how long some of the conversations are around a patient.

spk_0 Dude, this show really has like no meaning aside from just showing cases.

spk_0 Like it's just case after case they're running around.

spk_0 They're like legit showing babies coming out and like heads being open and hearts pumping.

spk_0 I don't know how they fucking did like this.

spk_0 I don't know how they did the cause it's all like practical.

spk_0 What's the word I'm looking for? Like not CGI.

spk_0 It's like, I mean, practical.

spk_0 It's like practical props and stuff.

spk_0 Like it's actual like bodies and like, dude, it is.

spk_0 So worth watching because it makes you just you can't believe that these human beings live amongst us that go out there.

spk_0 And I said this was like when my dad got heart surgery, like these people are legit.

spk_0 Like they are.

spk_0 They are gods on our.

spk_0 It's nuts that they and they and and it really like paints.

spk_0 It shines a light on like they have no money.

spk_0 Like even like the residents and like other people that are, you know, the student doctors that are just getting out of school.

spk_0 They're in so much debt and like they can barely have a place to live.

spk_0 But like they are just grinding on just keeping people a lot.

spk_0 People come in with like the craziest shit of all time and they're like,

spk_0 my life is dedicated to just keeping you a lot.

spk_0 And if I get it wrong, it's the rest of my life.

spk_0 You have no idea who I am, but you've been plopped here on my bed and I have to now save you.

spk_0 And if I don't, it's going to ruin my life.

spk_0 But it's like, it's just like a crazy existence.

spk_0 And like just shout out to all those people that work in that like that's what this show does.

spk_0 It's like you want to go to a hospital and drop off like, you know,

spk_0 dessert and food for these people.

spk_0 You want to like, you want to do everything you can for these people to make them make,

spk_0 make them understand that you love what they do.

spk_0 And like you like are so grateful.

spk_0 It's unbelievable.

spk_0 Do this show is so worth watching.

spk_0 It's on HBO Max.

spk_0 It's very gory and it's like it's, it's anxiety inducing for sure because their life is anxiety,

spk_0 anxiety inducing.

spk_0 It's nonstop.

spk_0 But God is the acting good.

spk_0 I'm like, how are these people not like legit, just like surgeons and doctors now?

spk_0 Like they know enough to come off that way.

spk_0 They might be able to actually save a life for your life.

spk_0 That's how much they know crazy.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 I'm going to watch that one.

spk_0 I'm jacked up about it.

spk_0 I do need a new show before we fully move on from the Cowboys game.

spk_0 I just want to give a shout out to Greg Olson.

spk_0 He is the number one color analyst for me.

spk_0 I can't great.

spk_0 You know, normally on a Sunday, I'm jumping around so much looking at different games,

spk_0 watching Red Zone, watching whatever that I don't stick on a game for the full game.

spk_0 But having a full game of Greg Olson, I don't know how anybody's better than that.

spk_0 And it's just a real joy to watch a football game that he calls.

spk_0 I know there's a lot of talk about like Brady and Romo and Collins worth.

spk_0 There's a bunch of good ones.

spk_0 But I think Greg Olson is number one.

spk_0 He's just the man.

spk_0 He gets it.

spk_0 And he really, it comes across so genuine and natural.

spk_0 You see the video of Greg Olson coaching like a little like, you know,

spk_0 I don't know if it was a middle school team or a high school team.

spk_0 And then he was mic'd up.

spk_0 I think it's on his Instagram.

spk_0 He's starting to put out this content of him.

spk_0 And I think maybe his dad coaching like a high school team

spk_0 and the way he talks to these kids, it's almost worth playing and just listening to how he talks to him.

spk_0 It's a quick little clip.

spk_0 I think it's on Greg Olson's Instagram.

spk_0 This guy is just he's born to be a guy that talks about football and like a leader.

spk_0 And just like describe things very, very simply to you.

spk_0 And it makes you feel like you know what you're talking about.

spk_0 One of the OG OG barstool guy, Stool.

spk_0 Oh yeah.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Been around.

spk_0 I kept all turn them in Chicago.

spk_0 That was like the first big videos.

spk_0 Yeah, he's on wake up barstool.

spk_0 I think every Monday with it's like him and Groot and do a do a segment.

spk_0 It's they still do that.

spk_0 They know Dave roasted his outfit and he's like, I'm never going to come on the show again.

spk_0 I was called him on a pile.

spk_0 He called.

spk_0 But he's a hell.

spk_0 He's a hell of a he doesn't help a job.

spk_0 Call him football games.

spk_0 There's just so much insight that you just don't see that he really adds a ton to it.

spk_0 So that was that was another good party yesterday with me.

spk_0 I'm going to listen to him.

spk_0 That part when I do watch football is interesting to me.

spk_0 It's a guy who like didn't grow up playing it.

spk_0 Try and obviously you were, you know, big linebacker, right?

spk_0 Yeah, linebacker.

spk_0 It's like when they do truly because there's so much strategy as people know in football,

spk_0 where it's like my sport hockey, there's strategy, but pretty much like you just run your lines

spk_0 and put your five guys out there and they kind of like just play.

spk_0 It's very intakesable.

spk_0 There's so much strategy in football that when you get somebody like Greg Olson,

spk_0 who can break down all the analysis, that really is like gripping to me because that's a lot of

spk_0 shit that I just don't know.

spk_0 I also don't think people realize how impressive it is to watch a play in real time and then be able to break it down

spk_0 and speak it back to you in 17 seconds.

spk_0 Like the fact that he can watch it happen and then they'll bring the play back and replay the play.

spk_0 And he's already drawn and shown what happened.

spk_0 It's, it's an incredible skill and he's really good at it.

spk_0 Yeah, shout out to Greg Olson.

spk_0 He's the man.

spk_0 He is the man.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 I got a couple other things here for our little administrative purposes.

spk_0 Next week, big golf match, Kirk Minahan.

spk_0 I was on Kirk's show last week, kind of hash in this out.

spk_0 Whitney was in studio, you know, Kirk challenged me a month or so, maybe a couple of months ago.

spk_0 And just texted me and said, I would like to play in this haters series because there's a lot of documented evidence that I hate you at times.

spk_0 And I said, that sounds great.

spk_0 Let's do it.

spk_0 And so now we were negotiating the strokes.

spk_0 I believe we have settled on four and a half strokes.

spk_0 It's going to be in all fans or not just allowed, but they are encouraged.

spk_0 We're going to have the beverage cart falling along.

spk_0 So we're going to have the open tab going if anybody would like a beverage.

spk_0 I know it's early in a Wednesday, but you never know with people fun event.

spk_0 So 9 a.m.

spk_0 Brandon links and Quincy Massachusetts on October 15, which is next Wednesday.

spk_0 Myself and Kirk in just a prideful one on one golf match, match play,

spk_0 giving four and a half shots at Granalix.

spk_0 And Frankie, you're on the bag, right?

spk_0 Yes, sir.

spk_0 On the bag.

spk_0 Frankie.

spk_0 Frankie's on the bag.

spk_0 Going into the lines then it's like, this is an away game.

spk_0 This is how Europe, I guess, fell going into Beth Page.

spk_0 We're going to their backyard.

spk_0 It's going to be a lot of Kirkman and fans as expected.

spk_0 So it's going to be loud.

spk_0 It's going to be intense.

spk_0 They're going to be against us.

spk_0 But yeah, hopefully we have as much support as we can get.

spk_0 And yet it's going to be a hell of a match.

spk_0 So the four and a half, I've actually as much golf as I've played my life.

spk_0 I've never heard anyone get four and a half.

spk_0 So that means if you guys just like push a whole, well, I don't understand

spk_0 what the half is.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 No, it is, it is rare, but essentially it'll, it'll come on whatever the third

spk_0 hardest hole on the front nine.

spk_0 And it'll just be added to basically his score.

spk_0 So what that means like we can't tie the hole.

spk_0 It's impossible.

spk_0 So if I make a four and he makes a four, he has a three and a half

spk_0 because he's getting half a shot.

spk_0 So he would, he would win that hole and or the other way around.

spk_0 If he makes a five, I make a four.

spk_0 He would have a four and a half.

spk_0 I would have a four and I would win the hole.

spk_0 So it really just makes it like a stroke, except you can't tie the hole.

spk_0 You can only win or lose the hole.

spk_0 Got it.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So, um, so yeah, he's getting four and a half, which means the back nine,

spk_0 he'll just get to the front nine.

spk_0 He'll get his two and a half.

spk_0 And hopefully that, that half shot won't matter as much coming down the stretch

spk_0 and whatever on the back nine.

spk_0 So yeah, it's, you know, look, herch is, um, there's been stretches where I've

spk_0 been on the Kirkman and show many times.

spk_0 Couldn't get along better.

spk_0 We're talking about golf.

spk_0 There's one time Kirk was down here a couple years ago during the original

spk_0 rider cup.

spk_0 We took a lovely golf cart ride around pioneers.

spk_0 I was pointing out a lot of my favorite trees and spots around

spk_0 pioneers to him.

spk_0 And then there's times where we're not even on speaking terms in every

spk_0 other day.

spk_0 There's a clip that comes out for the Kirkman, as you can show of him,

spk_0 just bury in me and bury him up.

spk_0 So you never really know where I stand with the Kirk.

spk_0 I people ask me, you know, over the last couple of months, they're like,

spk_0 what's the deal with with Kirk?

spk_0 Is he, is that serious?

spk_0 There's that content.

spk_0 I'm like, I don't know.

spk_0 I truly, I honestly don't know.

spk_0 I have no idea.

spk_0 I think it's probably a little bit of both all the time.

spk_0 But point is, you know, Kirk's MO is he, of course, has about his rabbit

spk_0 of a following, uh, as anybody at Barstool sports, the minifans,

spk_0 they rally around Kirk.

spk_0 They always have, um, Kirk's gone at a lot of different people for a lot of

spk_0 different reasons and the bar stool universe and beyond.

spk_0 And so it's sort of if that's, if that's Kirk's thing, which it is.

spk_0 And we're going to do a golf match like we said, it's like, we're going to go

spk_0 right into that lion's den and we're going to give it everything we got.

spk_0 Frankie.

spk_0 So any support that we can get will be much appreciated out there.

spk_0 Hell yeah.

spk_0 Um, I believe a new break and eight fives coming out this week.

spk_0 Trent from what, what lock were you guys went?

spk_0 Oh, woodlock, woodlock springs, woodlock pines.

spk_0 Frankie, you know, this is a place that he has been going his entire life.

spk_0 And I think he's going to start going back there with his family.

spk_0 And he wanted to show me, he wanted to show Brandon and Kyle Timz was there.

spk_0 What this place was, what it was all about.

spk_0 They've got a great spa.

spk_0 Apparently the number one is one of the number one of the nation.

spk_0 The all inclusive spa.

spk_0 This year they got that we got, we got massage.

spk_0 We were there.

spk_0 They got a sauna room.

spk_0 They got a cold room.

spk_0 Yeah, we played the golf course out there.

spk_0 Beautiful golf course.

spk_0 Really fun.

spk_0 It's the, we played nine holes and we did the two transfers.

spk_0 One Frankie.

spk_0 So that was one of the nine's when we did a breaking 85 played 18 holes.

spk_0 And you know, it was a pretty damn good around.

spk_0 You know, it just people got to watch it.

spk_0 We had a really good time out there.

spk_0 Yeah, it's a resort course, but like not who resorted.

spk_0 So like a lot of the local people that live in those, that Poconos area love to travel to this golf course.

spk_0 Regardless of if you're staying there, it's a very, very fun track.

spk_0 They only have like 10 or 11 guys on staff that work on this ground screw and what they're able to accomplish with how insane.

spk_0 Some of these holes are they have huge gorges that you have to hit over.

spk_0 And they've got all these insane, you know, elevated tee boxes going down into split fairways.

spk_0 And they mow all these amazing lines into like the huge drop offs of rough.

spk_0 And it's a beautiful, beautiful golf course, especially now with the fall foliage.

spk_0 I would, you know, I got to be able to make my way up state and then into like that Western P.A.

spk_0 Or I guess that's Eastern P.A.

spk_0 Yeah, that Eastern Pennsylvania.

spk_0 I would think you'd be Eastern.

spk_0 That's that.

spk_0 That's that East.

spk_0 That Poconos area is incredible.

spk_0 I just don't know.

spk_0 I'm never going like North and I'm never going west of New York.

spk_0 You know, I mean like I'm always staying on Long Island or I'm traveling like really far away from it.

spk_0 I got to start utilizing it because we go, we went up once the turning stone, which is like up, you know, up in I think it's like Rochester.

spk_0 Maybe I went there once.

spk_0 We had a wedding up there and I played this place turning.

spk_0 So I think I talked to you guys about it.

spk_0 It was like the most incredible golf course I had ever seen.

spk_0 And I saw Garrett Clarksman go in there like crazy.

spk_0 I saw that too.

spk_0 He's played there like three or four times over the last couple of weeks.

spk_0 I feel like you just keep posting about it.

spk_0 So yeah, no, it's a really great spot.

spk_0 It's just different golf than what I'm used to.

spk_0 Everything's pretty flat here on Long Island.

spk_0 So really, really great to get out there and Woodlock.

spk_0 Yeah, Woodlock finds them going out there for like a little Halloween trip with the family,

spk_0 dressing up a little Frankie as a Frank putter and the whole deal.

spk_0 It'll be fun.

spk_0 Oh, yeah.

spk_0 Really hot.

spk_0 For recreational golfers, this is we have entered the best time of year.

spk_0 The fall foliage.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Ball golf.

spk_0 The views out there, the looks, the aesthetic of all the leaves changing colors,

spk_0 but like a lot of the certain parts of the country, a lot of that like golden hue

spk_0 in the Fescue and around the fairways and bunkers.

spk_0 The courses are so primo.

spk_0 A lot of them probably aerated a month or so ago.

spk_0 So they've now come in and you got another, you know, depending on where you live,

spk_0 you got another month, month and a half now to play.

spk_0 And these next three, four weeks are just as primo as it gets when you do get out there

spk_0 on the weekend, you play in the morning.

spk_0 And then when you get done on Saturday midday, there's college football day.

spk_0 When you get done Sunday midday, there's NFL football all day.

spk_0 It's just the primo time of the year if you're a recreational golfer over here right now.

spk_0 Yeah, it's Instagram worthy every hole, no matter where you're at right now.

spk_0 Like you can make the shittiest golf course look pretty.

spk_0 Every color of the trees is a different color.

spk_0 It's all change in yellow, orange, brown.

spk_0 It's amazing.

spk_0 I've got some good golf lined up hopefully the next couple of weeks.

spk_0 Hopefully it all comes through where I'm really going to try and take advantage of this ball foliage.

spk_0 I mean, it's so nice out like I'm looking right now like the weather.

spk_0 We're not getting any rain here on Long Island.

spk_0 So I'm sure that's going to change once I said this.

spk_0 But it's like it's 77 degrees today.

spk_0 And it's like you can't even imagine that in the middle of October beginning about

spk_0 that.

spk_0 Next week's going to be 72 degrees in sunny too.

spk_0 It's just sun and 70s.

spk_0 It's just it's perfect right now.

spk_0 Oh, it's a dream.

spk_0 It's a dream.

spk_0 I'm down in North Carolina for about three weeks right now.

spk_0 And it's just been like 70 and sunny every single day.

spk_0 So so yeah, get out there and enjoy it.

spk_0 Everybody make sure you enjoy this time of year because bang.

spk_0 Winter is going to hit.

spk_0 And then there's not going to be any golf for a lot of people for a long time.

spk_0 So make sure you get ready for that next week.

spk_0 It's going to rain all week.

spk_0 Actually, just look for forecast to that pie.

spk_0 Here's looks like rain over the next like five years.

spk_0 Saturday.

spk_0 That's good.

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spk_0 I saw a little, a little report here, live golf, UK is lost over $1.1 billion.

spk_0 You guys see this?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Yeah, this this report coming out, I guess I didn't realize it, but live golf, the UK and all that's about to enter.

spk_0 It's like fifth year, I guess coming up next year since its inception.

spk_0 It says live golf has lost over $1.1 billion.

spk_0 Accounts filed to the United Kingdom's company's house earlier this month.

spk_0 Evidence, live golf UK arm lost more than $461 million in 2024 alone.

spk_0 The 54 whole leagues UK based organization wound up losing 461.8 million in 2024 on top of almost 396 million in 2023.

spk_0 243 million in the 18 months until the end of 2022 in terms of revenue, live golf investments,

spk_0 limited, brought in $65 million last year and just over $37 million in 2023.

spk_0 So when you're sending out 1.1 billion and you've only got 65 million, 37 million coming in, just not a great sign.

spk_0 So I know we really last three, four months haven't talked about live golf much, which is wild.

spk_0 Because for about two years, it was the only thing that we talked about.

spk_0 It does seem to be a bit of an interesting development, whereas like it was the only thing.

spk_0 And we use like the barstable classic as a barometer a lot or talking to the phone with my dad as a barometer a lot of like what people in the golf world are talking about.

spk_0 They would always ask us about what do you think about this live what's going to happen for whatever reason haven't heard any of that really.

spk_0 I feel like in the last three or four months, like I said, and it's almost I don't know if it's them.

spk_0 If it's how successful it is felt like the PGA tour has been this year with Rory winning so many big events and winning the master's tournament with Scotty winning so many events.

spk_0 And winning two of the majors and all of that part of it, looking like it's so healthy, the ratings that kept it felt like CBS just kept posting every other week about like these record ratings that they were having biggest ratings have had in five, six years for this tournament that tournament all that.

spk_0 I guess maybe that is just sort of cleared the live verse PGA tour narrative like off the table for a little while.

spk_0 But yeah, when I saw that, I found that to be you know a little shocking and then my next takeaway was like man, it really does feel like we thought the game just cannot survive this divide forever.

spk_0 Something's going to have to happen. They're going to have to come together.

spk_0 And now it's almost like no, no, they can just like continue going as is and the tour is going to be fine and lives losing X amount of money and yeah.

spk_0 So it was just that's an interesting little tidbit for me. I didn't see it coming.

spk_0 Yeah, I think the reason it drove conversation initially is because disruption is interesting when you've got guys who are jumping from one tour to the other and it's big names and it's like holy shit.

spk_0 How many guys are going to jump? Is it going to be all of them? Is Rory going to jump? Is Tiger going to jump? What's the money? Wow, all these guys are getting paid.

spk_0 Is there going to be return on this money? Like there's a lot of talking points that you can get with disruption because it is super interesting.

spk_0 And it hadn't really happened to an established league or a tour like it happened to the PJ tour a couple of years ago.

spk_0 And then what happens and it's kind of what you were just talking about once that stops happening once the big names stop jumping.

spk_0 The less the less big names people can attach themselves to and be like what do you think about this guy going?

spk_0 And the more it becomes nameless faceless guys negotiating a deal that feels like it's never going to happen.

spk_0 It just becomes two golf leagues and that thing that on its face is not that interesting.

spk_0 It's just two professional golf leagues. We all thought like you said, oh my god something's got to give.

spk_0 It's got to break through at some point and they got to come together.

spk_0 Otherwise this sport that we love at a professional level is going to die.

spk_0 That was wrong. It's thriving. It's doing fine and it is because of the Rory's and the

spk_0 Scotties of the world who are just always going to bring up eyeballs no matter what tour they are part of.

spk_0 And live is just another golf tour and that is not interesting to talk about because it's like oh, oh they play events.

spk_0 The other one plays events. It's not as disruptive.

spk_0 It's not as spicy or salacious.

spk_0 It's just two two tours are just playing different golf events now.

spk_0 Yeah, I actually met a couple people from live at the rider cup after it all finished up.

spk_0 I was grabbing some food in the media center before I took the bus back to my car and a couple of people came over to me and

spk_0 introduced themselves. They definitely have a lot of new faces over there.

spk_0 I know it's a Scotto Neal that took over. He was like 76 years devils comes from like the NBA NHL.

spk_0 He runs like a huge partnership or a huge like global company and now he's taken over live as a new CEO.

spk_0 I do think they have ambitions to keep this thing going, keep competition strong and keep growing internationally.

spk_0 I know that's like the one thing that they really really like to hammer home is like they're going to be the ones that

spk_0 like to us it might not feel like it's making as much of an impact and I might just like be drinking their

spk_0 Kool-Aid because they're like you know they're throwing the pitch at me but like I understand this conversation.

spk_0 Well I was also like I was giving them a lot of honest feedback because you know they were hammering

spk_0 home the international stuff being like it might not feel as big of an impact for you guys.

spk_0 Like when we go to these places that do not get golf events and we're selling the amount of tickets that we

spk_0 are selling and we're making such a big impact like that feels really big to us and we think that if

spk_0 we continue to grow that it's going to make waves in ways that you might not it might not come across

spk_0 because I kept saying that we're coming across my desk. I'm like live stuff just doesn't get across my

spk_0 desk enough. When I wake up and I scroll I do my daily morning scroll and I check like the

spk_0 standings of the MLB and I check you know who's doing well at Islanders training camp and like I'm

spk_0 checking maybe I'll check the PGA tour to see how these guys doing max home is like playing in like

spk_0 the FedEx fall and he like just wants to be in the top 100 like certain like little stories

spk_0 catch my eye and I read into him and like that's my sports knowledge I'm a pretty

spk_0 avid sports fan it consumes my life I work for a sports company that way that's all we do we

spk_0 like literally talk about golf and live just doesn't get into my in across my desk like there's

spk_0 just no storyline that I'm picking up I don't care how the guys are playing and that's not because

spk_0 of anything politically or anything allegiance-wise because we have merchandise to PGA tour none of that

spk_0 matters it's just like the stuff just doesn't make waves right now in in my phone across my desk I'm

spk_0 not seeing it on ESPN I'm not seeing it so like I just said I don't know what the answer to that is

spk_0 you know I don't know that you're ever going to get the general public to care about just like good

spk_0 golf and like all the like you're making things like more accessible and easy for the players like

spk_0 I don't know the general public of viewing sports cares that they're playing like 54 holes instead of

spk_0 72 and I don't think they care that like the caddies are treated better like we just want to watch

spk_0 like big events that have real meaning like you know you you see the numbers like some of the

spk_0 lower tour events don't even get big numbers like you need to have the players or the masters or

spk_0 major or you got to have like the waste management Phoenix open where it's got to like have some

spk_0 sort of meaning somewhere for me to turn on my phone and like I'm a big golf fan so yeah I will

spk_0 check out maybe the more minuscule or like the minor you know not the big major events but

spk_0 the general public the reason why it's losing all this money it's like no one actually cares about

spk_0 all those little events like that they don't they don't just want to watch a couple guys golf and now

spk_0 with with YouTube there's so much golf viewing they have so much competition now like

spk_0 like that younger generation might just be like oh why would I watch that I'm gonna watch these

spk_0 guys on YouTube like that might be happening with a secondary tour we're already nervous about

spk_0 that with the PGA tour over the next 50 hundred years you know the the future of professional sports

spk_0 especially golf it might lean more towards this like YouTube world you never know so then you split

spk_0 that up into another tour and that's even getting less eyeballs on it so I don't know I really

spk_0 didn't have an answer for them as to why it wasn't like making it's mark on me and I wish I could

spk_0 have given them some like feedback I was just like it doesn't matter yet I kept saying that like

spk_0 nothing you guys do matters yet and they were like we like we understand like yeah I mean that

spk_0 makes sense right I'm like it doesn't matter this thing you're working really hard on it doesn't

spk_0 matter well no like it doesn't it doesn't actually have any meaning yet like I don't know it's true

spk_0 that's not their fault I kept saying it might be like just like a time thing I can might just

spk_0 need to be around for 20 years and then all of a sudden it has meaning I don't know what the

spk_0 answer is I don't have it for you I'm like that's why you guys are getting paid to like figure that

spk_0 out I'm like I hope you do figure it out because one day I'd like to like see it work and I'm with you

spk_0 I'm not I would never say to them either like I doubt that it has it doesn't have any meaning to

spk_0 anyone there or to John Rom I'm sure it does but you're right that for the larger like capturing

spk_0 that juice I am with you even when that when it has a great finish at most of the events it's like

spk_0 it just doesn't transcend for me to where I'm like that's a huge deal whereas it still feels like

spk_0 when somebody wins a pga tour event even if it's one of the lower level ones a lot of times that

spk_0 almost has more meaning than when Scotty Schuffler wins another one because that person they get

spk_0 a two-year exemption on the pga tour it was like their lifelong dream they're showing all these

spk_0 photos of them going to the course of their dad and their grandpa and it was like their lifelong

spk_0 dream was to be on a pga tour and win a pga tour event everybody can understand that and like

spk_0 this doesn't it still doesn't quite feel like that's anybody's lifelong dream it's still kind of feels like

spk_0 you know almost like the FedEx Cup playoffs every event where it's like no they just threw money

spk_0 at something to make it seem like it's super important and like maybe over time it will be

spk_0 and there are certain spots where it clearly is I think like the live golf adelaide which is the

spk_0 Australian one right where it's like they got the party hold they got the big crowds it looks like

spk_0 there's places where clearly going and experiencing it I'm sure would feel like when you're there like

spk_0 oh shit this matters here and I put I just put that on my list my goal is I'm gonna go to a live

spk_0 golf event in 2026 never been to one before I don't believe anybody here on this show has been to a

spk_0 live golf event I would love to go check it out see if I feel any different in in real time but

spk_0 you know it is like there's there's either a life changing element or career changing element for

spk_0 most people that win on the pga tour or there's like a legacy changing element depending on who it is

spk_0 it's like when Rory wins one of these events it's like that is going down and and adding and

spk_0 padding to this all time golf career and legacy and you're like fuck yeah I can feel that same with

spk_0 Scotty Shepler when he wins one of these tour events obviously the bigger ones you're winning the

spk_0 memorial you're winning the players championship it it means a ton but it's like when you're adding

spk_0 them up you're starting to look at the historical context being like oh shit Scotty Shepler is now

spk_0 120 you know 20 events and he's got a better career than Jordan's beef and he's done all of it in

spk_0 like two and a half years and it's like there's this element to it that you you can perceive and

spk_0 understand how meaningful it is and I'm with you where it's like that just doesn't feel like it's

spk_0 that meaningful and when it does come across on the social clips it hasn't quite gotten there yet

spk_0 I commend them for trying to get there it'd be cool if they do get there because the more golf

spk_0 tournaments that exist that everybody seems to care about and they come off as like really important

spk_0 is only better for our game but I'm 100% with you frankly it just doesn't feel important when I see

spk_0 anything about it Frank you brought up a good point they have made it easier for the players like

spk_0 they're like you're gonna play less and you're gonna make more and for the viewer you're like

spk_0 awesome that sounds awesome like 54 you're gonna play 72 you're gonna play 54 and the viewers are like

spk_0 awesome it's like you know you know you know you know you're not a ton of value they're for us I

spk_0 listen looking back I get why the Bryson's and the Patrick Reads and the ROMs like they're like

spk_0 here you go here's a fuck ton of money and you're gonna do less somebody offers that to me I'm like

spk_0 oh I want to do less but I want to make more but it doesn't do a ton for yeah what are they doing

spk_0 to get like in front of people and like making the product better that I don't know yeah I mean they

spk_0 they definitely have like promising stats in terms of like fan like actual fan engagement at the

spk_0 events because like when they go internationally they sell out the numbers are crazy I know in Chicago

spk_0 they had a really big turnout in Dallas I think they were saying like maybe it was last year they

spk_0 had like 50,000 people show up over the three days but I mean I that's like that's not zero people

spk_0 right like that's a lot of people going to watch a live event like that is making somewhat of an

spk_0 impact but I think maybe similar to like GGL where like when you're there it's a really awesome

spk_0 experience and it is awesome to you know they got the music they've got more access to the players

spk_0 guys are being more interactive stuff like that it's just it hasn't some for some for one

spk_0 reason or another it just hasn't made its way through mainstream media yet which is fine because

spk_0 they're still in their infancy stage I'm sure they don't feel that way because they're losing a

spk_0 billion dollars over three or four years which is you know it feels like we got to turn things

spk_0 around pretty quick but like to us you know it's when we're looking back in 25 years if live is

spk_0 successful this is this is the beginning and that's kind of what I was telling them like I hope

spk_0 you know you guys write the ship because I mean you guys are only in the beginning you look

spk_0 back to third year the NHL I'm sure it was a shitchell you guys just happen to be publicly losing

spk_0 a billion dollars over the last couple of years you got to you got to turn this around um

spk_0 so yeah I mean if you look online too like Scott O'Neill's like vision board is to like

spk_0 create storylines uh for all the players and like find those PGA tour like storylines of the

spk_0 guys that are just making it or the guys that are the breakout players because that is what they

spk_0 need they need people to care about those stories and then those carry over into the majors and then

spk_0 if they do all the majors they bring them back to live and that's how you start to build legitimate

spk_0 like juice around something that's what that's what that's what you need it really might just be time

spk_0 because we've talked we've talked about this for years now where it's just it might just take time

spk_0 to build it because we were born into a world where the PGA tour had been running for decades and

spk_0 we're just like all right this is the league that I'm gonna follow this is the tour that I'm gonna

spk_0 follow and yeah it's tough losing a billion dollars a year I don't know how sustainable that is

spk_0 now the backers have lived there's a lot of opinions about those folks but they have a lot of money

spk_0 so they might be able to to you know creditable amount of money they got a credit a lot of money

spk_0 that's built up people would say the most and they might have the means and I'm sure they do

spk_0 it really depends on the patience of it do you do you want to let it develop do you want to keep it

spk_0 going that I don't know what that decision will be yeah look at the rider cup the rider cups are

spk_0 great example of like they're you know the rider cup wasn't the rider cup you know there was like

spk_0 and talked about this was Shane Ryan quite a bit where I was like what what year or years would

spk_0 you point to of like when the rider cup became the rider cup and he was kind of going through it

spk_0 talking he's like there's three different kind of like moments and if you go look in the fact

spk_0 that like we're talking about something just everyone being able to tell that something is

spk_0 incredibly meaningful to the point where the European players have now been able to find this

spk_0 wedge issue being like we don't even want to get paid we would we would pay to be here and that's how

spk_0 meaningful this whole thing is the point where in 2009 Roy McRoy made those comments about like it's

spk_0 just an exhibition I don't even care about that why would I care about that till like 16 years later

spk_0 he's bawling his eyes out and emotional and it's the most meaningful thing he could ever have so

spk_0 right even something like the rider cup just having a little bit more time just for that individual

spk_0 person dramatically changed how meaningful it was to him and when you go back and and look through

spk_0 and it was like up until the early 80s there was like sevy was locked left off a team and like

spk_0 kicked off the team not invited the team in like the early 80s and then by the mid 80s Europe had

spk_0 totally revamped their team they're finally able to get a win on foreign soil and then you go to

spk_0 the war by the shore in the early 90s and like the rider cup became with the rider cup is and that's

spk_0 in our lifetime that's happened that's changed so much so it's like it might just be more time it might

spk_0 just be like now you guys aren't doing you aren't doing things in this dramatically wrong way like

spk_0 everybody maybe makes mistakes you make tweaks you try to improve the product but like it might just

spk_0 be the need time the difference nowadays is the level of scrutiny and how fast it happens

spk_0 like when you're doing this in the 70s or the 60s you're operating where it's only newspapers and

spk_0 like radio broadcasts and some TV news broadcasts now if you lose a billion dollars in a year

spk_0 everybody knows about it instantly and that instantly becomes that thing obviously doesn't work

spk_0 give up on it stop trying to do it it's never gonna work so that is the difference to me where

spk_0 things tjls a good example of that as well where things get scrutinized so quickly and they get

spk_0 this negative narrative around them that people give up on it and people stop watching and then it

spk_0 just ends immediately see it's it's a product of like not giving things a chance in a in a highly

spk_0 like media saturated time yeah and it might be working and we just don't realize it like we I mean

spk_0 there might be people gravitating towards it you got Bryson de Shambot who's one of your stars

spk_0 who weekly puts out videos that are getting three four million views on you allegedly I think those

spk_0 are bots Frankie I think we confirmed those are all bots uh you know those might be just generating

spk_0 more hype and views towards the tournament that he plays in like if he's got all these fans they might

spk_0 start to move towards wanting to watch him all the time and like you know I bring up YouTube a lot

spk_0 when I'm comparing this but like they're doing live tools which is like a YouTube series that

spk_0 lives on Grant Borvath's channel or the Bryan Brothers channel like that does really well and like

spk_0 they have all their players playing in that so like they are finding these little categories that

spk_0 they can do well in and that might generate you know business for the full thing like that that

spk_0 might be what you know they're doing really well in that in that area I mean Phil Mickelson has

spk_0 a channel with Grant Horvath does really really well like Phil Mickelson is a live player all these

spk_0 live guys are doing really well on YouTube so it's an interesting play and I think it might be the

spk_0 one that might work going forward my suspicion with that and my gut says the further we go with YouTube

spk_0 and personality like Bryson and Phil there will be more Bryson fans as opposed to I watched this golf

spk_0 league or this golf league like I know we're not like PGA tour fans like we know I don't that's true

spk_0 but like I don't but like I don't know if I like they live really does have the number one golfer

spk_0 in terms of eyeballs on planet earth and yeah again it could be a time thing where it's like they

spk_0 haven't crossed over yet to the point where they're like all right I found this guy Bryson I like him

spk_0 what's his deal what what tour does he play on and but to me it seems like it hasn't yet and they

spk_0 already have the number one guy and if you're a Bryson De Shambow fan you are you're a fan of his

spk_0 YouTube channel I don't know how much further it's gonna go than that you might just be like I

spk_0 love Bryson and I'm just gonna watch Bryson videos now if you are live you got to be hoping that

spk_0 there's some crossover that that Bryson is a funnel from him to live to the broadcast to the

spk_0 tour to everything I just we haven't seen any evidence of that it's still early for sure but my

spk_0 gut and my suspicion is that people just like yeah I like Bryson I watch his videos yeah dude

spk_0 demore it's they think of it Bryson is an incredible human being and and thing in the world of golf

spk_0 he's incredible to the fact that he is just full time all in on YouTube creating content

spk_0 letting people in he's chipping over to giving away Bentley's he's chipping over his house he's

spk_0 doing and then he's also going out and like competing on the hitting the first t-shirt of the rider

spk_0 driving it up near the green he's winning us like the fact that he is able to do all these things

spk_0 you can't you couldn't make that up if you tried like it was almost like happy Gilmore too

spk_0 was almost like not even as ridiculous of like the fact that Bryson De Shambow like exists and

spk_0 is what he is it's like they did a whole storyline almost about him where it's like they just

spk_0 kind of magnified it a little bit and he's an enigma man and it is interesting like seeing that

spk_0 it's sort of I guess I would call it a little bit of like a disconnect between like Bryson is

spk_0 from an eyeballs standpoint view standpoint as big as it gets the the series that he comes up with on

spk_0 social crush it the stuff that he does on YouTube crushes it when he's at a tournament he has the

spk_0 biggest crowds that say kids coming out everywhere trying to get autographs everything yet like the ratings

spk_0 people just don't really watch him on live even close to the conversion rate that you might expect

spk_0 and that part of it is is interesting it might just be people would rather see like I truly would

spk_0 rather watch Bryson try to go shoot the course record at one of these local courses in Dallas I

spk_0 love that series then like tune in necessarily to see if he finishes fourth on live on Sunday I

spk_0 just like that I find that more entertaining yeah yeah I mean I'm looking at the numbers it's

spk_0 really hard because they're not as you know CBS and NBC and wherever the PJ tour is

spk_0 is broadcast it obviously gets way more eyeballs than what live is doing but you know you

spk_0 put up the head-to-head final rounds average from 2025 live golf average approximately 175,000

spk_0 viewers to the PGA tour 3.1 million now the other side of that is live is saying that

spk_0 there are so many other engagements on TikTok and YouTube and Twitter and Instagram that they're

spk_0 absolutely dominating which I don't have the facts or stats to back that up but we've said that

spk_0 to the PGA tour before we're at some point you're gonna have to stop saying like this is this is like

spk_0 the only thing that sells like the viewership on the Nielsen rating of the 3.1 million people that

spk_0 watch that day is not the only people that are watching golf like the people that might be watching

spk_0 Bryson DeChambo might be just wanting to see how he didn't live when they do like the 9 and 90

spk_0 recap on the lives TikTok might get like 10 million views I don't know what the numbers are but they're

spk_0 probably pretty happy with what's going on in terms of like the younger audience the engagement

spk_0 you know I even have to talk to those people at the rider cup like I don't think that they feel like

spk_0 it's a freaking that they're that dog meme where they're in a burning house I feel like they

spk_0 they think they have a lot of momentum especially if you're on that team and you're going to these

spk_0 international events and you see 100,000 people showing up to an event and you're in a you're in a

spk_0 country that never got to see professional golf and they're all starting to get all hoopla you

spk_0 know hooting and hollering and they're like we love this sport we want to generate some professional

spk_0 golfers from this they want to play in the live golf league because that's the first golf that we've

spk_0 ever seen that that to me I think gets the people going over there again full circle to close this

spk_0 thing up on my end just hasn't crossed my desk which I don't know I'm just like the average American

spk_0 viewer of sports right that's just like kind of how my brain operates that doesn't mean that that's

spk_0 to say all be all on what's successful and what's like what's good and what's not yeah it's just

spk_0 what I what I what peaks my interest there's a lot of weird things that peak my interest I'm a

spk_0 weird dude right like I'm a weird you know I'm not you know I'm watching the pit I'm watching all

spk_0 these weird weird shit I'm just not watching live right now maybe one day they'll get me to watch it

spk_0 it is amazing to me going back to something you said that there isn't a formula for

spk_0 Neilson plus tick tock plus instagram plus twit it's 2025 and the internet's been around for a while

spk_0 there needs to be somebody smarter than the three guys here and I remember when we brought it up

spk_0 at a PJ tour meeting and we were like you guys got to figure out a way to track everything and they

spk_0 were like we simply don't have that and nobody seems to have it but the fact that how influential

spk_0 the internet has become and will continue to be the fact that there's not some sort of formula

spk_0 that ain't an incredibly smart data person has come up with where it's like here's the score for

spk_0 this for this you know platform this platform that platform you add them all together and that's

spk_0 your actual impact is is pretty nuts that were 25 years into the 2000s that we don't have one

spk_0 I couldn't believe that answer when we asked that question in the creator council meeting and

spk_0 you know look like barst will be chouse is an incredible example of like yes Dave went

spk_0 fully the other way with it of like there will be zero Neilson rating zero youtube views zero

spk_0 anything the entire operation is going to live on just engagements and views on social media and

spk_0 that to me like I'm so curious are they you know of the tour and live are they leveraging

spk_0 these deals with sponsors to include ads or watermarks or logos on social clips because it is

spk_0 like even even me is like we host a golf podcast I very rarely except for the big tournaments and

spk_0 like sitting there glued into every shot on Saturday or Sunday of a PGA tournament but I know all

spk_0 the big stuff that happens through all the social clips so it's like if you are sanderson farms

spk_0 paying for you know this this sponsorship on a show do you just get a commercial every 15 minutes

spk_0 on TV or are they able to leverage it saying no we know we might be getting two million people

spk_0 that watches on Sunday but guess what we're going to get 15 million views and impressions over the

spk_0 course of four days that like we need to integrate your sponsorship dollars into so like they have

spk_0 to be doing something or evolving towards that either now or at some point because if they're not

spk_0 and it's like the number one way people are viewing your product isn't sellable to you that's

spk_0 that's crazy town if that's true totally yeah I mean it's with our own business like that what we

spk_0 hear like we're not just selling YouTube views like when we talk to a partner or sponsor we're

spk_0 able to sell the whole entire package and those numbers are like astronomically larger than people

spk_0 listening and that's probably even think like the number of the reach through TikTok Twitter

spk_0 Instagram Facebook YouTube it like the blog it just keeps going and going and going you you you

spk_0 may see a video that has 220,000 views on YouTube but like that to that partner after all the clips

spk_0 have been posted all the views have been tally it's in the millions that the tens of millions

spk_0 sometimes so it is crazy that they haven't come up with a formula on that I'm sure live is

spk_0 probably thinking that they're going to be the ones that you know are this is their new frontier

spk_0 that they're going to dominate that younger audience on all those platforms and good on them if

spk_0 they're the first ones to get to it if they're if they're better at it than the PGA tour they'll be

spk_0 more successful over the next 30 40 50 years because that's who they're going to be selling to

spk_0 that's really the fight that's what like the frontiers it's like the younger audience that is

spk_0 obsessed with golf now because of the Bryce of the Shambos because the Sky Shepherd's

spk_0 Murray McRoy all these people that are really really really good right now they have to be really

spk_0 good on social which they are and then bang now you have a league that's all in on that that's how

spk_0 you capitalize on it I don't know what that number is on how many hours I'm on my phone every day

spk_0 like screen time it was it like six hours you know what I mean it's like a ridiculous amount there's

spk_0 no way you're on there's no way you're on like you're watching TV for that many hours so it's just

spk_0 like that's just something that it's where everything's going I'm sure and hopefully there's smart

spk_0 people that kind of understand all that but yeah if we could give them the advice it would be

spk_0 maybe they are doing better there and and keep going keep cranking I you know I mean I'm a

spk_0 follower of all the live golf league stuff I'm a follower of a bunch of different of the teams I see

spk_0 a lot of the stuff that they do I enjoy like I very much enjoy the nine and 90s or three holes with

spk_0 like John wrong before they're getting ready for a live event I consume the shit out of those it's

spk_0 like same reason we post our own it's like that's just good entertaining you know consumable content

spk_0 we like I do want to see how this person that I'm invested in is playing and it's quick and it's

spk_0 quick hitter you don't have to invest in the entire tournament so so yeah I think bottom line lives

spk_0 losing 1.1 billion they've lost just in the UK thing and the end of the day like Frankie said

spk_0 originally probably got to turn that around at some point maybe they got a better grasp on it

spk_0 then it can appear but I yeah I I don't think it's my main takeaway is like we're not really

spk_0 at the same spot it felt like we were in maybe a year ago where everybody's like the two leagues

spk_0 just can't exist to get like actually maybe they kind of can and like everything will be fine

spk_0 sort of what I mean we also see that number and I'm sure business people that are smarter than us

spk_0 understand like how they got to that number and I remember when I was working really close

spk_0 it with Dave I was like it's right hand man and he was dealing with all these different sports

spk_0 books and all the different strategies as to how they approached their business model and like some

spk_0 would like you know when bar stool was basically on its own we were like the marketing engine so you

spk_0 don't have to put that much money out there to try and get people to sign up for the app but like

spk_0 other brands would have to spend a ton of money just to get people locked in get a user name and

spk_0 once you're in there you know like now you're a fan for life right you're in there and like you're

spk_0 that's your company that's who you're gonna work with so like they'll spend a ton of money and

spk_0 I'm sure like Coca-Cola and all these different brands they do the same thing where it's like you

spk_0 dump a ton of money into just getting eyeballs on this thing and then the whole marketing and that

spk_0 like the first five or 10 years is like we're gonna have losses that are unimaginable but it will

spk_0 hopefully generate into lifelong fans and then we'll start to see the returns after and we'll be

spk_0 able to pull back the spending as much so I mean I don't know if that's the same model I just know

spk_0 that like big massive companies have done that before where it's like you know you'll see these brands

spk_0 that you can't believe don't generate a profit you know like how is that possible yeah yeah you see

spk_0 their end of year lines and you're like what like that not that company loses money from year to

spk_0 year and it's like well no they're just trying to get as many people doing their thing or wearing

spk_0 their stuff or whatever it might be as possible and then the hope is it flips it's a great book

spk_0 because I just looked it up too and it's like the NFL is expected to do over $25 billion a year

spk_0 in revenue I think they did over $23 billion dollars last year and so then if you went told someone

spk_0 like hey we're gonna go try to compete grab x percentage of this market share of the NFL we're

spk_0 gonna lose 10 billion dollars over 10 years doing it I think people would be like yeah it's worth

spk_0 the risk because if that works out you're gonna have this unbelievably impactful business league

spk_0 the whole thing so yes you do kind of see that number of like 1.1 billion sunk in golf ain't the

spk_0 NFL and so like how can you split them and how is there gonna be this road to the profitability but

spk_0 it's like that also doesn't I would guess four or five years ago that that number would not have

spk_0 surprised the incredibly rich people that are behind it they I think that they probably have been

spk_0 like oh yeah no we know that's pretty much what we're that's what we're trying to do we're trying

spk_0 to gain you know Yosser's trying to get a membership at August and become more influential in

spk_0 Western culture like he's gonna take over a little bit of golf and so bottom line we're probably

spk_0 not all smart to figure all that out I did think that number was you know a little bit surprising

spk_0 and maybe if they're still kind of confident on their side it's going better than we think and

spk_0 on the other side of it maybe it's not and they can't just keep losing money forever so so yeah

spk_0 that's the latest live talk I'm a talk live Amazon was the one I was thinking of I'm sure you've

spk_0 listened to some sort of podcast about how you put all the money back into it and just never ever

spk_0 ever made a profit for like a decade I was like we're gonna get this as many people with an

spk_0 Amazon account as possible and at some point that's just gonna be a way of life that they're gonna use

spk_0 that and then they're gonna be the richest company of all time I don't know how that works for

spk_0 golf but I think it's the same idea they're like we don't care about losing almost my plus they

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spk_0 are real real nice they have those spikes too on the bottom just makes you feel so solid I've

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spk_0 been traveling a lot as usual and I've been on a bad run of getting delayed and my day gets messed

spk_0 up and my eating schedule gets messed up but I throw a couple of these one bars double chocolate in my

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spk_0 delicious quick shout out to our boy Alistair Dockery finished hide for third this past weekend on

spk_0 the old corn fairy tour they're in the corn fairy tour finals they only got one event left

spk_0 French lick is the corn fairy tour championship this next weekend folks will call it's been one

spk_0 year ago where Alistair finished one stroke one stroke out of getting his PGA tour card win

spk_0 both those fellas made like a 12 footer and an 8 footer on the last hole 71 or the 72nd hole

spk_0 the last hole of the entire corn fairy tour season if one of those two pucks would have missed

spk_0 Al would be on the PGA tour right now with his PGA tour card not still kind of grinding out

spk_0 there on the on the corn fairy tour but if folks recall right before the U.S. Open we had him on

spk_0 he of course got into a car accident that as anybody would imagine messed up his year quite a bit

spk_0 but very very nice to see Al playing well he's got essentially I believe the same corn fairy tour

spk_0 status pretty much locked up for next year and now it's just all about he's got to win if he wins

spk_0 this next week he's going to have a PGA tour card if he doesn't we keep running this damn game

spk_0 back and trying to get through the corn fairy tour which is an absolute grind we kind of mentioned

spk_0 it but last year it was top 30 players on the corn fairy tour get their PGA tour card now it's

spk_0 the top 20 so when they getting an easier out there but regardless a great week you shot 23 under

spk_0 par there was a 26 under par and then there's a 33 under par who won the event so you got to go

spk_0 low out there but really solid week for Mr. Dockery yeah I actually checked in on where he was at

spk_0 a couple weeks ago so a lot of miscuts and I was just like damn like Alicist is just not firing the

spk_0 way that was last year but obviously I actually forgot about the car accident and like how much that

spk_0 derail everything that you've got going on all the momentum physically mentally everything that's

spk_0 going on with this guy's gone through I mean over the last three years is absolutely insane the

spk_0 fact that he's still grinding out there I mean yes he has won a couple of events and done well

spk_0 enough to like keep himself solid and like he's probably not as financially screwed as he used to be

spk_0 but like still grinding from event to event wanting to get that card to cure his financials

spk_0 here the rest of his life this is his goal this is his dream he's so close to it last year

spk_0 like you want to keep saying like that was the year that was the chance it's like each year we

spk_0 keep coming up with these things or it's like God that now that was the chance that was a chance

spk_0 it's got to be so mentally exhausting for him absolutely absolutely to get that close and you know

spk_0 I know too like he he believes I think we all kind of believe that like he probably has a better

spk_0 PGA tour golf game than he does core fair tour golf game where it's like he's ball striking is

spk_0 phenomenal he hits the ball long and straight almost the longer a club you have in his hand

spk_0 the better he is so the tougher golf course setups that you play he might have more of an advantage

spk_0 there than he does when it's more of a wedging cutting contest which he's not as he doesn't have

spk_0 as much of an advantage over the field as he does so all that it's like if we can just get on the

spk_0 tour guys we'll be in fucking great spot it's like we're getting we're getting close but yeah it's

spk_0 you know a lot of ups and downs that's what it is we've had him come on next week I will be here

spk_0 in Pyners with me so we'll get him back on the show and do just sort of the whole update I know we

spk_0 had him on right before the US Open and he was talking us all the way through that final round he's

spk_0 almost like withdrew after the first round of that 36th whole day and then all of a sudden turned

spk_0 it on a qualified for the US Open so again a lot of ups and downs this isn't up he just again

spk_0 finished third hell of a week out down the corn fairy tour there's only one event left French lick

spk_0 we gotta go out and win it so any support you could throw mr. Alistair docker these way I know he

spk_0 would appreciate the hell out of that and a great again a great week last week for him oh quick

spk_0 just a quick acknowledgement to Colton Slees over there on sub bar we played this Paul Azinger

spk_0 clip last week and then it kind of got caught that we gave him credit so love you Colt text

spk_0 be about it love you Colt love you Slees that's on us and I know that we have laugh before about

spk_0 when people don't give us credit and so to be fair credit to them they got that phenomenal

spk_0 Paul Azinger clip where he was kind of going in on Rory be like if you're gonna if you're gonna be

spk_0 FU in the fans and you can't be sitting in the press conference afterwards saying that golf is

spk_0 all about this high decorum and the whole deal we kind of responded and talked about that clip so

spk_0 shout out to again Colt and Slees sub bar make sure you check those guys out on their show all right

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spk_0 hey fellas I think we need to get rid of the gimme puts obviously in the writer cup and other

spk_0 match plays scenarios that we have in the pga but in baseball if you don't touch all the bases

spk_0 after a home run it's not going to count the home run doesn't count so ball and hole obviously for

spk_0 weekend warriors whatever the gimme puts pace of play but there's no pace of play issue in the

spk_0 writer cup with four or five groups out there at a time it just doesn't make it and get it in the

spk_0 home make roory hit a six inch area maybe he misses it I don't know that's just the thoughts

spk_0 didn't he start that saying I understand and like the writer cup and match play format and then he

spk_0 finished it being like in the writer cup we need to put all our balls I think yeah he did kind of

spk_0 say that I think he just wants to see roory miss six inch area now that's just like he I think

spk_0 he's saying keep it or get rid of him in the those events but keep them for pace play like

spk_0 amuse and stuff I believe that's what he meant yeah gimme's are interesting gimme's are always

spk_0 going to be interesting you know and there's like there's uh the writer cup it on that level I kind

spk_0 of I kind of get what you're saying where it's like nothing that we do out there when we're playing

spk_0 with our pals on the weekend fall golf we're all fired up about fall golf like really matters on any

spk_0 level whatsoever so if you're given little gimme puts to keep moving and you don't think your pal is

spk_0 gonna miss it you don't even want to give him the opportunity to miss it because your

spk_0 really buddies out here having a good time at the end of the day completely get it where he's like

spk_0 kind of making the point of like the writer cup is so intense and there's so much uh scrutiny

spk_0 and back and forth that like just don't give anybody anything I remember what was it two years ago

spk_0 it was like uh Ricky Fowler gave Tommy Fleetwood like a two two and a half foot downhill or to win

spk_0 the writer cup is the final last point yeah and it was like there's no way that they weren't going to

spk_0 win the writer cup we lost by like five Ricky of like hit one on the water and all that but still

spk_0 I remember people just being like now you kind of got to make it to win the writer cup so I could kind

spk_0 of see that part of it yeah totally um it's I mean I like it because it adds an element of like

spk_0 not giving it give it and then you can also like put put the got you can put kind of the pressure

spk_0 on a player when you don't say anything and they feel it that's a different um element that you

spk_0 don't normally get in golf which I really really like I mean when I was following those guys on

spk_0 Sunday the crowd was really on the Europeans about like you know Fitsy on 11 wasn't given someone

spk_0 a pot and it's like they're screaming at how you're not going to give that to him now the player

spk_0 hears that right so it's like there's just something there's something different about that that I

spk_0 really really enjoy and it's like you know when are you going to decide to put the pressure on the

spk_0 person and when are you going to decide to be nice it's a strategic card that you can hold in

spk_0 your pocket it allows players to show what their personality is like and how they feel about

spk_0 the other people that they're playing against and I think that's important like in the writer cup

spk_0 if you're just hitting balls on the green then it's like all right everybody's got to make these

spk_0 putts and tell them they're in and then that's the score and that's what the match is going to be at

spk_0 it adds a layer of like exactly what Frank he's talking about where it's like all right you know

spk_0 you're giving them early but you're not giving them late and they're they're feeling that and then

spk_0 maybe you don't give them one that you should have given them one now you're pissed at the guy

spk_0 now you're not giving him short putts that you should give and then it gets chippy like to

spk_0 completely eliminate that element of match play certainly in writer cups I think would be a huge

spk_0 mistake yeah yeah yeah yeah I I like it I've always kind of liked it I also love the good good

spk_0 like offering you know I find that part of match play is so fun when you're playing a little 2v2

spk_0 with your teammates and maybe you're doing a writer cup buddies trip once or twice a year with

spk_0 some friends you go out and like you're on the 17th hole and you've got a 4.5 footer and the other

spk_0 guy's got a 3.5 footer and you look at him and you're like you want to go good good and just go

spk_0 down to 18 and then that moment for that guy is huge because then he looks at his partner and he's

spk_0 like should I take it and the car parker's like do you think you're going to miss it and then you're

spk_0 like then if you like don't take it and then I you know the guy that's far their way makes it now

spk_0 he's put all the pressure on the planet earth on you because you didn't take good good and now you

spk_0 have a chance to lose the hole so I actually do think it's a really like compelling part of the game

spk_0 it's also like there's nothing else like it in other sports and I can think of like you've never

spk_0 like an hockey you're never like yep that's a goal take it like nice goal there you know that's

spk_0 just yeah it's like you don't everything has to be final and every other sport and it is almost

spk_0 this like shout out to Rory it's like this gentlemanly aspect of the game of golf where you're like

spk_0 you're not going to miss that sir that's as good by me you know it's like it's just an interesting

spk_0 element yeah no I love the element dude it also like giving puts and then like expecting them

spk_0 is a really funny like part of the game too yeah you've been super generous like like I just played

spk_0 a matcha day with one of my best buddies and we were playing a 1v1 at colonial like the wind was

spk_0 up and it was just like a real battle out there and like I was up and we were doing like two down

spk_0 auto press I was up four through four and then I'm up to on the press and like I'm just murdering

spk_0 this guy he's making like seven seven seven eight and I was being like super generous the whole way

spk_0 right like he'd hit it out of bounds on two I'm like just drop up there and just hit three like you

spk_0 not reteens or anything let's just drop and go and like there were other times where like like

spk_0 we actually wanted to skip the group ahead of us was like you guys can come like you guys can go

spk_0 through us so then I was putting for par he was in the he was in the bunker for par and I'm like let's

spk_0 just pick this up go to the next t I'm like we're all square on this whole so like I'm being super

spk_0 nice and generous and then like I was up maybe five at one point and then it dwindled down to I was

spk_0 up two and he's making me put like three like you know three inches and two I'm looking up at him

spk_0 like do not remember the fact the only reason this match is even alive is because I let you pick up

spk_0 a ball of the bunker and like you can't say that which I dig is no my best buddies I said to him I'm

spk_0 like you're an asshole is insane like I remember I missed like a two footer and he's like down to

spk_0 I'm like you're nuts like you should be down 10 like I let him at one point there was a ball that

spk_0 was on like on the edge of the water and I'm like take it into the grass I'm like that's bullshit

spk_0 that's bullshit like you know I'm like you're not gonna ruin your outfit and hit out of the water

spk_0 I'm like just hit on the grass and like he made it up and down to like time me there and the next

spk_0 totally made me put like a one footer that I miss and he's like down one like this nuts

spk_0 I'm like I'm putting the ball in the hole for an element of it yeah that is a great element of it

spk_0 I'm like you're I'm putting a ball in the hole for you and then you're like all over me about

spk_0 these puts right now and yeah he ended up holding like 10 bucks at the end of the day I'm like you

spk_0 should owe me a hundred dollars see this is why what was our callers name again this is why we can't

spk_0 get rid of the game is this is incredible it's such a mental it's such a mental head game and it's

spk_0 yeah I I also like there was when me and Frankie had our match at Beth Page a couple weeks ago I

spk_0 remember like the very first hole I had a putt that rolled out to like three three and a half beat

spk_0 and it's like to tie the hole with bogey and I remember nobody said a word but you're walking around

spk_0 being like this is a very first hole this is how it's gonna go today huh yeah okay you know and it's

spk_0 like you just do you kind of get that mindset of like wait till you have a fucking three and a half

spk_0 footer bitch totally I can't you like can't help it and I think that part of it is awesome

spk_0 um all right let's do we got another uh yeah another voicemail there Ryan Richon

spk_0 that guy by the way didn't give a name he was a nameless person nameless man the nameless man

spk_0 we're keeping give me puss hey boy it's Chris from Ridgewater New Jersey love the show

spk_0 not to trigger any PTSD or anything but just curious Frankie and Trent would you do the one chip

spk_0 challenge again if it meant you could play a gusta love to hear your thoughts oh man oh wow

spk_0 I don't I'll I'm gonna partly answer for Frankie where I want to say I don't know if your body

spk_0 can handle another hot chip the clips from that the stills from that the aftermath of that like you

spk_0 almost cease to exist that that day in the office yeah if I could do it in an emergency room I would

spk_0 probably do it that hot chip ruined me so badly for so many weeks and months I think it's still

spk_0 I think I have like an ulcer from that I think my stomach has never truly been the same

spk_0 I don't do well with heat I legitimately got like I had an allergic reaction to that hot

spk_0 chip my face exploded I was crying I was huking I stuck a fucking I mean you know this is this is

spk_0 as gruesome as it gets but like I stuck a freaking crescent moon shaped ice cube up my ass hole

spk_0 later that night I mean it was it was hotter coming out that I would go in and um it was

spk_0 really really bad I mean to play a gustah like mate like I probably would do it one more time

spk_0 just to say like I mean you have to go like you're not getting a chance to go play a gustah so

spk_0 like just eat the hot chip deal with the pain for like 10 hours and then go on your way but I'd

spk_0 need like IV bags and everything around me I did not do well with that hot chip and the taste

spk_0 of it and like what it did dude having the milk and everything after that has like ruined spice

spk_0 for me like I actually whenever I have something that even is close to similar of that taste of that

spk_0 hot chip I taste like milk and like my mouth gets all like hot it's weird it is PTSD it my brain and

spk_0 my body go into like shock whenever I have like a buffalo wing or something it's bizarre I mean I

spk_0 would do it I had I didn't have as bad of a reaction of Frank I don't think it's possible to have

spk_0 a worse reaction than what Frank had but it does ruin at least 24 hours of your bowel movements

spk_0 the way your stomach feels the way your brain feels like you are signing up for a pretty

spk_0 halacious 24 to 48 hours but if a gust of national is on the other side I would do it I'm not

spk_0 going to enjoy eating the chip but with that on the line I think you have to do it but it's a

spk_0 fucking brutal process I didn't do it but I boy when you get destroyed like that for that long

spk_0 I had like a hot chicken wing yesterday that was one of the most hot things I've ever had and I

spk_0 was ruined for an hour or so when you're just like get me water get me everything I'm going to die so

spk_0 yeah that's a that's a that's a tough one I think it's overall it's an easy yes though I mean like

spk_0 you just get through it it sucks and then once you're like later that night you're like all right

spk_0 let's pack the bag for Augusta you know I think you got to do it I think everybody's doing it

spk_0 you know I think if you're gonna if you're gonna be a golfer you got to pretty much say yes to

spk_0 that one all day every day but yeah thank you Chris from New Jersey so we appreciate that I saw

spk_0 a stat I don't know if this is true or not I was trying to find it on the internet somebody said

spk_0 this stat to me over the course of the weekend how many how many players total this year do you

spk_0 think have beaten Scotty Shephard total number of players that have like played in a golf tournament

spk_0 and defeated Scotty Shephard in that golf tournament oh wow you got to think he's averaged like a top

spk_0 10 number for the whole year like he's like his average place is probably like eight or seven I

spk_0 don't even know what that I'm I'm gonna say I'm gonna say less than I don't know you're gonna

spk_0 expose me for a pretty dumb ass here I'm gonna say I wasn't really known what to say either to be

spk_0 honest with you but somebody said there's no because you got to think he's played what 20 events

spk_0 or something like that right I was gonna say less than 20 people I'm gonna say I'm gonna say 19

spk_0 I think somebody said the number is 56 players okay so that was really dumb yeah I didn't know

spk_0 what I would have thought the original be like a hundred because he's good but then again I guess a

spk_0 lot of the people might be repeats I don't even know if that number is 100% true somebody said

spk_0 that to me and we were kind of debating it at the bar but the question trend is that like how many

spk_0 people total Scotty Shephard played a stroke play event against this year that have like beat him

spk_0 and apparently the number is 56 players over the course of the entire season still really low

spk_0 yeah 19s absurdly low I was thinking a lot of repeats because like if if you have the Patrick keeps

spk_0 beating him it's just one no matter how many times he does right for our macro he's beating him

spk_0 it's just one I mean the guy really never finished out of the top 10 all year long so like I mean

spk_0 however many people were in and out of that top 10 and yeah that's how many people beat him

spk_0 it can't be that many though if you think about it really can't ask if he's something right and

spk_0 his whole dude look at his whole years like tied I know because there's like 150 players every week

spk_0 that he's played against and like if you finish top 20 you did amazing like you did amazing and so

spk_0 to imagine he's played against thousands of people basically if you kind of consider each one

spk_0 like different start not thousands total people but he has to play against so many people throughout

spk_0 each event that like that number it could just add up so incredibly fast like you could have one

spk_0 mediocre tournament where you lose immediately to like 70 people right away just one week and

spk_0 dude he is gone he went tied for night tied for 25th tied for 3rd tied for 11 tied for 20

spk_0 a five per second fourth a first first fourth first 7th sixth eighth first third first

spk_0 tied for four I got to those numbers are incredibly insane incredibly insane this this run right here

spk_0 he goes fourth eighth first first fourth first 7th sixth eighth first third first fourth first

spk_0 what's that what is that man

spk_0 let me try and find the average what was his average first average position you're saying yeah

spk_0 like in that stretch like the 3.3 it's unbelievable it's just losing it right he's losing

spk_0 the like two people I didn't do an actual math when he teased it up it's like he's like he's on

spk_0 average going to lose to like two people every time he can you help me speed up this math and tell me

spk_0 how many events he played this year I'm doing all those numbers what was the total amount

spk_0 we look it up well like you just add those all the ones that you just or just tell me how many of

spk_0 those entries the thing is I think it'll just say it on the pj tour things how many ball games there's

spk_0 one ball game two ball games three ball games four ball games eight one this is 20 events played

spk_0 this year six wins one four equals divided by one T yep five point nine five that's incredible

spk_0 that is incredible that's incredible that's a guy who played really well all year

spk_0 the entire entire year his average finishing position this year was 5.9 dude playing every week against

spk_0 Colin Moracawa and Rory McElroy and Tommy Fleetwood Ben Griffin Shane Lowry that's who he's

spk_0 playing against a field of those people every time crazy what a year I think that's all I got

spk_0 gentlemen believe that's all that's on the old docket my have anything else anything on the list

spk_0 hey yeah I mean Yankees got their freaking ass kicked they're probably it's not looking good

spk_0 glad um Guerrero Jr. is turning into the next big poppy he absolutely murders the Yankees

spk_0 I mean going into this series he was already batting like 390 against the Yankees and now he's

spk_0 hitting grand slams he's like six for eight with two home runs in this in the first two games

spk_0 you can't get him out he's one of those guys you can't get at just like David or T's was

spk_0 can't get him out when you're pitching to him you're like this is gone

spk_0 yeah fuck is right oh I got I got I got got got by our guy oh his pearlman this weekend

spk_0 dude we got to talk about that before we sign off because first I want to get to yours because

spk_0 yeah please did you guys see the Notre Dame one yes I did I saw a clip of the Notre Dame one

spk_0 I watched the whole Notre Dame one there it's getting to the point and I can't wait to hear

spk_0 your experience with them but it's getting to the point where these are unexplainable tricks okay

spk_0 the only explanation is that everyone's in on it that that is the only logical explanation which

spk_0 I then know nobody's in on it because he's just bringing we've seen and talk to people that have

spk_0 gotten got by him and that've been around these football videos like like you guys have both dude

spk_0 for anyone that hasn't watched I'm gonna explain this to you right now and then go watch it just

spk_0 just just to believe what I'm saying to you he had he had a man just he goes somebody

spk_0 I have cash on him and some guy just got up and goes I got cash all right he goes folded and

spk_0 sit on that dollar bill whichever the fuck that means goes fold and sit on the dollar bill

spk_0 so then everyone's like oh shit and then he had five guys get up randomly because you five get up

spk_0 and he goes we're gonna think of a third and ten or is it like a yes like a third and ten

spk_0 scenario and he goes you you said that they're gonna get it's a 15 a 45 yard bomb for first down

spk_0 if if you believed in that if that was you were thinking sit down so one guy's like holy fuck he

spk_0 sits down that's what you're thinking and he goes two guys tried to stump me and the guy got sacked

spk_0 for no yards no yards gain two guys sat down and then he's like one guy you're he goes you tried

spk_0 to really stump me the chains are out it's fourth and an inches and like he's guessing what these

spk_0 guys play what their play was in their head he went five or five right or was it four or four whatever

spk_0 okay so when you took all those numbers right the 45 yard gain the one yard stop the zero yards

spk_0 from the sack and he put them all on a piece of paper he wrote them down so they're all next to

spk_0 each other all these digits are next to each other of these guys brains thinking of the plays

spk_0 he then had the guy sitting on the dollar bill upstairs read off the serial number of that dollar

spk_0 bill it matched the numbers identically to what these guys said and then he flipped the numbers

spk_0 around upside down and it said go Irish so the amount of variables that could go wrong there is

spk_0 infinite okay like and he goes oh what was the first and last letter in between those numbers

spk_0 on the serial number and it was nd which is Notre Dame and then he flipped the numbers around

spk_0 it said go Irish like what I'm saying to you right now doesn't make any logical sense there's no joke

spk_0 there's no trick there so that's not a trick right that's not a trick there's no magic trick there

spk_0 it's he could have pulled out any dollar bill he could have said any amount of yards this guy could

spk_0 have been like oh it was a seven yard slam that was caught but no they said one yard stop both of

spk_0 them said that so that that was the go Irish that was the eye with the art that like that's

spk_0 fucking crazy he did a similar one to that at the event that I was at explain it it was this finisher

spk_0 I'll explain that one so basically it was the end before he had already done he had already got me

spk_0 but what he did at the end was he had three people stand up and say he was like think of someone

spk_0 you love think of their birthday and he'd got three people to do that and so he got three numbers

spk_0 it basically if it was like you know march fourth 1985 it would be you know three four 85 so those

spk_0 are the numbers he got three people to do that and then he had a guy with a microphone oh before

spk_0 before all this when the when the event started he had a guy pulled a five dollar bill out of his

spk_0 wall had the guy sign the dollar bill and then he said sit on it sit on that dollar bill so that

spk_0 was at the beginning and then at the end he's asking three people for a birthday of someone that

spk_0 they love he gets all those numbers we're putting him into a calculator there's a guy with the

spk_0 microphone running around asking people getting the numbers the guy with the he says guy with the

spk_0 microphone go to the guy in the back have I ever met you blah blah blah he does that with everybody

spk_0 he's like no this is the first time I'm meeting you he said whisper into the guy with the microphone

spk_0 in the calculator a number between one thousand and five thousand any number pick whatever number

spk_0 you want put that in the calculator multiply all those together get a number for me and he's like

spk_0 I got it and then he goes by hey guys sitting on that five dollar bill that you sign that is the

spk_0 same one that you sat on at the beginning of this event pulled that out and read off the serial

spk_0 number and the serial number matched the number on the calculator there is no explanation for that

spk_0 I agree you're listening to this and you're like oh they're all in on it like that's just a

spk_0 person that showed up to the event that pulled out a dollar bill now unless he somehow got somebody

spk_0 to like like get that person to go to Starbucks or something and like like give them that money as

spk_0 change and then like you know like like infiltrate their life weeks ago to give them that dollar bill

spk_0 there is no explanation but then to have the number whispered between one thousand and five thousand

spk_0 right literally could have said any number any number I'll tell you what he did to me so both first of

spk_0 all the drafts first of all shout out the draft gigs I was at Pynastyle weekend me and beef and

spk_0 PFT and Hank were there for a couple days there's a VIP draft kings event we're at the cradle Friday

spk_0 night they got to play all the VIPs the draft kings VIPs they got to play number two on Saturday

spk_0 there's a great event really a lot of fun draft kings does those things right like we just had

spk_0 an awesome time and after they all got to play Pynast number two on Saturday there's a dinner

spk_0 and O's Proman is there rigs and I hosted one of these a year ago in TBC Sots Scott Stale same

spk_0 event O's Proman was there as well he got rigs and it was that's how you know like I trust rigs

spk_0 I trust him and I know he's not a plan so I watch him I watch O's Proman pull a number out of

spk_0 rigs his head and I know that rigs is an in on so before these events before it all starts before

spk_0 O's Jorzo on stage he walks around to each table pretty much and like does magic to them and just

spk_0 guesses numbers guesses their old girlfriends does the whole thing and I'm scared of this guy I'll

spk_0 I'll regular like when we're at these events all text ranking me like the witches here I'm trying

spk_0 to keep a low profile I don't want to be because I don't want it like listen I know what's

spk_0 pretty much going on in my head and I don't I don't necessarily need everybody prying everything out of

spk_0 me so I'm just like I'm trying to avoid this guy like oh my god me and be for sitting at a table

spk_0 with a couple draft kings and plays the draft kings and plays call him over they're like oh

spk_0 is get over here like let's you know we want to see something so what he does to our table he

spk_0 tells us think of someone dead or alive that you want to have dinner with think of that person

spk_0 could be anybody dead or alive I had just seen a tick-tock with Denzel Washington so that was a

spk_0 first name that came into my head so I picked Denzel Washington he says go on your phone

spk_0 Google the person that you would want to have dinner with pull up an image on your phone of

spk_0 them put your phone down and I'll talk to you in an hour so he walks away from the table at that

spk_0 point he says I don't want to see what anybody goes I am now walking away from the table show starts

spk_0 he's you know he's I mean he's pouring uh chocolate milk out of a sprite can like the whole thing is

spk_0 fucking insane what he's doing he gets everything right that's another thing we talk about all the time

spk_0 where you get one of these things wrong he is so viral and gets so many views and has so many

spk_0 eyeballs on him that if you screw up one time it's over pal we don't believe you now what he does

spk_0 is he pretends he's screwing up and still fucking gets everything right yeah which is insane yeah

spk_0 so it gets to the part of the night where he's like all right everybody he's like I did this

spk_0 for a couple tables but let's just do with everybody everybody right now think of a famous person

spk_0 dead or alive that you would want to have dinner with and he's like all right if you if you have

spk_0 that person in your head start clapping your hands above your head and what I did was I did not

spk_0 clap my hands above my head because I was like I don't want anything to do with this guy and guess

spk_0 what he does he goes that guy wasn't clapping his hands so I know he doesn't want to be a part of this

spk_0 so now he's a part of it oh my god and I was like god damn it so he gets I stand up three other people

spk_0 stand up and he just starts pointing at us and he go and he's guessing he's like one girl had

spk_0 Martin Luther King Jr. and another guy had Travis Kelsey and he's just he's like sit down if I get

spk_0 it right sit down everybody's sitting down he's getting everyone right every single one of them I'm the

spk_0 last guy to go he looks at me and he goes all right it's a musical act I know that for a fact

spk_0 and in my head I go this is going to be the greatest moment of my life I'm going to embarrass

spk_0 O's Pearlman in front of all these people get your phones out because he thinks it's a musical act

spk_0 and I got Denzel Washington in my brain he's like it's definitely musical act all right so he's

spk_0 just standing there and he writes or he just he goes it's a solo music act and I'm like here we go

spk_0 this is going to be I can't wait for this he writes a name down on the this like you know whiteboard

spk_0 that he has and he goes say the name of the person that you want to get dinner with and I so happy

spk_0 and so excited because I think it's going to be a great moment go Denzel Washington he turns it

spk_0 around and it says Denzel Washington he says I was just messing with you oh my god oh way

spk_0 I was just like I was like I don't know I like like send shivers through my whole body I have

spk_0 goosebumps all over my body and I just sat down I was like this is the greatest thing what this guy

spk_0 does is the most impressive thing on planet earth what's the explanation of that I don't know if

spk_0 there's someone in the crowd that like is is observing like what you're writing like what you're

spk_0 googling like that's in his ear or what there's like cues of like you know someone like blinks to

spk_0 what's the explanation because he's not a fairy he's not a he's not a not a fairy but he's not

spk_0 like a wizard I know but he's not a he's not a ghoul he's not he's not from he's not he's not I mean

spk_0 like there's no I'm trying to think of like like there he's not iron man or like you know I mean

spk_0 there's nothing about he's a human being so my thing was like all right he really think about it maybe

spk_0 he did have us google the pictures and you know I was like oh maybe he's on the Wi-Fi he's got people

spk_0 inside working they're working seeing what phones google but then he'll just pick somebody out of the

spk_0 crowd he like stand up think of your first crush in kindergarten think about a real hard

spk_0 think about me he's like I don't know you I've never met you I've like he I mean he doesn't he's

spk_0 like I've done no research and then he's like is there name Jessica and he's like yeah it's Jessica

spk_0 he's like sit down and it's like all right like that that's not that's not like I don't know what

spk_0 trickery that would even beat yeah it's yeah if you do when he was like when he was on

spk_0 Rogan like I remember Rogan was like ready to strangle him and ready to defeat him and I remember

spk_0 you know he just got through that interview with at Rogan at the end of it's just like that's

spk_0 unbelievable that's you know he's like that's unbelievable and I hope that once his life is like

spk_0 his career is over that he just does a full explanation as to how he did it once I do this

spk_0 I'm about how much money he has you know I hope he does that too because it would be obviously

spk_0 fascinating I I there was a picture taken to me at this event with him like over my shoulder like

spk_0 messing with my phone and I posted and I tagged him he reached out to me and was like when am I

spk_0 gonna have to I love to do a video with him where he like we give him time to do whatever he needs

spk_0 to do but like a nine hole like day of golf each hole like something is happening that's leading

spk_0 towards the end like like let him like just give him the idea that like we're gonna be on a golf

spk_0 course with you and whatever you want to do out there from beginning to end so that the viewers

spk_0 have to watch from hole one to hole nine similar how similar to how he did that whole story of like

spk_0 yes it on the dollar and the next one's gonna do this next we gotta do that he's gotta figure out

spk_0 something on the golf course that maybe after each hole he reveals something at the end he like

spk_0 I don't know brings back my like pop-up or something from like dead right like I don't know what he's

spk_0 gonna do but like I would love to be on a golf course with him because over digital like over this

spk_0 if we just have a podcast it would suck ass no I would never do a digital I was think I'd be

spk_0 curious what he would say that because I think every time I watch him and we all watch him he'll do

spk_0 football he'll do basketball he'll do all that but it's always people just sitting in front of him

spk_0 I wonder I know if he would do that or like what he would say that but I still even if he's like I

spk_0 would prefer if we just like meet all meet somewhere and we do it I still think we should have to meet him

spk_0 we got I have to meet him he wants to know I am so blown away by him I'm not even skeptical of

spk_0 him anymore I genuinely just don't even know how he does it and I know that's what the allure is

spk_0 and that's like what the that's why he is who he is I don't under I can't even everything else I

spk_0 can just say slide a hand sure all the other magic is like well that's just like slide a hand or

spk_0 it's like optical illusion him pointing at someone being like Jessica it's just like

spk_0 is it any name Denzel Washington like how is that a trick dude ricksy did the same thing he did at

spk_0 TVC Scott still to did did a tight hour had the place going crazy grab two bags and just ran into

spk_0 the distance I think he I legit at this point thinks he grabs two bags so people can't get their

spk_0 hands on him like they don't so he doesn't have to shake hands he doesn't have to do it he just

spk_0 takes two bags and just dude it felt that way because I can because there are people afterwards who

spk_0 are like they want to talk to him and then like I totally get why but he's like I got to go I got to

spk_0 catch a plane grabs two bags and just runs off into the darkness dude that is exactly what he does

spk_0 because when you listen to him on the shows here's the thing there's something going on right like

spk_0 there is a trick at play the weather it's on his body on his fingers something he is not doing this

spk_0 he's not a higher being he is not dude he can't say I don't know the answer can't be then I don't

spk_0 know he's a human being he like he went to like school and like fucking he got arrested at one

spk_0 point for like stealing cell phones like the guy if you listen to Rogan episode he like goes into it

spk_0 like this guy is a regular human being should we start writing the next version of the bible

spk_0 forum is that what we're saying I guess he is he non-human no I know I don't but I'm incapable of

spk_0 knowing how he does what he does the best I could take from these interviews or that he is a

spk_0 master at being able to basically read people and boil down whatever you're thinking through some

spk_0 incredible techniques of just being able to read people that is like the takeaway that I get from

spk_0 these interviews and like I know that sounds insane but I think he has completely mastered

spk_0 and ability to comprehend and like no how many answers there could possibly be and then the way that

spk_0 you're thinking about something gives x amount of signals that allows him to like deduce

spk_0 through all of this incredible techniques that he's read about since like these books from the

spk_0 thirties that he talks about to boil it down to like one answer in every scenario even though every

spk_0 scenario looks like there's a trillion possible answers like that's yeah sort of the best way that

spk_0 I can understand it and explain it without really like you look at Trent like like you're just like

spk_0 of course he's going to say like Barack Lesnar or frickin like Stone Cold Steve Austin

spk_0 when he says Denzel Washington like how is Trent not saying a WWE superstar

spk_0 you know I love Ron Blaney I think I'm gonna put it right away he said Denzel Washington

spk_0 like and he was probably thinking of like training day Denzel Washington like this wow there we

spk_0 go so maybe I got a little bit of it it's crazy it's obviously the fact that we don't know how he

spk_0 does it is why it's so goddamn interesting but I am I will testify I will testify that I'm not a

spk_0 plant I had I had not talked to him since I saw him a year ago or whenever we did it and he just

spk_0 he got me cold man he pegged me it makes me want to slam my head against the table like it

spk_0 it makes my head want to explode like I actually try and think through it and I know what you're

spk_0 saying rings there's obviously a technique but that's not a good enough explanation I agree I agree

spk_0 I agree I I don't think that the way that I explain it gets me even 1% closer to understanding it

spk_0 but I do when he when you listen to him in his interviews the way he does kind of explain it

spk_0 gets you maybe a little bit closer to realizing that he's not doing what you think he's doing he's

spk_0 doing something totally different that some fucking how is able to have him arrive at one

spk_0 singular answer and I don't that's just not like comprehensible but the way that you twitch and the

spk_0 way that he like he knows that like the nose now it starts with an M there's only so many names at

spk_0 start with an M the way that he thought there was six letters not eight there's only so many female

spk_0 names that could be six letters at start with an M that and he's able to get all that down to like

spk_0 one answer and just do that while you're sitting there thinking he pulled it out of the thin air that's

spk_0 like but like do it one on one I get that but to do it at an event where you're like all through

spk_0 giving out fricking Chevy's is crazy Jessica Denzel Washington sit down sit down just fucking holy

spk_0 shit how much math are you doing that you know and he I'm not this isn't gonna I don't want to do

spk_0 an O's pro man audio the hears of the hearer his tricks but there were three or four other ones

spk_0 that you're just like how dude it's fucking it's fucking honestly you also by me don't say fuck

spk_0 you that's something to do he's also the nicest guy in the world I know I'm a fan of I I sent

spk_0 I sent it I sent it all the time to my dad because my dad is such a skeptical person with

spk_0 things like these like he's always trying to find how they're doing it he like loves to dissect

spk_0 and tell you like that's fake or whatever whether it be anyone right like someone like reading

spk_0 or talking to the dead he's like well he's like what they say like oh I have a time less name

spk_0 my father was a gambler because you know I know I'm seeing poker cards like he's always like you

spk_0 can you you can see my face and know that there's gambling or something in my background he's

spk_0 always like trying to figure out O's pearlman has him on his heels man I said to tell me a day and he

spk_0 your dad's right shit shit is correct like shit is god is man the the Notre Dame one I know he did

spk_0 it there but like that spelling go Irish he's that's a little extra on top that we didn't have so

spk_0 fucked on like on so many levels to think about it's one in like 10 trillion odds I don't even

spk_0 think that's enough it's it's an infinite amount of odds to get five guys to think of a football

spk_0 play have you write down those numbers and then have someone's five dollar bill have the

spk_0 fucking serial numbers spell out go Irish when you're talking to the Notre Dame fighting Irish that

spk_0 part to me is like I don't know what's that play there but it's not good for anybody it's not

spk_0 good either he's infiltrated their lives or their brains I don't know or they're all in on it and

spk_0 then that's a huge fuck maybe it's AI maybe that didn't actually happen maybe like that maybe

spk_0 that whole interaction never actually happened I'll be out I there were I was in a real event and a

spk_0 real atmosphere and it happened I've been a part of there too and it sucked he I think he did the

spk_0 number and he did the girlfriend thing to me like the first girlfriend you can think of and just

spk_0 came up with that name and it's just like that's not I haven't thought of that name in 25 years how

spk_0 is that Paul's now how did how did Connor McDavid just signed a two year 12 and a half million dollar

spk_0 deal but the presauve signed a 17 million dollar deal last week I know this is a bridge deal McDavid

spk_0 that's pretty crazy only signed a two year extension sorry this is just coming across my desk here

spk_0 I know everyone's pretty excited about it but like wouldn't he still even though it's a bridge deal

spk_0 wouldn't he still be valued at like the best player in the league wouldn't he be like 18 million

spk_0 for two years how's he a 12 and a half million that's crazy not she just wants to win coming in

spk_0 well they say Capriceauve like yeah I guess that must just be like I want a win deal because like

spk_0 Capriceauve on Minnesota wild just reset the whole market he signed a 10 year like 17 million

spk_0 dollar deal or something like that or eight year sorry eight year 17 million dollar deal through

spk_0 the next highest player is McDavid at like 12 or 13 forever now yeah forever now whenever

spk_0 somebody signs like a team friendly deal there's gonna be those like you guys follow the

spk_0 quiet story I didn't really I don't know what you're talking essentially you you sign a deal

spk_0 that's kind of like what the fuck and then there's like a third party circumvent that's why the

spk_0 comments like he's also working for a tree company or something that's a quiet reference because

spk_0 where you just like they it's like you it's a no show job like if you ever watch this a

spk_0 brand of yeah yeah yeah you work here but he didn't have to do any social media posts or nothing

spk_0 it was like you're making you know I think it was like a seven million or twenty seven million

spk_0 dollars total over the course of it and he didn't have to do anything so it's always those

spk_0 those are always gonna be yeah he could have signed for max max money and he signed for I mean

spk_0 still a lot but like in this day and age where the cap's going to yeah I mean that's crazy that's

spk_0 a crazy deal just came across my desk he lived doesn't get across my desk like that no no sure doesn't

spk_0 all right all right all right gentlemen well um hello the show how about them cowboys love that

spk_0 love that love that big day for us big year for us for the 2025 rider cup October 15

spk_0 once again that is next week granite links nine a.m. if you can make it out there we're gonna be

spk_0 out there we got a lot of our contingent so come support come follow along and hopefully we

spk_0 can get a win otherwise we'll be back on Thursday for our second show of the week hit it hard

spk_0 hit it hard hit it hard

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