Hoodoo and the Sh*tpots

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spk_0 cup of makeup.

spk_0 What?

spk_0 That's not from the audience!

spk_0 I'm like,

spk_0 I don't want everything you say.

spk_0 Alright, welcome everyone to another episode of Geology on the Rock.

spk_0 You won't stop audio shop for all things rocks and rocking out.

spk_0 A brief overview of this evening's episode will include the intros and

spk_0 helloes, maybe a little new news question mark.

spk_0 Yes, yes, yes.

spk_0 So our main discussion will dive into science communication and Arizona

spk_0 geology.

spk_0 So between the bars of our main discussion will present to you another

spk_0 mineral minute.

spk_0 And before signing off, we will close things out with a little segment of

spk_0 that freaking rocks.

spk_0 That freaking rocks.

spk_0 Okay, so a big thank you to all of our listeners out there for allowing us to be

spk_0 played between your earballs and for spinning your time with us each week,

spk_0 months, years, whatevs.

spk_0 So if you would like to reach out to us, whether it be for episode ideas,

spk_0 questions you're wanting questioned or just to tell us about all the times we

spk_0 are wrong, you can reach out to us at Geology OTR at gmail.com or you can find us

spk_0 on the Instagram's geology on the rocks podcast.

spk_0 So it does look like as if things are squared away over here.

spk_0 So without further ado to all of you over there, I am your geology daddies.

spk_0 I am your host.

spk_0 I'm your hostie, woe'sty Jamie Whammy, the geology, geology daddy,

spk_0 wacky.

spk_0 And I'm your fancy, fancy Brian Gaggins.

spk_0 Say it like you mean it.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 I'm colluvial car.

spk_0 No, you know,

spk_0 come on.

spk_0 Come on.

spk_0 Little bit.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Hot carless.

spk_0 All y'all are kidding me.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 So anyways, and this is geology on the rocks.

spk_0 Wow.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 Well, hello everyone.

spk_0 Hi, episode 48.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 We're not cheers and yet.

spk_0 No.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 So, but we have something special for all of you listeners today.

spk_0 Let me queue up the music.

spk_0 And we welcome the one, the only one can only the Pasano from the old neighborhood.

spk_0 The beast from the

spk_0 Izano.

spk_0 Pisano, the kintanix.

spk_0 Kinley's are.

spk_0 Oh, fuck yeah.

spk_0 Fuck yeah.

spk_0 Slay up.

spk_0 So that was a personal request.

spk_0 This was a rib hintless by Slayers.

spk_0 I've always wanted to be introduced.

spk_0 I've always wanted to be introduced to Slayer.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 You guys made better reality.

spk_0 We did.

spk_0 We were talking about when we were trying to find the song.

spk_0 We were like, it's like a WWE intro walk up song.

spk_0 It is.

spk_0 For real.

spk_0 Well, yeah.

spk_0 Thanks for coming on finally.

spk_0 Like James.

spk_0 I'm a big fan of Bobbibui.

spk_0 Bobbibui of big fan of you guys.

spk_0 Listen to you guys.

spk_0 I'm actually a listener before I ever even encountered you.

spk_0 Well, fun there.

spk_0 That's awesome.

spk_0 It's cool.

spk_0 Like that's how you make my long,

spk_0 too scared to fly travel work trips in the work trip.

spk_0 A little more powerful sometimes.

spk_0 Sometimes.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 That's kind of like how Carly got started.

spk_0 She was like, she listened and then like, I don't know.

spk_0 It happened to be that she lived here.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And that's one thing led to another.

spk_0 So for our listeners out there, why don't you tell them just a little bit about who

spk_0 you really are?

spk_0 I don't know if you're actually you.

spk_0 Like we wouldn't know that.

spk_0 But unless your real name is Kintonix.

spk_0 But yeah.

spk_0 So that and also what you do and perhaps maybe what's your favorite sandwich?

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 Well, in a nutshell, I am Kenneth J.

spk_0 Lazara.

spk_0 The second.

spk_0 But you call me.

spk_0 Frickin Ken Ken.

spk_0 And I did my, I did a degree in geology at SUNY,

spk_0 Sony broke, uh, Sony broke University, Long Island, New York.

spk_0 Oh, makes sense.

spk_0 Why hear the accent now that you mentioned it?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 He's on.

spk_0 Oh, you're going to, you're going to hear, you're going to get it.

spk_0 Don't worry.

spk_0 Uh, wow.

spk_0 What else?

spk_0 Favorite mineral mineral.

spk_0 It shouldn't be.

spk_0 It really should not be.

spk_0 But my favorite mineral is a rose.

spk_0 Really?

spk_0 Out of all of the minerals.

spk_0 Isn't it out of all, right?

spk_0 Well, the reason, uh, I mean, it's just so satisfying.

spk_0 You know, you look at this lush, deep, you know, pink thing.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And it's just so satisfying.

spk_0 And I actually, in my last girlfriend, I proposed to her with a piece of rose

spk_0 quartz that I found, uh, myself on top of a volcano.

spk_0 Under, under a solar eclipse.

spk_0 No.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Well, now everyone looks back.

spk_0 Well, she still said no.

spk_0 Oh, well, that sucks.

spk_0 She's, well, that is, I guess, foreshadowing for proposing with rose quartz.

spk_0 Well, I mean, she was a flight attendant, right?

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 I'm scared to fly and she scared of commitment.

spk_0 Oh, so there you go.

spk_0 Hey, old story.

spk_0 Anyway, is there a story behind the, the flight fright?

spk_0 Uh, not a happy one.

spk_0 Oh, well, we don't have to do it.

spk_0 I was in, I was in New York, you know, on 9 11.

spk_0 Oh, oh, no.

spk_0 Well, yeah, there you go.

spk_0 I have a really bad habit of bringing up that thing.

spk_0 Like, what did I do last time?

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 Oh, no, it was the levy breach.

spk_0 Oh, yeah, you're talking about your insensitivity to those who live in a floodplain.

spk_0 Yeah, it doesn't, they don't matter.

spk_0 That is not what I said for the record.

spk_0 Oh, we have it on record.

spk_0 Well, okay.

spk_0 No, yeah, that was a crazy time.

spk_0 I remember you.

spk_0 That was a, though the, the students I teach, like they were not, I guess, really conscious

spk_0 or aware of really, guess, the severity of 9 11.

spk_0 So it's kind of weird.

spk_0 It's kind of like our understanding, maybe of like Pearl, what harbor meant to our parents or grandparents?

spk_0 Absolutely.

spk_0 So it's absolutely.

spk_0 I hear the old timers talk and it's the same thing dynamic.

spk_0 Yes, we're the old timers now.

spk_0 But yeah, I know that.

spk_0 Ooh, yeah.

spk_0 I have a, and then plus, I don't know, there's a whole bunch of stuff in the news over the

spk_0 past week of how a Southwest flight, how a bird got caught in the engine during takeoff

spk_0 and the cabin filled with smoke.

spk_0 What?

spk_0 And they had to make an emergency.

spk_0 It happens all the time.

spk_0 Oh, what was the smoke in the cabin?

spk_0 I learned a lot of stuff, you know, spending five years with my last girlfriend, you know,

spk_0 there's like near what they call near miss, but it's like every day.

spk_0 Oh my God.

spk_0 Oh, Jesus.

spk_0 I'm done.

spk_0 I'm running and now I hate it.

spk_0 No, but then recently last week someone died from turbulence.

spk_0 Oh, okay.

spk_0 Well, you know, extreme turbulence.

spk_0 I mean, like, Carly and I are more like.

spk_0 They, they, they dropped like four months and telling you and hit her head and they love telling

spk_0 you, oh, it's just turbulence.

spk_0 It won't hurt you.

spk_0 Guess what?

spk_0 Now there's a one in a billion chance as well.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Well, I think the stat is you're still the odds of dying is one in 11 million.

spk_0 I'm still better than driving.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 You know what?

spk_0 There's no fender benders.

spk_0 You tap a bumper up there.

spk_0 You don't just pull over.

spk_0 Oh, yeah.

spk_0 That is a true point.

spk_0 So it's Carly looks fucking terrified.

spk_0 Like, but I was just talking about this in one of my classes about risk and like talking

spk_0 about that kind of like the rationalization or I guess lack there of like, yeah, whenever

spk_0 we remember one plane crash, just 300 people died, but like the risk of like 300 car accidents

spk_0 with one people dying is it the same?

spk_0 Yeah, no, it's, but also like risk.

spk_0 So humans in general are overconfident.

spk_0 We will always say a probability is more or we'll, we'll mess that up.

spk_0 So we don't actually really have a good idea of how likely something is.

spk_0 And then also with that, so someone in a similar situation as you, you think your odds are

spk_0 better or more positive than someone else probably having worse luck.

spk_0 So you are a geologist and you're working out in Arizona.

spk_0 What kind of stuff do you do out there?

spk_0 I am in environmental consulting.

spk_0 I am a geologist in title, which really doesn't mean much more than sophisticated outdoorsy

spk_0 beer drinker.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 But yeah, I do a lot of stuff with groundwater monitoring, modeling.

spk_0 What's your favorite pose?

spk_0 You know, park your back.

spk_0 Make it look like a duck lip.

spk_0 Make the kissy face.

spk_0 Oh my God.

spk_0 Okay, then lastly, our intrusive questions.

spk_0 What is your drink of choice?

spk_0 Wait, no, he didn't answer my sandwich question.

spk_0 Oh, yeah, I really want to know.

spk_0 My favorite sandwich.

spk_0 I think one of their names was Christine and the other was Rita.

spk_0 That was good.

spk_0 Are those hurricanes?

spk_0 I mean, maybe.

spk_0 Hurricane Rita.

spk_0 That was a bit after Katrina.

spk_0 Yeah, yeah.

spk_0 Little bit of monsoon.

spk_0 That's good.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 So, yeah, your drink of choice tonight, because you know, this is geology on the rocks.

spk_0 However, none of us may be Carly's on the rocks.

spk_0 No, none of us are on the rocks tonight.

spk_0 But we're emotionally.

spk_0 We're emotionally.

spk_0 I'm on the rocks tonight.

spk_0 You know, lately I go to the store.

spk_0 The only thing I see in the beer aisle.

spk_0 I see a couple other bullshit, Budweiser, whatever.

spk_0 It's the rocket fuel, fucking IPA.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 That's Brian.

spk_0 Right up right.

spk_0 I don't know what it is.

spk_0 I like IPA.

spk_0 Don't get me wrong.

spk_0 I enjoy it now and again.

spk_0 But I don't see why we need to stock the shelves.

spk_0 30 different brands of it.

spk_0 Hold on.

spk_0 I don't get it.

spk_0 I got something for that.

spk_0 Here we go.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Bring us.

spk_0 No need's IPA.

spk_0 We do need them, but we don't need a full aisle of IPAs.

spk_0 I've been going through an amber phase.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 So I've been fucking knocking back multiple times of amber.

spk_0 You know, that's right.

spk_0 Excellent.

spk_0 I made up.

spk_0 I made up red tonight.

spk_0 I am drinking a Ganafe brewing company out of New Mexico.

spk_0 Oh, yeah.

spk_0 Seven K IPA.

spk_0 Seven K.

spk_0 We had some of their stuff there.

spk_0 James.

spk_0 Oh, yeah.

spk_0 We're on that rooftop.

spk_0 Oh, yeah.

spk_0 That's fun.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Down in Las Vegas, New Mexico.

spk_0 Oh, no.

spk_0 What's it got?

spk_0 It was Las Vegas, New Mexico.

spk_0 No, no.

spk_0 We went to Santa Fe.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Well, I went drinking.

spk_0 I think you were with me.

spk_0 Maybe.

spk_0 I'd rather all squandering around.

spk_0 Well, I'm having a double half-life by Manhattan Brewing Project.

spk_0 And I'm having a car box.

spk_0 Love Street Blonde.

spk_0 They're local brewery, right?

spk_0 Carly.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So is this one.

spk_0 And Carly's.

spk_0 I'm having a raceling.

spk_0 So fancy.

spk_0 Is that what I have?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 A reason.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 I called Carly.

spk_0 I was like, they don't have a raceling at the store.

spk_0 And then I walked and realized I'd fucking stand right in front of it.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 It is, what time is it now?

spk_0 It's time for triple junction and mu moves.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So for triple junction fanfare, we, I don't think we've done this in a while.

spk_0 So Brian, you take the, you take the brunt of all of this or you're the, the chatty one.

spk_0 I'm actually the chatty one.

spk_0 But just a few fanfare notes.

spk_0 We enjoy the engagement with the fans.

spk_0 So igneous bliss and the CSU LA mineralogy class.

spk_0 Like they said, they listen to us.

spk_0 The UCSB Geofolks, Kavi from Australia, Rebecca, I forgot.

spk_0 Like the last, she gave us a bottle of whiskey.

spk_0 Oh.

spk_0 That we drink already.

spk_0 I'm Danielle with Daniela with UTSA, GSA, and geologically speaking.

spk_0 And you, a few trepisodes with Trey and local listeners Anna, I think recently.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Just crazy.

spk_0 And also shout out to Jessica Martin, she runs the GM Geofotos Instagram page, but she

spk_0 gave me some sand, very kind of her.

spk_0 But I'm using it for a research project I'm doing.

spk_0 And that's crazy.

spk_0 She was like, I'll go ahead.

spk_0 Sorry.

spk_0 They're, they're freaking awesome.

spk_0 That dude, geologically speaking.

spk_0 Oh, I know.

spk_0 They're in geofotos.

spk_0 I met Geo speaking in California and Stan Cometti last year, October 21.

spk_0 He fucking bad ass.

spk_0 He was listening, you're fucking bad ass.

spk_0 Sorry.

spk_0 He is though, because like, he just, like, I don't know.

spk_0 I don't understand how someone can understand that much of the geology.

spk_0 Like I, I mean, I think I know a little bit, but I get out in the field and I'm like,

spk_0 what?

spk_0 And then what I was going to say, and I, but we've probably talked about this before.

spk_0 But the J and Geofotos, she was once my student, the physical geology.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So it's crazy.

spk_0 And now she's at UTA.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 Working under the guy.

spk_0 I'm going to study under.

spk_0 So it's like, yeah, so, yeah.

spk_0 So I guess we went through it.

spk_0 We do have fans and all that.

spk_0 We're going to try to do something nice for our listeners and provide some job posts.

spk_0 I mean, I'm not going to call through them.

spk_0 I, I, that's up for you guys.

spk_0 If you're interested in a job to really seek it out and see what it's about, but thanks

spk_0 to rock girls only, don't know their name.

spk_0 But yeah, they had, they have a few jobs that they had mentioned, and I'll make sure and

spk_0 get those up soon.

spk_0 And then we also throwing around maybe like a, like a networking event or not.

spk_0 Or just kind of like a meet and greet.

spk_0 Hopefully that could lead into something like a local geology community.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Go do field trips and just meet other geologists.

spk_0 I met a geologist today who graduated from UTA in 1974.

spk_0 Wow.

spk_0 Who is it?

spk_0 You know, it is Angela's nephew's grandfather.

spk_0 Oh, okay.

spk_0 And he was talking about, well, a mailbox money.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 And then obviously, Kentonix, like, right?

spk_0 We, I mean, no, we wouldn't be having this episode if it wasn't through the Instagram

spk_0 and his listening.

spk_0 So, yeah, man.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And the audience would like to see more fun videos starring James and Brian created by

spk_0 Carly.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 So the audience has asked for this.

spk_0 Has it really?

spk_0 They have.

spk_0 Is this like a personal behind the screen, like an iron door, the audience?

spk_0 It sounds like this is like Brian, what I'm, what I'm hearing when she says this and what

spk_0 I'm visioning in my head is that we need to make a calendar.

spk_0 I have, I mentioned that to Ken.

spk_0 I said, we should, he should do a geology.

spk_0 What would it, I don't know what that was, but it was like a sexy mangeologist.

spk_0 Like, oh, I thought you met like a calendar.

spk_0 Like we should actually schedule things.

spk_0 Oh, we do have that.

spk_0 Don't we?

spk_0 I thought we did.

spk_0 No, I meant like a, yeah, like if you want, I thought I was going to get to do my arch

spk_0 back and back.

spk_0 Oh, yes.

spk_0 I just, I can envision like photoshopping myself into different landscapes for the different

spk_0 months.

spk_0 Oh my God.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 He's a lot of them.

spk_0 No, it just came to me.

spk_0 Oh, okay.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 Well, I think it's now time for one of my favorite segments.

spk_0 Oh, but the fault factoid segment.

spk_0 Oh, yeah.

spk_0 So, so Ken, you had an idea.

spk_0 I can give you, I'm in a unique position here to give you direct feedback.

spk_0 Oh, yeah.

spk_0 Instead of you, instead of you having to wait for emails from your ungrateful listeners,

spk_0 you've got one right here.

spk_0 I'm grateful.

spk_0 I like this.

spk_0 That's so good.

spk_0 I suggest you, is that you guys are two mineralogy patrologists.

spk_0 You need to throw in some, you need to throw in some structure.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 A fault, fault factoid segment.

spk_0 Fault.

spk_0

spk_0 Let's see, but like the, the sound it makes as it slips.

spk_0 Oh, that was really dirty.

spk_0 You pick a fault somewhere in the world.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 You just, you just got, you just got this relative motion.

spk_0 It's likely potential for whatever magnitude or click.

spk_0 It's effect on regional morphology.

spk_0 You know, there's a lot you can do.

spk_0 In a minute, you could fill a minute easily.

spk_0 See, this is a lot.

spk_0 I was just thinking of like, okay, this is a normal fault.

spk_0 The fault, the hanging wall moves down relative to the full wall.

spk_0 No, but that's a good idea.

spk_0 That's a good idea.

spk_0

spk_0 That's even, that's more just a random fault throughout the world.

spk_0 I like it.

spk_0 And we called it not my fault.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Oh, so good.

spk_0 There you go.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 We're going to write that down.

spk_0 Write that down.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Well, then I, we will go into, and please, Ken, at any time, if you have anything to say

spk_0 about any of the new news, please feel free to, I guess just fit in.

spk_0 Get in where you fit in.

spk_0 So this is trying to be as rude as possible.

spk_0 I hope so.

spk_0 So new news, article one.

spk_0 So I know we've talked about this before, but it's about Earth's inner, inner core.

spk_0 And there was a new paper that was released.

spk_0 And then the scientific American talked about it in February of 2023.

spk_0 So it's about the paper discussing the possibility of having to potentially, it has the potential

spk_0 for us to reimagine our understanding of the Earth's core, right?

spk_0 I guess more on the physical side, right?

spk_0 Because if it's the chemical differentiation, it's just core.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I agree.

spk_0 But okay.

spk_0 So recent research suggests that the Earth's inner core may have an inner core of its own.

spk_0 So the inner most part of the inner core is believed to be a solid sphere made of iron

spk_0 and nickel, but scientists have now found that this region may have a distinct inner core.

spk_0 And this new research proposes that the inner core of the Earth may consist of two layers

spk_0 with the outer layer being made up of the iron, nickel alloy.

spk_0 And the inner one actually being made up of different materials that may have higher melting

spk_0 points than the outer core.

spk_0 And then the scientists suggest that the second layer could be composed of various materials

spk_0 such as iron, carbon, and silicon.

spk_0 But more research is needed to determine the exact composition, right?

spk_0 Because we don't have a way to actually look into it.

spk_0 So the research suggests that the Earth's inner core may have an inner core, and was

spk_0 based on the analysis of seismic waves, which are just the vibrations that travel through

spk_0 the Earth's interior.

spk_0 And then the seismic waves are produced by earthquakes and other sources, and they provide

spk_0 scientists with information about the structure and composition.

spk_0 And by studying how the seismic waves propagate through the inner core scientists confer properties

spk_0 of its density and elasticity.

spk_0 And in this case, they analyze the seismic waves that had traveled through the inner core

spk_0 and found that they exhibited a certain pattern of polarizations, which could be explained

spk_0 by the existence of the inner inner core with different properties than the outer part

spk_0 of the inner core.

spk_0 And then the hypothesis will still require further investigation and testing through

spk_0 a range of techniques.

spk_0 However, this discovery of the inner core with the Earth's inner core could have significant

spk_0 implications for our understanding of the planet's magnetic field and the processes that

spk_0 drive it.

spk_0 And then the scientists in the study also believe that the motion of the liquid, iron,

spk_0 in the outer core generates Earth's magnetic field, but the inner core is believed to play

spk_0 a role in regulating the magnetic field's strength and stability.

spk_0 So by better understanding the inner core's structure, scientists begin insight into how

spk_0 the Earth's magnetic field has evolved over time and how it may change in the future.

spk_0 Wow.

spk_0 Yeah, I saw there was a huge buzz about that last month.

spk_0 Interesting that, I mean, it makes sense, like all the iron, carbon, and silicon, I think

spk_0 that makes a lot of sense, considering what the asteroid belt's composed of.

spk_0

spk_0 So if there, maybe that's just the early stage of formation and, you know, I don't know.

spk_0 Like, I'm not a planetary geologist.

spk_0 It makes sense to me.

spk_0 I don't.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I believed you.

spk_0 Well, I don't like the music played while I thought.

spk_0 Oh, yeah, if you get this one.

spk_0 Oh, the thing that strikes fear the most is that there are no notes here.

spk_0 I just have a picture to go off of.

spk_0 So last week I talked about an observation made of certain insects that would fling their

spk_0 pee at super propulsive velocity with their stylus.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 Well, I'm going to continue this.

spk_0 I do that over time.

spk_0 Of course you do.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Well, this lady, like wrote this bug guy, this is an entomologist.

spk_0 Entomologist.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

spk_0 So I don't look at entomology ever, right?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So this is just really weird.

spk_0 We always hear those stories like is Facebook listening, right?

spk_0 So I just yesterday, no, I don't look up entomology.

spk_0 Anything, right?

spk_0 Me and my niece were talking about it yesterday in person because she's like super into

spk_0 entomology and she's part of the entomology club at her school and talking about that.

spk_0 And she found all these bugs.

spk_0 The first ad that pulls up on my Facebook is join this entomology group.

spk_0 Wow.

spk_0 And I was like, whoa, they got the word.

spk_0 I'm like, that's super weird.

spk_0 There's nothing in my search that will face that to it.

spk_0 Not cool.

spk_0 That's why I don't have a Facebook.

spk_0 Not really.

spk_0 Well, not necessarily.

spk_0 Is that why?

spk_0 Maybe.

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 Well, so this lady, this week, I want to talk about a lady that found a beetle that honestly

spk_0 looks like a mix of a tardigrade and like an assassin bug.

spk_0 But she was like, hey, like, he just has a really weird end to him.

spk_0 And she wrote this entomologist.

spk_0 And he discovered that it's this one type of beetle called a tortoise beetle.

spk_0 The reason it looks so odd is it has this rear appendage.

spk_0 And the whole shabang is called a fecal shield.

spk_0 And so basically this larva of this beetle, it starts shedding its own skin and it's poop,

spk_0 which I guess is called frass.

spk_0 And so, assassin frass.

spk_0 And it basically has this thing called an anal fork that it's where it's where it's

spk_0 served.

spk_0 Is that for eating ass?

spk_0 It's got to be, right?

spk_0 That's good.

spk_0 Oh, I'm like, well, yeah.

spk_0 And so, yeah, anal fork, start fresh.

spk_0 That's like a great slogan for, never mind.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 That's my, that's my happy metal banding.

spk_0 It's it.

spk_0 Awesome.

spk_0 Well, okay.

spk_0 So basically, they figured out that this beetle will armor itself with its poop.

spk_0 And that's how it wards off other predators because like spiders and ants because they can

spk_0 tell when there's poop and they don't really want to mess with that.

spk_0 Fair.

spk_0 So there you go.

spk_0 It works.

spk_0 It even works among our feet.

spk_0 I think it probably does.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Like, bring out the poo.

spk_0 Once I bring out the poo, all my enemies run.

spk_0 And let's throw into that.

spk_0 Did you, did you do that or did I do that?

spk_0 I just put that in there.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 I know what the hell your door is.

spk_0 There it is.

spk_0 There's the armored poop.

spk_0 Wow.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 It's not very good.

spk_0 What a cutie.

spk_0 That does, I mean, other than the load of shit on its back.

spk_0 Is that the fork?

spk_0 That's gotta be.

spk_0 That's the shield.

spk_0 Oh.

spk_0 That's the poop shield.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 There's my life science update.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 Do I get the music too?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Let's do this.

spk_0 Build to last.

spk_0 Oh.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 I think this was gonna be one of our...

spk_0 In honor of Women's History Month, I'm gonna share this story that I've read from

spk_0 MPR about Emerald Mining in Columbia.

spk_0 So the gist of it is that Emerald Mining used to be very dangerous.

spk_0 I mean, Columbia.

spk_0 And there were Columbian families and they were fighting for control, all that stuff.

spk_0 And there were accidents, you know, in the mines, all that good stuff.

spk_0 So in the article, it doesn't say who, like, what organization or whatnot.

spk_0 But someone asked this guy working at the US Embassy in Columbia to get some foreign

spk_0 investors going.

spk_0 And then those investors helped change it.

spk_0 Helped change it.

spk_0 So instead of like having an open mine, so there were accidents and then it polluted

spk_0 nearby waters.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 So it's an open mine not having an open mine.

spk_0 Correct.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So now there are tunnels.

spk_0 You can go down into the tunnels, several meters deep.

spk_0 So now it's eco-friendly.

spk_0 But the great part about all of it in addition to all the happy things is that this Columbian

spk_0 Emerald Mining area is now a pioneer for bringing women into the workforce.

spk_0 So there are several women geologists there, several women doing the mining.

spk_0 So I just thought that was really cool.

spk_0 And I'm sure there's more conflict and other things going on that the article didn't

spk_0 mention.

spk_0 But in the article, it did say like women used to be like, you know, like women on a ship,

spk_0 bad luck, dangerous.

spk_0 You can't have them anywhere near here.

spk_0 And now it's like one of the big places in Columbia hiring women.

spk_0 So that's cool.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 No, it is.

spk_0 And then I'm sure like that industry will have the growth, you know, I guess when you

spk_0 introduce women into an industry like, I don't know, but he sure that it's.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So I think that's awesome.

spk_0 And I also love me some good barrel.

spk_0 Oh, yeah.

spk_0 Emerald too.

spk_0 Variation of barrel.

spk_0 No, thanks for that, Carly.

spk_0 And yeah, so anytime Brian.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I really want to make sure that I hope that the future is very equality based.

spk_0 And I think we're at least to like where I'm working.

spk_0 It's there, but that is not the case everywhere and we need to improve.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 So we have Ken on here, Ken Tonics.

spk_0 And I just want to say I actually think I found your page before maybe before you found

spk_0 hours.

spk_0 I'm not sure.

spk_0 But I just remember seeing, you know, these outstanding landscape photos and of geology.

spk_0 And I was like, okay, well, I kind of looked into it.

spk_0 And then I didn't get.

spk_0 I was like, oh my God, this is hilarious.

spk_0 And so I realized that there, I couldn't tell if this was, you know, just this guy's

spk_0 page that, you know, he was just doing this because he liked it.

spk_0 Or if it was a science communication thing.

spk_0 And I don't know if that's how it ended up, but it seems to be a really successful thing

spk_0 for you.

spk_0 But I do want to do something.

spk_0 I want to read one of your posts on here.

spk_0 If that's okay.

spk_0 Oh, yeah.

spk_0 Mind your, mind your plosives.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 And this one I think is actually about, yeah, from Crater Mountain.

spk_0 So there's this area.

spk_0 Can you read it in your Brian voice?

spk_0 What's my Brian voice?

spk_0 You know, the one I need to read.

spk_0 I know the one you're about to read.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Like laughing to myself.

spk_0 Exactly.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 Stories that Brian reads from Ken Tonics.

spk_0 There you go.

spk_0 Instagry.

spk_0 I give the credit.

spk_0 What?

spk_0 My feed is the best geology blog on Instagram.

spk_0 True yet is.

spk_0 But don't worry.

spk_0 I'm humble about it.

spk_0 There's something here for all of you, even the snobs who pretend I don't exist because

spk_0 I'm better, stronger, faster, wielding some of the most dazzling kung fu that they've

spk_0 ever witnessed.

spk_0 but it can be our little secret that I said,

spk_0 tiktotic shit, traveling can't get tenure geologist,

spk_0 talking trash about people, A. Cleachay 101,

spk_0 regurgitating crappologist.

spk_0 Here is where it's at.

spk_0 Owens Valley, at least I think,

spk_0 has the coolest feature I've ever seen in my entire life.

spk_0 An oblique normal ride lateral fault

spk_0 offsetting quaternary of the flows,

spk_0 which issued forth from crater mountain in the background.

spk_0 Dude, here is the proof you need.

spk_0 You can't glue fault shut.

spk_0 Duck tape won't solve this one.

spk_0 Okay, crater mountain is part of the greater

spk_0 big pine volcanic field,

spk_0 and which here is erupted basalt

spk_0 in basaltic andesite lava onto the floor of Owens Valley.

spk_0 The Owens Valley fault last ruptured about 7.9 million years ago

spk_0 back in, nope, sorry, 7.9 magnitude back in 1872,

spk_0 producing about 18 to 20 feet of offset

spk_0 with normal and right lateral movement over 30 miles.

spk_0 Dude, how far is this from the San Andreas fault?

spk_0 Like a couple of hundred miles,

spk_0 including entire sear and avadas,

spk_0 and still the stress on the earth here

spk_0 is mostly lateral.

spk_0 Dude, this is the transition zone

spk_0 between the tiktonant regime of the San Andreas

spk_0 and the basin and range province.

spk_0 Such a thing is the product of strained partitioning.

spk_0 In other words, the San Andreas fault is not weak enough

spk_0 to accommodate all the movement between the North American

spk_0 plate and the Pacific plate.

spk_0 In addition, the sear and avada mountains are mostly granite.

spk_0 I really like this part.

spk_0 Granite is a mesh of interlocking crystals,

spk_0 and it really, which really does not want to break.

spk_0 Thus, the real plate boundary is much more diffuse.

spk_0 Some even think that this is the site of the plate boundary

spk_0 and the San Andreas fault will become deactivated.

spk_0 Dude, welcome to the best geology blog on Instagram.

spk_0 Give me my price.

spk_0 Boom, boom.

spk_0 And so I read these things and I was like, man,

spk_0 I actually just learned a lot from reading that.

spk_0 And I'm not a student,

spk_0 and I still learned a ton from that.

spk_0 But it was hilarious.

spk_0 And so I immediately gravitated that to that.

spk_0 So did you mean for this to take off

spk_0 or was this just a...

spk_0 If you were to dig way deep into my first few posts

spk_0 on Instagram, it was just kind of,

spk_0 here's me hiking, here's fucking food on meeting.

spk_0 You know, there was just nothing to it.

spk_0 But I started meeting and it blew my mind

spk_0 because I didn't know there were more of us.

spk_0 I started meeting other geologists on there.

spk_0 I think the first person I met is Susan Laura.

spk_0 She goes by geologists on board.

spk_0 And we started talking shop about this and that.

spk_0 We met up a few times over the years.

spk_0 And I started really getting into it.

spk_0 And it's really started.

spk_0 All right, so I'm doing slightly more

spk_0 than just looking at half naked Brazilian women all day.

spk_0 I'm not.

spk_0 I'm actually using social networking to social networks.

spk_0 So I'm meeting with professors, other hikers,

spk_0 other photographers.

spk_0 Everybody who can possibly be remotely connected

spk_0 to thing that I do.

spk_0 And with all the travel that I do,

spk_0 I have people across the country.

spk_0 In December, I met up with somebody

spk_0 over at the Everglades National Park.

spk_0 You know, I met people in Seattle.

spk_0 I met the guy who co-authored

spk_0 or he was probably the principal author

spk_0 of the roadside geologist, Washington.

spk_0 Wow.

spk_0 It's been a tremendously enabling feature for me

spk_0 to just keep staying involved,

spk_0 and keep going, and keep learning.

spk_0 Mostly I would say it's,

spk_0 I'm not making money doing this.

spk_0 It's mostly just for my satisfaction, you know,

spk_0 what I want to do in my life.

spk_0 It enables me to make my contribution, you know,

spk_0 because the space is working environmental control.

spk_0 I'm not inventing any of this stuff.

spk_0 I'm not discovering this stuff,

spk_0 but I'm more or less thinking,

spk_0 here's this cool thing I found,

spk_0 I just thought, you know.

spk_0 No, right.

spk_0 And what I want to say when I hear in that is too,

spk_0 is like, it's, you're not,

spk_0 this is, it's not passive, right?

spk_0 So like, you can be a passive recipient

spk_0 of this information, but someone is just passively

spk_0 taking this in, being like,

spk_0 these are cool pictures,

spk_0 and I'm learning something,

spk_0 but like on your end,

spk_0 it's very active and engaging, right?

spk_0 So you're actually, it's a meaningful,

spk_0 I guess medium, like what you're doing, right?

spk_0 I mean, I guess what we're all doing in all of this too

spk_0 is the engagement is equally as important

spk_0 as the content that's being created.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 And I would say that my speed,

spk_0 probably half art, half science,

spk_0 like, you know, I'm dealing with as much photography

spk_0 as I am hard data.

spk_0 I guess I got that influence for my mom with an artist,

spk_0 my dad was a physics professor,

spk_0 and me, I'm just kind of like,

spk_0 toward my best brain, my right brain, you know,

spk_0 a cub war,

spk_0 and the reason these posts are so long,

spk_0 because I only ever post one up on the elliptical machine.

spk_0

spk_0 Wow.

spk_0 Oh my god.

spk_0 I run about an hour a day,

spk_0 and it's most fucking boring thing on earth.

spk_0 So I spend my time writing these long,

spk_0 you know, long-winded posts,

spk_0 and I try, you know, I try to make it fun,

spk_0 try to make it sort of obnoxious, funny,

spk_0 but sort of factually accurate.

spk_0 Yes, you could say I'm like the good will hunting

spk_0 of geology, I don't know.

spk_0 No, yeah, and I think it's trouble.

spk_0 And I would say to that,

spk_0 like I think humor is a very big important part of,

spk_0 like kind of, with all of that,

spk_0 because Brian and I, we gave a talk, right?

spk_0 And we talked about like the humor that we bring in

spk_0 with kind of the podcast to make it not.

spk_0 So I mean, make it more relatable and tangible,

spk_0 and I don't know,

spk_0 then just the coldness that sometimes you get

spk_0 from reading an article, right?

spk_0 How can we interject ourselves into it a little bit more?

spk_0 And maybe inspire a new generation of someone

spk_0 that maybe didn't even think about geology or science

spk_0 in such a way.

spk_0 Yeah, and we're not all lab coats and...

spk_0 Yeah, well, science doesn't say the most,

spk_0 it's not true.

spk_0 I know.

spk_0 But I think that it,

spk_0 what I like about science communication,

spk_0 because it can be something you,

spk_0 like there are people that only do that,

spk_0 but it can be a hobby that you're still being helpful

spk_0 while entertaining yourself,

spk_0 and learning and sharpening your tools, right?

spk_0 Because I think, you know,

spk_0 there may be someone that reads your post,

spk_0 can or listens to one of our episodes,

spk_0 it's like, you know what?

spk_0 I've been thinking about whether or not to do geology.

spk_0 I think I'm starting to see that maybe that's something

spk_0 I want to do or not.

spk_0 Maybe they're like,

spk_0 fuck no, I'm not doing that.

spk_0 Look at these.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 There's people, there's a lot.

spk_0 I get what I get a lot of,

spk_0 are people who went into something else,

spk_0 but they absolutely loved geology.

spk_0

spk_0 And so, you know,

spk_0 they're sitting there miserable,

spk_0 and they're office doing accounting.

spk_0 Well, they, you know, they read my post,

spk_0 and they have questions.

spk_0 I get a lot of really good feedback from those people.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So, one of my favorite people to meet up with,

spk_0 in person is undergrad,

spk_0 because they're just so into it.

spk_0 So, you know, period.

spk_0

spk_0 That, yeah, no less cocky good God.

spk_0 Like, I don't know about you,

spk_0 but dealing with other like industry geologists,

spk_0 it's just like,

spk_0 or what's worse as engineers,

spk_0 but they're just fucking cocky.

spk_0 And it's like, okay,

spk_0 well, who's dick is bigger at this site?

spk_0 And it's like,

spk_0 you all gotta cut this out.

spk_0 Well, you're is on.

spk_0 That's the mentality though.

spk_0 You're like, no.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 But that's the mentality.

spk_0 And it's just like,

spk_0 here we fucking go again.

spk_0 Like, you can see the guy that walks out.

spk_0 The women are usually cool.

spk_0 And they're like,

spk_0 being fucking helpful,

spk_0 and actually entertaining the problem that we need to solve.

spk_0 And there's always this fucking asshole

spk_0 that walks out on the field.

spk_0 And he's just like,

spk_0 all right,

spk_0 like who's gonna challenge me?

spk_0 It's like,

spk_0 motherfucker.

spk_0 But yeah, no, you, you,

spk_0 the interesting thing is like,

spk_0 another overlap is like,

spk_0 with the podcast and undergraduate geology students,

spk_0 like that's who it seems like.

spk_0 It does seem like.

spk_0 It's like,

spk_0 yeah, that and other creators.

spk_0 Well, I was, yeah,

spk_0 I was just gonna say like,

spk_0 just to speak to it all from my end,

spk_0 because I'm kind of on the other end of it all.

spk_0 And like I had mentioned,

spk_0 you know, I read that one book,

spk_0 and it just got me crazy thinking about geology,

spk_0 and then stumbled upon you guys,

spk_0 and then there's posts like Kins

spk_0 that just keep that curiosity and imagination just going.

spk_0 And so I think to me,

spk_0 that's one of the cool things about it.

spk_0 And like you said,

spk_0 you just keep learning.

spk_0 You're a continual learner.

spk_0 Yeah, I would say that as much as I am speaking,

spk_0 I'm probably learning,

spk_0 tenfold that amount.

spk_0 Yeah, yeah, same.

spk_0 Well, Ken, so you do this for fun

spk_0 while you're doing other field work, is that correct?

spk_0 Yeah, so I travel a lot for work.

spk_0 I'm frequently in Southern California,

spk_0 New Mexico, like I said,

spk_0 I've been to Seattle twice last year.

spk_0 I went to my end Florida.

spk_0 I'm all over the place.

spk_0 I was even in New York, Alabama, all over.

spk_0 And so I'm a big time hyper.

spk_0 And that's really where it becomes possible to do all this.

spk_0 Everywhere I go, I look up, you know, local hikes that I can do.

spk_0 And I always bring my everywhere I go,

spk_0 I bring my car, you know, half the time I do this.

spk_0 I don't even know what I'm looking at when I'm there.

spk_0 I just take a million pictures.

spk_0 And then I start looking it up, you know,

spk_0 when I get home and try to see if I can correlate

spk_0 what I've shot with, you know,

spk_0 what is documented for the region.

spk_0 I feel like that's a very nice thing that, like you've just said,

spk_0 because it kind of lets, you know,

spk_0 let's say those undergrads that are listening,

spk_0 you don't have to know everything right away.

spk_0 Yeah, man, I don't know anything.

spk_0 You know, I find out that's the more I know,

spk_0 the less understanding I have or I have more understanding.

spk_0 But it also enables you,

spk_0 averagingologists to make an unbiased observation, right?

spk_0 So you're sitting there, you're looking at these, you know,

spk_0 cross-bending structures that have some laminar feature on them.

spk_0 And you can sort of ponder it, put it together in your head

spk_0 and then prove or disprove yourself

spk_0 when you're looking up the data later.

spk_0 Or maybe you disagree, maybe you disagree

spk_0 with the technical report, you know?

spk_0 Yeah, and I think that's a good thing for listeners too.

spk_0 I mean, that are interested in geology

spk_0 or are young budding geologists,

spk_0 it's like, look at something,

spk_0 but try to come up with like three or four different explanations

spk_0 to explain it again.

spk_0 Is there are multiple ways to arrive at it?

spk_0 And, you know, the more that you can like tease out,

spk_0 like kind of like, well, this could be a possibility,

spk_0 this could be a possibility.

spk_0 You're honing your skills on what it could be indifferent.

spk_0 You're allowing yourself to allow for the possibility

spk_0 of it being more than just one way.

spk_0 Yeah, and also like, no matter even if you decide not to go

spk_0 a certain path with explaining something,

spk_0 whatever explanation is,

spk_0 you should write down these linear thoughts.

spk_0 Like, what did you start observing at the beginning

spk_0 and then what were your interpretations?

spk_0 What did you, you know, cross stuff out,

spk_0 like make a note, oh, no, I'm not going this path

spk_0 because X, Y, whatever.

spk_0 There is no way that you go out in the field

spk_0 and you're already going to answer the questions right then.

spk_0 So you need all of that background,

spk_0 you're cognitive awareness the entire time.

spk_0 There is a lot, a lot of data to work over

spk_0 before you make any, any decision about anything that it is.

spk_0 Absolutely.

spk_0 That's why the project's budget people for longer than a day.

spk_0 Right. Like, yep.

spk_0 Yeah, so would you say that this is something like you'd like

spk_0 to pursue further?

spk_0 So let's say someone like offers you, I don't know,

spk_0 a social media contract and you know,

spk_0 other such things?

spk_0 Yes, like they will say, okay, like let's say,

spk_0 REI comes to you and they're like, okay,

spk_0 put as you do your geology stuff, put this backpack

spk_0 in one of your posts.

spk_0 Would you do that?

spk_0 Like drop your job.

spk_0 Uh, you know, I'm kind of, I've been,

spk_0 I have been approached for different

spk_0 than you advertise this for that.

spk_0 And I feel like I will just hemorrhage my story.

spk_0 I feel like the authenticity of my feed is, you know,

spk_0 I'm doing this as a genuine person with genuinely no

spk_0 selfishness.

spk_0 I think that if I were to somehow attract the attention

spk_0 of some professor out there who thinks I would be a good candidate

spk_0 for, you know, a graduate role, you know, please reach out

spk_0 to me.

spk_0 Outside of that, I really, you know, I'm gainfully employed.

spk_0 I'm looking at my house hunting right now.

spk_0 I'm not, I'm not hurting for, you know, petty cash

spk_0 to sell somebody a fucking backpack.

spk_0 Yeah, I don't, I don't think REI is going to buy your house.

spk_0 Maybe you could blossom.

spk_0 I mean, you could blossom in like,

spk_0 I, and another thing is, another thing is national,

spk_0 national geographic doesn't return my phone call.

spk_0 Oh, but there was, I don't know.

spk_0 Your photo of the ship pot is pretty damn good.

spk_0 So, yeah.

spk_0 So, yeah, I know like your call for a graduate school,

spk_0 like I just want to just again throw it out there.

spk_0 If anybody is knows anybody, how to get to Antarctica,

spk_0 like I'm more than willing to sell myself

spk_0 all together.

spk_0 Yeah, I can't.

spk_0 So I need to get on a research project with somebody.

spk_0 Cool.

spk_0 Are boats safer than planes?

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 I have to be better.

spk_0 You have to take an airplane to get,

spk_0 I think South America or Australia to take a ship there.

spk_0 But anyways, let me know if anybody's going.

spk_0 Okay, so while I'm not going to ask you to marry me, Ken,

spk_0 but so can you, so you do have a backpack?

spk_0 You said a text break.

spk_0 So, because I'm married to Brian, obviously,

spk_0 and he's right in front of you.

spk_0 But so you're a photographer.

spk_0 So can you explain just a little bit about your process

spk_0 of setting up your shot?

spk_0 So like there's a, do you have an idea that you have

spk_0 and try to capture that?

spk_0 Because I know this is a silly question

spk_0 that you said that you go hiking, you bring your camera.

spk_0 But do you see something and then try to capture that moment

spk_0 if that makes sense?

spk_0 Or is it a, I guess, somewhere in between?

spk_0 And then also will follow up to that would be

spk_0 like the camera setting.

spk_0 So, you know, like the, the shit, like the,

spk_0 it's foreign language to me.

spk_0 Like when you talk about like the ISO, the lens,

spk_0 focal depth, exposure, blah, blah, blah, blah.

spk_0 So it's impressive like the, the outcome.

spk_0 Because you have to envision it's at some point

spk_0 in setting up shots, I heard is important.

spk_0 That's like, you're asking him to give us secrets.

spk_0 No, no, no, no, no.

spk_0 That's like, hey, what reverb setting

spk_0 are you using on this track?

spk_0 Well, I mean, like that shit's foreign language to me.

spk_0 Like if I could, I'd do that.

spk_0 I would do it.

spk_0 But like, well, you don't make it into like your exact settings.

spk_0 But is it, do you have it set up in your head?

spk_0 How you want it to be?

spk_0 Or is it just kind of like, I'm gonna capture it.

spk_0 And it is, it is 100% unique for every situation.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 But there are, there are some constant.

spk_0 I never, I don't care how, how shitty it turns out.

spk_0 I will never shoot above ISO 100.

spk_0 Because the higher you bump that ISO up,

spk_0 the more draining the image gets.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 So is that, can you tell for the non-camera people,

spk_0 like me, what the hell in ISO is?

spk_0 And ISO, institutional standards or something, I don't know.

spk_0 It's an international standard for the cameras

spk_0 sensitivity to light.

spk_0 So increasing that enables you to collect more light,

spk_0 but not as a function of, you know, the lens view.

spk_0 So it just increases the, the sensors sensitivity to light,

spk_0 not the amount of light.

spk_0 So a lot of times you lose data in the form of greening

spk_0 that you start kicking up.

spk_0 A lot of wildlife photographers, you know,

spk_0 because animals are moving around a lot.

spk_0 And they have to shoot at super fast,

spk_0 shutters, we'll tend to kick up the ISO

spk_0 and do some noise reduction post processing

spk_0 to get that sharp image.

spk_0 But I'm photographing fucking rock.

spk_0 I don't need to deal with, I don't need to deal with,

spk_0 you know, ISO.

spk_0 So I keep it at 100.

spk_0 That's a pretty standard number for photography.

spk_0 Yeah, because I'm, oh no, yeah, because like,

spk_0 then would you keep it, I guess, you would lengthen

spk_0 that to if you were, or I guess that would be the,

spk_0 how long you keep it open, like the,

spk_0 those nighttime photographers where they get like the,

spk_0 you can get the movement of them.

spk_0 You keep it on a tripod or something, I don't know.

spk_0 The problem with that, and this is the downside

spk_0 of what I do it is because I'm hiking.

spk_0 A lot of times, a lot of times I just don't take my tripod

spk_0 because I just don't want to carry it.

spk_0 I don't want to wait.

spk_0 If I'm doing a short thing, then the,

spk_0 and you know, absolutely, if I'm trying to do milky way

spk_0 or, you know, stars and stuff like that,

spk_0 yeah, you definitely need a tripod from that.

spk_0 I also shoot in a, a, a setting that we call exposure bracket.

spk_0 So my camera, when I press the,

spk_0 the picture button, it shoots a five round burst of photos

spk_0 at different shutter speeds.

spk_0 So there'll be one super fast shutter speed,

spk_0 and there'll be one super slow shutter speed.

spk_0 And what I do is I take it to my computer later,

spk_0 I merge all those five pictures into one,

spk_0 and it enables me to get much greater control

spk_0 over the shadows in the highlights.

spk_0 So you don't have this big white blotch

spk_0 that, you know, blows out one side of the photo.

spk_0 You have nice, you know, visible shadows,

spk_0 or, and it presents you from getting these black, you know,

spk_0 useless shadows while you have, you know,

spk_0 nice detail and clouds.

spk_0 So it enables me to work on every aspect of the image

spk_0 of all in one shot.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So you're basically creating the mean

spk_0 out of your sample set.

spk_0 That's kind of cool.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So, so you're doing this.

spk_0 Sometimes I, what I picture is,

spk_0 I know you do this while hiking,

spk_0 but I'm thinking you're like a rogue theology employee

spk_0 and you're like, I'm gonna take pictures while that work.

spk_0 So I, and so it spawned me darn.

spk_0 Yeah, and I went to, I do.

spk_0 Yeah, you're terrible at your travel.

spk_0 Yeah, mine are like on my iPhone and the normal one.

spk_0 So, but I want to know, you and I are both,

spk_0 at least part of the time, field geologist.

spk_0 What's the worst field disaster that you either caused?

spk_0 We'll scratch that.

spk_0 Witnessed.

spk_0 Yeah, witness.

spk_0 Let's go with witness.

spk_0 I won't throw you under the bus.

spk_0 Well, one of the jobs, the last job I had before my current job,

spk_0 we were doing groundwater injections

spk_0 through either monitoring or dedicated injection well,

spk_0 meaning we're pumping solutions into the aquifer.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And a lot of times you have the well that you don't have

spk_0 the right fitting to hook up to them.

spk_0 I hope your injection closes up to them.

spk_0 You have to use what they call a packer.

spk_0 Okay, yeah, I know what it's called.

spk_0 Right, so a packer is this inflatable bladder

spk_0 that you lower to a certain depth in the well and inflate it

spk_0 and you start injecting, you know, throw it

spk_0 and it prevents everything from coming up out of the way.

spk_0 Because you're forcing everything to go into the formation.

spk_0 So, we were just named the co-worker,

spk_0 fucking asshole, by the way.

spk_0 We were going to go ahead and name drop him?

spk_0 Sure.

spk_0 I told him, don't fuck Steven,

spk_0 don't fuck Steven.

spk_0 Don't get me wrong, we're still friends.

spk_0 We still go out for beers, but we're in the trailer.

spk_0 That's good, sir.

spk_0 We're in the trailer monitoring, you know, pressure,

spk_0 flow rate, you know, how much it has left in the tank

spk_0 before we make the new tank of solutions.

spk_0 And also in the pressure just dropped almost to zero.

spk_0 We went down to like 20 PSI and we were injecting it.

spk_0 60, yeah, that was good.

spk_0 So we just, we did this thing where we just look at each other.

spk_0 Didn't have to say we're run out there.

spk_0 And then we just see this fucking balloon coming up

spk_0 out of the well, inflating, inflating.

spk_0 And this is like half inch rubber, okay?

spk_0 So this thing, and we had it set, you know,

spk_0 our cut off or on the air compressor was like 60 PSI,

spk_0 but we're not getting 60 PS.

spk_0 There's no limit.

spk_0 So this thing is just inflating, inflating,

spk_0 and then she says to me, this is why he's an asshole.

spk_0 He says to me, go turn off the compressor.

spk_0 Compressor's sitting there right next to this thing

spk_0 that's blowing up.

spk_0 Sorry.

spk_0 Turn around.

spk_0 I said to him, mother fucker, you go turn around.

spk_0 For real?

spk_0 Turn off a split second later.

spk_0 Wow.

spk_0 Boom.

spk_0 We exploded.

spk_0 Let me tell you something.

spk_0 The biggest piece that we found was like the size

spk_0 of a fingernail.

spk_0 Huh?

spk_0 There were holes in the fucking wall.

spk_0 I was just gonna, right now it,

spk_0 there's the vegetation, all the vegetation surrounding

spk_0 the well, like, like, boom.

spk_0 It was like, go turn off the compressor.

spk_0 What the fuck?

spk_0 Wow.

spk_0 Okay, that's pretty bad.

spk_0 So I have a rubber joke.

spk_0 Oh yeah.

spk_0 What do condoms and rattlesnakes have in common?

spk_0 I don't fuck with either.

spk_0 You've literally told this joke.

spk_0 So I gotta tell my rubber joke that I've said

spk_0 directly after you've told that joke.

spk_0 What did the condoms say when it flew across the room?

spk_0 Or wait, why?

spk_0 Sorry.

spk_0 Why did the condom fly across the room?

spk_0 It was pissed off.

spk_0 I know them.

spk_0

spk_0 I'm not wrong.

spk_0 Did your bug friends tell you that joke?

spk_0 They tell me lots of things.

spk_0 Jesus.

spk_0 Oh yeah.

spk_0 That's pretty bad.

spk_0 Yeah, intense.

spk_0 Oh my God.

spk_0 All right, so I think before we go any further,

spk_0 we should appease the, what do you call them?

spk_0 Australians.

spk_0 Well, I don't know.

spk_0 I'd pay the sponsor.

spk_0 Oh yeah, we got it.

spk_0 So this is where we're going to insert a sponsor.

spk_0 Bip, bip.

spk_0 And now we're going to do a little bit of mineral.

spk_0 Oh yeah.

spk_0 Mineral minutes.

spk_0 Mineral.

spk_0

spk_0 Mineral.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 So this week's mineral mineral is brought to you by the new

spk_0 and improved titanium silver gold anti-mony,

spk_0 anti-mony, soulful salt, thunder bayite.

spk_0 Thunder bayite's chemical formula is TI-AG3AU.

spk_0 AU3SV7S.

spk_0

spk_0 Oh, I got it.

spk_0 Thunder bayite is black in color.

spk_0 And also a straight splack.

spk_0 And...

spk_0 AAH!

spk_0 Oh God.

spk_0 Thunder bayite has a hardness of three.

spk_0 The hardness scale.

spk_0 Hmm, that thunder now.

spk_0 Yeah, basically.

spk_0 Thunder bayite has no observable cleavage

spk_0 and has an irregular to uneven fracture.

spk_0 Right, and thunder bayite has a density of 5.693

spk_0 grams per cubic centimeter.

spk_0 And that is calculated.

spk_0 Thunder bayite is weekly anyostrophic.

spk_0 And I stro-

spk_0 There's gonna be words later on.

spk_0 And I don't wanna say.

spk_0 To light blue rotation, tense.

spk_0 Oh!

spk_0 Thunder bayite has weak cleocroism

spk_0 and appears gray in the busted light.

spk_0 Reflective percentages for the forecom-

spk_0 Commissioned on order meteorology wavelengths.

spk_0 AR.

spk_0 AR, men.

spk_0 AR, max, AR.

spk_0 37.9.

spk_0 38.4.

spk_0 4.

spk_0 171.1 nanometers.

spk_0 35.336.

spk_0 548.3.

spk_0 There's 33.934.4.

spk_0 586.6 nanometers.

spk_0 And 32.5652.3 nanometers respectively.

spk_0 I want you to repeat.

spk_0 What does that mean?

spk_0 Oh no.

spk_0 Thunder bayites mean of five electron micropros-

spk_0 Analyses gave silver.

spk_0 14.9116.

spk_0 Um, are you 27.4022?

spk_0 Titanium.

spk_0 Titanium 9.379.

spk_0 Antimony.

spk_0 I like Antimony.

spk_0 SB.

spk_0 30.39.84.

spk_0 And silver.

spk_0 Silver.

spk_0

spk_0 You already said silver.

spk_0 Silver.

spk_0 8.61.7 for a total of 100.9.

spk_0 0.09.

spk_0 Um, percent.

spk_0 Wait, percent.

spk_0 Corresponding on the basis of a total of 20 atoms to...

spk_0 Don't worry about that.

spk_0 Don't sing that.

spk_0 So Thunder Bayite is part of the tri-clinic crystal system.

spk_0 And in the crystal class of one, aka, padeal.

spk_0 He's like, let me give it easy.

spk_0 I'm like, tell.

spk_0 Because I edit it.

spk_0 You don't, don't read that one.

spk_0 Come on.

spk_0 I was just being a dick.

spk_0 He could do it.

spk_0 I know he can.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 Here we go.

spk_0 Thunder Bayite's base group is p1 with the 8.0882.

spk_0 5.

spk_0 Uh, b equals 7.8492.

spk_0 5.

spk_0 d equals 20 point 0.0781.

spk_0 Thanks for your thanks.

spk_0 Thanks for your time.

spk_0 Oh, thanks for your time.

spk_0 And 9.

spk_0 Alpha equals 9.2.518, 5.

spk_0 Beta equals 93.7395.

spk_0 Gamma equals 90 point 0.086 degrees.

spk_0 Those are all the three.

spk_0 I know.

spk_0 We don't know.

spk_0 B equals 1, 2, 7, 0.739.

spk_0 And the Z-clinic is that cubic?

spk_0 Oh, that's volume.

spk_0 It's an extreme.

spk_0 You don't know how to hyper.

spk_0 We don't hyper here.

spk_0 Z equals 2.

spk_0 And that's where I said, mal, give me something else.

spk_0 Thunder Bayite's 5 strongest powder diffraction lines.

spk_0 D and angstrom.

spk_0 What?

spk_0 That's a capital I.

spk_0 I over I zero.

spk_0 And then fuck this up.

spk_0 What is HK?

spk_0 Oh, I know what HK is.

spk_0 I do know.

spk_0 I'm not going to go into that.

spk_0 That's the crystallography stuff.

spk_0 This is all crystallography.

spk_0 Yeah, our 4.04 on the 1.00 and 2.00 plane.

spk_0 3.92.

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 That is 80 point.

spk_0 Yeah, we got a lot of numbers here.

spk_0 And then it ends with the number seven.

spk_0 Thunder Bayite's type locality is from the Himalow gold deposit.

spk_0 Bomby, township, thunder bay district, Ontario, Kanada.

spk_0 I'll be there on Thursday.

spk_0 I'm going to Canada.

spk_0 We'll get some gold.

spk_0 I'm going to Alberta.

spk_0 Oh, Bayite is associated with other minerals such as arousa, thyme, arousa, thyme, and

spk_0 calcite.

spk_0 Calcite, really?

spk_0 Yeah, right.

spk_0 Like we said all that shit and we throw out calcite.

spk_0 Next we see ICO, right?

spk_0 The next one.

spk_0 Thunder Bayite.

spk_0 It's related to some of these minerals.

spk_0 Mugrite.

spk_0 Mugrite?

spk_0 Susan are great.

spk_0 Vidalite.

spk_0 Baroscovite.

spk_0 Brut.

spk_0 Archi-Basite.

spk_0 Cammy and I.

spk_0 Rayberite.

spk_0 Boot.

spk_0 Bootie and I.

spk_0 Bunny and I.

spk_0 And spulite.

spk_0 Maybe I said spulite.

spk_0

spk_0 Spulite.

spk_0 Stay tuned.

spk_0 Stay tuned for next week's spulite.

spk_0

spk_0 We're going to get into the little bit more of the technical side.

spk_0 So the geology of Arizona.

spk_0 So the main technical part of the show will be discussing just a smidge of the geology of the Wild West state of Arizona.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And we're going to forget about the maybe, maybe the Graham Canyon.

spk_0 So you know the most famous geologic feature, maybe ever.

spk_0 I love Graham Crackling.

spk_0 But I know.

spk_0 You know that's every time I've said the Graham Canyon, I say it as Graham Canyon.

spk_0 And that's from the Rugrats.

spk_0 Oh, really?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So, but Arizona is home to several active volcanoes, including the San Francisco volcanic field in northern Arizona.

spk_0 Which is a member of that on our table.

spk_0 Hell yeah, we do.

spk_0 And then we have the meteor crater that is one of the best preserved impact craters on earth that formed over 50,000 years ago.

spk_0 That's a matter of matter.

spk_0 Yeah, it's over a mile diameter, right?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 It's huge.

spk_0 And then also what people might not know is that there is a petrified forest national park that is home to one of the largest and most colorful concentrations of petrified wood.

spk_0 So in the world from trees that are estimated to be get this 225 million years old and preserved, you know, through the the silica rich groundwater that's flowed through it.

spk_0 And then one more thing about the silica rich groundwater geologists from the area.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 This is just.

spk_0

spk_0 The interesting thing about that is that it's volcanic ash.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 This is a fairly distant from where it erupted from and it ended up settling there.

spk_0 A silica does dissolve in groundwater.

spk_0 It's very slow.

spk_0 So you have these logs that were sitting there buried in river mud and the ash settled on top.

spk_0 It dissolved and it percolated through and remember mud does not want to transmit water.

spk_0 Mud wants the whole water.

spk_0 It will transmit extremely slowly.

spk_0 So this is like having something like this is like winning geological lottery.

spk_0 It's a pretty amazing place.

spk_0 Well, having the geodid the the Grand Canyon too.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Oh yeah.

spk_0 And then also the geologic lottery.

spk_0 You all have one of the largest copper deposits in the world and is so it's also home to the beautiful dessert landscape of the sonoran deserts.

spk_0 But enough for me.

spk_0 We want to know more about here from you because we're obviously not in Arizona.

spk_0

spk_0 So we have this real deal like we're saying an Arizona based geologist here.

spk_0 So we've just maybe I assume all of us have been there.

spk_0 Have you been to Arizona, Carly?

spk_0 Carly is not yet.

spk_0 Have you?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 So you've been.

spk_0 And so it's it's quite a feat to even drive through that state.

spk_0 Can I remember not understanding the geologic history of that?

spk_0 I don't know why I passed over that one.

spk_0 I focused on it.

spk_0 But let's just like flat.

spk_0 You think it is.

spk_0 No, you're not.

spk_0 And you're like you get out there and it's like, okay, either I'm crazy.

spk_0 There's a million tough cones here.

spk_0 And I don't know what's going on.

spk_0 Why here in Arizona?

spk_0 So I'm really curious.

spk_0 I'm just can to know about your favorite Arizona geologasms, if I may say like the things that are like like you know you just you really latch on to those as far as what you would want to tell people about.

spk_0 And so maybe we can hear about a few of them.

spk_0 But wait, real quick.

spk_0 Can we get that all I am known for is quick.

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 Can we get the big one?

spk_0 Not the big one out of the way.

spk_0 Big one.

spk_0 So everyone like everyone everyone from America has written to us about this.

spk_0 They want to know about the Grand Canyon.

spk_0 Grand.

spk_0 Yeah, I was reading a post on what you know a little.

spk_0 What are they called?

spk_0 Is it a post?

spk_0 Do you think it's a post?

spk_0 Yeah, I was reading blog.

spk_0 Yeah, one of those.

spk_0 And you wrote something about structural lows and without having them there, there wouldn't be a grand.

spk_0 So that I thought that was really, really interesting.

spk_0 But in general, if you want to talk about the Grand Canyon or if you want to talk about that.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Take it from here.

spk_0 Ken.

spk_0 The show's yours.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 Well, you have you know the great on conformity, which separates the separates the two Pete sandstone,

spk_0 which is like basically a Cambrian beach about the ocean and approached over the land after a very long period of erosion,

spk_0 which is probably attributed to a global glacial event in the protozoic.

spk_0 But is that associated with snow worth and no, were you thinking after that?

spk_0 Yes.

spk_0 Oh, they think that snow wall earth caused the erosion that led to the great conformity.

spk_0 So basically you have in the, the Grand Canyon is an incision into the Kaibad plateau,

spk_0 which rises above the Colorado plateau.

spk_0 The Colorado plateau is a region of the Rocky Mountains that everything kind of uplifted at the same rate.

spk_0 So there's very little structural deformation.

spk_0 There's some monocline, some uplift here in there.

spk_0 But the Kaibad plateau really stands even higher above all of that.

spk_0 And it seems to have at least on the east and inside of the canyon.

spk_0 It seems to have risen along this fault line.

spk_0 It's called the butte fault.

spk_0 Now in the protozoic, this was a normal fault.

spk_0 And it dropped all of those pre Cambrian sedimentary sequences, you know, base formations,

spk_0 how caught high formations.

spk_0 There's a hundred of them.

spk_0 It dropped those to a fairly deep burial depth where they were sort of rapidly buried and protected for a long time.

spk_0 But the fault, it remained as a weakness.

spk_0 So during the Laramide Arrogion, you know, pretentious Rocky Mountains building events, the fault reversal orientation and uplifted,

spk_0 or it helps uplift the Kaibad plateau.

spk_0 And it acted as sort of a blind, you know, reverse fault.

spk_0 So the fault didn't break through all the layers that came, you know, during the Paleozoic, you know,

spk_0 the Red Wall line zone, the Hermit formation, Kaibad, all these layers that diskake that stood on top of it.

spk_0 And instead of breaking through all of that, it just sort of worked it up along these huge monocline complex,

spk_0 a monocline that's a fold that has one one limb.

spk_0 So it's not an apex or a dipping fold, which is kind of flat, you know, in the landscape.

spk_0 Yeah, so it's a good way to put it.

spk_0 Yeah, they're associated with the like deep seated faults at reverse and then you just have the overlying strata over it on one side,

spk_0 kind of down, or you get warped.

spk_0 And you can actually see that from one point, it's supposed coming up this week, I have a whole bunch of pictures of it.

spk_0 You can see the monocline that missed the Kaibad plateau above the college.

spk_0 And do I tell my embarrassing story or what?

spk_0 I do want you to and actually let's hold that for one second, because I want to talk about there's a lot.

spk_0 The Grand Canyon is used by a certain like the creationist, right, as a, as an example of rapid erosion, canyon formula.

spk_0 And I don't get it, but the interesting story about that is they use the Grand Canyon and they actually use a canyon here in Texas that was formed in 2002.

spk_0 So just think about that for a second in one day.

spk_0 And it was actually they don't realize it was a spillway event at a dam.

spk_0 And they say that this thing dissected 200 meters in one day.

spk_0 What does that mean about the Grand Canyon?

spk_0 And the reason they dissected that is the spillway fucking flew, right?

spk_0 You had a bunch of flow over that and you have a 200, 200 meter displacement fault.

spk_0 That's why that happened.

spk_0 But my thing about what you're talking about, yeah.

spk_0 And so what I'm talking like what I'm thinking about what you just said is your mentoring pro-rezoic normal faults, like this stuff is fucking billions of years old, right?

spk_0 And so do you think that you know are these, I don't know if you've looked into any of this stuff.

spk_0 I was told by a family member that I had to watch a DVD, yeah, DVD about the Grand Canyon, how is less than 6,000 years old?

spk_0 And so my thing is like, are they are thinking about that?

spk_0 And so the question, here's a thing, they have this thing they call creation science.

spk_0 It's not science.

spk_0 Science is going out, going out in the world collecting data and creating a model.

spk_0 Creation science is going out in the world with your model and fitting your data to it.

spk_0 So yeah, extremely biased.

spk_0 It's not just that they think the Grand Canyon is 6,000 years old.

spk_0 They think the whole earth is that.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And I have a unique insight into this because I was on a date with this girl that I met in this hiking group that I was in.

spk_0 And I'm just standing there on the rim of the canyon.

spk_0 I'm like, there's the great, great, and the four-rear, there's a breast-y-pipe and the radioactive breast-y-pipe and the red, red-bow-aligned stone.

spk_0 Look down there, that's the coclino sandstone and the math of deserts, 300 million years ago.

spk_0 And the GU separates 1.8 billion years.

spk_0 She goes, you really think the earth is that old?

spk_0 Oh, no.

spk_0 I just looked at her and I'm like, well, look here, there's truffle shells and we're at 8,000 feet elevation.

spk_0 There's a fucking show.

spk_0 It was a year, yeah.

spk_0 And she says, oh, that's just the way they cut the rock.

spk_0 That's how the...

spk_0 You're not lying.

spk_0 Dude, there is this thing on YouTube.

spk_0 And this...

spk_0 Like, I remember watching this like before I ever even thought about pursuing geology, right?

spk_0 And this person made videos about they said paleontologist secretly craft.

spk_0 Like, what was that shit that we used to do in elementary school?

spk_0 Paper mache.

spk_0 They make paper mache fossils and then go and inject them in the earth while they're digging so that it looks like they're pulling out.

spk_0 It's like what for say?

spk_0 Yeah, for say.

spk_0 Faking made her say that.

spk_0 Well, that's really good.

spk_0 I didn't really...

spk_0 Did you really go to college?

spk_0 I went to a state in school.

spk_0 I just wonder, like, do they just just miss that?

spk_0 And they're like, hey, well, I don't want to talk about that.

spk_0 You know, I...

spk_0 They have an answer for everything.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 They're big.

spk_0 The zoom the whole flat earth is just dying.

spk_0 You know.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 You don't even need to pay attention to that.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 That's really good.

spk_0 I mean, we could talk about the Grand Canyon as an entire episode, but we wanted to get some more stuff, you know, from you about why Arizona is cool.

spk_0 Why people should go visit?

spk_0 Why do they should go hike there, right?

spk_0 So we...

spk_0 Well, something I wanted to say is we have dinosaurs, dinosaur bones and nice or tracks and Texas.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 But I feel like that's not really the same ones that you have in Arizona.

spk_0 I was hoping maybe we could talk about that.

spk_0 What are your...

spk_0 What are yours preserved in, Brian?

spk_0 Uh, mudstone, limestone, uh, shaman...

spk_0 Oh, limestone, limestone, not moral.

spk_0 Not f...

spk_0 Oh, that's your favorite.

spk_0 God damn it.

spk_0 Moral.

spk_0 Is it a buddy lime or is it a liby mud?

spk_0 God damn it.

spk_0 Well, not moral.

spk_0 That's for 50.

spk_0 It's not 50, 50.

spk_0 Fitty, fitty, fitty.

spk_0 It's not that.

spk_0 It's not.

spk_0 Uh, but the Glenrose formation.

spk_0 Right?

spk_0 That's a big one.

spk_0 Um, and that's where...

spk_0 I've been there.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Uh, and it's not...

spk_0 There's, like, it's not really that far from it.

spk_0 We have the lateral equivalent up here and that's the Goodland.

spk_0 Um, we have the Goodland and then there's...

spk_0 If you go a little, like, the basal, Cretaceous sands, also have it and the Pallucsi formation.

spk_0 Um, but they're all Cretaceous stuff.

spk_0 So dinosaurs were a little different.

spk_0 Like, we have the Tranosaur, right?

spk_0 And the, like, the other therataceous.

spk_0 Yeah, but I think you have some older stuff.

spk_0 I'm a little bit of a griff.

spk_0 You guys have some older stuff that we have.

spk_0 We have visibly absent in Texas altogether.

spk_0 Exactly.

spk_0 And we don't really...

spk_0 We may have a little bit, but that's...

spk_0 We have...

spk_0 I can not honestly tell you, Triassic Jurassic.

spk_0 Uh, the boundary is probably somewhere within a hundred feet of section up or down.

spk_0 Of this formation.

spk_0 It's called the Moanave formation.

spk_0 Uh, now the Moanave is sort of blood-brain, uh, lecusteryan, which means like, you know, river, river stilts and sands.

spk_0 That interfinger, you know, with...

spk_0 I love fingering.

spk_0 I love interfingering stuff.

spk_0 Hell yeah.

spk_0 The best.

spk_0 So long.

spk_0 The interfingered quiver.

spk_0 Like with the fog.

spk_0 The...

spk_0 The Winggate formation, which is purely aolean desert.

spk_0 So basically, you had this fairly temperate.

spk_0 Uh, it was dry, you know, the rivers and the...

spk_0 The floods would be ephemeral.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 But...

spk_0 You had a stable landform if you had aolean stuff.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 And then, you know, the Winggate, the...

spk_0 The...

spk_0 The sand sea of the Winggate was crotch on it and you treat, you know, over time.

spk_0 So long story short, you had the...

spk_0 Shortly lived, uh, pools of water adjacent, probably adjacent to rivers, the...

spk_0 Overbank, uh, flooding event, that.

spk_0 Like in the Lion King, when they're at the waterhole?

spk_0 Yeah, it's like a waterhole.

spk_0 But it was like a dinosaur, uh, fucking mosh pit.

spk_0 There are hundreds.

spk_0 It's a hundred way to put that.

spk_0 There's hundreds of tracks.

spk_0 And the tracks over print other tracks.

spk_0 And then you can follow one.

spk_0 You can measure their stride length.

spk_0 And you can determine when walking, running.

spk_0 That's so cool.

spk_0 And that really, it's like so many tracks.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Now, the thing about this place, it's located just outside to the city.

spk_0 It's on Navajoway.

spk_0 Now, I have nothing against Navajo people.

spk_0 They're deeply beautiful and cultured.

spk_0 Uh, this site does not seem to have any significant to them.

spk_0 It's not part of their, you know, spiritual realm, uh, whatever they have.

spk_0 So what you get there are these guys that are just kind of down on their luck.

spk_0 They're just trying to make a few bucks and they pretend that it's the park.

spk_0 They pretend that they're torrid.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So they, you pull up to it and they start demanding money and they're going to give you a tour.

spk_0 You know, I always get some of the sheep up because, you know, why not?

spk_0 And then they take you out there on the field with the tracks.

spk_0 And they tell you, oh, this one is a velocity after this one is a turbulent source track.

spk_0 This one is dilapidated.

spk_0 Like, yeah, I saw a Jurassic Park too.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Those are critacious.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And, you know, you just kind of nod.

spk_0 If you say so, I just kind of pay them to go away, you know, yeah.

spk_0 So you can even determine the dinosaurs behavior.

spk_0 You can see how they slip in the mud.

spk_0 The mud with, let's start sliding all over the place.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 It's awesome.

spk_0 You can see how they pivot on their feet when they change direction.

spk_0 Do you think there was like some kind of thing going on that they were all running in the same

spk_0 direction or like we said, like a watering hole, they all just congregated at.

spk_0 It just seems less the remarkable thing about this place is that it seems to be that there

spk_0 are multiple animals there at all times.

spk_0 Big ones, little ones, and there's no sign of aggression.

spk_0 There's no inference of thrashing every single track that I've measured is walking at a casual

spk_0 pace.

spk_0 And there has to have been up to, you know, 10, 15 of these guys there at once based on the way the track

spk_0 is over.

spk_0 A lot of this comes from conversation.

spk_0 I have to name drop something.

spk_0 A lot of this comes from conversation I have with a really remarkable radiant young woman

spk_0 who's doing a TVC technology, technology is a study of trace boxes.

spk_0 The popples of things that are alive, not dead.

spk_0 Her name is Jen.

spk_0 If you know Jen, she's a badass.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And so interesting that it was a peaceful place.

spk_0 I guess I can say that in a way.

spk_0 Did you see like evidence of like youth, like youth, dinosaurs, there's tiny, there's tiny little tracks.

spk_0 They're all pheropods.

spk_0 Oh wow.

spk_0 You think of pheropods as these sort of menacing thrashing, you know, savage, you know, animals,

spk_0 but there are little tiny tracks, next big tracks.

spk_0 I wonder if it's young.

spk_0 I don't really know.

spk_0 I'm not there.

spk_0 Is there like sleeping place or something?

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 No, I wonder if it was mothers with children.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 Make me think.

spk_0 So cool.

spk_0 Well, hey, feel free to take me when I'm out there.

spk_0 Next month, I've got two field trips.

spk_0 So they finally pushed them all to April.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Well, I got another question for you about Arizona.

spk_0 What is Arizona State mineral?

spk_0 And where can I find it?

spk_0 Turquoise.

spk_0 You'll find it, you know, all the mind of the copper mine, have it in some percentage.

spk_0 I've seen a whole lot of it.

spk_0 We have mine clients at my job.

spk_0 They gave me a big chunk of rock that has that blue green color to it.

spk_0 And it's either $10,000 worth of turquoise or a $30 worth of copper oxide.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 That's what I was wondering.

spk_0

spk_0 There's a lot of copper out there that can look like turquoise.

spk_0 But I mean, even so, it's still cool.

spk_0 You're gorgeous.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I love turquoise.

spk_0 But I like the copper minerals.

spk_0 I do too.

spk_0 So for sake of time, we're going to, I would like to really talk about vulc...

spk_0 ...canism because that was the big wow factor for me in Arizona, right?

spk_0

spk_0 I guess I just didn't expect that.

spk_0 I don't know why.

spk_0 And so maybe we could talk about why it's there, maybe the last volcanic episode,

spk_0 or maybe it's still going.

spk_0 I think there's a couple of active...

spk_0 Yeah, that's right.

spk_0 ...acto volcanoes.

spk_0 So like the big ones that happened.

spk_0 And then there's a very specific one we would love to talk about.

spk_0 I think you know what it's called.

spk_0 So the most recent years we're talking about the sand-based system of volcanic...

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 That's like the east of the Grand Canyon kind of, but it's by Flagstaff, right?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Now it's just right.

spk_0 Flagstaff is in the field.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 So for reference, I have a basalt sample.

spk_0 And there's lots of olivine phenocrystinate.

spk_0 But I got it from the...

spk_0 I think it's called the Oak Creek Fault on 89 South going to Sedona.

spk_0

spk_0 You can see it.

spk_0 You take 89 South and you...

spk_0 It may be 89A or whatever.

spk_0 But the freaking valley just opens up.

spk_0 It's tight.

spk_0 And then you're seeing all these sandstones.

spk_0 And then there's a freaking...

spk_0 I know. Carly's like Brian.

spk_0 Can you talk less?

spk_0 Anyways.

spk_0 But then you see the basalts up top of all the red sandstones.

spk_0 You see this dark black gray.

spk_0 And it's all faulted.

spk_0 It's like what the fuck are acting as a protective cap?

spk_0 So as the ball came out of the way and it's so easy to roll that colorful red white sandstone.

spk_0 It's gorgeous.

spk_0 No, you're right.

spk_0 But so I do want to tell people if you're ever in Arizona near Flagstaff, everyone seems to go there.

spk_0 And it's a nice town.

spk_0 But take that road because you're like literally I'm driving in like I did the quintessential like...

spk_0 Like pulled off.

spk_0 I can see the fault.

spk_0 I saw the basalts and I was like I'm fucking getting a sample.

spk_0 And there was construction but I didn't care.

spk_0 And I pulled off and probably caused a mess.

spk_0 I don't care.

spk_0 That's how many we found them.

spk_0 I'll send you chords.

spk_0 So the last eruption in the San Francisco field was less than I think less than a thousand years ago.

spk_0 And that's that sunset crater which was a huge part of a huge fish erosion.

spk_0 So you can go there.

spk_0 You can see the basalt flows.

spk_0 The cojole is still glassy.

spk_0 Oh wow, really?

spk_0 The viscosity.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Wow.

spk_0 The outer most millimeter of the flow loads are still glassy.

spk_0 So you can see the flow structure.

spk_0 You can see where archery, congealed lava, glee, stuff through this.

spk_0 Pretty wild.

spk_0 Can you see that from Ariel?

spk_0 Like is it black?

spk_0 Because I've seen stuff in New Mexico and I'm like there's fucking new basalt there.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Yeah, go to sunset crater and Google Maps or whatever.

spk_0 You'll see it.

spk_0 It looks like hell.

spk_0 Sunset crater.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Very cool.

spk_0 So within that range because there's a really big volcano there, but then there's a ton of these little cones, right?

spk_0 Yeah, they get their tops blown off.

spk_0 But there's one that's aptly named that I want to let you introduce.

spk_0 So there is this particular about 900 foot tall, conical shape.

spk_0 Well did glue to make.

spk_0 So now what glue to make is sort of you know, it contrasts with all the cones around it.

spk_0 Most of the cones there are very eroded because it's just loose fender.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And you know, rained on for the past 70,000 years.

spk_0 But this guy is holding up because it speared a hotter, shatter wad that collected around the rim and they were still molten when they landed.

spk_0 So in a particular cone, it retains its original shape.

spk_0 It's much harder to erode.

spk_0 It was named the shit pot.

spk_0 After this wild west rancher, one of the first well, you know, the first western murderer who stole land, whatever you want to call it, went in there, ranch cattle, and he had this thing on his property.

spk_0 He thought it just looked like a chamber pot that had spilled over because there's a large, uh, flow that extends, you know, a couple miles to the north outside of it.

spk_0 So he said, yeah, it looks like a shit pot.

spk_0 So the shit pot is a welded, a glutinant, uh, well, you know, composed of basaltic and a little more silica than just a fault.

spk_0 And the enigma to it is the flow issuing forth from the shit pot to the north has a slightly different composition.

spk_0 I think it's a little more mafic.

spk_0 If I remember, it could be wrong about that.

spk_0 I would expect it to be, maybe you like, maybe I might have that backwards.

spk_0 I might have that backwards.

spk_0 It might be more solicit.

spk_0 Yeah, like more of a day site in the site.

spk_0 But, you know, they don't know if it's a flank eruption or an eruption that was subsequently, you know, buried over by further cone development.

spk_0 Yeah, I like the little bit.

spk_0 Well, I like the descriptor of the shit pot having a spattery basaltic and decide like for the better than the battered.

spk_0 Yeah, yeah, right.

spk_0 I usually get and decide and say usually on an active margin kind of thing.

spk_0 But that's why Arizona is so.

spk_0 Yeah, well, you know, it's moving up through all, you know, look at the grand canyon, moving up to all of that.

spk_0 Yeah, I was thinking, when, when, what, you know, yeah, was this like 70,000 years old?

spk_0 That's what it's called.

spk_0 This particular one is about 70 K based on potassium.

spk_0 Yeah, which is, yeah, there's some, there's some problems with that because there's like apparently there's an abundance of argon.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 So you, you can then do, I'm sure they have done it and we just have to look it up, right?

spk_0 But it's like you do potassium argon, but then you do the argon argon to get.

spk_0 Arr.

spk_0 So yeah, that's, I love the volcanism there and it's really cool.

spk_0 Like we have that sample here on the, on the table.

spk_0 One of the most striking pictures that you have, then I, I guess I recently saw, it's, it's a magmatite and then there's some like relic lava flows.

spk_0 What do you say?

spk_0 Relic.

spk_0 Okay, relic.

spk_0 It's what I say relish.

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 Oh, something's like real, real, real dicked.

spk_0 Before we dive into that particular outcrop, let's, let's talk about magmatites a little bit because they're weird, right?

spk_0 I've confused them with nice, nice, like rocks.

spk_0 Nice.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And anyone that's not just a fucking pro magmatite petrologist would not maybe get it.

spk_0 So they're beautiful rocks.

spk_0 They have properties of both igneous and metamorphic rocks.

spk_0 They were first named by Jacob Johan Sederlom of Health Sinky Finland in 1907.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 The patrologist, they worked for the geological society of China.

spk_0 I've never heard of the geological society.

spk_0 Yeah, we're tied literally names mixed rock in blue.

spk_0 Whoa.

spk_0 In the group.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So, side note, good old Sederlom was responsible for the names and studies of other geological oddities.

spk_0 These names, which I will now butcher, such as John Tien, set away.

spk_0 Jotnian, Jotnian.

spk_0 Um.

spk_0

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Mermikites.

spk_0 And the famous Rapa Kiwi.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Good.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 Which some have been dated back to the late Arcan.

spk_0 Wow.

spk_0 Mermikites are those weird, were me.

spk_0 Like they definitely look weird.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 Where the courts, their inner growth into usually a sodic plagio clays.

spk_0 So like albiet or illegal clays.

spk_0 And then they're usually associated with tectonic deformation.

spk_0 They're not the same thing as that the macmatic inner growth textures like ingranapherec rocks.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So, the Mermikites in Arizona are typically associated with the formations of the Yavapai and the Maratzal originic belts.

spk_0 Which are the what?

spk_0 The Maratzal.

spk_0 The Maratzal originic belts were at the mobile, the mobile mountain belts, which were formed during the process.

spk_0 The Proterozoic era between 1.8 and 1.4 billion with a bee years ago.

spk_0 And these belts were formed during the process of subduction in which one tectonic plate is forced beneath another.

spk_0 Not to insult anybody's intelligence, but this causes an intense amount of pressure that leads to the formation of these metamorphic rocks.

spk_0 And then the Mermikites here have an almost, would you say extreme, nice, agbanding texture?

spk_0 They sure look like that.

spk_0 So, there's these Lucasome layers, Lucas thematic layers of quartz, feltsbar, and then you have other light-colored minerals like muskivite.

spk_0

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And Luka.

spk_0 Lucasome.

spk_0

spk_0 Lucasome.

spk_0 Lucasome is just a fancy way to describe light-colored layers.

spk_0 But then these layers alternate with darker melanosomic layers that have minerals.

spk_0 Yeah, that one he said, that have minerals such as biotite and various amphiboles.

spk_0 Amphiboles, like corn blend, I can say that.

spk_0 Probably some pyroxines depending on what the parent rock is.

spk_0 Mermikites, they can be, for me, tricky to interpret in the field because I would say, oh, that's a folded nice, because I'm a dumbass.

spk_0 But actually, the Luka-cratic minerals, they have igneous textures, which means they have formed in a multiple,

spk_0 from molten magma, right?

spk_0 Mermikites.

spk_0 So that has been melted in that sense.

spk_0 And the Mafic minerals, so you have the alternate melanosomic layers, they have metamorphic textures.

spk_0 So James, Ken, Carly, how do we make sense of this?

spk_0 Why are the textures differentiated between the light and dark bands in these rocks?

spk_0 Oh, gee, maybe it has something to do with the melting point of the rock.

spk_0 I would think so.

spk_0 Maybe we could talk about that.

spk_0 We could talk about how these things form.

spk_0 Yeah, I know all about this. Don't worry, guys.

spk_0 So they are formed by anatexes.

spk_0 Oh, anatexes.

spk_0 I love anatexes.

spk_0 And it's a character.

spk_0 Oh, my God.

spk_0 Anatexes.

spk_0 We have a new character.

spk_0 I could be anatexes.

spk_0 You could be.

spk_0 Thank God.

spk_0 Or in simpler terms.

spk_0 I'm patina.

spk_0 And I'm anatexes.

spk_0 I'm anatexes, y'all.

spk_0 I'm patina.

spk_0 You sound so real.

spk_0 Oh, I'm from the south.

spk_0 I'll have you know.

spk_0 Well, we're going to talk about how the, like, we're going to talk about the 13th and it's

spk_0 like southern, how you like, Georgia, and it is a slow down version of a British accent.

spk_0 So if you speed up their accent, it turns into a British accent.

spk_0 Yeah, you're right.

spk_0 And we're not here nor there.

spk_0 Anyway, so in simpler terms, it's just partial melting of igneous rocks.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 And so Brian put in a note saying, hey, write something about this.

spk_0 So I'm going to, I'm going to put on my, uh, my professor, a glasses.

spk_0 I hope you've got bowens.

spk_0 So basically what we got here is the, the temperature and solidis and liquidis and formation

spk_0 for mineral species are in more factors that determine the conditions required for anatexes

spk_0 to occur and the composition of the resulting magma.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 So anatexes is the process by which the rocks are partially or completely melted to form

spk_0 magma.

spk_0 So the temperature and liquidis and solidis information for mineral species can be the,

spk_0 can be relevant to anatexes because of the temperature at which a rock begins to melt,

spk_0 i.e. the solidis temperature.

spk_0 And that is dependent on the minerals, um, present in the rock and the melting points.

spk_0 So for example, if a rock contains a lot of quartz, which has a high solidis, solidis,

spk_0 temperature, um, of about 400 to 650 degrees Celsius, the rock will require high temperatures

spk_0 to start melting.

spk_0 On the other hand, um, if rocks contain a lot of ampable, which has lower solidis temperatures

spk_0 of 708 degrees Celsius, it will begin to melt at lower temperatures like ductal quartz.

spk_0 That is a, ductal quartz is ductal at what?

spk_0 750.

spk_0 I think my wording was confusing.

spk_0 No, I, I mean, because lower temperatures, I associate 460 and higher temperatures are

spk_0 700, 800 solidis.

spk_0 But I think what this solidis temperature is crystallization.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 Okay, so it's opposite.

spk_0 Okay, so then furthermore, the liquidis temperature of the mineral species present and

spk_0 the rock also plays a role in anatexes.

spk_0 Hi, you know, hey.

spk_0 Um, so liquidis temperature is the temperature at which the mineral begins to melt completely

spk_0 and the rock starts to become more homogenous in composition.

spk_0 So if the temperature of the rock continues to increase beyond the liquidis temperature,

spk_0 the rock will melt completely in form magma.

spk_0 Um, so not sure if that relates, but Brian asked me to insert some information about

spk_0 this.

spk_0 So, right.

spk_0 So quartz liquidis temperature, 17, 13 degrees Celsius in the slotted solidis temperature,

spk_0 400, 600 degrees Celsius, whereas pyroxenes, 12 or 13, 15C and 800,000 C. So, respectively.

spk_0 Well done.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So that was a, I don't know how that relates to anything.

spk_0 No, it does because that explains what we're seeing, right?

spk_0 So, the more mafic minerals don't melt at these temperatures that these like the, your,

spk_0 your felsic feldspars, like your sodium rich and your potassium rich feldspars.

spk_0 Okay, but you, when you say, okay, felsic, right?

spk_0 Yeah, you didn't say mafic.

spk_0 So your felsic minerals are going to melt at a lower temperature.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Like your quartz, your muskivites.

spk_0 No, in your case.

spk_0 What?

spk_0 I'm just not, not KK.

spk_0 Not KK.

spk_0 So, potassium.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So, anything like that is going to melt at a lower temperature.

spk_0 You're, you're more mafic, you're iron and your magnesium rich minerals, like pyroxenes

spk_0 and your biointite and your infoboles.

spk_0 Infoboles.

spk_0 Some infoboles are going to melt at a higher temperature.

spk_0 And so you have these bands that are completely malt.

spk_0 I don't know.

spk_0 Can't maybe help me out, but I think of these as like, there's minerals that have formed

spk_0 only during complete melting of that particular, like that melting point.

spk_0 And then they re, they crystallize.

spk_0 But the mafic bands have then re crystallized possibly because they haven't fully melted.

spk_0 We don't have, maybe you don't reach a temperature of plus 1300 degrees centigrade.

spk_0 And so that's why you have this differentiation.

spk_0 You have the light colored black, the mafic bands.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 But yeah, you have that differentiation.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 I would say if anything, the darker, the mafic minerals are more, I mean, they're not solid.

spk_0 They're more like a tappy, you know.

spk_0 They're like plastic almost.

spk_0 They're plastic ductile, you know, they're able to accommodate, you know.

spk_0 Oh, yeah, you're right.

spk_0 Shifts and mass and you know, they're able to flex and then they're just.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 And that's why you see the metamorphic textures in those.

spk_0 So you see more foliation in that layer, but in the light color layers, you just see a crystalline.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So Ken, we, in these magma tites, we see like this nice, like banding, but it's not really

spk_0 nice.

spk_0 It's actually something else.

spk_0 And we see something, we see a lot of folds that are really weird.

spk_0 What's going on there?

spk_0 Tegmatic folding.

spk_0 So it contrasts a little bit to a magma tight because magma tight things are melting, things

spk_0 are ductile, but to form tegmatic folds, which are extremely tight, rounded, you know,

spk_0 they look like folded folds.

spk_0 It looks like they look like spaghetti.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 You drop a noodle along the floor and it's sort of warped over itself.

spk_0 A tegmatic fold is formed in an environment where everything is just sort of ductile.

spk_0 So probably in some of the later stages of deformation and happiness, what I would

spk_0 do.

spk_0 Yeah, I agree.

spk_0 And it tells a lot of history of the rockets and you have this boundary.

spk_0

spk_0 You might have just, I'm going to make this really simple.

spk_0 So you'll 100 meters away, 500 meters away, you might have a granitic pluton.

spk_0 And then you have this magma tight.

spk_0 And then you go, you know, a thousand meters away and you have a very well developed

spk_0 nice.

spk_0 It just, that's the gradation.

spk_0 I call it a gradation.

spk_0 I don't know if that's correct, but I just think of this great, maybe a gradient is a

spk_0 better way to say that.

spk_0 A gradient in heat flow across the basement.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 And that's the way I think of it.

spk_0 And I've missed it before, I'll be honest.

spk_0 I have looked at a rock that was a magma tight and I've called it a nice, a folded

spk_0 nice and it's not correct.

spk_0 For sure.

spk_0 I think that it comes down to the textures, which you can't really maybe see in the field

spk_0 you need to take a thin section and do the work.

spk_0 Well, I hate them most often.

spk_0 I think the most often and meta-terbidite.

spk_0 Yeah, because of that.

spk_0 Because of how they're differentiated in deposition.

spk_0 You've got the sandy stuff at the bottom.

spk_0 You've got the muddy stuff at the top.

spk_0 Muddy stuff, no, much faster and it deforms much faster.

spk_0 No, yeah.

spk_0 And meta-terbidite is just in general interesting AF.

spk_0 But I say that we invite you back for another episode soon to get into this in more detail.

spk_0 Well, we all, because we want to get into why Metallica sucks.

spk_0 And I feel like that we can't not talk about that.

spk_0 But I think we should talk about that.

spk_0 So what I'm doing is, it's why the geology that is there is there.

spk_0 So that's a full episode.

spk_0 But also we need to talk about faulty San Andreas and then the subsequent 14.

spk_0 So what if we brought on geologically speaking and you at the same time?

spk_0 At the same time.

spk_0 We could do that.

spk_0 I'll see you then.

spk_0 We could do that.

spk_0 We could set that up.

spk_0 And but I do want to do that freaking rock.

spk_0 Because we, James and I don't like Metallica and we want to talk about that.

spk_0 But we want to talk about thrashable too.

spk_0 And we don't want to rob our listeners of all of the fantastic geological knowledge that

spk_0 you have.

spk_0 We're going to do this then, Ken.

spk_0 One second.

spk_0 We're just going to do this.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 So this is our towards the end.

spk_0 We do it with that freaking rocks.

spk_0 And I noticed that you in there, and I'm not going to go into this long description that

spk_0 I talked about thrash metal.

spk_0 But I did see an important note in there that maybe you're not a fan of Metallica, eh?

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Well, a lot of us who were, look, Metallica, you were talking me 25 years ago.

spk_0 I would have never thought it would ever see.

spk_0 But Metallica fucking sucks.

spk_0 They betrayed their fans.

spk_0 They started suing their fans.

spk_0 They did.

spk_0 Let me tell you something.

spk_0 I bought that fucking master puppet album like five times because my tape deck ate the

spk_0 tape to thin.

spk_0 I remember what tape decks were, eh?

spk_0 I know I know I'm dating myself right now, but I date myself once a day.

spk_0 We had this evolution of thrash and Metallica was at the forefront of it.

spk_0 Okay.

spk_0 So you had the mid 80s.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 All these guys started coming out and playing with like really intensity rhythms and double

spk_0 bass drums.

spk_0 And you know, it was sort of the bellian thing.

spk_0 I used to walk down the street with my Metallica shirt on.

spk_0 She'd come up and go, hey man, you love slayer.

spk_0 But I'm like, yeah.

spk_0 Like do you love Satan?

spk_0

spk_0 I did.

spk_0 I had to do something.

spk_0 I was paying for a long time and I had to come back.

spk_0 Sorry.

spk_0 So you had the big four.

spk_0 You had the big four.

spk_0 You had Megadeth Metallica and Stratford players.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 Those were your quintessentials.

spk_0 Then you have the other guys.

spk_0 You have Mads and Badass, Death Metal bands like Cannibal Corps and all those nut job

spk_0 B.S.I.D.

spk_0 You know, is Metallica and Thrash Metal?

spk_0 It was.

spk_0 They were like the Godfather's.

spk_0 They went from practically inventing freshmen.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 They transitioned it from popular metal at the time.

spk_0 I remained.

spk_0 Due to priests, clothing, hook, those guys.

spk_0 They were just, they were just plain metal.

spk_0 They were great.

spk_0 They're awesome.

spk_0 Did you know there's metal?

spk_0 But Thrash Metal came out and started really introducing speed and action.

spk_0 And it was a little bit of attitude and you know, all new brand of.

spk_0 Like Blaspies.

spk_0 They're belly-ish.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So.

spk_0 Did you know there's, so you said, Clothing Huff, that is a, a distortion pedal that is now

spk_0 sold and it's like, it's, it rips.

spk_0 Is it terminus?

spk_0 Like the, I don't know.

spk_0 I, no, no, no, it's not terminus.

spk_0 I thought it was um, Electrohomonics.

spk_0 Maybe it's not.

spk_0 But they, it just rips.

spk_0 It's this nasty pedal.

spk_0 And so that's the boy's thought of, well, no, the rat, the rat pedal is a, that's the

spk_0 format for a lot of really heavy distortion pedals.

spk_0 And I think the Clothing Huff uses that.

spk_0 But I always thought Thrash was like, like just noise core stuff that I'm, I'm way off

spk_0 right now.

spk_0 Um, yeah.

spk_0 But wait, what about like boys in the hood area?

spk_0 I want to hear about that.

spk_0 All right.

spk_0 So almost overnight, my hometown went from Rift Chain, Metal Shirts, uh, Spice Rift

spk_0 End, and, and, and Chains in your pocket to, uh, Fila, Tommy Hill figure, but all that,

spk_0 all that baggy shit.

spk_0 And like the Metal Hat error just seems like it's fucking vanished.

spk_0 And there was only like a handful of, you know, die harder left.

spk_0 And then, top of that, Metallica started, you know, second, going after, going after

spk_0 their fans for the whole master thing.

spk_0 Oh my God.

spk_0 So Metallica, Metallica, like Thrash was already falling out of favor and Metallica hammered

spk_0 it, you know, the number one that changed the music.

spk_0 It's fine.

spk_0 You know, we want to make it to know the dollars who the hell to blame you.

spk_0 But when it started going after fans, it really is.

spk_0 Yeah, it's not going to go well.

spk_0 It was like the death note.

spk_0 Thrash.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 So should like the whole master thing.

spk_0

spk_0 Once Cliff Burton, their case is died.

spk_0 Uh, yeah, that's history.

spk_0 Pretty much feel that deal.

spk_0 It seems like it's almost as if Cliff was meeting and going.

spk_0 You never think that about a band member, like, right?

spk_0 Like someone behind the scenes that does a lot.

spk_0 And they, when they're gone, it's like, I think of weasers first two albums.

spk_0 They're bassist.

spk_0 Like, they're, they show completely different.

spk_0 They're from the green album and on.

spk_0 Green album on different bassist.

spk_0 Pinkerton forever.

spk_0 Pinkerton and blue album.

spk_0 Yeah, blue album is so good.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 But this is a little bit before that.

spk_0 This is a long bit of it.

spk_0 No, it's not.

spk_0 It's only 10 years.

spk_0 Well, like, so Thrash now.

spk_0 So what's Thrash look like now?

spk_0 Who can listen to like a threat?

spk_0 They can make us see.

spk_0 There are some modern, really fucking badass Thrash band going on.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Yes, who is title angels?

spk_0 They're out of Europe.

spk_0 Why do they have that?

spk_0 They have those attitude, you know, rift with the holding notes.

spk_0 And they're singing.

spk_0 You know, you got another one called Dust Bolt.

spk_0 They're freaking awesome.

spk_0 And you got these guys called Thrash or Wolf.

spk_0 And these guys have been around for a while.

spk_0 But I call them modern because it's, you know, post 90s.

spk_0 They have a lot of stuff.

spk_0 The bulk of their albums.

spk_0 And the post year 2005.

spk_0 And of course, there's a land of God.

spk_0 But they're more like group metal and Thrash.

spk_0 Right.

spk_0 They're still badass.

spk_0 They're like my favorite.

spk_0 Do you want to, I'm going to play just a second of Thrash or Wolf's 2022 March 18th.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 They, they debuted something.

spk_0 This is what it sounds like.

spk_0 Thrash metal.

spk_0 They are watching nothing because of crushing the street.

spk_0 But they don't dance in the world.

spk_0 The doctors and pastors and brothers will definitely be jumping in front.

spk_0 But you can see that.

spk_0 Dude, we're all making like orc faces.

spk_0 Oh, yes.

spk_0 Everyone else.

spk_0 That is awesome.

spk_0 But it's like high tempo.

spk_0 It's like the energy.

spk_0 It's high energy.

spk_0 Yeah, I like that.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Um, so something I would like to do if we have at that freaking rocks when we talk about

spk_0 music.

spk_0 I'd like to make a playlist of that particular episode.

spk_0 So maybe this episode is all fucking shit pot.

spk_0 Shit pot.

spk_0 That's the beard organ.

spk_0 Shit pot.

spk_0 Thrash.

spk_0 That's what it is.

spk_0 And so it can't like all invite you to it.

spk_0 Well, I'll invite all of you to the playlist and we make it and we get people in the listen

spk_0 to like what the everyone's in it.

spk_0 There it is.

spk_0 I was there is.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 That sounds like.

spk_0 Hammett.

spk_0 Like that's the Hammett style weed right there.

spk_0 Yeah, you can see the influence of early slayer early Metallica.

spk_0 Early Metallica for sure.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 That's right.

spk_0 The vocals are very slayer, right?

spk_0 Like, yeah.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Maybe later slayer.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 Very cool.

spk_0 Well, all right.

spk_0 Well, this is successful.

spk_0 This was this was great.

spk_0 We're going to seriously.

spk_0 No, we're going to have to do it again and do it soon.

spk_0 So let's get like if you're cool with having a co co co co host.

spk_0 But so we're going to have to do a follow up episode because we'll obviously see two short

spk_0 and two hours wasn't enough to cover it.

spk_0 What?

spk_0 Let's hear this one.

spk_0 This one's bad.

spk_0 That was not shocked.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 We would technology limits.

spk_0 Could end up talking like for another two hours, but then it's just a terrible edit for

spk_0 on my end.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 But we can definitely next time we'll talk about we actually I think the volcanism part

spk_0 is not we have not really discussed that.

spk_0 No, we do volcanisms and the fault faults like structural geology of the Arizona, but

spk_0 the San Andreas because you've filmed you've.

spk_0 You know guys, if you want to have me on as a recurring.

spk_0 Oh, no.

spk_0 Even if it's even if it's a short thing that we do, every other week.

spk_0 See there's some fucking fault facts.

spk_0 So there we go.

spk_0 The bad facts.

spk_0 He said he said it's not my fault.

spk_0 It's not my fault with Ken.

spk_0 Hey, that's not a bad idea.

spk_0 We just call you up.

spk_0 We need to know about this fault.

spk_0 Well, there's a little thing.

spk_0 But yeah.

spk_0 So I'm in not running out of time because it's rapidly.

spk_0 I'm talking like 30 seconds.

spk_0 So I'm just going to go ahead and do this like unfortunately.

spk_0 Be safe to what you love and fuck everybody else.

spk_0 Oh, while fucking everybody else.

spk_0 Fuck everyone.

spk_0 That wants you to fuck them.

spk_0 Yeah.

spk_0 No one else.

spk_0 Sex with them because sex is not dangerous.

spk_0 You're not a fuck people.

spk_0 They do not want you to fuck.

spk_0 Great time, guys.

spk_0 I'm sorry.

spk_0 But until next time, please wrap up.

spk_0 Until we want to remind you to be cool.

spk_0 Stay tuned and keep it on the rocks.

spk_0 Woo!

spk_0 We did it, guys.

spk_0 Oh, oh, oh.

spk_0 Oh, oh.

spk_0 You

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