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Caught Offside: Tendency to be Obnoxious
In this episode of Caught Offside, hosts Andrew Gondling and J.J. DeVaney dive into the latest football discussions, touching on player performances, team dynamics, and the challenges faced by Liverpo...
Caught Offside: Tendency to be Obnoxious
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היי, שואל בשביל חבר, נניח ויש לךבר סחום גדול השקיע,
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ונניח שהוא רוצה לגוף את שמאי לחלוטין,
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שהיא נושאה אחרי אהפח עברת ביטוח,
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כי זה חשוב לחבר, שהאינטרסים שלא בהדיפות הראשונה.
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ומה היא מורוצה לבואי ממומכים פיננסיים ואובייקטיביות,
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הוא שקיפות מלאה?
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אז אני הייתי מבליצו על קבוצת קלי.
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קלי מובילה את חומי השקעות,
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הפן סיבה ביטוח כבר 55 שנה,
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באופן עצמאי הוא ולתיתלוי.
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בקיצור, תמליצו להחבר לחפש את קבוצת קלי.
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או, להתקשר, כוכבית, 90 ו1, 40 וחמש.
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או, yes, hot off side,
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from this outside of New York City,
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from the apartment in Brooklyn, New York,
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Andrew Gondling, J.J. DeVaney.
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וכך שקיפות מלאה.
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או, maybe it's good that you missed it.
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ראש, או, מי,
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the reaction,
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like, you know,
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and you're so loud,
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when you're watching,
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yeah, yeah, almost a gutterall.
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איזה, it's a different fullback pairing every week right now whether it's different pung is heard.
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Bradley, we're going to pull Kirk Kez out Robertson back in it's just.
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I feel like there's something to those spots that were so settled for so long being so unsettled now with new faces that are betting in and not sure of.
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What their their capabilities are yet and.
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I was reading Jonathan Wilson who talked about.
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You know, try not to enter our old maybe it was because Liverpool fans had kind of maybe they you know in some ways made peace with him leaving.
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So it was more anger than like like it was almost like well then get on out of here.
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We don't need you.
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We saw his back van Dykes back.
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We just won the league.
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Go on then think you think life will be so much better around Madrid.
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It was almost like if you don't want to be here then get the hell out of here.
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Yeah.
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But but like now that the dust is settled of all that with all that.
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And again, I know his defensive issues, but Jonathan Wilson's writing out like so much of what Salah does well.
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Could happen because Trent would ping a ball from 40 yards to him and immediately Liverpool were like on a counter attack in a situation where there wasn't really supposed to be a counter attack and Salah's in space and it's one V one and he kills guys like that.
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And that doesn't happen now.
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Now they kind of have to build up more from back to front.
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You don't have a player like Trent Alexander Arnold who can just create an attack out of nothing.
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So it's just a lot.
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There's a lot of there's a lot of change.
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It hasn't you know sometimes players come in and it's immediate.
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Sometimes it's not and Liverpool with the exception of a Cateke who I think actually has for the most part hit the ground running.
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None of the other ones really have.
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And that's not to say that they won't.
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I think Vertz is a concern.
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The fullbacks are a concern.
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Esak didn't play in the offseason.
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So I think he's still working his way back.
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I think he'll be fine.
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And I have a trust in him.
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I just take a minute to get.
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I've yeah.
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And after the Crystal Palace game up to up to Joe tweeted out this was a Crystal Palace or maybe it was Galatasaray 21.
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Most chances created for Premier League clubs in all competitions this season.
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It must have been after Galatasaray.
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So we will there's there's six.
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There's five players who are on 16 chances created.
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And then there's Bruno Fernandez 17 chances.
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Brian and William 18 chances.
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Amazing.
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Jack Relish 21 chances.
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Florian Vertz 21 chances.
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Really?
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Yep.
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Florian Vertz.
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That that is that is why I remember it's so few of them.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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I mean, I can I can remember like the mist sitter that he had.
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It's a sitter for a player of his quality against Crystal Palace.
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And it was a really good say from Henderson, but like that belies what you're seeing with your eyes.
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But then again, there are there are moments where you're like, is this as much as what's going on around him as it's him not settling in.
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No, I do believe someone someone actually got in the DM's destroy him like you just because of his, you know, zero assist and goals.
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Destroy him like you destroy every other player.
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I mean, I literally started.
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I started the season talking about Bruno Fernandez.
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And how last season he would have had stats that were just absolutely off the charts if someone could have scored, but they couldn't.
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And he's back in the same position again.
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Like this is Bruno Fernandez and Brian and Boimo of man of this Manchester United.
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Now I know the beat's under the weekend, but come on now.
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So like that, that stack can can tell you a lot and also tell you nothing.
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Because I do think he's been deficient in so many areas.
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Um, I have one question for you before we get to the Chelsea side.
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Cause I mentioned the signings.
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Let's just play a game here.
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All right.
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This is going to be biggest flop or no, no, no, no.
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Oh, no, I mean, you could look at it that way, but no, I'm just looking for a window into how you view these guys and what they're.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Where their capabilities are.
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So of these Liverpool signies who have yet to really switch on.
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So I would say all but Ekateeke.
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I think taking Ekateeke out of us.
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If I could snap my fingers right now and suddenly get one of them to start playing at the level that you expect.
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Who would that be?
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Oh, Florian Vertz.
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Really more than ESEC.
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Uh, I think the two will be linked.
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I think I think a fully functioning in Vertz could could just send send ESEC into.
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Okay.
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Into orbit.
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Yeah.
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To go down to.
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I'd like for for more salads to kind of find some way of being comfortable in this new look team.
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I would love that.
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But he is.
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Look, decline is coming.
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We know that much.
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And the record busting amazing season he had last season was reason to to renew the contract.
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But he kind of did his late season fall off a bit last season as well.
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And so you wonder if that that was part of the start of the decline or just a regular thing that he can be prone to doing.
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And he has a couple of nations coming, right?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Which I remember a couple years ago was that was almost like a lot of demarcation in his season.
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Right.
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Thing is he needs to figure it out before that.
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Yeah.
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Like, um, he needs it to be a scenario where Liverpool are like,
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and Salah was just was really rounding into form there.
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And now he's gone.
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This is a big blow because right now he wouldn't feel like that.
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But on the on the other hand as well, Salah is a man of of of of the money of the status and of the previous season.
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That is clearly for slot.
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Something that has to be managed.
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He cannot like.
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It's a lot dropping him for the Champions League was was was significant.
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But Salah clearly hedged his bets.
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He's like, I'm going to drop this guy somewhere where will I do it?
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And if I do it in Europe away to Galatasaray, I can make up excuses.
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I cannot for like a Marquis Premier League game, the game of the weekend against Chelsea.
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Yeah, I'm okay with him putting Salah on the bench for Galatasaray in the Champions League when you've got Chelsea coming up over the weekend.
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And I think you have to pick and choose a little bit of prioritize these games.
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I think Chelsea is.
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It's a better game.
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Yeah.
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And like slots in the unique position that the club wasn't in like.
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He has to kind of he has to kind of manage this.
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No, like if if if if Salah's not fitting into what he wants to do.
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Then in an ordinary if he was an ordinary player, he would be out.
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But he's kind of dropped words for the big game, brought him in then quickly.
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Like I don't I don't fully.
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I don't fully believe that slot knows his best 11 as well.
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There's just this.
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And the Irishman the richest, but whatever it is, you wouldn't say right now.
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More Salah's in it.
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But he has to but he has to be because of who because who.
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But like who okay, he.
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Well, who are you playing instead?
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Who is in the who would fill that spot if he's not in your preferred 11?
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You'd you might change things up in terms of like
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the formation, maybe a Keaza.
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No, you would you could have a Kiteke in there.
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You could have him.
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If you wanted to stick with what you have right now and make sure that you have that kind of
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of focal with the three in behind, you could have a Kiteke and him and and
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Gakpo and them swapping wings.
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Oh, Gakpo for me is not doing enough to be to be in there either.
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If you want to score goals, if you wanted to play.
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When was Gakpo's last goal?
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He just scored against Chelsea.
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Oh, yeah, he did. He did.
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Excuse me. Excuse me.
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I've I've I've been sucked into just thinking about that first touch and trying to discover
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whether I mean, I think EZAC was bringing it down for himself, but he brought it down perfectly.
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I mean, it looked nice.
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It was a yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Can we talk Chelsea for a minute?
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Sure.
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So this season obviously has been very weird for them and very up and down.
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The Colpomer injury that's that's a brutal blow.
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There's still maybe like basking someone in the glow of dismantling PSG,
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which no one can do in the club world cup.
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So it's just been a weird start.
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Maresca is he loved?
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Is he hated? I don't know.
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But I will say two things are standing out to me about Chelsea right now.
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First off, I mean, if they can stay in the hunt until Palmer gets back, I think that's huge.
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Just like this win for them is a this is a massive win that to be able to kind of stay within striking distance.
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I just think it's huge.
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We mentioned Kaisedo.
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He's having he's just having one of those seasons up to this point where he's he was already great.
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I got off to that slow start with Chelsea, but you know, he talked about Pocetino showing faith in him and giving him chances.
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And it's only gotten it's it's snowballed from there in the best possible way.
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And he's now leveling up and he I think he might be the best midfielder in the Premier League right now.
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I saw this from who scored.
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They posted no players one player the match in the Premier League the season more than Kaisedo.
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Gary Neville had this to say.
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He was the best player on the pitch by a mile.
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Forget the goal, which was absolutely incredible.
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His work around the pitch means he's two and one.
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It's kind of stuff we used to say about like in Golokante.
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It always felt like there was an extra player out there.
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He's everything and a brilliant midfielder player.
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He was the best player on the pitch by a mile.
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Liverpool had him. They would have won.
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He was that good.
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He's the best midfielder in the Premier League at this moment in time.
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I mean, he's he does everything for them at both ends.
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He's he's exactly what they envisioned that he would be when they when they went all in form and paid a huge sum.
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And he's he's living up to it.
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He's he's keeping them in this race right now while Cole Palmer can works his way back.
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And then the other thing I would say we haven't seen this guy a lot yet.
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But JJ, you know how I have my people, Andrews people.
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The Andrews people front office, they're sending.
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They're sending a delegation.
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They're sending scouts to Stanford Bridge.
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Esteva was on our watch list.
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Well, okay. Well, hang on a second.
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He's on the watch list.
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Well, okay. So Esteva is on the watch live just because he's such an exciting player.
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When he's out there, I'm just I'm drawn to him.
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The ball he played in to Enzo Fernandez was beautiful.
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Fernandez just kind of missed it.
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Hit off the post.
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Then, you know, obviously Esteva he scores the goal.
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I mean, he's we caught a glimpse of it.
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I'm not really watching the Brazilian League.
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I'm just I'm just not.
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But we caught a glimpse of of it in the club world cup.
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He saw what Chelsea saw.
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He scored.
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He looked the real deal.
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He's so young.
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He comes to Chelsea.
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Cameo appearances pretty much so far.
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But when he's out there, you're glued to him.
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He's exciting with the ball.
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He's he can play in a pass.
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He can finish.
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I have to sending a delegation.
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Okay.
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So first of all, I think he's he's genuinely,
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genuinely exciting.
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I think when I saw him enter the game and when I saw him,
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when I saw he would be on Robertson's side, I was like,
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whatever happens here, we cannot end up in a scenario where it's just them.
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1v1 in any kind of moment.
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No, I know it wasn't quite 1v1,
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but he had to do a lot to get in on that to finish that goal.
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That was not just your basic tap in and he don't brilliantly do that.
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So I'm with you on that.
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I would like to ask the animals though,
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I always thought with Andrew's people and asked if I could be one of Andrew's people.
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I always thought there was more to it than that.
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What do you mean?
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More than just being a good player and exciting.
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Yeah, there is another thing which I can't quite quantify.
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It's like almost like a niceness.
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He's a good guy kind of kind of quality because that's how Charlie Austin,
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Charlie Austin was the inaugural member of Andrew's people.
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Right.
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And so there was some kind of a stand named after him.
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Yeah, exactly.
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There's a statue in your park.
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And so I thought there was that kind of something.
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What are you saying?
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Estabelle's not cool.
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No, it's not a coolness.
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It's more warm.
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I just don't think we've seen enough of him for you to be able to just say,
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well, he's one of my guys.
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And we're sending a delegation.
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He's on a watch list.
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He hasn't made it yet.
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He's not on the team yet.
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By the way, watch list is too aggressive.
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You don't get someone has to fill as a spot radical, radical clerics get on watch.
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Watch list.
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I said after what as they did to Tottenham, he can't be on the team anymore.
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It's like when,
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when on scored for Korea against Italy,
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was it Sam Doria?
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Who was he playing for in the Italian?
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No, it wasn't even a really tops.
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It was a peruja.
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Oh, yeah, that's right.
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Off the team.
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You can't do this to us.
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You're off the and he was, he was gone.
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They got rid of him because of it.
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That's what happened to Eze with Andrews people.
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You're going to do this to Spurs.
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You're going to lead us on like that.
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You're going to, you're going to get a here we go from Fibritzio Romano
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and then go to Arsenal.
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You're off the team.
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So we're, we're sending out
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delegations, right.
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And Estabelle right now is, he's receiving one.
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This is almost like the process for
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beatification in the capital.
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Exactly. Exactly.
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Like you have just as important.
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You'll have a, well, yeah, you'll have a kind of a council
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as synod gets together and you all sit around and decide whether he can be one
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of Andrews people and you all wear purple.
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And then white smoke will go up through my white smoke will go.
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And can I just say I got a apologize to Gakpo, that's,
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because that sounds like I've an agenda against Gakpo.
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Which may or may not be true.
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No, you do find guys you target them.
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They can do no right or wrong depending on which side they fall.
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No, but I know the things that he does that have just been exposed.
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I just think he's the softest big Dutchman I've ever seen in my life.
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Like I just sometimes I'm like, God, I just got a muscle there.
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I think there's more.
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I actually, I believe in him so much that's, oh, my God.
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But that was wrong on me to actually forget he scored.
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That was pretty bad.
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Because that's literally given me all the credit,
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they're all giving all the credit to a guy that didn't score in Alexander.
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He's like, yeah, anyway, this game was
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how about that Mareska celebration?
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And this was a huge game for Chelsea.
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You could tell and he, but that's that's why I don't know if Chelsea,
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like I'm a doubts about the manager long term.
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I mean, that's not a, that's not an amazing statement to say about a Chelsea manager.
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But I don't know if Dale hit the consistency needed to be a really serious side.
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And like that seems like a mad thing to say after beating the champions.
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But I'd say plenty of Chelsea fans would say that themselves.
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They're not, they're, they're, they haven't hit that level of consistency.
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I think they're a better, they're, they are just a marketing better,
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more potent side when, when cold pymers in it and firing and on form and
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Mareska, I'm not sure about I don't know.
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But you're not alone in that.
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No.
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JJ, I said before Liverpool dropped a second.
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That is because Arsenal defeated West Ham as you would expect to know.
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And they are now top.
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Amazing.
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And there's a few bookmakers I've seen today where they are the,
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the, they are now installed as the title favorites.
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And quite a few pundits agree with that too.
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They feel as if they're, they're
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unbelievably stingy defense.
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Now, I know it was West Ham, but Arsenal's defense is so stingy.
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That, that definitely helps things and also the depth they've added in their attack.
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Now, which, they're going to need point being is Andrew.
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They, they look in a really good spot.
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And I wouldn't, I don't know, I was worried about them.
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The trip to all Trafford and the trip to Anfield made me think this guy is not
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going to let them off the leash.
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But they look.
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If they're your favorites, I get it.
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I'll put it that way.
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Uh, yeah, yeah, I would agree with that.
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I mean, they're pretty.
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I think this is the most complete version of them that we've seen in the Artega era.
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Obviously health will matter.
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Otergaard cannot stay healthy.
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It's unfortunate. I mean, in this game, you know, even before he left,
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you can see what he does.
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Like he slid in those two passes.
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They're almost two identical chances.
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Yeah, right side where he just kind of slides in the attacker.
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It's, he's got great vision.
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He's an, he's an actor. He's a great player.
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So they're going to have to withstand that.
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But this is why they spent the way that they did.
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This is why they went out because they, they've dealt with these injuries in the past.
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And they haven't had the depth to sustain it.
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Now they do what we've said that they.
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There's no, there's no one injury.
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I think that could submarine their chances the way we've seen in the past.
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Obviously there are certain ones that are more important than others.
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You know, Bukhaya Sakha, I think is a good enough player where he can carry them.
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If you lose him, then it's maybe the conversation changes.
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But no, I mean, the, the additions they've made, those players, a lot of them,
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Yorker, not quite maybe just yet, but a lot of those players seem like they're
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slotting in pretty quickly.
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Yeah, I think, I think ours, they're in like the pressures up, the pressures on them now.
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Like they're in first, like you said, bookmakers are, are tabbing them to be able to do this.
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This is a position that they're not usually in.
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They're usually the chase or not the chase.
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B.C., it'll be interesting to see how they handle this with Liverpool scuffling,
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the way that they are.
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We'll see what our tetra does.
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Declan Rice is an unbelievable form as well.
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Fantastic.
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Very, very dignified, non celebration.
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So can I ask you about that?
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Yeah.
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So if you
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is this a good analogy, I'm going to go with it.
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If you came on the podcast and you had a plucked turkey on your head,
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and I never mentioned it, I'm kind of,
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I'm actually adding to it.
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Do you know what I mean?
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The fact that I don't address it right there kind of creates something.
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I saw, because you you flagged it for me, I didn't really pay attention at first,
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because I thought it was just, oh God, that's a good finish.
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That's a nice finish.
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He, the West Ham fans are tucked in that corner.
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Right, that's where the away fans are at the goal that he scored there.
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As you watch, John TV in the left hand corner, as you're attacking the goal, right?
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He runs over.
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But he goes, I don't know what that was.
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A hundred percent, right?
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You know, and he does a weird little jog and kind of looks over towards them.
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But he doesn't do that.
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He didn't do the hand kind of, I'm sorry, I'm sorry that it is against the Republic of Ireland last almost a year ago.
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Remember that.
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Yeah.
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That's what I brought this up.
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I put it this on the road because I thought it would kind of be.
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So any jugs around the back of the goal,
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jugging around the back of the goal is always like usually a celebration celebration.
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Did this felt like I've been getting dogs from you, absolute dogs abuse from you.
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I'm going to be classy, but be very classy in an obvious kind of way.
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I mean, so if I was ignoring the turkey on your head, that's a very obvious thing.
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It's clear I'm doing it on purpose, the ignoring.
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And in the not doing of this celebration, it's so not doing.
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He's actually doing something.
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Um, like the way to not celebrate would have been the minute that ball hits the net,
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jog back to the halfway.
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That's not celebrating.
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This was so you even noticed the jog.
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I'll be honest, I need the non, it's time for the non celebration to evolve in some way.
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Go on.
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Yeah.
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And I don't, I don't know exactly what that is, but I need the, I need a new version of it because I've now become almost
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a little annoyed by it.
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Like,
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it's okay to smile hug your team for your celebration.
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Just don't be an ass.
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Don't, yeah, don't be out of the by or right.
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Exactly.
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Um, you know, like I think just treat it like a normal goal.
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You don't need to go slide into the corner, but like smile and hug your teammates and run back to the top.
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So that can be the next evolution of the, because I feel like what we have now almost feels,
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what's the word I'm looking for?
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It almost feels disingenuous now.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, I don't mean to be taking this out on him.
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I'm just, it's just like he's doing what he thinks he's, this is what I'm supposed to do.
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I've scored against my former team.
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I have to now do this thing.
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Yeah.
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I just need, I don't know.
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I feel like there's a middle ground here that we can find and we could all be okay with it.
spk_0
Maybe this is it though, because think of the non celebration celebration against,
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against Ireland.
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That was very right, you know, to the advertising,
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hooring hands in the air like, please, please, please, please, we jumped the shark when lampard basically
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when he basically cried on the field after scoring against Chelsea for
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in like a one-month draw as well.
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I think had no bearing on anything if I was devastated.
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Oh, yeah.
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But rice is that's a development for me.
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So there was no hands.
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There was no like almost, forgive me.
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Forgive me.
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I'm not, you know, I'm sorry.
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I just scored that great goal.
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There was none of that.
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There was a, this was, this was weird.
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This was, I found it very odd.
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It's definitely like, it's definitely in its own way a little bit.
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Having a tone.
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Oh, yeah, definitely.
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I don't know.
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There's no need to go around the back of the goal.
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There's no need to do that.
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Do you think
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look, there's still so much season left.
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I can't sit here.
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It's October 6th.
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I can't sit here and say an arsenal will not relinquish this spot again.
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But there's a world in which they don't.
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There's a world in which they don't.
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And I don't know if we have that kind of title raises.
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We're used in the, in the era of pet and clop.
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We've gotten very and and Liverpool last year too.
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We've gotten very used to this idea of
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our title winner isn't going to lose this year.
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Like I'm exaggerating, not invincible.
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I think they'll have draws.
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I think they'll have.
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I wonder if this, if we could have a fun semi-flawed title race
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where everyone's a bit flawed.
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I mean, I also made a...
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We may not have a 90 point winner this year.
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You could still be, I mean, you could still have 87 points of being credible.
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But like, could we have like an 84 point winning team this year?
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82 point winner.
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Something like that.
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Possibly.
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Yeah.
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We have to, we have to really find out.
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We know Liverpool are in trouble that we can't see an immediate way.
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There's no obvious way out for this except that, oh, play better.
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Everyone starts clicking and playing.
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You know what I mean?
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But with city, they're the ones we need to kind of drill into a little bit.
spk_0
Okay, so they beat Brentford, but it wasn't an unbelievable performance.
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Right.
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We have to see what they are.
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I think we need to shake it out.
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And also like Tottenham.
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Well, hanging or hanging or hanging around like they're like loitering with and they're there.
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Like if they were a bunch of teenagers, the cops would go, listen, guys,
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get away from the front of that.
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Just get away from here.
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You have no reason to be here, which you're loitering.
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And you've spacked them on the ground.
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Don't make me write it to take it.
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Get away. Come on.
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Come on.
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They are loitering.
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Right.
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But eventually they'll stop loitering.
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Loiterers kicked out.
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They'll get home and they'll end up in their bedroom.
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I'm using the teenage analogy with a copy of Playbook.
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And they'll be talking to their buddies about you.
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Believe the way that cop talked to us.
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Yeah.
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Let's go back there.
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No, no, no, no, we can't go back.
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It's not we're not going back there.
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Yeah.
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I'm going home to masturbate.
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Let's go ahead.
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J.J. will take a break on the other side.
spk_0
You wanted to do a fun exercise here called I fear for him.
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Yeah.
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Of course, a common common refrain on this show.
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Don't go anywhere because we'll explain what that is when we come back.
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More caught offside.
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ку הבחה серobiות Triposimuris.
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הוא manager says Hunter.
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ברוות ביתור זה או מה חי 2020
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יש כבר על הדרךי
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הלילalities
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באה את מדי שיהיה של כמה ק authoritarian
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まず, על התיאוריהpower.
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זה באירובחáng מתודם לבתל כך ולבלגע על 좋은 Ple last.
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מה אני פשוט בעבר, ברני שאתה כ redemption
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ועוד באלנט result
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זה
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One one argument is this didn't need fixing
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Like you said, this is a good see a good side from last season
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It can't be this bad. Bernie Roni says
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Angeposticoglu has now lost 30 of his last 49 Premier League games
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With two pretty good groups of players
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It's just the world we live in now, sadly
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Like
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That is Starrachmann
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And you can say, look
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He got spurs the Europa League
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How did he get them that?
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He had to pretty much change the way he played in the league
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Because it wasn't happening
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So this is this is dire for him
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I'm jumping I'm going with the fear for him as well
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I would say one thing
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And this is the one thing it's a
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And I know I bored people last season with this stat but this stat is true
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Notting a farest last season were outperforming their expected points
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By a larger margin than Leicester did when they won the league
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That was going into the final quarter of the season
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To good point
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This was always going to regress somewhat
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The problem is
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It's not
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Noo
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That's going to take you to like 10th, 11th, 12th or 9th or 8th
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You're saying the regression here could be frightening
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Yes
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Because you are putting Angeposticoglu in
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You're not giving them a preseason
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You're not giving them a chance to buy his own players to play in the system
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It's a totally different way of playing than Noo played
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Who thought this would work?
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And the final point I'll make because I don't have answers to this
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Like this feels like a
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a marinakis appointment
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This is a marinakis appointment
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Where is Edu in this?
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Why do you sign
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Arsenal's the guy who was pretty much in lockstep with Arteta
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And turn in that ship around
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And turn in them into title contenders
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How do you sign this guy who's your global head of football?
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And this kind of misstep in terms of coaching happens
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Because this isn't going to get better, I'm sorry
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I don't know if Angelo will see the end of October
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Never mind
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November
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I do fear for him
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Well he's got the two-week international break
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And then when they come back
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It doesn't get much easier
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Chelsea, Porto, Bournemouth
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Manchester United
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I do fear for him
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Yeah, I fear for him as well
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Next one JJ
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Yeah
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This one is absolutely fascinating
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Jude Bellingham with England
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The repulsive
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Or was it repugnant?
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I think it was repugnant
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As described by Thomas Tuchel's mother
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Jude Bellingham
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So this guy
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Who is
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I mean, we're not too
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I don't know what people think right now in this moment
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But we can all pretty much agree
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We're not too far removed from thinking he was
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Is the crown jewel of
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Whatever England are about to be for the next decade
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He's not been included in their October camp
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And
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All I can think of is
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Like
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We all lost our effin minds
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Here in the United States
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When like Western McKinney wasn't brought in September
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What is the equivalent
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For us like
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This is
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We're into October now
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Which we all demanded
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This like
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Absolutely must be taken seriously right now
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And they're not bringing Jude Bellingham in England
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We'd be freaking the F out here in the United States
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Here's what Tuchel said about it
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I've got the audio if you want to hear it
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Oh, yeah, sure
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Yeah
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For this camp we decided that we stick with our straight forward decision to invite the same team
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That applies also then for Jude
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He deserves always to be in camp
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I think there's an extra layer
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Or like there's on top of it
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The situation that he has not gathered fully rhythm yet
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At Ramadred
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He is back in the team
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He hasn't finished one full match
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Until now he has only started one match
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So he is at the moment
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In the period where he gets his rhythm
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Where he gets back to full strength
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There's an extra layer into decision
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But the decision stayed for this camp
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So I don't know if that's the whole of the quote that you have there Andrew
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That part was basically
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Tuchel kind of saying
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He began his comments by saying
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There's nothing personal
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I have nothing personal with Jude Bellingham
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For the Foden who is rounding into form
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Which I agree with, who is rounding into form
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I have no issues whatsoever
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And then kind of going on to say
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Jude is important
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Jude should always be in the camp with us
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But we decided to go with for the sake of continuity
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With the squad from the last time
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And Jude has not played
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Significant minutes to get rhythm
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Now
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Tuchel was also asked in another question
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Do you think England could win the World Cup
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Which is such a leading question
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Do you think England can win the World Cup without Jude Bellingham?
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That was the question
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And he said
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He gave a very considered answer
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I thought he said
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Are you seriously saying to me that
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If a injury happens to Jude Bellingham
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And he can't come with us to the World Cup
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What do we do?
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We cancel our flight, we don't go
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And he kind of said you have to be
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We have to have plans and ideas
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And things to cater for that eventuality
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What did the Daily Mail Twitter run with?
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Out of context
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Tuchel says England can win the World Cup without Jude Bellingham
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So that was all they took for that
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So there's
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I think I wonder what Tuchel here
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Like he's being, he's managed in England
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Like
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Does he not know what the English press are going to do with this
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And they pushed him on it
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Because of the comments he made
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Which was taken, he said it wasn't meant in the apologise for it
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About Jude Bellingham's behaviour
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And mentioning that his mother found it repugnant
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Repulsive
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Excuse me, I got it wrong
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Repulsive is kind of worse
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He also said
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Bellingham can intimidate
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Some of his teammates because of his manner
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Those things, the fact that those things were said
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No
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It feels like there's something here man
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I would listen even if it's not like he, even if there was a genuine thing about rhythm and minutes and all that stuff
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I'd still, I would have brought him anyway
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Just to avoid this
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Yeah, I would have too, I'll be honest
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So are we saying
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We fear for him?
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There's no way Jude Bellingham is missing the World Cup
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I can't, I don't fear for him ultimately
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I know, I don't fear for him for that
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I fear for too
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No, I don't fear
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I'm not going to go with the, I fear for them all the time
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But this is something worth monitoring, I think
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Oh, 100%
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Because there's, I don't know, it feels like there's, whatever we think the relationship is with Policic and Pocciatino
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This, this feels like that on steroids potentially
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But did you notice the
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Like, Tuchel didn't really get flustered
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I mean, I know he's got a better command of English than Pocciatino
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But he went through the reasons in the rationale
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Whereas when Jeff Kairlai, Larry, are, my God, one of our great friends of this pod
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I asked the question about Mousa
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Who else was it? Was it Mousa and Scali? He asked
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Yeah
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The indignity of the response from Pocci
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Unless you're talking about Pele or Maradana then
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Or Messi, yeah
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Or Messi, then I don't have to explain to you why they're not in the squad
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They're just, they're just guys
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Basically, kind of paraphrasing it, yeah
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That is, I thought that was, I thought that was absolutely outrageous
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How the hell is that question flustering you
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And Tuchel, Tuchel is credited, had a conversation with Belling him
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Right
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He's called him on the phone
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As far as we know, Pocci doesn't call the players to tell them he's not in
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Scali has confirmed before when he was left out of the goal cup
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He did not get a call
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Yeah
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So, anyway, that road
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Let's go to the next one, JJ
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So you might need to explain this next one to me
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Marco Silva, do you fear for him?
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Now, Fulham have suffered back-to-back three-one defeat, they're 14th in the league
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Yeah
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But the reason I say I might need you to explain it to me
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Kind of for, I guess for me, I'll give my reasons first as to why I don't fear for him
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So yes, they've lost three matches
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I don't think that's awful, Chelsea, Villa, Bournemouth
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Not sure many of those are bad
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Losses may be Villa a little but like no offense, but also your Fulham
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I don't know
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Like
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Yeah, they're going on a little bit of a carabell run here
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They're into the round of 16, they have Wickham next
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And also too, if you think about Fulham last year to Fulham this year
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The transfer window was a zero
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So they added Kevin
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That's such a weirdo
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They added Kevin
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And then they tried to sign Gavin
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Kevin was there 34.6 million pounds signing from Shakhtar
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He hasn't played more than 26 minutes in a league match yet
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Choukwezay, who they brought over from AC Milan on loan I think
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Supposed to be another quote-unquote big one, I don't know how big
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He's played 11 minutes, Vs Villa, and 24 minutes Vs Bournemouth
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And he did get an assist in that game
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But like, so their transfer window, any players they've added
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First of all, I don't know what the ceiling is for those guys in the first place
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But up to this point they have not added anything really
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Anthony Robinson, their best player last year
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In and out of the lineup so far with a knee injury
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I know this only just happened, but Rodrigo Muniz, Kenny Tete
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They're now out for a while, apparently, with injuries for each of them
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I don't know how much of this
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I like Marco Silva
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I think he's a good manager
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I think if Everton had to do it all over again
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Marco Silva would probably still be at Everton
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I don't blame him
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I also don't think that this has been like such a disastrously bad start to the season anyway
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So I don't fear for him, and if they were to do something here
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I've seen rumors that if Anges out at far as far as would pluck Silva
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And bring him there
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But I don't think Fulham would want that
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I think Fulham want to keep him
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And I don't see this, I'm going to need your explanation
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As to why you wanted him included
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I just think, well first of all, maybe I'm a prisoner of the moment in the back to back to feats
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You know, they go on a lot at Bournemouth in the 70th minute
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And then they absolutely collapse
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Now it's a brilliant goal by Anthony Semenio to get it to 1-1
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It's a really good strike from Cliveert
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And Bournemouth are a quality side
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But I just, the nature of that made me think a little bit about it
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Also I remember what you said at the start of the season about
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Like there wasn't really a ton of plethora signings made
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And for me with Silva, like what happened at Everton really
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Kind of just, it just kind of peered out
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And I'm not saying Everton were the perfect club for him but
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And I wonder just like
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Maybe it's a parting of the ways
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Maybe, maybe, like how far can Mark, like maybe Marko Silva's achieved all he can do with them
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We'll follow him now
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Where's the next step? I don't see it like
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And they've got some very nice players
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They're a grand team
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But to me he kind of caught a lot since the start of the season really
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And I know there's been some decisions that are really hurt him like the one at Chelsea
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Where the goal was ruled off
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And I mean that was probably a game changing incident
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And he's caught a kind of a frustrated figure on the sidelines
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But I just, I thought about it
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I looked at the two games
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The Villa one was a sickener
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And like they had the lead in both those games
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And yeah, I just wonder if there's a natural like
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Well, this is as far as I can actually take this crew
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Maybe it's not a fear for you
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But this is it kind of thing
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I don't know, it feels something like
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I don't know how much more Silva can actually do there
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All right, and then one more JJ
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Yeah
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And this one we've kind of touched on this already
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But if you want to go a little deeper here
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Most solos place as a regular starter for Liverpool, do you fear for him?
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I don't
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I have fears and I have fears about his form
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I have
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I
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My fears are kind of
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They're like
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They're the fears of decline
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In that sense I fear for him
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So I am going to say I fear for him
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I do fear for him
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But I like the way you put it is not how
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Where the fear is coming from
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I think he's
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It's very hard for Slot to take him over the side
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Remember that time at West Ham when Klopp and
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And Sala were going at it
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And I think he was bringing Sala on
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And they just got into it
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This is like and think of
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Of Klopp's position in the club
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Like Sala won't tolerate
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Very many more of what happened at Galatasaray
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He'll want to be given
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Because of his status
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All the time in the world to play himself into form
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And I'm wondering if Slot
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Maybe continues to try and rotate
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Is there like a breaking point here
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But I think generally
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It's hard for Sala now to kind of
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He has to start again and rebuild new partnerships
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You know, with ESAC, with the KTK, with
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With
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And remember how emotionally
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Was at Bournemouth, at Anfield after the Bournemouth game
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You know
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What happened with Jolda
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Where I don't know if we're given it enough
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And enough conversation
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You know, this was a club that spent
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It's preseason and complete in order morning
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And I wonder how much that's affecting him mentally as well
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So I fear from him in terms of like
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Being the Sala we've used to seeing
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Okay, yeah I mean with him I think
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A light has kind of been shine a little bit on
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He's not
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And he's never really been this but defensively
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Yeah, I think he's almost wonder a little bit J.J.
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If he's kind of entered the messy phase of his career
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I'm not really going to track back
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I'm not going to work as hard at some of those other things
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So I can give my all
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And the attacking end, which is what I'm here for
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And it's what I'm getting paid to do
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But you know, like when you're watching the Chelsea game
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You mentioned the one chance he had that was meek
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He had those two chances that he's skyd over the bar
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That you know usually Salah is least going to put those on goal on target
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You know, so if he's not
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If he's kind of going to go the messy route
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And not really defend
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And kind of walk a little bit more
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But you know, at least in an unless version of messy
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He's at least he's scoring goals every night
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Salah's not doing that quite as much right now either
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So it's kind of just shine this light on him
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Well, you know, what are what are we getting from him right now?
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So Danny Murphy said this at the BBC
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He said it's not as if Salah has changed his role this season
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But because he is not scoring at the other end
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Maybe the defensive side of his game is amplified
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I'm not actually too worried about his form
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Because he will come good
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He always does in terms of his finishing
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He got in some great positions against Chelsea
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But maybe shot when he should have passed
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And vice versa
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But those chances will keep going and the goals will come
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So more positive outlook
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In terms of my question
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If you fear firm in terms of will he start for live
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Will he be a regular starter?
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I don't fear for him
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He's in that 11
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He's not going anywhere
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All right, all right, there you go
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JJ, let's take one more break, come back
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A couple things on the other side here that we got to get to
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One MLS note, couple final, primarily things to touch on
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Still a little bit more code offside to go
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Don't go anywhere
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Elf
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Hey, someone with no idea
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I went into history and I thought to myself
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That there is a high degree of community
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Well should be funny but not only at the recognises
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And what is the solution where you take this counteroffice
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And significant sufficient target
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That is a great basis
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Really I wanted to get to Kali
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From my point of view you mentioned
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History had a decent version
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המשים וחמש שנה, בוופן עצמאי ובלתי תלוי.
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בקיצור, תמליצו להחבר לחפש את קבוצת קלי.
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או, להתקשר. כוכבית, תשאים ואחת, הרבהים וחמש.
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הוא, כבר עוד כותה, עוד פעמים נדעים.
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הוא פעמים שקדל כבר, כי שאני חושב, אז אני חושב,
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הוא פעמים כבר, הוא פעמים כבר, כן, אני אמרה.
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הוא ברוין으면서, והוא עוד נתערך מקטרייה.
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בוופן העצר מאוד, איך לכם שתיים של רוטוטית,
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הוא יב RAMSAY για כך תערבה אז אז מידים Swecture M14,
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כן, שאחר כך זה, ה poker, שתואלת구요 בדיוק,
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ב� restraintי שאתם, עשוט ושתאים חנע post-b Hospital,
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אז אניaddם הצלל כבוצת קלי,
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קלים עובילה את חומה השקעות, הפן סיבה בתוך כבר 55 שנה באופן עצמאי ובלתי תלוי.
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בקיצור, תמליצולה החבר לחפש את קבוצת קלים.
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או, להתקשר. כוכבית, תשאים ואחת, 45.