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Bengals trade for Joe Flacco, Chiefs-Jaguars Recap + Eagles-Giants Preview

In this episode, Patrick Dardy and Kyle DeVorche discuss the Bengals' surprising trade for Joe Flacco and recap the Chiefs vs. Jaguars Monday Night Football game. They also preview the upcoming E...

Bengals trade for Joe Flacco, Chiefs-Jaguars Recap + Eagles-Giants Preview
Bengals trade for Joe Flacco, Chiefs-Jaguars Recap + Eagles-Giants Preview
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spk_0 Well everybody welcome to the road road book show I am Patrick Dardy join this Tuesday by Kyle DeVorche
spk_0 and I am Patrick Dany Carter he is not in the Blue Ridge mountains.
spk_0 Yeah he is in the Dynies he is just over it.
spk_0 As we break down the entire week 6 slate with Kyle but today it is Kyle and today we are breaking down a juicy Monday Night football game
spk_0 Chiefs Jaguars, my home is QB3 Kyle.
spk_0 They are 5 weeks to haters aka you and Dany so they can never be done.
spk_0 We will talk about that with Xavier Worthy, Trevor Lawrence having a good game.
spk_0 It was because of two rushing touchdowns though big fantasy week.
spk_0 The Jerk McKinnon roll, Brian Thomas Jr. Travis Hunter.
spk_0 Then we will look forward to Thursday Night football, Eagles of the Giants only at 41.5 game total on this one.
spk_0 Sayk on Barkley was looking questionable earlier in the week.
spk_0 Now it seems like he is going to play.
spk_0 AJ Brown is highly questionable with hurt feelings for his ego.
spk_0 He is healthy but boy is he upset.
spk_0 He is not getting the ball.
spk_0 We will talk about that.
spk_0 Just to catch their fantasy with the Thursday night game but we would be remiss.
spk_0 Kyle we did not begin the show with the Maury in Hampton because that was the biggest news.
spk_0 We are going to talk about that in a minute actually because there has been even bigger news.
spk_0 A bomb dropped on the NFL landscape.
spk_0 No, yeah.
spk_0 As you said before the show the bingles are rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
spk_0 They are traded for as I described them on social media.
spk_0 Traveling salesman, fantasy points, con man, Joe Flacco.
spk_0 Who had a really really good con with the 2023 Browns.
spk_0 Isn't this amazing?
spk_0 He came into town like the music man.
spk_0 I am making the most dated reference imaginable.
spk_0 We will look it up.
spk_0 The monorail and even more dated reference from the Simpsons also looked that up.
spk_0 He sold them a beautiful thing.
spk_0 Happiness, hope, five games.
spk_0 Everything is great in the playoffs.
spk_0 And then he imploded in this left town, like left in the middle of the night, left them with the bill.
spk_0 Then he tried the same act of the cold slash year.
spk_0 Didn't go as well.
spk_0 Tried the same act.
spk_0 Then again they actually somehow brought him back to Cleveland.
spk_0 I was saying we will give you another chance to build the monorail.
spk_0 This sounds so much funnier as you recount it.
spk_0 Like of course, like you did your Simpsons but of course history looks bad if you remember it.
spk_0 Of course this is hilarious when you remember it.
spk_0 This is fun journey through time.
spk_0 Keep going.
spk_0 Journey through the Joe Flacco recent past but it brings us here to Cincinnati his third stop on his AFC North World Tour.
spk_0 I have confidence that he will be on the Pittsburgh Steelers at some point.
spk_0 Four years.
spk_0 Things are going poorly enough in Pittsburgh over the past five, six years to Joe Flacco.
spk_0 We'll be in yellow and black.
spk_0 But yeah, now he's in black and orange.
spk_0 Jake Browning probably been the worst quarterback in football Kyle since Joe borough got injured.
spk_0 We weren't expecting greatness from Jake Browning.
spk_0 We were expecting better than what we got based on his late 2023 cameo.
spk_0 But it's just kind of an axiom with backup quarterbacks.
spk_0 The more they play, the more they get exposed, the more the returns diminish that it seems that happened with Jake Browning.
spk_0 It's been a really, really tough schedule for the bingles.
spk_0 So I wonder maybe his play was going to pick up but the team itself they're done wondering about that.
spk_0 They're on to option B.
spk_0 It is somehow Joe Flacco.
spk_0 He has to face Packers defense this week that we thought was amazing.
spk_0 I've been taking on water.
spk_0 Then it kind of sunk against the Dallas Cowboys.
spk_0 But it's the Packers, then it's the Steelers, then things lighten up with the jets and the bears.
spk_0 So that's the next four games for this team.
spk_0 Desperation move as you point out.
spk_0 What does it mean for the bingles?
spk_0 What does it mean for fantasy managers Joe Flacco and Cincinnati?
spk_0 Yeah, I don't know.
spk_0 It's desperation as much as like a vain plea to fans that like I told you we're trying.
spk_0 We're really doing the best we can.
spk_0 And it was even a vain plea to I don't know, Jermar Chase and T Higgins.
spk_0 Yes, absolutely.
spk_0 Absolutely.
spk_0 I'm sure those players obviously Chase actually got home two days ago with a monster score.
spk_0 And I'm sure like he doesn't appreciate that the team is awful once again.
spk_0 And T Higgins has not been getting home quite as much with Jake Browning.
spk_0 I mean Chase wasn't until two days ago either.
spk_0 I will note that I mean we were making the point that it really is the rearranging the deck chairs.
spk_0 One of the only quarterbacks who has been worse in EPA per play than Jake Browning this year is Joe Flacco,
spk_0 who is dead last in the NFL.
spk_0 Jake Browning's actually been middle of the pack and completion percent over expected.
spk_0 Joe Flacco is chasing dead last.
spk_0 He's at 30th negative 4.3%.
spk_0 The like film watching Metcalfe want to call him that the pf stuff has actually been a little more favorable to Flacco versus Browning.
spk_0 But it's you know it's which one of these failed quarterbacks looks less bad and per the quote film metrics if you want to call him that.
spk_0 They're a little more favorable to Flacco.
spk_0 Flacco has also been a little bit better under pressure averaging slightly higher yards per attempt.
spk_0 Slightly higher big time throw rate slightly lower turn over worthy play rate.
spk_0 He's also had a bunch of drops on his pressured throw.
spk_0 So his numbers could be even better under pressure.
spk_0 And maybe maybe that's the one sort of shining light is that Jake Browning has really struggled under pressure and Joe Flacco with better wide receivers.
spk_0 It's probably in the same way like late in his career Aaron Rogers handled pressure well.
spk_0 He was just like I have two options.
spk_0 I'm never taking a sack.
spk_0 I think I've thrown away or give one of my receivers a chance.
spk_0 Both of which are our solid options versus taking a sack or throwing a really bad pass.
spk_0 Jake Browning has done more of the latter more of the sack taking and more of the throwing bad passes, especially throwing bad passes.
spk_0 So I think it's probably an upgrade.
spk_0 But the fact that Jake Browning has played so poorly and I cannot say for sure if this is an upgrade that kind of tells you where we are where we are at with Flacco through like three or four starts at his.
spk_0 I guess that is the bowl case there.
spk_0 I mean, there's no actual bowl case, but or Flacco's experience might actually mean something in the situation.
spk_0 He kind of took a lot of sacks early in his career.
spk_0 That rate went down as he got older.
spk_0 I mean, he's totally immobile.
spk_0 This is a horrible offensive line, but he seems probably better suited to get the ball out and not only to get it out, but to get it out to the two actually good players.
spk_0 Not just like feeding Mike Jaseki or the running back or Andre Yosheviss or whatever or Joe Flacco.
spk_0 I think that has me a big part of this move.
spk_0 They know he can at least get the ball to Jamar chase and to T Higgins.
spk_0 And then maybe they didn't trust Jake Browning to process fast enough even if he's more mobile than Joe Flacco is right now.
spk_0 If basically everyone is more mobile than Joe Flacco is right now.
spk_0 But this is probably just a bet that yeah, like maybe not only will he get the ball to our top two weapons more easily more often.
spk_0 But you know, maybe then the game won't go off the rails in the first and second quarter.
spk_0 Like it's been doing every single week or if he can just keep it within a score or two in the first half.
spk_0 Then maybe we can actually get cooking after the break right those probably are the two bets.
spk_0 He's better getting the ball to these two guys even if it's marginal, he will be better.
spk_0 And then hopefully he's just not submarine in the game from the opening whistle.
spk_0 And maybe that's the like the charitable view for Flacco to why I went I went downhill in Indianapolis and went downhill in Cleveland this year.
spk_0 He wasn't playing with anyone like Jamar chase and T Higgins even in Indy last year.
spk_0 You know, a few good receivers.
spk_0 Michael Pitman was playing through a broken back.
spk_0 Maybe we kind of overrated the weapons he had it as a disposal in those two previous stops.
spk_0 And maybe we will get yet another Joe Flacco revival.
spk_0 Nowadays it all pro receiver and a pro bowl level receiver and T Higgins.
spk_0 Yeah, I kind of a city said that kind of convinced me that at least maybe we can get some more garbage time fun.
spk_0 So I mean, that is frankly what Flacco has been doing for the past two years in both Cleveland and Indy not even in Cleveland again.
spk_0 But the first stop in Cleveland and the first stop in Indy.
spk_0 He wasn't like overly efficient right.
spk_0 He got to throw the football a lot and he threw accurate targets and also tons of interceptions.
spk_0 Frankly, the accurate targets portion of that equation is a little bit more than we can say for Jake Browning who maybe throwing the ball a lot.
spk_0 And he pulled it together in the fourth quarter on Sunday.
spk_0 I don't know how real that even is, but largely has been dreadfully inaccurate among the bottom bottom five or bottom 10 passers in terms of pft.
spk_0 Accurate throw rate as well. Flacco not that much better, but is marginally better and throwing too truly worst wide receivers.
spk_0 And as you get open more, it is easier to throw accurately too wide open receivers.
spk_0 So you know, you kind of sold me on this being a little bit more of a this is a fantasy and bio trade if anything like that is.
spk_0 Frankly, that's all it is because I do not think it's an actual wins kind of trade.
spk_0 I'll just say this against the greenway Packers this week will you start T Higgins down.
spk_0 Most of you are probably still starting him before like a desperation wide receiver three.
spk_0 But yeah, I guess we're not taking T Higgins out. He was in the lineup before even with Jake Browning Joe Flacco will talk about a more dini.
spk_0 I'm sure we'll have a lot to say on Thursday when we break down a Bingles Packers, but that's big news.
spk_0 The biggest news still in fantasy, at least with the most fallout is a Marian Hampton's ankle injury.
spk_0 I actually don't know to high ankle sprain, but when you go on injured reserve instantly.
spk_0 It's at least a high ankle sprain. Hopefully it's not a broken ankle.
spk_0 It was out the next four games. Really tough break for a player.
spk_0 You got off to a slow start had an unfortunate injury in his back field that he was able to take advantage of.
spk_0 I mean, how he's heard that's just life in the NFL and life for fantasy managers is usually that there's someone like an obvious next man up.
spk_0 Like even if they're not good, even in Arizona, whatever they're telling us Michael Carter will be the early down guy.
spk_0 I'm telling you some already Mercado. I will be third down back. I guess maybe it's somewhat similar with the, excuse me, Hassan Haskins and Camani by doll in Los Angeles Kyle, but neither of these players are very good.
spk_0 They've never been involved voluntarily in the offense. Not someone they've looked to proactively get the ball to even last year as Gus Edwards was struggling.
spk_0 Jake Dobbins was struggling. Who should fantasy managers if anyone prioritized what are real estate expectations for Hassan has been trouble saying that name for some reason and Camani by doll.
spk_0 Yeah, it actually when you said it has some parallels to the Carter D Mercado situation. I think in maybe this is a little bit of over comments. I actually think it has a lot of parallels to that.
spk_0 And that as much as like we want Camani but all last week it was a Mario D Mercado to be the gut reaction. I think this is the player. I think it is more logical and more probable that that player ends up being Hassan Haskins, which was revealed to be Michael Carter last week.
spk_0 Haskins he outcarried this is it's a small sample. It doesn't mean much, but he did outcarry Camani but all five to four last week.
spk_0 The doll is out there playing with like train lance at the end of the end of a clearly lost game and maybe most important. I think this is the most obvious data point is they cut Camani with doll.
spk_0 It didn't make the 53 man roster at the end of training camp and kept us on Haskins over him. Like you said, I think in a VOD record they expose Camani but all to waivers or to being later poached off of their practice squad.
spk_0 You do not value that player. I mean really much at all if you are saying like yeah, if someone else takes you, it just means nothing to us. They kept Haskins over him. I still think it is not 100% clear that Haskins is the lead back.
spk_0 But if you're making me bet all of the signs including the fact that he played under Jim Harboh on Michigan. He was not bad at Michigan either Haskins. That is all the signs point to Hassan Haskins for me at least as far as leading the team in carries goes.
spk_0 I do think Camani would all will see some carries. I think it will probably be the top back on passing down but for fantasy purposes that does make him the D. Mercado parallel and one D. Mercado didn't get home last week.
spk_0 He would have if he didn't drop that 70 some yard should have been touched down at the one yard line but also he had like just a handful of touches.
spk_0 I do think Camani would all roll is largely based on snaps and not touches and Haskins is the opposite. Maybe it doesn't get more than 40% snap share but all the snaps are just bangin between the tackle.
spk_0 Yeah it's probably back to how that backfield look last year where the early down touches are really just like part of a larger game plan where they're not actually expecting like big gains to come out of this.
spk_0 It's just like to set up the play afterwards or whatever where you've got to have some filler plays in there not every play. Yeah yeah fun play or the run is just like kind of the necessary evil to keep the script moving.
spk_0 You know to hopefully turn up two or three yards to make it like a second seven a second six or they're not about yeah it's not about being a staple of the offense anymore and in these situations you just try to look to like what can I project like at all here.
spk_0 We can probably safely project if there's going to be a goal line back it'll be Hassan Haskins. I try the number one thing to cling to.
spk_0 We think we can project come on about all being the past catcher or pride is also projecting in an offense that has two of the better easy button targets and NFL keen and Allen lad Maconkey.
spk_0 Probably not going to be a ton of check downs to come on of it all again a guy who didn't even begin near on the team.
spk_0 So the safest role projection just feel it feels like Hassan Haskins getting some touchdown opportunities and yeah if you're down and if you're down to Mario and Hampton fantasy you're hurting really really bad.
spk_0 But Hassan Haskins probably add their cow.
spk_0 You still put that one to bed.
spk_0 Yeah I'm spending like 250 some dollars on fab in my FFPC team because we had Hampton and we were juggernaut and this did not peel fun.
spk_0 This was like you said this is just part of the game of football and I do think much like Carter last week if you're out a starting running back whether it be this week it you know obviously it's Hampton could have a different running back a different week like you only get so many chances especially with Hampton on IR.
spk_0 Guaranteed to miss four games. There's a decent chance we get four starting two down roles for Hassan's like you don't find much better bets than that off the way for why are running back this far into the season so I think he kind of has to be prioritized.
spk_0 Yeah maybe a 25% fab outlay this is not an empty the clip because it's is bad like you want to always just do the one for one replacement but there's going to be better waiver wire running back additions and it's not
spk_0 a chance it's just going to be a band day whether you are Hampton manager or not so this is not like a 60 70% fab outlay this is like 25 30% which you know still meaningful.
spk_0 I'll be a Hassan haskins it's not going to be a killer app off the way for why are I will be right back up to this to break down Monday night football.
spk_0 Powerhouse is collide on Sunday night when Jared goff in the Lions face Patrick Mahomes and the chiefs tune in the NBC and peacock at seven PM Eastern as we lead you up to kick off at arrowhead stadium.
spk_0 Chiefs back in prime time this time on the only network the counts NBC the National Broadcasting Corporation they'll be on a short week coming off a road matchup a tough road loss onto the Jacksonville Jaguars were to be Frank Kyle.
spk_0 The Jags won that game the way the twenty twenty four chiefs would have won a game I go he fell and I'm out they're going to lose because he fell and I wait a minute he got up and I was really fell again.
spk_0 He got up again he's running the end of Chris Jones is just standing there for some reason one of the best defensive players and football is quit on the play and Trevor Lawrence is in for the game when he touched down that is a very twenty twenty four chiefs coded victory.
spk_0 Well the speaking of chiefs coded oh the other team double time outed for a penalty that set them back farther from a potential Hail Mary the other team is giving up play after play after play when they were going to win yeah I totally agree that's a unfortunately good way to put it for these chiefs and jack the chiefs were ten and
spk_0 one score games last year then I'll own three and one score games this year I mean the good news is for the if your chiefs fan like they're having some aggression in the mean but they just look like the same chiefs to me they're probably going to be fine we'll get to the chiefs in minute though because there were fantasy takeaways from this game or they're Brian Thomas junior and Travis Hunter both at their best outputs of the season the bad news is though the best output for Brian Thomas junior is eighty yards the best output for Travis Hunter is sixty four yards most that was on a forty yard catch up.
spk_0 So we're looking for anything to cling to with these jaguars receivers do we get it on Monday night time with Travis Hunter I'll say probably not he's running seventy plus percent of the routes and back to back games which if he was really efficient that would be really good it be good enough at least right it's not a full time starting role but it's close to it but he's not earning targets at a high per route clip at all this year and like I think there are plenty of reasons for that to be the case obviously the fact that he is a two way players maybe take a
spk_0 more of a toll on his body he's got kind of dinged up in fact back games as well just taking more of a toll on his body than maybe we expected coming out of college and even more importantly they're a handful of plays every single game
spk_0 where Trevor Lawrence is like audible and get the line calling different routes out I would assume and it just does not look like Travis Hunter knows what's going on which is another consequence of him playing both ways that I think we'll get ironed out over the long run but in the short run it is
spk_0 immediately impacting his ability to make an impact on offense so to me I don't really think this will turn around immediately it's probably something that will turn around but is that timeline three weeks is it eight weeks is it something it doesn't really pick up till
spk_0 sophomore season all of those are possible and I kind of lean towards the latter and also just this Jags team does not seem to be in general I mentioned with Travis Hunter just I really seem to be picking up
spk_0 the young Collins offense super easily they are getting so many pre snap penalties full starts getting up to the line late and part of that is maybe trying to get Travis Hunter on the same page as Trevor Lawrence some of
spk_0 that is just Trevor Lawrence learning yet another new playbook probably a little bit too much for both him and the entire team so I don't have a ton of faith that Travis Hunter has turned a corner or anything right
spk_0 time to senior or a quick hunter yet I just think nothing a Monday change the calculus maybe something that changed the
spk_0 fact Britain strange is injured we don't know how serious is we do know serious enough that he didn't play the second half like to
spk_0 chiefs the Jags are now in a short week maybe that could lead to more easy button desperation for the Jags but to your points I don't think they're going to want to throw
spk_0 another variable in there Travis Hunter is already dealing with so many different variables so I wouldn't do any Britain strange
spk_0 injuries potential like Avenue to more Travis Hunter targets other than the targets are now available Brian Thomas Jr. Tell us something good we need
spk_0 something good. I mean I think he is playing meaningfully better over the past two games than he did over the first three he had at least one drop in the first three
spk_0 games each of the first three games start the year he was one of eight eight uncontested targets he was not coming down with any of the physical need to have
spk_0 it kind of catches where he is truly a beast of a guy like his combined metrics are 99.9 percentile he is a freak of an athlete and he just was not playing like that kind of
spk_0 the way that like Marv has kind of struggled to leverage his physical acumen to on field play it's kind of playing like that to start the year over the past
spk_0 two weeks it has been both his highest rated and second highest rated game by pf as a receiver no drops over the past two weeks two three
spk_0 uncontested targets not earning elite volume around that 24 percent target share of the past two weeks but that is a good number and we've seen him earn extreme target shares in the past so I think he's probably put his
spk_0 worst stretch of football behind him and if you compare that with maybe push towards like a 30 percent target share still strikes me as someone who scores more points per game say from week six onward then he did in weeks one through five but I just you know two minutes
spk_0 guys mentioned all of the flaws of the offense I don't know how quickly or if at all those flaws will be fixed I mean namely Trevor Lawrence like it was fun last night he scored two rushing touchdowns the goofiest of all rushing touchdowns for the second and the throw to Brian Thomas like you said I
spk_0 all came on one big play for Travis Hunter a lot of it came on one big straight one big throw to Brian Thomas as well oh my god beautiful throw but like the fact that he can hit a beautiful throw has never been the issue it's
spk_0 that he cannot hit those kinds of throws or even less difficult throws on a down to down basis at all like generally doesn't have great touch on his throws still throws like bullets to guys five yards down field I don't think he's looked like a
spk_0 meanfully improved passer the offensive design is maybe a little too complicated but it is better than it was last year maybe the best he's had his career but Trevor is still part of the issue the offense being the little too
spk_0 complicated maybe still part of the issue and Brian Thomas not commanding elite target shares still part of the issue there are a lot of things that need to get fixed even if I totally
spk_0 think he is training in the right direction one issue to us has been a really tough schedule they began the air with Caroline and Cincinnati those are great matchups but that was the beginning of the year or like you said there's clearly been growing
spk_0 pain to this new offensive system the two best matchups come when they're the least familiar with the offense and trying to kind of learn on the fly then it's kind of in the
spk_0 pain train Houston San Francisco a team that's taken on defensive water but still a really smart coaching staff still a lot of impact players it was on the road a same deal with the chiefs
spk_0 you know maybe not like a truly elite defense but a well above average defense still
spk_0 true well coach too much like 49ers defense is I think like Robert's law is probably one of the best DCs in the league did nothing wrong in New York by the way I
spk_0 don't know what they are and then so just real tough matchups that's continuing though with Seattle this week and then the Rams then they have a
spk_0 by then they come out against the Raiders Raiders the defense is not their weakness so it's not like a pushover matchup then it's
spk_0 Houston again then it's the chargers were injuries have been getting biblical for the chargers but talk on another well organized well coach
spk_0 team finally it begins to let up with the Cardinals Titans Colts a Jets that's we're talking around Thanksgiving
spk_0 once you hit 11th place in your league you really solidify the non-playoff birth you really start to get momentum going with BTJ so just a lot of
spk_0 stuff that not going right for BTJ that might not as you said turn around in a fortnight Kyle or even one weekend but I love it was a sign of progress
spk_0 it has to get better I mean I feel like it just has to get better but I got him ranked as a low end wide receiver to this
spk_0 week which it feels reactionary well I don't really got to react he's that's what he's been he doesn't have a touchdown except for a
spk_0 a fluke rushing score on week one this is what Brian he's still in line ups we still falling down the ranks and needs to show us
spk_0 more to rise back up so yeah Padre Mahomes led the chiefs and rushing again on Monday night Kyle we love in fantasy
spk_0 yeah it's a QB 3 by average points through five weeks the fantasy renaissance has been happening from a homes maybe talk about that a little more in just a second
spk_0 but is bershard Smith finally reviving the Jared McKinnon roll second week in a row where he's pretty involved as a pass catcher maybe lost another
spk_0 catch to a penalty or something I believe it's caught at least three balls and back to back week sky he has in fact I just confirmed that
spk_0 is the Jared McKinnon roll coming back into our lives aka maybe making bershard Smith keep your relevant yeah I don't really think so not yet at least I mean last night was a
spk_0 legit shootout much sure he catches three passes which is not really fantasy viable but it's at least something to hang your
spk_0 hat on only sees one carry though he plays just six snaps he played just as many snaps on special teams and for reference to the
spk_0 Jared McKinnon roll and Jared McKinnon's final season with the chiefs was 30 snaps per game five times as many snaps as we saw with bershard Smith last night bershard Smith snaps here actually plummeted from week four two
spk_0 week five I just don't think they're willing to commit to him the McKinnon roll they're continually towing with like oh what if we did this in a few
spk_0 weeks and we prepped for it but it just seems like they're not willing to fully dip their toes into the waters of him playing what what should be a valuable roll and what he
spk_0 should be the perfect take them in waters take them again in what he is like he looks explosive when he touches the ball he's a really good I'm
spk_0 he's a former wide receiver you expect to be a good pass catcher out of the backfield but they just not they have not shown us enough
spk_0 of him playing that role for it to be anything fantasy relevant other than he's a fun bench stash
spk_0 I can't you know I've never heard the phrase take the waters by the way no no it's a war book you're reading
spk_0 it's it is a arcane old fashioned reference it's not from anything I've read recently but it is very old fashioned I believe
spk_0 it's like to are taken like the healing qualities of like a mineral bath or something like that but it's about healing take the
spk_0 jacket and water so bershard Smith we're begging you can boy yeah this she's backfield I mean there's a lot of not fun backfields
spk_0 to rank this year but I'm doing the rankings and like we take the rankings very seriously I've been our main rankings guy
spk_0 like almost 15 years now like you agonize over stuff that you know you probably shouldn't even agonize over like the
spk_0 cheese backfield is just one time like listen I wish I could just put in the article like I am guessing when I rank
spk_0 and I say I've a check go like you tell me what to go on here I'm all ears like it's just such an awful backfield
spk_0 talk about it they need to make a trade man they need to make a better I seriously just think they I mean you agree with me they
spk_0 need to play bershard Smith more like let him play 40% of the snaps see what happens it can't be worse than what we're
spk_0 getting right now but like you said I don't know that they want to do that maybe a trade is a better outcome I mean
spk_0 breeze hall is like a 1500 yard from scrimmage player on this team in 10 games but I hope it's not like album
spk_0 come on because that might be there's no way Mickey loomis trades his favorite child though like and I think
spk_0 they just extended him middle of last year or two it would obviously we talked about this on monday teams never make
spk_0 the trades they should and that is a trade that they're making I don't think maybe Kansas City chiefs I don't
spk_0 know given Rico dot all three million dollars instead of giving a Elijah Mitchell one million I think maybe
spk_0 the give Elijah Mitchell one and a half million can't even get on the field Xavier worthy thankfully got on
spk_0 the field ankle injury had an extra questionable just beyond a shoulder issue and is return in week four
spk_0 he had five catches and eight targets 83 yards six catches on nine targets last night Kyle only 42 yards
spk_0 he did re-injure his ankle at some point didn't miss any time he limped off the field kind of like
spk_0 looked a little like solemn on the sideline and then immediately yeah check it looks bad he stayed down
spk_0 looked hurt and I was impressed that he got it it out but 17 targets in two games since returning where
spk_0 she writes only out one more game it's the Detroit Lions this week though we hope it's a shootout
spk_0 temperature check on Xavier worthy also temperature check on taekwondo orton who as you know I'm
spk_0 in speculating like even with these guys coming back I kind of think taekwondo orton maybe it's just
spk_0 carved out his own individual role that is not affected by Xavier worthy or she writes give us your
spk_0 take on Xavier worthy then give us your take on taekwondo orton yeah I mean you laid it out pretty
spk_0 succinctly Xavier worthy is now I don't say dominating targets but kind of is clearly the focal point
spk_0 of this team's passing attack that well maybe not what we're used to from the homes circa his like
spk_0 2022 2021 run I at least think looks a little better a little more aggressive this year I mean
spk_0 person numbers they are more aggressive a passing attack this year even if they haven't been
spk_0 the best deep throwing team or even like there's kind of hovering around league average they are
spk_0 trying and are not as bad as they as they were last year which are all improvements and as right
spk_0 now Xavier worthy is really they're only meaningfully talented receiver like Hollywood Brown and
spk_0 Houston Schuster are snap eaters frankly Taekwondo might be better than those guys at least he
spk_0 fills a role he's better he really is better because they've just wanted a deep ball role player for
spk_0 a while they couldn't find anyone Taekwondo orton it's kind of like Xavier worthy thing last year he's
spk_0 not connecting on a lot of them but he actually is connecting on some of them some of them he being
spk_0 patched from the homes or that's right kind of think Taekwondo orton what he's got going on as
spk_0 nothing to do I feel like was Xavier worthy or she writes at this point and that they've actually found
spk_0 like a role playing deep specialist this hard to cut you off there yeah for fantasy I don't think
spk_0 his role is really that relevant he ran just half the snaps last night a 13% target share that is
spk_0 not a player who is really even worth rostering but I do think it makes more sense for the chiefs in
spk_0 terms of like he's a better real life player he truly is the classic better in real life than he is
spk_0 in fantasy and what he's on what he's on what he's to he just might be worth rostering and like the
spk_0 MBS spirit or like listen is a wide receiver five on my team I don't ever want to play him
spk_0 but I'm already in several leagues with Andrea Pockelips this is some sure you are or if you
spk_0 have to play if you're gonna have like a wide receiver five or six on your bench you want to have
spk_0 at least some sort of plausible upside it goes about saying there's a zero point downside
spk_0 but Taekwondo orton you can at least tell your story tell yourself the story he might score a 47
spk_0 yard touchdown and flip my match up that was the only thing I would say about Taekwondo orton
spk_0 because I don't mind rostering him with one of my very final bench spots but it's fake especially
spk_0 like we should get issued out like god willing we get a really fun shoot out with with the lions
spk_0 and even if he is only running half of of the routes which is probably what's gonna happen even if
spk_0 he's only getting a 15% target share this is the one week where that 15% could be 15% of a pretty
spk_0 big number if they're playing in a back and forth game in a game which they're throwing as aggressively
spk_0 as they can I don't think he's even like a wide receiver five in almost any week because he literally
spk_0 just doesn't get targets and runs half the routes but this isn't any other week it's a 51 and a half
spk_0 point total per producer Adam like that is a fun game so in showdown he's a fun play in season
spk_0 long he is a viable play maybe for the last time especially with she rice coming back but he
spk_0 truly is viable this week and the fact that he's running half the routes has also dropped Hollywood
spk_0 to almost exactly half the routes as well Hollywood Brown like like I said I just don't even know
spk_0 that Hollywood Brown is better and he's certainly not higher ceiling than Taikwan Thornton at this point
spk_0 so I don't I think Brown is somehow less playable you know you know how they we know the chiefs
spk_0 are back in fancy football because there's no way even lash this game total of them 48 and a half
spk_0 lash which is not your instantly the person happy like and we're going under here yeah 4 and a
spk_0 minute that's high that's me by any reasonable standard that's high but when you patch your
spk_0 mohomes these kind of games need to be over 50 not just 50 and a half frankly they need to be 51
spk_0 and a half they need to be 52 and a half yes so even 51 and a half we say we need another point
spk_0 before we declare the chiefs truly back the 51 and a half like we're we're heading in the right
spk_0 direction we are at some point you know I don't know maybe a 54 we're gonna half even these are
spk_0 things that used to happen for the days I know these are things that actually get all of the fans
spk_0 out of the stadiums practice and bubbles let's get 55 point total 56 point total that's right
spk_0 as some of homes he is cubie what going forward as I told you by average weekly fantasy points right
spk_0 now he's the cubie three what would you call him in a vacuum going forward a quarterback I think
spk_0 cubie five I could have gone cubie four I don't think I'd go cubie three I think maybe an argument
spk_0 for cubie six but truly in the the worst you can say is a top half cubie one the best you can say
spk_0 is a top three I mean he is quite literally producing is a top three fantasy quarterback I think
spk_0 some of the rushing production is a little unstable in that he is it's truly the best rushing
spk_0 season of his career so far he has three games of 50 plus rushing yards and a touchdown he has
spk_0 four such games in his entire regular season career his first fifth and seventh most rushing yards
spk_0 in a regular season game have all come this year in the first five games of the season I do think
spk_0 he is playing that sort of desperation playoff style that he does in the playoffs almost every
spk_0 single year I don't think that will stay and even as the passing game gets better the passing game
spk_0 won't get better in a way that offsets the loss of Russian production because Russian production is
spk_0 more valuable for fantasy I do think though the passing game should get better and he'll at least
spk_0 make up for probably some loss like he's not averaging 40 yards game or whatever going forward so
spk_0 if the passing game gets better it means a loss in Russian production probably sends him from cubie
spk_0 three to cubie five or six but the only way he loses the rushing production is if the passing game
spk_0 gets better so there's kind of a number of different ways for him to get home for fantasy purposes
spk_0 specific so real quick then a rest of season not including buys or whatever so sure thing points
spk_0 for game who scores more fancy points rest of season pattern homes or Justin Herbert um homes
spk_0 I think my homes to Herbert normal typical chargers logic has taken hold good things are not allowed
spk_0 for the San Diego now Los Angeles Chargers franchise they are not allowed to have nice things I think
spk_0 it's pretty simple a rest of season more fantasy points per game patching my homes or Drake may
spk_0 all go Drake makes I think similar rushing but mazes more of like he will always do that kind of a lunatic
spk_0 I just feel like my homes is passing floor is higher enough than maze I think his passing floor is higher
spk_0 than maze rushing floor is higher if that makes sense yeah no it was close I'm not I'm not confident in
spk_0 this one uh that's really the only two I see Jalen Hertz was the one I thought you were going to ask
spk_0 me about I mean I mean I didn't hear it's a price still finished ahead of him but what do you think
spk_0 who scored more fancy points Jalen Hertz or Patrick Maholves I was gonna say Jalen Hertz but that
spk_0 was the one that I thought you're gonna ask and I was worried because I definitely don't know that
spk_0 he's going to score more obviously he has the touch push advantage and we would assume probably
spk_0 just a general rushing advantage despite the Maholves rushing spikes over the past month but like
spk_0 the passing output has been so bad that it has also meant a limited number of touchdown push
spk_0 opportunities because they're just not moving the ball well in any capacity run pass no matter
spk_0 who's running no matter who they're throwing to it's just not working out all that well so I'm
spk_0 still gonna say Hertz but the fact that he has fallen so far I'm definitely not confident in that one
spk_0 we'll get to the Eagles in just a minute I wasn't even gonna ask this one but
spk_0 Patrick Maholves Baker may feel rest of season fans homes like I'm bigger is a really good fantasy
spk_0 quarterback but I think they're just similar profiles and one of them is Patrick Maholves
spk_0 off well well so you and Denny finally got religion on my homes we'll see what Denny says this week
spk_0 may feel those the one quarterback that Denny hit on this more and I just kind of let him run
spk_0 with it because he was correct it was like reversion is coming for this man and he is still
spk_0 playing really well but he just can't throw touchdowns at the clip that he did last year so he's
spk_0 he's a bad example if he gave us a different may it was the example that hurts me them like that's
spk_0 the one that tugs in my heartstrings versus what I think will happen yeah speaking of taking the
spk_0 waters once Denny's done with taking the waters maybe he can give us his wretched opinion on Patrick
spk_0 Lombs I get a little real quick so I guess we should do the same thing with Trevor Lawrence
spk_0 Trevor Lawrence rest of season is QB what when you think Trevor Lawrence like Jamie Lee cares like QB
spk_0 18 or whatever I was gonna say QB 17 is kind of a sure perfect perfect yeah I mean right now I believe
spk_0 he is quite literally like the QB 18 and either points are points for game he's the QB 23 and
spk_0 PFS passing grade QB 20 and EPA per play which is fine QB 32 and completion percent over expected
spk_0 some of that is tanked by the fact that he quite easily leads the league and drop passes from his
spk_0 receivers but I don't think it completely papers over the fact that he's played the same mid style
spk_0 of football he's played every single year since his rookie season which is actually terrible but like
spk_0 I said this I think earlier I just don't think he looks like that much of an improved player it just
spk_0 looks like the bells and whistles around him have improved which is good for him it's still helpful
spk_0 but it doesn't make him anything resembling in QB 1 congrats on the two Russian touchdowns
spk_0 in the good fantasy day but that is not stable it is stable it's the fact that he's just he is the
spk_0 20th best quarterback in the NFL and I think he'll probably just score like that going forward maybe
spk_0 a slight advantage from rushing I think he's going to tick up just a little bit I think he will be
spk_0 more of a solid QB 2 than we've seen because it's been pretty bad pretty disappointing and you let
spk_0 me see the low ground to you on this guy and it would look like a truly atrocious if he didn't have
spk_0 the two rushing touchdowns last night which I guess you say if my aunt were a clown or whatever the
spk_0 phrase is like so they did happen but if they hadn't it would look totally insane totally deranged
spk_0 how bad he's been I don't even know this is like a pointless quarrel I don't know who this is for but
spk_0 Trevor Lawrence or Kyler Murray rest of season fantasy points I think Kyler just like the
spk_0 rushing I'm bailing on the what rushing and he's just guy I don't do anything anymore like what
spk_0 this is a serious this guy's deal even do anything wait why are you even out there man like you're
spk_0 so bored and upset and angry and I guess you can't really be bored if you're also angry but
spk_0 he's checked out what is even going on with Kyler Murray what do you do here I'm tired of it
spk_0 but yeah I guess I probably still take Kyler Trevor Lawrence rest of season Trevor Lawrence or
spk_0 not yeah nevermind this isn't very compelling Sam Darnold rest of season I knew I knew you're
spk_0 gonna say Sam Darnold instant click Sam Darnold literally the most efficient quarterback in the
spk_0 NFL right now don't care if they're gonna try and run the football lot he's actually good right now
spk_0 which is you just can't say that of Trevor Trevor's mediocre perfectly mid final one Trevor Lawrence
spk_0 Michael Pennix Jr more fantasy points rest of season I'll go Trevor Lawrence also just because
spk_0 of rushing like Pennix is such a statue of a quarterback and the team also has zero interest in throwing
spk_0 the football one of the run heaviest teams in the NFL so I'll go Trevor but it's very begrudging
spk_0 speaking your teams they have no interest in throwing the football we'll talk about the Eagles
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spk_0 yeah Eagles Giants the studio defending suburbial champions and your party to a 41 and a half game total
spk_0 I mean I don't know man this used to be a sport this used to be a league this used to be cool you
spk_0 speak fun for all of our best teams the chiefs last year the the Eagles this year the bills kind
spk_0 of almost every year now they they don't want to score more points than is absolutely necessary
spk_0 and you see what happens when you adopt this is a hobby horse I've been on I think a lot of people
spk_0 do not agree with this but like I thought like week five was emblematic of that for the Buffalo
spk_0 like dude approach the game like you have to score 50 points don't approach the games if the goal
spk_0 is getting a lead and then like milking the game we need to go back to our dominant teams need to try
spk_0 to score 50 points the Eagles do not do that you know the bills do not do that I guess you can say
spk_0 the Eagles tried it in week five a season high 38 past attempts for Jalen Hertz had 19 and half
spk_0 time you only average is 25 per game coming into that so it was only six off his season average going
spk_0 in half time they went up 17 to three real early in the third quarter 47 yard passing score to
spk_0 say quen barkley has a wheel route to his actual pass not just to check down so they did it and then
spk_0 it was kind of working but then I don't know just like stopped working I what would you even say
spk_0 happen I am honestly I am like very confused by what happened to the Eagles against the Broncos and
spk_0 you know 43 yards second most of the season for AJ Brown which tells you all you need to know
spk_0 like good that he had a second most yards got a traffic that a second most yards is 43
spk_0 to my teeth Smith does have a hundred yard game but what did you even see from this Eagles passing
spk_0 attack on Sunday Kyle yeah I mean whether it worked or not I fall firmly on the side of this
spk_0 did not work not just because they lost which they did but Hertz was 19 them on all quarterbacks
spk_0 when say it was about 28 quarterbacks in eK per play last week who's 24th in completion percent
spk_0 over expected 26 in success rate you'll put up was it put up 17 points right like I
spk_0 this is it's such a mediocre passing attack and it was a deep bomb and probably hit that AJ Brown
spk_0 just came up maybe that maybe that's the difference right is that one play and that in a small
spk_0 sample in a sample of even slightly right around 40 dropbacks like yeah that is the difference
spk_0 between looking really good and really bad but also like that stuff tends to happen more when
spk_0 you're not that good at passing the football probably like that is my intuition there is that
spk_0 bad seemingly random plays probably happened to slightly higher rate when you're actually not that
spk_0 good in the same way like you guys hobby horse trouble learns like wow if his own if his receivers only
spk_0 made the greatest play ever like I don't want to say that AJ Brown needed to make a great play he
spk_0 just needed to continue to play but like oh turns out your deva wide receiver is disgruntled and
spk_0 giving less effort like yeah we know that's gonna happen well Kyle you're talking about the
spk_0 end verse to like a very real principle so what you're saying is real that yeah if you're inaccurate
spk_0 or whatever not a great pastor this kind of stuff will happen you more often this is but this always
spk_0 drove me crazy the entire time Brady era era with the Patriots kind of a home to the cheese for
spk_0 people like the Patriots are so lucky like this is absolutely ridiculous like I've never seen a
spk_0 team as lucky as this yeah it's because the better you are and the lucky you are because like when
spk_0 you're good at everything then things tend to break in your direction and it's kind of the
spk_0 inverse of that too yeah if you're not amazing at it things might not break in your direction so
spk_0 let's say that's actually a good kind of philosophical answer to most maybe happening with Jalen
spk_0 Hertz there so yeah AJ Brown man I don't know like this guy's almost starting to look like a mafia plant
spk_0 like real real on upset real unhappy is he even trying anymore you know like very very loose
spk_0 trade rumors swirling like nothing like if I feel like there's an air so you know there's
spk_0 these super loose trade rumors that feel like I'm like barely even getting denied I think there was
spk_0 a report like that I interested in trading him but yeah that was on this the most recent
spk_0 something morning I believe but also like they're very they're not trying to hide the fact it seems
spk_0 like that they're unhappy with each other though 100% totally agree that like so what we're on
spk_0 is see your only comes out and addresses it all the time and I don't see his casual about it but he's
spk_0 he's you know front about it he does admit that like yeah I understand what is going on with
spk_0 AJ Brown I don't think he's probably the happiest with it but neither is AJ Brown and you know this might
spk_0 just be like the context of the offense I mean this is partially a hundred percent true the context
spk_0 the offense makes AJ Brown's numbers look worse but to the best of our ability to divine like how well
spk_0 AJ Brown is playing sing not playing awfully well certainly not up to a standard right now he's
spk_0 wider see verse 62 and he has pins open score wider see verse 69 and yards per out run
spk_0 it's target on a pretty met 20% of his routes because he runs all the routes he still has a
spk_0 solid target share but he doesn't look like capital A capital J capital B AJ Brown he doesn't look
spk_0 the Titans wearing I believe it was Dolce and Gabana sunglasses photo shoot AJ Brown that I know
spk_0 and love he's not playing up to that standard an extremely high standard he's set for us to expect
spk_0 I still think I'll rebound like I don't think that he has fallen off a cliff but the fact that he's
spk_0 not playing elite and the offense is also struggling specifically in passing I mean they're not
spk_0 running the ball great either frankly I don't think he really has any shot to live up to like
spk_0 wider see for one standard this year can he this is I yeah I mean I think that ship has sailed at
spk_0 least for now can he even just be called in every week wide receiver two right now I still haven't
spk_0 ranked as such it feels like it's getting less tenable as we go though so yeah when you think
spk_0 AJ Brown you think wide receiver what oh man I I think wide receiver I don't actually know that
spk_0 he lives up to that either and it is I think at this point maybe he has like a more similar profile
spk_0 to like a a puffed up Jamis and Williams where there will still be spike weeks I am I am pretty
spk_0 confident he's gonna drop like 150 and two at some point this year but I think the lows are going
spk_0 to become much I mean they already have and I think this will continue to be true the lows are
spk_0 going to be much more painful for fantasy purposes you probably won't ever see a wide receiver 19
spk_0 week you're gonna see a wide receiver three week and a wide receiver 40 week back to back weeks
spk_0 that makes a lot of sense AJ Brown we're just two everything you said about like his efficiency metrics
spk_0 and marks with AJ Brown the guy with this injury history you do wonder like if he's healthy like
spk_0 his knees swollen or whatever they're not listing him with that but he was dealing with the knee
spk_0 injury to start the year ugly bright and he did basically all last year he's gonna have knee
spk_0 drained constantly yeah yeah we know teams they only list you on the injury report of it's
spk_0 inhibiting your ability to practice so I'm sure he's not even 100% healthy AJ Brown I don't know
spk_0 it's hard to say for defending Super Bowl champions probably still the best team the NFC
spk_0 like you don't want to make that that team weaker when you're in your window I really do think
spk_0 they should just trade him maybe like a player for player trade too something that makes them better
spk_0 this year because this is this is like kind of like the life of an alpha wide receiver there just
spk_0 is a shelf life like so if you watch been did you watch the Netflix documentary on the Cowboys
spk_0 I have not know I've seen clips of it but no like Michael Irvin just like a different type of
spk_0 human being and you can probably only be around that for so long step on digs I mean you're kind
spk_0 of see the same to like the level of emotion he plays at like we saw Monday excuse me Sunday night
spk_0 against the bills it's like wow like there's just maybe kind of a shelf life that it might be time
spk_0 just for these two teams to part for AJ Brown to like take his energy somewhere else but
spk_0 they're Super Bowl contender they probably won't do that let's take one Barclay is expected to play
spk_0 after he's missed some time with an Andrey earlier this week Kyle but you know he's not he hasn't
spk_0 had any big 20 yard run you runs on the ground hadn't had a single 20 yard gain all year until the
spk_0 aforementioned 47 yard wheel route touchdown what's going on him the giant Stephens real bad on the
spk_0 ground pretty solid through the air what's the the Sequan Barclay lay in the land for week six
spk_0 yeah I think Sequan Barclay is probably the best running back in the NFL in ideal conditions I
spk_0 mean the fact that he was pretty inefficient for like a large portion of his giant's career and then
spk_0 he gets in a really good situation and is immediately the most efficient player in the NFL on the
spk_0 ground or maybe second most kind of high cut it kind of tells us that's true he is the epitome of a
spk_0 high volume but boom bus runner seeks the home run more than most players who can push for 400
spk_0 touches and now the offensive lines playing a little bit worse the passing game is less of a threat
spk_0 than we've seen in years for this team he's making just a lot harder for him to hit these 20 40 yard
spk_0 carries do I think he's done hitting them absolutely not and I do think he is more likely to
spk_0 bounce back consistently we're like this is maybe not an aberration but it's the low point for
spk_0 him versus AJ Brown where we're like we're gonna we're gonna have this conversation again even to be
spk_0 pops for 150 this week we might have this exact same conversation in a month I do think that we're
spk_0 probably less likely to be doing that with Sequan Barclay as far as his backups go tank bigsby who
spk_0 they traded for think right after week one has not played an offensive snap they actually did
spk_0 just trade form for kick returning duties which is kind of good at I guess we'll shiply return two
spk_0 weeks ago I believe and has been splitting almost evenly the backup snaps with AJ Dylan on the very
spk_0 off chance that Sequan Barclay doesn't play this is the Thursday night game right so it was a
spk_0 short week things could get weird I think we'd be very likely to see Will Shipley as the number one
spk_0 back and AJ Dylan I don't even know if we'd see one be they really did seem to like Will Shipley
spk_0 during the off season talking them up pretty consistently it wouldn't be a true one for one
spk_0 replacement of the Barclay workload but I do think Shipley would be like a high-end RB2 if this
spk_0 week or any week Sequan misses and so yeah maybe this week Shipley will get a little more run
spk_0 than usual to short week banged up but this week's a pretty important interesting way station
spk_0 for Sequan Barclay I feel like we're short week against a bad run defense like it's time it's time
spk_0 with only six carries that was weird against the bra everything was weird about that Eagles game
spk_0 on Sunday it's kind of an important game for Sequan Barclay even with the health concerns
spk_0 uh do we trust the cam scataboo process Kyle where my process is he's gonna get a lot of work
spk_0 and then you hope the result there's a lot of fantasy points he's been getting a lot of work
spk_0 he has not been getting a lot of fantasy points Tyrone Taylor excuse me Tyrone Tracy
spk_0 is practicing this week with the shoulder injury still might not play are we still trusting the
spk_0 cam scataboo process where it's it's it's almost working but it's just not quite getting yeah in the
spk_0 past three weeks cam scataboo is the RB4 in expected fantasy points he is the seventh worst running
spk_0 back over that stretch in fantasy points over expectation which is to say he is pretty
spk_0 meaningfully underperforming just the base the baseline but we'd expect from his role he still
spk_0 at least has a solid ppr base floor because even when they're losing they're throwing two he's
spk_0 good pass catchers really good pass catcher on college I do think that like even the last time
spk_0 saw Tyrone Tracy before he went down with the shoulder injury up to that point in the game I want
spk_0 to say it was like a seven to two carry lead over cam scataboo they were still they were forced to
spk_0 play cam scataboo more I don't think it was a very clear choice on their part I don't think cam
spk_0 scataboo had fully forced the issue in their mind I think he had in the way he had played but I
spk_0 don't think they were fully throwing in the towel and Tracy yet as of the last time we saw him it's
spk_0 a short week he's coming off of an injury that could have and maybe still sidelines him for longer
spk_0 than just this game I think this is a spot where he probably doesn't get a ton of run even if they
spk_0 want him to but in the next few weeks after that if cam scataboo keeps getting bottled up I do think
spk_0 there's a potential list to redevolve into a committee yeah it's just that is what it boils down
spk_0 to where cam scataboo could have run away with this job maybe he still will he has a good
spk_0 performance and it's tough defense like the Eagles on a short week but it's just kind of a classic
spk_0 he's not he's not taking the job and running with it he's not taking the opportunity and bearing a
spk_0 guy who probably could have been buried Tyrone Tracy even if they wanted to be a two back back field
spk_0 he's not a guy if cam scataboo were playing so well that they like couldn't play Tyrone Tracy I
spk_0 don't think they'd be upset but that just hasn't happened maybe we'll on Thursday
spk_0 became scataboo not quite getting what he needed to do final final bullet point conversation point
spk_0 your cow first came down the link neighbors for giants on Sunday against the saints no one really
spk_0 did anything cool unless you count Theo Johnson scoring two touchdowns the o Johnson season is one
spk_0 no robins in season canceled dairy slight in season is canceled pretty rough game but he's just
spk_0 always a rough frustrating player what did we see not to he's not practicing I don't think he plays
spk_0 this week and very much a spot where maybe they just sit him down anyways they're like hey take
spk_0 some time off and clear your head don't like football this week man I don't think there's anyone who
spk_0 steps up in his wake it's going to be a mix of like Jalen Hyatt and Bo Collins I do want to rob
spk_0 his oh yeah this is this time it counts you know I'm a GP beer high you know not a GPG I guess
spk_0 they show down yeah high and show down yeah no price too high if anything they price him higher
spk_0 less people play him he's even better I don't know I have a lot of the salaries I feel very cool for him
spk_0 to have two touchdowns last week and a touchdown three before that he was currently responsible for
spk_0 100% of the Jackson dark passing touchdowns do we think a there will be a lot of Jackson dark passing
spk_0 touchdowns especially on Thursday no I like Jackson dark no I don't think they're will be
spk_0 be do we think Theo Johnson continues to see 100% of his teams passing touchdowns no that's obviously
spk_0 not realistic and in terms of the yardage production I think he has a combined 50 yards over the
spk_0 past two weeks he is earning targets at a much higher clip partially because Malik neighbors is
spk_0 out of the lineup he missed some time two weeks ago and obviously the entirety of last week and
spk_0 done for the year that's gonna help guys underneath get more looks and the quarterback switch is
spk_0 maybe just a tendency thing for Jackson dark target his tight end more than Russell Wilson was
spk_0 but I think it's maybe we can project a 20% target share on a team that we don't think is gonna
spk_0 have that much success through the air he's still just a tight end to but at least he's gone
spk_0 from completely unviable in fantasy to a legit streaming option he's just a he's just a tight end
spk_0 to as you say but thankfully part we needed like some sort of infusion at the tight end position
spk_0 and then all of a sudden there's several just a tight end to kind of bubbling up or I guess you
spk_0 can't even include Jake Tonjes in that or George Kittle hopefully maybe be back in week seven
spk_0 of a Theo Johnson's bubbling up of course Darren Waller has bubbled up Mason Taylor
spk_0 up for the jets uh Tassam Hill even back in getting the ball and running AJ Barner scoring a few
spk_0 touchdowns man heck even Gunner Helm got on the field last week not anywhere close so it's
spk_0 top 24 mix right now but a position that badly needed a talent and this production infusion
spk_0 maybe actually getting it Theo Johnson at the vanguard of that it could have an ingram too
spk_0 evidently he's back he's back so yeah I think we're instead of being being back we're gone
spk_0 because we're done we're done with the show Kyle you know be 10 facts up on the website right now
spk_0 I take it or that that published on Tuesday right my imagining it does but I was busy this morning
spk_0 so by the time you listen to this it should be up if you are watching live somehow no by the time
spk_0 you're listening 10 facts will be up waiver wire to the course up before waivers runs on Tuesday evening
spk_0 a dini card is going to be back on Wednesday along with his regression files he'll be back on Thursday
spk_0 as we preview the entire week six late but we'll be doing that after I post my rankings I'm so for
spk_0 Kyle I'm Pat thanks for listening today please listen to us in 48 hours