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Adam Silver forced to address Clippers All-Star Game AND WNBA player/league feud! LeBron's "decision" leads to skyrocketing Lakers prices! (Episode 1362 Hour 2)

In this episode of Nothing Personal, host David Samson discusses the latest controversies surrounding NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, including the Clippers' All-Star Game situation and ongoing WNB...

Adam Silver forced to address Clippers All-Star Game AND WNBA player/league feud! LeBron's "decision" leads to skyrocketing Lakers prices! (Episode 1362 Hour 2)
Adam Silver forced to address Clippers All-Star Game AND WNBA player/league feud! LeBron's "decision" leads to skyrocketing Lakers prices! (Episode 1362 Hour 2)
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spk_0 Welcome back to Nothing Personal. It is hour two on Tuesday, October 7, 2025. Thank
spk_0 you for your flexibility in the time of day. We're a bit later if you're listening to
spk_0 this wherever you download your podcast. We're about two hours past, not about exactly
spk_0 two hours past when we'd normally be. Thank you to Draft Kings and Metal Arc for allowing
spk_0 some flexibility. Coco, we're going to switch it up a little bit. We're going to do another
spk_0 hour here because we're live and we're ready. But here's the little switch we're going to make.
spk_0 During the, I want to bring people into this. This is this is the show. I want to make sure
spk_0 people are understanding what's happening. So in the first hour there was during the conversation
spk_0 about the Seattle Mariners and Detroit Tigers series. I mentioned that one of the storylines
spk_0 is whether Josh Neller will play. Josh Neller, we have no indication why. So I tweet that
spk_0 Josh Neller was not on the team plane with Seattle when they flew from Seattle to Detroit.
spk_0 Then I saw someone else say that, oh, I think he's having a baby. And then I told you that the way
spk_0 it would work is if you leave it 9 a.m. on a game day, you get there, you get to play the game,
spk_0 you're there for the birthday or baby. And Coco got PTSD about something that happened. I don't
spk_0 know six years ago before COVID, that's how long ago it happened. And you can look it up if you
spk_0 want. But I was either on this show or on a different show. And there was an example of a player who
spk_0 missed a World Series game, Daniel Hudson, to attend the birth of his baby. And I was very critical
spk_0 of that because I thought that his teammates would be critical of that. And I thought that as a
spk_0 team executive, I'd be critical of that. He was there closer at the time. And my view was that
spk_0 you the owners would have flown him privately to the game and then right back after the game and
spk_0 flying back and forth, just come to the, you know, the three and a half hours of the game.
spk_0 And so the situation with Josh Neller, he's not the closer, but he's a very important piece of
spk_0 the Mariners and Mariners acquired him for this purpose at the deadline with you, Henio Suarez.
spk_0 And they, they are all in. They've never, they've, wait, they've never been to the World Series.
spk_0 Forget one the World Series. And during the break, Koka reminded me prior to the recording of this
spk_0 hour, you know, people are already upset given your situation with your child who's sick right now.
spk_0 And you're missing work. You're recording late two weeks of missed work. There may be more down the
spk_0 line where I can't do a show. How could you be so inconsistent? Are you choosing family or
spk_0 you choosing work? And it reminds me of something that was mentioned to me when I was young, very young.
spk_0 And it was, it was my mother who did this actually. And we were visiting a older relative,
spk_0 like a great-grandparent of mine. And I didn't want to go. I was a young kid. I wanted to be with
spk_0 my friends. I wanted to play video games, although we didn't have video games. We had pong, but whatever
spk_0 I had, Atari, I just wanted to, whatever do whatever it is kids do. I wanted to dribble a basketball
spk_0 left to have it. And what I was told is what you do in life is way more important than what you do
spk_0 in death. And it's the concept of would you attend his funeral, the game that I play on
spk_0 Levitard show, where names are given of people and the question is would you go to his funeral?
spk_0 Now, a funnier game in terms of what Levitard will be trying to establish, which is what are my
spk_0 relationships with? How do I measure my relationships? Would you attend their blank in life, their
spk_0 graduation, the party for their child, their retirement ceremony, whatever their hall of fame
spk_0 ceremony, whatever the case may be? Because too often in life, we are way more focused on, hey,
spk_0 who went to the funeral? How many people were at the funeral? I mean, there are certain people who
spk_0 were obsessed with how many people were at the inauguration, but others are obsessed with how many
spk_0 people were at the funeral. And I learned when I was younger is, hey, you know, do things for
spk_0 people when they're living, it's more important than for when they're dying. And when they die, you
spk_0 know, you do things for the family and you do things for the friends or the kids or the whatever,
spk_0 but it's for the living. I get that. And what you're saying is, if that's my view, and I'm going
spk_0 through all this with my family right now, and it's causing me to interrupt work where I have to
spk_0 choose family over work. How could I not be sympathetic or have changed my view of what I think
spk_0 Josh Nellers should be doing? And again, this is pure, unadulterated, journalistic,
spk_0 irresponsibility. I have no way of knowing whether Josh Nellers
spk_0 is not flying with the team because he's having a baby. He's not flying with the team because
spk_0 he didn't show up for the plane. He's not flying with the team because he quit. He's not flying
spk_0 for the team because he got hurt. He's not flying for the team because he has a sick relative,
spk_0 a sick child. I don't know. You'll recall at the time when I said about Daniel Hudson,
spk_0 if Daniel Hudson has a complicated birth of a child, there is a danger. There's a sickness. There
spk_0 is a life. There is a injury, a death, a sickness. It's not even a question. What people don't
spk_0 remember is what I said. And I said it about Josh Nellers again today. Go to the birth. I agree.
spk_0 I mean, believe me, do we ask very nicely of our best players? Please, can you stay away from your
spk_0 wife in January? That said, if a baby is doing October, I want you to go to the birth of your baby.
spk_0 All I said was, and I'm saying it again, if the baby comes out, 10 fingers, 10 toes, no respiratory
spk_0 issues, no one built a cord around the neck, cries, craps, the mom, good survives. In perfect shape,
spk_0 everything's great except you're tired. You can't sleep and you feel a love for someone
spk_0 the likes of which you'll never feel for anyone else ever other than people or your child.
spk_0 Unless all that is the case, stay with your family. I said it about Hudson. I'll say it about Nellers.
spk_0 If Nellers is getting a child induced and do something off day, don't regret saying that. If Nellers
spk_0 child is healthy, and I mean okay after the birth, like you know, believe me if you have kids, you know.
spk_0 If you get a call in the sixth inning, and this is a little thing, Koka, that we didn't talk about
spk_0 enough is when we had decided or not decided when we would get a call that a players had had a
spk_0 problem like a parent dying. Do you tell them in the sixth inning or do wait for the game to end?
spk_0 And we would defer to the agent and to the family with what they wanted. If the agent or the
spk_0 family would say no, no, pull them off the field and tell them we'd pull them off the field.
spk_0 If the agent or the family would say no, let them finish the game and then tell them or have them
spk_0 call. We would defer. We're not making that decision. There's family and agents. That's their job.
spk_0 I mean, most agents would do that, not Scott, but most agents would do it in that way. And we would
spk_0 follow those directions. So if Josh Nellers gets a call on the third inning, hey, that he's got someone
spk_0 who's very, very ill in its emergency. See you later. The game doesn't matter. Even a World Series
spk_0 game. I'm 100% in. So please aggregators, please fans in the chat and people who love nothing
spk_0 personal don't misunderstand what I'm saying. You don't have to agree with what I'm saying,
spk_0 but at least understand the perspective that I'm giving it. Health and I do know that more than
spk_0 anything now, health matters. Want to clear that up, Coco?
spk_0 I'm going to clear up something about Adam Silver too. A couple of things that people are not
spk_0 focused enough about Adam Silver. Number one, Adam Silver is the Commissioner of the National
spk_0 Basketball Association is in charge completely of the WNBA. Number three,
spk_0 Kathy Engelbart, the Commissioner of the WNBA, serves at the pleasure of the NBA and Adam Silver.
spk_0 Number four, the WNBA does not make money, no matter what you think about the sky,
spk_0 rocketing ratings and all the great franchise values and all the exciting stuff that's going on,
spk_0 operationally the WNBA does not make money. Number five, if you think that Adam Silver wants to spend
spk_0 one minute talking about the WNBA and the issue between the players and the Commissioner,
spk_0 you are sorely mistaken. He would much rather talk about aspiration and co-I Leonard and Uncle
spk_0 Dennis and he'd rather get a root canal than talk about Uncle Dennis and co-I Leonard and aspiration.
spk_0 That's the truth. And Adam Silver was forced to deal with both yesterday. He had to talk about the
spk_0 turns out, Pawlatory has found out a lot of stuff that's really annoying to walk to,
spk_0 lifting the investigators. They want it. He's found out a lot of stuff that makes Adam Silver say,
spk_0 oh God, I shouldn't have cut the deal already with bummer. We keep finding out more stuff,
spk_0 Steve, for the love of God. Did you do anything else? Did you invest any more money?
spk_0 Adam Silver already had to walk back his comments that he had never heard of aspiration because
spk_0 we told you nothing personal. Of course, he sort of aspiration. So we walked back.
spk_0 Then it's on to the next issue because that's how life goes when you are under this spell
spk_0 and you're stuck in the web of ptfo, Pawlatory finds out.
spk_0 The All-Star Game. What are the odds that the Intuit dome would be hosting the All-Star Game this
spk_0 year? And the Pawlatory would release a story that would crush Steve Baume ran the Clippers.
spk_0 I'm just curious, what are the odds of that? I mean, small, medium, large. We're talking like
spk_0 a banana sack or the looses piece of pajamas you've ever seen. Like, what are we talking about here?
spk_0 I'll tell you what we're talking about. We're talking about Adam Silver having to go public and say
spk_0 just to be clear. There is no contemplation of moving the All-Star Game.
spk_0 No matter what happens with the investigation, no matter what happens with Steve Baume.
spk_0 The reason why I was so sure about that, and I either mentioned it on a Pawlatory finds out
spk_0 or nothing personal show. The reason why I knew is that to move an All-Star Game is so much harder
spk_0 than you think. To put on an All-Star Game and NBA All-Star Weekend, it doesn't come together in
spk_0 a week or a month or a year. It is a multi-year process involving numerous branches of government,
spk_0 involving numerous branches of civilian leadership, civic leadership, religious leadership,
spk_0 financial leadership, business leadership, sports leadership. All of these people work together
spk_0 to do All-Star Games. The NBA All-Star Weekend is an event, and I mean an event if you've never
spk_0 been to one, which I've never been. I just know people who are paid to go to those things,
spk_0 and they all say they're unbelievable events. So I take your word for it.
spk_0 There's no time. Do you know what's October right now?
spk_0 Koka, can I get a date for the All-Star Game, but I'll bet you a dollar it's in February.
spk_0 Just that's my hunch that the NBA All-Star Games in February. Am I close? He'll check.
spk_0 February 15th. November, December, January, February. That's only four months.
spk_0 You think they're going to start to identify a new place, secure all the hotels and
spk_0 convention center space required. Make sure the arena is available. Make sure that there's
spk_0 opportunities for all of the community events that happen around the All-Star Game for the photo
spk_0 ops with the commissioner and players and the owner of the team. And you think that they're
spk_0 going to put that together in a matter of four months. Forget about it.
spk_0 So here's what you do if you're the NBA. You pay attention to what I said, and then you do it,
spk_0 which is just make the investigation last past the All-Star Game. That's all you have to do.
spk_0 Because then you don't have to announce the findings of the investigation into the fact that
spk_0 the Clippers committed salary cap circumvention. You don't have to submit the report, read the
spk_0 report out loud or say there was no report and go full Roderick Adele. You can eliminate the
spk_0 distraction. You can come out right now and say we do not expect this investigation to be over
spk_0 in the short term. Number two, we are not moving the All-Star Game. Number three, if something comes
spk_0 up, we'll deal with it then. Now what do we mean by that? If Steve Balmer goes full Donald
spk_0 Sterling or full Marge shot, he's gone. It's measured in days. That's the prognosis. It's not
spk_0 measured in a fine suspension, a loss of draft picks, the voiding of a player contract. It is
spk_0 measured in how quickly you're out of the game. And then it doesn't matter that the All-Star Game
spk_0 is in Los Angeles. It doesn't matter what time of year it is. If you go full, Donald Sterling,
spk_0 Adam Silver will act and you'll be done. This financial impropriety that Steve Balmer has undertook
spk_0 to circumvent the salary cap, much of the dismay should grin and absolute ignorance of Mark Cuban.
spk_0 All of that is say we're talking about money, we're talking about politics, we're talking about
spk_0 collective bargaining. We are not talking life and death. We are not talking something that would
spk_0 make even a non-Basketball fans hair or sand on the back of their neck. We're not talking races
spk_0 and we're not talking hate. We're talking financial crime, which most people recognize exist and
spk_0 they don't really care all that much about. It's not like Clipper fans are standing up like
spk_0 Barça supporters and crying foul or Liverpool supporters and saying, sell the team, Mr. Hicks.
spk_0 Nicely, not so nice how they do it. So Adam Silver was forced into this position
spk_0 where he has to in advance tell the austral game is in moving because it's not and then he had
spk_0 to talk about the WNBA and the fight that's going on between Collier and the commissioner
spk_0 and the commissioner's office. As a quick reminder, we covered this last week,
spk_0 two weeks ago, we covered it before my two week break, I believe. There was a statement,
spk_0 a four-minute statement by WNBA player, a really good one about referees and about leadership
spk_0 about the commissioner basically saying the commissioner's terrible leadership is terrible
spk_0 and it's a nightmare. And then there was a rumor that the commissioner is going to lose her job
spk_0 and not to laugh through the collective bargaining negotiations. But now Adam Silver stood up.
spk_0 Adam Silver stood up and said,
spk_0 Hey Adam, there's no question that the WNBA is going through growing pains and it's unfortunate
spk_0 that it's coming just at their most important games, you know, they're in the finals and their
spk_0 finals are on right now. I'll bet you dollar you can't name the teams in the finals and what the
spk_0 score was of game one. Adam Silver said we've had two fantastic games so far. We want to
spk_0 celebrate the game.
spk_0 Kathy Engelberg has presided over historic growth in the league, but there's no question
spk_0 that there's issues that we need to address with our players.
spk_0 Did you hear Adam Silver say our players are not their players? I'm just curious.
spk_0 Did you hear the use of our, you think that was a mistake? You're going to question whether the
spk_0 NBA rules the WNBA and allocates the broadcast deals and funds all their losses. You still want to
spk_0 question it? There's issues that we need to address with our players, not just economic.
spk_0 There's relationship issues as well. I'm confident we can fix those over time and this
spk_0 league can continue to be on the rocket trajectory that it's on right now. Wait, what's Silver
spk_0 talking about? The NBA? Nope, he's talking about the WNBA. Adam Silver does not want to be the
spk_0 spokesman for the WNBA, which is why he named a commissioner figurehead to start with.
spk_0 The whole purpose was so that the NBA could have some distance. The NBA is so gobsmacked in the
spk_0 middle of this WNBA stuff that it's like they're holding on to some sort of rabbit dog as it
spk_0 flails toward a prey. And all Adam Silver wants you to know is I hear you. He wants to be the
spk_0 People's Commissioner. I know that you're all upset. It's like what he would say to the players
spk_0 if he met them, the women players if he walked into a clubhouse. He would say, keep going.
spk_0 Would remind me a little David Stratheur in a league of their own. He would come in and be
spk_0 raw, raw. Let's go. You're doing great. And then behind the scenes say, hey, we're going to have
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spk_0 has come for the W MBA to disappear. Caitlin Clark or no Caitlin Clark, you've missed the whole thing.
spk_0 The fact that MBA owners are willing to continue to fund the W MBA where you're a throwing good
spk_0 money after bad until Caitlin Clark could show up and then you say, wait a minute, maybe we can
spk_0 make some back on expansion fees and maybe we can even get profitable, profitable as though that's
spk_0 one of George Collins words you can't say on radio, profitable. We'll see what happens, but I'll
spk_0 give you a hint. It's not an official wait to see, Coco. I don't want to crowd the document with
spk_0 too many wait to cease. Don't we have one or two already? I don't want to crowd the document,
spk_0 but you can bet the Kathy Engelbert will not be the commissioner of the W MBA when they start
spk_0 planning again after the work stoppage that's coming. There is going to have to be a change,
spk_0 and then you can further bet and clip it that it will not be Adam Silver firing Kathy Engelbert.
spk_0 It will be Kathy residing from her position in quote the best interest of continuing what we
spk_0 started and making this league the dominant women's professional league in America with the best
spk_0 players. And rival to want to buy us or a week about you. I'm so happy we get to talk hockey now,
spk_0 Coco. Now people don't think I talk hockey enough, but the truth is I love talking hockey.
spk_0 Who wouldn't love talking hockey? The Panthers are going for three in a row and I must tell you I am
spk_0 obsessed with all of these teams and their new championship rings. I read all about every ring of
spk_0 all the top four sports, the number of diamonds, where the diamonds are, what sort of cool thing they're
spk_0 doing. What are the sides look like? What does the top look like? What does the bottom look like?
spk_0 It was only 22 years ago when I'm working with the owner and we're looking at designs for a ring
spk_0 and you are going through. I still have it, Coco, somewhere. The wax
spk_0 model of what a ring could look like of ones we went with and ones we didn't go with. The process that it takes,
spk_0 the Panthers going for three is unbelievable even with the major injury they had to one of their
spk_0 best players from last season who will be out for this whole season. And if hockey is starting again,
spk_0 that means all of Canada. I know you're watching because the numbers have been so good from Canada. Thank
spk_0 you. I'd like all of you in Canada to stand up, put your arms in the air and yell, let's go Canada,
spk_0 let's go Canada. Can Edmonton finally get over the hump and be the team they were supposed to be
spk_0 from that small sleepy city where they have somehow sprung, sprung, shung, sheldon. What's the word?
spk_0 Where they have somehow sprung, sprinkled, cocoa. You don't know because I can't even know what my
spk_0 thought was on that. What word was I trying to say and why? Ah, Edmonton has been and carried the
spk_0 hope of the whole country on its back for a couple of years because they've got the best player in
spk_0 the game, Conor McDavid. They've made the Stanley Cup. I believe the Panthers beat him both times
spk_0 in this run of Stanley Cups. News came out yesterday that blew me away on a non-windy day.
spk_0 I get the normal text from Coke or Jack in the chat, keep me up to date while I'm somewhat distracted
spk_0 by hell and Conor McDavid has signed a two year, $25 million extension with the Edmonton Oilers.
spk_0 And I said, do you mean 12 year, 250? No, two years, 25. Hold on, what's happening? Time to dig deeper so
spk_0 we can inform you what the hell's going on with Conor McDavid taking such a below average extension
spk_0 and it being for two years. Guess why? He's going to be a free agent in two years.
spk_0 An unrestricted free agent. Well, David, that's silly of you because he was an unrestricted free agent now.
spk_0 True, but he wants to win an Edmonton. He wants to be part of Canada hoisting the Cup for the first
spk_0 time since the Canadians back in the summfings. See, their 90s or 2000s can't remember the last cup.
spk_0 I want to say it was back at 93, but that may be wrong, but you can check it on your own,
spk_0 because I'm not going to do it right now live. But suffice it to say it's been a hell of a long time
spk_0 since the Canadian team won the Cup. Edmonton had that dynasty with Messier and Gretzky and the tall
spk_0 guy with dark curly hair. Oh my god. What's the name of the third major guy from all the Edmonton
spk_0 Stanley Cup? This is what I need the chat just to help me. Please let me know in my ear. It was
spk_0 Gretzky, it was Messier and it was blank and I don't mean grandfure. I mean a really tall guy.
spk_0 Yeah, whatever. Sorry, that is again the force of the phone. Okay.
spk_0 Oh, do you know what I did, Coco? Here's a funny thing that I have to tell you about. I have my
spk_0 phone on silent, but I put members of my immediate family on something called emergency bypass.
spk_0 So even when the phone is on silent, I would still hear the ring or the beep and I've never done
spk_0 that before and I don't undo it for shows, but it occurs to me that silencing the phone during a
spk_0 show now only helps with everybody else trying to reach me, not knowing that I may be recording at
spk_0 a time when they think I'm not recording because they know I always recorded seven to eight 43.
spk_0 So the odds are when you're recording from nine to 1043 that more people are going to text recall.
spk_0 It turns out that those people who have are silenced and I see all of them right now and I
spk_0 haven't addressed them and I haven't touched them, but that one came through because it was family.
spk_0 I don't know what to do about that, Coco. You can't silence emergency bypass. That's all
spk_0 purpose of emergency bypass. And then I got to look and then I don't remember what I'm talking
spk_0 about. Conor McDavid. What? Paul coffee. How did you don't tell me you knew that, Coco?
spk_0 The chat knew it. Chat, you guys are awesome. You guys know stuff that Coco doesn't know and I
spk_0 appreciate that. That was a fearsome threesome. So Edmonton, this town in Canada used to win cups.
spk_0 Now they have a chance to win cups again. They've lost two cups in a row, but Conor McDavid
spk_0 took a discount. He picked loyalty over money, but he also got himself flexibility.
spk_0 He outbronson to Bronson by taking 12 and a half million dollars a year for two years,
spk_0 making it so that can be eight four six nine. Conor McDavid took 25 million over two years
spk_0 in an effort to keep the championship window alive for the Edmonton Oilers.
spk_0 There's an opportunity now to continue to surround the best player and hockey with pieces that
spk_0 will be required to bring the first daily cup to Canada in over a generation.
spk_0 Conor McDavid should not be felt sorry for, nor do you need to applaud his action. Conor McDavid
spk_0 outbronsoned, Jalen Bronson. Will it work? We'll wait to see, but what will work is no matter
spk_0 what happens. He said to Edmonton, two years, baby, Edmonton said, you should be on three four five,
spk_0 we love you, man, we want you to. That's what I'm giving you. Two years. You show me what you're
spk_0 spending. You show me who we're bringing on. And guess what? I'm part of that. So the GM stand
spk_0 moment is so happy. He's whistling, Dixie out of his took us. It's obvious what he wants. He wants
spk_0 to win his actions have shown that. We're not building to five years from now to be a good team.
spk_0 It's full steam ahead right now. Hell yeah. I don't mind it when players take discounts to win. I
spk_0 really don't, but let's not give him the same sort of patronage yet. Because in two years when
spk_0 he's a free agent, he's taking the money as he should. If Edmonton doesn't win a cup in the next
spk_0 two years, he's leaving Edmonton. If Edmonton does win the cup in the next two years, he's leaving
spk_0 Edmonton because Conor McDavid is going to take his talents to South Beach. That's funny if it
spk_0 true. Conor McDavid is going to take his talent somewhere. It could be broward, but somewhere
spk_0 and he's going to get a monster sized deal to do it. But for the next two years, it's game on for Edmonton.
spk_0 And I wanted to give him a shout out. It's not three years. It's a two year deal.
spk_0 He did a two year extension. He is a free agent in 28, Coco. I'm telling you I got that right.
spk_0 You can check it, but he's a free agent in 28. He's checking it right now. What year are we now?
spk_0 26. He's a free agent. Oh, we're in 25. All right. Coco, do it again.
spk_0 All right. Do it again. We'll do it again. You're telling me we can't start that segment over.
spk_0 I'm going to start just that last line over. All I did was say it's two years from now. It's
spk_0 two year extension that he signed. So it's three years from now. It's the same concept.
spk_0 There'll still be like 28 years old as a free agent, which is the point of what I was saying,
spk_0 Coco. All I want to do is let the audience understand that what Conor McDavid did has a window
spk_0 for Edmonton, but then he's still going to get his that it's amazing what he did. You want your
spk_0 players to do that. It helps you as a GM, but you got major pressure to do it now. That's all I
spk_0 wanted to say. I wanted to say that Conor McDavid has not done something that stops him. I mean,
spk_0 you could argue Tom Brady did it every year, but didn't do something that would stop him from
spk_0 cashing in. And my point is he's going to cash it. Those were my points. If you want me to do it
spk_0 again, I'll do it again, but those are my points. As a matter of fact, Coco, instead of doing it
spk_0 again, I'll triple that and do a wait to see. I'm going to do a long term. This is stupid. I'm
spk_0 not doing that. Forget it. I was going to do a long term wait to see out of nowhere that McDavid
spk_0 will leave Edmonton after this extension. Not doing it. You're not going to beat me down, Coco.
spk_0 It's not working. What are you doing today at one o'clock? Is that the time, Coco?
spk_0 Wouldn't have been good if we were starting the LeBron James segment about his second decision.
spk_0 If before I started the segment, I knew exactly what time we should be focused.
spk_0 New and Eastern. That's the time. LeBron James sent out a tweet that said the decision of all
spk_0 decisions, October 7th, 12 PM Eastern, hashtag the second decision. And it shows him sitting as though
spk_0 he were doing the first decision, which as you know, I'll never forget because I was on the road
spk_0 with the team when LeBron James decided to take his talents to South Beach. And I knew that was it.
spk_0 The Marlins were screwed. Now we did get to watch the brought up close. We certainly did. That was fun.
spk_0 We did get to see the he go to four straight finals and win two of them. That was fun. If you
spk_0 weren't working for the Marlins, you're just a South Floridian friend of the family. You're in heaven.
spk_0 What do you think this decision is? I think he's going to retire. I think he's going to
spk_0 announce his retirement now or announced it for after the season. There's people who are
spk_0 speculating it may just be an advertisement for Amazon Prime Day where his decision is to go with
spk_0 whatever baggies over court size over gallon size, where it may be he's doing a commercial for it's
spk_0 just not butter. And he's choosing Marjorin. Maybe he's decided to go vegan to try to keep up with
spk_0 Bronnie. That'd be a big decision because that's a pain in the neck unless you have a private chef.
spk_0 What I laughed at when I saw that and I laughed at a lot of things. I laughed at LeBron James
spk_0 and his ability to lean in to his mistakes. I have great respect for that. Great respect.
spk_0 The decision part one, what he did with Jim Gray all those years ago, it didn't exactly come off
spk_0 the way he had hoped. It didn't exactly work in that way though. The ratings were through the roof.
spk_0 Everyone was watching it. It was the biggest deal since Michael Jordan's facts back. Baby.
spk_0 But man, he got raped over the coast. There is no way that this is not tongue and cheek.
spk_0 There is no way that he's announcing something of note. It's gotta be an ad. It's gotta be a joke.
spk_0 It's gotta be promotion. It's gotta be for money. And you know what? If you're gonna have to self-deprecate
spk_0 and revisit a chapter, you'd rather not revisit and you're gonna get paid so you can waste money
spk_0 on some film productions that are super hard to make money on. I'm in. Fund them all. I like seeing the art.
spk_0 Do it. Do it. LeBron. I am not in any way a shame to tell you that if I were John Skipper and
spk_0 still running the SPN, I'd be calling up LeBron and say, we want it on our network.
spk_0 Forget doing it on social media. Forget your social media. We'll program it. We'll put it in the
spk_0 middle of the damn Pat McAfee show if we have to. Let's do this. So by the time you listen to this,
spk_0 you may know what it is, but I promise you, we're recording this before 12 PM Eastern and no one
spk_0 really knows what it is. Except for the people who decided that they would buy game tickets
spk_0 to the Utah Jazz and Los Angeles Lakers game. Next April. You may say to yourself, how does that
spk_0 even mix? What are you talking about? And I would say to you, do you know why people are buying
spk_0 jazz Lakers tickets right now? Because that's the final game of the regular season, what could be LeBron
spk_0 James' final game if his second decision is to retire and they don't make the playoffs or the
spk_0 play internment because they stink so badly with Luca as the main focus. So Coco, can you go to
spk_0 our friends at DraftKings and tell me the Lakers championship title odds. What are they ranked at?
spk_0 I'm going to say they are ranked 14th out of all the NBA teams in odds to win a title. That's my
spk_0 guess. But when Coco, what are they ranked? No way. They're the sixth highest odds to win the NBA
spk_0 title and people are buying tickets to a jazz game. I think it'll be his final game. Yet they're the
spk_0 sixth highest best odds to win, which means there'll be other home games during the playoffs.
spk_0 I'm sorry. Am I missing something? The whole ticket stop you're looking for that you're not
spk_0 going to get a hard ticket of except in a crazy case is that you want to be in his final game.
spk_0 Are you thinking there's going to be a ceremony in the final game before the playoffs?
spk_0 Like they'll retire as Jersey while he's still playing. They'll play a video. They'll bring back
spk_0 all sorts of players he played with. It'll come de-weight and tie Lou and Kai re-urving and they'll
spk_0 all line up and they'll compliment him on his career when they're trying to make a playoff run.
spk_0 Come on. Can you believe these tickets? The cheapest get-in ticket for the final regular season
spk_0 game between the jazz and Lakers is now $760. It's impossible to believe because you can find tickets
spk_0 at crypto.com for that game against the jazz before this second decision stuff for $82.
spk_0 So am I wrong to tie these two concepts together? The get-in price before LeBron's tweet is $82.
spk_0 Get-in price after LeBron's tweet $760. What am I missing?
spk_0 Are these insider trading? Are we knowing for sure that all these brilliant days who are buying tickets
spk_0 on the second market and who are listing their tickets on the after market? Secondary market?
spk_0 That they've got better information right now. Am I in any way to believe that it is possible
spk_0 that the fans of the Lakers somehow are going to find their way clear to know what LeBron James
spk_0 is doing. Forget it. If you are one of the people who's bought these expensive tickets to jazz
spk_0 Lakers, the jokes on you and you're about 90 minutes away from finding out, I promise.
spk_0 I mean, I don't promise. What do I know? I promise.
spk_0 I'm a lawsuit guy. I am. Now, I'm not litigious. That's not accurate, actually. There are so many times
spk_0 in my life I could have been litigious so many times. So many things I could have done
spk_0 where you bring up a lawsuit could bring up a lawsuit could I've threatened lawsuits for sure.
spk_0 I've been sued for sure, but I would not call myself litigious. What I do love is looking at lawsuits,
spk_0 understanding them. I love it so much when people go to court,
spk_0 when they're doing it for PR reasons. Do you know, Coco, one of my favorite segments on the show
spk_0 is when we explain the John Groot and lawsuit against the NFL. And then we explained why people sue
spk_0 and then we explained how hard it is to settle a case when someone's not suing for money. They're
spk_0 suing for something else like fame, where they're suing to be made whole, not financially, but
spk_0 spiritually or in terms of curating or in terms of reputational hits that can take place, or
spk_0 sometimes it's just downright hatred. The John Groot and NFL lawsuit is continuing. We could be
spk_0 heading toward multiple stories about this in the coming days and weeks because the NFL has a
spk_0 real problem as I told you that they can't settle this case because Groot and won't settle
spk_0 and the courts aren't stopping this case from proceeding, which is going to make the NFL very angry.
spk_0 But I like lawsuits. Yesterday, the city of Cleveland did something. Hello, Cleveland.
spk_0 Cleveland.
spk_0 W P R K
spk_0 in Cleveland. Do you know what just happened? Your city. Are you living in the city of Cleveland?
spk_0 Are you thinking the decision is coming that LeBron James is coming back to the Cavaliers
spk_0 to end his career? The city of Cleveland has filed a special appeal, basically a lawsuit
spk_0 and they're filing it against the Ohio Department of Transportation. Cleveland is Sui No Hio.
spk_0 Cleveland, Ohio is Sui No Hio. It's an internal fight. It's like owner of the owner.
spk_0 Oh, I dig it because it means that something rotten is happening in the state of Ohio.
spk_0 And here's the backstory. And we you know about this.
spk_0 Do you remember that the city of Cleveland wanted the Browns to stay in the city of Cleveland,
spk_0 but the Browns now want to move to Brook Park, which is outside the city of Cleveland.
spk_0 And then the city of Cleveland said, wait a minute, Cleveland, you can't do that.
spk_0 There's something called the Modell Law and the Modell Law simply states that you are not
spk_0 allowed to move out of the city of Cleveland without giving people inside the city of Cleveland an
spk_0 opportunity to buy your team and get a deal done inside the city of Cleveland. And the Cleveland
spk_0 Browns ownership said, really, really, you think that I'm so dumb that I signed to Sean Watson for
spk_0 $230 million, but I don't pay attention to not violating the Modell Law. Wait, what was that again?
spk_0 I can't remember it. Jimmy's wife and child said, what was that?
spk_0 But they went forward with Brook Park and they're showing all this sort of thing.
spk_0 But they're building near an airport. I know about these things. Marlon's Park is built near
spk_0 Miami International Airport. We needed to get permission from the Florida Department of Transportation,
spk_0 the people who run the airport authority, the local governments because we needed to make sure
spk_0 that our ballpark was not in the flight plan. We needed to make sure that the height of the ballpark
spk_0 was not going to be a problem to flights because the home behold as much as you like your football and
spk_0 baseball and basketball and apple pie, flight plans, glide slopes happen to be more important.
spk_0 So cut to the Ohio Department of Transportation tells the Cleveland Brown, sorry, dude,
spk_0 you're trying to build a 221 foot stadium. That's too high. You're only allowed, basically,
spk_0 121 plus 42. You're allowed 163. I don't think that's right.
spk_0 It is right. 163. That's the law. You can go 163 feet above, but you can't go to 21.
spk_0 You're 58 feet too high. Your stadium can't be that high. Think about football stadiums and
spk_0 baseball dome stadiums. They have to be high enough that only Aaron Judge can hit the roof.
spk_0 You can't build one. We're all of a sudden there's a roof closed and then some guy punts it
spk_0 or one of those 50 yard field goals or one of those bombs by any quarterback now is in danger of
spk_0 hitting the roof. It's a thing. So guess what? The Ohio Department of Transportation said,
spk_0 sorry, no go. Then out of nowhere on September 18th, the Ohio Department of Transportation said
spk_0 that the stadium will exceed the federal height limits, but granted a waiver
spk_0 after concluding the project would not alter flight operations at Cleveland's airport.
spk_0 So all of a sudden, wouldn't you know it? That when permits were not going to be granted for
spk_0 211 foot high stadium. The Ohio Department of Transportation said, you know what? Change my mind.
spk_0 We'll give you an exception. So the city of Cleveland decided today, or this is yesterday,
spk_0 here's what we're going to do. We're suing them because we're saying how can that be? How can it be
spk_0 that you are willing to give an exception now? And we're talking safety. We're talking the public
spk_0 good and that's how much you're trying to screw the city of Cleveland. It's the greatest argument of all.
spk_0 The city of Cleveland is arguing the Ohio Department of Transportation is ready for death and
spk_0 destruction as long as Jimmy has them can keep having the opportunity to sign to Sean Watson. It's
spk_0 brilliant. Now the city of Cleveland is putting their foot in the sand saying the Jimmy has them
spk_0 and the Browns, you think we're going down? You think we're going to stop at the Modella? We're
spk_0 going to try to get you everywhere. We're going to get you with permitting. You may not need it. We're
spk_0 going to try. We're going to figure out on game days how to make it the no one from the city of
spk_0 Cleveland leaving get to your games. Do you care? Maybe not. We're going to make sure that you can't
spk_0 get camera angles because every single home game, we're going to make sure that we're dropping
spk_0 fart bombs all over the tailgators. Who knows what the city of Cleveland can do in terms of the
spk_0 level of penniness? But this appeal against the Department of Transportation, how do you think it's
spk_0 going to go? The city of Cleveland would have to go in and say, sorry folks, I don't think the
spk_0 Department of Transportation understood you can't have a stadium that high and they're going to show
spk_0 like model airplanes in the glide slope landing at Hopkins International Airport and like landing
spk_0 on one foot, one wing or one wheel. Is that what they're going to go into court and say,
spk_0 or are they going to wedge some sort of side deal? You got to love those. What exactly does
spk_0 Haslam promise you because I know what he promised me? He promised me $28 million over four years
spk_0 on a no-show deal where they don't even have to do commercials for the city of Cleveland Commerce
spk_0 Department chamber. God, that would have been so smooth. That just would have been a chef's kiss if
spk_0 I had nailed it. Stick the landing, Samson. We'll see how that lawsuit goes. I have my own feeling now
spk_0 it's going to go. I want to end with something that's been bothering all of you and Coke and I
spk_0 talked about it. I don't remember when, Coke, when did you and I talk about World Cup ticket prices?
spk_0 Was it just last Friday, like four days ago, when you were so angry that you're being priced out
spk_0 of every game possible? Well, do you know that now if you just would fly back home to where you live in
spk_0 Florida, if you can't afford a World Cup game and you have no interest in seeing Messy, I don't
spk_0 know why you'd have no interest in his new ballpark in a deal that's not yet announced but
spk_0 clearly clearly done according to all reports, you have a chance to go watch a league game.
spk_0 How cool is that that you can watch in Miami at Barcelona game? Why wouldn't you want to do it?
spk_0 Forget Camp New, you don't have to do it. Well, this is actually a far bigger deal than I'm making it
spk_0 and I'm purposely making my voice very calm, very monotone-like because you waif it did something that
spk_0 makes me laugh so hard that we wanted to just top it. You can't top this. Have you ever made a decision
spk_0 where right after the decision you regret it? Let me try to put that in words that we can all understand.
spk_0 How often have you made a decision that right away you look and you say, oh, probably shouldn't have done
spk_0 that? Or you open your eyes in the morning and say, oh, not what I expected. Or you show up to work
spk_0 the next day and you say, hmm, didn't think that was my job. Or you walk into a restaurant or a movie
spk_0 or a trip, myriad things. Make a decision and then comes the regret. How much time is there between
spk_0 the decision and the regret? Aren't you trying to get the most time possible so you could have at
spk_0 least some time with the decision where you are in favor of the decision you made? How often you make
spk_0 a decision in the next second? There's got to be, I mean, listen, some people are two seconds, but
spk_0 generally there's time between decision and regret. Not you, AFA. You AFA approved a landmark move here.
spk_0 There are European leagues like the Spanish La Liga who are now going to be allowed on a case-by-case
spk_0 basis to play games away from the domestic site of their teams. It's not just Miami, there's going to be
spk_0 a game in Perth, Australia between Milan and Como. So the question is, when Barcelona shows up to Miami,
spk_0 how many Barcelona fans will join them? Will fans travel the way Packers fans travel or Cowboys fan
spk_0 or Niners fans? Does La Liga care? No. Do you think Roger Gidele is interested in how many people
spk_0 fly to watch Jacksonville from Jacksonville playing London? He may say he does, but he doesn't.
spk_0 Where Roger Gidele cares about is that people from London, people from Paris, people from Bartholona
spk_0 people from Milan, people from Berlin, they fly to see the games because he's trying to build the sport
spk_0 in Europe, all of Europe. Those are the people he wants. La Liga is doing what they should be doing.
spk_0 They are looking for alternate sources of revenue. They are looking for ways to expand the
spk_0 reach of their game in a way that you may argue they don't need to expand the reach of their game.
spk_0 We love the game of soccer here in the United States, but that doesn't put money in the pockets of
spk_0 the Liga and the teams. Do you think Stephen Ross is getting this game for free?
spk_0 Do you think the teams are not getting paid extra money? And I mean a lot to play this game
spk_0 in Miami? It's a straight move to add current day dollars to the pockets of these teams.
spk_0 And then on top of that, build a base that isn't just confined to an area. The MLA does want to do it.
spk_0 NFL MLB, why do you think La Liga would be different? They clearly are in it for one reason. God bless them.
spk_0 La Liga is coming to Miami and it's just business. Sorry fans of Barcelona, you're missing a home game.
spk_0 This is nothing personal.