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439: Sound Healing’s Power to Calm and Focus the Mind | John Bamber
In this episode of the Ancient Health Podcast, Dr. Chris Motley welcomes John Bamber, owner of Wave Watch, to discuss the transformative power of sound healing and frequency medicine. They explore how...
439: Sound Healing’s Power to Calm and Focus the Mind | John Bamber
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Speaker B
Welcome to the Ancient Health Podcast where East meets west in the world of Medicine. I'm Dr. Chris Motley and here we explore how modern Western science and traditional Eastern wisdom come together to unlock the body's full healing potential. Each week we'll dive into powerful tools, techniques and approaches from both sides of the world to help you optimize your health and live with vitality. Let's bridge the gap between ancient practices and cutting edge medicine. Let's get started.
Speaker C
Hello friends.
Speaker B
Welcome to the Ancient Health Podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Chris Motley. Today I have my good friend John Bamber here who is from Chattanooga, went to school here in Nashville and he is one of the main guys. He's the owner of Wave Watch, him and his family. And Wave Watch is this really great watch that he's wearing right now. And on the podcast, you guys know that we do talk about free frequency medicine, we talk about harmonics. I do try to do my best to describe it. But one thing for certain though, I believe frequencies and the way they can put technology into helping the body is one of the waves of the future. And one thing I'm really encouraged by is your watch. So thank you so much, my friend, for joining us today.
Speaker C
Oh, well, I'm so glad to be here and it really wonderful to join you on this and Just so great to be back in Nashville.
Speaker B
Oh, yeah. So you went to school here?
Speaker C
Yes, I went to Belmont, right down the street.
Speaker B
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C
So it's. It's great to be back and. Yeah.
Speaker B
And you're here. I remember when we first met. I really mean in my heart of hearts that you meet a lot of people in the health world, but I could tell that you really had a good heart, and I'm not just trying to blow your head up. Your brother is very kind, and your mom is, too, and. And I could tell when we were conversing about the watch, it was more than a watch to you. It really is. I could tell that your heart wanted to help individuals.
Speaker C
Yeah.
Speaker B
So before we start into this, remember, guys, frequency medicine, really great technology, but their heart is helping people, and that's why I really loved this podcast. So.
Speaker C
Yeah, so. So my mother is actually the inventor of the Wave watch, and she got into alternative medicine about 20 years ago. She came into it from a kind of holistic side, looking at more on the breast cancer prevention side of things.
Speaker B
Really?
Speaker C
Yes. And so basically, my mother, Linda, her sister and her mother, so my grandmother and my aunt, they were both diagnosed with breast cancer within a few months of each other.
Speaker B
Oh, wow.
Speaker C
And so my mother then went to her doctor, and he said, oh, well, you've definitely got to get a double mastectomy stat right now. And she said, hold the phone. Hold on, buddy. And so that sent her on a deep dive. And through that, she actually kind of started a business in regards to thermography. And then she was looking at different things in regards to prevention, whether it was detoxing diet, even the skincare products that we use. And so she actually has a small set of franchises. And it's. You know, this is pretty funny, but it's. It's an acronym called bras, which is Breast Research, Awareness and Support. You know, nice acronym there.
Speaker B
No, I really like. Okay, get bras. Yeah.
Speaker C
Yes. And then she went on to get her ND certification. And, you know, so. So she's been in this world for about 20 years. Wow. And then she was using a device. There's all sorts of different frequency type devices, but hers was more on the diagnostic side of things. And so I remember when she first got this, it was like a $30,000 machine, and she was being. And she was testing through my meridians, which you know, all about. And she's. You know, she's this computer, and it would say, she's like, john, you're allergic to camel hair. I'm like, okay, that's very oddly specific. Thank you.
Speaker B
Camel hair.
Speaker C
And then she said, and this is like 15 years ago, she said. She's like, hey, your liver's kind of on the fritz right now. And this is where, like, it was an aha moment for me with frequency medicine. And basically what was happening was I was on. I had been prescribed a drug for a small skin rash, and I was on my third round of it. This drug is outlawed in Europe because it messes up your liver. It's called ketoconazole. And I had no idea that it was messing with my liver. But this machine picks it up, this frequency machine picks it up. And I was like, okay. So then we went on this route, and I was able to, you know, clean up my liver, obviously stop using that medicine, et cetera. And. But that was my aha moment for the power frequencies for diagnosis. So Linda, my mother, she, you know, she's recognizing the same thing, and she's having such great feedback, and she's like, well, if frequencies can diagnose, then why can't we treat with them as well? And obviously, that's a great point. You know, 90 years ago, there's Dr. Royal, Raymond Rife, and he's, you know, kind of considered the father of frequency medicine for a lot of the research that he did. And, you know, it's really, really fascinating stuff. So. So Linda, my mother, she has this idea and really isn't able to bring it into fruition until about five years ago, she brought a watch to market that's actually quite a bit larger than this one.
Speaker B
The square one. That's great. Beautiful.
Speaker C
Yeah. And. And then. So we came out with this one last fall. And so basically, it uses sound. You know, our. Our cells, our bodies at a cellular level have, you know, sound receptors. And. And those sound receptors can bring these frequencies all the way through our body.
Speaker B
So the cell has sound receptors.
Speaker C
Yes, that is what I've come to understand. Yes. We're using the sound on a cellular level to pass through the body, and there's 24,000 different frequencies that are in this watch. And we've. Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker B
I love it.
Speaker C
Yes. And. And so we've actually taken these and had to be a little bit. You know, sometimes with the fda, you got to use some euphemisms. You can't say things too directly, believe it or not. Kind of crazy.
Speaker B
No.
Speaker C
Yeah. And you just have. You just can't really claim super strong things in your advertising and your marketing. What we went Ahead and did was. Was make some kind of FDA compliant playlists of these sound frequencies to treat a variety of things in the body. You know, it's about an hour playlist that shows different things, you know, and for me, this is kind of hilarious. I've always just thought I was a curious person or that I, you know, was always noticing things. But some of my, some of my friends are joking. They're like, I think that you might actually have add and you don't realize. And so believe it or not, you're.
Speaker B
Like, guilty as charged. No, explain.
Speaker C
Yeah. And you know, in this day and age, you know, with the notifications on your phone or computer and while you're working and stuff. So, you know, for example, we have one called Mental Clarity. And that, that's actually one that I'm. And that's actually, you know, a lot of things to help keep our mind on track and energize our brain, but also to combat add, adhd, et cetera. And so just an example of what's inside of some of these playlists or. Wow.
Speaker B
Because with that many frequencies in the watch. So we took, instead of just being diagnostic, you're able to take it. Your mom took the watch and made it where you could actually put sound through the cells through your body and help regulate the body to help with some of these, help with the conditions. So add, adhd. I want to, you know, with your story, like, okay. One of the funny things that one of my friends told me is that in my family line we've had some add and I've always been kind of a calm kid most of my life, but I've noticed that on my desk at work that I'll have like my water, my tea, a coffee. And one of my friends came and he goes, hey. He says, you know, that one of the classic signs and symptoms of ADD is multiple glasses of things. And I just was like, I could probably see that. Yes, yes. So when we're going into creating this watch and creating frequencies, you've told me some tremendous stories about people who have been helped through this. And like when you're talking about people with, have had different types of conditions, you know, and we, we're not saying we treat them, we're just saying like things that you've seen help with symptomatology as well. Can you go over a few of those? Like, one of them you were talking about, like people with strokes and that have had strokes and neurological issues, had people that have had like fatigue in the brain. Can you go over Some of those, because those are really cool.
Speaker C
So when, when my mother Linda was first developing it, she, you know, I mentioned that she had started out on the breast cancer side of things. And so from her clinic or from her, her business, she actually in the development Stage contacted about 30 different women that, and, and said, hey, anyone if they have a lump in their breast, come and we're going to try this out. And she saw some really incredible results from some of those breast lumps going away from like it was pretty, pretty wild. Like 30 different women during the development stages as she was developing, finalizing the development of the watch. So that was, you know, pretty amazing to start with. Yes. And then ironically, because this sounds pretty far fetched, but we've had, and you know, these are testimonials from our customers. This is not me just, you know, saying something. These are people that have reached back out to us and saying, hey, this made a difference in my life. But one of the other strong things is kidney stones.
Speaker B
Really?
Speaker C
Yes. Now not like giant, you know, it's not able to break up giant ones or anything like that, but we've had some really, really tremendous testimonials in regards to kidney stones. You know, especially like if maybe one on the development developmental side as it's, as it's starting to grow before it's got harder.
Speaker B
So like a sludge with some little stones because sometimes people say they will urinate out like sandy gravel. But in that stage, like you say you've seen some people reduce some of those.
Speaker C
Actually the way that you said that, that's actually a lot of the testimonials often referred to.
Speaker B
Yes, they come out because they broke all the stuff up.
Speaker C
So that's one of our most, one of our strongest things. So that's been pretty cool. Now things that I've seen in person was really awesome. We started going to some of these different health conferences and whatnot. And we were at one a few months ago and we started sending a watch out with somebody for an hour or two and saying, hey, just come back. And thankfully the honor system was pretty honorable. So this woman came and her sister kind of dragged her into our booth and she had had essential tremors for about three and a half years. And obviously that's something that's difficult from not being able to a glass of water to write your name. Yes. And so she said, okay, what the heck, it's not going to hurt, we're going to try this out. And so she puts the watch on. And my mother was working with her and it was neat seeing them together. And. And Linda put it on. She put on inflammation, pain and trauma, which actually we've renamed to be. It's called Wave Relief, so.
Speaker B
Wave Relief, yes.
Speaker C
So that's inflammation, pain, and trauma. And so this woman was wearing the watch, and she's on her left hand, and, you know, she had some shakes, and then about two and a half minutes into it, she's. She's kind of doing this. And she said, I really feel something in my pinky. And then all of a sudden, she was rock steady. And, you know, for me, you know, so I spent two decades as a photographer. Really? Yeah. And so for me, I was watching her face, you know. Cause I. You know, with people, I was watching her face. That was my job for two decades. I watch faces, and I'm just kind of zeroed in, and I'm watching her face and her eyes and her expression couldn't believe that she was rock steady. Like, it was, you know, her mind and her eyes, like, not even believing that as well. And so, you know, that just kept going and kept going and that, you know, I mean, just seeing her, you know, and seeing her face after she realized, hey, this is true. This is happening. This is going well. And then. Yeah. So she obviously ended up buying one at the show. Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker B
I mean, I'd be like, I'll take five. Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker C
But. But that was. That was amazing, you know, and for me, you know, I mentioned offhand that I had had another career. There was a moment where my brother, he was a business professor for more than a decade.
Speaker B
Really?
Speaker C
Yes, actually down the street at Lipscomb.
Speaker B
He was a business. Okay, so you guys been. Okay, so you've been in different industries before you got in here.
Speaker C
Exactly. But there was a moment for me where I had to say, you know, am I going to, you know, call it quits with this other career and jump in full steam with Wavewatch, with this family business? And I'll tell you, one of the one things that was. It was one of the things that added to it, that would. Made me make that leap was I had given. I had given a wave watch to this woman that I worked quite a bit with who suffered from migraines. And, you know, sometimes people say something just to be nice, like, oh, you know, I. Oh, that was a good hamburger. And, you know, or, you know, like, whatever, or, oh, that's a great cup of coffee. But they don't really mean it. They're just saying it.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker C
Okay. So I had reached back out she'd had it for about three years for migraines. And I said, tell me truthfully, is it really making a difference in your life? And the answer was 100%. And like, and you know, this is somebody that has no. It was just that moment that like, I knew that she had no dog in the. In the hunt, so they say in the. Here in the south. Or, you know, there was, there was nothing other than yes, it makes a huge difference in my life. And for me that was, that was one of those other things, you know, besides getting to a. Work with my family and you know, chase a dream and, you know, grow something. But knowing that on a, on a one to one, on a personal level, it's helping people in their lives. That, that was for me, like, hey, you know, it's making a difference for, for this person's migraines. And believe it or not, we hired that lady and she's working on a customer service.
Speaker B
Really?
Speaker C
Yeah, yeah. So I sniped her and you know, was able to. But she's a great. Just been a great friend.
Speaker B
Testimonial.
Speaker C
Exactly for that.
Speaker B
So with tremors and different conditions, it is getting more popular because Chinese medicine has gotten more popular and they talk about frequency medicine. And one thing I appreciate is that there's a lot of talk and some individuals say, well, frequency medicine now can be used kind of flippantly. And the one thing that I appreciate is that you're putting into action about the sound and the vibration that goes through the body. So could you describe. So the watch is here. So is it that the sound is being produced by the watch and it's just being like you'll set the watch to it and just shoots the sound right into your skin. Is that what it.
Speaker C
Yes, basically. And here I'll even take this off just to kind of show it.
Speaker B
And guys, the reason I truly, I'm just. A quick side note is that my mom's had respiratory stuff and she's had some neurological stuff because my mom had a stroke a few years ago and John was so kind and John had told me the settings to put on there and we put that on my mom and she was talking to my family, the caregivers, myself, and she would. She was recalling just some things that. Because she usually gets pretty tired, we've been doing some different things on her. And even her caretakers were like, what's going on? You know, like why she. She's talking about her childhood, talking about. And I was like, boom. So anyway, side note, guys go Ahead, I'm gonna show it. This is great.
Speaker C
So basically it, it's water resistant. And these are, these are speakers that go straight on into your skin. And this is just the charging the area where the, the, the device charges. But yes, these are speakers that are meant to go straight into your skin. And with our original device, the sound will come out a little bit more, but it's really more directed straight into your skin. It's not necessarily something you have to hear with your ears, whether your body feels at a cellular level. I was going to tell you something super interesting. So you'd recommended a great book to me about tcm, about traditional Chinese medicine. Wood becomes water.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker C
And finally I was reading enough to understand the. Even the title that it is talking about the full cycle. Yeah. But learning about our meridians and whatnot. And something that really struck me is, you know, looking through the knowledge base of different scientific studies with sound with, you know, some lithotripsy and you're asking about how our sound goes through the body. Yeah, but believe it or not, there was a study in 2007 and it was at the Niels Bohr Institute in Denmark. Okay, so this is great. Basically, you know, if you pick up a medical textbook right now, it says that nerves, it's electrical impulses. Right. So I printed part of the study out and we can talk about it later. It's too much on camera. But basically, in a nutshell, these theoretical physicists, they started questioning whether or not it was actually electrical impulses that were. That are nerves. And they basically said it's sound. And they were able to prove that our meridians and our electrical impulses is actually sound based rather than electrically.
Speaker B
Wow.
Speaker C
And so the way they were able to talk about that was that apparently there's heat that's generated in the electrical process, but in their studies, there's no change in heat. And so they were able to prove that it's sound.
Speaker B
That is crazy good. Yes, keep going.
Speaker C
And so it's pretty mind blowing, but it's really more about thermodynamics and the properties of sound rather than the properties of electricity.
Speaker B
Okay. So this, I mean, really going on this route, like with that, if it transmits sound and then it's affecting the meridian flow and the nerve impulse is that without getting sidetracked, Is that why when people would say something like, be careful of what you say about your own self or like how you speak over yourself or how somebody would say something because it's based off sound?
Speaker C
Well, yeah. So that's Kind of mind blowing and I can't wait to share some of more the details of that study, but it's pretty wild. And now speaking of sound, have you heard about the. There's a Japanese gentleman, he has since passed away, but he did some amazing work with water.
Speaker B
I know the professor and he. I knew it. But describe that for us. It was about like how he used water with sound.
Speaker C
Yes. So his name, his last name was Emoto. And basically what he did was he would take water molecules and then he had a very, very high power microscope and he would take photographs of these water molecules. And so this is in Japan and some of them. And the reason for that is he actually took some pictures of water molecules after that nuclear, after the earthquake and the nuclear disaster.
Speaker B
He showed Fukushima. Yeah.
Speaker C
Yes, Fukushima. He took some photographs of that and then he would take sounds and he would speak life into something like speak kindness. And then he would take a photograph of that water molecule and then say something, maybe negative into another piece of, you know, not piece of water, but you know, a sample of water. Yes, but the molecular structure is completely different. It's absolutely mind blowing some of the work that he did for this.
Speaker B
So it's like you have like a structured, if a picture of a water molecule compared to something that's kind of dysfunctional looking.
Speaker C
Yes, exactly. And, but you know, talking about speaking life into something and what. And the power of sound to do those sort of things.
Speaker B
Oh, you know, this is one thing about with health because here we want to talk about practical steps. That's why I love about the watch is because even personally I've been, you know, you told me to put it on for my mental wellness. You know, I did different settings and I had Lyme disease symptoms really heavily. And one of the great settings on here is about, they call it like germ setting and, and it talks about like respiratory wellness and it talks about different aspects of the body. And guys, when I say this, I'll put it on there and I like to turn it up to where I hear it sometimes, you know, I do because you can hear a little like sound. But I can, I can feel like a cool feeling in my body, like around the wrist because I think I've been doing acupuncture for so long that I kind of feel seeing things. I think a little more, a little hypersensitive in some ways. But one other aspect I wanted to ask you about was I could tell truly that my brain was more relaxed and the first time I wore it I was going on a trip and you told me to put it. Are we coming back from Austin?
Speaker C
Okay, yeah.
Speaker B
And I put it on and I was like, well, I'm gonna do what John told me to do, so I'm doing that. And I replaced, remember? And this is exactly what happened, guys. I'm sitting in the plane and I was getting there and I was like, oh. And I was just totally chilled out and I was just sort of like yawning. And I was like, man, what is like, my brain was like wanting to detox. Like, I could feel it. And I kept thinking, I was like, just to watch. So I started studying more about west frequency medicine. And not to take away from the conversation, but we talked about the bones. One of the things I love about this is that bones transmit a lot of signals, right? Is that true? And like, because you're talking about sound going through, can the bones a good conductor too, Is that right?
Speaker C
Yes. Well, and also, if you think of it, and I don't know the percentage, but our bodies are what, 70%? You know, we're water, right? So sound passes through water. You know, sound passes through that, that kind of mass very easily. But also the bones, you know, are very similar in that way that they can conduct as well. Yes.
Speaker B
Because one of the things that we study with Chinese medicine, they say that anytime you have to deal with the ears, the openings of the body are controlled by certain organs you're hearing. Anytime you talk about tinnitus or any type of rumbling in the ear, the first thing that we're taught to do is check the kidneys. And with getting very nerd about it. But they say when you first embryo, this is the beauty of the watch, is that when you first develop as an embryo, your kidney tube, the thing that makes your kidneys, is the first thing that develops before your heart does. And when we talk about sound and conduction, one of the things I thought about with it creating, going through the system is water conducting sound, because you can hear something through water further than you would hear it if it came through the air. But the. The cool thing about it is the kidney is one of the. That and the heart are the major life forces. So if you accentuate the hearing aspect of your body, which is the kidneys, they say in Chinese medicine, like, you're going to heal a lot of things. Like, so if I was seeing somebody and they had like a condition, and you think, well, how can I help this condition? Chinese medicine, if you find any kidney problems, UTIs, kidney stones, stuff like that and you start working with kidneys, you're going to take care of a lot of stuff, like 60, 70% of it. So what I'm saying is with this working off sound, then changing the frequencies and us being most of water, to me, everybody should have one of these because you're basically going to be able to. We're not saying cure, but you're going to see a lot of symptoms reduce, right?
Speaker C
Yes. Well. And a part of, you know, we had to go down a deep dive on how we talk about it in the right way, you know, and making sure.
Speaker B
Making sure. Yeah.
Speaker C
Can't use the words treat, heal, cure. Yeah. But what we can say very easily is that we can help the body to heal itself.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker C
And so whether that is using these frequencies to help just kind of reset the body's resonance. And I also know learning so much more about traditional Chinese medicine is really working specifically with each organ to make sure that it's functioning, hitting on all cylinders, et cetera. And so one of the things I am most excited about, and it's. It's hilarious because part of. With the watch, you know, I'm passionate about it and I love it, but I. But it always feels funny to say, like, well, it can do all these things and then some. And then some. But the truth is frequencies can, because there's all sorts of different frequencies. But I also don't want to seem like I'm on an 80s infomercial either. You know what I mean?
Speaker B
No, no, you don't. You don't get that vibe off. But do you, like, with the frequencies, like you say, there's so many different ones. So the thing I love about this is that you're able to, let's say, you know, work with kidney strengthening or liver strengthening. Right. So there's different ones. You can say, like there's so many. You can change to different ones.
Speaker C
Yes. So, you know, there's even a. And there's a whole folder of different things to choose from that are the different organs. And so that is. Each of those is about an hour long playlist of different frequencies to support that organ. Yes. And then, you know, there's two more of the things that I was. I know. I'm super excited.
Speaker B
Love it. Love it.
Speaker C
One of them is, you know, you'd spoken about Lyme disease. So I grew up in the Ozarks of Missouri.
Speaker B
Did you?
Speaker C
Lots of ticks.
Speaker B
Okay.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker B
All over.
Speaker C
Yes. And. And so. And one of the other things that Linda is very passionate about as well is lyme disease. And so when we had to kind of go back to the drawing board and make this very FDA compliant with, with our naming and everything else, we, we made one called Lyme Wave. And basically there's about 30 different frequencies because Lyme presents itself in so many ways. And as you, as, you know, as a practitioner. So people can come in showing one set of symptoms and then someone else comes in with a completely different set of symptoms, but they both end up pointing back to Lyme.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker C
And so we've got a lot of, of that and I know a lot of it kind of boils back down to Borrelia, if that's correct.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker C
And but a lot of detoxing too, as we, you know, these playlists are done in such a way that it might be frequencies that help a certain organ or fight against something else, but then they'll finish up that playlist with a detox.
Speaker B
Oh, and okay, so I'm not taking away from the conversation. I get excited about it. But one of the things that you talk about the detox and about finding with Lyme disease is anybody out there? If you guys have had Lyme or any type of infection, one of the things about the toxicity levels of Lyme or any infection that gets into your tissues in your joints is that the one thing is people say they can't get to the infection because it's so deep, but with sound. Hey friends. Dr. Motley here. And let's talk about healthy blood circulation, heart rate and blood pressure. Nitric oxide is an important substance that helps your body increase vascular flexibility, lower your blood pressure and improve your circulation. The Zona plus is a natural tool that uses the proven science of isometric exercise to keep your heart fit and boost nitric oxide production in your body. I suggest it to all my patients and I use it every day. Use it consistently and Zona plus will train your body to keep optimal heart health and circulation on its own. The Zona plus tailors every session to your body, creating a personalized cardio workout. It's a system designed to help your body work smarter, improving your heart health with every single use. Try Zona plus risk free for 90 days. Use code drmotley for $100 off the Zona plus device@Zona.com Zona is now HSAFSA eligible. If you're looking for an easy and simple way to increase your heart health dramatically, please try Zona Plus. I have seen it improve my patients health so much and I recommend it to every person that comes in. You're Going to feel, you're going to be able to get it through the tissue. And that's what makes frequency medicine so advantageous. And then you got frequencies actually help with the. When the infections poop, right? They do, they poop. And when they get scared, it's just like any one of us, if we got scared out of our mind, we poop our pants and we'd run. And so now like if we hid in the corner, nobody found us. You're thinking like we take an anti microbial and herbal or something to kill it off. But what if those things were hiding? And the thing I really care about, and I love about frequencies is that it's search and find because you're just transmitting through the body. So Lyme was a big thing. Infections. When you're talking about like things like we know we're not saying treat, cure anything, but anybody with autoimmune stuff or anything that came into your.
Speaker C
We've got quite a few of those.
Speaker B
I want to hear that chronic folder.
Speaker C
And so we've really done what we can to help with those because that's such a huge. So many people are dealing with that sort of thing and it's hard to find. It's hard to find help. And then, you know, also so many things point back to E.B. epstein Barr. And that's another one that's, that's kind of sneaky. And someone will say, oh, they're complaining of some sort of back pain or other symptom and they might accidentally. I mean, we've had. I had this one guy call, call on the service. I was manning the service lines one day and he called and he had had. He had accidentally played the Epstein Barr.
Speaker B
Accidentally, yeah.
Speaker C
But he had got relief from it. Because I think that's one of those other things, kind of like Lyme, that is. It's very present prevalent.
Speaker B
It's like 90, 95% of. They say culture has it.
Speaker C
Yes. But not a lot of people are even talking about it, knowing about it and then having something to treat it. So we do have one and it's hidden deep, but it's in there.
Speaker B
I love it though, when you say that if somebody had the Epstein Barr in the thyroid and they say by accident and they start to see those results. So if we say like with autoimmune, I just like to go down list everyone, because everybody listening, they say, well, I have this. One of the things that people would say, and maybe this is in a realm of cosmetics or how you look is people will talk about Rashes. Have you ever had any experience like people saying they have rashes and they're like, oh man, like this stuff's starting to like help the appearance of it, anything like that?
Speaker C
Yes. So we've, we've actually went pretty deep on, on skin. We've got four different frequency sets or, you know, basically it's a playlist, but it's frequency set is what we call it. We've got four different ones for skin, skin irritations, skin cleansing. It's kind of a rejuvenation one as well. And I personally had something, still don't know what it was and I couldn't find anything. Like I was using colloidal, colloidal silver and a few other different things and I couldn't, I just couldn't get this thing going. I was like, well, wait a minute, we made a skin thing for the watch and like three days later, boom, done. Yes, it was, it was insane.
Speaker B
It was really, really insane for me. When we talk about having sound therapy and I don't want to get into talking about like politics and I'm not going to, but it's so great that you could have a device, an instrument that could put something out that could help with skin and hair and teeth. And I want to tell you another story about this, is that it really does shake up the healthcare world when you can take something so cool. And let's say guys, that you had this really great device and let's say like you were really helping the body flush tons of toxins and maybe 50% of your symptoms were starting to flush out, but you're really rocking the world with this and maybe we can go down this path though. But what do you feel in your heart? Like, is this the realm, like where it's going and stuff and you're seeing like this movement. Do you ever feel that way?
Speaker C
You mean with frequencies in general? Oh, absolutely. And you know, I love looking at the future, but I think also as we look to the future and dream, we also look to the past because, you know, there's sound baths and there's all these other things. But then, you know, Einstein, there's some debate as to whether he actually said this or how he said it. But basically, you know, he's attributed as saying that the frequency future of medicine is in frequencies.
Speaker B
Oh yes.
Speaker C
And you know, he was in many of his contemporaries as well. And, and, and it really is amazing that we are very vibrational and frequency based beings. And so for, for me, one of the things that I'm most Excited about that we haven't even talked about yet. And it very much has to do with TCM is I went pretty deep on learning more about tcm, but for sleep. And so basically, one of the newest things that's helped me the most is we have some sleep frequencies that are actually, they actually follow the Chinese body clock protocol through the night. So it supports. You've got the triple burner and you've got. And it just follows liver and everything like that. And I have one thing to monitor my sleep, and I wear that because I want to be able to ascertain, you know, okay, this, this, you know, moved the dial for me and this didn't. But basically what I'll do is I'll go to the sleep folder and then, you know, if it's 10pm, I just click 10pm and let it play through and then just follows the TCM protocol through the night, as well as adding some vagus nerve stimulation. We've got some human growth hormone in there.
Speaker B
Really?
Speaker C
Yeah. Yeah. Because that's, that's when our, our body is rebuilding. And, you know, if you look, you know, if you. Let's say we only look at the U.S. you know, 350 million people, you know, the percentage of people that are not getting enough sleep, restorative sleep, it's huge. And so if we're able to help people to sleep and help people with, you know, and that's breathing, that's resting, that's all the things. So the device that I use to measure my sleep, you know, it measures well, so it's HRV. So before I started using our sleep protocol, my HRV was like in the 25 to 30 range.
Speaker B
Okay. Okay.
Speaker C
Yeah. So I'm three months in on using it pretty regularly. And I do measure it. I'm. I'm averaging 45, 50.
Speaker B
Whoa.
Speaker C
Yes. My HRV. And I've not really done anything else different in my life.
Speaker B
Wow, Good on you. That's. Guys, that's a big jump in hrv. And to me, like, with you doing that consistently, because consistency is the key. Healing up the organs I see in my head. Of course we love oura rings and, you know, they have different. That measure. But think about all the things that we do for sleep. Let's say like we take melatonin and we take gaba, we take theanine. We're making sure, of course, that there's no light. And those all are great. And I believe that. But it would really, in a good way, shake up the sleeping world that you could Help heal the organs throughout the night. And you're doing that now, right?
Speaker C
Yeah. So that's probably, you know, if you were to say what's the most special thing about this? And it's probably that one because it affects so many people, you know, no matter how old, how young, whatever symptom, you know, better sleep is going to help our bodies to heal. So we want to help the body heal itself. That's, that's, you know, that's, that's one of the first steps.
Speaker B
That is it. Because every alternative healthcare functional medicine practitioner says we always want to make sure that the body is healed. So the body starts doing the things itself. And one of the, the problems I think that we see about healing itself is the body's adaptation. So what I'm. We're talking about like at night when you're setting up your watch to help heal, let's say the triple warmer, which is like a lot of internal organs your energy produces, then it goes over to gallbladder and liver. And so if you do that steady pace. I think when our bodies adapt, our bodies are so good at adapting to a dysfunction. So let's say we have liver toxicity. Our bodies are working every day to actually help adapt to the toxins. And so the body starts taking energy away from other organs and pushing energy to other organs to help balance. But with sound therapy and using this, your body's able to break the like, I guess the adaptations which I would think would help with helping the body with its own memory, like remembering things. And so this is leading into like. Have you ever had cool stories? Because memory to me is a big thing. Memory, truly in Chinese medicine, it's remembering like you just said, past, present, your body has to have this memory log has hit help people with memory issues and stuff like that. Have you noticed that?
Speaker C
We have a few testimonies about that. I don't have a lot of solid memory's patchy, sometimes unreliable, but we actually haven't done a study on that. But that is something that we do have some frequency sets that are for that specifically. And I realized that I've. I hit about 42. I'm not going to say how old I am now, but when I hit about 42, I was occasionally mixing up words. My kids would give me a hard time or I would say the wrong word even though I knew what I wanted to say, but the wrong one came out. And so I've been playing some of our memory stuff as well and haven't done anything super crazy today at Least. But anyway, so I'm working on it myself. Just because sometimes little things in our minds just get a little bit turned around.
Speaker B
Yeah. We're finding like, okay, so you've found the beautiful pathway to help with sleep. You're noticing it could help with some symptoms of ADD or memory issues. But what are other ones that you've noticed that really come out well?
Speaker C
So some of our heavy hitters and I did speak about also some kidney stones. We actually have three ongoing studies right now that we're partnering with the company. And so actually at point of sale, people can actually opt in to join a study. One of them is for back pain. So that's one of the ones that we've got a lot of testimonials on. One is for sleep. Now, it's not one of those studies where you, like, go to some location, some like, weird location where you're in a. There's a bed and all these cameras and they're, you know, they're monitoring you like that. This is just a kind of a personal experience. You know, fill out an easy survey on a regular basis for about a month. You know, we've got one for, you know, like I said, sleep, back pain. And there's another one for anxiety.
Speaker B
This is big.
Speaker C
Yeah. On the emotional side of things. And so we are really excited to see where those studies take us. And because it's nice to, you know, we're a fairly new product, so we don't have all those studies to sort of back us up on or, you know, to talk about from a med, like a strictly medical standpoint. Right now it's more on the testimonial side.
Speaker B
Well, I think, I know that anxiety would be huge after that study because there are so many people that are crippled by anxiety. And one of the things, one of the many things that I've noticed that with patients, when you talk about, let's say you had Lyme disease or you started to detox, the detox, the poop that they produce, the toxins is it can fry your nerves basically. And that can put somebody over the edge to go into anxiety. And I think if you, when you have a device that could, after the studies with the detox and cleansing and you start to see a notice and reducing anxiety. And that's the one thing that was like for my mom. My mom has a bit of an anxious mind because we would do brain neurofeedback testing on her. And her brain waves are always pretty fast, which means she's accessing different areas of her brain because of overstimulation. And so during parts of the day she'd be pretty, can be wired in her head. But after using the watch, they're like, she is calmer and she's just talking and such. And to. Could this be where with this watch, could it be used not only on elderly but like, let's say kids have ADD or ad. Can you. Can it help them out as well?
Speaker C
Oh, absolutely. And that's one of the things I'm most excited about. And you know, I'm part of my. One of the hats that I wear. By the way, love your hat.
Speaker B
Thank you very much.
Speaker C
One of the hats that I wear is product development. So I'm always looking towards, you know, I don't want to move so quickly that, you know, our early adopters feel left behind or anything like that with things. But I'm always looking towards the future and, you know, children, that's certainly where my heart is now. Mine are teens now, so they, they are more sarcastic. But certainly where my heart is. And yes, absolutely. You know, from, from the ADD to emotions and anxiety, et cetera and. Wow. Yeah. And because there's, you know, speaking of add, I mean, I talked to people where I was. I was talking to this one guy and it broke my heart. He said, I don't really remember my childhood. I was on Ritalin the whole time and I was like, whoa, dude. Because, you know, look at you look at the number of prescriptions for that sort of thing and how that's. That's not what we need is more. And so, so figuring out ways to help people in a more holistic and help the body heal itself. That's what we're passionate about. And I am looking towards working with them children as well.
Speaker B
No, I am with you. I think that is the realm of huge realm. And I know, you know that I could see them wearing the watches like young ones to where it calms them down because it's tough when a parent, you know, when you hadn't had enough sleep, when you're getting woke up in the middle of the night or you get a call from the school and the school says, hey, such and such can't sit still. And whatever our views on schools and such, but that's going to be one of the biggest things is with kids, especially this day and age, because there's so much toxins, they have anxiety because, I mean, there's kids. Have you seen this? I've seen where patients have brought their children in and unfortunately some of these children have already been diagnosed with these conditions and literally four or five years old they're saying this, I'm like four or five years old. But this could be something they could utilize, help them out.
Speaker C
And we're also working with, there's a doctor in Israel and because of, you know, we were talking, this is even before the, the war with Iran started. But you know, you think about the anxiety of the imminence of a, of a rocket attack or something like that and how just millions of people in that region are, you know, living or trying to go to sleep at night wondering if, if there's going to be something else going on. And so thinking about on the, on a side of anxiety or ptsd because it doesn't have to be, you know, something like, you know, super wild, but, but that people can be triggered by PTSD as well. And so those are also things that we are working, working with on the watch and that are actually embedded already into the watch.
Speaker B
I would think for everybody out there listening that PTSD anxiety are probably some of the most prominent things that many of us are working with because I use a lot of homeopathy and with Chinese medicine and PTSD is like just remembering an old trauma or a present trauma and it makes your body respond. In a fight flight they call fees freeze or fawn. So with this, to me it's a huge round just for the watch. I mean if you could put, which you can, a really cool device on and help with ptsd.
Speaker C
I mean veterans, I was actually about to mention. So we, we, we've got a problem program. We've been giving away about 100 watches per year to, to veterans and, and we've been, you know, working with certain ones and really trying to do our best to understand the situation and realize that frequencies and sound frequencies specifically in that realm could be something that, you know, is a key to that healing process. And you know, and not to like take a huge turn, but I had a cousin that served in the military and lost the ultimate battle, which was, which was mental. And you know, and to understand that that's, you know, and when I guess I'm talking about in a different way, but, but he died by suicide.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker C
And you know, honestly the mental side of things and being able to come back from having served our country in such a brave way, but to help, trying to help people, others help others, to not have that happen to them, that's a huge passion for all of us.
Speaker B
That's why I can tell that when there's individuals that want that have a drive because you've had so many personal experiences. And people out there too is like, why does God allow somebody to go through certain experiences in their life? And you can feel the full effect. And I could see, like, I've had almost every member of my family except me pretty much that's been in the military. I was thinking about doing, going into the Air Force when I was younger. I was going to be Air Force. I wanted to be. I loved being a jet pilot. I was, you know, because they, they would say because I'm skinny and, and I'm six foot or six, two now. But it's like they'll say, okay, you'd fit well in a cockpit. And I had good vision. I still have pretty good vision. But people very close to me. Yes. Having those issues. And I can't tell you, like, my family's friends who've been in there, highly addicted to painkillers and no talking bad about them. It just hurts my heart that they have to go through that. But if they can help with. Helping with some of this anxiety and this ptsd. Because one thing though for certain is. Can we talk too about. There is good evidence, like there are studies now that you say like, sound and such like that. Your mom researched it. There's, there has to be, like some good studies about how sound really does help heal and stuff, but they just don't come out with it and talk about it a lot.
Speaker C
Yeah, I mean, there's quite a few different studies on sound, different kinds of sound. And then very recently there's something called lithotripsy. And basically what they're doing is just blasting. I think it was liver cancer, but it's a, it's a concentrated blasting of liver cancer that was actually just recently approved by the fda.
Speaker B
Really?
Speaker C
Yes. And. But the interesting part is that they're actually blasting all sorts of different frequencies. They're just like almost like white noise. But our frequencies are more designated, more directly to help our body instead of just blowing things out with every single frequency under the sun.
Speaker B
Yes, because. Well, like, even with technologies when they're talking about breaking something apart. So you're saying you could take sound and use that to break apart a kidney stone or break apart a liver stone or something.
Speaker C
Yes. And you know, that was, you know, I, I talked about a Dr. Royal, Raymond Rife, and he, he talked about the mortal oscillation rate. So basically it's kind of the idea of. Well, because. So I'll tell you about how he came up with that. And then on the practical basis. But basically his microscope, which was miles ahead of its time, he was able to look at things on a cellular level and then in real time. You know, this is. This is like 90 years ago. He wasn't. It wasn't on video. He was watching through a microscope. And then he blasted sound at a cell and. And it destroyed something that was attacking the cell. So he was able to literally see that in real time. Now if, if you throw that in Google, Google might say, oh, that mortal oscillation rate is not real. But. But that, that's exactly what his studies showed now. And then on a practical level, if. If there was an opera singer and that, you know, that crystal glass, that same idea, you know, as. As that sound comes and it shatters the glass. That's because it. It over that oscillation rate overcame the frequency of the glass.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker C
Of the crystal.
Speaker B
Basically shook it. It just shook it to the point where.
Speaker C
Right open and in a similar level. That's what Rife was seeing in his. In his big microscope.
Speaker B
Yeah, yeah, the oscillation rate, guys, where it was like, it's oscillation. And there's really cool devices called like oscilloscopes and they, they measure, you know, sounds that come off to different material. And I think. Is that why this is a very archaic way of saying it? Is that why, like the body, if you go into a room, if you're around somebody, go into a meeting and you get a bad feeling or a good feeling around somebody, something or something like you get around somebody and you go, I don't know what it is, but I just don't feel right about this person. Is that what's happening, happening?
Speaker C
I'm not certain, but I have those feelings as well. Not at this moment, but mind you. But better. Not scary, but. But no, it could very well be. It. It's really hard to say. And that's more. That kind of goes into some of that quasi spiritual sort of things too. But. But yeah, it's. It's kind of interesting.
Speaker B
So with, with oscillations and the people listening, saying, okay, this device can address certain things to help my body with how it responds. Ptsd, you know, help with like your body, how it is affected by infections. With this though, have you noticed that it's helped the people's emotions? I know we have good settings, but have you noticed it's helped people with emotions too?
Speaker C
You know, on a. On a personal level, I, I can't speak for anyone else, but we, we definitely have lots of different testimonials on that. But on a personal level, it's helped me on the calming side. Calming for sure. And. And then we also, on those emotional side, we have one that actually runs through all the different chakras one by one, and that's the harmonized frequency. And so it's kind of cool, especially if I talk to people that are into yoga, et cetera, that that is something that they really respond well to and have. Have enjoyed. The funniest part too is, is I'll. I'll be conversing with someone who's maybe a user or a customer already of the watch. And I'll mention that. And they're like, oh, that's why I love that one so much. Harmonized frequency so much.
Speaker B
Yeah. With. With one thing I was reading before four, talking about the energetic centers of the body. I was reading this. This story and I'm glad it came to my brain. It talked about where people talk about like the throat chakra or the heart. And this psychiatrist was saying that the nerves that are going, let's say behind the neck, that the thermal emissions and the electrical. But now we know it's sound conductivity.
Speaker C
Right.
Speaker B
The efficiency of it running through those nerves is what creates a big vortex around that comes out as a chakra. So it's just. Has everything as much to do with. They call it the nerve root ganglia in the spine protruding forward. And so since you're saying it's sound now, they were saying that how a person spoke would change the chakras, the way it turns. And I think that one cool thing is like you're talking about organs feeding off each other. I think it's really important with the device is that if you're working on, let's say the chakra of the throat or something, you know, you're going to affect the chakras of the brain or chakras of the heart. Which leads me to my next thought. Have you seen individuals, of course. With their emotions, personally speaking. But you're saying, okay, like with heart stuff like circulation or vascular. Have you seen anything like that?
Speaker C
Yes. So. And I have. I'll grab my. I'll show you my cell phone later. But we have. One of our customers went and got a. There's a. There's a way that you can microscopically. Microscopically look at your blood. Okay. On a. And it's, you know, it's a big microscope. And her blood showed Rouleaux. So that's when the blood cells stack up and Rouleaux is A French word for like a stack of coins.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker C
Okay. Yes. And so we have a blood cleansing. So it's. It's a. It's a blood frequency. They ran that for eight minutes and it was called blood blood cleansing. And. And then got another picture and those were low. Were completely. It's like somebody knocked over a stack.
Speaker B
It's called blood cleansing on there. Yes, guys. Okay, that's big because I get excited because. So they were unstacked after that.
Speaker C
Absolutely. It was eight minutes of running that frequency.
Speaker B
I am running that frequency because one of the things that we often forget is anytime guys, we're talking about autoimmune infections or toxins. One thing they tell us is that the rouleaux effect, the stacking, the stickiness, is a big problem with people that have different conditions because a toxins can get stuck in that stacked pile of red blood cell or the side, and the infections can hide in them. That's a very big point because that's why some individuals, if they came to you and said, hey, John, I, you know, I did really well for a while, but then, you know, great. And then all of a sudden I got some symptoms back. It's because they broke apart those. That ruleau. And something sort of came out.
Speaker C
Yes.
Speaker B
So I can go into that and clean it. This is huge.
Speaker C
Yeah. Now there's another study and I. I'll send you a link for it because it's. It's just wild, but it's using sound with blood. This is not a study that's been done on the wave watch, but it is a sound and blood study. Okay. So somebody, they. They took blood, different vials, and they put. Put it in a vessel and they put one of them in a Faraday cage, which basically is. Is something that is. Has no. No incoming signals. Wi Fi, 5G, you know, any of those things. And it. And then they had that at a maintained temperature. Okay. Then they took another sample and they would play different music to this blood.
Speaker B
That's how. Okay, got it.
Speaker C
Okay. And so what's. What's really wild? And I know, like, I don't mean to get too deep, but I know that you're a musician, and I've. I've played the guitar since I was. Was 10. I'm. I'm. I wouldn't call myself a musician, but I try. Yeah, no, no, definitely. Yeah. But, you know, thinking about music and thinking about what it does for our spirit, but what it does for this blood. And they played different music and what happened was, you know, how like, I mean, I think we're, I'm a little bit older than you, but you remember Jurassic park, you know, where, where there's that glass of water and then the dinosaur stomps. Yeah. See that way.
Speaker B
Yep.
Speaker C
But on a, on a non holiday Hollywood sort of thing, when there's different sounds, those manifest themselves in different ways. You know, you can see it like on a sand plate when there's different frequencies played on.
Speaker B
Oh, so it changes the patterns.
Speaker C
Yes. And so with this blood, the patterns, it started to show a pattern with the sound. And that pattern, the reason it showed it in the blood is it because it turned it more white. So it was actually the sound was oxygenating the blood. What different sounds oxygenated the blood in different ways. And they played some classical and some heavy metal and some, all sorts of different things. But the other crazy part is even after the sound was done playing the blood in that pattern, in that ripple pattern, which was different for different frequencies, but the whiteness or as the blood got lighter in those ways, it actually remained for quite some time after the sound was finished. And then meanwhile you have this other vial of blood that's in a Faraday cage and it's just hanging out, nothing happening to it whatsoever.
Speaker B
That is crazy cool.
Speaker C
And thinking about. And I listened to different people and hypoxia being the lack of.
Speaker B
Yes.
Speaker C
Lack of oxygen in the blood being ultimately what we might pass from this life from, you know, lack of oxygen in the blood. And, and so thinking about what sound has done for in this study and what it can do for us in the future is kind of mind blowing.
Speaker B
So it, it helped oxygenate the blood. What setting was that one?
Speaker C
So this is not gotcha. These are just various frequencies. Various frequencies and then also various types of music. And if I remember correctly, classical was one of the better, but it wasn't the best. I'll look back to say that because.
Speaker B
And you explained it beautifully, that everybody out there, when you talk about oxygenation, you are correct in that sense that what most people will have a problem with is anemia type symptoms.
Speaker C
Right.
Speaker B
They have low oxygen. Doesn't mean just anemia, it means brain fog, brain fatigue, muscle weakness, yawning all the time. Sometimes you can get a little cold hand, cold feet. So oxygenation is one of the biggest problems that I have as a practitioner. When we're working with people who have Lyme disease or an autoimmune type condition, working with their body, it is hard sometimes to get the oxygen to attach back into the system and that would make a lot of sense, though, because their body's gotten so used to operating in a deficient way, they're not oxygenated. So, I mean, yes, send me that because that is something that is intriguing that you can oxygenate.
Speaker C
It's an incredible study, and I love the way that it showed all still that one that was in the Faraday Cage and then the different patterns. So the different frequencies actually changed the patterns of the way that the blood was oxygenated. Okay.
Speaker B
Oh, we are. Okay. We have about a minute. Okay. We got to do some more soon. Another love that we got to do this. Okay. Before. Because we're about, you know, a few seconds. I'm sorry, guys, but we'll get this. Tell us where to find you and what we got to do it. Because we will continue to send other combos.
Speaker C
Yeah. So it's just wave W a V W a T c dash dot com. And then I think we even have a code. I know a guy. And then. So if you can enter the code D R M O T L E Y, then that's a. That's a great way to. To work with it. But yeah, it's WAVE. Wavewatch.com WAV W A T C H guys, because we're.
Speaker B
We're right. I didn't even pay. We're close. But look at wave Watch. Guys, I'm not kidding. I. You know me, I want to support and promote things that really do work. We're not trying to talk about, like just trying to get you to buy a watch, but it really has made a difference in my life, my mom's life, and we're really just appreciative. And we're going to have him back on. I. I love this. John, thank you so much for joining us. Okay.
Speaker C
I appreciate you. You've been so kind and can't wait to learn something some more and talk with you again.
Speaker B
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