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140: Cock Worship, Sexting, and Sexual Experiences We’d Pay For: Learning New Things About Each Other with Esther Perel’s Game
In this episode of Girls Gone Deep, hosts Vee and Elle dive into intimate conversations inspired by Esther Perel's card game, exploring themes of sexual fantasies, communication, and personal gro...
140: Cock Worship, Sexting, and Sexual Experiences We’d Pay For: Learning New Things About Each Other with Esther Perel’s Game
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Speaker A
I think my sexual superpower is my cock worship. Like, when I really tap into cock worship, you can fuck my throat like you can fuck a pussy. I really love being able to tap into, like, myself and my throat and the relaxation and that control over the gag reflex. I feel really sexy when I do it. Where should we begin? Literally, I love Esther Perel. So when you. I heard that you had this game, I was really excited. Athena gave it to me. I was gonna say, what made you get it? Where did you get this?
Speaker B
Okay, well, you know we love games.
Speaker A
I know, right? Tell me about it.
Speaker B
You know what? I've never played it before.
Speaker A
I was gonna ask you that. Yeah, Like, I'm a.
Speaker B
Well, today first baby.
Speaker A
Oh, you know I love to pop your cherries.
Speaker B
Welcome, everyone, to another episode of Girls Gone Deep.
Speaker A
I'm Vee. And I'm Elle.
Speaker B
And today we are playing Esther Perel's card game, Where Should We Begin? I've had this sitting on my coffee table for months. I've always wanted to play it. And there are different types of cards in it with different types of questions in it. So basically, it's like a storytelling game. Do you have the description up?
Speaker A
Yes. It says, stories are the bridges that connect us to other humans. This edition of Where Should We Begin? Is a game of stories that will take you deeper with friends, family, co workers, and lovers you thought you already knew. So it's 200 story cards. They spark deep conversation, connection, and play. And there's another version that's modified called Safe for Work or, like, the work version.
Speaker B
Well, fun fact, this is the not Safe for Work version. And I only. I know, like, in the deck, there's all kinds of cards, and there are ones with, like, a pink square on them that are all, like, sexuality and sensuality based. So I figured those were the applicable ones.
Speaker A
Okay. So did you read any of these cards yet?
Speaker B
I've read a couple. And when I say I've never played it, I've never actually played it. I have taken a couple of these on a date before, and it was fun to, like, prompt conversation. Similar to, like, when I bring horrible life cards or something.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
And a fun added aspect to it that I wanted to bring up with you is she talks about the art of listening. So the storyteller may share moments that fall between the cracks of normal conversation. Listen deliberately with more curiosity and less advice. Also set an intention. Esther Perel says, at my home, we often set an intention before we begin. For example, to surprise each other or to reveal secrets that we've never heard before. And then this. I really love speak from I. A story is more powerful when told in the first person. Keep it personal, not general. So say when I rather than, you know, when you.
Speaker A
Da, da, da, da. Yeah.
Speaker B
Which I love because we both experienced that with Ista.
Speaker A
Yes. Totally switching things to the I version. You know, it's interesting, too. When I speak from I is sometimes I feel selfish, like when I'm like, oh, I'm always talking about myself and my own experiences when I say I, but I'm very conscious of that. Like, when you are talking to other people and you years you use the.
Speaker B
Word you, you just did it. I talking.
Speaker A
Yeah, See, you know, like, it's. It's interesting. You catch yourself, and it's almost as if you're directly targeting that person. Like, but really you're not. You're speaking as in the you all category of. Of language. Right. But you're saying you. So people kind of feel attacked sometimes by that or unexpecting. So.
Speaker B
Or feeling a little bit like you're preaching to them as if. Yeah, so when you say it to me, I receive it as, you know, better than me. And you're telling me almost like, what to do or giving me advice that's unsolic rather than just saying, here's my experience. Here's my experience. Exactly.
Speaker A
Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's how I connect to other people, too. And honestly, ISTA taught me that, like, hearing other people's I stories and they. They reiterate that at the beginning of their event that you speak from the I. And it. It was just easier to connect with other people that way because my guard was down. I didn't get defensive, I didn't get triggered. I didn't get upset.
Speaker B
And when we are referring to ista, it is the International School of Temple Arts. It's a retreat that both Elle and I have done in the past. And it's tantric shamanic sexual healing. It's. It's amazing.
Speaker A
So, yeah, yeah, V and V just went. So check out that episode, which was probably last. There's just the past two episodes or so released.
Speaker B
All right. So I don't know if we're going to play it, like, the real way, quote unquote, like, also caveat disclaimer. We are not getting paid for this. This is just literally, we should be. I should be reaching out to Esther Perel's team. But this is like, to prompt conversation between us. And what is our intention? I'd love to learn something. New about you that I don't know.
Speaker A
Yeah, I would. I agree. I think a lot's changed for me in the past two years, and so I'm curious to see what these questions invoke in me and inspire in me, because it's different now. I'm definitely different. So I might learn something new about myself.
Speaker B
Oh, I love that.
Speaker A
Yeah. And I feel like you've been on such a journey this year between your course and going to ISTA and having new relationship experiences. And so I'm curious to hear what's kind of lighting up for you.
Speaker B
All right, so I'm a little nervous. I'm like, you want to go first? You are the storyteller, my dear.
Speaker A
Okay, okay. Okay. Let's go.
Speaker B
A text message I fantasize receiving.
Speaker A
Man, this feels really hard to answer for me. Do you know why I'm going to be, like, honest is like, I don't typically do sexting or dirty texts or pictures right now, so there's nothing of desire. Actually, something did just come to me. I recently had a. Like, a little fantasy come to my mind where I. My husband went on a business trip, and I asked him to take toys with him, like cock rings, ball stretchers, maybe even a cock cage. And so one of my latest text messages that I wanted to receive was him in the bathroom at his work event or work office, wherever he was in his travel, taking a picture of him in his cockage so that I could see that he was abiding by the rules that I had requested and making me happy. So I wanted him to be teased and anticipating, you know, later on or when he got home, that he could have his reward, you know, but not be able to touch himself until I say so.
Speaker B
Did he send you that text message?
Speaker A
Well, here's the thing. I never actually. This was a fantasy. And leading up to his work trip, something was like, I was, like, hesitating to initiate this, like, desire with him because I was at work, he was at work, he was leaving in the middle of the day. And I'm actually happy that I didn't, because when I spoke with him about his travels and what he was doing, his day was extremely packed. Like, I don't know that it would have been an appropriate time frame. He's at conferences all day, meetings all day. I know when I'm away on a business trip or I'm traveling, I don't. Like, you're just so exhausted, and I don't know how do you feel about that? But, like, you were just at Ista. It's exhausting communicating being on all day from 7 until 9. And so it was only a quick in and out one day event. And so if it were multiple events, maybe, but it actually worked out for the better.
Speaker B
Am I allowed to respond?
Speaker A
Yeah, if you want to respond, yeah.
Speaker B
Because we're not playing by the rules, right? Yeah. I really actually, like, at the end of the day, tuning into my sexual erotic self and sending photos to my partner. I have fucking so many photos that I take and I don't end up sending them all, you know?
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
And I. I love it because it also, I can imagine him like, you know, posing and, like, looking. I don't know if dudes do the same thing as like we do where we take like 100 photos of ourselves and only send one. But yeah, I feel myself when I fucking, like, pose and I'm like, oh, damn.
Speaker A
Yeah, like awakens, like a little prowess in you, you know. I definitely feel that when I'm taking sexy photos. Pushing your tits together, you know, bending over. Yeah.
Speaker B
So I do like that at the end of the day, I don't want to do it like throughout the day or anything like that. And yes, I am exhausted after a work trip, but I do like that little moment and then go to sleep.
Speaker A
What message would you want to receive? What do you want from a male partner?
Speaker B
Well, I think that depending on the partner, the fantasy is different. And what I want to receive from each of them is different. Some of it is more sexual and some of it is more like feeding my attachment and just like, need for intimacy. And so I'll say, you know, from one partner, I would love to receive a picture of him holding his throbbing cock in his hand, accompanied with a text of like, you know, daddy's hard for you or something like that. Daddy can't wait to like cream pie those holes or something like that. That's so fucking hot. Oh, I'm like wet thinking about it.
Speaker A
I love when you talk about it because you, like, wiggle in your seat every time. Touch yourself. I'm like, oh, my God. All right, your turn. Go draw a card.
Speaker B
Okay. A sexual experience I would pay for.
Speaker A
Ooh, Ooh.
Speaker B
I will say I have been to Amsterdam where sex work is legal, and I have walked through the red light district. And when I went there when I was younger, I was not sex positive in the way that I am now. Like, it was kind of like just this novelty experience. Like, oh, my God, this is so cool.
Speaker A
Wait, how old were you? And it was. Were you Married or not married?
Speaker B
When I first went, it was with a friend and I think I was like 21. And then I went again when I was married and we were monogamous and he would never. Oh, my God.
Speaker A
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B
But I would now. Absolutely.
Speaker A
You would pay for someone behind the doors?
Speaker B
Yes, I. Especially after having, like, Priestess Francesca on Adel Bardot. I believe in sex work and the healing experiences that you can get from sex workers. So I would love that experience. Just like going. Seeing who I'm interested in and. And having an experience with them. But then also, I don't know if this is like a sexual experience, but I do want to get a yoni massage.
Speaker A
Yes.
Speaker B
So I'm planning to pay for that sometime soon, like in the next year or so. And then also I will always pay for lap dances when it's in my budget. I fucking love. I love strippers. I love dancers. I believe in supporting their beautiful art and having that experience.
Speaker A
I love being in their essence. Like, I. Yeah. So I'm like, you just got me, like, so thinking so differently. So when I initially thought of my answer to this question, the first thing that came up was a dominatrix. Either a dom or a dominatrix. I really need to just submit and let go of control. I really have a hard time with that. And so I think paying for. For somebody who knows what they're doing, how to lead me, how to guide me, how to notice when I'm uncomfortable and help me work through that because they're so intuitive, would be so healing for me. I just don't know right now if I would want a male or a female. That's kind of where I'm not sure I'm leaning more towards female. But I also want to get, like, used like a toy and get. So maybe my m would be there so that he could me and she could direct that. That would be really hot. So that's what's coming up. Like, I want to get. I want to get used. I want to submit, but I think I want a female to lead it and I. And obviously if she wants to play, I'm happy because I love women, so. And I can't make it about me.
Speaker B
But I've had that experience and I loved it. So I highly recomm. I did pay for a dominatrix with my ex male dom. He sat and watched while she spanked me, flogged me, used. What else did she use? She used a bunch of, like, implements for impact play. She did a little bit of shibari on me. She strapped me from behind while I was, like, bent over looking in his eyes and thanking him. They gave me aftercare afterwards, and it was a great experience to articulate your desires because they ask you questions of, like, what you're looking for out of this experience. And I had never, at that point, thought about what I wanted. So she just gave me kind of like a little taster of everything. But that in itself is a really great exercise of, like, what do I want out of an hour session when I can ask for exactly what I want.
Speaker A
Yeah, it's actually like, thinking about. I'm like, I don't know what I want. You know, I think I just really want to be able to surrender. And so I'm happy that you just said she gave you a taste because you didn't know either. And so that makes me feel a little bit more comfortable because that's where my uneasiness sits. Like, I'm just, like, unsparked right now with specific desires. So.
Speaker B
Okay, hold on.
Speaker A
Thanks for sharing that.
Speaker B
Close your eyes.
Speaker A
Oh, God.
Speaker B
I'm gonna somatica you.
Speaker A
Oh, God. Okay, Live.
Speaker B
Okay, so you walk into a room, and there's a St. Andrew's Cross in the corner. There's candles lit. There's shibari rope. There's implements for impact. There's some Saran wrap. There's handcuffs. There are some dildos and butt plugs and vibrators. When I just mentioned those things, what kind of gave you a little bit of a flutter? What are you gravitated towards right now?
Speaker A
So first thing was the bondage stuff. Meaning, like, I mean, you didn't. You said saran Wrap, but I. I went to, like, bondage tape, you know, with that. St. Andrew's Cross is a form of bondage, but I think I'd rather be, like, strapped to a bed or lying down or on my belly. But definitely bondage and impact play would be desire.
Speaker B
How about some feathers, some silk scarves? Do you want a blindfold on you?
Speaker A
Yes. That would make me feel a lot more comfortable, at least to start, until I'm relaxed and warmed up and, like, in my body. So I think that's, like, the ultimate release of control. I can't see. I'm tied up. You know, there's. There's a lot of senses cut off and things that I can't do, which makes it easier to allow because I can't do anything. You know, I might even need a ball gag. So those are the.
Speaker B
How is your body being touched once you're tied Up.
Speaker A
Well, I definitely like a softer touch at the start. So slow, sensual. The feathers. I definitely like nipple play. I'd love to be teased. Like my. My pussy played with my clit touched and kind of like starting out ever so lightly. Little pressure warming me up before really penetrating or anything like that.
Speaker B
I'm getting horny thinking about that. Oh, my God.
Speaker A
It was fun. That was a really good exercise. That was nice. I, like, was nervous going into it. I was like, I hope something comes to my brain.
Speaker B
Thank you for going there with me.
Speaker A
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B
And I will tell you, I know a lot of dominatrixes in the city, so if you want some referrals, you just let me know.
Speaker A
I know you got the connection.
Speaker B
If you want referrals, reach out to us.
Speaker A
So definitely would hire dominatrix. There's some other things I would pay for. You know, I thought instantly of the yoni massage, but I don't think that's a sexual thing. I. Yeah, that one was a, like, not sexual, but I want that. And when you brought up strippers, I would always pay for a stripper. I would always pay for a lap dance. Like, I remember when Em and I first started dating, we would go to a strip club and I would be the only girl there, and his friends would be with us. We went a couple times, and they would be like, she's okay with coming. Like, she's okay with this. She wants to be here. And meanwhile, I'm like, front row. I'm like, throwing money on the stage.
Speaker B
That's me too. Yeah.
Speaker A
Calling all the girls like. And. And it's amazing because if you're a girl in a strip club, you do get, I wouldn't say special attention because they give everybody attention. It's their job. But every girl at some point, I feel like will approach you because you're not a common guest. I feel like at a strip club.
Speaker B
Yeah.
Speaker A
So, yeah, I'm always.
Speaker B
Yeah. I've always loved going to strip clubs. Oh, my God. So since I was young.
Speaker A
Yeah, it's just like goddess energy. It's fucking erotic and sexy and attractive.
Speaker B
It makes me feel hot. Yeah. Watching them.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
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Speaker A
Oh, man.
Speaker B
I imagine a lot of work.
Speaker A
Oh, my God, it sounds exhausting. I'm with you. Like, I just. I don't even know.
Speaker B
Yeah. So I have a friend who. She has two partners who are like her emotional partners, and it's a lot. And I was asking her if she wanted another partner and she said no. I'm at capacity with two, and I feel like that is what I would probably. That would be my capacity as well. When I imagine a life of polyamory, I imagine a lot of love, but then also a lot of emotional work. And I imagine probably needing to slow down. So not going to a lot of sex parties, not going out a lot, because you kind of are between these two people. Two people in my mind. Oh. And I'm not speaking from the eye. I'm imagining that I am between two people. And so I really need to conserve my energy in order to give them both my best self and then also give to myself so that I'm coming to both of these relationships from a full cup.
Speaker A
Now, can I ask you a question? So are they separate connections where you don't. The three of you don't mix together. You have your relationship with one partner separate from the other partner. Do they know each other? Do you guys hang out? Do you play together?
Speaker B
When I imagine this life, they are separate and they all, like, know each other and have met each other and are friendly metamors. But my relationships with them, my romantic relationships with them are all separate and, you know, part of my life with them. They're not interacting with each other.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
Unless maybe it's a special occasion and it's my birthday and I want to be like, DP'd or something like that by two of my loves. That sounds like a beautiful fantasy.
Speaker A
So I. I liked what you said in the beginning about, like, not going to different parties and, you know, experiencing others because you want to preserve your energy for the relationships and yourself. And then I also thought about how you would have to establish that base relationship with each of those partners so that you can navigate even bringing other people into the picture, you know, the agreements, I imagine, would be so different for each partner. Different boundaries. You know, when I think of a polyamory relationship, it's not something that I'm drawn to because of this time and work involved. We just don't have. I don't have that emotional capacity to have multiple partners. Right now, I don't think we ever will.
Speaker B
And when you say we, you mean.
Speaker A
You and me and Em. Yeah. Like, we both have discussed it, but right now it just, it feels like very. I like what we have now, which is, I guess it's like a polycule. Like we play with the same people. We will play with new partners, but we know it's a one off. We know that maybe we'll see these partners. Partners again and we'll play with them again. But it's just like a that night kind of a thing. There's not much communication in between. It's friendly in between rather than like sexual or dating and romantic. So for me, it's the intimidation of. Of time required to nurture each relationship. I don't think I have that time. I also challenge myself because when you deeply care for somebody emotionally, you figure out how to make it work. Right. Like you. Yeah, See, like, right, like if I were, like, think about it. Like, you figure, like, I have a daughter now, I'm gonna have a son soon and I'm pregnant. So like, I'm thinking, like, wow, how am I going to have time for each of my children? But I just know that when the time comes, it'll just flow and it's going to work out because I'm prioritizing it and I'm scheduling it and I'm making time for it. So I know that love and deep connection can change my feelings right now. But. And because I don't have that, I'm not challenged to figure it out and to make it work. But I always find that, like, when a polyamorous connection works, it should be. Or even any intimate relationship works. I feel like for me, it should just be natural. It should be more easy, it should flow. Your relationship is not going to be perfect. But I feel like there should be more ease in your relationship than resistance in the. And the communication and how you hang out and the things that you like to do together. It should feel easy, you know, I don't know. Do you feel the same way when it comes to relationships? Like, I find it a red flag when I meet somebody, even if it's just a friendship and there's a lot of resistance and, you know, we're not just connecting or bonding or it's not jumping off the right way. Like, I really take that into consideration that my body just knows. Right. That gut thing that we were talking about on your ISTA episode. Trusting the initial instinct. I do really believe in first impressions, and I think they can be changed, but I think first impressions are a lot for me.
Speaker B
And to that point, you might have a great first impression, but then for whatever reason, timing doesn't align. Or like, will and desire to hang out sometimes is just not enough. And, you know, let it flow right now.
Speaker A
Let it flow.
Speaker B
If it's not flowing, then it's not flowing.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
And like you said, like, that doesn't mean that you're not gonna sometimes have to work at it. That doesn't mean don't work at something. It's like, oh, this is. This is work. I. I'm. I'm. I'm out.
Speaker A
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker B
Too hard.
Speaker A
Not it. Gone.
Speaker B
No. But there has to be an element of flow and ease and slotting in to your existing life.
Speaker A
Yeah. So I think if I were connected with somebody in that way, I could figure it out. We would navigate it. And I think I. I'm speaking because I see we have a friend, a couple in our group that has recently had a throuple add into their relationship. And it was unexpected for all three of them, and they've never done it before. And it's working really well, and they're having a great time. And it's been a few months now that it's been pretty consistent, and it's super exciting to see the naturalness of it. And I'm like, okay, like, I get it. Like, if it works, it works. Like, it's not work. Then doesn't feel burdensome. It doesn't feel like a lot.
Speaker B
All right, next up.
Speaker A
Ooh.
Speaker B
The relationship that taught me the most.
Speaker A
About sex, I would say we had two friends that we met midway through our relationship journey. They were married at the time, but they are now divorced. He also went to Ista. They both went to Ista. And so when he returned, he kind of like started to implement a lot of that presence and grounded energy. He was also like a meditation healer. He had a meditation studio where he lived. He was very, very soul connected person. Very deep. And he challenged me in new ways sexually, like stepping into primal play and trying out bondage. And he dressed like a girl for me. Like him and I had like this interesting sub dom back and forth. He domed other women before and has even domed men. And so he challenged me a lot. In the beginning of my exploration of different kinks in BDSM and role play and dressing up. That was where I learned a lot about myself and my interests and my desires that I still have today. Like, things I never thought I'd get into were because of that relationship that lasted three or four years, but they're, you know, no longer together and I no longer speak to him. But it's always a relationship that I speak about with reverence and really appreciate it. It was so much fucking fun and I would do it all over again if I could.
Speaker B
Well, that's a cool thing about if he had that like tantric aspect and you just mentioned fun and exploration. It's like those are the things that I look for in my growth experiences with partners as well. And the relationship that taught me the most about sex was definitely with my first dom, God bless him. I was a baby in this space and I had big feelings and he was like a fucking therapist.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
You know, he taught me to be comfortable with my smells and juices. More comfortable than I was. But he started me on that road. He taught me about, you know, different toys. I used an anal hook with him for the first time, impact play with him. He was the first person to ever put nipple clamps on me. Shibari. Just so exploratory and so mindful. And I learned about trust and safety with him. I remember calling my safe word only twice ever with him and he stopped immediately and came straight out of the scene and came straight to me and gave me exactly the aftercare and cuddles that I needed and it was just beautiful. And he taught me a lot about anal and worship. And he was the one I first had visions with during anal. And wow.
Speaker A
Wow.
Speaker B
It's so cool to think about all the exploration that happens and the growth that happens in that sexual exploration.
Speaker A
Yeah. And you're right, it's like those first formative like initial experiences where you're open, you're curious, you're playful, it's fun, it's exciting, it's new. You, those are the most, the most life changing.
Speaker B
Well, and I can imagine that with this person that you were talking about too, you felt trust and safety.
Speaker A
Oh, 100%. Yeah, definitely a male that I connected with on a really deep level like I do with Em, my husband. So it felt super safe, super comfortable. And the fact that he was experienced made it a lot easier for me to be feel safe in those new experiences and to be curious. And he had like a little kid in them just like me. Like I have a little kid in me. If you can get her out, you know, to play and get silly. And he was like my little buddy. Yeah, this is a great like game.
Speaker B
It's introspective. Yeah. Should we do one More?
Speaker A
Yeah, we'll do one more.
Speaker B
Ooh, this is interesting. A sexual encounter that I wish had not been cut short. Oh, we're gonna do another one, too, after this because I just found a really good card.
Speaker A
When I think about nights or, like, specific sexual, like, events, nothing really comes to mind. And I think it's because I typically leave those situations with good communication and satisfaction. And, like, everything's where we all want it to be. And I think, like, ending things too soon. Say you're all having an amazing time and you wanted to keep going. I still think ending it is a highlight to end on, that it leaves for anticipation. Right. If I had to think about a relationship or, like, a connection that I had that ended too short, then I would say it would be the relationship I just mentioned with that couple, the male half of that couple. I would have. I. I was curious to see where else that could have gone in terms of, like, trying new sex kinks and stuff like that. What about you? Are there any experiences that you wish.
Speaker B
Didn'T get cut short as far as, like, fun, sexy trysts? I would say the things that get cut short are the things that are, like, travel related, right? So, like, you meet someone and you're. You're on a stop between places, and you both are on your way, and, you know you might never see them again. So. One person.
Speaker A
Are you thinking about your bus ride? Yeah. Yes. Yes.
Speaker B
That's exactly what I'm thinking about. So. All right, guys, buckle in for a sexy story. Last year, I went to Thailand, and I was in the back of a bus with this dude, and we just made out for eight hours straight. And I just remember the energy coursing through my body, and we couldn't keep our hands off of each other, and it was so fucking sexy. So then when we got to Bangkok, I was going to sleep in the airport, but he had. He got a hotel room, and so I went with him. And I think we had, like two or three hours before I had to go to the airport. And we were exhausted from eight hours of foreplay, but, God, it was so fucking hot. I remember him, you know, just, like, kind of devouring me and us devouring each other and, like, fucking our brains out. And he, like, licked my ass, and I was like, oh, my God. It was just so.
Speaker A
The anticipation, it makes you think of those movies where, like, you walk into, like, a room and you can't even. Like, you're stripping your clothes off. You're. Yeah. Like, it's. It's like you can't even stop kissing. You're connected and every part is possible, you know?
Speaker B
And I think with that one too, the whole aspect of, like, wishing it hadn't gotten cut short, I think we had more to give each other, but we were so exhausted by the end of that. Like, this was like, like 5am by the time, you know, we were done. And I remember us, like, both trying to fall asleep, but then, like, couldn't keep our hands off of each other. So it was like a little bit dreamlike and like. Oh, you know, almost like you're on, like.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
But we were so fucking delirious because we had been traveling for like 13 hours. We took, like, you know, a ferry and then a bus and then go to the hotel, and it's just like, crazy. So.
Speaker A
And at no point, nobody saw you in public on any of these?
Speaker B
Not that I'm aware of. Oh, my God, who knows? But he had a great dick and I would have loved to explore that dick a little bit more. Mr. Bangkok, wherever you are, you still live.
Speaker A
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Speaker B
Okay, so last one I want to do is my sexual superpower is. You go, you go. You look inspired.
Speaker A
Okay. Jesus. There's a couple things coming.
Speaker B
You're like, I used to have superpowers galore.
Speaker A
I think my sexual superpower, I have two. One is my worship. Like, when I really tap into worship, you can fuck my throat like you can fuck a pussy. You can get so deep. And my ability, like, m always tells me how he just. He's like, I just want to watch you do this to another guy, you know, and take him so deep. And I love, like, surprising guys who are big and they're like, whoa, no one's ever gotten me that deep before. So I really, I really love being able to tap into, like, myself and my throat and the relaxation and that Control over the gag reflex and relaxing and breathing so that I can do it. And I feel really sexy when I do it. Like, I definitely am conscious of how I sound and like, if I do like choke on it a little bit, like what that sounds like, I hear myself and I get turned on hearing myself, you know. So I really think that my definitely my cock worship and deep throating large guys is my super scale. My other one, I think is when I'm in a connection with somebody new or maybe somebody that I haven't played with very often. I'm very in tune with, I guess my empathetic feelings. Are they comfortable, Are they not comfortable? And maybe it's a projection of my own stuff sometimes too. Like, I'm not sure. But I'm always really good about checking in during like the play. Even if it's just like, hey, we, everything's good. Like I can keep going, you know, just a casual little passing or I'm noticing you're sitting on the sidelines. Would you like to try something different? You know, just to keep things flowing and moving? And I feel like that helps with the comfort level for myself and for the new people that we're still developing our connection and relationship with. So those are my two super skills.
Speaker B
I would agree with both of those. Okay, gonna add one for you is, yeah, you're just ability to lock in and tune everything else out. Yeah, you have laser vision. It's going with superpowers. I believe that as far as sex acts go, my head giving skills, I love to devour a cocktail. And I have been told that my sloppy blow jobs and the cadence with which I switch from hand twisting to bobbing up and down to deep throating to hand twisting to the cadence is good. I have been given that feedback a lot.
Speaker A
Yes. My partner Em has definitely said the same things.
Speaker B
So I'll say that I almost wish.
Speaker A
I had a dick so you could suck mine. I wouldn't say.
Speaker B
The other thing that came to mind is my ability to connect with women in the space. And I think that how that translates sexually is my ability to make women feel loved, cared for, and included in group sex. And so I think I'm a really good unicorn for a couple, particularly when perhaps the female is a little bit more timid, maybe nervous about the experience. I can put them at ease.
Speaker A
I. I would agree with that. I think that you have a. A way to connect with people. And I would even say this with men too. Like, definitely with women that you can make them feel really comfortable. You're so easy to talk to. And, like, that's step number one is being able to have a conversation with somebody. Like, if you can't do that, who knows what your sex is gonna be like, you know? So I love your. Your social skills. So I second that one. Oh, I love this. This was a good game. It was definitely like. I'm trying to think of the difference between this game and then Horrible Life and, like, how these initiate. They're very different, obviously.
Speaker B
Well, I don't know. I think they're pretty much the same, except for this is like, maybe a little bit more pg.
Speaker A
Yes. Way more pg.
Speaker B
Yeah. It's not like, I don't know, Deep throated cop.
Speaker A
Yeah. Our car. The Horrible Life cards are very vulgar. Yeah. But I like how it is. I like how those cards, we could be like, you know, like the fuck, marry, kill kind of scenario. We say, would you rather a fantasy guess if someone. Or not at all? Yeah. Like, I like how specific it is because then it really targets different kinks and desires and helps people think, like, a little bit more deeper about specifics of sexuality where this is a little bit more general, you know, this is about, like, your past.
Speaker B
Wait, what was our intention? To learn something new about each other. Have we learned something new about each other? We have fucking.
Speaker A
Well, the one thing that you mentioned that I learned was that you're monogamish. Because you went from being on this journey of, like, partner in the lifestyle to then, like, navigating, I guess, like what you would call solo poly. And now you're saying you're monogamish, and now you're saying you want to be celibate, which I'm like, what the fuck? I know we glazed.
Speaker B
I'm figuring it out. Okay, Elle, I'm figuring it out. Actually, I was having this conversation with someone last night. Like, I love about this lifestyle that you can ebb and flow in how you inhabit it.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
And how it works into how you feel. We change as humans and, you know, our relationships, why shouldn't they reflect that, you know, and how we relate to others romantically. Absolutely. Yeah. I think that just because you choose in the same way that we say that, like, you know, monogamy is great if you're consciously choosing it. If you're like, okay, I've, like, looked at the different ideas and this is what's right for me. Like, just don't default into it. Now that I have chosen non monogamy as my path, I don't want to default into it. The opposite Way. Right. Like, I want to still be consciously choosing how I am romantically relating to people.
Speaker A
Yeah, 100% said it. Said it. Amazingly, nothing to add to that because you nailed it.
Speaker B
So I'm figuring it out. We are in a period of transition. I'm really enjoying this one connection that I have. And so I'm feeling like really focusing on him right now because I really loved at ISTA not focusing on romance and sex. Sex. Like I could just focus on myself. And so if it weren't for this one connection that I have right now, I would be choosing to be celibate, but just saying I do have that connection. And so I am monogamish. Like I'm open to sex with others right now with him, but I don't wanna, I don't wanna dilute my eroticism.
Speaker A
I see what you're saying now. Can I ask you a question about the celibate right now, how you're feeling right now? Because this is probably gonna maybe evolve.
Speaker B
Yeah, it's definitely going to evolve. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I'm celibate. And then the next time I see you, it's like I5 people at this party.
Speaker A
Do you see yourself when you say that you're. You thought about celibacy? What came to mind? Like, celibacy with not having sex with other partners and then also not playing with yourself. Celibate with yourself as well.
Speaker B
Great question. I would still be open to orgasming solo.
Speaker A
Okay.
Speaker B
Yeah. The point is getting away from that emphasis on validation from the outside. And I've got enough going on in my life that like, I want to focus on me and all that energy that I put out there to find the person and like, and then when I'm diluting it between people, it's. It's so much energy and calendar planning and, you know, sex with this person and then get it up for this person and all that. And dates and getting ready for dates. Ah, I'm exhausted just thinking about it. So it's like I need to use that energy towards this new business venture that I'm endeavoring on and figuring out my next steps of my life and just getting my shit together. Like, love myself. Like I would love, love somebody else.
Speaker A
Yeah, it makes sense that you would. You have so much energy to give in a day and to be spreading it amongst so many people when if you go celibate, you could absolutely self focus and really reflect and you love journaling, so you have a lot of prompts. I'm sure you could ask yourself about like, okay, this is how I lived my life. I've lived it this way. What did I learn from that and where do I want to go next? What do I still want to incorporate? So I love that for you and even being monogamish kind of still allows you to have that energy to do this work. So I'm excited to see where Vee will be by the end of this year.
Speaker B
Oh, my God. This has been a year, girl. A year of transformation.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
I love you.
Speaker A
Yeah. Well, guys, let us know what you think. Listeners, play along with your partner. Message us on Instagram girlsgone Deep pod.
Speaker B
We will be posting the pictures of the cards on the stories and if you liked them, let us know. We can certainly post some more if you want to.
Speaker A
Yeah.
Speaker B
Join the conversation, babes.
Speaker A
Yeah, we'll catch you on the next episode. Bye, Sam.